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telthepe
Comment: whenever these brothas realize what battles to take on, the rest of the world is going to be in trouble. can you imagine if all these hip hop brothers and sisters were all on one accord?; nothing less than freedom, liberation, and justice for their people. believe me, if there was no threat to their way of life, they wouldn't expend so much money and resources throwing obstacles in our path. we not only have to maneuver around these obstacles, but stop falling into the traps set for us. 1love.
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Industrypro
Comment: Something about this story does not make sense. A duty free store and lounge are two separate things. One has nothing to do with the other. Need more facts here.
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McNasty
Comment: Where's the story? This isn't news - this is expected, isn't it?
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Thunny
Comment: It says they wilded out in the duty free store after they were refused entry at the first class lounge. The real question is why were they refused entry to the first class lounge? Not sure why you guys are looking at it from a "Snoop is bad" perspective when he is an international celebrity and should have been admitted in the first class lounge, where I'm sure he's been plenty of times before. It's not like he was flying coach and tried to sneak him and his boys in the first class lounge. I don't blame them for protesting, but I blame them for how they protested. Because had Snoop thought this through, he could have easily booked another flight on another airline and filed a discrimination suit against British Airways.
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streetdancer
Comment: What a idiot, Snoop is still trying to at tough, seems like he hasn't learned anything from his time at Death Row. The Airlines did the right thing if they felt the lives of other on the flight could be in risk of a beatdown from Snoop's drunk azz friends on the plane. Think about this, if these negros will attack the cops, why not a passenger that doesn't want to be bother with Snoop's and em's loud azz, ignorant actions.
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Renetta
Comment: Maybe they didn’t admit him because they thought he was Oprah. He looks like a damn woman with those silly azz plats in his head. What a loser. Washed-up, haggered looking impotent playa. Hah boyeeeeeeee. F him and all the other so-called playa, gangstas etc etc etc. He looks more like a byatch then anyone he would call a byatch. Stop callin black women byatches and hos, stop drinkin, druggin and clean yourself up. Loser.
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Thunny
Comment: Streetdancer, if you're an international superstar used to first class accommodations (especially since that's what you paid for) and the first class lounge denies you entrance for whatever reason, are you just going to be complacent and accept it? Who said the airline feared for the lives of others on the flight? This wasn't even the airplane, it was the lounge!
Renetta, maybe if the black women Snoop is referring to would stop acting like byatches and hos then Snoop wouldn't have anyone to call those names. But I think we both know byatches and hos exist in a major way. Especially in 2006. By the way, we should all be "losers," as you call Snoop. The boy is worth millions and is very successful in everything he does.
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streetdancer
Comment: Snoop maybe a superstar but his boys ain't and that's where the problem lies. First of all I grew up in the LBC and Snoop doesn't rate in the top 25 of tought cats that came out of Long Beach. His whole image has been built off of hype which people outside of the LBC that don't know any better buy into. I not saying he's a losers but if you call that being a sucess, no wonder why so many young black males are headed for a life of unemployment, prison and AIDS.
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McNasty
Comment: 'if the black women Snoop is referring to would stop acting like byatches and hos then Snoop wouldn't have anyone to call those names.' Never a truer statement were spoken. I get tired of the women on this board talking about what some of these rappers say about some females. I don't take it personally cause they aren't my generation's musicians and talent but Nelly damn sure couldn't swipe an atm card through the crack of an azz if an azz wasn't bent over! The sexual exploits they rap about wouldn't have substance or content if some females weren't out there doin' it. Females have just as much responsibility over this lack of respect and the names as these foolish boys do.
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Angel
Comment: Thunny - On CNN, it was stated that Snoop tried to gain entry into the lounge with 30 other people. Now, unless all of them had first class tickets, I can see how there was a dispute about gaining entry. If they indeed all had first class tickets, then something seems shady. Regardless, throwing liquor bottles in the Duty Free shop is never the answer.
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Angel
Comment: Thunny - Just so you know, if you cut the fool in the airport, they will NEVER let you on the plane. Who wants to deal with that ish at 30,000 feet.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...I'm cosigning with Thun...Why was he refused entry?...This wasn't da plane, da plane..It was the lounge...Did he and his crew offend somebody?...Yo, if I paid to go first class then I should be treated as such...don't treat me like economy...If entry to lounge comes with that first class ticket...then let my azz up in there...fuc what I'm wearing...I'm reyotch beyotch...
