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nightshift
Comment: I know it's none of anyone's business but, what plans do they have for the money? Sotheby's is a reputable auction house, though I doubt they get 30Mil. No disrespect but, that's what the library is for.
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nightshift
Comment: Mix-up?? I know it is a matter of protocol but, I would have had Harry's name on the top of the list. Screw geo'. I think harry got black-listed
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shakaz0117
Comment: I agree with you, Nightshift...I think they are trying to save face.
I heard that Andrew Young, Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin, and others are trying to see if they can raise the funds to purchase the papers and other memorabilia relating to Dr. King.
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Olivia
Comment: Plain and simple: He is lying. It took him this long to say that.
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fanteeking
Comment: As for the story about the "big mix-up" Bullshyt! Anybody who'd sell African-America's greatest historical treasure to the highest bidder (slave auction in Charleston,SC?) would DEFINITELY listen to "Ole Dubya", stuff the cash in their pockets and "DIS-INVITE" Mr. Bellafonte.
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fanteeking
Comment: PS: Just think yaw, these 'kids' chose "Ole Dubya" over Mr. Harry Bellafonte. This shows where their minds or "at" or "ain't at". How many civil rights demonstrations did "Ole Dubya" show up for to help us gain "some freedom?"
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khufu
Comment: Well if this is anot a fooken wake up call to Black folks Im tellin you....yes, they chose Dubya over Belafonte. Youre not surprised are you? If you look at the LIVES of the King siblings, they only have the last name in comon with their dad. They have never been activist or revolutionary. They have never been progressive or visionary...Please....again the universe and the ancestors have given us another yardstick to both judge and be judged....Verdict: we have got to realize that the existence of our "leadership" is questionable and that we either need to stop expecting anything from them or we need to hold them accountable...publicly. Call them out.
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khufu
Comment: That is a question I raisd yesterday: the thing to watch is WHAT WILL THEY DO WITH THE MONEY THT THEY GET FROM THE AUCTION? That will ultimately determine who they are and what they are.....
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Teigh
Comment: Man this is damage control a little too late. At least take responsibility for what you ALLOWED to happen. In my opinion the King children and the Parks nieces & nephews are one & the same. Kings children's are really trifling, and they showed that by letting the whole thing with Harry Belafonte (who was critical in making sure the family was all right financially after the father died)go down in the first place. None of them have ever really had jobs, they went into business with licensing companies who are charging ridiculous amounts of money for papers their father took the time to (c) because he really didn't have any money to leave them. Why in the world aren't the papers in the King Center -- why is there a King center with no King papers -- yet two siblings want to keep the King Center and run it themselves. It's pathetic -- I'm sure many people who were there with their parents are showing tremendous restraint because of their parents are. Someone with Madea like qualities needs to rip into all four of them -- selling out the legacy of their father for cash. It would be a complete atrocity if a white person wound up with those papers....they need to take a lesson from the daughters of Malcolm X -- they fought the person who took control of their fathers papers from the storage facility and gave them to the Schomberg library in Harlem, who archived them. His works are currently on tour at major Black museums before finally resting at Schomberg where they will be available for study. Now what in the heck is a King Center for Social Justice with no darn papers....This is STUPID...plan and simple!
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bigheadbull2
Comment: I can summon Medea like qualities. This goes beyond the pale of ridiculous this is an abomination.
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khufu
Comment: one thing I dont have a problem with is if they kept the intellectual property and made money from it..that's normal. But the out in out selling is another issue. I HAVE A QUESTION. Okay, for those who understand IP (Intellectual Property Law), you can understand. Okay, they are selling the actual physical collection, right? Are they also selling the rights to his name, image and likeness? And although the collection is being sold, are they also relinquishing the rights of/for reproduction and adaptation?
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McNasty
Comment: Why even comment in print at this point? These chirren need to hang their heads in shame, selling off their legacy - insulting our elders, letting the King center fall into disrepair! I know they have the right to have their own lives, private lives but what better opportunity for a full rich life than to work and live your father's legacy?
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McNasty
Comment: Khufu they are mutually exclusive - can sell them together but it has to be plainly stated. In this case it's just his work, not the name - that would be worth - well - the King name is priceless!
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khufu
Comment: mcNAsty--thanks. I know that they are mutually exclusive. Im wondering what THEY the King family is doing? Seems to me they would retain licensing rights
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Teigh
Comment: Khufu....they need money because they don't have jobs....they need to continue living like "King" children. Martin Luther King is rolling over quoting Florida Evans "d#mn, d#mn, D#mn!!!!!" And what's even more pathetic is that they appear to have no respect for any of the elders who are still around that were soldiers with their parents, people who could counsel them on what to do...instead they are looking very foolish and trying to blame others.
