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Name: Brandon
Comment: Just take this case to trial already!!! This thing has been under investigation since 2002, either prosecute R. Kelly or leave him alone. As it stands, he has yet to stand trial for any of the underage girls he has allegedly "fooled around" with.
Name: Luke_Cage
Comment: R.Kelly? Child porn case??? What child porn case?! This didn't go to trial YET???-lol
Name: fuzzygoss
Comment: Don't care. Kellz keep making damnnnn good music and stay prayed up after you repent for your sins. I am still a fan. We all make mistakes. None of us NONE!!!! are model citizens.
Name: NJBLKGUY
Comment: Fuzzgoss-just curious.... would you still be a fan if he's guilty of sexing and urinating on a 13-year old?
Name: McNasty
Comment: The video tape is all in the street for sale how could they even consider leaving it out of the trial?! They need to see what chester the child molester is truly capable of. Convict this perv already!!
Name: coneyi
Comment: I mean for real already....!!!!
Name: coesmo
Comment: Hasn't this case been dragged out long enough? throw him in prison already!!
Name: Train
Comment: By the time they bring this thing to trial that girl will be a grandmother (lol). Let's look at what has happened since the tape came out in 2002. Scott Peterson...convicted. Robert Blake and Michael Jackson...acquitted. The cat from the 911 trial...convicted. Phil Spector...trail currently underway. Lay and Skilling..convicted. See where I'm going with this people? I saw that video and it's him as plain as day. Enough with the delays let's get this thing over with. R must know that he's guilty as hell if he keeps having his attorneys delay the trial.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...A mistake is when you forget to put hot sauce on the table...He had a plan...This cat got a video camera grabbed a underaged girl, peed on her and captured all this sickness on film...The cat is sick and until a cure can be found for his sickazz...He needs to be locked the fucc up...He can step in the name of love, believe he can fly, whateva man...That dude is sick....
Name: khufu
Comment: no response from FUZZY casue he/she probably f--ks minors.....see, do all the sin you want and just pray and repent and all is okay and then if you do it again...pray and repent..man, R Kelly should have his azz whipped...I wonder what the psychological state of the girl is these days?
Name: McNasty
Comment: She was reportedly happy as a ho with a sack full of dyck's as one of his back up dancers last year.
Name: iclaudius
Comment: BOOTANE BOOTUS you are a fool, dude. (LMBAO) And you are right on the money... R's azz is sick.
Name: McNasty
Comment: Too bad we'll never know whether she would have gone that way or not or gone to college or just became a success in any other field.
Name: ACTUALLY
Comment: Wow, a mistake huh? ------------------ Kelly has already settled two other civil suits brought by underage girls who accused him of coercing them into sex. However, he denied having any relationship with either. He's also fighting a similar suit brought in April by a woman who claims Kelly seduced her when she was 16, got her pregnant and forced her to have an abortion. -------------- I guess some people are really slow to learn.
Name: Train
Comment: I bet he paid the family off and if that's true then it's a dayum shame. No father worth anything would've blew his %*$ away but he takes the money selling his kid out in the process.
Name: deepbrownsista
Comment: People need to stop looking at what he does for a living and look at the bigger picture. You can never ever be ok with what R. Kiddie Porn is accused on doing w/underage girls. We all have mothers, sisters and daughters that we care about. Anyone that can gloss over what this slim-ball did is about a jacked up as that loser of a human being. He is a lost, pathetic and empty soul, who needs to be under the f*%$ing jail. Fuzzygoss, get a damn clue, because it could be happening in your own damn backyard. Would you tell or blame someone else, besides a "GROWN %*$" prick for a human being.
Name: nycGYRL888
Comment: I've never seen the video so I guess I am of the minority on this board...so I have to take everyone's word for it when it comes to the details of the video. But the time spent delaying this crap is ridiculous and a waste of taxpayers money! Either convict him or leave him alone. >>>Boot you are one funny dude I swear! But you are simply speaking truth today! From what you all describe...he is a sick freak!
Name: Train
Comment: >Boot, the only cure for child molestors is the death penalty. Tie him up to a chair and let the family or authorities beat him to death. Molestors, drug dealers, gangbangers, wife beaters..all of them the death penalty.
Name: Angel
Comment: "lawyers on both sides and the judge himself to view the tape during the trial. The reasoning is that the girl was a minor." Hmmmm....so has the defense conceded that the girl was a minour or is this just bad reporting?
Name: deepbrownsista
Comment: I should have said, "is accused of doing". Sorry for the typo!!!
Name: Thunny
Comment: I want this dude under the jail as much as anybody who has posted here, but Fuzzygoss represents the mindstate of millions of people out there, a reflection of all of his CDs debuting at number one and his concerts and tours being sold out across the country, even after these accusations. Black folks are way too forgiving sometimes.
Name: Thunny
Comment: Angel, I think everybody agrees the girl is a minor. It's R Kelly who is playing dumb pretending like he is not the man on the tape. He really thinks everybody's stupid and can't recognize a face that has been on televisions and stages across the world for over 10 years straight. That's reason enough to throw him in jail! But when he's found guilty of being a child molester, he will also be guilty of perjury and have more time added to his sentence. I hope at least!
Name: archcookies
Comment: It this man had been poor this trial would have been over in 2002 and he would be serving time, his money and high powered lawyers are keeping him out of the click. Hey I saw the video and it was him clear as day, I loss a lot of respect for R Kelly and do not support him in any way he belongs where perverts live, in jail.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...If ever there was a need for Drop Squad...That time is now...Drop down on Robert Kelly..Drop kick his azz and film it...Then show it to all sickazzes who like to screw around with children...
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: The only problem I have with this whole thing is the press/the hate, etc. is to make R. Kelly the poster child for child molestors. One would be led to believe that R. Kelly is the first and only child molestor. I wonder if anyone ever abused R. Everything we do is learned. And many abusers themselves have been abused. He's just the most famous. Sure, he put it on tape and that in and of itself is sick, and he showed it and somebody stole it out of his house. If people weren't into porn at all, there probably would be no tape. Remember, in America, success means vice and when you're successful, the world of vice is yours: SEX, DRUGS, ALCOHOL, and any other perverted thing that comes to mind is yours. That is success in America. Some people want R. Kelly to be punished because they've been victims of molestation themselves. Some of us have R. Kelly's in our own families; some of us have been abused by the R Kellys. I'm just afraid that delivering R's head on a platter will do nothing for those who continue to abuse children. I'm not calling on those who have been victimized to now face their own accusers, report them to the authorities and put them on trial. Let's start a movement to protect the children -- including those of you who are keeping family secrets. EXPOSE THEM ALL! If you know a pedophile, report him, even if he's your uncle, father, brother, sister, mother, aunt, grandmother, etc. Perhaps, then and only then, would those like R. Kelly be put out of their misery and we can begin to save the children. And remember, those who have viewed the tape have contributed to the abuse of this child you care about, because you were not thinking about the child as you were passing the tape around like a box of Cracker Jacks. People do the right thing for the wrong reason. If it's the child we care about, then let's get to the abuse problem. But apparently this was an open secret. Everybody in Chicago knew about R's relationships with young girls. But just as he was about to come off as the GREATEST, this came out. The timing of the exposure never sat well with me, especially since Sparkle was a minor when she started with R herself, and she brought her niece to the studio initially. Just don't do the right thing for the wrong reasons, is what I'm saying and I'm afraid it was for the wrong reasons, that's why they are having a hard time bringing this to trial.
