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ChocolateBrownGa1
Comment: Star is more popular now than ever. Her being 'fired' actual has improved her image.
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ImJustAsking
Comment: Last night I watched the Larry King interview and I'm so glad that I was right about Star never badmouthing that beeyatch Barbara and those azzholes at CBS. They told some STRAIGHT out lies about her and expected her to go all slave mentality and bow down. Last night Star was gracious, a little more subdued than usual, classy, and articulate. She also looked beautiful, her skin has tighted whether by surgery or by her body adjusting to whatever procedure she had to lose weight. I must say that the day she made the announcement that she was leaving the show homegirl looked absolutely stunning!! Oh yeah, I was thinking that back when Star was really obese, I always thought she was beautiful, but when they showed those old cips of her...she looked awful to me. I don't know why...
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MediaAgent
Comment: We also saw the Larry King interview last night...all I can say is, she showed Grace, knew how to answer those questions, and did not engage in any unnecessary mudslinging. Even Larry King had to go "Whew"...He couldn't even get her to crack. I loved it! I'm still not a Star fan, but she was cool as a cucumber last night. You can see that it was somewhat hard to discuss what was done to her, I mean you KNOW you are going to be let go and you STILL come to work? But I think she held back to think about the situation, I mean let's not forget, she is a lawyer. And once she got her team, thought it out, watched how ABC played their game, and figured out the media turn, girlfriend put a whammy on 'em.
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alexander1906
Comment: Minor Correction: Azzholes at ABC (not CBS). I am babble that Ms. WA-WA refuse to stick up for Jones when Rosie was badmouthing her. What business of that of rosie that Star never talked about her weight. If you want to talk about someone with weight problems, then Rosie needs to take a good look at herself. I swore she started to look like a Penguin. Let me stop!
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alexander1906
Comment: I am just disappointed that I will not get to see a Smackdown between a Strong Black Woman and a Diesel D.
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star
Comment: Man watching Star on Larry last night was some good tv, it was better than my soaps! Star basically said I'm making my announcement that I'm leaving on Tuesday because my contract wasn't renewed. They wanted her to make it Thursday and for her to lie, like she wanted to leave. Star held her own afterall she is a lawyer, she had the dates and exact quotes.Classic television!
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ImJustAsking
Comment: Alexander< ABC LOL! I think Larry King said CBS last night by accident as well. What type of surgery do you all think she had? Maybe she got the band? I think that's what Sharon Osbourne had. But then again, she may have had gastric bypass. Since it's a more serious procedure and has such negative connotations (last resort) it might be something a lot of people don't want to discuss.
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StormyMonday
Comment: I watched the Larry King interview last night as well. I think it went well, but I disagree with her about the weight-loss story. I was an avid watcher of The View and I remember when she said "Palates and eating right" were the reason behind her losing weight (because she did a segment about palates). She did mention that she had gone to the Dr. and how her weight had gotten out of control, but she NEVER admitted on air about how she really lost the weight. That's the main reason why Rosie called her on it. Then she later came out with Shine and said the was discussing her weight issue and what she did to really loose it. And all it said was that a "medical intervention" was used, she still refuses to this day to say if she had a gastric by-pass (which I don't think she had) or lap-band surgery (I believe that's the procedure she used). Other than that I found no fault with her interview.
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ss69054
Comment: I am not a Star fan but I am so glad this sista beat BW and ABC at their own game. For sure, they couldn't out-trick an intelligent sista like Star. She is getting more ratings because of this. And speaking of ratings, Star helped make "The View" for what it is. So did Meredith who is gone. The other ladies are dry as heck even BW with her stiff self couldn't pull ratings. Heck, she can't even top Oprah, neither can that sarcastic wanna-bee Rosie could get the job done. Rosie probably told ABC and BW that the only way how they can get her on the show is to get rid of Star. Boy, that would have been a good show to have Star down her throat. Sheryl Lee Ralph is another sista that don't play. She would be a good challenge. Gayle is too dryyyyyyyyyyy!!! My question is why would they replace her with another sista???? Hmmmmmmm...I guess so they won't be accused of being racist or something. That's very interesting.
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fuzzygoss
Comment: Star, bend over and tell the saltine crackers to slobber your beautiful black %*$! We as a people don't need WHITE FOLK validating us. Telling us what to do, how to do it and when to do it. ***From this moment forward, be dignified with your words and actions b/c TRUST AND BELIEVE whitey world's mission from this day forward will be to break your mental spirit and tear you down in shame. Armor up, grease up your face, replace the hoops with 8 carat studs and come out swinging wild and loose on their sun scorched wrinkle face, BROWN SUGAR envious asssssses. Am I prejudice some might wonder???? Hell-to-the-naw, but I am not one to sit and complain. Self advocation + dignity = RESPECT
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stscott
Comment: Star asked for it...for one thing with the education she has WHY can't she speak standard English or be understood? What is with the slurred speak and Granny Ga Ga talk. Speak UP Star, play your part! Star represents a black face not seen regularly on tv. Now we will be one less. She should have been smart enough to KNOW she would get the ax IF her ratings or otherwise slipped. They are not playing with her. Friends or not, it's about RATINGS, image and projecting someone people look forward to tune in to see. They USED Star during the phase when she got married to boost their ratings...it worked. I believe Star brought a cast of doubt and the perception from the public that she is bound to fall in marrying a man who all fingers point to him being GAY. Perhaps the show see "the fall" coming of Star's personal relationship and did not want to be part of the inevitable drama or shame associated with their show...WHY should Star endorse gastric if she is NOT getting PAID for it?! She has transformed herself from a morbidly obese well kept lady to someone most anyone would admire... I think Star will do better to be on her P's and Q's with the next gig. I think she should keep looking toward the stars.
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Islander
Comment: I say "you go girl" to Star! They (ABC & Barbara Walter) thought they had the hand up on Star & expected her to crawl but Star sided swiped them & now they want to CRY foul! Please give me a break! I hope that show flops. And onto Ms. Rosie she has the nerve to talk about Star being a hipocrite! "Ms. I'm so in love w/Tom Cruise" Please Rosie is the biggest hipocrite, she knew she was gay & kept "acting" straight until her lover demanded that she told the truth! to Alexander1906 LOL she does look like a penguin! I hope she does a real number on that show & I hope they're rating plumets to the ground!
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ImJustAsking
Comment: stscott< Star cannot speak standard english or be understood? What is granny ga-ga? Could you please explain what you found wrong with her speech?
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javone77
Comment: Okay Star is one of those on- again off- again people in my book. Sometimes I think she's great....sometimes I think she's sleazy. I mean soliciting free gifts for your gift bag for you wedding??!!? Come on.......I have been to plenty of weddings and have never seen one with a goodie bag. Yeah weddings are expensive but Star Jones and her husband who used to work on wall street I'm SURE could have paid for a respectable wedding. Pookie and 'nem do it all the time in the hood! :) Anyway, I give her props for knowing she was fired and still coming to work. But expecting Barbara to call you when you got fired...some people don't know until they're locked out of the computer. Star started that whole situation with Rosie because Star got on national TV and condemned women for even considering having weight loss surgery and for her to go and have it done and not even REALLY admit that she did is a slap in the face to all those women she condemend. "medical intervention" could have meant anything...pills,etc. She deliberately withheld the truth on a technicality. And if Star felt betrayed she should have rolled out back in April....no...she waits until 2 days before the announcement was to be made anyway. 2 Days wasn't going to make a bit of difference. If I felt disrespected I'd have deuced a long time before now. But I wish her luck anyway.
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lionqueen0728
Comment: bottom line is .. she cant win this ... period .. Barbara Walters is an icon at ABC.... and she might as well cut her losses and go back to practicing law.. i for one wont miss her .. never liked her .. but this war she wont win.. let it go and move on .. its the fall out for being in that industry ..all this back and forth and he said she said .. is silly they aint in high school... her days were numbered after that wedding mess she pulled on that show ..
