EURweb.com - Black Entertainment | Black News | Urban News | Hip Hop News | Black Entertainment
Sat, Nov 21, 2009

Newsletter Sign-up:

News on Michael Jackson, 50 Cent, Beyonce & More

EURweb
Back to the Article » Click Here
Click here to post your comments.
Name: Brandon
Comment: Give me a break!!! Mo'nique was wrong. United Airlines is apologizing, because no company wants bad publicity - but they acted appropriately in the first place. The flight attendant had no way of knowing to whom the hair dryer belonged -- they could've just been friends, and Mo'nique could've been trying to help her girl out. While that may sound okay to some folks, it's against company policy. As for the "so called" altercation - interferring with a flight crew is a federal offense. Because they were still on the ground, all that happened was they were thrown off the plane -- if they had been in the air, they would've landed and she would've been arrested. Now she wants to make a mountain out a molehill, when she was the one who overreacted. She should just accept their apology, accept the free tickets they're offering, and move on -- trying to drag this thing out is only going to make her look like a diva who wants special privileges because she's famous.
Name: justmythoughts
Comment: Since none of us were there, it is hard to say who should have done what. However, many times a situation arises simply based on how one is approached or spoken to. I am sure that this is not just about a hair dryer. I don't know Monique from Boo, but I don't get the impression that she would just be "going off" for nothing.
Name: khufu
Comment: here we go again...........first of all, none of us were there and all we have to go on is Monique's account; our own experiences and our own beliefs and the historical expereinces of Black people (as RACISM is the charge--one cannot dismiss the application/consideration of historical racism in analyzing the situation).......based on that, I have to support Mo's position...again, it's less about the hair dryer and more about HOW THE SITUATION WAS HANDLED especially HOW MONIQUE WAS TREATED...apparently Monique was there and based on that FACT, it was how the situation was handled that makes Mo' say that "racism" was the motive..AGAIN, MORE THAN LIKELY, if it had been a white celebrity (or maybe the average white person), it would have been handled differently...let's see...name your average white celeb and ask yourself the question: "Would the stewardess have disbelieved THEIR claim that the dryer belonged to them?" I dont think so......
Name: khufu
Comment: blet's get this party started right!! BRANDON... how are you going to speak as if you were there? ANd how can you say what Monique should have done? Is she not a grown azz free humna being who has the right not only to say whatever she want but, more importantly, TO DEFEND HERSELF?
Name: robijoa
Comment: BEATING EURWEB TO THE PUNCH: Prince's second wife is seeking a divorce asap!
Name: TJthemilitant
Comment: Hmmmmm...Don't think MO' was wrong on this one B....Some of those flight attendants could use a strong dose of sensitivity training..Most of them were plucked off a farm somewhere in Oklahoma any damn way and have no concept of Black folk..What could have been a simple response may have been taken as a threat to becky 'nem...Let's face it, them b*tches are straight scared of us which is the reason for their disdain for us....Now the airlines want to apologize?...The sh*t happened days ago?..Where was ya at?...
Name: TJthemilitant
Comment: Sorry Robijoa, you ain't beat nobody to the punch..PRINCE'S divorce was yesterday's news..LOL..Archive baby, archive!
Name: HoneyMack
Comment: I have seen many interviews and read many articles about Monique, she seems to be a very articulate and smart person. Monique knows that being black and a "phat" sista she already has strikes against her in Hollywood. Do you honestly believe, she got "ghetto" on the plane? I'm sure if she did the individuals that witnessed the account would be more than happy to "out" a black person on tv. Ya'll know they don't care and will take any oppurtunity to put "us" on front street and show we still are not capable of being reserved no matter how much money we make. As far as it being racist, that is hard to prove unless she actually heard them say something in regards to "black". Maybe it just was not handled in a tactful manner. The article states it as a male stewardess, maybe he had some issues w/someone pulling his "hoe" card and challanging him. I am a sista who is surrounded by 25 "non black" men in my office, trust whenever I saw anything, hell i can even say goodmorning, and they think I have an attitude or ask "what's wrong w/you". Don't judge until you have walked a mile in their shoes.