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streetdancer
Comment: No Angel, the problem is this Image that Snoop and most of these so called gangster rappers portray but can't really back up without 15 other negros standing behind them but I do have a simply solution on fixing it. Bring back Celebrity Boxing, put Snoop, Jay-Z, 50 cents and all the rest of em that likes to run off at the mouth about how tought they are in a boxing ring, gloved up and them let the public see. Trust me, if you think album sales are low now, wait till the day after the fans see their favorite Shyt talkin rapper laid out on the canvas.
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Renetta
Comment: To those who complain about me speaking against snop for calling black women byatches and hos. Jewish, Hispanic, Italian, Polish men don’t stand by and cheer and encourage and support LOSERS who spew disgusting lyrics about their women. I get tired of 'brothas' who sit idly by sayin 'well byatches do exist' - so do trifling black men - but if there were the same number of female groups contiually calling black men worthless because they don’t support their children you all would be the FIRST ones complaing. And incidentally there are a lot of rich LOSERS. Having money doesn’t erase a fked up mentality.
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Thunny
Comment: Why is it hard to believe that Snoop and the alleged 30 people he was with did not have first-class accommodations? Snoop could buy that damn plane if he wanted to! Europe is very racist as a whole, especially against black folks. Add to that the fact that he's a wealthy American and the anti-Black sentiments only increase.
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Thunny
Comment: So Streetdancer, let me get this right -- you're against the image of violence portrayed on wax but you're in favor of promoting violence among rappers in the boxing ring?
Renetta, have you ever heard of "sticks and stones"? So what if someone cals you a name? Grow up! It's just entertainment, and according to SioundScan, plenty of folks are being entertained by the type of music Snoop makes. And of course just having dough doesn't get you a free pass from being a loser. But you're overlooking how Snoop earned his money -- as a rapper. And the consensus is that he is a successful rapper. I don't know how else to define Snoop's career.
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streetdancer
Comment: Hey Renetta, I have one for you, I said the same thing awhile back to some of my Euro lookin Hebrew buddies, asking them what would happen if some of these rapper that they make money off of and listen to put out a song called My Jewish Hoe, Jewish Bytch or Jewish P-ssy. It got really quiet, tense and then they said it would never happen cause we would never allow it to happen without being taken care of. I told them, the same way you feel about others disrespecting your women, I as a Black man with by the way Jewish background feel about the women in my community.
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Thunny
Comment: Streetdancer, that's because the Jews own and run all the record companies. Don't be naive.
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Victornator
Comment: I am sure Europe (and the rest of the world) are racist, but most black people I have spoken to say that America is more racist than Europe. I have even heard white Europeans say that America is more racist than Europe.
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Angel
Comment: Thunny - So if it became hip for rappers to refer to black men as fagg*ts in every song, would you just keep bobbing your head then? Sticks and Stones my azz.
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streetdancer
Comment: Sorry Thunny, but Jews don't run what you can record and sell out of your trunk/mom&pop record stores. The fact is that we let this image which is being glorified by the media, now be the defination of what being a sucessful young black man is all about. Yes I'm against promoting ignorance to our people, especially when it destroying the Black Family, The Black Male/Female and if one of the means of debunking this image is putting some of these rapper that love to run off at the mouth in a boxing ring to see if they can really back up what there saying, then I'm all for it. By the way, a well known rapper in the Rap community who was one of these so called gangster is having a very hard time in Riker's Prison, seems that some of his cell mates want to find out just how tough he really is but This Rappers is running scare and beggin to be tranfer to another prison. So much for being tough or can we say, Studio Gangster !
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TesticAl
Comment: LAFFIN MY FUCKKIN A$$ OFF at Jewish, Hispanic, Italian, and other ethnicities of people being discussed here! This absolutely has NOTHING to do with the lecture at hand. Y'all trip me out at times!
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Thunny
Comment: Um, Angel, I hate to be the one to tell you this but rappers DO call black men faggots; and much, much worse in plenty of songs. Through it all the beat still bangs, though. See, with me it's entertainment and nothing more. Just like how Quentin Tarantino calls black people "n*ggers" in movies. It's all meant for entertainment purposes. You should really develop a thicker skin because name-calling isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
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Angel
Comment: Thunny - You missed my point. If the term "fagg*t" became synonymous with the term "black man", I don't think you would feel the love. When the term "fagg*t" is currently used, it is meant to refer to a specific type of man who is either weak or gay. When the term b*tch or ho is used, it is typically referring to women in general, not a specific type of woman. And no, I don't have to get tougher skin. I choose not to fund this type of music with my hard earned money. But if you would support someone that constantly referred to you as a fagg*t, then more power to you.
