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ChocolateBrownGa1
Comment: Clear Channel paid Star $5 million a year for his show guaranteed. He still gets his 5 mill even though he was fired.
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Brandon
Comment: Actually "ChocolateBrownGa1", Star doesn't collect the check. Radio contracts are guaranteed, provided you don't violate the terms of the deal -- Star violated the terms of the morality cause when he was arrested and charged. His actions voided the deal, so besides paying him for the time he has worked since his last pay period, and any possible ratings bonuses, his checks are going to stop. What's worse, the entire morning team is out of a job because of him, and they did nothing wrong. By the way, Tigger is awful on the radio. His previous syndicated show was a lot of hype, but never really produced any good ratings for the stations that ran it.
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Brandon
Comment: oops, typo.... I meant, "morality clause"...
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KayKay
Comment: $5 Million for that trash ??!! And he will STILL get paid ? PLEASE tell me you're kidding ! Considering the trash-talk that was featured on that show, i'm sure there is no morals clause in the contract the station could use to try to get out of paying him whatever is remaining on his contract. Unfortunately, he will probably not do any jail time. Too bad..you know there wouldn't have been a dirty pair of drawers on the tier if they did lock him down.
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KayKay
Comment: K, Brandon..you chimed in while i was still writing, lol. So you think there was a morals clause in the contract? Considering the 'shock-jock' theme, doesn't it seem hypocritical of the station to even have that kind of a clause ? Then again, i guess the station would have something in writing to cover their azzes just in case one or both of them went overboard..
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ChocolateBrownGa1
Comment: K. Brandon, Clear Channel knew exactly what they were getting. What kind of morals clause could they have? They are 'Shock-jocks'. They have history doing this stuff. You think he wouldn't have a contract that guaranteed his money. Star is crazy, but not dumb. Star got his money.
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Brandon
Comment: I work for a CC station, I can assure you, a morals clause is definitely part of the contract. it protects the station if you get caught with drugs, or if you're accused of vehicular homocide while intoxicated, or you get caught molesting a child or soliciting sex, or any other way degrade or diminish the reputation of the radio station, or its parent company. No one signs a deal that says, "even if you mess up, we'll still pay you." Even athletes don't have deals that good. Your contract is guaranteed if they decide to replace you, for other reason (i.e., ratings).
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Grace
Comment: to: Brandon} I thought he did a good job in Detroit. I also enjoyed MC Serch.
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KayKay
Comment: Chocolate, Star is both crazy AND dumb. I hope he doesn't get another dime from ClearChannel, and i hope he never gets another job in the field. Of course he will, but i can still hope. It makes you wonder if he's on hard drugs like Rush Limbaugh. I don't understand why people still get so upset with Rush and his ignorance. He's an active Oxy addict; nothing he says is valid.
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lovinlife
Comment: At the risk of sounding politically incorrect, I don't care about his comments about the wife. They were rude, inappropriate, and insulting. However, that filthy shat he said about that little girl was criminal and I hope he gets prosecuted for it and does time. I find it hard to believe that a non-pedophile would make those kind of remarks about a child. I think he ran his mouth and probably saved a bunch of kids from molestation.
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McNasty
Comment: The morals clause has more to do with FCC regulations on radio stations and there is one - dj star went too far for even cable radio. His threats were terroristic in nature and don't let me find out that the dept of homeland security can get a piece of his azz too! What he said was worse than Mike Tyson threatening to eat somebody's kid cause we knew the words were just wierd hype for a fight. This wasn't and he's gonna pay for every syllable spoken. There is indeed a responsibility that goes along with freedom of speech!
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thatbklyngirl
Comment: no company is going to pay anyone that kind of money and not cover their tail. He defintely, inspite of CC knowing what they are getting has a morality clause. Just like Kobe was %*$ on endorsements when his issues first popped up. Its up to company to decide whether they will enforce the clause or not, but best beleive they are protecting their investment by having them sign it.
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bigheadbull2
Comment: Brandon I was a bm/gm for a radio station here in DC and you are right on buddy. In any event it would not matter what he signed the FCC is the overiding authority. The money he may have recieved will now to the pay fines levied by the FCC cause I assure you there will be fines.