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Winn30344
Comment: What standard english was she not speaking? Star was very articulate and straight forward in answering the questions. Hate her; critique her appearance but to say she wasn't speaking coherent is as much a lie as Babs saying she tried to protect her. Larry King was nothing but a mouthpiece for Babs and tried to rattle Star but she smiled sweetly and put his old gray azz in his place. This grayhaired mofo actually said that she should have lied or covered up the truth..lets you know exactly how cutthroat this entertainment business is.
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BecuzICan
Comment: Who cares if Star had gastric bypass surgery? Who cares if she advertised her wedding on the show and solicited free gifts/services? Was any of this against her contract? If so, why wasn't she fired back then? The bottom line is Barbara Walters is upset that Star announced her departure from the show on her terms and not on theirs. She exposed the truth of the situation...good for her!
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moodring100
Comment: STAR>>is a very smart woman//she had those dates/quotes/ down!COURT TV/talk show/
Star, never did let them put down black people!
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Angel
Comment: lionqueen - Only time will tell if Star can't win. I agree that "going off the script" typically leads to someone never being seen again, especially when you're up against an icon like BW. I commend Star for leaving on her own terms, but if this time next year we are saying "Where the hell is Star"?!? That will speak for itself, but I hope that she overcomes being fired from "The View" and becomes successful on her own terms in the entertainment industry.
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Merd325
Comment: BecuzICan> You said it correctly. That was the only reason why BW was angry. I saw her expression after Star said she was leaving. It was hilarious! And, I believe Sheryl Lee Ralph will take Star's place. She was already ask and Sheryl Lee Ralph was excited about the idea.
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yunvme
Comment: I was very proud of Star last night. Certain people at certain times will try to bring you down and drag you through the gutter. Star wasnt going there. She was intelligent, articulate, beautiful (OK maybe stretching it there) and obviously hurt, and I felt for her. It really bothers me when I see the hurt in someone's face. I dont like to see people unhappy or hurt. One thing that stuck out in my mind was the fact that Larry had spoken with Barbara- both legends in their fields and obviously close enough that they could talk privately on the phone- when he asked Star out of all the ladies who would she remain friends with. She graciously said she would like to think that they could all still be "friends". Larry shot back at her and said "with Barbara it aint happening". WTF. He could have kept that comment to himself. I also didnt like when he said that he's known Barbara for a long time and "do you really think she would lie"? The nerve of him. Hellz yeah she would lie. But what really pizzed me off is that he was insinuating that lily white Barbara wouldnt dare lie about the events surrounding this drama- so then STAR it must be you that is lying. Star although visibly ubset held her head up and conducted herself as a lady. I still cant get out of my mind the "Star chose not to leave with dignity" comment that Barbara made. It goes to show just how quickly people can turn on you. Barbara was ugly for saying that.
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Islander
Comment: Yes, BW is an icon but we also need to remember her time is basically up also! BW doesn't have that much time left in this game. How many more face lifts does she think she can get before she starts looking like Joan Rivers?! Star may not ever make it back on ABC but some network out there is going to pick her up! There is a lot of buzz around Star & she is going to continue to create buzz around her. Trust that we will be seeing that face again.
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cookyd
Comment: What am I not understanding here? Star Jones will no longer be on "The View",ok I got that are people going to stop going to work because she no longer has a job or is the general public supposed to be so out raged over ABC's decision that they will no longer watch any ABC shows? Wait I know what it is .EGO!!!
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JGGIRL
Comment: I think Star committed career suicide. Would two days have killed her? She could have made the same comments on the air. Everyone would have been just as shocked. She would have honored the wishes of her BOSSES AND kept her dignity. THEN, she could have gone to the mags and tv shows to tell her story. I notice she has not disagreed with the network over why she was let go. Her public persona is really low since she met Al and went through the drama of that weight loss. She knows this. I remember people on this very forum crucifying her during those time. I just don't think it was a smart move careerwise. She is not a spokesperson for the Payless anymore. She lost her job on the red carpet. Now she doesn't have the view. Contrary to statements her manager made, her book is NOT a bestseller. And she is "surprised" to hear that she is not that popular. Ger real Star.
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thebaddestchick
Comment: Star needed her medical intervention because she would have been dead right now. If she condemned people for getting weight loss surgery probably it was because some women get it because they are too lazy to go on a diet and do it the old fashion way. Star said she couldnt even walk or breath regularly. Her medical intervention was to save her life, not because it was the "IN" thing. And if she said she did Pilates and diet, for a procedure of that magnitude, sometime they need you to lose some weight before they can operate. I mean she said medical intervention. There are other procedures out here besides gastric bypass that removes weight from your body. Everybody assumes that because it is the "IN" thing among stars.
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MistaO
Comment: Ya know Ima have to ride with sister Star on this one. Being a man, I never really watched the show, however, there were several times I caught segments where something was going on in the news concerning someone Black and I must say, Star always backed the fam and stood on it like a rock. So, I gotta be behind her no matter what! Especially since so many black folk who are also in the publics eye sit back and say nothing or even support the bashing of other Black folk. On the strength of that, I gotta ride!
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Winn30344
Comment: Well if speaking the truth and not letting Babs and the lily white crew of The View cruicfy you is career suicide then obviously Star doesn't care. Yeah she coulda waited just like Babs could have waited to announce the hiring of Rosie but she didn't and Star didn't. And if you think Payless doesn't realize how they could have capitalized off of this publicity with Star then you're crazy..Payless would love for Star to be back and E..pleeze..they hire and fire regularly..not a big loss!!
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coesmo
Comment: I don't know..it seems like Star really burned her bridge...there's no way she can win against a giant like ABC...
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ImJustAsking
Comment: JGGirl< If I were Star there would be NO WAY IN HELL I would trust BW not to try to hurt my reputation the Thursday I made the annoucement. If they had being lying to her since November 2005 then whose to say what they would have done on Thursday? That old bitty could have done anything. yunvme< you are so right about the comment Larry made about BW being so f*cking trustworthy and not lying. "would she lie?" EVERYBODY is capable of lying, that b!tch ain't perfect. Furthermore, his commments regarding BW not ever wanting to be friends with Star again was just out of line.
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wdngplnr
Comment: IMO, Star KILLED it last night! It was indeed great television! Some of you may not like Star or what you think she stands for, but you have to give it up. She is an extremely intelligent black woman and she did not crack a single moment last night. THAT is why LK was taking deep breaths at the end of the show. He couldn't bait her into bad mouthing anyone, even after throwing all of those statements from BW, Gettie, and ABC her way. People bytched about her "lawyer" tactics last night, but did we not see his? She's not falling for it, so let me spew venom and get her to retaliate! Didn't work LK! Star brought her A game last night...bottom line!
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fuzzygoss
Comment: Ppl blow the air out your ears. It's NOT ABOUT WINNING, it's about abandoning that slave mentality and SPEAKING UP AGAINST THE POWERS THAT BE. Star, hands down is a fighter and she will survive b/c she is no pushover. Barbara hired Rosie b/f Star signed off and Star had to know her days at the VIEW were surely number. White folks favor their own kind even and moreso when they are criminally wrong. ******BLACK FOLK!!!!!!!!, we need to rise up and fight back. Stand in solidarity. Learn something from white folks. They support their own no matter what and our chicken-shyyytttt %*$es sit back and hollering we can't beat a giant like ABC...only cowards cower. ****THINK before you believe my friends. THINK before you believe We can't. Maybe YOU can't but ****HARRIET DID...WTF WE ARE THE LITTLE BLACK ENGINES THAT CAN! ***Star don't bow down. Stand your ground. You are educated and gutsy not some shrinking violent with string attached.