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Angel
Comment: Thunny - And for the record, I don't support movies either that constantly spew the N-word when it's not relevant to anything.
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TesticAl
Comment: Biches ain't shyt but hoes and tricks, lick on these nutzs and suck the dyck. That is a CLASSIC song right there! Ya DIG.
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McNasty
Comment: This is silly and the whole name calling situation would never had gotten this bad had those buying the rap from the beginning stopped! You had the power but y'all just sat around with your thumbs in your butts waiting to see what else these rappers were gonna say and when they got raw with the words and description you still sat idly by. Now you hear what they worked for and you watched happen.
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McNasty
Comment: You co signed their nastiness by not saying anything or doing anything - so in a sense the critical public got what it deserved.
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McNasty
Comment: Testic you need your mouth washed out.LOL
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Victornator
Comment: Believe it or not, but the rest of the world's perception of black men is what is portrayed by the hip hop community. A friend of mine worked in Europe for about nine months. He wore 'business casual" clothing (khakis, etc.). Several white Europeans told him that he did not "dress black." Many of the black men he came across in Europe (mostly Africans) dressed like the buffoons they see in hip hop videos (pants hanging off their a$$es, do rags, wife beaters, Timberlands, etc.). Another friend of mine was in Korea and she saw several Korean men wearing do rags in public. I know some black men were the do rags to get those little waves in their hair, but isn't wearing them in public the equivalent of a women wearing big pink rollers in public or someone wearing a Jherri curl plastic bag in public?
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Thunny
Comment: Angel, why does a rapper have to be talking about me in particular? Maybe the people they're rapping about are fags or biches. Snoop has a line in an old song where he says "some of you n*ggas are b*tches too...". It's a true statement. It is what it is. You should get used to it.
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TesticAl
Comment: McNasty, I sure do! LOL! You guys have been telling me that for years. LOL!
Victornator, du-rags DO NOT GIVE YOU WAVES. To answer your question, I would say yes. Wearing a du-rag in public is equivalent of a woman wearing rollers or plastic bag. LOL!
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streetdancer
Comment: Victornator: I have one even better for you, I was at a club in London, England around 1995 with a buddy of mine in the Chinatown district, that night it was Hip Hop nite so I'm chillin out listening to Biggie when out of nowhere, five young Black Brits start crip walking to the music. About 20 minutes later 7 other young cat come the club, one of the was a white cat wearing Blood Colors, I say to the manager, what's up with that. He looks at me and says, this is what they're learing from you Black Americans. I say back to him, thank God you guys ain't doing drivebys, he replys to me, what are you talking about ! We just had a guy killed in a driveby last week. Gun violence in London is now up to 88% due mainly to young Black Brits wanting to be like their young Black America Counterparts. Yes folk, they are now Crippin in London, England
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Victornator
Comment: TesticAl, maybe I am calling it by the wrong name. I am not talking about finger waves. I am talking about this thing that kind of reminds your something an Arab Shiek would wear(normally black and it has a piece of fabric that hangs down the back of your neck and then two pieces of fabric on opposite sides of your head to tie at the base of your skull). Some brothas wear these while sleeping to produce these real subtle waves in their natural close cut hair.
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Thunny
Comment: Newsflash - drivebys weren't created by black people. Anybody ever heard of Al Capone? There's nothing new under the sun.
And Victor, people have been copying black folks for tens of decades. We set the trends and the rest of the world runs with it. Do rags and baggy jeans included. We're trend-setters. However, clothes do not make the man. Instead, you choose to call people buffoons based on their appearance. That makes you no better than a white woman who clutches her purse tighter at the mere sight of a black male.
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Renegade
Comment: >Victor..you must be old as dust if you have never worn a do-rag. Or you must be bald. Waves are what's happpenin' LMAO!!
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TesticAl
Comment: Victornator, I know exactly what you're talking about. You are talking about a du-rag. I was just telling you that du-rag does not give you waves. It LAYS YOUR HAIR DOWN. Brushing your hair in certain pattern gives you waves. Wearing the du-rag just keeps your hair neatly packed. I should knonw, I have been rockin' a taper my entire life. I hope that helps you.
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Victornator
Comment: Renegade, I just did not need a du-rag to achieve that effect.
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streetdancer
Comment: Newsflash Thunny: Drivebys were created by the Jewish Mob, who taught the Micks and Vito. Yes man that walks around with a Do rag or a Jheri Curl drip bag on in public is not only ghetto but ignorant.