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gogoemma
Comment: Star will get his 5 million, because the way he did his contract no matter what he says or what he does in the contrat he would still get his money. But there may be a lawsuit to come, if no one file a lawsuit then he will get the money, they cannot stop that at all.
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allreal1
Comment: I loved star and his whole team, I do agree that what he said was wrong, but I sure he didn't mean it. ClearChannel better fiind something better than Tigger and Egypt! I caught a glimpse of them this morning and quickly turned to NPR.I need real talk in the morning not fluff!
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bigheadbull2
Comment: He most indeed will not be getting 5 mill stay tuned people.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >allreal - you're sure he didn't mean it? How do you know? Regular, normal people don't even THINK the filth he said. I felt like I got dirty and needed a shower after reading the transcript last week. Do you know all that he said - explicit, nasty, perverted stuff with a FOUR-YEAR OLD CHILD? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't realize all that he said about a child that is for all intents and purposes just a tad older than a TODDLER. Come on now...
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Thunny
Comment: OK. I'm definitely against what was said, and having had a while to think this through, I don't think he should have been arrested. Fired, cited, fined, temporarily restrained, but not arrested. The US justice system is in shambles. It makes no sense how you can have someone arrested for making negative and disparaging comments. I just don't see how someone can honestly feel threatened by what a shock jock says on a radio show that is designed to raise eyebrows. Everything is tongue-in-cheek. DJ's employed in this role are hired to talk recklessy and irresponsibly. Now, if you're a sensible and rational DA, what real grounds are you having this man arrested on? Yes, I know it "technically" broke the law, but these silly laws need amending. It is these silly laws that keep Black folks in jail for no reason. Especially those who can't afford to pay bail. He got arrested for those charges, but I see them being reduced significantly. Brafman is his lawyer and that dude represents the illest of criminals. This case will be a piece of cake for him. Because if you think about it rationally, there was no real cause to be concerned, in my estimation. Star is a high profile member of the community - are we to believe that he was really going to pay someone money so that he could hunt down this 4 year old girl and pee on her and put mayo in her azz crack so that he could take a bite out of it? Sounds ridiculous huh?
And Envy better reign in his wife because it now looks like Envy snitched on Star and had Star arrested, and we all know about the "stop snitching" movement. Anyone who goes to the cops is immediately a snitch regardless of the situation, and if Envy is supposed to be so "street" and "hood," he wouldn't have let his wife go to the local politician and cops, because that is a poor reflection of his street cred. I don't buy into that but the people who listen to these radio stations do. Oh well, it will be interesting to see how this unfolds. Because we already know Star will be fine and just have more and more hate to share with the world when he gets another radio gig.
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Mahoganii
Comment: I don't think he meant it. I listed to the show in it's ENTIRETY. I'm a parent as well and I thought he crossed the line when he went there with the babies. But all it was, was a taunt towards Envy. He's a lot of things - but I seriously doubt that pedophile is one of them.
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ladybyrd
Comment: Brandon> You are correct! He doesn't get the money if he breaks the agreement, which he did.
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CianaDoll
Comment: McNasty, I'm going to assume you weren't listening to the show that morning or the other mornings this squabble between Star and Miss Jones had been going on. Just like the Mike Tyson comment, Star's comments WERE intended to "pick a fight." He was trying to get the best of DJ Envy and went way overboard. As I've said in previous posts, Star and DJ Envy/Miss Jones were in the middle of a back-n-forth. Like Mahoganni, I too listened to that show in its entirety AND thought he took it way too far. Not just that, I was able to listen to some of DJ Envy's comments, while Star's show was on commercial. As negative and ridiculous as his comments were, he didn't intend to do anymore than entice DJ Envy to meet him outside to prove he wasn't the punk DJ Envy was heard on air calling him. And, I agree with everything Thunny has stated.
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Priceless
Comment: I would never defend this fool but cases like this are going to constantly test the 1st amendment rights ... as distasteful as something is can you be thrown into jail for it? I know you can be fired for it but I'm not sure about jailing someone
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CianaDoll
Comment: allreal1, you are too funny! Egypt and Tigger bored the heck out of me. LOL!