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coneyi
Comment: I saw Larry King last night as well. I was so proud of Star. She is a true professional. Star will be alright. I am disappointed at ABC, Barbara Walters, and Bill Getty. The way they handled this and their constant attack on Star was wrong. The quotes Larry king was reading from ABC were crazy and false.
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javone77
Comment: I read somewhere that Star new she was not coming back before they hired Rosie.
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boobie
Comment: Although I'm not the biggest Star fan in the world, I thought she did an excellent job explaining her side of the controversy last night. She spoke honestly and even admitted the whole wedding sponsor fiasco was a mistake. I was impressed. You go soror!
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Angel
Comment: Javone - Star said she was told that her contract would not be renewed on April 21 and 5 days later she found out that Rosie would be joining the show. Star also found out recently that BW called Rosie and asked her to consider joining the View right in the middle of the period when Rosie was on show after show bashing Star. That's just straight up hate if you ask me.
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wdngplnr
Comment: fuzzy> I totally agree with all your points this morning. I have always said that white folk trust in each other, and I use trust loosely, b/c they know what to expect of one another. They know they are sneaky, self serving, and many don't have souls. They also know that WE are not like that. We do things like Star has done this week when we realize that we do not need to play their game! I believe that most of us know who holds our future and we place our faith in God. Whites know not what to do with us or how to predict what we'll do next. That is why they shut Star's azz down after Tuesday; she became that black person that they could not predict.
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Bad_Kitty
Comment: Like Star once said, "If you don't Stand for something, you will Fall for anything." It is also the name of a previous book of hers I believe. She may have committed "career suicide" as another poster wrote but, that is better then selling her soul. Hurray for Star!!! I wish her all the best in whatever it is she does in the future!
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Gemami
Comment: I have some issues with Star… I agree that she should have left when she did being that her contract wasn’t renewed… but she messed up, imo, going to People before she was official officially off the show. That’s why I totally agree with ABC’s abrupt dismissal as well as Barbara’s statements on the show. Also, I truly believe she’s talking too much to the media. On one hand she wants privacy, but she has been everywhere soliciting sympathy. Again, I think that’s a bad move. She should have allowed the People magazine article to be her only official statement about what happened and let it go. Lastly, about her “medical intervention”, truthfully it’s not an issue or a big deal, however with her being so elusive and evasive it became a big deal. I do not agree with Rosie O’Donnell and ABC was dead wrong to bring her on, but Star did open herself up for ridicule. It goes back to her wanting privacy but wants everyone to notice her weight lost. I don’t watch The View, but she did say yesterday to Ryan Seacreast that she lost the weight over months and in that interview never mentioned any “medical intervention”. So to hear it on Larry King makes someone like me wonder why she dances around the issue.
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CrzyLdy16
Comment: Star was very respectful last night and told the truth. The comments from ABC and BW that were read were unprofessional and vindictive. LK was obviously on BW side but he could not break Star. I for one can't wait to see this People article, because if it reads like what Star is saying it does, there will be more egg on BW and ABC's face.
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fuzzygoss
Comment: Career Suicide??????? Another gutless comment. Larry King wanted Star to play the willy nilly game and conjure up a story that would make EVERYBODY comfortable, meanwhile Babs dried up apple face behind accompanied Rosie to the Emmy's and told Star to wrap herself around it. In other words, I don't answer to you. *****Black folks Star has set the precedent for change. And sista's better take note and I highly recommend this insightful book *****Work, Sister, Work
by Cydney Shileds and Leslie C.*** Shields....*** PEOPLE IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP....WE ARE NOT PUPPETS. We are survivors. ***HARRIET, MARTIN, ROSA, CORETTA, ALL THOSE WARRIORS ARE GONE. ****PLEASE DON'T ask MASSA now what we gonna do??? ***
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yunvme
Comment: Has it ever occured to anyone that Star gave the interview with the understanding that it would run to coincide with her last date which was suppose to be 06/13. We all know how viscious the media can be. They were like this is a scoop right here- we arent going to sit on it until next week. Therefore in the process they underminded Stars credibility. Come on now- what other reason for "leaking" this story. That issue hasnt even hit the stands yet. Barbara responded to it because people magazine went behind Stars back and called Barbara so she could respond to Stars comments. They had every intention of starting a catfight and all this drama.
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wdngplnr
Comment: crzy> I got People yesterday. The writer talks about the details of her abrupt firing, etc. (must have done a quick rewrite), but Star spoke very little about the situation. Well, she didn't give them as much info as we got on LK last night. She more or less addressed how shocking the whole thing was to her, initially. She gets into detail about that. But if you watched LK last night, you got the real scoop.
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fuzzygoss
Comment: Gemami >>>>>>she messed up????Are you serious??? Barbara was courting Rosie. There was no loyalty from Babs, ABC, none of sheet wearing devils. ****Star did the right thing. She was as someone else put it UNPREDICTABLE and white people despise what they cannot control. That is why they don't see the wrong in their actions heinous blatant lies b/c it's 1st nature for them to cover up. ****Don't be mistaken one bit...it was a conspiracy to boot Star. ***Hell white folk assinated John F. Kennedy b/c he advocated for civil rights. Don't get it twisted, the devil will cut you down at the knees. I am with Star all the way. Black or white, moreso b/c she is my kindred sista, we don't have to love her but dammit, wise up and support her gumption to stand up b/c lord knows some of us can stand a lesson in loyalty!
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yunvme
Comment: ** at the time of Barbaras comments- the issue hadnt yet hit the stands. **
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2ndChance
Comment: CrzyLdy16, when Larry made his comment about why Star didn't mention the people article on air and how Babs was mad about that I was LMAO when Star finally shot back, "What did I say in the article?". All he could say was I don't know. Babs has been so offended by an artlicle that she hasn't even read. Larry clearly had his homegirl's side last night. Thankfully Star didn't fall for any of his traps. I don't like how they are trying to get Star to say things about Rosie. Larry was taken back when Star said she and Rosie had been friends.
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fuzzygoss
Comment: >>>I've gotta stop reading this crap. I am about ready to burst a blood vessel. Star, you shocked and awed white folk the same way Dumbya Bush shocked and awed Sadaam Hussein. Enuf said about the hypocrites. Talking nonsense about Devil wearing prada...Hell naw...the Devil ain't in disguise...we already know who he/she is. WAKE UP my people. We don't have to condone what's wrong, but together we can make them right IF WE BELIEVE somehow still believe we have a long way to go and are running out of time. :o(
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2ndChance
Comment: I agree with whomever said Star had been a little misleading about her weight loss intially on the show. She did make it seem like it was due to power pilates and diet. The truth is though if you have a drastic measure done such as gastric bypass you do have to excersise and diet in order to have successful weight loss. She didn't lie about it. She was just being aloof. She was on the today show being interviewed by Al Roker this morning. She said that Al had recommened many doctors and helped her threw whatever procedure she went through. She also said today would be the last day she discussed this. I hope she honors that statement.
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EdnaMae
Comment: This is too funny! Bab's is a old shrew who needs to reitre as well! She is one intelligent woman and it showed on Larry King. And, while I still don't really care for her, she spoke her mind in quite an eloquent way that made bab's fluttering false teeth, catty comments seem to petty. Starlet made a huge mistake, she thought she was a huge celebrity, when she was an average one. But at least she let it be known that Walters is just as fake as that plastic surgery and that horrible lisp. Go on Starlet, the truth shall set you free, now on to Al......
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Winn30344
Comment: I forgot about that fuzzgoss that Babs in other words told Star to STFU about Rosie because it's a done deal and yet people are still saying she should have kissed Babs lily yt azz..amazing..Star showed more class yesterday than I ever would have because I would have used words I haven't used in years on all those yt mofo's including Larry's dried up azz.
