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Exmun
Comment: Mo' you really didn't appear to give any thought to the "I want half" angle. Money is always a motive. And for the other party to the sex tape making money from a tape of an intimate thing without compensation to Farrell would certainly offer a different motive than you suggested. Don't you think?
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SmokeyBones2004
Comment: Your whole premise is wrong. He has dated numerous "Black" or mixed-raced women before. His baby's momma is a Creole from Louisiana (although she looks 100% white). TRY AGAIN!
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: Dated? Have they been on his arm at an awards ceremony? Are their pictures in reputable magazines with them? Or are they just friends with privileges?
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SpelmanRho
Comment: I see where MoK is coming from on this end. Many might want to have sex with us, but very few white men (especially those with "something to lose") want to marry black women or recognize their relationships with black women as legitimate.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: Exactly...and precedent had already been set. Sex tapes don't ruin careers. And people of much better 'image' had no problem with them...but Colin does? Questionable.
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DCGG
Comment: Now this is news - damn the war in Iraq, the screwed up economy, the state of black america - - Mo Kelly I get your point but this girl is a whore - so perhaps it had more to do with the fact that she was a whore versus black?
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: And Paris Hilton? Pam Anderson? I mean, again...precedent had been set. Colin Farrell didn't have a 'rep' worth protecting anyway...it would be different if he did.
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leokev
Comment: The fact that the tape was "stolen" from her residence makes her motives very suspect. In spite of any physical shortcomings, most men would not be embarrassed that they were caught on tape getting their freak on with a playboy centerfold. Nicole complained at first too, but quickly wanted to make a deal for money. I guess hanging out nekkid at Hef's mansion isn't as financially satisfying as she thought it would be.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: I can't disagree with anything you allege about Nicole and she is what she is. And honestly, I doubt the tape would be worth 1/10th the amount it is now if Farrell didn't sue to block its release. Besides, bootleg copies are already on the internet...so its perceived value is questionable at best.
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Lania0804
Comment: Mr. O'Kelly,
It is with regret that I inform you of a few misonceptions on your part about Colin Farrell and the reasons you allege and attribute to his not wanting the video with Nicole Narain released to the general public.
You claim that his fight has to do with Nicole's race. Sir, you could not be more wrong. The most glaring case-in-point is that his son's mother, Kim Bordenave, is of mixed race (African-American among them). Accordingly, that makes Colin's son part African-American, a son that he loves with every fiber of his being.
Additionally, you mention the sex chat lawsuit, questioning Colin for not filing a countersuit. The plaintiff in that case, Desarae Bradford, is African-American.
Unfortunately, we live in a society where, for some people, the race of the other party would be the sole reason for wanting to block the distribution of a sexual videotape.
Colin Farrell is not one of those people.
In your rush to judgment, did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, his reason for wanting to block this videotape's release is simply wanting to protect his privacy?
One could reasonably argue that the man's had his fair share of "naked time" on-screen in his movies. That's irrefutably true; however, voluntary nudity or simulated sex in a film is different from private sexual acts.
If one believes the media's spin on the "Irish bad boy", it's understandable to see how protecting his privacy in this case may be perceived as growing a conscience overnight. Instead of buying into the media spin like a lemming or one of Pavlov's dogs, having an original thought just might be the better course.
Like you, I would never force my opinion on anyone; and, I recommend that you take your own advice -- maybe even do a little more research -- before offering up a flimsy theory specifically designed to paint someone a racist.
There are enough blatant racists in this country, in this world (even one is too many). Where's your diatribe on them ... or was Colin Farrell, yet again, too easy of a target?
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: I guess you didn't read too closely. I never doubted that he 'liked' sistas...but he does not publicly link himself to them. Big difference.
Try reading it again and start over. I never painted HIM as a racist. As I said, read closely. I found it to be more the people around him.
Try again and I'll respond to your comments.
It's hard to claim 'privacy' if you make a tape with someone else. That someone else has equal right to it. And probably has complete ownership if she possesses it. You know, possession is 9/10 of the law.
I've done my research, obviously you haven't done yours. I've covered a number of 'racists' and since you haven't done your homework on me...you've exposed your ignorance on the matter once again.