Name: khufu
Comment: REALLUVBABY...that's the only problem you have it it? Please explain. You dont have a problem with R Kelly exploiting a minor? also...guess what? This %*$! happens a lot!!! and I hate to bring it up again but.the NNACP actually nominated R Kelly for an Image Award, didnt they?
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: fuzzygoss>You're train of thought must be a little fuzzy. I'm all for letting the justice system decide Kelly's fate. But, come on now we can't allow people to commit crimes, say a few rosaries and call it a day.
Name: lovinlife
Comment: nycGYRL888, no you're not the only one who hasn't seen, I haven't either. One of my ghettofied cousins was showing it to anybody who wanted to see it after the story first broke. We had to have a family intervention (corner him at a bbq and beat his azz) for being just as sick as that fool on the tape for showing it. I don't think R.Kelly will do any time for his crimes and that's a dayum shame.
Name: dakoolestkat
Comment: Fuzzy..yes R Kelly should repent..but he should publickly confess and repent to his victims and their families...realistically thats not gonna happen but since you brought up repentance...if he's gonna do it he needs to do it the right way...i mean..don't pee on my leg and tell me its raining
Name: Thunny
Comment: I don't get that feeling that we're tryiong to make him the poster child for child molesters. If that was true, we're doing a pretty poor job of that considering this man is still selling out arenas on a regular basis. Personally, I could give a damn about that chick from the tape. From what everybody says (I only saw stills, not the actual video), that little 13 year old was experienced and wanted it, which means she is already a lost cause. What is not a lost cause, however, is prosecuting R Kelly. Better late than never.
Name: coneyi
Comment: Thunny...So true. The court looks at that. As long as people keep supporting him by buying his music, going to his concerts. It will continue to get delayed. A few times that the judge delayed this trial so R could go on tour. They let him travel "to go make money." It's a dam.n shame. He.ll I just read he is getting ready to go back out on another tour. So many other celebs have been to trial and either convicted or aquitted, way after these alligations came forth. Some even with no witnesses, or ones who weren't credible at all (MJ Trial). HE IS ON TAPE! Looking straight in the tape. How much more evidence do they need. Obviously it's not about the evidence. Lock this nasty baztard up or drop the case.
Name: Thunny
Comment: coneyi, even Saddam Hussein's trial is over!! LOL They found him guilty of decades of war crimes in less time that it has taken to even bring R Kelly to trial, let alone prove it is he who is on the tape. There is more physical proof and evidence in the R Kelly case than in the Saddam case! Funny how both have the same defense - "wasn't me!" LOL
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: realuv..u did make a good point about those people who actually passed this tape around. I couldn't watch the rest of it because it's a lil too harsh on my stomach. I don't even watch the dateline online predator jump off that comes on NBC. It's just too much. However, there is something sick about those people who were salivating to get the damn tape, those who sold it..and those who passed it along. As far as 'supporting' him, people support who they want for a variety of reasons. Some feel that certain elements of hip-hop are destructive so they won't support it...some do. Some people support record labels that have been created through drug/blood money...some don't. So, if Fuzzy wants to purchase Kelly's movies..then that's on him/her and who are we to tell him/her that it's wrong. It's all in different perspectives. I went to a RKelly afterparty when his concert was here and it didn't seem like ANY of the hundreds of hundreds of hundreds of people who were there had ONE issue w/Kelly. So, it's not just some small portion..it's a whole lot of folk. What I can't understand is what is it about this case that is taking it so long? We can't even argue his 'celebrity' status anymore. As someone pointed out..look at the number of high-profile cases that have been prosecuted by now. If the lack of mov't was due to the celebrity/money factor, then surely Lay/Skilling/Abramoff/Cunningham/et. al..wouldn't have been prosecuted either. Or better yet wouldn't they have found out WHO JACKED CAMERON by now...LMAO @ Thun! Something is wrong here..something is really, really, REALLY, wrong and it can't possibly be the status of the defendant or his teams shenanigans.
Name: Thunny
Comment: Grrrr - it's "Cam'Ron"!!! LOL
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: Khufu . . . people exploit minors ALL the time. And also, the tape wasn't exactly rape. He did not get this girl from Mrs. Louise's Romper Room. That's why they are having a hard time with it, I believe. I understand that may have been a crime against the "state", but I've not heard one thing about the girl or her family pressing charges. Also, Khufu, I choose my battles. Exploiting a minor? Well, some minors need to stay in their places and not entertain grown folk for that very reason -- they may be exploited. When I was little, I could not even be in the company of adults. My grandparents and parents made it understood that I was to play with children and stay out of grown folks business and away from them. Perhaps they knew why, but I listened to what I was taught, and thank God, I've never been abused. Mostly because I didn't put myself in a position to be abused because I did what I was told.
Name: Angel
Comment: Thunny - My bad. I thought one the defenses was that since the Prosecution could not pinpoint the date of the video, then they could not say whether she was underage or not at the time since there are no witnesses to testify her age.
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: ACTUALLY > At 16 years old, How can someone other than your Parents FORCE you to get an abortion?? Just curious...
Name: OSUN
Comment: realuvbaby, I beg to differ that it is not rape. She was a minor so that would make it statutory RAPE. I dont care if she was walking on her hands with her legs spread wide open, she was 13/14 so that makes it rape.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: LMAO....OSUN..that's a visual I couldn't done w/o..lol
Name: Thunny
Comment: Angel, it could be that too. That's the problem, the reason(s) for the delay is not clear at all.
