Comment: Alright, DJ...tell us how you really feel. :-) Definitely an article that makes you think and provides for a good basis of discussion.
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Samo_samo
Comment: Isn't the expression spelled "feminazi" not "feminatzi"? Reference:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=feminaz i
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McNasty
Comment: I can't take issue with anything Darryl has said as I know it to be true. I do think however, that women who say they don't need a man, well that's just a defense for why they don't have one and it keeps them from examining self. Women need men just like men need women so I'm not sure what the fuss is really about because if we are equipped with the right tools and present them in the most positive light there should be nothing men and women can't discuss rationally/logically. When you think of the fact that our kids get down with each other without ever knowing the other person as intimately as the act that they engage in it is then that we will begin to realize that the nonsense we continue to carry on has so affected them that they don't want to know each other. Of course that doesn't help them deal with the emotions that are engaged as they engage sexually either. No wonder we have no respect for each other, we don't really know each other but we've got groups with names like feminazi!
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dodgy
Comment: i hear you boy, I hear you. I never identified with the feminazis for the same reason that the guy puts across.
Too many of these feminists belive in unequality - in the sense of wanting to have their cake and eat it too.
Equal rights should mean equal fights, and feminazis just don't play fair.
I understand the man's beef. Honestly.
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Samo_samo
Comment: I think that the group of women described in this article are a very, very small minority. I think the problem is that they are a vocal minority and that makes it seem like their numbers are larger.
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MER82
Comment: I think my girl Tiamba from the feedback section put this miserable one in the correct perspective...nuff said.
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DCGG
Comment: Samo-Samo I totally agree...they are a small minority yet very vocal...they usually consist of white woman, Lesbians with higher incomes and resouces (think Rosie O'Donnell) to make their voices heard...
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realuvbaby
Comment: Darryl good men are hard to find because they are babied beyond belief, making them irresponsible. Good men are hard to find because they want the pay, but don't want to go to school or to work to get it. Good men are hard to find because they rather hang with the fellas/on the street/in the club, than being with their families. Good men are hard to find because some men are so darned hard headed, they end up on drugs and in prisons. Good men are hard to find because their egos are bigger than anything they have. Good men are hard to find because of you cannot parent while absent -- physically or emotionally. Good men are hard to find because wounded people make wounded children. Good men are hard to find because they refuse to respect themselves by not listening to their parents, teachers, preachers, spouses, etc. Don't blame the femnists. Black men like Darryl oughta quit bitchin and pass some of the information he has to those brothers on the corner, etc. He should be preaching to the brothers, and leave the femnists alone.
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DarrylJames
Comment: Realuvbaby, good men are hardest to find for ignorant women such as yourself. We find you and turn away quickly. You lay out all that ignorance hatred, bitchin and moaning and then tell me to stop bitchin. WTF? Thanks for proving my point, though. From your stunted perspective, it’s all about those sorry old Black men. Really though, if we are babied beyond belief and also absent from the parenting process, who is babying us? We can’t be simultaneously absent yet still present to screw things up.
It’s a shame that all the men in your world are so horrible, but with your attitude, one doesn’t have to use too many brain cells to figure out why you draw only crap. You don’t find what you want, you find what you ARE.
Reading is fundamental—some of what you said was addressed in the piece, but since you only want to hate on men, you can’t possibly see it.
I’d like you to focus on this one passage: "Quite frankly, the reaction of radical feminists to my writing is always negative, bitchy attacks overwrought with emotion and bullshi t."
If I thought you had at least two active brain cells, I’d ask you to focus on this passage: "I’d like it if at least one radical feminist could approach me--or any other strong man who loves women—with reason, research and a cool head. Nothing else will move anything."
Don’t worry about who I’m preaching to, because I’m not for you, with you and thank God, I’m not around you.
Wretches like you and that cranky heifer MER82 are the problem. Really, though.