So what I think you should do is keep campaigning for re-election as president of the Farrell fan club and try again next month.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: I never said Colin didn't like Black women...hell even ELVIS slept with Sistas...slave masters slept with Sistas. But to say that her ethnicity had bearing on this case is worthy of discussion.
Nobody said he was a racist, I said the desire to 'protect' his image is odd, contrived and inconsistent at best.
You know when a 'fan' takes an article so personally and respond emotionally...it's just that...a fan speaking.
Be sure to watch your copy of Alexander tonight and tell Colin I said hello.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: Does a person who sends 500 text messages (all of which can be saved and forwarded) is he/she REALLY concerned with privacy? Probably not.
You want privacy, you don't make sex tapes as a celebrity. Think about that one for a moment.
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Lania0804
Comment: Wow. Three comments to my one. Looks like an emotional response there, Morris. It's all good, though. I'm both flattered and amused.
You got me. I'm a fan. (Didn't care for Alexander much though.) The re-election crack was a good one. Funny.
Ok, you got me two times. This posting IS the only one of yours I've read. Mea culpa; and, I'll take my smack now.
Here's the thing: Colin doesn't do anything that Colin doesn't want to do, no matter what anyone around him wants or says, because he IS a free-spirited person that lives his life, his way.
Desarae Bradford's cases (there were two) were both dismissed; so, if he was really the guy that sent her 500 text messages, she would've won at least one of her cases.
To comment on one of your earlier responses (to SmokeyBones2004), Colin did take Kim, his son's mother, to the Academy Awards while they were together. Red carpet and everything. The man even gave interviews on camera about how beautiful she is. There's pictures of the two of them together, just as there are pictures of him with Nicole, who was his girlfriend (no quotes needed).
When they made the tape, he wasn't an A-lister. I'll give it to you, though. He broke the first rule of home porn: get all the copies if you break up. Stupid, STUPID, move on his part; and, you'll get no argument from me on that.
As for the case about the tape, if the only tenet in play was "possession is 9/10 of the law", there'd be no case now would there? If the case was based on whether or not the videotape was copyrightable material, federal law would allow Nicole to distribute it freely as a co-author of the work. Colin's case is based on privacy law, as well as breach of contract (among other counts), not copyright law. Federal courts have decided twice that copyright law does not apply, which is why this case is again at the state court level. (Oops. Looks like I've done my research.)
While you didn't use the term 'racist' in your commentary, that was certainly the implication; and, I strongly disagree that Nicole's race/ethnicity has bearing in this case. I can see how, to you, there's inconsistency ... because I am a fan of his, meaning that I've seen where and when he's either admitted to his mistakes, stood up for himself so the story doesn't get twisted, or not even bothered to comment because the claim made is so outlandish.
Looks like we'll have to agree to disagree in the interests of fairness, or you could join the campaign and be my running mate (if you didn't want the Presidency, that is). In either event, have a great day!
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: Very simply...the case is about DISTRIBUTION RIGHTS of the tape...the ownership is not in question. Since there is more than one person on the tape, then distribution rights is a question. Possession is not in doubt. You can't distribute that which you don't own. Now Colin's case, he may predicate his argument along the laws of privacy, but that isn't the case...it's about distribution. He has no ownership claim.
As for 3 to one...it's simply a matter of me doing five different things at once and later remembering points I wish to make...it's a common fact for me to respond in multiples...again, if you actually READ my column with any regularity...you'd know that too.
And as for him not being an "A-Lister" when he made the tape...that's a very weak argument. If you are a 'celebrity' and in any way concerned with your public persona, then you gotta know making a sex tape with a playmate will make its rounds. Get real. And I will be making a second comment later because I have to shower right now.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: Lastly, if you concede he is a 'free spirit' and has made 'plenty of mistakes,' you in effect prove my point. Don't get concerned about your 'image' now. This should be par for the course. Nobody cared about this tape until he made a stink about it. It would've been 'smarter' to simply let it fly and cut a side deal with Narain for a percentage of the profits.