Name: bigheadbull2
Comment: Save the speeches honey many people have been abused and did not grow up to do the same. In fact I became a police officer so I could help someone else. Yes there are after effects but you can do and become anything you want at some point no matter what our past we have to make a choice to break the cycle or to continue in the same destuctive vain. All child molesters are worthy of death and nothing more
Name: bigheadbull2
Comment: Yeah they get to hand Saddam
Name: OSUN
Comment: Musb not to take away from the seriousness of the topic, but I have set the ability to do that move as one of my personal goals.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: And let's not leave out poor parenting. The difference between Aaliyah and this little girl is that Aaliyah's parents stepped in when they got wind of the situation. When parents let their minor children hang out in the streets till all hours of the day and night and cannot account for them, then whose problem is it? That's why I choose my battles. We must all bear responsibility for our actions. Adults have a responsibility to lead and to teach; children have a responsibility to do what they are told. When one one chooses to go away from what they were taught, what could I do? If the interest was truly the children, then the citizens of Chicago should have spoken out long ago. But from what I understand, it was an open secret. There's something called due process in this country and the system works if charges are brought properly and in a timely manner. But no one said a word till this tape surfaced. If the issue was exploitation of minors, then I'm sure this case would have gone to trial long ago, but there seems to be other issues. It could be that all those who are involved hands' are not clean. Who really knows? This seems like an issue between the DA, R Kelly, the girl's parents and the girl (whic I did hear that she knew EXACTLY what she was doing. Not to blame the victim, but when you put yourself in the position to be exploited, you cannot cry as a victim when it's all over. It may have been exploitation, yes; but it didn't seem to be rape. He didn't exactly recruit her from Sesame Street or Miss Louise's Romper Room. It's messy, I'm afraid and we'll just have to choose our battles and continue to wait it out, as crazy as that seems.
Name: khufu
Comment: REALLUVBABY Firstly, you sound like an adult who has no problem with adults sexually exploiting children..you rationale the act by saying "They should stay in their place"...well, as a fourty-something year old, I too am from that time where we stayed away from adults...but you know what, children were still exploited...by uncles, aunts, cousins, brothers, sisters......Man, I have heard some stories about some %*$! that made me want to get a gun and go shoot someone I didnt even know but the %*$! he had done to his grand daughters (including impregnating one) was terrible!!
Name: khufu
Comment: REALLUVBABY: do you condemn the actual act of an adult having sex with a legal minor? Even if the minor says "yes"?
Name: khufu
Comment: this is a serioous issue and I find it very insulting and offensive to children and women in particular to trivialize it.....
Name: OSUN
Comment: Realuvbaby, you make valid points that indicate that we should not absolve the victim of her responsibility in this matter, however poor parenting has shat to do with whether or not it is acceptable for a grown azz man who is a repeat offender of this type of behavior to have sex with minor children whether they are compliant or not. Shifting the blame from R Kelly to the girls parents who are despicable should not appease peoples minds about putting money into the Chocolate Factory where all that deviant shat goes down.
Name: OSUN
Comment: Khufu unfortunately people get offending on boards.
Name: khufu
Comment: Le t me share a story: I heard there was an elderly man that got his granddaughter pregnant and everybody in this small southern town knew...okay, the girl had issues...of course she did...wtf? so no one did anything to this man.......no legal entity or anything...okay I met the girl's mother and she would always have the other daughter with her who was about 15.....little tiny little girl...real innocent looking.....well, I began to hear stories that this lil girl was %*$!(@ like 10 men at one time..I said, NO WAY....i started hearing she was %*$!(@! everybody.....and that's why her momma always had her with her...I said, NO WAY.....okay ...I hear her granddaddy doin her too...I say IM GOING TO SEE THIS %*$!(@!(*@$&...I talk to some people and EVERYBODY HAS KNOWN THIS FOR THE LONGEST...even the momma...Im like WTF? WHat's wrong with the Black community? MOMMA gets kiled tragically in car accident...young girl get's lost forever........man, this %*$! is not cool...there are a lot of lil girls going through some sexual %*$! and you know what? If you look at a 13,14, 15 year old and she looks likes it (you know that look Im talking about).....probably someone is touching her.....
Name: Greg
Comment: I don't think it makes sense to blame a minor for the actions of an adult. Whether it was the first time she was touched or the 100th doesn't matter. She's a minor, and as such, she cannot form the proper consent. This is statutory rape. Most of us were upset when the DJ Star said he wanted to do an "R. Kelly" on another DJ's daughter. We cannot say that is a terrible thing and forgive R kelly for actually doing it in the first place.
Name: khufu
Comment: OSUN I know that..however in this case: I am going to be offensive...for all those who actually see no problem with the actual act of an adult sexually exploiting a child/minor, if they have a daughter or even a son...then let them experience it and see if their perspective changes...
Name: Kimmie
Comment: I would LOVE to see this trial on Court TV.
Name: OSUN
Comment: Khufu I agree I thought your reference was to my comment to Musb. I know with absolutely no doubt if something like this happened to one of my nieces, it would be handled if you get my drift. I can't understand why people devalue women and children in this society. I guess because I had involved parents, maybe overly involved at times, but I cant imagine my young child being able to be exposed to this and my parents actually accepting hush money. I dont know what the outcome will be in this case, but R Kelly will get his b/c if he doesn't do time for this he will have sex with another minor again and he will come in contact with the wrong parent/guardian.
Name: Thunny
Comment: Hell, I'd love to see this trial in court, period!
Name: lovinlife
Comment: Speak it Greg! That's an excellent point.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: OSUN..lol..actually if you develop your core and upper body well enough..you should able to do it. Of course, you gotta stretch a lot to. And I mean a whole lot of stretching...When you do, uhm...can u send me a pic..lol REALUV...I understand what point you're making and I don't think that you're placing solely on the child/parents/kelly. It seems as if you're just pointing out that although Kelly shares the ultimate responsibility for committing the heinous act...there is enough blame to go around. That is what also needs to be focused on. At least that's what "I" got from your posts and don't think you're being ridiculous...just not 'emotional' Incest, molestation, are unfortunately, common threads in our community and the fact that they are so kept "in the closet," we continue to see pt. I,II,III,IV, and so on. Hopefully Kelly can leave these little girls ALONE. In fact, hopefully these other grown azz men AND women who have sex w/these young, willing, and able minors can as well.
Name: Greg
Comment: I don't see "enough blame to go around". The blame is on the shoulders of R. Kelly, and only R. Kelly. Parents letting a child go to a concert does not make them responsible for the child being raped. If your parents send you to the store, and you get raped, is it their fault? No. This child knowing what she was doing, does not take blame from R. Kelly wanting to have sex with minors. The actual crime here is sex with a minor. She is a minor. Even if she didn't know better he did! That is why the blame is on him and him alone.