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thebaddestchick
Comment: Good morning, They need the money because the King Center is in bad shape and in bad need of repairs. the individually dont have the money. The King Center was up for sale. But the children were fighting over that decision. So now they have resorted to selling these things to get money to keep the King Center open.
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thebaddestchick
Comment: The only really living the legacy is Bernice King. Again I cant judege these chirren. Can you imagine being the chirren of MLK and CSK. We think it might have been a priveledge, but to them it might have been a burden. Your father was away, you left with your mother. Sometimes both parents were away. Imean kids dont understand the bigger picture. And still when they grow up they resent the movement instead of joining it. Because in the end in their eyes if it wasnt for their father being in the movement, he wouldnt have died. Think about it.
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khufu
Comment: thebaddestchick LOL yeah I hear you but does that justify them selling the papers?
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khufu
Comment: and thebaddestchick...are you saying that you know for a fcat that they are selling the papers so they will have operating monies for the King Center?
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thebaddestchick
Comment: Again they are selling the papers to restore the King Center. They said it is in very bad shape. And the donations are not coming in like they want it. some of the children wanted to sell it to Park and recreation. But the others were like no no way. So I guess this is a compromise.
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Train
Comment: Little Marty is full of shyt about some "mixup" with Mr. Belafonte. The King family didn't want any static from the Bush folks which is why he sold out one of his father's friends. Shame on the King children for this triffling act and their stock just went down a lot of points in my book. I was in Atlanta last week looking at some houses in Jonesboro and Stockbridge with my frat brother. It's time to get the hell out of Cali and get back to the united states.
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thebaddestchick
Comment: Researching for the article.
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McNasty
Comment: Khufu I think there would be he11 to pay if they put that name up for sale looking only for 30 mil. Pray it's just papers but with the fact that these knuckleheads have lived high on the hog all these years I'm not going to be surprised nor any more disappointed when it's found out that they sold that too. I didn't read anything about them selling their expensive cars and homes (the brothers, cause I'm not sure how the other sister lives) to help save the King center. Without personal sacrifice where would any of us be - where are these selfish children going?!
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DOne
Comment: If they are selling the King papers for personal greed, then they should be ashamed. However, if they are selling the papers in order to restore the King Center due to lack of donations, then the shame is shared with the black community at large.
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jlove
Comment: I think the family did have something to do with Harry Belafonte not being at the funeral. From what I understand Coretta & Harry were really close friends when Martin was out doing his thing back then?!?!?
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jlove
Comment: I think Harry Belafonte was blacked ball from the funeral by the King family. Corretta & Harry were close friends and back then people use to speculate on that. While Dr. Martin King was out doing his thing!
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thebaddestchick
Comment: Some of these articles they are going to give some to King Center and take the rest and some say they dont know what the money is going towards. But if you look up King Center many articles say it is in bad shape.
http://www.blackenterprise.com/yb/ybopen.asp?section=y baa&story_id=94665875&ID=blackenterprise
http://marketplace.publicradio.org/shows/2006/06/22/PM 200606228.html
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...C'mon man, don't insult our intelligence ya didn't want Day-oooo, Day-oooo there cause ya didn't know what he would say...Ya didn't want him to embarras ya in front of Mr. Bush and all those other well meaning White folks...Remember this...Harry was one of the few performers who lent financial support long after MLK was dead and gone...The rest simply forgot and didn't give ya dayum dime...I just thought this was a great injustice.
..Mix-up my azz..Ya know what they're gonna do with 30 mil...After all, it's their father's papers they can do with them whateva they want...We may not agree but...One will give her share to her church...One will get a hair transplant...One will spend it on acting lessons and plastic surgery...One will give it to the arts...
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thebaddestchick
Comment: We dont know what kinda debt the center is in, what kind of medical bill CSK left behind, or what kind of debt they have period. Last time I checkd being an activist didnt pay too well and it didnt make you millionaire. So I aint judging here.
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Reds
Comment: Martin Luther King III is lying. See http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/20/14 39231&mode=thread&tid=25 Harry Belafonte: " A woman by the name of Skinner and a Reverend by the name of Lawrence was the one who called me to tell me that I was uninvited, and when that call came, I called and spoke to one of the children. They said, these are the events, and I need to be counseled as to how this has come about, and I was told that I would get a call shortly, and it would all be clarified. And then, when the final call came, it was -- they were sorry, but the invitation – the withdrawing of the invitation would stand and that if I came down, they would find a place for me in the church, but I would not speak. And I did not go at all. I did not know how to deal with that."
