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Willie1986
Comment: Her fat azz must've thought it was 'Soul Plane'
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missgee
Comment: It's a shame in 2006 white folks still think they can treat us like crap and think we'll sit back quietly and take it.
People that make comments like she must have thought it was soul plane don't have a clue, get one and realize the extent of what happened to Mo'nique, it happens to African Americans so much and it needs to stop.
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Willie1986
Comment: Mo'Nique was no victim of racism.
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nycGYRL888
Comment: I too don't believe this was a case of racism but the situation could have been & should have been resolved a lot quicker without having to escalate to being removed from the plane and cops called and all. When it comes to planes and "extra-baggage" it's the flight attendants job to make sure ALL is secure before taking off. Yes it was a blow-dryer but he11...I'd want answers too if shyt seemes out of order. The flight attendants were simply doing their job. If they were unprofessional about it...then yeah...Mo'nique had a right to get all up in their a$$. Needless to say, I got your back Mo as far as the boycott goes! Not because we share the same first and now last name...but because I simply don't fly! LOL.
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Selah
Comment: There was obviously room in the storage space for the hair dryer. It belonged to Monique, who was seated in first class, so what's the problem. The incident may not have been racist, but it wasn't necessary. She didn't have to be kicked off the plane.
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sultry
Comment: Monique will be laughing all the way to the bank behind this one. This is something that was blown way out of the box. Maybe a different route should have been taken. Not just because it was Monique but because it was handled in an unprofessional manner. United just might see a decline in their flights with some celebrities for a while.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Dayum Willie LMBAO...Soulplane?..I betcha she was a little teed off cus she had to pay for two seats..I think the hair dryer thing just further escalated her already foul mood...Nobody want's to pay for two seats...She had to pay for two first class seats and those seats are pretty big...I have no problems with them checking all sh1t...He11, I check sh1t everytime I fly...Nowadays, I don't sleep on planes...I watch everything...If the cat in the next seat start praying too loud and too long..His azz ain't leaving that seat..
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Willie1986
Comment: Mo'Nique should try lose some f'ing weight then she wont have to pay for two seats. Instead she wants to run around promoting her anti-healthy campaign about how being fat is all good. That b!tch needs a reality check. And if her dumb azz wants to start a boycott against United Airlines she could've have started when she was first kicked off the plane instead re-booking with the same airline. How stupid is that?
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sultry
Comment: @Willie1986-I agree that she should have traveled on another airline but Monique was on 106&Park and she has lost some weight.
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Selah
Comment: This was the first story in a long while regarding Monique that didn't mention her weight. Willie why did you mention it? If she was thin, she'd just be a thin woman who was mistreated by a disrespectful staff.
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ImJustAsking
Comment: Something about this story is incompletet to me...I'm tryna figure out how we got from "this hair dryer is not yours" to "get yo black azz off the plane." Regardless, I think there is every possibility that United Airlines treated her with disrespect, I HIGHLY doubt Monique got ghetto on the airplane, that loud mouth sista girl act in her comedy is an act. She knows how to speak to people and I think she probably addressed them appropriately on the plane. Prior to 9/11 black women were 3 times more likely than any other group to be searched or harassed on planes, but were the group least likely to be found of wrongdoing. In fact 3 black women sued an airline company based on that fact and won. If she is serious about this boycott she needs to get her people together and tell the story more fully and put out a persuasive argument.
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HoneyMack
Comment: Uh, Willie1986, why she gotta be a b1tch, you seem 2 be taking this post on Monique in a very negative matter. BTW, where was it mentioned that she had to pay for 2 seats? She was in 1st class those seats are very very roomy, nuthing like coach. Then u called her a fat @zz, is it that u don't like fat women? WOW, u r really %*$!ed at her! And she is not promoting fat is good, she is saying love u for who u are..Are you going to blast the media for promoting skinny is healthy, therefore we have actresses trying to starve themselves to fit the American believe that this is healthy, which it is not. U had better check the post on Lionel Ritchies daughter and when was the last time u saw Whitneys @zz. MAN, u r %*$!ed fa real!
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Willie1986
Comment: I just don't like the b!tch, so my opinion is biased anyway.
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khufu
Comment: First KILL WILLIE..if he is Black then he is in a lot of pain.....
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khufu
Comment: second...yep..some are still surprised that RACISM and WHITE CULTURAL SUPREMACY IS ALIVE AND WELL...she should sue them and incorporate their azzez into her comedy routines to talk about them and further her boycott.....
Now, will this in any way, negatively impact her relationship to The View? Interesting......while I am not a fan of her work, that has absolutely nothing to do with what is right(euos) and just and the sistah got mistreated and I support her her
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ss69054
Comment: As much as I adore Monique, I truly don't believe this was much about race. We can't always pull the race card all the time when incidents like this happen. Everybody just loves to jump on the bandwagon about issues about this. They was racist, they was racist -- whining. I don't understand why we all like to come together and do the "Cum By Ya" and can't do it when our communities our shattering with AIDS, violence, poverty, etc. That's another issue on another day. But ANYWAY, don't get me wrong, racism still exist but not in this case. UA was wrong on their intentions about the hair dryer and kicking her off the plane but people we got to remember that folks sometimes are skeptical about every little thing they see on the plane. Remember that over 5,000 innocent lives were taken on 9/11 and airlines take every issue seriously. And I highly disagree that Monique didn't get ghetto and loud with them and probably why she got kicked off. If a regular person like us were treated the same, it would never hit the scene and more than likely we wouldn't boycott but we would just complain and keep on going. Whatever!!!
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khufu
Comment: willie hates Black people...willie hates robust sistahs....hmmmm...Dr Freud asks Willie: "Did you have fantasies of screwing your mother?"
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khufu
Comment: ss69054...RESPECTFULLY...here is where racism enters the picture: "would a white person have been treated differently?" We certainly do know that an Arab would have gotten their azz shot!
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Goldie1
Comment: Well, I'd better strengthen this mess out right now. Seeing that I have first hand experience with UNITED AIRLINES. i SUED uNITED 15YRS AGO. WHILE WORKING FOR THEM AS A RESERVATIONIST/S.F. UNITED HAS A GIFT FOR BLACK LINING. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OF COLOR, WHO WERE AT UNITED DURING THE TIME I WAS EMPLOYED THERE, WE ALL SAW, THE DIFFERENCE IN TREATMENT, AND ALSO, HOW CERTAIN PASSAGERS WERE TREATED. MO'NIQUE DID THE RIGHT THING. BUT I WOULD HAVE NEVER REBOARDED THAT AIRLINES. I WOULD HAVE SENT A CABLEGRAM AHEAD, AND TOLD THEM I WAS DELAYED DUE TO THE AIRLINES. THEN, WENT ON THE VIEW, WHEN, I ARRIVED, AND TOLD EVERY PERSON, THAT WAS WATCHING THE THE VIEW, ABOUT UNITED. UNITED IS A VERY RACIST AIRLINE, ALWAY'S HAS BEEN. FAR AS MONIQUE WEIGHT, SHE LOOKS GOOD SINCE SHE HAD THE TWINS. SHE TAKES ONLY SEAT, NOT TWO. WILLIE, STOP HATING. PEACE & LOVE
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ImJustAsking
Comment: SS69< "If a regular person like us were treated the same, it would never hit the scene and more than likely we wouldn't boycott but we would just complain and keep on going. Whatever!!!" I believe that is Monique's point. YOU don't have a voice but SHE does. Even if it was simply bad customer service as opposed to racism, we can still choose not to spend our money where it's not appreciated. Willie< Normally I don't comment on whether someone's comments are positive or negative b/c people can say what they want... but you have called this woman a b!tch twice already and it's just now 8am. That is way overboard and rude. I'm tryin to figure out what she did to you.
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khufu
Comment: If willie is Black/Nubian/African/of colour/Bilalian........willie hates himself...and his mother...and his sistahs...and his daughters (even if unborn)...and his woman.....if he is a man....
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Smokie1
Comment: Willie sounds like a man scorned to have all of this dislike for someone you have never met.
Monique did the right thing and I do hope that she does do something to the airline cause something does need to be done.
Good luck Monique in your efforts.
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khufu
Comment: ss69054>>> sometimes as a political strategy, using the race card is most effective...even when it's not racism......see the European Jews use "anti-Semitisim" and "The Holocaust" all the time... THINK POLITICAL....
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McNasty
Comment: I didn't read this article because I heard this on Monday. I was hoping the story would die there but since its here - mo'nique found out like oprah found out that not your money nor your fame will shield you from some pasty face pointing out to you yet again that you are black! This story ticks me of on a number of levels but let me just start by reiterating that there is and has been for a long time, enough money, time, talent and resources for us to have built a black infrastructure and to have begun taking our money and our vote out of the white hoods. That coupled with the fact that not one of these moneyed darkies was checking for me before and now cause you got slapped by an ofay with that back up you're black hand you're damn near knocking down my door to ask me to boycott this shat with you. Should have stood behind bob johnson and encouraged more investors in owning our own airline that we would all benefit from. You didn't you worked, made a name for yourself, gained international recognition but some agressive whitey showed you yet again that if you're black get back.
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McNasty
Comment: It certainly doen't help mo'nique's case to know that the ruckus started because she wanted her assistant to put her hairdryer in the overhead in first class. Fukk you gonna do with a hairdryer on the plane?! She clowned, and got clowned - welcome back to the real world mo'nique - missed you *smooches*!!
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ss69054
Comment: Whatever! Since everybody so pumped up today about this situation. We can boycott and complain as much as we want but that isn't still going to solve anything towards the end of the day. That isn't going to change our skin color and who we are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't have a voice -- so you think????, she doesn't either no matter how big of a star she is. All UA will do is probably give her a yr worth of free rides and an apology letter and also watch this a letter stating that they love to have us on their airline and they don't tolerate discrimination, blah, blah, blah,. Ok, that sounds nice to shut up her up and all the other comrades. Ok, here's another point I am about to make. We all know the black dollar is powerful, I mean we are the #1 consumer in the USA. It is very known that everybody loves to make money off us since majority don't have the sense to be the lender not the consumer. So, why we as black folks haven't gotten to the point to where we should be owning our own airlines. I mean if we spend billions of dollars we can invest billions of dollars and therefore we won't have to worry about all the extras. Why??? Because folks talk the talk -- like here on the post and don't walk the walk! That's all it will ever be about.
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MsCEG
Comment: A very similar scenario happened to me a few years ago in Boston on a United Airlines flight. Can't remember the particulars now, but I distinctly remember feel being unjustly called out and when I dared to question why, I was reprimanded by a United employee and told I wouldn't be allowed to board the flight. I'm not one to cry racism at every turn, but it was clear that he didn't appreciated being questioned by Black woman. I wrote a letter to United and received a written apology.
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justmythoughts
Comment: This does seem as if she was singled out. I have seen them put luggage from Coach class in any available spot, including First class on a number of occassions. These ladies were just being Shitty!!!! I am not a big fan of Mo's but that doesn't mean that I condone her being mistreated. Come on, we all know when somethng is about Race or it isn't, it is just that "feeling" you get and ya know what I am talking about!!!! Honey, I was sitting in First Class one time and this man had a boarding card for the seat next to me. He took one look at me and went and got the Flight Attendant. She asked me if I would like some help in finding my CORRECT seat!!! I politely told her No Thanks, that I was very comfortable where I was here in my assigned seat. You should have seen her face. Now, when she asked me for my boarding pass, which was within her rights to do so, I showed it to her without saying a word and that was the end of that. So if you think that there aren't Racist "flying the friendly skies" think again.