Name: goodnplenty1957
Comment: As an ex-flight attendant with United. (yes i was one of the few STRAIGHT-BLACK-MALE flight attendants), based at JFK. i felt proud when i saw blacks on my flight, especially when we flew to from JFK-LAX and the black stars, DENZEL, PATTI, EARTHA, LL, MEKHI, DANNY GLOVER, MONTELL, JASMINE GUY, etc..all of them have been on my flights one time or another. the look on my white counterparts when TREACH, and other rappers came on the flights with their rope chains, rolexes, etc..they act like those must not be real. %*$!ed me off..because they were also sitting in 1st or buisness class which should have told them they cold afford the bling bling..it was very rare to see blacks on the united flights because the prices of their seats were, and still, the highest in the airlines. the airline caters to the white buisness traveler. when i got my current job i travel on other carriers, ATA, AA, NW, etc. my suprise was to see the number of blacks on the other carriers. anyway..back to the subject at hand. bags for economy go in the overhead in economy and if their isnt any room, then they go up front or wherever they can fit them. once monique said it was my bag, my assistant was carrying it and stowing it for me up here..that SHOULD HAVE BEEN end of story. during the flight no one is allowed to come forward to the first class for security reasons. 9-11, they came from the back forward. not saying thats where they will come from. but never the less. the flight attendants acted without thinking and it should have been a better way to approach it. i am not going to boycott any carrier, because it could happen on ANY carrier. oprah dont fly UA because of an incident, but other blacks are still going to fly. one more thing. if ANY flight attendant, NO MATTER WHAT COLOR feels threatned, they can have ANYONE removed, FIRST CLASS, BUISNESS OR ECONOMY. we were trained to "remove the 'threat' on the ground and not have it escalate in the air. thats why they will refuse or remove anyone who is drunk and beligerant. i am in no way endorsing what they did. cooler heads should have prevailed and a better solution should have been found. but the last thing any passenger should do is raise their voice to a level where ANY flight attendant will feel threatned.
Name: goodnplenty1957
Comment: one more thing... Any Captain will remove that person ON THE GROUND instead of dealing with it in the air where the only place the plane can go IS DOWN. Deal with the situation after it happens. you will get better results. It could also be at this time Monique is possibly doing this to stay in the limelight. I hope not, because she dont need this type of publicity. you are already in the public eye and at the top of your game right now. (Remember Janet and the titty-gate?) she was on top and didnt need that type of publicity. I support you Mo, but ask yourself this question...If you were on another carrier, and the flight atttendants where BLACK, same situation happened, what what would you do? Claim racism and not fly that carrier? If you got all that money, why was your entourage traveling in economy while you were traveling in first? Or better yet, GET A PRIVATE PLANE AND YOU WONT HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
Name: HoneyMack
Comment: >>TJthemilitant, u are correct "they" are all already scared of "us" from jump street....>>goodnplenty1957, since she was a guest of the View, they foot the tab for the trip. I'm sure they set it for only Monique 1st class, all others coach.
Name: goodnplenty1957
Comment: >>honeymack..thats a possiblity. i used to see all the time, the husband and wife sitting in first class, while the children and nanny sitting in coach. i couldnt understand that..and then we would have to keep telling the parents that the nanny and the children werent allowed up in first class, so they would have to go back to them. when i traveled with my son (he is now 21 and travels on his own), we would either sit in first together or economy together.
Name: Monicia
Comment: QQ'N..................HEY STANKALANK,,,,,,,YOU KNOW UNITED FULL OF IT. QQ'N @ MY LITTLE UNITED BEAN BAG PLANE. TAKING IT OUTSIDE TO BURN IT,,,,,,,FUGEM........THEY ARE SO WAY OVERPRICED ANYWAYS.
