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coesmo
Comment: This was a really good book...
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OSUN
Comment: Sad. Some people are really ignorant to make comments like that the ones she quoted in the article. When I first read the headline I immediately thought Oh no here we go again, but as I read the article I could sympathize with the hurt and confusion she must feel.
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mcoreo
Comment: I am mixed and I am happy. No big issues I nor my sister carry around. We are happy with who we are. Maybe it was growing up in L.A. and it not being a big issue. If anything it was an advantage. But it is hard to identify with mixed people that are crying "pity me I am mixed" i.e. Halle Berry always trying to come up with some horror story. She makes me sick to my stomach with that. Anyway, I do not believe that you should crown yourself one race wither. You are black and white and whatever and that is what you are. You cannot just say "I am a black woman" because you are more than black woman you are white woman and whatever else that is mixed in. And I agree that black people are the first to try to say something negative when you are mixed. I see it over and over on this board. when they cannot address a comment I made they just talk about my name mc-OREO (oreo for mixed) and how I have white in me. My life is great and I do not think about what race(s) I am much. That's it.
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Bertie
Comment: well I guess everybody's experience is going to be different. It seems like she identifies exclusively black because she was raised by her black mother and hasn't had a relationship with her white father (nor presumably that side of the family) since she was 8.
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DCGG
Comment: Oh the tragic mulattoo oh woes her - I agree with mcoreo - this whole "I'm mixed" thing has been re-hashed over and over again - this day and age I really don't think anyone gives a ratz azz about anyone being mixed - hell she looks black or latino to me...
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blackman
Comment: Sorry she had to put up with that kind of mess, but all black folks do not have skin issues/mixed issues/tragic mulatto issues. Anyway, she looks black to me. >mcoreo...so that does have a meaning.
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coesmo
Comment: I'm mixed too and I never had a problems with myself..My dad is black and my mom is white...I identify black because that's how I've always been treated and that's who embraced me...I grew up in the south and in the North and I've found people to be more ignorant in the south..white and black..I've always felt like I was born this way, I'm gonna die this way so why stress over it...
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Gurlfrand
Comment: >DCGG - you are right. We have heard this story over, and over, and over before - Lisa Bonet, Lenny Kravitz, Halle, Giancarlo Esposito, Cree Summer, Troy Beyer, the list is long - all of their stories all sound the same to me. I feel for them, cause, I have members of my extended family who shares the same exact story! I would like to know, what do they want us to do? Who is Angela Nissel?
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mcoreo
Comment: Yes Blackman, it does have a meaning. I grew up being called an oreo and I just added my first 2 initals and it is just my name online for many years now.
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mcoreo
Comment: I just want to say too how hard it is for a white mother to try to raise mixed kids. I remember black family telling my mom all the wrong things she is doing, she is spoiling me, I do not know the black side of me. So thinking she was doing what is best I spent6th, 7th and 8th grade living with one black family in the same city (family friends) and 9th grade with another black family living 1 block away from my mom. I saw my mom about 2 to 3 times a week. She did alot to try to raise me right and give me all views. She even would take me to the slauson swapmeet to shop! In the end I think that I can fit in with white people at work and then I can still be cool with the black people. I never feel like the odd person out.
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Industrypro
Comment: I am proud to be an American in so many ways but when it comes to race issues the a lot of folks both black and white are so ignorant. Why should anyone care or make nasty comments just because someone is mixed or light skinned? If people were more concerned about themselves and what they can do to contribute to make our society a better place to live then race would be a mute point.
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blackman
Comment: >mcoreo..you should not feel like the odd person out because there is nothing wrong with you being you. only character should count and besides, it seems as if you know who you are.
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OneShot
Comment: So because the story has been told, it should now be forgotten? If that's the case then there is no need to write or discuss anything because there is truly nothing new under the sun. I am not mixed, but I was not raised on that dark skinned, light skinned, good hair, bad hair crap and I am from the South. I can't imagine being caught between the two races, but I understand what she is saying about the rejection and then getting cursed out when she identifies with the white side of herself. Folks are fickle and the best thing to do is not try to please them.
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ind1chez
Comment: mcoreo,
Telling the truth about your feeling (no matter who you are) and how you were treated by other people who look different from you is NOT a pity story. Black on black racism
or Black on biracial racism is very real in this world. It may not have been YOUR reality but fact of the matter is we do discriminate against each other. This discrimation causes much pain and hurt in people of color especially young children who carry their scars into adulthood.
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dsgirl
Comment: Angela Nissell wrote 'The Broke Diaries' a few years back. It was a very good book and you'll see that light skin did not bring any extra $ to her pocket (to those who say light-skinned Blacks have IT easier). I have a cousin who's pretty much white (long explanation) as far as her features go and though we're from L.A., she was the only person I knew who was caught up in the light skin/dark skin issue. Until recently, I didn't know what her hangup was (she was adopted by people who pretty much praised her White features) but if you ever see that episode of 'Behind the Music' with Lenny Kravitz, you'll see all his friends shown are biracial.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: JMO...I think bi-racial folks are %*$!ed off cause they missed being white by a few drops...Let's face it...It's hard being Black out here...Harder than being a pimp...I betcha when they're being racially profiled they're saying to themselves..."Dayum, just a few more drops of white blood and I wouldn't have to deal with this sh1t"...LMBAO
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OneShot
Comment: BOOTANE: Your comment reminds me of that episode of the Jefferson where Jenny went off on her "white" brother.