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bigheadbull2
Comment: LOL Somone's b.i.t.c.h lamps are lit today. Too much
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MER82
Comment: Darryl-you really disappoint me. How could someone like you-who professes to love women on the one hand, write articles expressing your moving journey through spirituality on the other hand, and then say some of the most hateful, ignorant, immature, bullshyt this side of the Mississippi out of your mouth? You are a classic case of someone who talks the talk but doesn't walk it. In other words, you are full of shyt. If you were half of the spiritual man you claim to be-you would not only recognize the feminine principle of God and all that is holy, but you would live and breathe it. Instead, you attack some small group of women who made you feel bad, which does not justify the blatant disdain and foolishness you spew about something you obviously do not know enough about. YOU NEED TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH pahtna! Put your pen where that big-fat-ignorant diatribe is! This nigghat got the nerve to be "bridging the Black gender gap" My azz you are. Quit being ignorant on this topic and talk about some real things for a change.
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MrsPhoenix
Comment: What is so "hateful" about DJ (or ANYONE) bustin' up the lies that many of us as Sistas have subscribed to? What is so "hateful" about DJ (or ANYONE) asking us Sistas to own up to our culpability regarding negative Black male/female relationships?
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realuvbaby
Comment: If you saw me you'd see I was none of the above. I must have stepped on your toes. Perhaps you were abused by women. Didn't get enough hugs, etc. I stand by each and every word I say, my experiences. You don't have to agree with what I say. The condition of the black male in this country supports my argument. I think you'd do all brothers a service by sharing what you know, how you got where you got, etc. to bring them up. The only thing blame does is keep the focus of what is really happening and explain your reasons for being unhappy and frustrated, which you clearly are. You are an %*$!(@! in the highest sense of the word. I don't care what you call me. You don't know me. I know sorry azz men exists and sorry azz men are the majority and it's their own fault. Why aren't more brothers taking your course in life, huh? You mad, you mad, you mad because I am right. I'm too real for your %*$, and trust me, you couldn't get none of this!!! %*$!(@!!! Ouch, ouch!! stepped on your toe, did I? All your hate against women ain't gonna help men worth a damn You are probably digging your own grave, but I still say, IF YOU WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, YOU GOTTA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I may be ignorant but I pay my own bills, got an education, am raising my children, got the respect of men, REAL MEN. What you can only hope to be. As I said, if everyone is passing you by, whose fault is it? You are Exhibit A as to why I choose to live alone. It takes two, Darryl, baby. Two whole healthy people to make a healthy relationship. If men don't choose to be healthy, women will continue to surpass you. You may succeed in the name calling and your hate of femnists, but it won't succeed in changing the status of black men not one bit. You are among the wounded. Someone call 911 for this azzwipe.
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realuvbaby
Comment: When you are grown, you are free to make other choices, no matter how you were raised. Don't get mad because many men don't step up to the plate. Who and where's your daddy????????
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realuvbaby
Comment: One more thing, there's nothing stunted about me except my taste in jouirnalism and choosing to read your crap. I'm 5 feet 7, and there's nothing stunted about me. Here have a hug, Darryl. Why can't you just admit that some men, not all men, just don't make the cut for various reasons and stop trying to act like all y'all innocent? If you don't know you have a problem, how in the hell do you expect to correct it? By Darryl . . . I've given you enough of my time. Perhaps you'll find someone who will fall for your bs, but not this one. You might some, but you just lost one! I wish you well and peace in your soul. I got mine and I'll go on Oprah if I have to . . . you are so full of venom, it's pathetic, therefore, your vision is cloudy at best. Peace out my brotha!!!
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KatrinaMBA
Comment: "feminazi" - Are you talking about white women? I've never heard of or met these kinds of women. If it is like someone stated before these Rosie O'Donnell types, I have no interaction with their kind. All the successful, educated, heterosexual, single Black women I know want a man. He doesn't even have to be a good man. He doesn't even have to be educated or successful (big car, big house, big money). Supportive and loving will more than suffice. This is honestly where I believe some of our men are failing. They figure that if they can't be "Mr. Ebonique Extraordinare of Multiple College Degrees and Successful Resume of the New Millenium", then maybe they would rather just be as diametrically opposed to that man as possible. I don't want to say that they just would rather be nothing but statistics are showing how our men are not working but they are also not LOOKING for work or career advancement. I'm referring to the recent NY Time Article on the dire statistics for Black men. Additionally, this lack of working has led to a quagmire of hopelessness and depression which in turn leads to questionable and unsafe sexual activity. We need only refer to the staggering HIV/AIDS statistics within the Black population (please see the recent Newsweek focusing on AIDS in America 25 years later, specifically the article on AIDS affect in Black America). We have always been a proud, hardworking race of people. My question is, when did Black men become so afraid of hard work, success, and achievement? And why are Black women being villified for wanting more out of them? How can we all stop this blame game and get to helping our brothers want more for themselves, their women, their families, and their communities?