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: Maybe this wasn't her first sexual experience. Maybe she's been with other boys her own age (It's wrong but may not be against the law) or maybe this wasn't her first experience with Kelly. He could have been the only man she's been with sexually. Never the less, this girl has been abused somewhere down the line and wrong is wrong. I hope Chicago decides to try this case. Everyone involved needs some closure.
Name: PHScott
Comment: Everybody's already seen the flickin' tape, why NOT show it in court. After all, it IS evidence...
Name: coneyi
Comment: Thunny...my fault homey...had some BIDNESS to take care of. But you are so right. A dictator they have been trying to get at for years has has a trial over and done with. This is getting ridiculous.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: I said what I meant and meant what I said. There's enough blame to go around and there's obviously some reason why this case has not come up for trial. And obviously the prosecution wants to present a good case. If it was a slam dunk, then this game would have been over a long time ago and all those things I've alluded to in my posts could be the reason this case has not come up for trial yet. The rest of us will just have to let due process run its course. But khufu, to answer your question, if a minor thinks he or she is grown enough to hang with grown folk and goes behind her parents or guardian's back and put herself in a position to being exploited, then what I think about it does not matter. The choice was not mine. It's not a perfect world and we must all bear responsibility for the choices we make. Me, You, R. Kelly, the parents, the girl.
Name: khufu
Comment: any woman on here been sexually abused as children? or men for that matter?
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: It also depends on the parents. Per that one boy who parents opt not to go to trial, the teacher who had sex with him was set free with NO jail time.
Name: khufu
Comment: age is not only determined by how long you been on the planet but also MENTAL CAPACITY....a 12 year old..really now? How man of you really think that a 12 year old knows what they are doing if they "consent" to have sex with an adult?
Name: coneyi
Comment: Greg...excellent point! Very well said.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Greg: "It seems as if you're just pointing out that although Kelly shares the ultimate responsibility for committing the heinous act...." You may not see the "enough blame to go around"..but at the least you should be able to see that the reference "I" made re: who was responsible for committing the crime lie w/Kelly. Thinking rationally, it's impossible for you to miss it. Kelly did not find her at a concert..someone took her lil azz to where she shouldn't have been. So, whoever took her was wrong, the people present were wrong, the perpetrator who committed the act was wrong, those who've remained silent were wrong, those who watched child porn are wrong..and the list goes on. Everyone who didn't stop the act were complicit! That is why there is enough blame to go around.
Name: khufu
Comment: parents who allow sexual exploitation to their childen shoud be azz whipped as well.....unfortunately not all parents are of sound mind either...and a lot of them think sexual abuse is okay....come on now...LET"S GET REAL: how many of yall KNOW of sexual abuse in your family somewhere and it's one of those shhhhhhh things?
Name: khufu
Comment: musbdherbs damn I agree with you!!! The world IS going to end on the 6 6 06 coming up! LOL
Name: Greg
Comment: If you look at the facts, R. kelly himself isn't accepting responsibility for his actions. He's not trying to share blame with the child and the parents. His stance is that it's not him on the tape. Going behind your parents back does not make it ok for an adult to have sex with a minor. We need to stop trying to cloud the issue and stick to the facts. R. Kelly, an adult, is on tape having sex with a minor. Illegal. I believe the minor was related to Sparkle. Since Sparkle had a business/personal relationship with R. Kelly, it is not out of the ordinary to allow the child to have gone to the concert. Someone said Sparkle was a minor when she started working with R. Kelly. If nothing happened to her, why would she, or her family, think there would be a problem with this child going to the concert? Comparing a childs decision making skills to that of a grown man is an injustice.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Khufu..I had sex w/my teacher's assistant when I was just about to turn 15, it continued until I was 16. So, yes I guess you can say I was abused too. I know of at least three cases where it's been on the shhhhh thing. Somebody on this boards actually agrees w/me...WOW! I need a drink and a *cough*
Name: khufu
Comment: listen: children who are sexually abused usually become dysfunctional adults...the next time you have a bad azz relationship....consider
Name: khufu
Comment: im sorry i still say all the adults who are complicit need their azzes whipped straight up Fkkk the legal system
Name: khufu
Comment: musbdherbs..who initiated it? you or the asst? how old was the asst?
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: Greg, this didn't happen at a concert. And this was not rape. This was a minor and an adult who willingly participated in having sex while being videotaped. The wheels of justice turns fast for some, but slow for others. I just believe that there is SOMETHING preventing this from going to trial and if and when you call witnesses, they better be credible or he's gonna walk. So everybody involved may not be credible [her parents, the girl, for example] and perhaps would not come across well at trial. The prosecution not only want to bring this trial they want to WIN it. But they need credible witnesses, because obviously the tape itself is not enough.
Name: Greg
Comment: musbdherbs - You say there is enough blame to go around. Blame for what? Blame for the actions of R. Kelly. Take away the action and you take away all others involved. R. Kelly has sex with minors. That is not the parents fault or the kids fault. That is R. Kelly's fault. Anyone would have to be blind not to see that. The fact that he doesn't find the kids himself doesn't take the blame away from the fact that he has sex with them.
Name: khufu
Comment: REALU...In your satate, can a minor LEGALY have consentual sex with an adult? that's the legal question.....in most cases, i dont care f the minor wrote their consent on a damn contract, it's illegal and morally and legally: you really dont have a problem with a grown azz man screwing your 12 year old daughter or sister if your daugher or sister concented? better yet: would you offer your daughter or sister up to a grown azz man if he offered you some money?
Name: YLawdY
Comment: I'm all late, but IMO the word rape needs to be removed from the equation. Rrrr had sex with a minor which is illegal. She shouldn't been there, he shouldn't have been doing her there. He is wrong, but as one who has seen the tape...girlie was a pro I don't care how old she was.
Name: khufu
Comment: DANG MY TYPING IS BAD: REALUV...In your STate, can a minor LEGALLY have consentual sex with an adult? that's the legal question.....in most cases, i dont care if the minor wrote their consent on a damn contract, it's illegal...as for the morality and ethical nature: you really dont have a problem with a grown azz man screwing your 12 year old daughter or sister if your daugher or sister concented? better yet: would you offer your daughter or sister up to a grown azz man if he offered you some money?
Name: Greg
Comment: realuvbaby - This is rape. An minor cannot give consent for sex. It is statutory rape. I apologize for my location error. I thought people were saying this happened at a concert. I haven't seen the tape, and don't plan to. I'm not into kiddie porn. Even if a child initiates sex with an adult, it is still rape. The child may or may not know better. The adult ALWAYS knows better.
