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*The editor of ReddingNewsReview.com reports of unnamed sources who say President Obama tried to intervene to stop the Troy Davis execution in Georgia.
Robert “Rob” Redding Jr. posted the following story on Monday:
President Obama candidly Friday took a little time to explain how he tried to save Troy Davis and why he did not say anything about his controversial execution, two sources told Redding News Review.
Obama’s White House spent “three days” looking at how it could legally get involved in the case on a federal level, one source said. The Obama administration even called the state of Georgia about getting involved and were told “No”.
“‘We looked at every possible avenue legally,’” the source reported Obama said. “‘There was not one there.’”
“‘It was a state case and I could not intervene because it wasn’t federal,’” another source reported Obama said.
The two sources told Redding News Review that Obama talked about Davis, during a private lunch meeting of about 10 select black broadcasters.
Obama said the only reason why he spoke about Harvard’s Henry Louis Gates’ case, was because he was asked by a reporter, Obama told one source.
What’s more, Obama also said that the only reason why his administration spoke out about an illegal immigrant’s case, Humberto Leal Garcia Jr., in July was because it was an international issue, where his rights were violated.
Sure, the president could have simply spoken out about Davis, the source said, but it would not have done anything.
“‘I don’t want to make this man’s death political for me,’” Obama told the source.
I don’t see the difference in this case and the one with the Hispanic, but whatever. If this is true, great. Now do the necessary next step and have your DOJ look into tightening these execution laws. Change things WHERE YOU CAN.
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“If this is true, great”….what and idiot of a bytch u are. u and your dumb butt wipe friend, mustbwhiteytoberightey came in this forum every day and blasted MY President about not stepping up or at least looking into this execution and then when u read this information, true or not, the best u can come up with is “If this is true, great”…..what a dumb-right-wing-zealot-plantation-luving-giving-your-nappy-dugout-to -the-slave-master heffer u are.
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lol Make no mistake about it, I am STILL blasting him for not using his public forum to speak on this PUBLICLY. They call it the “bully pulpit” for a reason. What you do behind closed doors remains there, unless you do something to let the public know otherwise. A public official of his caliber has the clout to make major changes if politics was not in the way. But for someone like this president, politics is always in the way. So in that vein, I understand his reluctance to dive into the fray of something controversial–he has neither the stomach or the spine for things like this, things that can only be addressed with courage and conviction.
That said, the larger part of my statement was that given his limitations, it is somewhat comforting to know this issue was at least on his radar and that he at least expressed a desire to do something. Whether that supposed desire translates into policy remains to be seen…but given his record thus far, this matter for him is closed. And that should give you pause Huey…his silence on virtually everything that matters should give you pause Huey…but given your record on this site, you won’t miss a beat. Keep beating that drum Huey!
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TGen, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. After I saw that story where the same group of people let off that yt murderer, it got me thinking that them crackas would like for an opportunity to stick it to Obama. Maybe Obama also sensed that, and thought that if he even said anything, they would go ahead with the execution to show who is in charge. Maybe he thought the safest thing would be not to get involved unless he could actually stop it.
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Yes, I am actually sympathetic to his situation here, so in a small sense I give him a pass…but only a small one. The bigger part of me agrees with Musb. Some things simply can’t be political. Some things require personal sacrafice for the larger good. This is one of those instances. A man’s life was taken by the state, and that man might have been innocent. How do you stand by and watch that happen when you more than most others might have a chance to stop it? Your talking to your friends around the dinner table does ish for Troy Davis or the over-reliance on the death penalty as a whole. And “speaking out” does not necessarily have to mean giving a speech. Since this president is unable to gracefully deal with race-related issues in a direct way, there are ways he can implement change. Like I said, having your DOJ release a press statement declaring investigation into tigthening the use of capitol punishment so that it is only used in cases in which DNA evidence is available, would not hurt Obama politically really, and it would give his more progressive supporters some comfort that he really isn’t as out of touch as it seems most of the time.