But for those of you who've commented that he truly 'loves' Black women or that the tape would be embarrassing to his family or he wants 'privacy'...you're reaching on all accounts. Until he LEGITIMIZES his relationships with these women (and a child doesn't do that...read: Thomas Jefferson) it's all irrelevant.
If you want privacy...act in a PRIVATE manner. If you don't want to embarrass folks...act accordingly. EVERYTHING he's done is in direct contradiction to both, but NOW he LOVES Black women and just wants some privacy?
Have him marry one and then come talk to me. Because as far as I'm concerned, all I see is a fetish that is conflicting with his star profile. It would've been FAR easier and far more lucrative to let the tape ride.
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Winn30344
Comment: Could you post a pic of you coming out the shower because you certainly look cute in that other pic..
Yeah it's a shallow comment and has nothing to do with the subject but darn; that's a cute pic of you.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: Damn...that caught me by surprise. I am truly flattered. But see...if I do that, I'd be damaging my 'image.' I can't have nude/semi-nude photos floating around. :) But if somebody were to offer you or me 3million for it/them...by all means sell them and give me a cut. :)
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Angel
Comment: Morris - I didn't see the take, but from what I heard there are portions of the take in which his head is buried in her crotch going for broke. Now I don't know about you, but I don't know too many men who want folks to see them doing that. Now if the video was strictly him scr*wing her brains out, he probably would have been handing out copies on every corner. LOL
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Angel
Comment: Oops, take=tape
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queeniebunz
Comment: I disagree completely with your premise. It is not a bad thing to be seen with or to date or to marry a black woman - especially to a European. Robert DeNiro is the poster child for loving himself some sistas and his career has flourished and NOBODY CARES, even when he has sista-girl drama with his women - custody battles/divorce stuff, etc. Your argument this week is weak. Aside from that, you just got an article idea from ole GW Bush when he said he didn't want war in his speech and instead you write about party boy Farrell? What gives? Farrell has always given me the impression that he just wants sex/no strings and that anybody willing is okay with him as long as she understands that he only wants her for a night/weekend/few minutes. Why in the world are you wasting your space/opinion/column on a party boy like him when there are relevant issues? Even if he is ashamed of being caught on tape w/a sista, nobody cares about him and nobody takes him seriously, well, except you...
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Angel - I saw a couple of edited pics of him in her crotch, too. I was like, wow! Colin is getting down...
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: Wow Queenie,
If anybody, I thought you would be able to see 'past' the obvious. It's not about 'the sex tape.' It's about the fact that Black women are ok to 'date' (and mind you we're talking sex chat workers and strippers/nude models) but not legitimize. And when I wright on political issues, I get 'yawns' from people such as yourself who remind me that this is an 'entertainment' website. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. And yes, I've seen the screenshots of the tape.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: I'll remember not to think about the objectivization of women in the future and stick strictly to 'proper' topics. Thanks Queenie. But it wasn't about 'Colin.' It's about the dismissal of sistas...and Colin happened to be the person in question on THIS occasion. As for DeNiro...he hasn't fought any connection with Black women...and therein lies the difference. Neither has Roger Ebert...and he even married one. So, I'm not sure your argument has legs in that respect.
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queeniebunz
Comment: I think you missed my point. What I am saying is that there is no reason for Farrell to be ashamed when a superstar like DeNiro marries black women and no one says anything and it doesn't in any way harm his career. In other words, I disagree with you that he is ashamed of the tape because she is black. I think he disagrees with it because it is so intimate and between the 2 of them. And, I go on further to say that he is so much of a party boy that the color of who he is sexing doesn't matter to him. And I go on to say that he is foreign, too. Foreigners don't have the same hang ups about marrying/dating/sexing black women as Americans do. Didn't you see "Love and Basketball" when the other player tells her that Italians love sistas? That is true. Englishmen, Frenchmen, Italians, etc. - love sistas...Farrell is English, I think...
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queeniebunz
Comment: But let me say that I am not denying that racism exists in the places I mentioned. All I am saying is that other countries are more open and accepting about interracial dating than this country is.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: I think you missed MY point too. I pointed more blame at those handling his career, which I stated clearly. And just because OTHER men don't have a problem with dating Black women, it doesn't mean that there isn't also a stigma attached. Hell, Black men dating white women still has a stigma. Have Denzel have a sex tape with a white woman and see how well the Black community appreciates that...him being married notwithstanding.