Name: Angel
Comment: realuvbaby - According to the law, a minor can't consent to sex, so it's rape regardless of whether the minor says yes or no. I'm not quite sure why you keep emphasizing the fact that she consented when that's irrelevant.
Name: khufu
Comment: REALLUV...how old are you? would you have sex with a minor?
Name: Angel
Comment: So realuvbaby - If you found out that some grown azz man screwed your 12 year old daughter and you confronted him about it and he said "Your daughter said it was ok" would you just say "Oh, my bad!" and just forget about it?!? If you are a responsible parent, your next call would be to the police BECAUSE IT'S RAPE regardless of what your daughter agreed to.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Greg..I can't explain anymore than I already have. None of which, will satisfy. Therefore, just read ALL of what for it's understanding..not just the because u disagree. If that doesn't put things into perspective.... Khufu..she initiated the 1st one...the 2nd time was on me...the 3rd time was too late for her to back away cuz I said I would tell it. I can honestly say it I don't think it has affected any of my relationships at all. Well, I take that back. Because of the abuse I suffered, I do have a thing for women w/flat stomachs, nice feet, cuppable breastisess (but not too big), and those who give great head. I struggle w/those who do..so yeah I do get ur point. ANGEL...waddup...actually the next call should be to police ONLY to inform them that you've committed a crime..lol
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: realuv..i'm tryin to stick w/u..BUT legally, having sex w/a minor is rape. Of course, as a child and now as an adult, I don't think I was raped but "legally" I guess I was. But lawd..lawd...Ms. Davis..Ms. Davis..where art thou?
Name: Gemami
Comment: There are some really interesting comments… but I would like to add my two cents. I agree with those who say that although this girl is “adventurous” R. Kelly raped her (statutory rape). About repentance, from R.Kelly’s music alone you can tell the boy’s severely conflicted. Lastly, let's not forget Kel's married and from my knowledge was married when the tape came out. For those who stauntly support him, especially woman, really think how this man RESPECTS women -- from his music and (from what we know of his) life reflects the fact that he doesn't.
Name: Angel
Comment: musb - you dayum right!! LOL and yes you were rape. Did your momma know that some woman took advantage of her baby?
Name: OSUN
Comment: Musb on that third time you coerced her, you are technically a predator.
Name: Thunny
Comment: LOL Damn Herbs! You lucky sunovabytch!! When I was about 11 the young woman who watched me when my mom was out would let me suck on her boobies and and all that good stuff! She was the best baby sitter I ever had!! LOL!!!!!!!!!! And I do not consider that rape, although the courts would probably recognize it as some sort of abuse. I only have good memories of it and I don't think it's ruined any of my adult relationships. The girl was the daughter of one of my mom's co-workers. Sometimes I'd go to her place in Brooklyn and it was all to the good!
Name: kbig
Comment: Not many people have seen the tape with the underage girl in it unless you work in the media or with the law offices associated with the case. Why? Because if you had seen it or owned it, you would be committing a federal crime for being in possession of child pornography. That DVD compilation that everyone has seen and heard about does NOT include the videotaped act that is at the heart of this case. So we need to get that straight. No one can say that this 14 year old girl is "a pro" and all that shiite because you haven't seen it. So if it's a crime to even own it or have the tape, then that tells you that the allegations are serious. His record company (Jive) denied it was him in the beginning; his own brother said R. offered him money to take the fall for him; where the fu*k is Sparkle. Her career is nowhere and you don't hear nothin' from her. Gag order? Now come on. R. Kelly was able, via money and lawyers to silence Aaliyah over the matter with her and a lot of these cases. He has a pattern of it. But if you have seen the video, R. Kelly is setting up the camera ( his di*k hits the lens, so that's him) and everything. If you put a 14 year old girl with a fly weave up on some speakers in your home studio and she's cute or provocative, she is a MINOR and as an ADULT, R. Kelly or any other adult should have the sense and control to say no. You don't set up a camera and defile a girl like that. Did you see any condoms? Did you see any concern for the child? No you don't because he felt above the law and if it can be proved, he needs to do some time and try some of that freaky prison sex. I'm sure the men there with 14 year old children will love to show him how R. Kelly reminds them of their Jeep. Don't make excuses for an adult who knows better. The only reason a grown man has sex with a minor is to control the kid. It ain't about love or being 'fast' or being a groupie: it's about control. He was the adult and that's it. And the shi* is on tape? The Illinois court let R. Kelly go on tour and everything. Maybe they just wanted the taxable income on his azz before he goes to jail. It's not a joke and I think he's as sick as Michael Jackson, except there's no excuse for R. Kelly. There's more than enough adults willing to go to bed with that unskilled, sweaty, urinatin' piece of shixxx and that's who he should have kicked it with.
Name: Greg
Comment: musbdherbs - You say the 3rd time she couldn't say no or you would tell. If there was nothing wrong with what you had done why is telling what happened a threat? Your threat shows that you knoew it was wrong, because you knew it was not supposed to get out. Actions speak louder than words. Your actions are speaking MUCH louder than your words right now!
Name: beegirl
Comment: I'm all late too, but I don't understand why some people keep talking about the young girl's performance in the video as making R. Kelly's actions justifiable (it grosses me out that some people, after hearing that R. Kelly was on tape having sex with a child, actually still watched it, but I digress). Who's to say she wasn't under the influence of some feel-good drinks or drugs and was doing her damndest to impress a celebrity who was showing her some attention? In any event, having sex with a minor is against the law, and for good reason. At 13, I thought I was grown in some ways (not sexually), and would rebel, and thought I knew what I wanted and that I was old enough to make my own decisions, but looking back, I didn't know my azz from my elbow. R. Kelly, on the otherhand, if he did do this, should have known better. I mean, after these allegations came out, he still started calling himself the Pied Piper and named his album The Chocolate Factory. How disgusting is that?
Name: khufu
Comment: THUNNY it may seem funny but iit isnt...you were sexually exploited...see, it happens lot in the Blakc community but we ignore it or rationalie it...it was rape not molestation when there was actual intercourse...RAPE...now for all the obvious reasons we process the female adult exploiting the male child differently than the male adult exploiting the female...I will never ever forget the....
Name: Thunny
Comment: And by naming himself andf his album that, beegirl, he was basically thumbing his nose at the allegations and demonstrated zero respect for the seriousness of sexual child abuse.
Name: khufu
Comment: GOOD TIMES epidse where the parents found a tectbook or novel on sex and they assumed it was Thelma's...the dad was livid and he wanted to whup some azz...but whe they found out that it was JJ's...he was a proud as a peacock...That's my boy he said......The momma said...well, if it's yo boy. somebody's girl is out there with JJ......