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MER82
Comment: Mrs Phoenix-everything that brotha has responded to that hasn't been in his favor has been hateful (check the feedback section 5/34/06), the article he writes--attacking women for standing up for women -have extremely hateful undertones. I make no apologies for what I've said. Read a little more closely. PEACE.
Name:
MER82
Comment: that's 5/24/06.
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wiccar
Comment: Thank u Mrs Phoenix. I'm with u. People need to read again more closely. The nasty attacks from women here and on other page just make DJ's point that much more clearly. Thank u DJ. I don't always agree with u but see no reason to attack you either.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Realuv..uhm..did u just say that "sorry azz men are the majority and it's their own fault?" *taking a second glance* I'm assuming that maybe u really didn't mean but was caught up in the cyber-exchange between the 2 of u. Katrina..I think u may be right in that these women do want a man. The question I have is "do men know that?" I mean it's different if your girlfriends are telling YOU that but is that same "want" communicated to the men they encounter? Just a thought
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MER82
Comment: wiccar-I am glad that you can remain positive. I on the other hand was attacked directly by the author in one of his original comments to another poster-under his article. I have also been cyber-attacked by this author on a similar subject previously-the author doesn't like people who don't agree with him--if you read some more of his controversial pieces in the archives, you will see that he tends to attack those who disagree quite often-this ain't no "oh I misunderstood shyt up in here"....
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CrzyLdy16
Comment: I don't post often and I try not to post when people start calling each other names (just "ignant" in my opinion), but I would really like to know from Darryl the list of favorable attributes in Hillary and Michelle he thinks should be emulated.
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wiccar
Comment: Mer82- Positive ain't got nuthin to do. People need to reread their responses. Like they haven't attacked b4 they got attacked with their undertones. Look at Realuv's response on "good men are hard to find becuase...." WTF? C'mon now. I don't care about DJ, don't know him but people spend mo time on him than the column content itself from the git. Nevah mind DJ. If it's really bullS as some say where's the truth response without all the attack and emotions. Show me some columns here where women speak to the ish of women in helping create black people problems. Let's work together.
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DarrylJames
Comment: Here’s the real funny part. The Feminatzis came in here and didn’t disagree with statistics or respect. From the start of this thread, that idiot MER82 called me a "miserable one." That’s when I let her have it. Let’s be real and stop lying and whining about my attacks. The other idiot, realuvbaby opened talking about how men are babied and refuse to respect themselves and blah blah blah—both of you can go straight to hell.
And, realuv you know you must be off base when musbdherbs checks you, since he always disagrees with me.
It’s not the disagreeing, it’s the nasty way you are being disagreeable, so I come with the guns out. Stop whining about me attacking you if you won’t stop attacking me. I can’t fight with myself, now can I? If I’m so ignorant, try being respectful to me and see what happens.
Realhatebaby sounds so silly analyzing a man she has never met. Talking about I need hugs and I don’t have a woman. You really love me, don’t you? I’m going to make you a board member of my fan club. You choose to live alone because your male cat even split on your bitter azz. Keep analyzing stupid—the women in my family and circle of friends love me dearly and hug me regularly. And, look up the word stunted retard.
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DarrylJames
Comment: And, here’s some more reality that the Feminatzis will refuse to look at. Many women hate me and attack me because they have NEVER seen a real man before. That’s why I confuse them. They are accustomed to the little poosy boys who lick their butts and tell them they are right. Read the article again because I called you out. You have no respect for me and freak out that I disrespect you in return. Radical Feminism is failing because there ARE some real men who are standing up. Get used to it!
How can I love women and say what I say to the likes of you filthy wretches? Simple. You aren’t women—you’re lowlife humans and undeserving of respect. Really, sample KatrinaMBA. I don’t agree with everything she said, nor does she with I, but I am open because she is not disrespecting me. She comes off like a LADY.