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Stephanie
Comment: When I saw him on the cover of the NY Daily News when they were hauling him away in handcuffs, he had this stupid smirk on his face like it was no big deal but you could clearly see underneath that stupid grin, he's kicking himself in the azz because he lost out on a lot of chips and he knows no one will pay him that much at least not right now and perhaps never and all because he thought he was so bad he probably thought this would brush over, but this is what stupidity gets you...you know when he's alone at night and that arrogance is set aside and he's saying to himself, "fuuuuck, what did I do"!!!! One thing about DJ Envy is still doing his thing and now he no longer has to worry about Star being a rival.
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CianaDoll
Comment: It's no doubt about that! Miss Jones and DJ Envy have won. They've been drinking champagne and celebrating since Thursday. When entertainers call up, she's asked them to visit and bring a bottle to celebrate with her. She's been singing all kinds of farewell songs too.
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Thunny
Comment: Steph, Envy's got a lot more to worry about than Star. Envy's a snitch in the eyes of the streets! And for him to co-sign going to the cops indicates that Envy was scared of a 42 year old man, further makign Envy look very weak. Envy released an album a couple of years back to very little fanfare, and his mixtapes he released as DJ Clue's protege didn't go over very well either. After this madness does he really think anybody of any real consequence in the Hiphop industry is going to work with him? All he has is this little DJ gig, and we know he's not getting money like Star was. As far as I'm concerned, Envy just shot himself in the foot while Star will emerge as the eventual victor because he will get another shock jock gig somewhere. Envy is replaceable, Star isn't.
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CianaDoll
Comment: Thunny, I don't think it was a matter of Envy fearing Star. Altough, in this "snitched" obsessed culture Envy works in, it may hurt his career how things developed. You are right about that. But, I think it had a lot more do with Miss Jones than most are considering. It helped their jobs A LOT to have him fired, then have him arrested. DJ Envy allowing his wife out there alone, on numerous occasions, symbolized something too. Years back, DJ Envy had an ongoing battle between himself/DJ Clue and Kay Slay. In my opinion, if I had my choice on who to fear, it would definitely be Kay Slay over Star. And, during that situation, Envy didn't back down. He tried hard to hold on to his street cred then. At the same time, he wasn't on air making smart comments about Kay being a punk" either, which he was doing toward Star. Star played into their hands by taunting Envy with obscene and irreponsible threats, and they milked it.
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Southernbelle
Comment: I hope Star has learned a valuable lesson.
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McNasty
Comment: CianaDoll no I didn't listen to the show, don't live in the area and wouldn't be listening to it anyway! Fact is these are djs we are talking about NOT HEAVYWEIGHT FIGHTERS so it matters a damn what dj starr was trying to do - he's not in a forum for that purpose and that's why his azz bought all kinds of trouble! No clarification was necessary.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ....Tigger just sounds like a character from the hundred acres woods...I keep hearing Winnie the pooh and piglet and that sad sack Eyeore joining the crew and turning this into a childs format...Will Barney do the news?.....Elmo the weather?....
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CianaDoll
Comment: Okay, McNasty! Sorry! LOL! Since this is a comment forum, I just thought I'd help you understand everything that was going on before you yell "off with his head!" LOL! As none of the accuseds actions are appropriate EVER, forgive me for not understanding why boxing is an appropriate forum for cannibalism.
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Stephanie
Comment: Thun, I hear you but DJ Envy isn't out of $5 Mil. I just can't see another radio station giving him that kind of cheese but hell if they did it for Howard Stern, it remains to be seen. I know I'd be kicking myself in the azz on that one.
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JamerDelta
Comment: I think that everyone here is missing a major point. What the hel l are they really fighting over??? They're not OWNING anything. They all simply just WORK for a radio station which could at anytime fire them anyway. What's so important that you have to sell your soul so that the next black person can lose some ratings--when do we hear that white stations' DJs are beefing. C'mon--usually there are only 1 or 2 radio stations with the same format for hip/hop r&b in each market--why can't they co-exist--why is it so important to create this rivalry agains each other. To me, its all crabs in the barrell b.s. especially since they are fighting over a J.O.B. not ownership--its all so stupid. When will people get a clue?
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CianaDoll
Comment: JamerDelta, you are absolutely 100% correct.