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khufu
Comment: ss69054 how old are you?
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khufu
Comment: McNasty and Willie are the same person..they have to be!
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infofan1960
Comment: hahahahaha Willie1986 is right. Someone should have kicked her fat, loud, ghetto A$$ off the plane. Just because someone asks you about baggage doesn't mean it's racism. FATNIQUE isn't a lady, she's a bully and she's got plenty of FOOLS following her and believing her so-called "self love" bull crap. If she really loved herself, she wouldn't be calling skinny women ithces every chance she gets. She's just hiding behind her pain by bullying the people she really wants to look like. I could call all light skinned women itches since I'm darked skinned and so on. How long are black folks going to holler racism every time something ticks them off? How about yelling sexism to all these hip-hop brothers putting these half naked sisters in their vidoes and disrespecting them? How about yelling genocide to all the drug dealers and murders and boycott all the pushers and liquor stores that feed poison into our community? Instead of promoting fatness, why doesn't she promote better health among our people? Racism, yeah right.
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ImJustAsking
Comment: A couple weeks ago Eurweb had an article about how black beauty supply stores are closing all over the U.S. because Asian suppliers either refuse to ship to them, or jack the prices up so high they can’t afford to keep things in stock. If a black owned airline became a true competitor to these bigger airlines you would see a crack down from the U.S. on what parts from other nations could be shipped to the black airline, we would have less airspace, and what’s more, whites would not fly on it, and there are not enough blacks in this country to keep an airline up and running…in fact, most of the airlines these days are operating at an investment deficit anyway and that is WITH government subsidization. I’m not saying black shouldn’t try to own more businesses and the like, but the answer for why we don’t own more things can be found in ourselves. Ask your own self…why aren’t you PERSONALLY leading the charge toward building a black infrastructure in this country? Your own personal answer is the reason why…either people are not interested in that as an investment, they don’t feel they have entrepreneurial skills, they don’t know where to begin, they are more concerned with their own personal wellbeing etc etc…there are any number of reasons that we don’t have more black owned entities, its not all about blacks being lazy or misspending money. Many corporations in this country were started because whites got free labor for HUNDREDS of years, that’s old dirty money, and blacks didn’t get ANY of that. I just don’t believe separatism works, no matter how much racism exists in this country, I believe we have to work with whites and others in order to accomplish things, especially now that blacks are spread out and do not all live in racially homogenous neighborhoods.
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khufu
Comment: infofan1960 agreed.. about the need to scream SEXISM, GENOCIDE, EAT RIGHT and all those other problems facing Black folks,..but surely you are not naieve enough to believe that RACISM shouldnt be screamed out as well....
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MDhornet
Comment: I don't know what happened. I wasn't there, but Monique doesn't seem the high-strung, pull-the-"racism"-card-for-no-reason type so I have to believe she's telling the truth. Anyways, Khufu, how old are you? You asked someone else their age, but I'm curious to know how you are. You sound either very young and very naive or very old and bitter. Which is it? I try to be open to all the posters on the various boards, but you'll pull the damnn racist, they-all-out-to-get-us card at the drop of a hat. Sometimes we cause our own sh1t. It ain't always the man.
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khufu
Comment: IMJUSTASKING....I agree and disagree...first, AGREED, look at what happened to MArcus Garvey, and Tulsa, Oklahama...and any other attempt at creating an indepedent, self-suffcient economy for and by Black foks......
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yunvme
Comment: I'm sure many black people have been mistreated by the airlines. However, I dont believe this was racial. Did anyone ever watch that reality show with SouthWest airlines? They treated white people the same way.
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MDhornet
Comment: IJA, I wonder the same thing often. What'll it take for us to work together as a group to find solutions. The answer doesn't lie in blaming "the man". We've been doing that a long time and it aint working.
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FineBrown
Comment: ..used to work with the airlines--and could travel free, often getting "bumped up" to first class--but could not enjoy it because the flight attendants were too busy "flirting" with executives--and always (loudly) let them know that I was "just an employee", which often meant, I could not eat if the food ran out--the attendents (loudly) told the cabin why..I was "just an employee". Often they were just plain mean, so I avoided sitting in first class if I could help it...
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khufu
Comment: IMJUSTASKING...why is it that every other national or ethnic group can practive economic nationalism and it's not a problem? Look at the history of Chinatown. Jews do it. Middle Easterners do it. East Indians even do it. But whenever a Black (as in African American) even thionks about it---first naysayers are Black foks themselves! Interesting! Sheet, even Caribbean foks do it....tell you one thing about about the success of those folks who DO IT.....they have and practice a common culture and they have their own country....it's deep that you can visit any Chinatown in the US and see Chinese banks where only Chinese people work and they speak Chinese and all signage is in--guess what---Chinese!
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yunvme
Comment: I for one am glad this happened to her. We will get a new comedy routine and not hear all those "skinny B" jokes. She'll milk this for at least 5 years.
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Winn30344
Comment: It's a shame that we can't have a meaningful discussion without resorting to name calling.
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infofan1960
Comment: Khufu, I didn't say racism should't be screamed about. Of course it should be screamed about....WHEN IT HAPPENS. Black folks are always so busy blaming white folks for everything. If the wind blows in another direction: blame the white folks. Look at the person who claims this was an act of racsim: a boorish, overbearing, domineering idiot. But then she participated in a movie that set us as a people back a hundred years, and she didn't complain about that. It was okay to for her to play a character that unfortunately too many of us have to encounter in every day life. Why didn't she see racsim in that. Why didn't she complain about all the horrible stereotypes in Soul Plane? BECAUSE SHE GOT PAID!
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khufu
Comment: MDhornet If you know anything about critical analysis, it is essential to first DEFINE. In asking a person's age, I am seeking to define their historical and experiential perspective. Age tells me, how long they have been here...what world expereinces have DIRECTLY impacted their world view and/or perspectives and what they collective cultural value is...IT'S A STARTING POINT...now, as for applying analysis to political, historical and cultural sociological REALITY....greater minds than me have arrived at the fact that white racism, white cultural supremacy and the oppression and subjugation of people of color especially Black folks is a reality....they have concluded that the four hundred year, systematic usage of racism e.g. Jim Crow, Segregation, red-lining, etc.....still has impact on how we see ourselves, how they see us and how we relate and dont relate to one anoter as Black and White people...My point: "the man" is till alive and ythe man is still kicking our azzes SYSTEMATICALLY and any Black person who cant see that or is unwilling to DEFINE AND IDENTIFY THE EXISTENCE AND PRACTICE OF RACISM has a problem.....so I call it racism when it is applicable....I call ir homophobia when THAT is applicable...I call it SEXISM when that is applicable...in this case, Racism is applicable.....
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sigmascribe
Comment: Mo'Nique wouldn't have to purchase two seats if she's in 1st class, the seats are large enough. I've flown UA and they do have some nasty attendants. I no longer fly them, so a boycott is not a problem with me.
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khufu
Comment: damn infofan1960 I gotta agree with you there! And hopefully this is her wake up call to SHOUT racism EVERYTIME it needs to...and you know what...write her that letter telling her that SERIOUSLY...I am in full agreement with you and am an advocate of that same notion: when it is conveininet, some folks will cry "bloody racism" but wont when it is in their best interest not to...AGREED..however, as RACISM is the enemy and not MONIQUE, I will support her on the racism issue and whisper in her ear WHAT YOU SAID: "think about racism the next time you even think about doing some ole stupid sheet like SOUL PLANE or the name time you call a sistah a B---"
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sigmascribe
Comment: {infofan}please explain "domineering idiot" for me.
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rozzyr
Comment: This could've all be eliminated if Mo'nique put her hair dryer in her checked luggage instead of bringing it on the plane. Who brings their hair dryer on a plane? They weren't flying to Australia! Pull the race card when needed and stop crying wolf for every little thing.
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ImJustAsking
Comment: Kkhufu< you said “why is it that every other national or ethnic group can practive economic nationalism and it's not a problem? Look at the history of Chinatown. Jews do it. Middle Easterners do it. East Indians even do it.” To that I say this: Who said it’s not a problem? Talk to various Chinese people in America, the most successful of that community are the ones who DO NOT live in Chinatown. In fact, this is an argument that permeates their community still today, many Chinese, Russians, Mexicans, and other Europeans who are fairly easily recognizable (by accent or by physical characteristics) as non-white-Americans are constantly arguing about whether they should remain isolated in their own communities and how insular thinking affects them. You are considering the ownership of small businesses such as 7/11s and restaurants etc as an accomplishment for non-blacks…but really the argument here is that blacks should be getting together and owning CHAINS of these entities. So, I don’t consider the non-blacks to much more successful in that regard. Jewish people are in a different category…they immigrated to this country as free people and in great numbers and in concentrated areas that expanded very naturally. They are also easily assimilated. Also, I have to point out that much of the Jewish stronghold on medicine, entertainment etc can also be attributed to location, just as much of the United States accomplishments can be attributed to free labor and geography. You said “But whenever a Black (as in African American) even thionks about it---first naysayers are Black foks themselves! Interesting! Sheet, even Caribbean foks do it” I wasn’t discouraging blacks from owning business, I plan to own one myself, however, I was pointing out that there are mitigating factors that prevent someone (even a rich someone) from just opening up a successful worldwide or even nationwide venture. And let’s remember something about immigrants, the immigration laws in this country are such that the majority of immigrants we accept in this country are educated and of the highest class in their own nation. Therefore, they are predisposed to entrepreneurship etc.
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khufu
Comment: rozzyr BUT SHE DIDNT WANT TO!! She is a free azz child of God in America and if she wanted to put her dryer in her fat/phat azz she should have that right!
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infofan1960
Comment: Khufu, I still don't think it was racism. For one reason, I wasn't there and didn't hear what was said. For another reason, the stewardess may, just may, have been doing her job and was misunderstood. Thirdly, when a person who makes her living bashing women who aren't fat and is an obvious loud mouth, I have to wonder if maybe the stewardess was skinny and Monique was waiting to pounce on her just because. And for those who may try to read more into this than there is, I'm not a skinny girl trying to bash Monique. In fact, I have some rolls myself that I'm working off quite successfully. I just happen to not go around calling skinny women itches or any other women who happen to look better than me or have an appearance that I don't have. Sigma, if you can't see it, explaining it certainly won't work.
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khufu
Comment: IMJUSTASKING...How old are you? If you look at the San Francisco and NY Chinatown communities, they existed during segregation did they not? so theeir existence and success cannot be attributed to Immigration Laws as is the common explanation post 1960s....largely the success of these kinds of communities are more attributable to cultural cohesion, cultural committment, same language and the fact that they are tied into a homeland with a thriving economy or at least a homeland where their country kin have access to resources......
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bigheadbull2
Comment: I was not there so can't really speak to what happened but racism is a live and well. I ride first class alot and can honestly say I have never incountered a problem and yes I go to many hair shows like Bronner Brothers in Atlanta and have taken my dryer(hooded one) with me, so it would not get destroyed in flight. The only thing I have to send ahead are my shears and razors you can't bring them on board not matter what the cause.