Name: khufu
Comment: now there are some countries and cultures where ou can either marry a "minor" or have sex with minors....so if it is permissible legally in a country...if R Kelly did it in that country, would he be wrong in your eyesight? now it is a question of morals and ethics......
Name: Thunny
Comment: khufu, I never had sex with her! She was still a teenager herself. I was always a horny kid and I guess she was horny too so we just did what we wanted to do to eachother without going too far (in our estimation). I remember my older brother was so jealous of me! LOL I would be kissing on chicks in my elementary and junior high schools anyway so what my babysitter and I did was not completely foreign to me. Plus I had recently seen Risky Business and Porky's so I thought I knew it all! LOL!! Wow, this is bringing back great memories!
Name: khufu
Comment: THUUNY that brins up an interesting question: If pne kis is 12 or 13 and another is 17...would one consider that wrong?
Name: khufu
Comment: and the last thing b4 I leave....some of these kids are out of control...visit Blackplanet and look at the pages of some of these 15 and 16 year olds...and you know what, they would give you the sexx in a minute...but AS RESPONSIBLE ADULTS ONE SHOULD KNOW BETTER>>>TELL THEIR DAMN PAREBNTS and if they are out of their minds...TELL DFACS......
Name: Thunny
Comment: At this stage in my life I would say a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship between a 12 year old and a 17 year old is wrong. Illegal, no, but wrong in my eyes. A 14 year old and a 17 year old is pushing it too, but then again that's a HS freshman with a HS senior, so it's not unheard of. It's such a general question though because not all 12 and 13 year old are alike, just like not all 17 year old are alike.
Name: kbig
Comment: It doesn't matter if the kids would give you 'sexx' in a minute. Let them give it to someone their own age then. No adult needs to step in and help them with their hormones. MySpace is a lot of teens too and that's precisely why I'm not on there---what do I as a 30-ish male care about 15 year olds going to the mall or drinking Tang and vodka? The adult does know better. That's the way it is.
Name: shan
Comment: People need to stop blaming the child and blame R. Kelly's sick pedophile %*$! He should've BEEN in prison for his crime(s). That poor girl (and others) is probably very emotionally warped by his abuse. Personally, I think that anyone who molests a child should be locked under the jail FOR LIFE, with no chance of parole. And depending on the circumstances, be put to death over it. Because molesters help ruin young, innocent minds and lives.
Name: YLawdY
Comment: kbig...if what you say is indeed true, then I am much relieved that the tape I saw wasn't of the alledged victim in this sordid drama, cause there is no way you would know, without being told, that she was underage. As far as knowingly watching a pedophile at work, I'm sure there are others like myself who saw this video when it was only "Ooh have you seen Rrrr's sex tape?" having no knowledge that there was any juvenile involved. That all came later.
Name: YLawdY
Comment: thunny...are you a breast man now?
Name: Thunny
Comment: I've been a breast man for as long as I can remember. My girl tight now has some nice juicy perky ones and that has always been a prerequisite when I try to holler at women. And probably as a result I like to slob chicks too. But boobs always take precedence, almost to a fault!
Name: kbig
Comment: YLawdY...at the time that the story broke, in 2001, there was someone from the Kelly camp that was sending copies of one of the alleged tapes. It wasn't a music video screener (those are 5-10 minutes long). It was a regular, unlabled 120 minute tape that most people threw in the trash. This is how a lot of the news media got wind of it: through leaked tapes. So that tells you that someone close to this situation a) stole and duplicated the tape and b) wanted, perhaps, to stop him. Now what the courts are doing with it is another matter, but you would think that you could subpeona R. Kelly and make him say who this underage girl is and then get her testimony. It's not only that it's statutory rape but also that it was committed to video. He filmed it with his own camera. This is an Illinois case and I'm really surprised they're letting it slide so long. I lived in Chicago and went to school there and trust me, if this was any other brother or a garbage man taping himself with middle-school girls, they'd be under the jail. I don't get it.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Angel..lol. Actually, I never told her. My siter probably has though since I told her about two years ago. Now of course, ALL of my friends knew..lol Lol@OSUN... Thun..I know we prob had sex maybe 1ce/month for a lil over a year. She even cried but didn't stop. Every now and again, I feel bad cuz it bothered her...but I was all gud. hehehee! Greg...*sigh* having sex in the pastors office at church is wrong....having sex in your parents bed/bathroom is wrong but neither of those is illegal. Neither of which, I would want any adult to know about. Somewhere between your 1st and last sentence is a relevant argument. Forgive me, but can u make your point again? Thun...do u like double digits? OMG, I was fooling w/this girl once who had some tig ol bitties!!!! Must've been like a 48 or so DD if not larger and sweet geezus those bad boys would have me coming up for air. the larger the breast the more I like to titty fk 'em..ROTFLMMFBAOWSAB!!!! Fast Times at Ridgemont High!!!!!
Name: YLawdY
Comment: It obviously had to come from the inside. How else did it leave the house? Guess Rrrr thought what goes on at the house, stays at the house. Wrong.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: At one point in time in this country, LEGALLY, a black man was 3/5ths of a man, but was that a true %*$essment of the black man? No. Legally, yes, she was being raped because a minor could not give consent, but she did so by willingly involving herself and I believe that's one of the reasons why they are having a hard time proceeding. If she were to say: YES, HE DID THIS TO ME, NO, I DIDN'T WANT IT DONE, YES I WAS SCARED OF HIM, YES HE WAS POWERFUL AND PERSUASIVE. YES,HE HURT ME. Yet she, nor her family has said none of the above. If her family won't prosecute, then why we getting all mad? Both of them were just way out of line, in my opinion. We could go for days with the what ifs, but it really doesn't speak to the delays in this case. I was not blaming the victim, I was just saying that she bears some responsibility and she may be the reason this case is not proceeding. After all these years, she still has not come forward, for reasons known to her and her family, and I believe this is hindering the prosecution's case. So, having said that, I think we pretty much beat this dead horse but good. Good nite y'all. It was nice chatting with you all today.
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: YLawdY>Someone probably got sick and tired of his freaky ways and decided to expose him for the pervert he is. Someone mentioned "Where is Sparkle earlier" Well, early on she was singing like a bird on the TJ morning show about the girl being under age. I guess along the way someone found a way to shut her up.