I know you are needing to find a reason to stay on board with Obama, Reds, and if this is what you need to believe, that he really means well deep down, that is understandable.
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Reds, reread what you said and ask yourself what’s different about that approach.
Read, in an effort to not anger “middle america” Obama needs to stay as race-neutral as possible.
What’s actually different here?
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Nah, he got to show me more for me to stay on board.
But we know them crackas live for an opportunity to show Obama up, and even though this was a matter of life and death, I wouldn’t put it pass them to use it.
Yeah, I’m inclined to believe that he means well, but he is just too much of a punk.
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After a couple of pleads for clemency along with 3 execution dates thaat were delayed it seems like the federal courts and the Supreme courts just kept tossing the case back and forth to each other ( like hot potato) nobody really wanted to investigate further to see if he was really innocent or not they just gave up and could care less. Sad!! but hopefully his name is cleared and the execution laws are changed for the better.
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IMO, attempting to “save” someone is what Congress did for Terry Schiavo. In that case, they intervened publicly and Obama supported that.
Here, we hear from “unamed” sources that Obama told a group of black journalists that his administration looked into it to see if the president had any authority to intervene.
Has any president ever intervened in a state’s death penalty case? I would like to know what they expected Georgia to say, “well sure Mr. President, even though our legal options are met here, we will reconsider because you personally object to it”?
Can you really “save” a drowning victim without getting in the water?
And I assume by saying that he didn’t willingly intervene in the Gates affair or the Hispanic thing was in rebut the claims by those who said/woulda said that he had no problem intervening in other affairs..so why not this one.
Either way, I don’t put much stock in this story..nor give him kudos…and believe “if” there was an interest there beyond politics, I’m sure the point is to ensure that black card never goes broke. He coulda answered this potential “question” in advance by releasing a statement different than, “it’s not appropriate for us to intervene in a state issue.”
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Damned if you do damned uf you don”t Wow!!!!!
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You know, I have tried to say that you have to find things out for your self. There is something to be said about folks who speak of things they don’t know of, corrupt themselves with what they do know or have a lot to say without really saying anything.
Clarification for those who don’t know:
The death penalty is used at the discretion of the States. Want it abolished? Work/elect state officials that are against the death penalty. DOJ isn’t the answer.
It was Senator Obama who, as a member of Congress, voted yes to allow Congress to put itself into the fight to intervene on behalf of Schiavo’s parents.
Second, Congress can make try some intervening measures, such as members of the CBC, but the President of the United States can not intervene or pardon anyone convicted of a NON-federal crime. If Congress takes an action and passes a bill, the President can sign it….. as President George Bush did in the Shiavo case. It has been like this for years and years.
(and if you really think about what I just said, you may begin to understand how Congress, the Supreme Court and the President are intertwined……and who has limited authority. Checks and Balances are the words of the year and it is the reason why WE f’d up by not showing up to the polls during mid year elections.
Ergo, when and if President Obama stated that he had people look to see if there was anything intervention he could do, that is why he said it.
The Hispanic incident two months or so ago (which was mentioned before) was an international situation where the actions of the TEXAS government (Rick Perry anyone?) violated an international agreement involving Mexico. Ergo, it was a federal matter of which the U.S. President could and should talk bout, but could not stop, because it was at the STATE level.
The Bates ‘thing’ happened when either the same day Gates was arrested or a day after, President Obama was giving a press conference about Healthcare and a reporter asked him about Gates. If the reporter did not ask about Gates, who knows if President Obama would have said anything? Shoelover says probably not, but Shoelover also says that if Gates was a YT professor, the reporter would not have asked the question at all.
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Well said Shoelover, but you know you’ve wasted your time and typing on this! There are always going to be pro’s and con’s to everything in life, some choose to ALWAYS harp on whatever con that they can find and make it the defining conclusion no matter the Pro’s, no matter if the pro’s are signficant or even outweigh, if there is any room for complaining and criticizing, they will move in, decorate and call it home. That is why I scaled back my indignant responses, it just isn’t time worthy. But I do appreciate.
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