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khufu
Comment: IMJUSTASKING did you know that prior to recently, Chinese people in NY did not massively participate in the political process through voting or running for office...so how was it then that they were still able to garnish more collective economic and political clout than Black folks? Same thing in San Francisco.......
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MDhornet
Comment: khufu, don't try to break sh!t down to me. I understand what has been done to black folk the world over. I know the history and i understand it's effects. At some point; however, we have to take some responsibility for our own mess. Racism is alive and kicking, but that doesn't mean that everytime a black person falls it's because they got kicked in the behind. Sometimes they're just tripping over their own mess. My daddy always taught me that folk may not like my color, but with enough green they will deal with me. I won't allow other people's ideas of me to determine how I live my life. Folk like you get on my damnn nerves with your pseudo-intellectual, I am more enlightened than you bullsh!t. Please. Maybe you're the exception to the rule, but in general the folk I've met who fit into that category are full of bullshat talk and no action. Nuff said. I'm done with this conversation. It's not like your mind could be changed anyway. That wouldr require it to be open.
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sigmascribe
Comment: infofan}LoL..The first attendant, to my prior reading, was male.
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yunvme
Comment: I say Mo should have kicked that ladies azz like Diana Ross did at the airport.
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khufu
Comment: IMJUSTASKING ask for East Indians...they own collective more than 7/11. They own hotels , motels (Holliday Inn!) and dunkin donuts...by the way, do you know the history behind the Indian name Patel? Interesting. Furthermore, they East Indians (and others as well) sit down and systematically and strategically engage in business ventures...if not in actual partnerships then cooperatively based on, if not their national ocommonalties than their religious one....a lot of the East Indian storeowners abelong to a specific branch of Islam...did you knw that?
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eyesley
Comment: It seems some of us have had similar incidents. I had a problem with my carry on and I came within a hillybilly's heartbeat of kicking the flight attendant's azz because she was talking down to me. That was on Northwest Airlines in 1988 and I haven't flown with them since that incident.
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infofan1960
Comment: yes hornet! thank you! amen!
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khufu
Comment: MDhornet you'd hate Jesus, my dear....and why is it that ioif I disagree with you, you become so venemous? cant you disagree agreeably? are you a sistha? if so, youre the type...NOT ALL ARE...but there are those that hate a strong, intellectual, hetero, self-aware Brother who says what they mean and mean what they say......
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yunvme
Comment: khufu she didnt have the right. You dont have any rights on airplanes in the world we live in now (after 9/11)
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infofan1960
Comment: Male, female, it doesn't matter. The person was doing her or her job.
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Merd325
Comment: Yeah, she was talking about it on Steve Harvey Morning Show. Steve said today that she wasn't the only celebrity that was mistreated. Nelly and another rapper, I forget his name was mistreated. One of them was told that they did not like black rappers to their face. Anthony Anderson the actor was kicked off the plane also, he said.
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dport
Comment: Use this link to be guided to the customer relations of United Airlines:
http://faq.ua2go.com/display/4/kb/optional/index.asp?t ab=opt1&opt=1&r=0.3392385. Their number is also listed which is 1-877-228-1327.
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golfebj
Comment: Trust. If MoNique was at fault they would not have booked her another flight at all. As a matter of fact they would have hauled her tail down to the precinct and booked her.
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khufu
Comment: IMJSTASKING I never said that non-Blacks were more successful that's what YOU SAID..my positio is that ECONOMIC NATIONALISM works...others practice it in this "OUR" country but we dont...and we should but those who have historically advocated it get shouted down as being racist and un-realisitic and haters of white people...sheet Chienese people love Chinese people and manifest that love through their practices ESPECIALLY their spending prctices and their investment practices./...most of yall are still more concerned with getting the love and acceptance of white folks even to the detriment of your own community and your own children........case in point INFOFAN saying.."I wasnt there but it wasnt racism..." How the hell does she know? She doesnt...but she loves white folks so much that they juust couldnt be racist..it had to be Monique's mis=perception......according to that line of thinking where the victim gets blamed for the their own victimization
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yunvme
Comment: golfebj it was not a matter of fault. She herself said that instead of the situation escalating, she WALKED off the plane, instead of being escorted off with cops. She tried to remain as calm as possible. So there was no reason why she wouldnt be able to board another flight.
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khufu
Comment: yunvme interesting statement...we do have innate and inherent rights (God and Constitutional) that are eroding and if we just turn the other cheek we will be in Facist Amercia...so I am glad she spoke up RACISM Aside.....I wrote apieice about an expeirience I had the last time I flew...sheet they were about to either arrest me or leave my azz.....it was about a freeking camera...Im sorry, I dont fit the profile of a terrorist..I dont look Arab looking and I sure as hell dont look like a member of the Irish Republic Amry! However, interesting that now, lately, a lot of possible terrorirt and even the one convicted although he really didnt do anything were dark-skinned...now even a brother fits the profile of terrorists but Timothy MvVeigh was caucasian and they get on the plain without problem!!!
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Train
Comment: She'll be boycotting the airline by herself because I can't see racism being in the mix on this one. People are so quick to cry "racism" everytime they can't get their way like that whakko Cynthia McKinney, Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.
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khufu
Comment: LOL plane
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sigmascribe
Comment: Train}Did you hear Mo'Nique was on the phone with Al Sharpton while this was going on?
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infofan1960
Comment: and Khufu, regarding your comment, "however, as RACISM is the enemy and not MONIQUE", she is the enemy because she's promoting fatness. Fat is fat, regardless to how much makeup you put on it and how many pretty clothes you dress it up in. I work in a hospital. I see what obesity is doing to our community. Yes you should love yourself, but she should be telling those sisters to try to lose weight in IN ADDITION to loving themselves. She should be promoting a healthy diet and PLENTY OF EXERCISE, WHICH A LOT OF SISTERS JUST WON'T DO. It's ridiculous to focus all your energy into being able to jiggle down a runway when high blood pressure, strokes and heart attacks are killing us in droves. And speaking for myself, a toned, body looks tremendously better than one that's misshapen because of rolls, dimples and dents. That's why I've changed my lifestyle to get in shape. Not everyone can be or should be skinny, but we as a people need to focus ALL our attention on getting and staying in shape instead of whining over what we went through as children because we were fat. From what I've seen, being able to win a beauty pageant for fat people doesn't mean jack when you have your legs amputated because of diabetes or you can't move like you used to because of a stroke or you have to slow to a crawl because of a heart attack.
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thebaddestchick
Comment: All I can say this story broke Monday on Steve Harvey. First Monique was reported by witnesses that she didnt get an attitude or act ghetto. She spoke to the woman in a very professional manner. It was the second stewardess that thought Monique was lying in saying that dryer was hers. In turn covering for the stylist. I believe that the stewardess tried to make an example out of someone. It wasnt worth kicking someone off the plane for. Even the police officers said that it was wrong what the stewardess was doing. So I believe Mo'Nique and I hope United get what they deserve. Alot of youll can say what you want about Mo'Nique and what she does. But it doesnt matter because she still is a human being. ALL I GOT TO SAY WOULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED TO A WHITE WOMAN??
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gingerg
Comment: Instead of being upset about Monique being kicked off a plane, we better be concerned about the epidemic crime rate in our community, the miseducation of our children, the lack of economic development/empowerment and
health disparities.
Now that is something to get up in arms about.
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ImJustAsking
Comment: khufu< As usual, you are bringing up lots of 'examples' but not tying them in any way shape or form to the context I was using my examples. If you read through my post again, and read through alllll of yours you will realize that 1. you didn't make any points and 2. My post, in my normal concise, rational fashion, addressed the original points you made and leaves me with nothing else that is necessary to say. I also co-sign with MDhornet. And as far as the age thing is concerned, I think in this case my age must work to my advantage b/c I would hate to go around thinking that allll white people hate me and that I'll never ever get ahead if I don't subscribe to an all black all the time mentality. That is not feasible in 2006 and beyond.
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ImJustAsking
Comment: gingerg and info< let me ask you this...why are you a.ssuming it's not possible to be concerned about the customer service people are receiving on an airple AND be equally concerned about the crime in our communities at the same time? I believe it's called multitasking.
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ImJustAsking
Comment: *airplane
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thebaddestchick
Comment: Infofan - First of all she is not promoting being fat. Mo'Nique exercises and has lost weight. She promotes that you should feel good about yourself and dont be ashamed because society deems you overweight U should have good self esteem just like any other small size women. Health is not built on size. Im a plus size sister and I am just as healthy as any skinny sister. As that was told to me by my doctor. It has been proved that because of your frame and height that some people will not be a size 8 or 10 but a healthy 16 or 18. So I commend Mo'Nique for what she is doing because we can be beautiful big and loving it. And also be healthy too. I dont know what you watched, but she told those girls to go walking and do an exercise for at least 30 minutes. Mo'Nique even said she was going to come out with a workout video as well for the big girls.
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ss69054
Comment: ImJustAsking>THANK YOU! Somebody agrees with me. All this hooping and hollering through the keyboards ain't solving a dang thing. I agree totally with the concept of other issues that are more important that are continuing to rip through our community on a daily basis. Racism is an ugly disease we have to live with. Just face it. It is not ever going to disappear. It is stuck with us like flies on sh$t. So in the millenium as Black folks who have dealth with it for over 400 yrs ought to learn by now how to play the game right. If you haven't mastered it by now then that is your own fault. Whining and crying is the epitome of foolish negro.
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DCGG
Comment: Fuvk that fat joker smile azz batch...I get sick of negros sreaming racism - her assistant/stylist or whatever had no damn bidness storing a hair dryer in first class particularly if the %*$!( wasn't sitting in first class...this is a case of I think I's the shats...not racism...
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Gemami
Comment: Although I am not one to use racism as an initial reason for mistreatment, but this incident was escalated because of race. Come on the attendant said “you people”, that denotes racism and Mo’Nique should demand the firing of that attendant. We all know that after 911 every dark-complexion person was suspect by airport security and flight attendants who are either scared, already distrustful of Blacks or just plain racist to begin with. After 911 it just gave these people a reason to signal out people with dark-complexions.
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cornbread
Comment: Those white flight attendants don't like it when blacks sit in first class. They get mad at that and this is why they treat us like sh-t when we sit there. Some white people are still prejudice, but they hide that sh-t. Same thing with DMX on the plane. They always want to paint a picture that we act beligerant on planes, but those flight attendants can be rude as hell. DMX and Monique did the right thing.
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thebaddestchick
Comment: But regardless if you pay your money to a company for a service. YOU DESERVE RESPECT AS A PATRON OF THAT BUSINESS. The stewardess could have politely told the stylist not to put it up there and see if they could find room somewhere else in the plane. IT IS NOT WHAT YOU SAY BUT HOW YOU SAY IT. And it seems like these stewardesses(sp?) had an attitude and backed it up with United Policy.
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thebaddestchick
Comment: Quote from the article " "Tell your people that the next time they have an attitude, they are being thrown off. ... Since 9/11, we don't play around," one flight attendant allegedly told Mo'Nique.
SO YOULL TELLING ME THIS ISNT A RACIST COMMENT?
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gingerg
Comment: That's a fair question, I'm just asking. It's just that we seem to become more emotional over these kinds
of issues than some of the other ones that have been plaguing our communities for years.
A young black mother of two was killed
by a stray bullet in Philly earlier this month. A wheelchair bound community activist was shot multiple times in Washington a few weeks ago.