Name: Monicia
Comment: QQ'N................AH GOOD? YOU WRITING A BOOK OR WHAT? ******GIGGLING**** NEED A PUBLICIST? KNOWS ONE! LMAOOOOOOOOOO
Name: fuzzygoss
Comment: Seems like attendents followed the protocol and conversations around it blew up. Yall know how folx get loud and boisterous. I can just imagine how it went down. Anyway, MoNique needs to simmer down and stop discussing the issue publicly until she's regained her composure. She has to digest the situation and ask if her camp overreacted, what about the protocol she found offensive, blah, blah,blah. B/c to be removed means that incident was about to get ugly. SECURITY!!!!!! LMAO
Name: fuzzygoss
Comment: ^^add on. Since 911 I ain't hating on attendants for being vigilante.
Name: khufu
Comment: anybody read or hear Julian Bond's address to the National Convention of the NACP?
Name: khufu
Comment: here is an excerpt.....Julian Bond....http://www.naacp.org/news/chairman/2006-07-16. html "Moral values" equate to "keeping homosexual illegal immigrants from burning flags." And "racial discrimination", of course, is "a problem of the past which no longer exists." Those who say that "race is history" have it exactly backward - history is race. America, scrambled, after all, spells "I am race...." And America is race - from its symbolism to its substance, from its founding by slaveholders to its rending by civil war, from Johnnie Reb to Jim Crow, from the Ku Klux Klan to Katrina.... Those who engage in declarations and denials to the contrary do not serve our country well.... For example, late last summer the Justice Department conducted a study of racial profiling, which President Bush had vowed to end in America. In the news release describing the study, the administration tried to eliminate any reference to the racial disparities the study found. When the person responsible for the study balked at this, he was removed from his job.... Apparently, the way to end racial profiling is to deny it exists."
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: I really think that if the United didn't think they were in the wrong they would not be pursuing her to apolgize to her. If they had handled the situation correctly, they would make a statement, emphasize homeland security, and come out the winner. Since they are not, I think it's safe to assume Monique was in the right.
Name: HoneyMack
Comment: Got issues w/NAACP at this time, they let Bush sorry @zz speak after he has been president all this time. The only reason he showed his face was because the "voting act" was on the table and he was trying to let "us" know he still likes darkies. Please... the act was renewed for another 25 years although some Republicans think it is too long and should have been shorter. If Bush really wanted to do something he should have made it a law rather than keeping it as an act, umph he feels like he did us a favor. We need to quit taking handouts, and the NAACP should have never let his lily white @zz up in there. Been in "White house" for 2 terms and never once visited one of the largest minority organizations.
Name: khufu
Comment: HONEYMACK repsectuflly dont want to change the focus of the thread..I TOO have issues with the NAACP...however as "there is good in everything" I brought up Julian Bond's speech about RACISM..the fact that we live in a day and age where folks want to believe it doesnt exist or they want to ignore it and point fingers at those who are historical victims of white racism....If Mo said it was rciam, then damm it, how can anyone just simply say "it wasnt"?
Name: YLawdY
Comment: I think United would offer the apology whether they were right or wrong. Airlines do not need bad publicity. As far as Monique goes, if she feels she was disrespected and wronged, that's how she feels. I fully understand and support her desire not to have anything to do with United. I don't spend my money with anyone or any organization that has p*ssed me off. She may decide she overreacted, but obviously there was some provocation. I can picture her terrifying a flight attendant if her big, beautiful self caught an attitude. LOL
Name: HoneyMack
Comment: sorry khufu, did not see your 2nd post until mine was done. I was on a tangent, my bad. You are correct however.
Name: khufu
Comment: HONEYMACK No apologies necessary but thank you for offering! I TOO think the NACP is a sory AZZ organization but it doesnt mean I dont monitor them...I cant constructively critique they azzes without knowing what they doi and AINT DOIN'...LOL..in this case, Elder Bond's speech is on the money!
Name: RationalThinker
Comment: That's the best picture of Monique that I've seen.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: my only curiosity about this whole situation is...why did the assistant bring a hairdryer on the plane in the first place? shouldn't that been packed with the luggage??