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Thunny
Comment: Steph, Envy wasn't making millions annually so I think him losing his job would hurt more than Star because 1) Star ideally has enough dough in the bank to live unemployed for at least a year, and 2) Star has proven that he is a commodity to a radio station and that he will be hired by one of the many stations that in the future will be competing for his talent. I just don't see Envy being heavily recruited by radio stations if he were to get fired. If the Greaseman in DC was hired after making racist remarks in which he wished death on prominent Black folks in the name of gaining more holidays, then Star will also be hired again, most likely making alot of money again. It's only a matter of time. To me, regardless if Star has to do like 100 hours of community service, he still comes out on top.
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JamerDelta
Comment: Thanks CianaDoll, it just never ceases to amaze me. I live in Philadelphia and the same isht happens here. We have 2 radio stations with this format and they are constantly putting each other down and inciting the listeners to do the same and talking about the other EMPLOYEES like its a personal affront to them that someone WORKS at another station. I just don't get it. I would understand it a little more if they had any Equity in the damn station, but they don't. Its ridiculous. That's why I could never understand gang members who fight to defend a block that they don't own. Why does everything have to be adversarial? I listen to both stations and have no loyalty whatsoever to any of them because they don't help me make any money. Its a JOB people and jobs are expendable no matter what the contract so why not support the other man for having a job. Its a damn shame because the people they are influencing are young minds who don't know any better.
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CianaDoll
Comment: JamerDelta, I can go on for days about the radio station battles in NYC. Aside from Hot 97 a.k.a. "Shot" 97 being known for the continuous violence between artists, which occur right outside their doors, you have Funkmaster Flex (celebrity DJ who spins on Hot 97) accused of punching Steph Luva, a former Hot 97 female DJ, in the face a couple years ago - right in front of the station. Allegedly, the reason behind that was because she was on the rival station, Power 105, talking about Flex. Now, DJ Clue, who has been a Hot 97 DJ forever, is moving to Power 105. I KNOW this will cause some kind of riff between he and his former colleagues. I think the analogy between this and gang members fighthing over turf they don't own is perfect!
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CianaDoll
Comment: I wonder if those in the South, Midwest, and West have these problems with their radio personalities. Unfortunately, if you look at the state of Hip-Hop in and around NYC you can easily compare the radio jocks to the artists. Everyone is battling... over nothing!
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Angel
Comment: Thunny - How do you know DJ Envy snitched? Maybe wifey doesn't give a dayum about her street cred or Envy's. I wouldn't either if some sick bastid made those comments about me and my child like Star did. Does the street code state that if your wife snitches, you are deemed a snitch by association? LOL
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Thunny
Comment: Angel, I don't think Envy "snitched" at all, nor do I subscribe to that nonsense. I don't like the cops but there are certain times you just have to go to them. I'm not completely convinced this was one of those times, but from what I understand Envy's wife was the one to initiate contact with the Queens councilman, who in turn pressed the DA's office to bring forth charges. If anybody should be labeled a snitch, I guess it would be her. However, with the narrow-sightedness of the faithful NYC radio listeners, all they know is Star dissed Envy and someone from Envy's side wentr to the feds. So yes, I believe Envy is a "snitch by association," as crazy as that sounds!! Funny [and sad] stuff, huh?
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azure15
Comment: Thunny, you're part of the PROBLEM in the black community. You're tryin' to use the dumb cliche of "snitching" to gloss over the ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE evil of what Star said about the child. Figures.
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CianaDoll
Comment: Wow! I thought Thunny was giving his perception of how the young, unguided children of hip-hop may take the situation. I didn't for once figure these to be Thunny's personal feelings on the situation. At least, that's the disclaimer he's given in each of his comments.
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lucky
Comment: Amen JamerDelta and CianaDoll! You are so on point with your comments! Plus in addition to that, these folks usually end up switching jobs back and forth between the stations in the market anyway, so most of the time the very stations and personalities they're doggin are the ones they'll be working for and with eventually anyway, so all this nonsense is just that, NONSENSE!
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xavixavi
Comment: a) Star will not see 1 day in jail. If he does I'll eat my big toe.
b) Star will be Hired again, making more money. It will take time. He can afford it.