I'm just suggesting that we put our passion behind solutions that are going to benefit us as a people.
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JustCurt
Comment: It's really hard for me to understand why people are so confident that this was an act of racism. Is it just because a celebrity was involved? It is just because we have associated our past experience with this situation thus clouding our judgment? I obviously know that racism exists but is there enough proof for me to jump on the racism wagon with this story just because of what I've read or seen TV related to this situation thus far?. This story possibly does involve racism; but, it is possible that it does not involve racism. Is it possible that the flight attendants just didn't handle the situation properly? It is far-fetched to believe that a white person hasn’t experienced the same type of treatment by a flight attendant involving carry-on luggage? Is it fair to label the entire airline as racists or should it just be focused on the parties involved? Now, saying that, I'm not trying to minimize the effect of racism in this country. I know it exists in various forms but I personally take it seriously enough to gather the facts and then attempt to take an unbiased stance based on those facts. I do this because every cry of racism can be a positive or negative step toward the progress of black Americans in regards to racial issues. The only side I’ve heard is Monique’s. Am I naïve enough to just hear her side of the story and just support it on GP just because she is black? Let me rephrase because I don’t want to label those who have a different opinion on this matter so I apologize. In a nutshell, I think our objective should always be to make a fair and just decision based on the facts. I feel the use of the word “racism” should be handled with care until we have done our due diligence in making an informed opinion. I just don’t think the opportunity has presented itself yet in regard’s to Monique’s charges of racism. Peace.
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yunvme
Comment: thebaddestchick the "your people" she was referring to was Moniques assistant/stylist/entourage. It was them, not Monique that was acting ignorant. Like the flight attendant said, next time THEY have an attitude they'll be thrown off. It was that person that messed it up for Monique. So yes, I'm saying that is not racist. Did you automatically think "your people" meant BLACK people?
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infofan1960
Comment: When a person says that the only real woman is a big woman, she's promoting fat. And just because a person has M.D. behind his or her name doesn't mean he or she knows all or tells the truth. Doctors lie and make mistakes all the time. Hello! Malpractice! Like I said I work in a hospital and see what obesity does. I've even seen what fat has done to my own health. So I'm not buying that just as healthy as a skinny girl stuff. I don't like heavy breathing, huffing, puffing, sweating, flab or my feet looking like hams stuffed into shoes. I love myself and that's why I'm losing the weight.
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ss69054
Comment: Gingerg> That is the point I am making. I agree totally. Nobody is ready to rally about AIDS, "Black on Black violence", Diabetes and Prostate Cancer, Inferior Education and all the other issues that are highly more important than a celeb who wouldn't come at your rescue to stand behind u if you were kicked off the plane. Sometimes we are so flip-flop and can find so many problems with no solutions. Just as stated earlier, the only way how to defeat racism and any other isms that we tend to face is through three things 1) Start loving and accepting ourselves, cultures and differences 2) Support Black businesses 3) Create more black businesses by going the Entrepreneurship route. Until then, just expect that those type of things will happen. And last but not least, I wonder if this airline would have been a Black-owned airline and kicked her off -- would u guys be so ready to jump on her side??? Hmmm, sounds flip-flop right??
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sigmascribe
Comment: So why was something said to Mo'Nique without filling her in on the entire situation??? I don't put attitude past Black people and I do not put racism past White people.
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thebaddestchick
Comment: Infofan??- FIRST OF ALL, my doctor did not lie to me. Look like someone done lied to you. So u are saying that the only healthy woman is a skinny woman? Because I dont have high blood pressure,high cholesteral, or do I huff and puff when I get up the stairs. So all this you are saying is based on just some of what you see where you work. You cannot stereotype everyone based on your definition of what "FAT" is. She is not promoting fat and if she hurts your feeling by saying Big Women are the only real women turn the station.
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ImJustAsking
Comment: Gingerg< I agree with that, especially as far as people on EW are concerned. Yesterday EurWeb did a story on the violence in Philly and there were not as many comments by 5pm as there are by 10:30am on this Monique board. So, I do feel what you’re saying, I just don’t like the implication that blacks should focus on one thing at a time or even that blacks should be equally passionate about the same issues. BTW, DC is under crime emergency, EW hasn’t done a story on that yet has it?
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khufu
Comment: infofan1960 In the context of the story, TACISM IS WHAT MO said and not "fatism"...had Mo' said US was "Tfatist" then we would be discussing that as the enemy....
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Name:
khufu
Comment: that's "RACISM"
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Name:
khufu
Comment: JustCurt 4oo years of racism will make you that wya....are if it sounds like a duck and walks like one..then QUACK my brother/sister Quack
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khufu
Comment: ss69054 see..youre looking for acceptance instead of truth.......that consciousness is deadly when applied to analyzing relationa between Black folks and white...
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Name:
Gurlfrand
Comment: The seats on all of the airlines are small. I can't imagine an overweight person scrounging down in one of those seats - you practically have to purchase two seats if you are overweight.
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khufu
Comment: JustCurt see, the victim seeking rationalization for the violator's behaviour....deep...what if it was racism? what will YOU do? but no matter what--you'll still find excuses for racism...next youll say" "Well Mo must have done something wrong...."
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ladybyrd
Comment: Here's the problem: "Was it tagged with Mo'nique name?" The stewardess so someone from COACH put an article in the overhead ben in First Class, which is a NO NO. If Mo'nique was going to keep the dryer with her, she should have tagged the object with the right name. RACISM... What the HELL does THIS has to do with racism??...NOTHING!
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bigheadbull2
Comment: LOL@mdhornet morning Star
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musbdherbs
Comment: Y don't we all come to a simple understanding. THIS forum, EUR, is an entertainment forum FIRST. W/in it, there are political/social issues that are discussed. However, those are not the most prevalant issues on THIS site. If this were CNN, FOX or some other "news" forum, then I would expect people to mostly engage in converstations about polictical/social things. Considering that this is a FORUM..we are allowed to discuss whatever topic we want. There will always be other "significant" things we can discuss. But, because we choose to engage in day-long debates about [insert topic] does NOT mean that we aren't involved other "significant" issues. Besides I'm sure that most of us should be doing what our employers pay us to do..BUT we're here everyday. We really need to stop the "y r we talkin about this when there's poverty/crime destroying our communities" Hopefully the next person who comes w/that thought thinks b4 they type and say "y am I posting on this entertainment forum when my people are dying every day?"
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clotel
Comment: I am not sure what to make of the story but rudeness of any kind by anyone should not be tolerated. Besides, rudeness does not have a color. I heard on 'The Steve Harvey' show this morning that United Airlines had a scuffle with Nelly about a year ago and with Juvenile as recently as last month. I travel often and have never had a bad experience but then again, I am not an ego driven entertainer either !!!!!!
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khufu
Comment: ladybyrd see, we werent there...so while we can see NO it wasnt racism---we werent there! Maybe it was the way the UA person said what they said...If Mo said it was racist, then how and why are you people on here saying it wasnt when you werent there.....?
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ss69054
Comment: khufu> I am not looking for acceptance from anyone. What I am stating is to accept that racism will never disappear off this planet. There will never be any closure to it. That is reality. We are no near of getting an apology or reparations. U can forget that brotha b/c America is not ready for that. When I walk into stores, corporate america, etc. I already know what to face b/c of my skin color. So I don't have to be so shock and paranoid b/c nothing haven't change a bit. What I am saying is that we have not accepted ourselves fully enough to appreciate the value we have to have more of our own businesses and so forth. I don't need an education on historical timeline of Black folks. I am reminded everyday of that when I look into the mirror.
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khufu
Comment: musbdherbs Props to you...kudos to you....write on! Right on!
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ladybyrd
Comment: khufu > Regarding your comment about Willie screwing his Mother?? Where the hell did that come from? We are discussing a Comedian who forgot to tag her sh*t! How did someone's Mother get into this? This is disturbing...coming from intelligent Adults. <shaking my head in disgust>
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Name:
khufu
Comment: ss69054 well I agree with that certainly and if that is what you are saying then I MISUNDERSTOOD somewhere...... i am a staunch advocate of yoiur last post 4 sure
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Name:
khufu
Comment: ladybyrd interesting! did you slap willie's wrist for WHAT HE FIIRST SAID ABOUT MO? That's why I did that......interesting you had no problem with what HE said about MO...isnt she somebody's mother?
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Gemami
Comment: "Tell your people that the next time they have an attitude, they are being thrown off. ... Since 9/11, we don't play around," one flight attendant allegedly told Mo'Nique. I had to repeat that again 'cause I can't understand how people can rationalize that comment. It was clearly racist. Even if "your people" refers to Mo'Nique's staff to equate this incident to 911 clearly states that this attendant feels that because of 911 this gives attendants an excuse to "not play that" and boot people off planes for minute reason... and I would believe mainly Blacks.
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khufu
Comment: However MUSBDHERBS a forum invites open conversation right? so what's entertainment for some is not entertainment for others.....so all is fair and open on these forums unless folks at the host site want to start banning folks......
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Name:
EdnaMae
Comment: Sorry Mo', love ya, but, you have to follow the rules just like everyone else. No need trying to be ghetto royalty and getting treted as such when you are a b-list stara!
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khufu
Comment: Malcom said this and it applies to the anaylsis of racism and this Mo situation......."To understand this, you have to go back to what the young brother here referred to as the house Negro and the field Negro back during slavery. There were two kinds of slaves, the house Negro and the field Negro. The house Negroes - they lived in the house with master, they dressed pretty good, they ate good because they ate his food - what he left. They lived in the attic or the basement, but still they lived near the master; and they loved the master more than the master loved himself. They would give their life to save the master's house - quicker than the master would. If the master said, "We got a good house here," the house Negro would say, "Yeah, we got a good house here." Whenever the master said "we," he said "we." That's how you can tell a house Negro.
If the master's house caught on fire, the house Negro would fight harder to put the blaze out than the master would. If the master got sick, the house Negro would say, "What's the matter, boss, we sick?" We sick! He identified himself with his master, more than his master identified with himself. And if you came to the house Negro and said, "Let's run away, let's escape, let's separate," the house Negro would look at you and say, "Man, you crazy. What you mean, separate? Where is there a better house than this? Where can I wear better clothes than this? Where can I eat better food than this?" That was that house Negro. In those days he was called a "house %*$!(@." And that's what we call them today, because we've still got some house %*$!(@. running around here.
This modern house Negro loves his master. He wants to live near him. He'll pay three times as much as the house is worth just to live near his master, and then brag about "I'm the only Negro out here." "I'm the only one on my job." "I'm the only one in this school." You're nothing but a house Negro. And if someone comes to you right now and says, "Let's separate," you say the same thing that the house Negro said on the plantation. "What you mean, separate? From America, this good white man? Where you going to get a better job than you get here?" I mean, this is what you say. "I ain't left nothing in Africa," that's what you say. Why, you left your mind in Africa."
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musbdherbs
Comment: IF I can recall mo's conversation w/Harvey on Monday, I thought she said that she was alerted AFTER her assistant exchanged words w/the attendant for not allowing her to put the dryer in 1st class because she [attendant] didn't believe that she was putting the dyer there for her boss [monique] who was riding 1st class. FYI, if you're able to go through security...then u can store it on the plane...nothing new.