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queeniebunz
Comment: Boot - it isn't like that at all - there is no way on this planet that I would want to be white. As a matter of fact, I wish my mother WASN'T white because it is impossible for a white woman to teach you how to be a black woman in this society. They think racism doesn't exist and they don't want to believe their people would do the things they have obviously done. I will only speak for myself but what I have wanted is to be allowed to be me, whatever that is. If I talk a certain way, I'm "talking white" or being a Becky. If I use slang, my mother would say I'm being ignorant and should talk better. No one would let me be myself so I tend to stay away from people for the most part. And no, Ms. McOreo - it isn't all sunshine and roses like it was for you for everyone else. You are the type of person with no empathy that makes it difficult for someone like this woman to express herself. It is not a sob story to tell the mean, cruel things people say to you. It is just recording what happened. And, if she got her feelings hurt, as I did a lot, that is okay, too. It is okay to admit that people hurt your feelings. If you don't acknowledge your feelings you can't deal with them and resolve them. This whole "we're so tough" attitude that many people and yes, many black people have, can be detrimental if it is a facade. Suicide is big killer in our community and I believe it is because we are taught to suck it up and not acknowledge when we are hurting. Drug and alcohol and overeating are also problems and guess what - those people are self-medicating because they are HURTING so you all need to get some empathy and stop with this "tough guy/girl" routine because a lot of it is fake.
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coesmo
Comment: Boot..usually you're funny but not today...Queenie..it sounds like you haven't accepted yourself for who you truly are..
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Coesmo - you are actually off. I completely accept me. I just get a lil hot when people choose to judge others
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queeniebunz
Comment: I will say also that I think someone people live in the past a bit too much and not in the present. I think writing something like this was probably carthartic for this woman and that calling it a sob story does it an injustice. She may be helping someone else who doesn't feel understood.
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Kofi
Comment: It is funny that no mention of how her father was made when I heard her interview on NPR. This sistah came off sounding like a dippy white girl. She is very talented and intelligent. In this racist white supremacist culture, all black people are taught to somehow hate/fear their own blackness. Our own self hate will manifest itself in many ways (ie black on black violence, intra-racial issues and hatred toward biracial children.)
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Pammy
Comment: Queeniebuzz, I can so relate to what you said. I'm not bi-racial but I am a very light skinned black woman. Everyone else in my family is darker than me. I had to deal with being chased home for being lightskinned with long hair, having girls call me names loudly in the lunchroom and playground, even in college having to deal with that "who does she think she is" mentality. It does make you retreat into yourself. Or, if you are around other black girls, you try to fit in cuz that's how it goes when you are in school. It can really screw with your sense of self. I had an uncle who would give my sister all the candy and treats and hugs and kisses and tell me to my face that he wasn't giving me shyt because I'm high yella. It was very very painful.
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Beezyuu
Comment: OK, I really never wanted to mention this on the board but my mom's white and my dad's black and who gives a good fucck. I know I don't because I don't used the words mixed and bi-racial to describe myself, I say I'm Black and that's that. Everytime I hear Halle with that long drawn out story of her being bi-racial and the problems she's has, make me think that the real problem is Halle. I say pick a race, Black or White because if you say things like, I'm both or I don't see myself as black or white or I'm from the best of both worlds or in the famous words of Tiger Woods "Don't call me Black" because that mean's that I don't acknowledge my Tai heritage. I think Halle should refer to herself as white because most of the time she's confused about herself anyway.
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onyxeyes
Comment: I hate to tell you all but being biracial isn't bew or unique. This is something that has existed since humanity. I'm a little tired of people who act like it's some kind of new phenomenon. People have travelled the globe and intermingled forever. Yhe reality is you're gonna get treated according to how you look. I'm light-skinned and I meet people who have all kinds of identity confusion even though they're shades darker than I am. Life isn't always easy for light or dark people, worldwide. Everyone needs to remember that.
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beegirl
Comment: Pammy, I feel you. I am Jamaican but light-skinned, and most of the problems I have about my appearance have been with other black women who for some reason think I think I'm "cute" before I even open my mouth. (And who cares if I do. I just so happen to be cute. LOL.) The whole light/dark thing is very much alive so let's not sweep it under the rug because it has been discussed before. And I don't think biracial children should have to "choose." They have both heritages, so the choice has already been made for them. To me, the whole idea that you should have to "pick a team" just goes to show how deep racism truly runs, even within our own ranks. In a perfect world, both sides would accept you without you having to jump through hoops to prove your allegiance. But we all know this world is far from perfect. And just a side note, I have been visiting this board for a while, though I don't always post, and I would never have guessed that so many posters were biracial. In some threads, it seems like interracial relationships are frowned upon by the masses. In any event, thanks for sharing your stories.
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TheDiva
Comment: I am definetely going to read both her books. I'm Black but I am married to a an of a different race. It's refreshing to see a person like Angela who isn't caught up in the Mariah Carey "I'm confused" crap. And BOOT, I don't know you like that, but what you are saying isn't thought out well at all. No one can help who or what they are born into. And I am sure that there are some biracial people who fall into the category you are describing--but this Sista obviously isn't one of them, so how does your comment apply?
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ind1chez
Comment: Barack O'Bama also has talked about the problems with idenity he has had with being biracial. I'm sure women won't take issue with him. Other people bring up Halle's skin color and her parents so tell how is that her fault ?
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thinker
Comment: The only thing that should be mixed is a cake. Why do you think the Black community is gradually becoming extinct?
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Name:
ss69054
Comment: If you are black or have black blood in America, chances are your great great great great great great grandfather is white and/or Native American. Nobody is full black if u live in America. Nobody...Decades on down it will be more multicultural than anything..also who says that light skin girls get treated so badly...for years dark skin women have caught more hell than a little...look at the videos, movies, etc. They are just starting to recognize the darker shade of brown...Black folks, bi-racial folks -- Get over it and move on and live life the way you want to...We are our worst enemy at times b/c we concentrate too much on color instead of finding solutions to a problems...when will we all get off the back of the bus????
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