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Thunny
Comment: Judge Streetdance her spoken! *slams down gavel*
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Thunny
Comment: Streetdancer, you just posted a minute ago, and quite authoritatively I might add, that "Gun violence in London is now up to 88% due mainly to young Black Brits wanting to be like their young Black America Counterparts," in reference to Brits committing drivebys. Not sure where you got your statistics from... But then you go on to post after that that drivebys were created by the Jewish Mob, proving my point that black folks did not create drivebys. So who are these young Black Brits really imitating. You really sound like 1) you hate Black people, and 2) like you hate yourself. Not all Black people are bad, Street.
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My2Pennies
Comment: Ain't a commercial airline around that has 30 first class seats.
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Name:
Victornator
Comment: Thunny, I call them buffoons because of the total package they present, not just what they are wearing (holding 40 ounces, promoting drug use, little kids "shakin" it, spending 10K+ on rims and not investing it in their kids future, etc.)
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FreeMswhite
Comment: Renetta,. HA HA HA,. u are funn. U are testament as to how black people are so lost. It is so funny u mentioned his hair. African men have ben wearing there hair long since the begining of time ( jesus) and America/Europeans have us thinking that we have to shave our men heads down to a black caesar in order to be presentable. Funny, THUNNY u were on point... As far as snoop being a looser. WOW,...compare what u have accomplished to him...We ahve taken on white ways so much that hte very essence of black is aggravating to a black person these days
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Thunny
Comment: Vic, that wouldn't happen to be you generalizing, would it? That white lady clutching her purse that much tighter at the sight of a young black man is the result of her %*$essing the "total package" as well, right? I'm no psychologist but it seems that you too have hate for Black people, which in turn means you really hate yourself. That's too bad.
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Renetta
Comment: To: streetdancer and Angel – I agree with you both – excellent points. If it became commonplace in songs for black men to be referred to as fag*ots or some other derogatory term they’d be up in arms. ESPECIALLY if black women were repeatedly spewing the lyrics. A society can be judged by the way it treats and respects it’s women. Like Harriet said a while ago – we have to hold up and take up for ourselves because the men won’t do it. They sit silent or tell us to get used to it. Never.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: Short and to the point...there's NO situation that justified the type of response by Snoop and his cohorts. It doesn't matter what they were denied entrance into...be it plane lounge or lavatory. It comes down to simple common sense and common sense dictates that thug mentality has no place in society.
There is no justification, period. We don't need to know the 'circumstances' when the subsequent response was that ridiculous. There's NEVER a good time to act like that and since he DOES have that much money, he SHOULD know better. But money will never buy common sense.
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Thunny
Comment: Renetta, how ironic that you called Snoop a "byatch" but in the very next sentence [of your first post] you order him to stop calling women "byatches". Interesting... I wonder do you take other forms of entertainment as seriously as you do music. Because the bottom line is that Snoop's music and raps are nothing more than entertainment. Just because Snoop says something does not necessarily make it so. But if the shoe fits...
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: And to My2Pennies...you're right. Ain't never been 30 first class seats on any one plane. And I seriously doubt Snoop and ALL his entourage travels first class. That in itself would be beyond stupid. Sounds like some of these fools didn't understand or care that you don't gain entrance into the duty free without a first class ticket. And probably they were acting as if since they were rolling with Snoop...they would beaugard. In 2006 after 9/11...they REALL should've known better. I smell a Mo'Kelly Report coming...
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Name:
Angel
Comment: Renetta - I agree. It sounds like a slave mentality to tell your women to just get used to being degraded. Just sad.
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Thunny
Comment: Morris, money will never buy respect either, and all these white people saw was a bunch of Black folks. No one is defending his actions. However no one should be excusing the airline for denying entry to Snoop and his folks, especially if they had the proper paperwork i.e. first class tickets. Someone said earlier that there is no commercial plane with first class seating for 30 people. But nowhere was it said thay they were all on the same flight. They were denied entry and before anything else gets looked into we should know why he was denied entry. Because I bet if Courtney Love strolled through Heathrow with a 29-person entourage and attempted to rightfully enter the first class lounge, she would not be denied entry. It's just like the Duke rape case -- if the victim was white and the accused was black, the accused would have ben in jail immediately. But since the accused were white, they weren't prosecuted as swiftly and vigorously. Everything changes when you bring a black person into the equation. I feel like Snoop's case was no different.
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Name:
oldsoul
Comment: I need more of the facts before I rush to a conclusion. At this point, there are too many holes to really know if Snoop was a fool, acted like one or just happened to get mixed-up w/a foolish entourage (sp). Mo'Kelly...lol...save the report that may be on the way, please, we've heard it all before. Btw, there is a positive story about a rapper headlining today - I noticed you didn't have too much to say about that, yet. Negative perspectives beget negativity something like a half-empty glass that's really half-full.