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ladybyrd
Comment: khufu > I'm going based on the story. Did I MISS the part when they said the dryer was tagged with Mo'Niques name? If no, then what's the problem? The bin space in First Place is reserved for First Class...period. Next time she want things to go smoother she may want to put her name on her items & her entourage. The word "RACISM" is thrown around in evey cenario that it's now water down. When there is a great reason to use it, it has NO weight, because of bullsh*t like this.
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gingerg
Comment: I'm Just Asking:
I see your point about being able to multi-task. However, we don't seem to do that very well. I know the issues are daunting, but we can make progress with sustained effort.
I haven't seen much on the DC killings, but I wonder who these murderers are really at war with.
I saw something about the increase in
police killing folk in Philly. People will have a fit about that, but what about all of the innocent (largely) people that criminals are slaughtering on a daily basis without a care for their families, etc?
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Soulwriter
Comment: This BS is in the upper ranges of ridiculous!!! If those employees had been so concerned about the contraband, then how was she and her entourage allowed to board to begin with?? They run a wand over you, x-ray your bags and can still randomly do it all over again, so if they questioned the item at that point, there's something wrong. Also, if Mo'Nique was such a damn threat, then WHY WAS SHE PUT BACK ON ANOTHER FLIGHT ON THE SAME AIRLINE??? No one feared for their safety enough to refund the price of the tickets to this "threat to security"!!! I'm glad that Mo' isn't taking this up the @$$ quietly like they obviously epected and I hope they do more than try to justify that BS with just more of it. I will definitely remember this the next time I fly the "FRIENDLY" (hah!) skies---keep your head up Mo', we got you!!!
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bigheadbull2
Comment: My good friend was shot in the head while closing up his store here in DC on the 1st of july. I deal with racism whenever I encounter it but I too believe there are more pressing issues than a plane incident. I am pulling for her cause as the saying goes injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere. We must all choose our battles.
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khufu
Comment: How does this apply? Well, those who are not even willing to consider that racism was in full effect are house negroes...LOL...those who attack Mo while she is the victom...house negroes...those who keep making excuses for white racism...House negroes.......LOL..those who want to simply dismiss 400 years (and counting) of racism are house negroes......again, it could be that the stewardess was having a bad day and it wasnt racist...HOWEVER, Mo said it was...and I know that white folks practices, mentality, consciousness, values, etc cannot be ignored...not by a thinking, sane, conscious and realistic person.....to ignore 400 years of racism would be an insane act......
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Victornator
Comment: This whole thing was blown out of proportion and I blame the flight attendants and Monique's hair stylist. First, once all the baggage has been loaded under the plan, it is the FLIGHT ATTENDANTS job to make sure there is a place to store any stuff that would normally fit into the overhead compartment. Second, we all know that if you do not have a first class ticket, you are not supposed to not even use the first class sh!t house (under normal circumstances). All Monique's hair stylist had to do is let one of the flight attendants know that there was no room to store the bullet-shaped hair dryer and if there was not overhead compartment room left in coach, I am sure the flight attendant, not Monique's hair stylist, would have put the hair dryer in the available space in first class or up one of their a$$es.
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khufu
Comment: ladybyrd I wasnt there--were you? How can you say that racism wasnt a factor? All Im saying is, odds are that it was...i have 400 years to back up those odds.....I know foks will throw that out in a minute when it isnt always the case--most times it is though.....youre looking at the act and forgetting this: Attitude, facial expression, tone, demeanoer, etc..you werent there so you didnt see how Mo was treated......
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ladybyrd
Comment: musbdherbs > Yes, but from the story, the issue is that a COACH ticket holder stored an item, tagged to her in FIRST Class, which you can NOT do. First Class bins are strictly reserved for First Class. You don't pay upward of $1500.00 and NOT have a bin to store your belongings.
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khufu
Comment: Victornator you could be right vut that still doesnt rule out racism....if Mo was white, would the stewardess have dealt with a minor "problem" differently? you guys keep focusing on the dryer and not the process......HOW THE STEWARDESS handled it......
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Name:
sultry
Comment: Look I know that you all are going to come after me but I ma going to say it anyway. If Monique saw all this stuff on here about here and she could go one on one with the ones who posted this stuf she would eat you all alive. Remember she is a comedian. Nique do not play, yall better recognize. P.S.
I just ran out because I know I done started something. Love you guys!
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musbdherbs
Comment: Although we can all have opinions on it, doesn't it require objectivity to determine if someone is a victim of racism. If you're not able to "objectively" look at the situation and ask yourself "if he/she would've been treated differently had he/she been [insert ethnicity]" then maybe u r not using your best judgment. After leaving the gym on y'day, it took me 12 minutes to hail a taxi. I'm sure it sounds like impatience. But, considering that at least 15 passed me by w/no passengers...One stopped but drove on after telling him I was going to SE...another picked up a yt female passenger who came there to stand AFTER I had already been there 10 minutes...I'm OBJECTIVELY able to come to MY own conclusion as to the reason. Fortunately, this kind non-black person saw me standing there frustrated, came over and stood next 2 me, waited for the cab to stop, and left once I got in. Racism, discrimination, disparate treatment, disparate impact, or just unlucky. Call it whatever u like...but I know what I felt and people telling me something different doesn't mean that my claim is any less valid.
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Victornator
Comment: I did not say anything about racism being involved or not being involed in this situation. I have been on planes and after someone in coach cannot find a place to put their stuff, the flight attendant takes it off to some black hole and comes back and reminds the person that stuff is in the black hole.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: If the stewardess treated or handled the situation differently than the way she would have with a white person then it is racist...would he/she been more accomdating is it was lets say Billy Crystal or a white celeb that has similar status to Mo'?
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khufu
Comment: Victornator exactly! what is your position? If racism is being discussed, a non-comment is akin to either neutralization, dismissal or just plain ignoring. Was it a racist situation or not? You say it was blown out of proporation....defend your position...apparently, Mo is sensitive to racism......
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HoneyMack
Comment: Here is the article in full. EW left some of the information out:
Mo'Nique Speaks Out: Her Airline Drama!
July 26, 2006
Comedienne MO'NIQUE is speaking out about how she says she was mistreated by airline personnel over an incident on Sunday, when the actress says she was asked to leave a United Airlines flight.
The star of the big screen's 'Phat Girlz' and host to the small screen's "Mo'Nique's F.A.T. Chance" (a television beauty pageant for large women) said she boarded a flight to New York in first class when, she alleges, flight attendants threw her off the plane without giving her a reason why, referring to her as a "threat."
"I'm in disbelief that it happened to me," she tells ET.
According to Mo'Nique, a flight attendant approached her and addressed her in a rude and unprofessional manner. "The flight attendant comes up to me and says, 'Listen, you need to let your people know ... if they don't straighten out their attitude I'll have them thrown off this flight,'" she said from her hometown of Baltimore this morning. "And I said, 'No, you're not gonna speak to me like that. You're not gonna be rude and disrespectful.' [He said,] 'Well, you know what, I'll have you thrown off, too.' He snapped his fingers and walked away."
She says that the flight attendants were upset that a member of her support team -- who was sitting in coach -- put Mo'Nique's hairdryer in first class where the star was sitting. After she voluntarily got off the plane, a United employee told her that since 9/11, they don't take threats lightly.
"If I am such a threat," Mo'Nique points out, "why am I not being taken out of the airport? Why are you trying to get me on any flight if I posed a terrorist threat? That's not making sense to me."
"They felt it was okay to mistreat me and pull me out of my seat, simply because I would not allow them to be disrespectful," Mo'Nique says. "I'm angry, I'm in shock. It was incredibly humiliating and embarrassing for me. Police were everywhere."
The actress was attempting to fly to New York in order to guest host "The View." She did make that engagement, sitting down with the ladies Monday morning.
After the story broke, United Airlines issued the following statement:
"The safety of all of our passengers and our crew is our top priority, and that we regret that Ms. Imes felt in any way that she was not treated with courtesy and respect. When a situation occurs on a flight that causes a delay, or disruption, we must act in the best interest of all of our customers. It was determined that the best course of action was to accommodate Ms. Imes on a later flight."
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bigheadbull2
Comment: Love you Ms Sultry but I can hang when it comes to the jokes she would get as good as she gives with me for sure.
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khufu
Comment: Im out..for those who dont know let me recommend reading Franz Fanon
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Name:
ImJustAsking
Comment: gingerg< I disagree, I think blacks multitask very well, if we didn't we wouldn't have come as far as we have. I think the key is for people to throw their passion towards the issues they feel they can personally impact. For example, the fact that Musb and many other black men have trouble getting a cab may not be important to another black person but to someone like, Danny glover it may be a huge issue. Just like for many of us who do not fly regularly, the Monique story may not hit a nerve, but to someone like Monique who travels by air frequently, this is important. People should be able to choose which issues to throw their energy behind, and no one should tell them "stop worrying about ____ you need to be focusing on ths _____"
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McNasty
Comment: Khufu you having some kind of difficulty today? Willie is willie and McNasty is McNasty. If I'm not mistaken Willie is a man and you will just have to take my word for the fact that I am a woman (which is no doubt why you're jocking my vicky's early this am). Back the truck up and get a load of your own shat, I'm entitled to my opinion as are you - why must I constantly remind you of this?!
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Iwannasay
Comment: "White Cultural Supremacy" - that's a good one! You think they don't hassle white people and throw them off of planes? How naive! You think they don't get shook down thru security to confiscate THEIR nailclippers? Or how about the white nursing mother in Denver where they wanted to search her bra for godssakes?! She was all up on TV telling about how humiliated SHE was by that. You know - there is real freedom to be had if you just choose to stop feeling so victimized by others.
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ss69054
Comment: Sultry> I'm not impressed with Mo' b/c she knows how to crack a joke. I got alot of them myself - how about she shave those hairy monsterous legs and the hair under chin. So ummmm, tacky don't u think?
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Victornator
Comment: Khufu, my position on whether racism was involved depends when I learn more details of the incident. If for example, the hairstylist walked into first class, just opened one of the bins, and when approached by the staff got loud and ignorant and then it escalated from there. Or if the hairstylist walked into first class, just opened one of the bins, and when approached by the staff said (possibly pointing to Monique - first class is only so big) that this was for one of the first class customer's then I would side on the side of racism.
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ss69054
Comment: I wanted to add something else to this UA vs. Monique ordeal. Ok, it's about to go down with her protesting against UA. It will be all on the news I am sure. So, what do u think will happen? Well, I will tell you what will happen -- UA will give an apology written and media statement to her and she gets like 2yrs of tickets. And guess what???? Black folks will still fly the UA and forget about the whole situation. It happens all the time. Just like Denny's. They went out there way to promote blacks in management and to market that they are accepting. The apology letter went out. Guess what? I drive pass a Denny's and after all the hooping and hollering about racism and how unfair, I seen the same negroes back up in the restaurant. We got a voice to scream and make a valid opinion but do we have enough balls to stand up and take some real action. Like I said before, talk, talk, and no walk.
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timmdogg
Comment: <Infofan1960> I totally agree with you 120 percent! We as black people are so quick to say something is racism when in fact sometimes it's out own negligience that's keeping is in the hen house! WHY can't we as black people respect our sisters and brothers without this so-called genocide ripple effect? What happen to black men taking charge and being responsible for our actions courtesy of the "Million Man March"? To me we have been the victim(s) of following to many so-called leaders that are only interested in us by fooling us with dense instructions on Black America. We as a race need to believe in valuing our own first and respecting each other, only then will the reins of injustice prevail because we are united in the truth...people don't be fooled. Just because someone claims they are black, don't necessary mean they have out best intentions at heart.....Nuff said!!!!