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allonme
Comment: IT'S STAR LIFE AND SHE CAN DO WHATEVER SHE WANTS. STAR HAS COVER HER A$$ WITH
GRACE AND DIGINITY, AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
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Keverix
Comment: What many fail to realize is that old fosslic azz Barbara Walters %*$!ed off the big O when she stole Iyanla. If O steps in and puts Star under her wig Babs is powerless. Otherwise, I agree, the white brass is going to blackball Star.
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mayday
Comment: Years ago when the View was still new to TV, I really took a liking to Star and it was refreshing to have another Sista on Television. As time went on she became an annoyance and then she became just plain old tacky after that wedding fiasco. Star began to believe her Stardom and that was the beginning of her downfall. I watched her interview last night on Larry King and her interview this morning with Al Roker and she was articulate, reserved and smooth and I applaud her for taking the high ride. What I really loved about her interview is that she was able to say on National TV that she has made mistakes and she is doing things in her life to correct those mistakes and that takes a big person. As far as this feud/catfight/white/black/Star, Rosie, Wawa....I view it this way...Stars popularity and ratings were down and that is a fact, I know a lot of people that were really turned off by her and that ridiculous parade of a wedding and her lack of truthfulness when it came to her weight loss issues. Star cannot blame anyone but Star for her "contract not being renewed" and Babs, Bill and ABC have treated her unfairly these last couple of months and I believe they did conspire on how to try to make this go away nicely and bring that nasty fat nasty Rosie onto the show but Star had a lot to do with her own demise. I wish her all the luck in the future and she is very smart because that Sista kept her bar dues paid and she has a law degree to always fall back on.
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JGGIRL
Comment: The People announcement hit the internet the same day Star made her announcement.
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khufu
Comment: 1, white folks...yall keep trusting they azzes
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khufu
Comment: 2. starr should write the tell all book
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khufu
Comment: 3. starr needs to be careful becasue you know how they do....they will white ball her azz
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khufu
Comment: 4. this is one of those instances where WE need to be able to grab her and protect her...she, if we had our own sheet...we could hire her, give her her own show.....and tell them all to fook off
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fuzzygoss
Comment: khufu^^^Did you not see the interview? Star needs not to be careful. She doesn't fear that which she can see with her own eyes. Only cowards cower and retreat. The can of whoop %*$ has been popped....NEXT
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khufu
Comment: 5. how come they are not replacing starr with another sistah? are they assuming that starr's frop in ratings means that no Black co-host would work?
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khufu
Comment: FUZZYGOSS I hear you and I am with you on the no fear TRUST ME..I just hope she knows.......she may have to join the Nation of Islam...LOL...
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fuzzygoss
Comment: khufu^^^ Are you serious? Puhleeze stop killing me. Star trusts and believes in God. He was the force navigating that interview, not white folk. WE CANNOT continue to worry about being white balled...WE've been white balled since our existence. When has it ever cease to exist. ????? Unbelievable. We got a long, long way to go and only a short time to get to the moutaintop. I already know who I don't want on my team!
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yunvme
Comment: Ok I dont think this has been addressed yet, but what do you all make out of the %*$ertion that her "popularity" was down according to research. I loved it when she discussed that by just using the facts. First off she said that they- Barbara, producers, ABC were all in on and behind the "wedding" segments/topics/discussions. It was "the show" that decided to talk it up so that they could have the big wedding show. Secondly 5 out of the 10 highest rated VIEW shows were regarding Star and her wedding. ABC/Barbara/The View were busted in a lie.
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khufu
Comment: fuzzygoss..again I know that but there are a lot of folks who dont really know who they are dealing with...wcrackers are devious....I am not questioning her faith in god...however, I might question the God they say they believe in...see, Starr MIGHT not know they the crackers that she worled for taped her private conversations at home....and they would put that %*$! on tv somewhere...all I am saying is that sometimes, depending on where you are in this struggle against spiritual wickedness in HIGH AND LOW PLACES..choose your fights real well.....
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milehighbrotha
Comment: I saw the interviews with LK last night and Al Roker on Today this morning and Star stood her ground. I may not have liked her in the past but I have to say I'm behind her 100% on this situation. What is wrong with telling the truth? Thank God Star took control now and regained her dignity. These two interviews gave me a different view point on Mrs. Jones-Reynolds.
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khufu
Comment: also just from a busines tip...a lot of times folks see you telling the truth about a former employer...may think: "They'd do the same thing to me..." they dont necessarily see it as truth telling but bad mouthing and sour grapes...and truust me...Barbara has more friends than does STarr...starr should have sought a deal with someone else when she found out she was cancelled...she should have sat down with Kathy Hughes or Oprah and worked a deal...once she got her own show somewhere...then attack they azzes.......
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khufu
Comment: nothing wrong with telling truth....however: "Be wise as serpent and innocent as dove"....."To all things and time and season"...she just needs to make sure her back is covered....I hope she is doing things strategically and pro-actively and not emotionally and re-actionary....man, crackers are devious....she needs to read The ARt of War LOL
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bigchassie
Comment: KHUFU>that just might be in the works.
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ImJustAsking
Comment: khufu< If she was told April 21st of this year that she was fired, when was there time to work out a show deal before her last episode? That can take YEARS.
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khufu
Comment: Well in THE BUSINESS that's plenty of time IM JUST ASKING actually IN THE BUSINESS, she should have been talking to folks anyway...on April 21 IN THE BUSINESS if youre told that you will be cancelled..you get your agent on the phone right away.....
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yunvme
Comment: Those devils really showed their true colors. They came out and said that they wanted her to tell a LIE. Flat out. No shame. The twist they put on it was that it would be to protect STAR. Like Star said- she dont need to be protected. Larry King was a a loss for words as to why she wouldn't lie. Let me get this straight- your avocating lying like its the "Right" thing to do and making the "truth" something bad. Whats wrong with this picture? That is funny as hellz to me? The truth scares them. Like Star said, she wasnt gonna lie for several reasons. First is her integrity. Secondly, she knew that they didnt have her back, and they would only turn around 1 month/year later and say "she was really fired" therefore making Star look like a liar. They have been exposed.
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fuzzygoss
Comment: khufu ^^^again,,,,one can not fear what one can see. Star is strong in her faith. Stop implying that she should fear white folk. You are starting to worry me. It is going to be what it is going to be HARRIET didn't turn back and why in the hellll should Star??? Bring it on! This is where OUR LOYALTY stands the test of time. Again, I already know who I DON't want on my front line.
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yunvme
Comment: For some reason I dont think Oprah likes Star. I dont know why I feel that.
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fuzzygoss
Comment: yunvme ^^^ my point exactly...THEY WANTED STAR TO DO WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR CENTURIES....****LIE, LIE, LIE, LIE, LIE, LIE****. I am not a brainwashed handkerchief head. I don't give rat's assss about backlash. I've quit many jobs on my terms and when given the opportunity that's what we should all do b/c again that makes us UNPREDICTABLE!!!! as someone else put it!
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khufu
Comment: fuzzygoss.. I am not saying fear TRUST ME...I am engaged in battle with they azzes now at a level youre probably not..Im saying for her to be wise.....strategic......and as for this front line comment....you got your front line and I got mine...and if we are fighting falsehood then we are all on the frontline for the MOST HIGH TRUE AND LIVING GOD
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khufu
Comment: FUZZYGOSS I trust int eh Most High God and learning how to surrender more and more but you know what? I have a Black Belt and a firearms license....LOL..get my point? Im not saying she should fear them HELL NO!! SHe needs to fight strategically, smartly and wisely.....