Name: Thunny
Comment: Herbs, I think I got you beat. Just last year I got with this chick in DC with 44 HH boobs. Yes, double H my nig! Of course she was a bit chunky, as is to be expected with such dynamic proportions, b ut it was all worth it! That chick's boobs were so big she practically had two pairs of knees! And the head game was just crazy, as I've found is true with most chunky/overweight, self conscious women. I can't believe you blackmailed your way into that woman's azz!! That is classic man! I swear I've always had respect for you but that respect level has just been raised a whole bunch of notches!!! LOL!
Name: Greg
Comment: Like I said earlier - we need to stop clouding the issues. 3/5 of a man has NOTHING to do with this case. Whether she wanted to or didn't want to is irrelevant. She was too young to get a license, get drafted, buy a drink, buy cigs, get into any club or do anything else associated with being an adult. Since the case is ongoing, I don't see this as a dead horse or issue. The reason the victim doesn't bear resonsibility is the fact that she didn't commit a crime. You yourself call her the victim! You sound like you think women who get drunk deserve to get raped.
Name: kbig
Comment: realuvbaby has probably left the building but I will say that why is the burden of a legal procesion on the back of this 14 year old girl. She is the reason it's being delayed? Don't think so, bruh. For one, it's not up to to her. Look at the Jackson case where the teenager most definitely didn't want to testify. It is not on the back of a teenager who probably doesn't even have a passport, much less millions, to take down R. Kelly by herself. It's the state vs. R. Kelly, not 'Anonymous 14 Year Old Girl.' The state would sue on her behalf for a crime committed against her. Sure, she might be embarrassed or dealing with emotional pain, but she was not the only alleged victim; Kelly has already settled similar cases before and there are counts against him. So wherever you fall on this, think about the logistics. If it were up to the average victim vs. a celebrity, the celebrity's financial wealth would bankrupt you before you could even see a judge. It's the State of Illinois's job, not hers. If this was happening in L.A., it'd be over with.
Name: Angel
Comment: Musb - I'm sure your momma would've whooped Ms. Davis's azz for violating her baby. LOL
Name: OSUN
Comment: Thunny if you got with a girl with 44 HH breasts then that means you were with a fat girl and I just can't imagine you with one by your past posts. That would make her circumferece around 44 inches excluding her arms and that is wide buddy. Are you sure that was her size, you to MUSB. Or did both of yall do the Testic and give a big girl a try.
Name: OSUN
Comment: Oops Thunny I didn't read your entire post, I was just shocked that you did that.
Name: Angel
Comment: Thunny & Musb - Y'all are some pitiful horny toads (i.e., typical men). LOL
Name: polodonny
Comment: If she was only thirteen that says alot about the size of certain parts of his body. What pleasure can a grown man get out of someone that age except loving to inflict pain
Name: Thunny
Comment: OSUN, she was not skinny, that's for sure, but she was not fat or obese either. Her tits were just tremendoulsy huge, that's all. She had a really big head but her arms were not big. She didn't have big pockets of skin on her elbows or anything like that. She had no azz either. She just had the biggest natural rack I have ever seen in person that's all. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity that I had to take advantage of! Something to tell my grandchildren about! LOL
Name: Greg
Comment: Angel - Musb said he blackmailed a girl into having sex with him and Thunny said he respects it. PLEASE do not confuse these action or opinions with "typical men". I truly cannot understand how this became funny to some people. I do not think my opinions are better or worse than anybody else's, just different. I don't agree with all of the things that have been said, but I don't have a problem with people expressing themselves. On this message board, all we have to go by is what you write.
Name: Thunny
Comment: Greg, get a sense of humor, you damned wet blanket! It's not funny to you to know that a 15 year old blackmailed a woman into having sex - sex that she initiated first? You must have a very dull life. Me? I'm about to leave work and go kick it and look for more big boobie broads in this great city called New York. I recommend you do the same whetrever you are and do something to put a smile on your face. Holla! Have a good weekend Angel - thank you for understanding!
Name: JamerDelta
Comment: realuvbaby, I am SO very, very, glad that you are not in my family and no child related to me has any contact with you. As for Thunny and musb, yes, it has affected you. I find that many men are sexualized at young ages and usually they end up having certain issues usually around objectifying women and its certainly been shown on this board by you two many, many times.
Name: Angel
Comment: Greg - It's called a joke! If you have seen the interaction between myself, Thunny and Musb in the past, you would have recognized it. And for the record, Musb, as a child, blackmailed a grown azz woman molesting him, so she gets no sympathy from me. But no, Greg, I do not seriously think that all men blackmail....but they do turn into some pitiful horny toads when they get together and discuss their escapades. I have 4 brothers, so I should know...but I'm sure you and your male friends are not like that. I'm sure y'all get together and discuss how great women's personalities are and how you thank God for their virtue (yeah right!!!!). LOL
Name: Greg
Comment: Angel/Thunny - I truly hope that blackmailing women into bed is not what passes for mackin where you two come from. Angel - where is the joke? Musb said he did it and Thunny said he respected it. Thunny defends respecting it. Where is the joke? Thunny - If not finding blackmail for sex or statutory rape funny means I have a dull life, then so be it. Angel - My friends and I do discuss women when we get together, but NONE of them are minors.
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: Greg> You said "If your parent's sent you to the store, should they be responsible for getting raped". The answer of course is "NO". Now, On the other hand these young ladies didn't go to the store. They went to the home of a Thirty Something year old MAN! And those very same parents was trying to settle out of court for a nice hefty sum of money!
Name: Angel
Comment: Greg - Who discussed wanting to get with minors as adults?!? What are you talking about?!? Musb was the child. The woman he blackmailed was an adult MOLESTING HIM. I'm not quite sure where you are coming from.
Name: dakoolestkat
Comment: Greg..if I may be so bold as to put my 2 cents in..i think the joke or at least the implied joke was Musb's teacher trying to play him but getting played herself..and Thunny gettin off to some phat chick with tig ol bitties..I've only recently starting posting to the board and from what I can tell you can't take everything people say on here at face value(most of the times)...sometimes it's just for shock value
Name: Greg
Comment: dakoolestkat - I have no problem with folks expressing themselves. I wasn't trippin off the fact that one person likes large chests. My concern was with someone "bragging" about blackmailing a woman into bed and someone else saying they respect them for it. That is what I was talking about is not the actions or opinions of a "typical man". Whether the victim is male or female doesn't really matter to me. Sex with a minor is a crime either way.
Name: shulamite
Comment: Wow. Thunny and musbdherbs... you guys are a poster people for why folks should home-school and limit the number of relatives given unsupervised access to their kids. It is academically interesting to me from a gender perspective that y'all can see some humor in your conquests, but that really is sick. And, musbdherbs, what your teacher did to you IS a crime, whether you suffered from it or not. Yuck. I'll remember this thread the next time I'm approached by a man for sex. What you all have said is just plain disrespectful to the women you got involved with.