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Name:
huey
Comment: if she lost 30lbs, she coulda sat the 5lb hairdryer in her mu-uckin lap and been done with it...
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Name:
ladybyrd
Comment: khufu > No, I wasn't there, that's why I stated "Based on the story that Eur is providing". You on the other hand is "ASSUMING" which is dangerous. You are ASSUMING because WE have endured racism, that it applies here. I don't see it in this story.
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Iwannasay
Comment: timmdogg you are a REAL man! Willing to take responsibility for the space you occupy on this planet. Aint no free lunch for ANYBODY - no one gets by with belligerent behavior and non-blacks don't have some magic key card to all the perqs in the world either if they choose to act like a--holes. That is, unless (but strangely not in the Mo'nique case) you're a celebrity - now THAT is typically the key to begin able to get what you want with a foot stomp.
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Iwannasay
Comment: Man, jes when you're tryin to make sense - shoulda read BEING no begin
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musbdherbs
Comment: Timm....overall yes we are. However, considering what's been reported and the subsequent posted statement by monique...are u able to say that (based solely on what was reported) that discrimination wasn't applicable in this case. As was at the mmm. Not sure you've been around in EUR land BUT, attending the march was not something that people on here and most of my friends felt like they should do. As part ot valuing our own and respecting each other...is it right to say because [I] thought I was a victim of discrimination...[you] say that I wasn't...then I shouldn't say nething because u don't agree w/the premise? If u take my incident on y'day and apply it to this discussion...I've had 3 people tell me that it probably wasn't racially motivated. Am I to remain silent because "they" don't agree? The term "real man" needs to stop being thrown around just as quickly as "racism"
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Iwannasay
Comment: OK - I retract it - he's no damn good. Feel better now?
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Name:
Priceless
Comment: dayum I'm all late and y'all been talking much shat, but my 2 cents worth is airlines have been over reacting to incidences on planes long before 9/11 especially when a darkie is involved
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DCGG
Comment: CTFU @ Priceless - not darkie - lolololololololololol now that shat was funny...yet ignorant at the same time....
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Name:
bigheadbull2
Comment: LOL@iwannasay
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Name:
yunvme
Comment: I wonder if it was one of those skinny b*tches that kicked her off the plane. LoL.
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Priceless
Comment: I can't even get through half these posts before I have to chime in again ... Mo'Nique was on ET last night and she did not holler racism, she said they treated her inhumanly and that no one no matter what color they are deserve to be treated that way
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my3pluscents
Comment: B00TANEB00TUS why do you think she had to pay for 2 seats? That was very ignorant of you to say. The bottom line is it was her hairdryer, so what's the problem, plus I fly all the time and see them moving things around between coach and first class. It was all blown out of proportion and should have been handled better than that.
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Name:
cedent
Comment: For those of you that don't know, these flight attendants have been out of control for a long time. I understand safety, but many are rude, abrasive, give themselves too much credit...there is no reason to do many of the things that they do. I fly alot and believe me when I tell you it is bad.
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Priceless
Comment: McNasty *pointing up north* you trippin ... a sista would have a dryer so that her stylist can do her dayum hurr, WTF?! is that a foreign concept to you? and checking it might result in a broke azz hair dryer when you get to your destination
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Name:
cedent
Comment: ...and another thing, flight attendants have too much power to have people thrown in jail. I think they need to be held accountable if they file a false police report. I hope Monique tells it ALL when she is on TV...
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yunvme
Comment: the truth about Flight attendants is they are nothing but waitresses in the air and nothing more. They somehow think they are homeland security now. Its so funny to me how they act and look. Like Miss America rejects, and the guys- I wont even speak on them. Flight attendants really think they are all that. They always have.
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Name:
cedent
Comment: To all of you that have never been in the situation, it is not pretty. To all of you that think it was completely Moniques fault, I hope you experience a humbling experience that will enlighten you...you really need enlightening...seriously.
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ImJustAsking
Comment: I think some people think that as long as the person doesn't call you a Ni$$er, it's not racism. That's the trouble with trying to combat modern racism...it is subtle enough that it's not easily identifiable by the victim, hard to prove, and easy to get away with. Also, there is such a thing as unconscious racism...that happens when a person is prone to discriminating against a certain group b/c they have a heightened sense of awareness, so it's not intential...but it's just as damaging and needs to be addressed.
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Iwannasay
Comment: Bigbullhead2 I love you
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Name:
Priceless
Comment: DCGG, and we know you can appreciate ig'nant *smirk*
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Name:
sigmascribe
Comment: ladyb}I thought Mo'Nique was in 1st class.
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ladylove
Comment: It wasn't racism to me either. The situation could have been resolved if the flight attendant had just informed someone of proper proceedure. Now when attitudes start flying and it does delay the plane from take-off considering others have somewhere else to go and paid for their tickets, measures should have been taken. Monique could have asked exactly where could she place her items. Being loud and ghetto does not mean you will get your way. Those attendants have a job to do and it should be respected.
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DCGG
Comment: @ Priceless thus my comment...I'm still laughin @ Darkie lolololololololololololol
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Name:
Platinum
Comment: I remember when Dr. Bertice Berry the former talk show host spoke of her experience in first class when she came to my town years ago. She said the white flight attendant told her that the seat she was sitting in was reserved for Dr. Berry. Bertice asked the flight attendant if she knew who Dr. Berry was. Dr. Berry showed her ID and shut her up with a quickness. Even Denzel Washington has spoke about his experience in first class. Mo'Nique's situation is not so much about her hair dryer, her argument seems to be more about how she was treated at least that’s the way it seems to me. Mo'Nique had every right to voice her concern I know I would have.
@ ss69054 I’m one of the few negroes who still boycott Denny’s.
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JustCurt
Comment: khufu> Unfortunately, you're talking to a bruh that does not accept "learned behavior" and/or excuses when it comes to dealing with the challenges of the black community. I have situations in my personal life that have involved racism and I acted accordingly. I got my sh** on, believe dat!! But, I have also had situations occur in my life that happen to people of various backgrounds on a regular basis but for some reason, we, as black americans, tend to use the racism card the majority of the time when we don't get our way. Is it possible for racism to be involved with every situation in life that occurs between people of different races when conflict is involved? That's not reality. I'm not denying that racism could have been a factor, but I'm not going to get gung ho for Monique when she had some responsibility in the matter as well.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Monique is on Al Sharpton's "Keepin' It Real" right now talking about the incident and how it goes far beyond a disagreement of a hair dryer.
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Iwannasay
Comment: JustCurt, you....you so, so - I'm afraid to say something nice bout you...you so REAL. If a non-black is rude to you, does it ever occur to us that it could be they just DON"T LIKE YOU no matter what your color might be? It's not fair nor progressive to say every non-white has racist intentions when they say or do something you don't like. Plus that, I challenge anyone to say how they know what's in the hearts of an entire race of people! Who made YOU God?
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Name:
musbdherbs
Comment: lady...what article have u read which said that Monique was "loud and ghetto?" Is this your assumption or has it been reported as u stated ^.
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Name:
thebaddestchick
Comment: Go to ghettofabu.blogspot.com to see the clip of Mo'Nique on "The View"
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Name:
phatloc
Comment: Those stewards have every right to be prudent, their lives depend it. But I love my peeps and we, as you can read(comments) have many different views like our hue's. I sometimes wonder if this is attribute or dilemma. A honey bee can sting but a hive can mess you up.
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ladybyrd
Comment: khufu > Yes, Mo is someone's mother. However, You don't think it's sick & twisted to say that "Willie wants to screw his Mother"! That is morbid & sick, in my opinion. Did Willie say that Mo'Nique wanted to screw her father?? This is craziness going arye
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McNasty
Comment: This situation is what it is and has less to do with racism and more to do with moneyed blacks thinking they are gonna do the whitey in every forum. We need to quit being so damned quick to holler racism when we discriminate against each other and others on a daily basis. Mo'nique should have checked that damn dryer through so they could put it in with the rest of the baggage. Why set yourself up needlessly?!
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Name:
cedent
Comment: McNasty...you seem very ignorant...sorry...
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Name:
sigmascribe
Comment: McNasty}I believe the hair dryer was not checked because it would have arrived in at least 3 different pieces. They would have broken that thing to shreds!!!!
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Name:
shirl
Comment: What a shame. No one should be humiliated to that extent. Their excuse about policy and security measures is weak.
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Name:
ImJustAsking
Comment: Musb< Can you imagine that report. This just in from CNN "After being approached regarding the hair dryer, it has been reported that Monique began to act loud and ghetto, and threatening to call her cousin and 'nem" LMAO!!
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goodnplenty1957
Comment: i was not going to reply or respond to this article but i have to get my two cent in. i will probably lose some of my peeps and peep-ettes for this. from 2000-2005, i was a STRAIGHT-BLACK-MALE flight attendant with united based at JFK. i felt proud when i saw blacks on my flight, especially when we flew to from JFK-LAX and the black stars, DENZEL, PATTI, EARTHA, LL, MEKHI, DANNY GLOVER, MONTELL, JASMINE GUY, etc..all of them have been on my flights one time or another. the look on my white counterparts when TREACH, and other rappers came on the flights with their rope chains, rolexes, etc..they act like those must not be real. %*$!ed me off..because they were also sitting in 1st or buisness class which should have told them they cold afford the bling bling..it was very rare to see blacks on the united flights because the prices of their seats were, and still, the highest in the airlines. the airline caters to the white buisness traveler. when i got my current job i travel on other carriers, ATA, AA, NW, etc. my suprise was to see the number of blacks on the other carriers. anyway..back to the subject at hand. bags for economy go in the overhead in economy and if their isnt any room, then they go up front or wherever they can fit them. once monique said it was my bag, my assistant was carrying it and stowing it for me up here..that SHOULD HAVE BEEN end of story. during the flight no one is allowed to come forward to the first class for security reasons. 9-11, they came from the back forward. not saying thats where they will come from. but never the less. the flight attendants acted without thinking and it should have been a better way to approach it. i am not going to boycott any carrier, because it could happen on ANY carrier. oprah dont fly UA because of an incident, but other blacks are still going to fly. one more thing. if ANY flight attendant, NO MATTER WHAT COLOR feels threatned, they can have ANYONE removed, FIRST CLASS, BUISNESS OR ECONOMY. we were trained to "remove the 'threat' on the ground and not have it escalate in the air. thats why they will refuse or remove anyone who is drunk and beligerant. i am in no way endorsing what they did. cooler heads should have prevailed and a better solution should have been found.
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bigheadbull2
Comment: iwannsay please stop chile you gettin me in trouble here at work.
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Name:
iclaudius
Comment: You all are CTFU in here today. LOL @ Priceless>DCGG
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Name:
Iwannasay
Comment: Hey - has anyone heard the story from someone OTHER than Mo'nique? I mean, would she go on TV and say, "Well yes, I was belligerent and threatening and they DO throw off people acting that way no matter what their color..." But I do agree that probably it could have been handled better, if all that we heard so far is true.