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Jacque
Comment: Star may already have something in the works, remember her last words to Larry King last night when he asked What are you going to do now? REYNOLDS: I'm going to work on my new television projects. I'm going to roll my sleeves up and get right back into working on child advocacy, like I've been doing, and I'm going to continue to grow, Larry and become the person that I aspire to be every single day.
KING: So you're not going away quietly into this good night?
REYNOLDS: No, I don't have to pull out that law degree just yet.
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khufu
Comment: YUNVME exposed? that's part of my point....they were exposed 400 years ago...they did the %*$! to Black inventors and artists from the 20s to the 70s....they swindle, cheat and steal.....with that in mind, why Black folks still thinking they gon' do the right thing? Exposed? They been exposed.....Going into the situation: starr should have had a contract that gave her a fooken golden parachute.....and she should have (and I want to believe she did) been developing her own %*$! all along..and maybe she did and that's why she's not afraid to tell the truth and stand.....
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lucy
Comment: I'm not a fan of Star's either, but I support her 100% in this situation. She did an excellent job on LK last night. Why should she lie to protect ABC and The View? They chose not to renew her contract so that bridge is burned already - pluck them. This is just a guess, but here's what I think went down. Her agent hasn't been able to get her a deal yet. She heard that People was about to leak the *I feel like I've been fired* story before the issue hit newsstands on Friday. So, she HAD to say something on the air Tuesday. She'd probably planned the same speech for Thursday -- one day before the People interview was supposed to hit. She's getting publicity, and she's being dignified about it. She needs to keep her face on TV in front of YT all summer long so that whatever show she ends up with isn't relegated to the middle of the night like they do with Tavis, Joyner, Apollo, etc. around here. yunvme--I get the same feeling about Oprah not liking her.
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2ndChance
Comment: lol khufu vs. fuzzygoss......when black power collides. lol
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PEACHES4U
Comment: I agree with most of the statements posted: Star was THE professional, dignified, graceful, tactful, and her integrity prevailed. There are many people in the news industry 'white and black' that are waiting for 'BM' aka BW to get her comeuppance, and it looks like Star may be the vehicle used to do it. Barbara Walter is a lier, and a damned lier. It appears that she never was a friend, and her definition of professionalism is questionable. I too watched the Larry King interview. He is a crony of BM/BW. The bottom line: 'SISTA HANDLED HER BUSINESS.' Usually, Larry is very upbeat when he knows he's 'cracked' a guest. His eyes were downcast towards the end of the interview. He could not 'put on in for the gipper,' his friend BM/BW. It showed! What I truly loved was how Star was able to smile throughout specific segments of the interview. It reminded me, again, of the interview Minister Farakhan had with BM/BW. The more he smiled, and the directness of his responses irritated ABC's wa wa.
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khufu
Comment: fuzzy vs khufu...ali vs frazier, ali v foreman, dubois v washington, dubois v garvey, washington v garvey, elijah v malcom, king v elijah, malcom v king...and they all loved Black people...Fuzzygoss! I am the greatest! Sonny liston Im gon whup yo ugly azz...LOL ali was wrong for callin Frazier and Liston ugly though...LOL..I transgress for a moment
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khufu
Comment: seriously though I am not even a fan of hers as talk show talent but she has my supporet as a strong azz sistah now!!!!!!
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Gemami
Comment: fuzzygoss, first this isn't a racial issue in the same vane as the civil right movement. This is basically about Star's approval rating and how she was treated. This has nothing to do wiith her being Black. I think you insult the civil right leaders when you reduce their struggle to a stupid cat fight like this. Anyway, with Star going to the media it would create a hostile environment and I do agree with her Barbara’s statements. Did they “conspire” to let her go… yes, and I did say I agree with Star for leaving before her time, however, I don't think she should have went to the press until she was officially off the show. Star courts the media but cries privacy when it’s bad press. In the entertainment industry you can’t have it both way… it’s best to just remain private.
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ladybyrd
Comment: I watched Larry King yesterday. I think the interview was tough as hell, but I think STAR stayed true to who she is. She didn't hid, she admitted mistakes, etc. Also when Larry asked her who if any does she think is her friend on The View? STAR replied I hope all of them and Larry replied "Definitely not Barbara". Larry said that he has know Barbra for a long time, so it's apparent that Barbra "who lied" let Larry know that she hates STAR. But I personally think, STAR already knew that when Barbra showed up at the Awards Show with Rosie. Which was a few days after Rosie made the ill statments to the press. I don't care what ANY says, this isn't an ordinary FIRING, because these aren't ordinary people. Barbra & Rosie tried to humilate STAR and she just turned the tables. On the Larry King show she was Graceful & honest, Well done STAR!
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ladybyrd
Comment: PEACHES4U> I agree, Larry was very serisous. He let it be known that he has been friends with Barbra WaWa for a long time. I loved when he said "Do you think Barbra lied" Star replied "I will not bad mouth her, I learned from her and she is the best in the business. Which is the same as me learning Law from the best in the biz the late great Johnny Cochran, she said with a smile. I said to myself you go STAR.
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khufu
Comment: exactly professionally there might be negative impact against Starr....while she did the right thing is wasnt expedient...she should have had some deals made before "going public".....they have the power to silence her...even if she did manage to produce her own show, distribution is a factor..AGAIN I am not advocating not speaking up but I dont think Starr really knows the industry and how it works.....
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poeticalduchess
Comment: I wasnt going to comment on this situation until i saw the lk show last night and they (white people) started using the word uppity and things like she thinks she is better than/above everybody else as if to say how dare a black woman be intelligent, articulate, speak her own mind or show up a white woman!!!
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thebaddestchick
Comment: Star said she talked to her pastor and they prayed. Her decision was guided by God. This being true, then no matter she is taken care. If HE ordained it, HE will maintain it. Just because we might not see the path she is going or the method to her madness to some, doesnt mean it is a wrong one. This could have been a blessing for her.
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QueenNefertina
Comment: Pharoh Khufu be careful to whom and where you reveal things that are better left unknown until you need them...:)... You never know 'who' is up in here with us. That goes for us all. Sometimes we tell too much, too soon. I don't however think this is the case with Star. In the media business, it's all about spin and who controls it. Truth is seldom the main issue. That is why tabloids are such big business. The public loves sensationalism. Star is very smart to control how she is viewed and if going on a hundreds shows does the job then so be it. She should never let them have the last word. As to Larry King, he is the male equivalent to Babs. I thought Star handled him just right...LOL She showed them 'how a Queen do!'... I thought it was ridculous to bill this as an interview w/Star Jones Reynolds and then keep bringing up what waa waa said. I mean it felt more like Star was being interviewed by Larry King possessed by the spirit of Barbara Walters. In any event, Star rebuked the Devil and never let them see her sweat. In fact, I think it was Larry who did the sweating and he knew Babs was going to verbaly wear him out for not 'tearing Star to down' like you know she ordered him to do...LOL Something else I noticed Anderson Philiphs who also has a show on CNN kept crackin on the fact that Star 'kept smiling' and he even advertised the interview in a mock 'sistagirl' voice. So you know it was clown Star time at CNN. So she had to operate in a hostile environment from the jump. Star is proud, intelligent, strong and unbowed. Your stereptypical 'uppidity n-word' and you know they can't have that!
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khufu
Comment: why do the characters in the ad (Phone) look like Michael Jackson? That's the Devel and Witch character? That's the ad in the body of the story..........