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Name:
Gemami
Comment: I like how a topics develope into other issues. Thunny, I have to admire you for holding your own. I'm on the fence with this. Since I don't care for Snoop and his whole persona I'm want to be believe he's at fault, but realistically there has to be a reason he was denied access. Was he racially profiled? Was it because everyone didn't have correct credentials? Does he and/or his people have a history of unruly behavior? There are too many questions to come to a quick assumption.
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Name:
TJthemilitant
Comment: Are you sure they weren't just filming a sequel to Soul Plane?...LMAO!
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streetdancer
Comment: Thunny: Go back and read your post where you mention Al Capone. He was Italian, I was just pointing out to you that Drivebys didn't start with Vito and em but with Jewish Mobster. I got my stats from London Crimes statistics being reported about the growing crime and gun violence problem growing amoung the youth, especially black youths in London and Manchester, England. Plus I have a number of black friends that live in London and who see it all the time. Now as for me hating black people, If you go back and read about the convesation I had with some of my Hebrew friends, you'll see where I made it very clear to them that I love my people just like they love theirs but my people are being destroyed by a subculture of fools that your people are making money off of and giving hi-fives to. Yes I know all Black people aren't bad but the ones that are glorifying this ignorant image of a Black man buying a $50,000 car while putting $10,000 rims on it and putting stupid azz grills in a mouth that has never been developed to speak correct english when you as a Black man don't even own a house or a decent life insurance policy to bury your dumb azz !
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: Thunny, you may be right...but at the end of the day, there is just some behavior and some responses that are unforgivable.
They truly may have been wrongly denied entrance, but all that goes out the window with such a ridiculous response. How many of you and I would have ended up arrested after being 'wrongly' denied entrance into an airport lounge or duty free shop?
Exactly. That's my point. The behavior in response is unacceptable and that's the point. The airport may have been wrong up until the point of Snoop and his crew doing their part to get arrested, because in the end, it actually just validated the airport's actions on some level.
Someone earlier mentioned Oprah...imagine if Oprah threw a fit like these fools did...Oprah is the one who ends up looking the fool, regardless of being right. But of course, Oprah has sense...she knew better. These fools...
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streetdancer
Comment: TJ: You are crazy, LMAO. That was toooo funny and you just had to go there.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: And if any entertainer buys his whole entourage first class international tickets...he's a fool and will end up like MC Hammer. That's a ridiculous %*$ertion that all 30 people from gopher to manager to homeboy were all flying first class internationally...much less on different flights. It's highly unlikely in an international setting that they were all on different flights, especially when performances or appearances are involved.
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MsFresno
Comment: THUNNY FOR PRESIDENT. He makes more since than the so called "writers" on this site.
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Name:
MsFresno
Comment: oops meant to type "sense" not since
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streetdancer
Comment: Hey Mo: Some people just don't get it and when stuff like this happens, out comes the race card. The Airlines did the right thing in trying to defuse this matter before it got on the plane, Snoop and em was acting a fool before they even got on the plane so why should other paying passengers have to put up with ignorant shyt like this ?
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Name:
thechocolate10
Comment: LOL at this post > this is a classic
lmao at the reference to the Nelly tip drill video
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Name:
McNasty
Comment: Morris O I look forward to your column.LOL
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Name:
mamadute
Comment: *** listening to Angela Winbush " Treat U Rite"*****
Snoop is a superstar, not his friendz.. i dunno y they tried to that
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Name:
sultry
Comment: Go on Snoop & Company. Just like Cynthia McKinney. Just do like the law says. This only makes it hard for the rest of us.
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FreeMswhite
Comment: black peoople are walkign around in a state of unconsciousness. I see it in every day life. In everything that we say. We are starting to be more like the white man then the white man. It is'nt enough that we wlak around here like zombies and worship the white man's bible and al lof his negative input " thou shal not do this and thou shal not do that" when our people were a loving people. We took care of each other. We did not have cowardly weapons meant for mass murder. When we prayed to god we prayed to the spirits above. There was never and negative connotation to what we believed. Here we are 200 years after they stole 10 million of us and starved us and beat us into submission- then they turned around and forced christianity on us because of the way we prayed proved to be too threatening to their "civilized" lifestyle. The holy bible at that time read " blacks are with out salvation" and then it was conveniently taken out in the past century. It is so SAD to me to hear us fall deeper and deeper into the unknown..