C)I DON"T give a DARN. Don't like listening to him, but sometimes he sounds a little more intelligent. When he's not trying to win during sweeps.
D) SWEEEPS, SWEEPS, SWEEPS!!! This was ALL a rant that got out of hand to get ratings. Isn't that sad.
E) They don't own the radio stations!! GOOOD POINT.
F)Stop listening to the morning shows that have this crap, and you won't hear it anymore!!!
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Angel
Comment: Thunny - Don't worry. I understand that you are just giving your opinion on what these fools are thinking when it comes to the "no snitching" bs. I wonder if Star will end up on the sex offenders list if the charges stick?
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Thunny
Comment: Azure, I see you have trouble reading, so I strongly urge you to review what I wrote. Thanks in adance!
Angel, I don't think he'll end up on that list because he's only been charged with a misdemeanor. You have to think that if the DA's office was directly involved along with local politicians and he was only charged with a misedemanor, and Star has tretained the services of Brafman, these charges will eventually be dismissed. Brafman just doesn't lose cases, and these charges are flimsy at best.
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ladybyrd
Comment: Thunny > "Stop snitching" ...and "In the Eye's of the Street". It's statments like that, that is ruinning the Rap Game. And for the record, DJ Envy didn't snitch, The idiot said on the radio that he was carrying a 9mm!" And he was inciting bodily harm by telling his listerns that he would pay them for telling him where the b%$#^ went to school. Who's knows what those crack pot listeners would do to get the $500.00 he offered. He deserves EVERYTHING and I MEAN EVERYTHING HE GETS!!!! Find a new cause...
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musbdherbs
Comment: Jamer..you hit it on the head. These fools don't own ANYTHING. I don't know what street cred Envy loses because of this..hold up, let me take that back. I don't know of any major market other than NYC where there's so much violence and disrespect involved w/competiting DJ's. IMO, that's part of the problem. So, maybe this street cred (in this case) doesn't have an attentive ear outside of NYC. What's sad is that we continue to allow ourselves to be puns in the game. It's not just the laws (they've been jacked up as long as they've been on book) BUT, it's our ignorance and willingness to destroy each other in the name of "entertainment" and that self-prophesying, all-mighty-dollar. Star represents the most ignorant of numbers because he was foolish enuff to take it "too" far. He was giving a loaded gun and I bet that azz is kicking himself hard. He was given free reign to do what he does best and as soon as he stepped 'cross the line..he found himself not able to go back. This is the end result. As far as Envy, I think it's a great PR move on because although he certainly seemed to contribute to this atmosphere...his wife became the victim. Hell, she was even on O'Reilly but her "concern" was certainly questionable..but it worked. Hopefully, he'll never work again if for not other reason than to serve as an example. Janet learned and I bet u'll never see another tittygate again. EVER
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foxxnsocks
Comment: If I was Envy's wife and if Star had made the comments about my child, I would have put the Cynthia McKinney all up in his black azz!
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Thunny
Comment: For the record, the rap game was ruined long before the "stop snitching" phenomenon came into play.
As far as Envy goes, Star's supporters will call Envy a snitch because regardless of how, Star got hemmed up by the feds after Envy's wife went to the authorities, and all Star's fans want is his return to radio. That's it. They don't care about some bogus threat. Personally, I don't believe having Star arrested was the answer. What he did was foul but he's not going to be found guilty of anything, paviong the way for another radio station to hire him to improve their ratings. And once he gets that job please believe he will boost that station's ratings big time.
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ladybyrd
Comment: musbdherbs > I agree with you regarding crime in the NYC & us being puns. <this is sick>
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TesticAl
Comment: STOP SNITCHIN' STOP LYIN'!
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McNasty
Comment: Those of us in the East don't have these kinds of problems with djs it's just New York - crabs in a barrel mentality. We will fight for a dj to stay on the air and protest syndication but we've not yet been put in a position to referee a battle between djs where words so dangerous are spoken that he gets arrested!
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blackdiamondleo
Comment: QUEENIEBUNZ: I agree with you. I also felt a slimy feeling come over me when THUNNY posted the transcript. Embarrassing, disgustingly filthy! Like someone said, all human dogs (apologies to the 4 legged) are not pedophiles. There was no reason at all for him to involve Envy's child or wife. That's a punk's move!!!
