*The Sweetie Pie family is serving reality tea.

After facing personal tragedy, legal turmoil and incarceration, Miss Robbie and Tim Norman are back in, “Welcome To Sweetie Pie’s,” debuting Saturday, November 19 at 8pm E/P on OWN.

EUR correspondent Fahnia Thomas sat down with the family matriarch and heir to the throne and discussed franchise, gluten free food and St. Louis P.D.

EUR: This season we see you opening more locations, would you ever franchise Sweetie Pie’s?

Tim Norman: It’s strange that in our country we represent a large percentage of the population and black culture is so prominent in America but there are no African-American chains. Latin people, Middle East people and Asian people come over and do their thing in business…we’ve been here for a while, when is it time for us to start doing our thing? One of my goals is to be one of the first African American restaurant franchises because it doesn’t exist. Why are there of plenty of fried chicken franchises but no black national fried chicken franchise?

Sweetie Pie's

Sweetie Pie’s

EUR: How are the California restaurants different from the Midwest restaurants?

Tim Norman: It’s weird in L.A. People ask for the strangest things, like a piece of fried chicken but with no breading or fried catfish with no breading. Or ask us if our pie’s have sugar in them. People come all of the time and ask for low calorie and fat free.

Miss Robbie: They say, ‘Miss Robbie you need to get the sugar free pie.’ Then I get the sugar free pie and I never see them again.

Scene from 'Welcome to Sweetie Pie's' season four

Scene from ‘Welcome to Sweetie Pie’s’ season four

EUR: Season four touches on the tragic loss of your grandson, Andre Montgomery, how did you and your employees cope and have they found the murderer?

Miss Robbie: We just kept going because we have the business to run. The customers sent condolences, flowers, and cards, they gave us strength to keep going. We never took time off. What hurts is, they still haven’t found who killed Andre yet. It looks like they’re not trying to because in St. Louis there are two or three Black men murdered a night, so there aren’t enough detectives to go around. His mother calls every week. We keep bugging them to find out what is going on.