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Name:
beboyz
Comment: Those Panks said Hell to da Nawl LOL (I dont blame em)
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Name:
FreeMswhite
Comment: but ur moniker is beboyz
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Thunny
Comment: OK - back from lunch! Street -- you said the airlines were trying to defuse the matter - what matter? He was trying to get into the first class lounge. What was there to defuse? I swear so many people here are OK with black folks being comp,acent house Negroes and doing what "authority" (read: the white man) tells us to do with no questions asked. I can't believe all the people here siding with the white folks. Those who don't stand up for something will fall for anything. Snoop is clearly not one of these people. Anybody ever heard Nas's song Black Zombie? It describes quite a few mentalities displayed on this page today.
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Thunny
Comment: FreeMsWhite, I thought the same thing!!! This dude is fronting b-boy when he's nothing but another shiftless Negroe following the white man's word like a carrot is being dangled in front of his face...
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FreeMswhite
Comment: oooh thunny,. I just told them about that ,. read my paragraph,. ZOMBIES,. believe whatever they read and hear,. PROPAGANDA...... the white man has been mind fkn us for years and I wil get a little deeper with ya'll about how THEY are unconscious too it,. but ya'll aint ready,...
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Name:
FreeMswhite
Comment: ok,. he a bboy right with them crackers PART TIME
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Name:
Thunny
Comment: Preach FreeMswhite, preach!
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Name:
Thunny
Comment: From Nas' Black Zombie:
Yo, do you believe when they say we ain't sh*t, we can't grow?
All we are is dope dealers, and gangstas and hoes?
And you believe when they be tellin you lie, all on the media?
They make the world look crazy to keep you inside?
Why you listen when the teachers at school;
They know you a young single parent out strugglin, they think you a fool
Give your kids bad grades and put 'em in dumber classes
Killin shorty future, I wonder how do we last it?
Underground in they casket? Ancestors turnin
I'm learnin somethin every day, there is no Lazareth
Words like God is Greek or Latin
So if you study Egypt, you'll see the truth written by the masters!
My n*ggaz is chillin, gettin high, relaxin
Envisionin, ownin %*$!, yo it can happen
What do we own? Not enough land, not enough homes
Not enough banks, to give a brother a loan
What do we own? The skin on our backs, we run and we ask
for reperations, then they hit us with tax
And insurance if we live to be old, what about now?
So stop bein controlled, we black zombies!
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Name:
FreeMswhite
Comment: talk about it,.. now that is NEWS
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Name:
Angel
Comment: Thunny - How is breaking ish standing up for something (especially when it wasn't even at the lounge)?!? There are ways to get your point across without resorting to nonsense. We don't know all of the details, so before you make Snoop out to be a freedom fighter you might want to wait for more details. Who knows, maybe Snoop called the host a b*tch or a ho and she told them to step. Or maybe Don Juan demanded free refills for his chalis. LOL But seriously, I have dealt with discriminatory practices in a professional manner and have seen folks get fired (instead of me cutting the fool and getting myself fired). Regardless, unless you own an airline, you will never be able to cut the fool and then expect to get on your flight. Not gonna happen. So a choice has to be made--do you need to address the discriminatory practice by cutting the fool with some dude making minimum wage that's denying you access or should you be smart about it and elevate it to higher ups--you know, the folks worried about their bottomline if it gets out that they discriminate. Snoop and the crew could have easily bypass the First Class Lounge and contacted someone with authority. If ignored, he's a star. He has the media at his beck and call. How hard would it have been to put the airline on blast and encourage folks to boycott the airline. He could've done all of that and still made his flight. But instead, his azz is sitting in jail.
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FreeMswhite
Comment: Angel, no offense but you can tell you don;t get it. Because you are under teh impression that someone is glorifying Snoop. NO baby,no. It's what's WITHIN the situation. Be cognascenbt of what is going on. The media has made you very conscious as to who "snoop" is. You are aware of that it is obvious. As far as what he should have done. We don't know the logistics all we know is that he was denied access to the B-Lounge and he is a millionaire. You have to be conscious to see what is really going on. This country was built on lies . murder and deceit and it is still ran by that. Everyday someone dies in Iraq for oil and the country allowed it to happen over the debate of Gay Marriage. See Bush is a conscious individual to make it u have to play the game right and he plays it right every day. You dont have to be harvard to be conscious. Just aware,...Know one is excusing snoop from snapping on them. But Snoop deals with racism every day. You never know what occured leading up to that. Yes, you have individuals who are immune to being looked upon as less then- they are called African Americans..