Really, why have I never attacked KatrinaMBA if I go after people for disagreeing with me? Some of you evil fools have never seen a real man and probably have never seen a real woman, either.
Really, fakeluv and MER82, you’re frustrated because I’m bigger than you and you can’t stop me. You fuel me because I know you will eventually die off and there are more like me coming. I won’t go away just because you don’t like me.
No one except KatrinaMBA even tried to come real with the article. All there has been is how wrong I am and how I need a hug, but nothing to PROVE me wrong.
Want some cheese with that whine?
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ifeni35
Comment: Whew! This is a hot one! I've had problems with Darryl's writing, but I found myself agreeing with this one. (That's scary) I'm a feminist, but it's hard to resolve some of the messages from the extremists. My dad is old school, and come off kinda rough, but he doesn't hate women. He loves my mom and while she doesn't work, that's what they agreed to do. My family gave us support, but my brother can't get it together because my mother always made excuses for him. She even fought my father to do that. She made sure I was accountable and strong. How is that kind of thing the black man's fault? I get the part where Daryl is referring to RADICAL feminists. In some ways, they are like the stupid Christians he wrote about. I've been struggling with my own commitment to feminism. I keep hearing about how powerful we are, but why can't we help our sons and the other men we love? I can't be the kind of feminist who just blames black men for their own condition. All the while blaming them for our problems, too. Somethings got to give. Maybe we need to go back to ONE struggle. I'm struggling with Darryl's name-calling. But, to be honest, I don't know any ladies who talk to men like this either. Let's have some peace, people.
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ifeni35
Comment: Whew! This is a hot one! I've had problems with Darryl's writing, but I found myself agreeing with this one. (That's scary) I'm a feminist, but it's hard to resolve some of the messages from the extremists. My dad is old school, and come off kinda rough, but he doesn't hate women. He loves my mom and while she doesn't work, that's what they agreed to do. My family gave us support, but my brother can't get it together because my mother always made excuses for him. She even fought my father to do that. She made sure I was accountable and strong. How is that kind of thing the black man's fault? I get the part where Daryl is referring to RADICAL feminists. In some ways, they are like the stupid Christians he wrote about. I've been struggling with my own commitment to feminism. I keep hearing about how powerful we are, but why can't we help our sons and the other men we love? I can't be the kind of feminist who just blames black men for their own condition. All the while blaming them for our problems, too. Somethings got to give. Maybe we need to go back to ONE struggle. I'm struggling with Darryl's name-calling. But, to be honest, I don't know any ladies who talk to men like this either. Let's have some peace, people.
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wiccar
Comment: ifeni35 - now that's intelligent grown talk for dialog. good questions.
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MrsPhoenix
Comment: I agree with wiccar...why must we talk AT one another instead of talk TO one another (and then act like kids "Well, DJ started it FIRST")????
Name:
MrsPhoenix
Comment: And MER82, I humbly suggest that YOU read a little more closely since you (nor anyone else on this board) answered my original questions: "What is so "hateful" about DJ (or ANYONE) bustin' up the lies that many of us as Sistas have subscribed to? What is so "hateful" about DJ (or ANYONE) asking us Sistas to own up to our culpability regarding negative Black male/female relationships?"