Name: shulamite
Comment: Greg --> your comments are very well taken...
Name: bigboyhighflyer
Comment: I think it's been proven that kelly has unsavory desire for little girls.But you kmow who the court systems is. Anything could happen. Kelly will pay his own price with karma.Convicted or not he will still pay. Everybody has to pay.
Name: Lovely
Comment: Just to give my 1 cent... When I was like 13 or 14 I went to a New Edition/BBD/Keith Sweat/Bobby Brown/Buy concert with my best friend (she was also 13 or 14). After the concert was over she told her older sister (who was like 19 or 20) to leave us and that we would get a ride with one of our other friends. Well, that's the exact opposite of what we did. She made it her personal mission to get us backstage and declared that she would 'f*ck whoever she had to' to get us backstage to meet the guys. I was terrified out of my mind and asked to use a phone so I could call my dad to come get me. My friend stayed and ended up having an escapade with a bodyguard and some miscellaneous guy and she NEVER DID meet the singers. All she got from the experience was a BBD T-shirt and a bottle of Crown Royal that she brought to school the next day. There are plenty of men out there who are willing to exploit a child (no matter how 'willing' the child appears). I definitely do not condone this behavior but I've seen it happen. (How does this relate to Kels? I don't know... just left Happy Hour and I'm trying to watch the game and type at the same time).
Name: KayKay
Comment: Speak, JamerDelta...i was thinking the EXACT same thing !
Name: KayKay
Comment: I am constantly amazed and saddened by how Black women will turn on each other, blame each other, and generally not support each other. This whole thing about this girl "not being an amateur", "knowing what she was doing", "having experience", being a "fast azz" (those things aren't all being said here today, but i've seen them regarding this girl on these boards in the past) is ridiculous. What no one wants to realize is this: if she is "experienced", who taught it to her, and when ? If she was 13 when this happened, and she looked so "experienced" (i haven't seen the tape), where did she learn the behavior, and who exposed her to sex before the age of 13 ? Somewhere along the way, this girl was molested, and i think it was before R. I'm curious to know what the rest of her family is like, especially seeing how she was brought to the studio by female relative. The other problem is with the criminal justice system itself. The case is probably not 'clear-cut'; child-molestation cases rarely are unless there is DNA evidence, or a murder involved. The other problem is sentencing. Child predators (let's call them what they are) are rarely sentenced to long sentences, and when they are, they oftentimes parole out early. They are then put back on the streets to abuse another child. Chemical castration only works if they come in to get the shot. They cannot be rehabilitated.
Name: mamawoo
Comment: Rkelly,child porn who cares????if you really want to know,i blame the crazy %*$ parents....there is know way your child should be missing in action an you have know clue as to where or what there doing....IT'S THE PARENTS FAULT!!! KEL'S KEEP THE MUSIC POPPIN,I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE REST OF TRAPPEDIN THE CLOSET... LOVE ALL YA MUSIC, DIFENITELY THE KING OF R&B!!!!!!!
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: JamerDelta: I ain't mad that you are glad that I'm not part of your family. I love the one I'm in, thank ya muchly. I am proud of the upbringing I had because to this day I could say that I've never been abused, nor am I jealous or hateful. My family knows and loves me just the way I am. Again I say, if this was case was a slam dunk for the prosecution, the game would have been over. There's no question he did what he did, the question is why is it taking so long to prosecute. Both R. Kelly and the young girl agreed to make the tape. It was not the young girl or her family who brought the tape to the attention of the authorities, so the authorities are PROBABLY having a hard time on the girl's side, which is what conventional wisdom would tell me. If the family pressed charges, then this case would have been over. However, for whatever reason, her family is not proceeding. So that should tell us all something -- minor or no minor. The truth is probably something along the line of a PANDORA'S BOX. Obviously there's a lot going on in Chicago that none of us know about.
Name: QueenIsisMJones
Comment: I'm praying for Robert, His family, the "victim's" and their families and everyone else involved. It's just a reminder that we're all being dealt with in different ways. Ain't too many folks I know who don't have issues (big or small). Most of us know right from wrong...You just gotta stand in God and the right way to go. Life ain't easy, but who said it would be?! Be blessed...
Name: shag11
Comment: Well, Somebodies got to view the type. The lying bastard said it wasn't him in the type. He shouldn't have a career if and until this %*$! is cleared-up.
Name: Goldie1
Comment: There is two sides to every story. What you see is not always what it seems to be. There were choices here, somebody got paid big time. Was it the girl, are the Mother? There is a lot to gain here. I cannot believe a person would be that simple minded, as to take a picture of them self in the act of such nature, knowing it will cause him to be put away for life. There is more to this, than, we know. First off, let's not judge until the facts are laid out on the table. "Peace & Love"
Name: bigtyebud
Comment: Well first off I think we're all missing the bug picture. There is definately a reason why its taking so long to got trial. One of the biggest issues is the fact that this was just after a concert, where R.kelly himself threw an after party. First off, he doeasn't answer the door, security does, Secondly people aren't being I.D'ed before entering they are let in according to looks and gender. And thirdly just because he's on tape with this minor doesn't mean others are not involved. Which makes for an even bigger case. Knowing those three things, this case can be hard to prove. I am artists myself, I do concerts all the time, I always but ALWAYS have sex after the after party. I don't have the time to ask questions. Where you from? Who'd you come here with? Whats your name? How old are you? Yoddddada I mean! THERE ARE GROWTH HORMONES IN THE CHICKEN!!!! I am 35 years old and when I was a teen, all the 13 yr olds looked 13. Nowadays with the chicken the way it is, 13 yr olds are looking more like 21 yr olds. My 12 yr old sister already looks like she's 19 or 20. But just like the comments earlier read, it has to do with the parents. Just where in hell were the parents when this girl went to the concert, being that you've got to be escorted by an adult to one. And what kind of parent allows the'r 13 yr old daughter to go an adult after where liquour, drugs and sex happening all around you. i'm sorry to say, but beleive me theres a reason why the parents haven't come forward and a reason why the girl hasn't come forward. And sure Kelly was definately in the tape with this young girl, and yeah maybe she does look like a minor but how can you prove that he knew she was a kid. Looks can be very deceiving. So basically what I'm trying to say is that we can't judge a book by its cover but by the contents inside.
Name: itslove
Comment: I bet if this girl was any other race but Black--R would be serving time right now!!!
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