*It is no secret that a lot of African Americans voted for President Obama simply because he was African American.
For some, that was all the credentials he needed to win them over.
Well, the Fly Jock is revving up the campaign trail with that element as a key factor in voting for the President.
No wonder he and Tavis aren’t seeing eye to eye (more…)
“Let’s not even deal with facts right now. Let’s deal with our blackness.”
So professor Joyner, with that argument, why not Herman Cain? Is he not also black?
“We have a chance to reelect the first African American president”
Using your simple minded logic, Cain supporters could very well make the argument that, “we have a chance to elect the second African American president.”
“We should do it because he’s a black man.”
He can’t be that stupid, so I guess we have to assume that Joyner is totally unaware that the front runner for the other party is also a black man.
Why is it always a big deal when blacks bring up race? When whites so blatantly display it nothing is said or done about it? The Republicans and the Tea Party have already displayed and said that there only goal and purpose is to see to it that President Obama is a one term president. WHY? Because he is black! They are not giving him anything and are willing to destroy America to get him out of office. This blatant racist attitude is harming all human beings not just the black race. Why don’t people wake up and see this.
The Republicans, GOP and Tea Baggers will see everyone without anything rather than give President Obama anything even if it will help get this country out of the economic disaster that G.W. Bush and his predecessor were very instrumental in creating! All of this just because Obama is black!
So many citizens wil not vote for Obama just because he is black no matter how much sense his policies make. So what is wrong with voting for Obama just because he is black? For once this would give the black race a chance to show unification which is something blacks lack more than any other race or culture. Why do you think King was assassinated? He was killed because he united Blacks which no one else was able to do or has done!
As long as the White race can keep blacks divided they will always win! The white race does not want Obama to unite blacks or win! Whites will vote for whites just because they are white and it doesn’t matter rather they are qualified or not; nor does it matter if Obama is better qualified.
Maybe because no one ever actually says that they are voting (or not) for someone based on their race or gender. That’s the issue but I would expect nothing less from Tom Joyner’s ol ignorant pasty ass!
He’s the idiot of all idiots.
I wish EUR has decided to put a lil more “mmph” in this post detailing more of what his stupid ass said on the splash page. I read about it almost two weeks ago in a WPost column.
“Let’s not even deal with facts right now. Let’s deal with our blackness and pride — and loyalty. We have a chance to reelect the first African American president … And I’m not afraid or ashamed to say that as black people, we should do it because he’s a black man.”
I’m sorry but for any of you idiots who follow Joyner, that bud’s for you! He’s telling you that race should be the “only” deciding factor in your vote. Fk that fact that people died so that you can vote for whomever you choose. That’s shyt’s dead. Just elect anybody black.
dummfknwillbevenuglierwithageass!
Ashlynn2004, you got me mixed up with someone else. I’m the last person to be ignoring race in this country. Shit, the only reason why I’m rooting for the Rangers to win the World Series tonight is because they got a black manger. Apart from being a Democrat, voting for Obama in the last election was also significant to me because of his color. So it’s not about voting for the black man just because he’s black why I was making fun of Joyner. But despite the fact that Obama is still black, there are a lot of other developments since. First and foremost, Joyner’s argument fell on its face by the mere fact that based on polls so far, his opponent would also be black.
Joyner said “Let’s not even deal with facts right now. Let’s deal with our blackness and pride — and loyalty.” Joyner wants to talk about blackness and loyalty, but seems to be forgetting what we have learned of the real Obama since he got elected. There are questions about his loyalty to the black community. Every chance where there was an opportunity for him to make an impact, he bailed. His apologists would make the same tired excuse that he is president for America and not for blacks, but they seem to either forget that blacks are also part of America, or that part of the president’s job should be to redress inequalities in the society. When black lawmakers would suggested that he has some targeted assistance for blacks who are disproportionately affected by the economy, he claims that would be illegal (When did we outlaw affirmative action?) If blacks are being denied employment because of t race, how can a “rising tide lifts all boat” philosophy redress that situation? The only way to fix that is to have programs which take race into consideration.
He also seems to have a proclivity for distancing himself from black people and our struggles. After the Sean Bell ruling was handed down, without being asked, he had to proclaim how “The judge has made his ruling, and we’re a nation of laws, so we respect the verdict that came down.” As if to say to white people, “don’t associate me with them and their angst with the justice system.”
My point is that this man is not a friend of black people, and despite us voting for him once because he was black, there has to be some accountability. The question is not even what have you done for me lately. It’s what have you ever done for me. So should we vote for Herman Cain if he gets the nomination?
Personally, I’m not inclined to vote Republican regardless of who they have running for them, but I’m looking for ever excuse not to vote for Obama again.
As Glenn Ford said, he is not a friend of the people. He is pro Wall street, pro pentagon and doesn’t have a transformative bone in his body regarding either class or race.
“He can’t be that stupid”
Um, where have you been Reds? He absolutely CAN be that stupid…that quote from is just one in a long line of stupid statements. That’s why I’m glad Tavis didn’t fire back when the stoop blamed him for someone calling Obama a name. Tavis realized apparently that going after Joyner would have been aiming [waaay] down. Not worth it.