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MER82
Comment: I will tell you what is hateful besides everything I have already addressed. Why is it that women have to take the fall for everything? If we look beyond simple statistics into hardcore history, we know that women have dealt with all kinds of ill, every since Eve this has been the case. Of course we have women young and old who have internalized oppression and naturally that comes from being raised in the same society males have been. Women are blamed for passing negative traits on to their sons, they are blamed for raising sons to the best or least of their abilities, they are blamed for why men can't hold it down. We take the fall for everything and we even turn on each other, just look at this board. All the while the men, the black men, sit back and keep getting coddled in that they don't have to take responsibility or hold each other to any standard. Now it is "radical feminists" fault or feminists fault for why women and men are still not getting along? That is foolishness, plain and simple. I don't even consider myself anything but who I am, a black woman that is sick and tired of taking on the burdens of the world by myself. It is high time and Real LUV said it best-that in this 21st century--for MEN to take stock in self and get self together. Who better to help men do that, than a man? But of course that is where this author and his ridiculous rants come in. If this nut was a real man, he wouldn't get offended by intelligent women fighting his fire with fire. This supposed man has yet to deal with the men--WITHOUT THE WOMEN. Its like White dealing with white and not the black. I don't expect a lot of folk to get that because a lot of women hate self and a lot of men hate women. If you are the beneficiary of the patriarchy, how DARE you tell the oppressed what they are doing wrong. If we are about working together then we can disagree we can fuss we can do what it takes to get the communication going. But I will no longer participate in Daryl's foolishness because I have totally lost respect in him as a valid writer. If this brother was secure with himself he wouldn't be attacking those who fight back in response to him and he surely wouldn't be attacking those who don't-so what we are dealing with here is someone who is not whole, he is simply a simple human being who has an opinion that is no longer worthy of reading.
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MER82
Comment: If you haven't gone back and read the previous posts and articles-then you don't understand the passion behind my posts so please talk about what you know about and leave the rest alone.
PEACE my sorry black people.
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MrsPhoenix
Comment: Again MER82, you are talking with your heart and not with your mind. Sista, we have to get BEYOND the pain and rise above emotion into the thinking of God.
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MER82
Comment: The thinking of God! Mrs. Phoenix, sista what is your deal? I want you to think about this...I have been no more emotional on this issue than this man, who called me out in his first posting-because I simply agreed with the woman who formally responded to him-so what is your point exactly? Who are you protecting and better yet--why? How as women, are we not aware of our faults? Of course we are, but why do the likes of women like you want to systematically exclude the other half of this equation? How are we to rise as a people as long as we have women like you who don't want to hold men accountable for their actions? Now that is something to think about.
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MrsPhoenix
Comment: Sista, I hold US men and women accountable for OUR actions equally. That means both genders play a role. The solution, however, will not be found in putting all the blame on our men, NOR will it be found in blasting men and women who speak up (which is what both you and realuvbaby have done).
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MER82
Comment: But no one under this posting EVER said it was all the brotha's faults-that is what you are not getting. How have we done anymore in our comments than Darryl has done-what are you his publicist? Why must you keep on this path with me--I am done with this, I have said before and I will say it again--Men need to be held accountable by men. How is that placing blame? Why can they not stand on their own, why must you be their spokeswoman? How are they ever going to be able to stand alone with you holding them up?
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KatrinaMBA
Comment: MER82 - My impression is very similar to that of MrsPhoenix. Your pain leaps off the page. I know that your experience is your own and we can only hope to learn from it but I don't see how attacking women in this discussion helps us to learn anything more. What I do feel is that we have lost our historical footing as women and many of us have internalized the hate lumped on us by the majority society and also our own men. I think our men sometimes react in the way that they do because it’s incarnate in them to subjugate others. It’s the manifest destiny of a man. Personally, I don’t want a man who does not have the innate “will to survive” which should be in the bloodline of every warrior. However, as women, we have to give them a balance. Its is intrinsic in their DNA to take a superior stance in dealing with women but as strong women and mothers we need to help our sons, brothers, and fathers realize that their success is linked to a strong bond with the woman. As sisters, mothers, lovers, and wives, we should not stand for the mistreatment without confronting it. We should be firm with the men we date and not sleep with them the first time we go out. Yes, it’s a man's nature to want to conquer but we don’t have to give in. We should not clean up their rooms and give them extravagant gifts as their mothers. We should be rewarding hard work in school and good behavior with modest, educational gifts. When did new Nikes replace books when there’s been a job well done? We should be loving our husbands but not allowing them with our full knowledge to have outside relationships and children. There should be no such thing as "the other woman". We should stand our ground in dealing with our fathers and not allow them to dictate how we live our lives as independent women, whether married or single. If being a feminist means taking a stand to no longer be a victim, then I've always been for it!