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Thunny
Comment: Angel, you are comparing yourself with an international multimillioanire superstar who is used to being priveleged. Without knowing you initmately I am willing to bet there is no comparison.
Now, with that said, unless Snoop was under the influence of PCP or crack, I have to believe something happened that set him over the edge. No, I'm not justifying his actions of trashing a duty free shop, but Snoop is a highly recognizable face in this world. Everybody knows who he is, or at least has heard of him. Forget about contacting the media, who inevitabvly spin stories about rappers so that they're unfavorable. We all known they wouldn't have turned away Madonna and her 30 person entourage. Why Snoop? Because they had bandanas and baggy jeans? All I'm asking for is equal treatment and in 2006 it's not happening. So instead of being complacent and compliant with what the authority tells him to do, he reacted with outrage. And I can't blame him. He let his position be known in no uncertain terms. Snoop can buy 10 of those duty free store if he wants. The only way to make someone take notice of discontent is to demonstrate the discontent. Just like Rosa Parks had to be arrested to prove her point, so did Snoop. No, Snoop isn't breaking any new ground, but he's addressing a problem the way he sees fit. The bottom line is that there's a problem when an international superstar who is no doubt traveling first class uis denied access to the first class lounge. That is the problem first and foremost. Everything else is secondary to that.
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Angel
Comment: FreeMsWhite - Actually, I do get it. When did I say anyone was glorifying Snoop?!? You have no idea, like everyone else, why he was denied access to the First Class Lounge (with 30 others I might add), but let's just assume it was straight up because the host did not want his black azz in--how does his reaction to that treatment help or prove anything?!? Last time I checked, Snoop didn't have a monopoly on having to deal with racism. All African-Americans, including myself, have to, so I don't see why Snoop gets an "ignant pass". If anything, with his wealth and connections, he has better access to having someone "dealt with" than us, so I could understand the average everyday black man flipping out instead of him.
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bigheadbull2
Comment: Streetdancer... Very nicely done my friend.
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Thunny
Comment: Snoop's not getting a free pass. It's like when Chris Rock comments on beating your wife. He says "I don't condone it, but I understand." I can understand that it must set off a highly recognizable young black millionaire to be turned away from a luxury he's been used to for well over 10 years, knowing that if your skin color was not black you most likely would not be going through such a hassle. The reaction was over the top, but what's at the heart of the matter is what precipitated Snoop's reaction.
Think about it like this -- Snoop has performed all over the word for wel over a decade. Do you think this was the first time he's traveled with a large entourage overseas and tried to go in the first class lounge? Going a step further, do you think this is the first time Snoop and a large entourage have ever tried to gain access in a first class lounge in London Heathrow Airport? Without knowing for sure, I would be the farm that Snoop has not only been in London Heathrow with a gang of dudes before, but that they've been granted access to that very same lounge before. Now he's not allowed in? And you want him to run to the press or just accept the denial? No way!
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Name:
Angel
Comment: Thunny - Why are you in this fantasy world where everyone bows down to stars? There have been plenty of non-black stars who have been treated like everyday folk--just ask Russell Crowe, Courtney Love, Wynona Rider, Justin Timberlake, Robert Downey Jr., Johnny Depp and a host of others who have been denied access, thrown out of places and arrested for doing ish they thought they could do just because they're a celebrity. Not everybody is willing to kiss a star's azz--especially some disgruntle dude at the front door. If there was a valid reason for not allowing all 30 folk up in the lounge (and I'm not saying there was), I'm not just going to assume if it was Madonna she would have gotten in because maybe the host hates Madonna, too, so if her ish wasn't in order for access, she might have been throwing liquor bottles at folks, too. When I lived in LA, I saw instances of some celebrities getting special treatment while others got straight denied--it was based on the whims of the host in charge of letting folks in (they make minimum wage, but feel powerful because they control the door). Yes, probably 99 times out of a 100, the person at the door will be mesmerized and let Snoop and 500 of his friends in the door, but there are those rare instances when someone doesn't give a f*ck who you are.
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FreeMswhite
Comment: chile this is a lost cause,. whitey got a grip on us like a child with candy,... what is funny is that Angel keeps going back to rather we condone his actions... who dores,.. and who cares... what is important to me is how we react to it.....we fall right in line with the prosecution,. becuase of our training,....