I am voting for President Obama again becuase I believe in him.Now the fact that people died so we as a people could even have a voice always weighs heavy on my heart when I do vote.Now he has admitted that he may not have alwyas made the right decisions and I can live with that.I am not sure if I know any PERFECT people.If anyone does please let me know who they are.Why do we always concentrate on what he has not done?Has anyone bothered to check on what he has done for not only Blacks but for this country period! The fact that he is Black as far as I am concerned that is a bonus for me. this is a smat and intelligent man and I think he is doing a great job and I will support him all the way as is my right to do so.As far as all these other idiots in the race for President go ahead and vote for them and I will say it once again LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR DECISION because i am am going to live with my decision to suppot this man and what he has done and what he is going to do. why don’t you place the blame where it really lies with Congress who has made it their duty to try and make sure that he is a one term President but that’s OK he has done more in one term than GWB did in 8 So why don’t you place the blame where it belongs.What is Congress doing to help him or even make any suggestions about what to do What does (Congress) have planned for Black people????? What’s the plan? EXACTLY. Have we heard one yet? I don’t think so. So I will continue to support Obama and I do pray that he get another term @Ashlynn2004 i agree with you 100%
Spoken like a true obamabot.
I see you idiots have taken the worst pages out of the tea party playbook – blame everybody else.
Forget the fact that we have a president. It’s everybody else’s fault but his.
Like the initial unemployment projections. Well it ain’t Obama’s fault that the numbers were higher than what he was projected.
It ain’t Obama’s fault that he hired Larry Summers and kept Hank Paulson – two men of Wall Street who ignored concerns from people like Elizabeth Warren. Let’s blame the republicans for hiring him.
It ain’t Obama’s fault that his stimulus wasn’t big enough to deal w/the crisis. Let’s blame the congress for not “allowing’ him to make it bigger.
It ain’t Obama’s fault that we have in many ways continued and others increased our military involvement. Let’s blame the republicans.
It aint’ Obama’s fault that he courts favor more with those against him than with him. That’s somebody else’s fault too
Why is it that Obama is always called black when he is half white and half black?
@rainy21 President Obama refers to himself as black so is he wrong? Now you’re gonna tell him what to refer to himself as? If he wants to be called african american which he definitely is because his father was african & his mother american, then that’s his choice. If he wanted to be called bi-racial that’s his choice to.
You sound as if you may have a hitch in your underwear with your comment. No, I’m not saying Obama is wrong. He can call himself what he wants BUT he still is half white and half black. He has said that also.so what I was getting at is why make this racial. Now take a chill pill and don’t make every comment here a fight for you to engross in!
As I said, I don’t necessarily have a problem with someone voting based on race. Well, at least up until a certain point. When it comes to Obama, my question is, why still him. Why is that the only criterion applied to Obama even after we found out who he really is? The argument could actually be made that the black race would be better off without his re-election, since in some ways, his presence in the white house will only continue to undermine the struggles and gains which blacks have achieved.
For one, his argument that despite the continued discrimination which ensures that our economic and social status will lag behind other races, government does not have a role in addressing this injustice. His “a rising tide lifts all boat” philosophy is just another way of saying, “I don’t give a fuck about them. They will just have to take the marginal gains which comes with the significant gains for the nation as a whole.” What’s really dangerous about having a black man supporting this dogma, is that it gives support to the racists who claim that there is no racism and therefore it is not fair to have programs which takes race into consideration.
His nonchalant attitude to a justice system which seems only designed to achieve the genocide of the black race, is even more disturbing. Despite he and his AG being black, there is no effort to reform the criminal justice system which systematically decimates the black community with its tried and tested tactics. For example, the so called war on drugs, where blacks are targeted most and given the harshest sentence. A tactic, which at the very least, is a form of silent genocide. And if two black men won’t do anything about it, who do we expect will? How longer will we have to suffer through this system which incarcerates us five times more than the general population? What will it take for black people to wake up?
But I’m going to assume that blacks who continue to be die hard supporters of this man, despite his dangerous attitude, is taking a more extreme and misguided view of racial politics. The argument must be that in the long run, the black race will benefit from his re-election even though individually we won’t. The argument must be that in generations to come, his election and re-election will serve as an inspiration to blacks who would not be aware of the damage he contributed to the cause. But can we realistically make that argument when we don’t know what will be the long term consequence of his supposedly “post-racial” presidency?
“A Dark Pupil, Watching: On being black in the era of Obama” puts it best:
“In many ways, Barack Obama is precisely the problem with the black community. He represents the death of the Civil Rights era and, to that end, he’s facing very little resistance. He’s accomplished something that no president (or anyone for that matter) has been able to do. He’s largely secured our unconditional surrender. To speak “critically” (read honestly) of him is tantamount to a death sentence in the white-controlled black media. The rules for black people are crystal clear: 1) we must be silent in our suffering with regard to him. 2) We must not be critical of the person who quotes the very best of us while continuing the policies of the very worst. 3) Individual success is far more important than aggregate success. His example shows us that the fate of every black man, woman and child pales in comparison to the opportunity of one African-American to become president.”
Reds, that last quote left me speechless. It is just so RIGHT ON.