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bigheadbull2
Comment: True Sigma when I go to be a platform artist at shows I always carry on my dryer cause I learned the hard way what can happen when it is stored with the rest of the luggage. I also had a beautiful LV duffle broken into (the real one, I don't do Canal street) and because I had the registration papers America West replaced it. The bag was almost 15 years old at the time but in pristine condition. Airline do not care about your belongings at all. What they don't lose , they break into
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Name:
Iwannasay
Comment: I did refer to you as "Bigbullhead2" didn't I? "Bigheadbull2" puts it a whole different spin on my feelings for you....
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Name:
SanDiego
Comment: what's the web site for Steve radio station??????????
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Name:
queeniebunz
Comment: Y'all trippin'. I've never been treated badly by the airlines - none of them and I've flown American, Continental, US Air, United, Airtran, Southwest, Northwestern, JamaicaAir and a couple in Japan and I don't get treated badly because I am polite and cordial to the airline staff. Ghetto Monique - come on. She got loud and they put her out like they banned Snoop, also in Soulplane...interesting...LOL
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Name:
Priceless
Comment: goodnplenty, I totally agree ... no need to boycott any airline cuz this could have happened on any airline ... I had my issue with US Air years ago and did not fly that airline for many years but I got over it .... the key thing for Mo to accomplish is a public apology from UA but they will do it again to someone else
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sigmascribe
Comment: I'm still a bit curious as to why the attendant approached Mo'Nique. That screams attitude on the attendants part.IMO. The beef was between the attendant and the stylist..Mo did not know about anything until the attendant told her to check "her people". If I read correctly.
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Name:
Priceless
Comment: queenie, just cuz you have not experienced poor service on an airline doesn't mean that many others haven't ... that's great for you but is not everybody's story
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Name:
bigheadbull2
Comment: It's ok dear I didn't not take it the wrong way at all I'm stickly dickly too LOL
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Iwannasay
Comment: Well, she was pretty crude on the view so something tells me she was just being herself and it's NOT just her act. However, I thought it annoying of BW and the others to act all tight-azzed over it, I mean, surely they've seen her act? Every other word is F this, F that. (Word to Mo'nique - 'F' loses its impact when you use it every 5th word!)Oh and one last comment from me (to your delight) - I never was a Star Jones fan & feel she got what she earned for a variety of reasons, BUT - I cannot imagine her being as crass as Mo'Nique! Mo puts Star in proper perspective on the crass-to-class sliding scale! Bye, y'all.
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bigheadbull2
Comment: ooooh it let me say dickly
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Name:
indipindintthnkr
Comment: They are so confused at United.
I used United this month to send my son to another state. I purchased round trip tickets (e tickets) on line and when I picked up the out going ticket I had to use the same credit card to print out the E ticket. O.k since my son's under age and would not be traveling with the credit card, I asked how does he get his ticket when he returns. I got; I had to pay 50 dollars for them to print out the ticket (not necessary); go to future ticketing they can print it out (they don't); just go to the counter and have him show id and they'l print it out for him when he's ready to return (correct answer). Sadly, one of the incorrect responses (go to future ticketing) came from a floor supervisor. Also, even if the airlines did honor these services, ALL employees should be aware to some extint what they offer...at minimum, a supervisor should.
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sigmascribe
Comment: What was crude about Mo on the VIEW??? Baabara calling her children "creatures" was.....
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Name:
Priceless
Comment: bigheadbull, I'm still cracking up at stickly dickly ... I thought it was strictly dickly
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Name:
Priceless
Comment: sigma, say what?! how did the creature from the black lagoon come to call Mo's kids creatures?
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Iwannasay
Comment: OK I'm still here and I HEARD that! Flaunting hairy legs and talking about stinking armpit hair. If you don't know that would offend most people (or at least make them bring up a little breakfast)then we need someone other than me to set you straight.
Bigbullhead - what are you doing? sittin around looking up nasty words in the dictionary? You're making me feel, uh...prickly! I'm outta here!
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ImJustAsking
Comment: Sigma< I watched that tape of the view as well and that could have gotten VERY tense. Especially when Monique threatened to slap Joy and Joy was like "i'm stronger than I look" and then Barbara told Monique, "remember, WE stay YOU leave"
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Name:
ImJustAsking
Comment: PriceyPrice< YES she did call them creatures, and later Monique told her that hairy legs was a 'black woman thing' umm...really?
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Name:
Priceless
Comment: dayum I need to see this clip of Mo on The View
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Name:
Priceless
Comment: IJA, it's some pretty hairy pank women running around my office *spying one walking by* but I believe in shaving the legs and the pits ... Mo need to speak for herself on that one *snicker*
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Monique has a witness of sorts. Al Sharpton says he was on the phone with her when some of it went down and can
vouch for her mistreatment.
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Name:
sigmascribe
Comment: I do know more Black than White women with hair on their legs, that's a personal thing. It seemed as though they were trying to call her out. She was behind the desk and they brought it up. I don't watch the show enough I guess to understand. But for Baabara to call anyone's child or children "creatures"....that's not acceptable.
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Name:
Priceless
Comment: sigma, on that note I am going to have to out the women on The View for looking under the table at Mo's legs in the first place .... CTFU! and Rosie ain't even on board yet
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Name:
sigmascribe
Comment: Everyone, it was good chatting with you today.
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Name:
ImJustAsking
Comment: Price< On some real sh!t, I wanna conduct a poll on this subject. There's a lady here at my job who is a straight diva from head to knee. And she INSISTS on wearing skirts with those hairy gams. Monique says that she does shave her armpits because the hair underneath can produce a "smell." I actually didn't start shaving until highschool b/c my mother never did so I was never taught to...but she didn't have hair on her legs.
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Name:
Winn30344
Comment: Watch and see someone is going to come up with an explanation of why calling Monique's children "creature" shouldn't be anything to get upset about because....
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Name:
shulamite
Comment: Victornator - what you wrote was so well stated I am posting it again. This is all that had to happen and it would have been over. As far as the FA, sorry but any successful company's model is "the customer deserves the benefit of the doubt, which Monique et al definitely didn't get. She's right to boycott. Victor wrote ---> : "This whole thing was blown out of proportion and I blame the flight attendants and Monique's hair stylist. First, once all the baggage has been loaded under the plan, it is the FLIGHT ATTENDANTS job to make sure there is a place to store any stuff that would normally fit into the overhead compartment. Second, we all know that if you do not have a first class ticket, you are not supposed to not even use the first class sh!t house (under normal circumstances). All Monique's hair stylist had to do is let one of the flight attendants know that there was no room to store the bullet-shaped hair dryer and if there was not overhead compartment room left in coach, I am sure the flight attendant, not Monique's hair stylist, would have put the hair dryer in the available space in first class or up one of their a$$es."
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ImJustAsking
Comment: The convo went like this: "monique, we hear you don't shave your legs" Monique shows'em she doesn't by standing and walking to the front of the table. "let me show you what a real leg looks like." They ask "do you wear pantyhouse with the hair sticking out through them" Monique says "yes I do", Joy goes "I bet that's attractive" CTFU!!
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Name:
Priceless
Comment: IJA, I never automatically equated hairy pits to funk cuz many women and men have pit hair ... sounds like the conversation was just TMI *grimacing*
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Priceless - my point is that if you act like a ghetto rat thinking that by getting loud you will get your way you will end up sitting on the curb at the airport like Monique and Snoop scratching your head wondering why that ghetto crap didn't fly...pun intended. So, even if your flight attendants are snippy or snooty, which they can be, you don't get loud w/them ESPECIALLY after all of the nuts who have injured them and ESPECIALLY since 9/11. What you do is you politely tell the person, with a smile even if it's fake what you are trying to achieve and you get what you want. You DON'T get thrown off the freakin' plane when an opportunity like "The View" awaits you at the other end because you are "keepin' it real"...come on now...priorities...and that's why the crass/crude/triflin'/ghetto/thin people hating hairy-legged beast got thrown off the freakin plane.
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Priceless
Comment: queen, that is my point ... as far as I know she did not get ghetto with the flight attendants ... I have only seen her recount the story on Entertainment Tonight so I don't know how may versions of the story it is, but what I do know is the airlines can over react even when you are trying to work with them
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yunvme
Comment: I dont believe Mo got ghetto. I think her assistant did. Monique had her assistants back and as a result they both got kicked off. The problem was really with her entourage. She spoke up about what she felt was an injustice- so it was decided to just kick them both off.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >yunvme - when you are traveling w/somebody who gets ghetto, you fix it, you don't "have their back" - how ig'nant is that? COME ON!!!!
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kbig
Comment: Here we are back to Mo'nique aka Kool-Aid. Well, if youi saw 'The View' all she was sporting was an IHOP French wave plastered to her head, so all that for a blow dryer she didn't use anyway (from the looks of it). I've had my luggage searched in Atlanta, well before 9/11. Blow dryers get checked. It happens. Mo'Nique was in Chicago, already as racist as Alabama (lived there, so don't front), and she got fronted on the plane. Whatever. Her stint on 'The View' made me feel sorry for her for the first time ever. Barbara and the ladies were clownin' on her and the more they talked, the more simple as$ed she got, talking about 'stink' on underarm hair. She's just not funny and it showed that she was a bull in a lily white china shop. She should have stayed at home. She won't be getting that job. You can see it on www.defamer.com. Scroll down to 7/25 and watch her swap meet azz.
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thebaddestchick
Comment: GHETTOFABU.BLOGSPOT.COM
FOR MONIQUE ON THE VIEW.
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MidtownATL
Comment: Unfortunately, racism does exist and so does ignorance. I am certain that at one time or another we have all experienced some form of racism while traveling. I was on a Continental flight with my two children in tow. I asked the FA for two headphones, one for each child. The FA (white) gave me one headphone and damn near ran down the aisle while I am trying to get this %*$!(es attention. She comes back down the aisle and I ask her for a second set of headphones, she goes and stays a good minute and comes back with some broke azz headphones. By this time I am good and pizzed and I had to tell her, "I'm sorry if someone has offended you in any way, but I would appreciate it if I could get the same service you are providing to the other people flying on this plane. I am sure I paid the same, if not more, than they did. I have tried to get headphones for my children to no avail." After that she was all nicey nicey, brought the damn headphones and calmed her azz down.
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musbdherbs
Comment: queenie..I don't think there's been ANY report that Monique was "ghetto" In fact SHE said that she was calm, spoke in a even tone..BUT was still kicked off the plane. It's obvious that u don't like Mo which I now c y u responded the way u have in this thread. Mo=guilty...Black=guilty. I gives a HOT DAMN about "smile and take it" after I've paid $300 for a damn ticket. Fk Outta Here W/That Shyt. Treat me as u would ne1 else and if u don't..houston..we have a problem
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bigheadbull2
Comment: Priceless... well you obviously got the point ms girl btw where have you been?
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ladybyrd
Comment: gingerg > She called Al Sharpton while she was on the plane. She should have called her attorney.
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sigmascribe
Comment: I was able to come back;-) {kbig}I didn't perceive Mo's visit to the View the same as you, at all. It seemed TO ME, as though they were trying to get their laugh off Mo. But she stood in what SHE does. Just because I think shaved legs look nice doesn't mean I should tell her that she HAS to do it. She came to visit them and that's what they brought up...is a riddle to me. And they already know who will be sitting in that seat come September.