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KatrinaMBA
Comment: ----I got some more --I just feel that our men have been beat down and treated like dogs and now it’s the only way that many of them know how to interact with a woman. They find that heaping their pain on us makes them feel as if they have regained some of the power taken from them by the majority society. But that's no way for them or us to live! In Ancient Egypt, the power, prestige, and wealth of the house came through the woman. In modern times, when a marriage was imminent, a dowry was paid for the woman. In Judaism, only a child born of a Jew woman is considered a Jew. Even today, when marriages take place, it is the woman's family who carries the cost. It’s not secret...women have always been powerful entities. Only women can bring forth new life...that is power in its most basic form. Somewhere along the way we have lost our natural connection to our power and instead of working to reclaim it, we're blaming others for our circumstance. On one point I can agree with DJ, if these “man-childs” are being coddled....who's doing the coddling? If the fathers are as absent as the statistics have led us to believe, then it’s the mothers, sisters, aunts, grandmothers in these young men’s' lives who are enabling them to have this sense of entitlement without any balance. They are learning their disrespect from the women who are raising them and then they are being unleashed on the rest of society. Now their women are saying "work and be successful", when they have never been raised to work, they never had to contribute to their household or clean their rooms or wash their own clothes. Their women are now saying "have a college degree or an education", when mediocre performance in school as a child was acceptable to the women who raised them and they received gifts like new sneakers for getting all "C's". Now they are being forced into a position where they should respect women but they were never asked to do so by the women who raised them. Is it any wonder that these men hate and disrespect women?
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DarrylJames
Comment: I need to find Ifeni35 and hug her, because that’s a strong woman there. There is strength and nurturing in both MrsPhoenix and KatrinaMBA as well—both strong women who are still LADIES.
Phoenix and Katrina, you have exposed so much, but particularly you have exposed MER82 and her inner turmoil. She is projecting on me what she needs to resolve in therapy. That’s why during my lectures and seminars so many women come up to me and stand close just to touch me. I hug them, because I know that a lot of us are hurting and don’t know what to do with that—men and women. Many of our sisters have never seen a strong Black man before and that hurts me deeply.
We have to get to the point where we can disagree without all the emotional venom, thinking that anyone who is in the path will take it. That’s why sometimes I give it back. When we keep taking it from people, it makes them crazier, because they keep thinking that it’s okay to do so. Just look at how MER82 refuses to admit that she came in here swinging. Now, she’s angry with the two of you because in her mind, you’re supposed to be on her side just because you’re women.
Really, even if you were protecting me, why would that be a bad thing? That’s not coddling. We need to get back to more of protecting each other against untoward evil.
Katrina, I will be the first to admit that much of what you have laid out is pure science.
Even though I don’t agree with all that you wrote, I don’t think you’re indicting all Black men or that you are being disrespectful. There are many of us who are failing and I’ve written about it.
I’ve done "Just Be A Man About It," Part 1 AND Part 2.
I’ve spoken about how more of us need to stand up for more of us.
And, I spoke about men’s emotional retardation in this column ("Big Boys Don’t Cry"), but I also spoke about how many women are now joining that number, which is where the breakdown is coming from.
But, really, I can write about whatever I want to, and I choose certain topics because the male perspective is not represented. We can’t continue to be silent.
You’re not indicting single mothers either, but laying out the fact that women have to toe the line with their male children.
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DarrylJames
Comment: KatrinaMBA, you said: "If being a feminist means taking a stand to no longer be a victim, then I've always been for it!" Guess what? So have I! The rest of the rhetoric about how men are such horrible creatures fails because I won’t crap on myself in order to make you feel better. I think we can move each other forward without having to tear each other down.
You also support a theory that I have put forth in this column, which is that it’s ignorant for women to talk of their "new" power, because women, particularly Black women, have been powerful for a long time. It’s just that now too many women are finding that power by talking about how strong they are in comparison to the lowdown lazy good for nothing men.
Thank you for recognizing the conundrum of blaming men for the poor state of Black male children, while also claiming that they are not present. Even if the man is not present, there are men—uncles, brothers, cousins who can stand up for them. What is wrong with a Black woman asking a Black fraternity, for example, to spend time with her young manchild?
Thank you also for recognizing that I never heaped all the blame on Black women. Not in this article and not in any of my columns.
As for the balance at EUR, if there needs to be a strong woman’s perspective, I would nominate you, even though I don’t agree with everything you say. You have an historical perspective to make it make sense and most of all, you respect yourself and others.