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musbdherbs
Comment: After reading watching/listening Star's announcement, Barbara's announcement, Steve Harvey's interview, Ryan Seacrest, LK AND the today show, this proved to be..(insert phrase here) However you feel about Star, she has addressed every issue. Her weight loss, her freebies and how she felt about how she's been treated. Sadly, it goes to show u have people allow the media to decide how they feel about somebody. Forget what has been reported, deal w/what she actually said. This is why I'm always asking "who told you that?" People allowed the media to dictate their hatred Star. It doesn't matter about yt or black...if she seems to have anything, it's a belief in God. So, I'm going to assume that she knew and had accepted what the outcome would be even b4 she made the announcement on Tuesday. She's going to be villified and now isn't the time to "hold her close to our bosom" We should've done it a long time ago and thought about what made sense as opposed to what the media said. ABC gave her permission to showcase her wedding. There never were freebies. Unless ABC comes out w/more 'breaking news', the facts as we know it, should be not what statements they've sent LK or any other outlet, it's what Star said. The media is a powerful tool
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khufu
Comment: LOL the baddestchick....okay Im still waiting on your response to me question: what is your world view? LOL I understand prayer and I am sure she did do that...but at some point girlfriend you have to have a plan...a strategy....we go around oftimes re-acting to what others do and never have a pro-active plan in place....for instance, where you work right now...if they let you go tommorrow....what would you do?.....so I back STarr on her stance but after the stance WHAT SHALL THE FORWARD MOVEMENT BE? and QUEEN I hear you HOTEP and NAMASTE
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yunvme
Comment: musbdherbs said <<She's going to be villified and now isn't the time to "hold her close to our bosom" We should've done it a long time ago>>..That was a great post!!
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reflection
Comment: on the Today show this morning, Star was talking about this situation and she was very humble,apologetic but she was adamant about the fact that she wasn't tring to down them ,shejust felt compelled to tell the truth .Yet and still, she said that she bears no ill will toward Barbara Walters and the show. I think that she did handle herself in a dignified way,regardless of what has been said to the contrary,because there was a memo from the ABC Daytime producer who said that he suggested firing Star last November and they should have just fired her then so they wouldn't have to deal with this drama. I think that the way that she was treated by the show and her the company overall was very undignified and crass but as she said,"it's a business". and in business they don't always play fair
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thebaddestchick
Comment: She probably has a plan. But she dont need to blab all that on television so they can know her next move. Cant tell everything
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ladybyrd
Comment: Larry brought up the reason why ABC said they let STAR go: 1) They did a Poll and her popularity #s had gone down. Star said "Those #s did not reflect in her book sales which were very high. Here's my question: Where are those so called POLL Numbers??? I want to know what's Merideths #s, Barbra WaWa#, Joy's (I can get ignorant)#s & lastly Hasselback #s. Where are those poll #s so that the public can view them? Larry mentioned the second reason was her wedding, which STAR replied during the time she planned her wedding, those were the highest ratings for THE VIEW ever! Also, she stated that ABC assisted her in making calls & gave her the go ahead to discuss her wedding. Which ABC didn't explain to Larry. I think people who are being disingenuous, the truth will eventually will come out.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: StormyMonday, you're so right. Barbara Walters has had a reputation of backstabbin' in one year went through at least 4 assistants, so she ain't no angel either. She's a bytch on wheels, but Star contributed somewhat to this foolishness as well that lead up to this. I'm glad she can move out and move on. I hope this taught her a lesson about them folk.
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JohnBrown
Comment: You know, fuzzygoss, for somebody who talks a lot of s**t you don't know your history. "Hell white folk assinated John F. Kennedy b/c he advocated for civil rights." Can you cite a cingle instance in which JFK advocated for civil rights? No, I didn't think so.
And right on, Gemami, for your comments. Some of you folks ought to be ashamed, the way you compare a Black woman losing her million-dollar yackety-yack job with enslaved Africans and people who gave their lives to fight for civil and human rights.
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JohnBrown
Comment: PS - Did anybody see The View today? They aired an old discussion about getting fired from your job. For most of the discussion, Star was sitting back without saying a peep. Payback can be a b!tch.
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thechocolate10
Comment: I am very impressed by star. Jacque you are so right
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yunvme
Comment: My favorite Barbara Walters moment was back in the day. She was interviewing Diana Ross. She asked Diana what was the biggest misconception about her. Diana paused, thought for a moment cause she knew where Barbara was trying to go with this. Diana replied- that I'm a %*$!(. Barbara sarcastically asked- now why is that? Diana looked her straight in the face pointed her finger damn near in Barbara's face and said cause I'm just like you. I have standards and a way I like things done. Barbara was at a loss for words. (No comment from you Mothership..LoL)
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JohnBrown
Comment: ladybyrd, the Nielsen ratings for The View are published in trade magazines, so anybody who wants to do the research can confirm whether Star is right about whether lots of viewers tuned in to see the shows about her wedding. (Prime time Nielsen numbers are available in newspapers and on the web, but I'm not sure about daytime numbers.)
ABC's "popularity" polls are proprietary, which means they're not going to share them with anybody.
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yunvme
Comment: (B^tch) was the word.
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JohnBrown
Comment: People Magazine's website is having a poll: "Which team do you play for? Team Star or Team Barbara"
http://people.aol.com/people/gallery/0,,1209226,00.htm l
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Winn30344
Comment: Yeah go to the yt owned and operated People Magazine Poll as referenced by JB..that'll definitely show the truth..lmbao...
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ladybyrd
Comment: JohnBrown > You misunderstood my question. I don't want the Nielsen ratings. ABC claimed that they did an actual POLL, in which STAR'S popularity was down. So I said, Let's go around the table. I want to know what the other co-host #s are??? ABC is full of bull. They can't tell me as negative &opinionated Joy is that her #s hasn't dipped. And as boring at time & bossy as Barbra WaWa is that her #s has been low and etc. I don't think there are ANY POLL #s that were done last November. We found out that STAR was correct by saying she found out in April that ABC & Barbra would not be renewing her contract, which was the same week that Rosie dissed her. I'm sure Rosie already knew that STAR would not be on the show. Which is the same week Barbra WaWa showed up at the Oscars with Rosie and told STAR "to wrapp herself around it".
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khufu
Comment: I am curious: when did Starr's likability factor begin to decrease? and what market segment did it decrease in? NOW THE BIG QUESTION: when starr begin to lose weight and therefore no longer fitting the Aunt Jemima image--is that when her likability factor begin to decrease?
see, there's this thoery that white viewers like Black women who fit that historical sterotype....
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JohnBrown
Comment: I understood your question, ladybyrd. You may be right; maybe those numbers don't exist at all.
But if they do, they're proprietary which means that ABC doesn't have to (and almost certainly won't) share them with anybody, not even with Star.
My other point, though, was about Star's claim that The View's ratings were very high for the shows where she talked about her wedding plans. That's something that can be confirmed pretty easily, if somebody cares to look it up.
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khufu
Comment: there is NEILSEN RATINGS and then there is something called: likability quotient where there is a formula to determine the likability factor of a star/celeb......
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ladybyrd
Comment: Larry mentioned another ABC told him that STAR was Fired, Becaue she sold the rights to her pictures to People, so ABC couldn't use them. Star quickly said I own my own pictures. And the ONLY person who was paid was the CAMERA MEN at SCALE. She also mentioned that the information is at their finger tips if they would like to take a looksy! ABC & Barbra WaWa are full of it. I'm not sure who is comparing this to Slavery, but whomever is comparing the two, please don't! It's not the same, period!
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JohnBrown
Comment: Winn30344, do you think the devils at People programmed their computers to only count up the votes from white computer owners and ignore the votes from Black computer owners?
Or are they counting votes for Barbara Walters and ignoring votes for Star Jones?
When I voted, the vote was 38% for Star and 62% for . How does that fit with your conspiracy theory? Maybe they're double-counting votes for BW and half-counting votes for Star? LOL
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Winn30344
Comment: Of course the votes are for Star now..I'll talk to you Monday and we'll see.. Your sarcasm is amusing though.