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Name:
thechocolate10
Comment: angel its his pimp cup that he wants refills in
LOL at all the posts
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Name:
FreeMswhite
Comment: I was sitting here thinking about this mess and I have a theory why they were excluded from the lounge. I have been in the Delta Lounge plenty of times through my company. And they are so ritzy in there unitl it makes no sense. You have some people that post up in there and the black people that do go in there are pretty much white themselves. we strive to be equal but we will never be equal... those 30 guys "his entourage' were not welcome because they more then likely felt like they were not worthy and that they were there just because of snoop. when I have seen plent of white families in there cutting a fool and cursing but in a "white" way that is non threatening...see the blackman is a BIG threat,.. Biologically,.sociall, economically,.. U cant erase black no matter what ya mix it with.. blacks have a reservoir at about 1/2 as a white man because wea re fundamentally different,.. uh huh which make sus succeptable to more diseases then they are,. they have been testing the way we operate for years because of the melanin in our skin. we are dominant.. have u ever thought about why white people dont have rhythm and we do.. thats because we are in tune with the planet,. every vibrations,. we move effortlessly because we are supposed to be here.. umm I will say no more....
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Name:
cedent
Comment: People - READ - check your sources...EUR is not the only source...dang. Fact: Some of the individuals did indeed have first class tickets, but some had economy class tickets. I'll do a simple calculation for you to understand...ECONOMY TICKET = NO FIRST CLASS LOUNGE. How this turned into a damn discussion insulting black women is beyond me. Respect your women, period.
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Name:
Thunny
Comment: I fux witcha Mswhite! I'm out for the day. In Snoop's words, "chuuuch!"
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Name:
Thunny
Comment: Cedent, that's not what the cnn.com article said...
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Name:
MorrisOKelly
Comment: Thunny...
There's nothing short of bottles and violence FIRST being exhibited at Snoop should he and his people responded that way...PERIOD.
I don't understand why you don't see that. Nobody is condoning the airlines and there is ALWAYS a way to handle a situation. And believe you me, THAT was not the way to do it. To have all that money and stardom supposedly but can't 'use' it to handle a situation beyond buffoonery is laughable. He's not to be celebrated, even it was racial in nature. A person with common sense knows that getting arrested for fighting with airport security and having the entourage throw bottles and the like does nothing for your career or battling racism. So if it does neither, it probably isn't a good idea. The behavior was unlawful and the police responded accordingly. Because since he was traveling 30 deep, we can assume 3 people in the gift shop didn't physically confront all of them or put hands on them. Snoop is wrong, period. That's NEVER the correct response.
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Name:
cedent
Comment: Thunny - Damn (shaking my head) - I can't believe you are so supportive these guys without knowing all the facts...its just the white man huh? Um, no. You know, I was on a plane in the early ninties with Tupac and HIS entourage...embarrasing, loud, obnoxious...daring anyone to say anything to them...their behavior was unacceptable....and it started on the way TO the plane. We, the other passengers, were basically held captive by this mess for 4 hours...I say, if a group has shown their azz before getting on the plane, don't let them on. On another note but not really, if you have VH1 there is a show called Airplane, it shows people being denied boarding ALL the time, arrests and everything...take a look at the show.
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Name:
FreeMswhite
Comment: CEDENT< I have seen that show. I like it.... It's raw...but i still think the majority of the readers here are misconstruing what we mean.. know one is condoning snoop- but he is human. It is his celebrity staus that makes it a debate.. my issue is how we band wagon that everything is not racial m,,when it is.. Goodnite people.it's been real,...my lil girl has started calling which means she is ready.. .
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dodgy
Comment: The story is this: Snoop and three others had first class tickets, and the rest of his posse had bog standard economy tickets. Of course, they all wanted first class.
The thing with the British though, when it comes to abuse they don't play. The people tend to go cold and still - and then call the police.
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Name:
cedent
Comment: Thunny - Here's one on MSNBC a quote from the a British Airways spokesman http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12508342/
***The rapper and his party were denied entry into the lounge because some of the entourage was flying first class, while other members of the party were flying economy class, said Richard Goodfellow, a spokesman for British Airways, which runs the lounge.***
FreeMsWhite - oh believe me I know there are many racial incidents on a daily basis, especially while traveling ESPECIALLY while traveling. But thats what makes this even worse, he's acting like a total fool, expecting EVERYONE to get in the lounge but they have Economy tickets. I take exception to people crying racism when they were in the wrong...and these guys were in the wrong this time...at least as it appears right this minute right now ;-)
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Name:
bigboyhighflyer
Comment: Snoop was wrong therefore they should be dealt with. If he and three others we're the only ones with first class tickets then the others cannot come in. It is what it is.This only makes the cops gear up for artist coming over from america. The next time it will be a lot of americans hurt.Remember, the British love drama. Don't get it twisted.
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