I try to impart to sisters that when you are disagreeing with a man, you have to remain a lady, because once you step out of the boundaries of lady-like behavior, you are opening yourself to being treated like anything but a lady. Good or bad, we have to be fighters, or we will just get broken down and fall apart into nothingness. Real women don’t talk crazy to men and get surprised when they get disrespected. That’s the world we have today. If you walk into the disagreement ready to fight, then that’s what you will get.
Something is seriously wrong when a so-called Black woman tells a Black man that he is the beneficiary of patriarchy. The radical feminists fooled you well and that is the problem.
It’s also sad that in the midst of defending feminism, MER82 objectified herself by claiming that I would sweat her if I saw her.
So conflicted. Such a hot, angry ghetto mess.
And, on this board, she is now talking about "sorry Black people." How could my point be any clearer?
I wrote: "Quite frankly, the reaction of radical feminists to my writing is always negative, bitchy attacks overwrought with emotion and bullshit." MER82, thank you for proving that true.
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MER82
Comment: Darryl you are certifiable-why are you so concerned with how I feel and who I am, you ARE sweating me so you actually proved my point. You people are killing me in here. With some exception, I don't have issue with practically anything Katrina stated. What I have done is simply addressed the other side of this picture. It is amazing to me how my posts can be interpreted as angry but this fool baldy's can't. I am not going to keep justifying what I have said, I just find it real interesting that things always fall back on women. The whole point behind what I have stated is that women have been doing anything at all! The men have been falling by the wayside and no one is bringing them up.
Name:
MER82
Comment: Yes I am angry, I am angry that there aren't enough strong men like the ones I know personally. I am angry that there aren't enough strong men to take on the challenge of raising and mentoring young boys. I am angry that a fool like Darryl can masquerade like he is a strong man just because some women choose to coddle his rhetoric. Its obvious now this fool only writes positive stories after he first meets a woman, then after the usual major rejection, he is back to ranting like some mad lunatic, creating one-sided diatribes and lashing out against anyone who can serve his shyt right back to him. Darryl leave me out of future posts, I told you I am through, I will not be reading any more of your hot blooded foolisness. The only reason I posted to begin with is because your loser %*$ referenced my screen name and disrespected me. I have said what I needed to say on the subject and we can take it outside if this needs to go further. I am not a child, and I will not keep playing this childish game with you. You are missing something little man, and I will not help you find it.
Name:
MrsPhoenix
Comment: Sista, just stop. Please stop.
Name:
MER82
Comment: Mrs. Phoenix you have got to be kidding me. Let's just agree to never refer to each other again, cuz "sista" you are coming across real loopy at this point.
Name:
KatrinaMBA
Comment: musbdherbs - I'm going to clue you into some real game. All women ever talk about is the men they want!And most men are generally very aware of the women who want them. I've never had a problem letting a man know in subtle or overt terms how, when, or where I wanted him:) Nah mean! My friends are some very real women with real lives, real hardships, real successes, and real dreams. They want real men and these women have no issues with letting the good ones know that they are interested. School days are over...real women are speaking up about what they want out of life and out of the men they truly desire.
Name:
KatrinaMBA
Comment: I had no idea this was a headliner bout? I'll just stick with the contenders and let the main event, DJ vs. MER82 go on to the bloody finish. This is waaaaay better than Ultimate Fighting!
Name:
DarrylJames
Comment: WAIT--I was done, but MERman, did you just invite me outside? LOL!! You are NUUUTTTYYYY!!! ROTFLMBAO!! You said: "we can take it outside if this needs to go further." Now, you want to fight me? Now, I know I’m done with you. And, by the way, this "little" man is just about six feet tall. Go ahead and finish spewing, though. I’ll let you have the last word. Now I know that they have computers in the nut house!!
Name:
MrsPhoenix
Comment: DJ: And Sista calls ME loopy...Peace out MER82, because you (and the rest of us) need some peace AND enlightement in our lives!