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khufu
Comment: Okay I never compared this situation to slavery but I did make mention of the fact that HISTORICALLY white people in the form of businesses and corporations have always exploited the images, likenesses and intellectual property of Black folks who produced and created art, inventions, music, etc..in that historical context IT IS NO DIFFERENT......go back and read the posts...I made that statement that this pracitce is over 400 years old so no one should be surprised...nor is this a revelation for those who know history...someone said "EXPOSED" and I said, "THEYVE BEEN EXPOSED" ..we just keep falling for their hynopsis thinking they will change......when you go into any deal with white folks TAKE A HISTORICAL AWARENESS INTO THE NEGOTIATING ROOM....youre a fool if you dont
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khufu
Comment: this is really no different than what WB did to Prince.....
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ladybyrd
Comment: JohnBrown > She proved her statement of the Ratings being the highest during her marriage and Larry confirmed it. But he quickly went to another question. It was very difficult for Larry to catch her in a lie or shake her. At one time, STAR even told Larry why ABC isn't being honest about when she found out. ABC told Larry that she knew in November, but back peddled and said it was Barbra who was putting it off. Here's what I believe, They knew that Merideth was leaving and they didn't have a replacement for her yet. So they didn't want to have possibly two STARS leaving. I think that when that leak came out, I think that they were looking to replace STAR. But then Catie Couric took the nighly news and Merideth took her position which left them in a dilemma. Do we tell her now or later?? As for them letting her go when she made the statement, STAR made a great point. If they were so worried that they didn't know what she would say on THE VIEW, then why did they let her stay after April 21st? Which is when they told her.
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ladybyrd
Comment: yunvme > I remember that... they showed a flashback interview. And Diana told her that she was just like her (Barbra WaWa).
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khufu
Comment: neilsen and likeability are two diferent methods to determine what viewers are thinking
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ladybyrd
Comment: JohnBrown > I think that People Magazine #s are fair for their subscribers and those who frequent their sight. Now, with that said, Those #s would not reflect an African American view, because we do NOT frequent either. I do read it on occasions.
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khufu
Comment: for the record: walters ranks among the best and greatest interviewers: her, Bill Boggs, Dick Cavett, Donahue, Tony Brown, Merv Griffin, Mike DOuglas and Tavis is on his way
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musbdherbs
Comment: John..what continues to amaze me is your consistent 2nd guessing of Star. To add insult to injury you post a poll from AOL of all places. As if anything can be proven by that. At no point have I read where you have questioned anything ABC/BW has done. To me..that's very...interesting. You said y'day that Star bad-mouthed her bosses when that has never been realized in any interview. It's all about what's factual for me. So, can you confirm the ratings during that time period? I'm not sure how to go about looking for them. Can you confirm where Star has bad-mouthed her bosses? Again, your lack of questioning of ABC/BW even AFTER Star addressed ALL OF THESE issues....is really..really...mindboggling. It really is. A damn AOL poll? You gotz to be kidding me! Can it get any worse?
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ladybyrd
Comment: khufu> I want to know the samething. But I want to know everyone else popularity poll. I think to them STAR was a lot of fun when she was black, obese and single. Now the fact that she's educated someone is being noticed more, even though she started out as an Attorney.
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CrzyLdy16
Comment: Good points musbdherbs.
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queeniebunz
Comment: Star Jones biggest enemy is herself. She did this to herself. She did all that stuff (whatever it was) that alienated ABC and the core audience of the show. The countdown to her demise on the show began with her wedding fiasco, in my opinion. I think she agrees or she wouldn’t have FINALLY admitted it to Al Roker this morning that she messed herself up by doing all if that ghetto-fabulous begging for freebies. Y’all are crying racism but Oprah is still riding strong and the fact there is that if you give the network ratings, they will love you. If you don’t, pack up your box, buh bye! There is a way to be a strong black woman, maintain your dignity, and keep your network happy. Judge Hatchett, Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes-Norton, Oprah, Phylicia Rashaad, Angela B%*$ett, etc., etc. have all figured out how to maintain that balance. Congresswoman Cynthia “afro puff” Mkinney and Star have NOT. They throw around all of that sista girl mess and that’s why it blew up in their faces. The race card gets played way too much. It’s not a strong card anymore. And, there is too much backlash against ‘ole sista girl’ now for it to work. As others have said and Star is smart enough to know, she should have kept her piehole closed and gone along with the program and gotten herself another show. If she were really as smart as you all think, she would have saved this mess for her memoir when she’s old like Bill Withers did. Shut up and keep moving/working. That’s the best revenge. Now, she looks like a media hungry camera whore and it’s pathetic.
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khufu
Comment: queeniebunz..i agree with SOME of what you say...however, consider: "keeping it moving" doesnt always work because then the circumstances dont change for the next person coming after yu...some things NEED to be addressed...wisely and strategically though.....you cannot separate this situation form the historical racism in media--behind and in front of the camera...Starr would have been treated differntly if she were white regardless of the fiascos and misjudgements.....
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khufu
Comment: Judge Hatchett? nah wouldnt mention here in the mix...see one problemm is this: many of these over night media celebs like Starr had no real media expereince prior to their new found celeb status so they go into these situations not knowing all the fine logistical details of doing the most lucrative deals for themselves...see AGAIN she should have known in signing a contract with a media entity in tha capacity she functioned in was to secure a GOLDEN PARACHUTE CLAUSE STATING IF HER CONTRACT WASNT RENEWED FOR THE VIEW, EITHER SHE WOULD RECEIVE MONETARY COMPENSATION OR A SHOW OF HER OWN OR EWUITY IN THE COMPANY OR SOMETHING......
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khufu
Comment: That's EQUITY
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5115
Comment: Musbdherbs, we are > < on your statements. Bravo. I would also like to know why John is second guessing Star ? I sorta have an idea of why, but i'm giving him a benefit of a doubt.
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khufu
Comment: QUEENIEBUNZ..who is the "core audience" of the show?
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Winn30344
Comment: Star has never stated or said race had anything to do with this debacle. And she told Larry King last night that if she had to do the wedding freebies all over again she'd do it differently 100percent differently as a matter of fact.
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thebaddestchick
Comment: On LK, Star said her contract was not up until August. Why would they not pay her? Especially since they initiated the nonrenewal of her contract. I would think she would still get paid up until August. But is everything about money? Maybe she doesnt care?
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khufu
Comment: LOL thebadstchick...your question "why wouldnt they pay her" youre joking right? Theyre white!!!
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thebaddestchick
Comment: Yeah but legally there is a contract. How could they get out of a binding contract? Especially when they initiated this? And I would like an answer other than they white. Because that can go but so far.
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khufu
Comment: chick....actually there is no reason unless there is something in the contract that would give them just cause...for instance, her going on air when she did might very well be ammunition from them as it was against the wsihes of her bosses...that's why I say THEYRE CRAFTY..they'd do some sheetlike that...thebaddestchick...do you know what a "non-compete clause" is? does anyone out there?