Name: YLawdY
Comment: bigchassie...why you gotta go and be logical?
Name: khufu
Comment: BIGCHASSIE what up? well for one...because SHE WANTED TO...if there is no policy that says "Check hair dryers" she exercized her God Given and Constituional rights to bring that sheet on board...number 2..if there is a policy than, oooppps, someone at UA should be fired...and if it was a mistake by UA then that substantiates Mo's position.....
Name: Grace
Comment: She can give me the free tickets.
Name: RationalThinker
Comment: I fly a lot for work and have travelled on most major airlines in coach and first class. I have seen black and white flight attendants with nasty and foul dispositions and some travelers who treat the flight crew like servants. No airline can brag about how well they treat the customer, but if you're on their plane, you HAVE to know how deal with rude flight attendants. You're goal is to get where you're going. You can deal with airline after you land. In Mo'niques case, I can see both sides sharing the blame with what happened. The flight attendants attitude could/should have been better, and Mo'niques response and her peoples actions could have been better. Mo'nique should tell United what she wants from them and then move on. Spending too much time focused on the negative only brings you down.
Name: HoneyMack
Comment: Its a hair dryer not a blow dryer. Do we know the difference? U cannot pack a hair dryer in luggage, its not feasible. BTW, if it would have been broken do u think they would have given her a check for the amount of the dryer, if so when, in enough time to use it for the purpose she brought it for, don't think so. Anyway, if she was NOT allowed to bring it on the plane they would have told her at check-in that the HAIR DRYER is not considered carry-on and needs to be checked through.
Name: fanteeking
Comment: Khufu: You are so brilliant! I just love to see you tear up these assinine observations with PURE REASON AND COMMON SENSE.
Name: thebaddestchick
Comment: From previous threads on the first article, hairdryers are damaged everytime they are packed with luggage. So if her assistant got that far through security and nobody mentioned it. I am safe to say it was ok for her to carry it on. Because if they so crunk about 9/11 like they say ...Security would have told her to put it with her luggage.
Name: OSUN
Comment: Big Chassie someone mentioned this the other day. They should have made her check it before she boarded the plane. There are at least 3 opportunities to check bags when you arrive and begin the boarding process. They should have made her check it then.
Name: khufu
Comment: FANTEEKING thankx but BIGCHASSIE is my girl and I didnt consider he question to be assinine...but FANTEEKING I get you and I apprecite you Namaste
Name: golfebj
Comment: They would have made whoever her assistant was hold it in their lap. You know? UA is obviously in the wrong because they are seeking to apologize. When was the last time any airline has through a media outlet to try and reach someone to issue an apology?
Name: cornbread
Comment: Get a Private Jet Monique. You a big baller, right?
Name: khufu
Comment: Ig"NANT AZZEZ THUS FAR: Brandon, Cornbread, goodnplenty, robija,
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: Speaking of damaged luggage, people, when they say DON'T CHECK ANYTHING BREAKABLE please believe it. On my last flight, I sat by the loading portion of the plane. And everything they load gets abused about 4-6 different times. I know it's easier and faster for them to throw things but they use reckless abandon when doing so. Don't check a bag unless absolutely necessary and pack well. Also, be careful with some of the rolling suitcase bags that you can carry one, on one of my flights, when they couldn't fit anymore of the coach class bags in first class and the captain's hole, they started to check some of them.
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: She should also be upset with BW for calling her kids creatures on the View. Mo'Nique's been surrounded by tacky lately.
Name: MidtownATL
Comment: Good Morning! I see this is an ongoing issue for United. Must be some pizz in the water! Tryin to clean it up quick fast and in a hurry! Had she been caucasian, the policy would have been "the customer is always right."
Name: bigfriend
Comment: This is not racism. How easily this word is used today in the wrong situations. I agree that this could have been resolved easily by talking but if you start acting loud then I agree they should have put her off the plane. I am sure the rest of the people on the plane did not want to hear that for one, and also did not want to be delayed by that dumb stuff. No, not racism. I will be flying United in the future.