I think it is naive to think that it's ok across the board in Hollywood. No way. And I think for Colin or anyone to call this 'intimate' is a reach. Just my opinion. Sex may be intimate on occasion, but when you make a tape of it...and you're not married...uh, don't know what to tell you. Their relationship obviously wasn't THAT deep.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: I believe we're saying the same thing on some levels...YES it shouldn't be the way it is in this country, but at the end of the day it is. Of course the rest of the world handles interracial relationships better than we do, but lest we forget the hate mail B.B. Thornton and Halle received from BOTH communities because of their sex scene...and that wasn't even real! It still matters in terms of the perception of stars. The difference is how some stars choose to address it. The DeNiros of the world don't care...but the others absolutely do and it's a factor in the presentation of some star actors.
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Angel
Comment: Morris - I still want to know. Do men want to be seen with their head in a woman's crotch? Do you think Paris Hilton's ex would've distributed that tape if he was the one giving head? To me, that was Colin's "image" issue. Bad boys and "action hero" types don't want to be seen in a submissive type position, do they? Isn't that worst than getting caught crying on a woman's shoulder? LOL
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: Hmmm, there are two issues there...whether men in general would be bothered or whether I specifically would be bothered. I personally would be bothered only if 'she' wasn't shown really getting off on it...that to me would make me look bad. I don't know about men in general. In a porn sense, it's a pretty common scene, so I don't know if men would perceive that as being 'subserviant.' I guess it all depends on the scene here in question. But again, don't do it on tape if you're worried about the world seeing it.
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Angel
Comment: You're absolutely right. I still don't get how anyone would allow another person to have a video of them getting busy, even if the other person is in the video. To me, if you have such a video and the other person in it wants to keep it, it should be kept in a vault and treated like a nuclear weapon--there has to be a passcode (which changes daily) and the passcode can't be entered unless the 2 keys are entered into the locks and turned simultaneously and the distance between the 2 locks is at such a distant that one person could not do it alone. Then maybe I would consider it. LOL
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Angel
Comment: Morris - back to the crotch think. Pornos don't count. You can find men and women doing almost anything in those dayum movies. I'm talking about average everyday folk. I just can't see a guy pulling out a homemade tape to show his friends where he's got his face shoved in a girl's crotch. Typically, if there are any "head" shots, it's only the girl.
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Name:
Angel
Comment: oops! think=thing
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: It's official...this discussion has hit bottom. :0 That (to the left) would be the international symbol for cunnilingus. Again, I'm just not sure. It wouldn't bother me if I'm handling mine (provided she's screaming and carrying on) but I guess it's up to the other men. You do bring up a good point as to what supposedly is 'masculine' or not in terms of sex.
I wouldn't know...I'm a virgin...allegedly. :(|) (that's the best I can do in terms of making two lips and a tongue in the middle.)
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Kensbroh
Comment: Morris, I don't think you addressed the issue w/the supposed chat Ms Bradford had on him. I remember when that story came out about 2 yrs. ago. It was profiled on Celebrity Justice. The woman didn't have much credibiity b/c she did a similar thing to Alec Baldwin some years ago. She supposedly wrote a book about how Baldwin was into S&M, among other things. She also has a criminal record of conning other people for money.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: I would never say that the text message suit should be assumed to be 'credible' if that's what you meant. I was saying that he should have been equally ardent and vociferous about that situation and seemed more indifferent than anything. Why not be indifferent now, that's my real question. What's so 'bad' about this tape?
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Name:
Calidee
Comment: I'm not sure of the motive behind Colin's desire to not have his sex tape made public. It could be to protect his privacy, hide the fact that he ain't packing (if you know what I mean) or becasue it shows him with a Black woman.
What I do know is that for the most part famous White men do not have public relationships with Black women. Robert Deniro is an exception and he is only one man. This is very odd to me particularly when you consider the number of famous Black men who have no problem being with White women in public.
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