Name:
ifeni35
Comment: Jesus, MER82, are you okay? Let it go, please. Please??? This can't be making you feel good. I don’t think that Darryl is a bad person. He sounds like a good brother who cares about us. I think that he’s frustrated like many of us and wants a solution. This is a serious situation. I wish we could talk about the issue and not him. You talk about him like you know him. If you do, please just go and talk to him. If you don't, please stop. Please don’t downtalk me because I just don't understand where you are coming from. Are you really a feminist or just angry at Darryl? Why are you talking to this man this way? Do you really think the man would "sweat" you when you are this unlady-like? I’m embarrassed for you, sister. To be honest, I would be afraid of you in public. Not because of your strength, but because you seem a bit hostile and out of control. I don't feel attacked by Darryl, but I do by you. Thank you, Darryl, for offering the hug. I would take that and give you one in return. We need more hugs. Let's all find somebody to hug today, people.
Name:
Secret
Comment: MER82 Honey you are so on point!! I know you are tripping off of these people up in here but your argument is just as valid as Darryl's he has his little groupies up in here he will turn on them eventually just like he did Lolly. He hates women, it so obvious. I cram to understand how in the hell he seems to know so much about women when he has never walked a damn step in our shoes. He also spends more time than any man, or woman analyzing women. Something is very, very wrong with that in and of it self. He has major issues with women sometimes I think he wants to be one. I mean he obviously believes he known’s our heart better than we do. He is no different than the misogynistic Rappers out here but because he has a column we are suppose to think he's educated. “Bridging The Gap”??? MY AZZ. This NEGRO is burning the damn bridge down with his hatred. Darryl save your nasty diatribe I don’t give a damn what you feel or have to say. I know your just one of those GAY men who hate women.
Name:
KatrinaMBA
Comment: Groupie, harpie, diatribe....sounds like the same person spitting venom earlier has posted under an alias called "Secret"...for shame! Why be ashamed of showing your natural Black arse...we're all adults up and through here. And for the record, I'm a self-avowed non-conformist, a preceptor of unacknowledged truths, and a much maligned but unaffected agent of change. I take personal insult at being called a groupie because I have never met a group that could contain, elevate, or surpass me! Even as a woman of faith, I chose to follow the path which the Creator has expressly intended only for me. I am a member of the human race and I choose to wear this Black skin with dignity and pride but that's where the similarities between myself and any other person ends. I don't acknowledge anyone who tries to pigeon-hole me with their blind %*$ertions and preconcieved notions. Please do continue in your ignorance...I hear its bliss. Peace from Katrina (and that's no "Secret"!)
Name:
Secret
Comment: KatrinaMBA for you to be this self-avowed non-conformist preceptor of unacknowledged truths you sure took my term "Groupie" to heart. lol A preceptor of unacknowledged truths, yet you refuse to acknowledge Darryl's true nature. He is filled with contempt for black women and that's no Secret either. The moment you don't agree with him he allows his emotions to cloud his better judgment and spits the nasty venom at black women I have ever heard. Only a fool would believe that he cares about women a black woman that is. He has respect for Dr. Laura a white racist but he has nothing but contempt for black women. He just doesn't seem to hold black women in high regard. So why would I listen or try to understand his point a view. He has let it be known that he doesn't give a damn about anyone else’s view unless they are agreeing with him. He is what you call a hypocrite> (Somebody who gives a false appearance of having admirable principles, beliefs, or feelings)
Name:
Kofi
Comment: What Darryl is describing is not really radical feminism but, some black women buying into negative black male images. Movies such as Color Purple and Waiting to Exhale were definitely man basher movies. Women sometimes get together and do this. That is just a reality. Exhale was just an movie version of beauty shop talk. My point is there are a number of wounded black women out there. Movies like this are furtile ground for these women. Most black women want a man who is working and responsible period. Its not so much about him supporting her career but, the ability to work together to build something. A true feminist would address the abuse that black women endure in real life and not movie images. DJ talks about radical feminist being a problem but, a much stronger case can be made against the sexism and patriarcal systems in the black community especially the black church. Even on the left, groups such as the Black Panthers were very sexist. Sexism and homophobia pervade black communities which in turn hurts us all. What Darryl is describing are hurt and wounded black women. Instead of addressing the source of that pain he dismisses those very real and legitmate grivances as "radical feminism."