Name: LAWW
Comment: >khufu: I'm curious as to why you have problems with the NAACP, I was at the convention this month, and have nothing but respect for the nations oldest and largest civil rights organization which does a great work in spite of "colored" people who do not support it, complaine about it, yet call on it for help whenever someone knocks them or someone they know up-side-the-head. It's funny, Beni' Brith, LaRaza, Coalition of Asian Americans, etc. are not perfect organizations, yet they have the full support of their respective constituants, because their constutuiants understand that although these organizations are not perfect, they perform a service that otherwise would not be performed. Who in your opinion is out there advocating for black folks but the NAACP? the Voting Rights Act was passed without two critical amendments largely because of the work of the NAACP! Forgive me, I digressed. KH..., I do agree with you when you state that if Monique claims racism, that more than likely she is correct. Historically black folks have been and still are mistreated, second guessed, exploited, etc., so it is no great shock that Monique was disrespected on the flight. The fact that it had not taken off, a member of her staff was travelling with her, and wanted to put property of Monique's in Monique's overhead bin should have been sufficient enough evidence for the attendent to step off. Monique should make a public statement as to what happened, and have a rep from United present so that policy is addressed, and hopefully in the future somthing like this won't happen. JMO
Name: khufu
Comment: IGNORANCE!! BIGFRIEND were you there to SEE what happened? If not, how v=can you say that it wasnt?
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW firstly, B'Nai Brith..is the correct spelling LOL...If I were to address your question about the NAACP, it would take away the thread from MO...if you want to email me we can exchange email addresses.....
Name: HoneyMack
Comment: CTFU>> khufu, i saw u coming from a mile away.
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW as for the passing of the Voting Rights act, why is it that it even has to be voted on every 25 years? Is the NAACp addressing this issue? The NNACP is not progressive, pro-actionally and culturally-based enough for me...the organizations you mentioned? they are all "culturally conscious" organizations THAT'S A BIG AZZ DIFFERENCE between them and the NAACP...also, the NAACP is financed by whom?
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW The NAACP's major accomplishments over the last ten years have been what? The NAACP IMAGE AWARDS? The only one I think that was worth any real kidos was when Mifume struck a deal between Black farmers and Cuba......
Name: khufu
Comment: thats PRO ACTIONARY
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW maybe the NAACP should step forward to support Mo...and Oprah..and what are they doing organizationally to PRACTICALLY stimulate economic growth and prosperity to fight poverty...and what are they doing to stimulate Black corporate ownership...and are they supporting Reparations? do they own any businesses or housing? and please enlighten me: what did they do about the devastation caused to Black folks by Katrina?
Name: khufu
Comment: last thing on the NAACP lest I be blamed for hijacking: I think that N'Cobra, NBUF, NOI, Prince Hall Masonic Lodge are some organizations that work for and benefit Black folks...let's ee.....I cant say "The Church" but I will say Rev Floyd Flake is one that does.....
Name: Gemami
Comment: This is just my thoughts on the situation: I don’t think the incident started off as racist but the attendant disrespectful comment to Monique, in my mind, made it racial. Monique has every right to be upset with the airline, however, I think at this time she should at least take their call. She could come up with some plan of actions, like sensitivity training for airline personnel, especially those on that particular flight.
Name: bigheadbull2
Comment: The only reason Bush showed up is because the white house is only 9 blocks from the convention center and it was held in DC. He is the perfect argument for birth control.
Name: chocolattechile
Comment: www.naacp.org
Name: bigheadbull2
Comment: Sorry, but oh yes you can pack a hair dryer in overhead if there is room I do it all the time as I do a lot of hair and trade shows. This is not a rumer.