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bigheadbull2
Comment: Thanks for that Reds I had to fire that %*$!( that hosts democracy now. She is a sneaky snake but she ran up against the right one with me. What a joke she is and when she is exposed I hope to be the one to testify against her.
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GHank
Comment: Playing devil's advocate for a bit......let me put this question out there. Do you think children of famous people/celebrities be expected at birth to follow in their parents footsteps? I'm sure Martin and Coretta wanted and raised their children to do the right thing. I just feel that there are a lot of times that they were expected to think a certain way and when they didn't, they were criticized by peers and media.
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McNasty
Comment: GHank let me answer your question with a few of my own. Do you not take up the torch when your parents are the parents of the civil rights movement? how do you decline? is that not what your college education was for? I realize we probably put a lot of stress and pressure on the kids of the civil rights leaders but how could you not follow suit? It's a ready made job and pays hella better now than it did - must cause none of them have ever really worked!
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thebaddestchick
Comment: Everyone has their own destiny. Just because your parents did, doesnt mean you haft to do.IF you want to be an actor and your father was MLK go ahead and do your thing. Dont do it because your parents did it. Civil rights like MLK did. You got to have the heart and passion. Not because it pays well or your parents did it. That kind of position u haft to be so passionate about it even if you didnt get paid you would still do it. They followed their dreams and you follow your own.
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GHank
Comment: {McNasty} That's my point. Would Martin III would have been wrong if he wanted to become a basketball player, or an actor, or anything else? I understand what you are saying because everyone should have some belief in civil rights. But to be automatically be thrusted into that leadership role is a bit unfair for anyone. As far as the thing with Harry, there is no doubt that he (martin II) should have told Harry to be on the first plane to ATL regardless of what Bush or anyone else thinks. That's just respecting the parents wishes.
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TMan
Comment: Mix up my foot. That was no mistake they kept Belafonte out. Monthsa later they just now saying mix up? Puuullleeeze.
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khufu
Comment: who ran the king center in the hole?
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McNasty
Comment: GHank some of us are more passionate about building a black nation and the civil rights struggle that we're still engaged in. I can't imagine considering that kind of legacy a burden but then again this generation may not be made of the right stuff!
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McNasty
Comment: Khufu that's just it - the king chirren have always had control of the king center but the cute one went to hollywierd to try his hand at acting and I'm not sure what the other son did other than pretend to work there.
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imtalking
Comment: I think the King family should try and get the 30million in grant money from their 'guy'GWBush, Belafonte would have worked very hard to help in this matter im sure. Belafonte could have just put them on blast and made a little extra cash off some of the Kings dirty laundry(like people do nowa dayz, whats is his name**thinkin* r kelly brother, I guess his 15 minutes is up)but course hes not trashy like that he seem to have gotten over how hurt his was and now going shine a like light on these king kids. Nobody would have ever known just how the king children get down.*still thinking* what was r kelly brother's name?
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: I agree with you totally Nightshift. That explanation is a buncha bullshyt. Why take so long to address the issue? Everybody sees where they stand now.
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Reds
Comment: imtalking, you are right, Belafonte have too much class to do something like that. http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/20/14 39231&mode=thread&tid=25Harry Belafonte: "Some ministers who were quite angry at all of this said, “Come on down here. Let's -- let's -- We have to talk to the press,” and I said, “Talk to the press about what?” “About this. We cannot let it stand.” I said, “I don't think that's appropriate. These are the children of my friend. These are the children of the movement. Where did we let them get caught? ... And before we go public and begin to vent our anger, let us understand what role we played in this capitulation that has led to this moment, and let us try first to repair it rather than to go into public discourse."
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Priceless
Comment: I could have swore that the funeral program floating around the Internet even named him as an honorary pallbearer
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GHank
Comment: {McNasty} I've always maintained that everything you do starts with passion. I just feel that the King children do not have the passion that their father or mother had. I think they do things in their fathers memory out of respect instead of passion. That's part of the reason why the King Center is in the shape that it is in. Remember, when King died, the dream also died.
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bigheadbull2
Comment: I won't get my hopes up but if I had one wish it would be that Ms. Oprah or Bill Cosby would buy the legacy and either regift them to the center or work out a plan for the King family to keep this priceless legacy.
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bigheadbull2
Comment: I'm not playing devils advocate either( cause the devil will never get credit for nothin I do) but it has been my experience and I have heard in a few instances of children of clery ( yes I locked a lot of them up too)that one of the reasons they do some of the bad things they do is becuase they (children) sit up and watch their parents( pastor/co-pastor whatever) do one thing on Sunday and do a new thing at home and they feel like what's the difference. I always say people will listen to what you say but more importantly they will watch what you do. So make your calling a election sure. This is not to say anything bad about the men and women of God but judgement shall start in the house hold of faith.