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sigmascribe
Comment: ladyb}Al is an attorney and an activist.{kbig}It was a hood dryer, not a blow dryer:-)
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Mimi
Comment: what does her being thick have to do with anything?
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khufu
Comment: LOL"waitress in the air" that's some funny shat.....no, it' s not always racism...sometimes it's cultural supremacy...sometimes it's a bad day...sometimes it cultural difference.....who the hell knows> however AGAIN sometimes, especially at war, the race card is a brilliant stratgey to achieve desired results.....
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Iwannasay
Comment: Oh lawd - msbdherbs - yes, it must! Of COURSE Mo'Nique herself said she was all clam and restrained (see my previous comment)- she may be ghetto but she aint stoopid! And as for MidtownATL and her sad (sniff!) story -it's folks like YOU who drive all our service jobs to foreigners cause nobody wants to put up with your mile-long dissertation on how much you paid for your airfare! You think the stew knew the headphones were broken and would then them out? Culd she not have been pulled aside by 5 other people demanding something NOW and was trying to satisfy everyone? You are such a victim!
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katee
Comment: robin givens was on the view today and did a great job. but i'm a HUGE robin fan, so whatever she does, i support. otherwise, i would not have watched the view. i was glad to read mo told joy she'd smack her. that's hilarious!!! damn, i now really hate those broads. go monique!
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khufu
Comment: McNasty..you and WIllie think alike...trust me
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sigmascribe
Comment: The View has had more Black women on in the last month than the entire time they've been on the air. WOW.
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ladybyrd
Comment: sigmascribe> I'm sure she called Al Sharpton the activist. Al hasn't argued a case in minute, if my memory serves me correctly. Mo'Nique should have put a ticket with HER name on it. You can't have someone from COACH putting items in FIRST CLASS.
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CrzyLdy16
Comment: HAHA- "air waitresses"- that is SO TRUE! Maybe that is the problem- they don't recognize their true role. We are the customers and they are the waitresses. Their job is to serve meals/snacks, make sure everyone is confortable, etc. I think some of them feel they have power and are comparable to the pilots! Not! I have witnessed nasty air waitresses being nasty for no reason at all. You wouldn't expect your waitress/waiter/server on the ground to be rude and obnoxious- neither should the ones be in the air.
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ladybyrd
Comment: sigmascribe> I agree about the View. I think they are trying to prove a point or do damage control.
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kbig
Comment: sigmascribe- I hear you. A hood dryer on a trip to NY for two days is some silly mess. Again, I could have done her hairstyle with some Wrap n'Tap'n and a headscarf. It wasn't that serious, but she's entitled to travel with what she wants. I thought she was slow on the come up on 'The View', circling the table and rambling about shaving and sh(t. Oh well, she'll be on the cover of 'Essence' for the 4th time this year and tell us all about it and her open marriage. Yawn.
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SilentJay
Comment: It is a shame that in this post 9/11 world, anything on an airplane can misconstrude as a potential threat to airline safety. How is anyone suppose to feel safe on a plane knowing that the slightest conflict (however trivial it may be)can turn into "Passenger 57". Now that I have said that, let me say this. I find myself kind of agreeing with McNasty in sense in that Mo'Nique should have known better than to try to work the overhead luggage loophole rule and just checked the damn hair dryer. It's not like could have used it on the plane anyway. Since 9/11 any person acting out towards flight staff(even it was justified)will get you butt put off the plane. It's only been five years since 9/11 but does seem like some people want to forget about how fragile life is and do thier own thing regardless of the safety of others. Look she was on a PUBLIC airplane, her personal grooming itmes were not more important than following Airline regualtions. And if that meant she would have to get a new hairdryer when she landed in New York well then gahdummit she would just have to get a new one. No body regardless race, gender, money or fame has more rights on a PUBLIC flight just because they paid for first class tickets. Some of these black celebrities like Mo'Nique and Snoop seem to have forgotten what world we live in now. I'm deeply soory for whatever pain or humiliation she suffered but since this whole thing started by trying to bootleg her way around the same rules that you and I have to follow on the plane,I don't feel incredibly sorry for her. I don't disagree with the idea the flightattendance were possibly motivated by racism but I think Mo'Nigue made the mistake of giving them the ammunition they needed to put her and her crew off the plane. Don't worry about me I don't plan flying United but I felt like McNasty kind had a point there and some you of guys were missing that. You may fire when ready.
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SilentJay
Comment: Oh and yes Willie1986 is a hater. Hey Willie try sticking to the issue and lay off the name calling. It just brings all of us down to a base level of disrespect that we as a people need stop subjecting each other to.
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ss69054
Comment: Whew, she told Joy she would smack her??? I really missed that then. Well, just to keep it real. Hairy legs, armpits, chin and mustaches ARE NOT sexy on any woman regardless of race. I think it is trifling and an excuse she made for being lazy and nasty. Yuck! Hairy legs!
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Iwannasay
Comment: Maybe Mo shoulda called - Star Jones! That woulda been priceless!
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MidtownATL
Comment: Iwannasay, just so you know... I was being very patient and nice to this young white female FA. Racism is what it is of course, IF you have EVER experienced it, then you would know. I would say its a GOOD DAY day when a sister or brother can say that they have never been discriminated against or experienced any racism!
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ladybyrd
Comment: kbig > LOL... Wrap N' Tap'n and a scarf. LOL
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musbdherbs
Comment: Uhm...Silent..uhm..did u read nething that was written in the 200+ posts? Have u ever flown on an airline? Did u know that at check-in, they determine what "does" and what "doesn't" belong on a plane. If her hair dryer was going to be a problem...even if they didn't stop her at check-in...she would've been stopped at the security gate. THOSE are part of the 911 procedures you're talking about..which in this case is secondary. If you and McNasty are suggesting that we should take extra, extra care to not place APPROVED check-in items on a flight, then I'll just say...uhm...ok..if u say so.
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katee
Comment: okay, i'm just going to come out and say it, mo needs gastric bypass. you know you were thinking it!! can't shave probably because it's too uncomfortable to bend over. i luv you mo, but it's now time for tough luv. but f*** united!!!
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Iwannasay
Comment: MidtownATL - experiencing bad service is universal. Everyone goes thru it. You never gonna be HAPPY or at peace if you let every little thing get to you, if you see yourself as the downtrodden, the lesser. Plus that, if you give in and show you've been offended, then the offender wins. Do you want that? And then yes, you really are the victim. I have experienced discrimination in MANY ways and for MANY years, but I know who I am and no one can touch my personal dignity and integrity. Alrightie then?
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ImJustAsking
Comment: Musb< I wasn't very clear with regard to how not having the hair dryer would have stopped this incident. Take the hair dryer out and pretend it was her purse or carry on bag, the situation remains what it is.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Star's replacement. Let me tell you all who will get that job - B. Smith.
That's right. She is head and shoulders above everyone else.
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Name:
musbdherbs
Comment: Imjus...fortunately I didn't make that argument. But, apparently...there are people who believe that it would've. Go figure!
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Name:
MidtownATL
Comment: Iwannasay, what I wanna say is nobody wants to be BLATENTLY disrespected, ignored or treated like shyt. If a person is made to feel this way, then expect some response.
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Southernbelle
Comment: Sorry Monique, I can't roll with you on this one. Holler at me if they throw you off for being a person of African descent. Holler at me for being thrown off for being a woman. Heck, you can even holler at me for being thrown off for being overweight. But over a hairdryer? WTF Even Al Sharpton couldn't justify this on the TJMS show this morning.
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Iwannasay
Comment: Whatever you say. Have a nice day!
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Name:
OSUN
Comment: Musb I went to Cali 2 weeks ago and made pink panties. I got myself drunk offa one.
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mamawoo
Comment: I absolutly agree w/everthing monique did...It's about time we start standing up & stop allowing our selves to be discriminated against.I know I won't be flying united airlines EVER& I'll make sure to pass it on....
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JustCurt
Comment: Daggggggggggggggggggggg Iwannasay! Do what you do :-)
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SilentJay
Comment: Yes I have been on a airplane recently and the point I was making was this. Since we already know that what ever rules the MAN comes up with tend to go double for us. A better tactic for Mo'Nique to take was simply not bring with one plane to begin with.
She should have packed it the rest of luggage that she wasn't carrying with her. Yeah I have been a on plane lately and had my shoes checked for explosives and I have to explain to the TSA people that I have metal washers in both hips so that when the damn detector went off I wouldn't have a problem. I'm just saying the airlines are dickheads and we all know it. The hair dryer should have either been with the other luggage or just stayed with her hairdresser. You shouldn't put yourself through all that potential drama over hair dryer(Even if it turns out your are right)
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Iwannasay
Comment: I am Queen of the World.
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Name:
RMP7772000
Comment: To Willie1986, you have a very dirty mouth.I was called a black N.Y. %*$!( by a little black boy 2 weeks ago in south caroilina while his mother watched. Would you like it if your mother, sister, woman if you got one and daughter was called a %*$!(?? You are the type that teaches our children to be disrespectfull and grow to have a bad future! You need some mental help NOW! SS69054, your right about the Cum By YA moments. Goldie1 say it!
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Name:
RMP7772000
Comment: Honeymack you are so right about willie1986. He is a sick man!
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Name:
libraluv1969
Comment: jus wanted to say that racism is alive and well in every part of the world today, so although this is not a shock to any of us that share african american heritage it is a slap in the face and as a people we should look into coming together against corporations that treat us this way. Oh yeah and for Willie 1986 u sound about as ignorant as the entire united airlines staff. Try being more constructive and less destructive it will get u farther in the long run....
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Name:
shag11
Comment: I recently left working for an airline. First, racism does still exist in America, but there are rules. I once had Judge Joe Brown coming off of a flight I met at the gate. I said hello, and he spoke.
When the flight attendants got off, they were upset and had to report the fact that he wouldn't put his carry-on bag in the overhead bin.
I worked for the airline for five years, four of them after 9/11. Everyone got scrutiny, the difference was, if the person was black, in their minds, it was always because of their race.
We need to get over that folks. We use it so much, til when it really is about race, the air is out of the argument because we've used it way too much.
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marcelr
Comment: PLEASE! STOP girl. You are making a fool out of yourself with this. Everyone that flies the skies now knows that you don’t mess with ANYTHING while on a plane. You do as you are told. You don’t give attitude EVER. And when done, you say, “thank you”. If you had done as asked, you’d be fine now. Plain and simple. Even if you thought it was strange or odd. The rest of us don’t want to fly with a “miss thing attitude”. Peace / Out
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marcelr
Comment: ONE more thing. Racism is not a part of this. Even Mo'Nique, affected name and all, did not suggest that. Why do you have to always run to racism. YES - it does exist, still. Very much so, but call it out when it is there. Not for this silly BS. I live in NYC and see it all the time. Not here. I was asked to identify my luggage and answer a few questions once when my luggage somehow did not get tagged as having passed security. I simply did as I was asked and that was the end of it. There was NO RACISM involved.
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Name:
skoolboysbad
Comment: If Mo said its her dryer why should she be questioned. They wouldn't question a white woman if she said it was her and her people wanted to store HER STUFF above her seat! Its sad white people don't respect the black dollar and no matter what they will try to feel superior in any way they can!
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Name:
skoolboysbad
Comment: If we make an example out of THESE RUDE flight attendants I bet you the next time we "black people" get on a plane they will think twice about treating us in the typical condescending tone.
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