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CianaDoll
Comment: I believed I specified "in and around NYC." Not to mention, someone else said they've experienced similar tiffs between their local radio DJs in the Philly area. It won't be necessary to get into a discussion about geography. The point is, some radio DJs (IN THE NORTHEAST) have taken to battling and expressing themselves just as recklessly on the radio as the rappers have been doing through their music.
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Brandon
Comment: Star's comments were definitely careless, but I don't think he truly intended to hurt Envy's daughter. The problem is, and those of us in radio know, when you work in a major market (city), listeners sometimes take things that we say "to heart". meaning, Star didn't have to do anything to the little girl, some idiotic listener could take his comments "to heart", and go do something to the girl. Not everyone is logical, and those who make irrational decisions often do harm in the name of someone else. That's the biggest danger of all.
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SilentJay
Comment: I lived here in the DC area for about 15 years or so and I'v never heard of
DC DJ's having beef on the radio with each other. Maybe somebody out there knows of one and I just don't remember it but I doubt that there was. Star just crossed the line plain and simple. Whatever his original intentions were lost when He lost control of his senses and allowed the hype demon to get in his ear and convince him to spit out some really ill shyt on the mic. He got caught up in the excitement of hearing his voice as dropped those verbs and let them float out onto the airwaves for alot of people to hear. Now he isn't the first to do this but in the Post Janet Jackson Tity-Gate world we live in, you just can't say whatever pops in your head and give away with it, this seems especially true if your black and in the media. What he said was stupid on the mic or in private and He deserves what ever he has coming to him. And for the record CianaDoll I think the difference between Star and Tyson is that fact Tyson and all Atheletes for that matter half to face thier opponent in a arena. I've heard atheletes make threatining statements(none which were related what might be a real case of possible sexual abuse of a child by a popular R&B star) towards thier opponents families and they all caught the beatdown of thier lives in the ring or on the court and in the field.If Tyson had said something like "I'm gonna kill your wife like OJ killed Nicole", I'm more than certain he would have caught he!! for saying it. I'm not condoning the extreme trash talk but at least u know with althelets there will be physical consequence for making such statments. Tyson took it too far and we saw How he ended up. Somehow something tells me Star will find another DJ gig somewhere(like it or not).
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Name:
ladybyrd
Comment: As for me... I'm speaking of the stop snitching MENTALITY! Not some damn words you can put on a shirt!
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Name:
ladybyrd
Comment: McNasty > I agree with your last statment.
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ladybyrd
Comment: Brandon> How do you know that he wasn't intending to hurt anyone?? He mentioned that he had a 9mm on the air. Who does that??? Then he's willing to pay someone $500.00 for addresses! When things are heated sometimes you don't think clearly, which this is EVIDENT! I think the Proof situation escaladed out of control also. We need to make a stand and start somewhere! This is a message to the NEXT FOOL who feels that he can use the AIRWAVES for some bullsh*%!!!
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kbig
Comment: I'm with McNasty on this: why is anyone worried about what this hot-dog necked DJ is going through? You know what I'm sayin'? Yes, Envy's wife is an adult but you DO NOT appeal to the masses, however much it's a publicity stunt, appealing for the info on a pre-schooler. Honestly. Everybody listening to the radio ain't healthy--people hear shyt from radios and all it takes is one dumb-azz. You don't do that to a kid and call 'em out with racial shyt and sexual sickness. You better believe if he'd said this about Kimora's babies, he'd have gone to jail, too. Why anyone is defending this stupid piece o' shyt is beyond me. I bet he was in isolation during his short visit in the pen. No convicts would play that stuff-- puttin' out mess about a little girl on the radio. This whole story is fuccckin' insanity. Get a mothafuccin' life. We tryin' to hear music, not some beefs from a cokehead.
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MrsPhoenix
Comment: What that man said can only come from a person of the SICKEST degree...to insult another man's wife in that manner was totally unacceptable no matter what her ethnicity is (even a WHITE woman doesn't deserve that!). But what the man said about the CHILD in addition to the wife earns him the right to get the Rodney King 2007 Upgrade Beating!
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