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khufu
Comment: MCNASTY there you go! SO to the folks who somehow believe that the folks who ran the King Center in the hole will be getting this money to save it...yall need to wake up
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khufu
Comment: there is a book written by an ATlanta Journal Constitution writer about the children of the Civel Rights Struggle...the only one he mentioned in a radio interviw, who is still committed to the struggle anywhere near what his father was is Kwame Toure's son...that's Stokley Carmicheal for those who dont know......got that THEBADDESTCHICK LOL...
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McNasty
Comment: Khufu when this situation was first put in print on BAW I'm not one to cast aspersions without a little research so suffice it to say that while I admire their parents none of the king kids get more than a wave from me. They came out of college right into the king center, except for the preacher - she's the only one with clean hands but her being a minister you'd think there would be no fight when it came time to make decisions on how to proceed. For years the two brothers had a quiet feud because Dexter named himself HNIC and little brother spent the first few years yapping and nipping at his heels. Dexter didn't give up that post even when he went to the left coast for a while. If they didn't want it they should have appointed a commission to oversee it.
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McNasty
Comment: Face it y'all, these kids fukked up and now it's left to members of the black community to bail their azzes out. The fact that they uninvited HB and then come out all these months later to make an excuse that we all can see through like celophane tells you that they have no clue as to what their doing and not even a modicum of passion for the legacy left by their parents.
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BlackScribe
Comment: Good Day my fellow posters. Have any of you stopped to think that maybe the King Children are scared to step up because there has been threats against their lives?? Maybe that's the reason they keep a relatively low profile.
I can't imagine that kind of existence. But anyway, I hope
they manage their father's legacy wisely, and protect it, cause Lord knows what could come of it if it fell into the wrong hands. And you know your boy J Edgar Hoover has some deep dirt on MLK..... I mean some serious %*$!!!!!
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imtalking
Comment: <<Red>> that really shows how the older generations is so much greater.
Mind blowing.
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QueenNefertina
Comment: I just don't understand why the King Center is under funded and in disrepair. There is too much money floating around amongst our successful businessmen/women, celebrities and althletes. There are so many ways to raise funds, I mean think about how much money is spent on grills, spinners, gaudy chains and other nonsense. This is a reason many cultures do not respect ours, we don't have our priorities straight and we don't value our legacies enough to financially secure them. The Jews protect their heritage and legacy and spend big bucks to do it. We buy more houses and cars than we can ever live in or use and you telling me some of these multimillionaires can't get together to save the King legacy. As to the Belafonte issue, Jlove-I think it's ugly the insinuation that something 'dirty' was going on between him and Mrs. King and I think what the King children 'allowed' to be done to him concerning their mother's funeral, is just as ugly. I think it was politics and social climbing only. In the end, we will all reap what we sow.
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ladybyrd
Comment: I think that the King Family can invite or ask certain people to speak. I think when Harry was invited but uninvited to speak, I personally think he should have put his feelings aside. (1) He should have attended and bid a farewell to his dear friend Coretta, despite the drama. (2)The King Family I'm sure did not want it to turn into a government bashing party leaving and the speakers forgeting about the Mother they had lost. (3) I they should have paid homage to the Civil Rights Movement by letting those were prominent and those who were Martin's/Coretta's right hand man or women. The speakers would speak with a limit and with stipulations, remember it was a funeral, which I think they forgot about in the end.
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ladybyrd
Comment: ...Oh and I forgot... Martin III is lying, there was NO mixup...period!
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khufu
Comment: hey MCNASTY in case it wasnt clear..I was in agreement with you!
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Reds
Comment: <<ladybyrd >> Harry Belafonte was willing to change his speech to "accommodate" the selected/fraudulently elected president. http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/20/14 39231&mode=thread&tid=25 Belafonte: "That Saturday, Bush declared he was coming. He would be there. That Sunday, I began to change my speech, not to be rude or to be attacking, but to integrate this moment into what needed to be said. And then, that Monday morning, I got a call, and I was told that the invitation that had been extended to me had been pulled. I was uninvited."
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fanteeking
Comment: QueenNefertina: I agree with you wholeheartedly!
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Diamondlife59
Comment: The King center is in bad shape. Wonder why. What have they ever done to really keep that name alive. Every town you go to has an MLK blvd in respect to the man but the family never presents anything to the public to support the legacy. The papers do belong to the family and they do have to get in where they fit in. They arent as wealthy as they should be, but I would say hold on to the papers for another generation or so, because they really are worth so much more to the world, but greed will win out, watch and see
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