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musbdherbs
Comment: Khufu..yeah I agree w/some of what you're saying. BUT, while you're making good points about how differently this would've been handled had Star been yt, u r, at the same time assuming that Star is lacking in 'smarts.' None of us know what Star has planned nor what her contract details. We just don't know. So, we shouldn't just assume that Star has nothing in the works simply because the media would have us believe that. Prior to her acknowledgments, the only thing we knew as 'fact' is what the media reported. Now that she's being forthcoming about it, the whole weddingate is much different than what we thought. Sure people can still dislike her as some here do..BUT the dislike is rooted in half-truths. THAT is never a good thing. From what we know she was initially scheduled to make the announcement on y'day. Why r we assuming that Star would've started putting her ducks in line after y'day as opposed to April? It was only a matter of two days and whatever she had in place would've been done by now. I'm not understanding the Hatchett, Holmes, Rashaad comparisons. *scratchin head*
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khufu
Comment: in america their whiteness is enough LOL joking but Im not.....
well If I were an attorney and I was working for ABC DISNEY, my strategy would be if we wanted not to pay her (depending uopn what the agreement stated):
when she went on air at another station while still under contract, she breached the non-compete clause
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thebaddestchick
Comment: No I dont know what a non compete clause is? Please enlighten. But I agree with MUS. We dont know what Star has up her sleeve. I mean just because she didnt give specifics that doesnt mean stuff isnt out there. I say she should keep it to herself because the only friend she know she has is in Jesus and Al. Everybody else could be alittle suspect for a cover story on a tabloid. Because like she said she doesnt know who the leak at the station or around her.
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thebaddestchick
Comment: But ABC also said go out the way you want..Make up a story..whatever we will back you up. See all that right there is iffy...because is any of that in writing?
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ladybyrd
Comment: She told Larry that her contract was up in August, which was news to Larry. Then he replied "You are being paid up until then, right"? STARS eyebrows raised and she quickly nodded as if she was saying "Ya damn skippy"! LOL...
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queeniebunz
Comment: >khufu - the core audience of the show is (and I'm guessing) white/middle class women who are actually home during the day to see the show. I'm at work at 11am every day unless I'm sick/playing hookie/on vacation...
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khufu
Comment: MUSBDHERBS youre absolutuely right..Im just trying to stimulate thought......I dont have the slightest clue what really happened or what anybody's contracts states..I m just mentally and verbally masturbating like everyone else in regards to facts......and Im not sure that i believe media facts are truth
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khufu
Comment: the core audience..there you go! racist and culturaly bias....QUEENIEBUNZ
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khufu
Comment: welll in closing I hope star has already written the damn manuscript about the behind the scenes...also, I hope she has signed a deal with someone for her own tv and radio programs.....and FINALLY, I hope someone has has the script in hand for Starr's version of THE VIEW to be brought to a theatre near you soon....and if not, a film then a Starr biopic for tv....
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indipindintthnkr
Comment: I understand Star has confirmed she has something in the works but has not revealed what they are yet. TJMS 2 days ago.
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JohnBrown
Comment: I'll try to answer your questions, musbdherbs, but I don't think we're going to see eye-to-eye about this.
I don't think I'm "second-guessing" Star. I think she's a very smart woman who made a very bad decision this week. She may have her integrity because she didn't tell any lies about why she left The View. If she's able to "bounce back" and find another job in entertainment, good for her. If not, I don't think it's anybody's fault but hers. I know that's not a popular opinion here, but that's the way I see it.
That "AOL poll" is a poll on People magazine's website. (AOL and People are both owned by Time-Warner.) I didn't know that I was the only person who visits both EUR's and People's websites. I suppose I shouldn't mention that I also visit E! Online. LOL
I'm not sure what you want me to say about ABC or BW. I think that ABC is a business, and I think they do whatever they think will make the most money. Unless Star stepped on a lot of toes, I don't think their decision to let her contract lapse was personal; I think it was profit-motivated.
I don't work in the entertainment industry, so I don't know if it's standard practice, but I think that it was cold of BW and ABC to communicate with Star through her agent and not call her directly (especially BW). But I don't think that makes BW the Wicked Witch of the West. We all know that BW has a reputation for being heartless (just read the comments on this page), so why are people acting surprised that she didn't act all warm and fuzzy with Star?
I've explained yesterday how I think Star has bad-mouthed ABC and BW. Obviously you and others disagree, and I haven't mentioned it since then. I don't see any need to re-hash it today.
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ladybyrd
Comment: JohnBrown > But that's the problem, she hasn't bad mouth Barbara or ABC. We found out on the Larry King show that they are reacting, because she spoke about it at all and because People cover story says "I felt like I was fired". So she filled in the story for Larry and told him he can read it himself. She didn't bad mouth anybody. So who do you think from ABC/Barbra's camp leaked that they were looking for a replacement co-host?? It was in NY Times that's how STAR found out. So Larry asked her why didn't she go to Barbara and ABC and ask them if it was true. STAR said "That's what I did. I looked him straight in the eye and he told her that she had nothing to worry about. She said then she went to Barbra who said that she hadn't heard anything". Now mind you JohnBrown the leak happen after Barbra was told, which means ABC Exec & Barbra both looked her in her eyes and lied to her. Why not tell her then??? Then leak had done the dirty work for them. Mind you, the leak came from their camp.
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JohnBrown
Comment: "I think that People Magazine #s are fair for their subscribers and those who frequent their sight. Now, with that said, Those #s would not reflect an African American view, because we do NOT frequent either."
Star's already got 39% of the vote. You want ABC to start to wonder if they made a mistake getting rid of Star? What would happen if everybody who's defending Star on this page took a minute and voted?
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Name:
lucy
Comment: Being a lawyer, Star probably wouldn't sign a contract with a non-compete clause unless they were paying her A LOT of money. A typical non-compete stipulates a certain amount of time (1 or 2 years) she must wait before hiring on with a direct competitor. So a guest shot with LK, or Seacrest or Roker would be ok - showing up as Tony Danza's new co-host would not. I'll wager that only way she doesn't get paid through the end of her contract is if the company can prove she said something detrimental about the show. Star-the-attorney has been very careful not to publicly badmouth BW, Disney or The View. The show is unscripted, so they can't even ding her for going *off script* on Tuesday. I think she knows exactly what she's doing. I wouldn't be surprised if this publicity helps her get a better deal on whatever project is in the works. Don't hate on her for not wanting to just quietly vanish to *spend more time with family* ala Kathie Lee.
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JohnBrown
Comment: I understand your point, ladybyrd. ABC and BW lied to Star. Bad, bad ABC. Shame on you, BW. But how can you say that Star calling BW a hypocrite (like she did in yesterday's NY Daily News) isn't bad-mouthing her?
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ladybyrd
Comment: JohnBrown > Even though Barbra is a hypocrite I'm surprised that came from STAR'S mouth. She has already said that she wouldn't say anything bad about Barbra & trust me Larry King tried to get her to say it and she wouldn't. Where can I go on line to get that information? She hasn't spoken to any newspapers yet, so someone is adlibbing. She has spoke with People, Larry King, Today Show, so far. The large networks are calling her for her side.
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ladybyrd
Comment: JohnBrown> That's their summary, those aren't her words.
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Name:
QueenNefertina
Comment: Just voted for Star now it is 39% Star and 61% Babs.
Here is the link again.
Star vs. Barbara: Vote!
http://people.aol.com/people/gallery/0,26335,1209226_1 ,00.html
But your mouse where your mouth is people!
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JGGIRL
Comment: Star's book was a bestseller? On whose list? Did anyone on this forum buy it? Just wondering. I am also confused about Star' statement that they wanted her to lie. She said last night that they told her she could say anything she wanted and they would support her. How is that telling her to lie.
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dede0320
Comment: I agree that Star has made her share of mistakes, but I am wondering, what did they base the popularity on?Becuase Star was the most well known person besides Mereidth and Babs on that show. I think it was tacky the way they did it, sure and I think that Star is handling it with grace, thats where your strength is determined how you handle yourself with your enemy, I think Star is arrogant, yes, but I am so proud of her and I think she took the high road.I think she owes no explanation for her weight loss or her husband;s sexuality, that is her business and her private life. I do no think Oprah should be included as a strong black woman, when she continously bashes black men, not cool in my book, but anyway, I think we really should embrace Star and stand behind her she is family, and even though family might do wrong things, we still should love them and support them, and no matter what she has done in the pass, she handled herself with dignity and grace with God. God has the final say so, over everything.!!!
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