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: Since Monique has alleged racism (and it's not hard to believe some level of racism may have been involve) let me say a word or two on that. I tend to view racist behaviour on a continuum, of which the more blatant forms of racism (e.g., lynchings, dragging a Black person behind a car, police beatings, etc.) are but a small part. Imagine a racist mindset---I call it "racial compassion disconnect" or RCD---imagine RCD as the setting on the eye of a stove, and society as a pot of water sitting on that eye. When RCD is most intense or on high, the accompanying racist behaviours are more blatant (such as those previously mentioned), and the pot boils quickly. When RCD is moderate, the racist behaviours are more subtle (employer discrimination in the form of hiring/promotion, for example). But even a moderate stove eye setting (medium) can cause a pot of water to boil. It just takes longer.
Name: LAWW
Comment: > K, 1st - thanks for correcting B'Nai Brith, I thought I had it wrong. 2nd since you went there, NAACP was on the ground b/4 the American Red Cross and other relief organizations and has raised more than a half million dollars for Katrina Victims, they are still there, long after the cameras are gone. Regarding the VRA, if you did some research instead of critizing the NAACP (and I don't mean to insult you) you would know that the right to vote will never expire as long as you are an American citizen, however certain PROVISIONS were going to expire, ie: preclearance (section 5) bilingual language assistance (section 203) and federal election examiners (sections 8-9). Re "culturally conscience" what do you mean by that, should the NAACP only advocate for black people? If they did that would they then have the full support of black people? Or would black people then find yet another problem with the NAACP? You list a lot of criticisms, my question to you is what organization has or could address the full list you presented? And if one organization could, would that organization still get the full support of all black folks? I would suggest that you not critize somthing unless you have been a part of it and found that it just did not work, looking at it from the outside instead of from the inside leaves you at a great disadvantage.
Name: SweetieDarlin
Comment: Now I've basically flown American Airlines all my life a my dad was an employee there for 35 years so I can not speak on United's policies, however when the story broke in Chicago, one of the publicist who worked for Monique during the Chicago Promotional leg of Phat Girlz said she was the most pushy demanding woman she ever worked with. It is possible the situation has gotten overblown. Yes Monique can be articulate but seeing years back on the Queen's of Comedy when they were touring around town gave me the impression she had a stank azz attitude. A lot of things she was saying that were passed off as 'just kiddin' were quite nasty. I wonder if that's really her personality? I understand that she felt the was wronged but racism? Perhaps not, it's not as if no one knew who she was, in this day and age it's rare blatant racism is done to celebrity figures because situations like this can occue where the whole world will find out. Usually blatant racism is reserved for folks like us because white folks feel there is not a lot we can do about it. United is no doubt apologizing because no one wants bad publicity even if it isn't necessarily true. As we all know the basic rule of customer service, the customer is always right, even when they are not. Anyway since United is apologizing and Monique is not accepting it, what exactly is she looking for them to do? Is she going to monitor their Flight Attendants treatment of all AA customers from here on out to assure it will never happen again? HMMMM
Name: khufu
Comment: thank you DCDOUGLAS
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: Laww< My problem with the NAACP is that it has not evolved with the times, their rhetoric to the black community is tired and stale and their message (whatever it is) doesn’t speak to us anymore. Many blacks, view the NAACP as a fringe group focused on a narrow agenda that doesn’t seem to look at blacks as Americans as well as black Americans. This is part of the reason why Bush’s speech did not touch on general American economic concerns (inflation, decreasing middle class) or the war in Iraq. These days blacks are not just focused on insular issues. Also, their strategies are tired (boycotts, marches?) they just don’t work anymore. NAACP should be focused on increasing the membership of the black middle class (which has become increasingly saddity and disconnected from the black lower middle class and poor) and using the resources of professional black groups to make policy changes that affect black people. Since racism is systematic now, they need to utilize people IN the system to make changes. For example, there are a variety of black professional groups that meet religiously and are advocating on behalf of blacks, but they are focused by profession (accounting, law, government, business owners, journalists etc). NAACP should be targeting these groups with their message, getting back in the churches, and showing people why they should care about NAACP and why/how they’re children can become future leaders of the organization. They could also work with some of the white groups such as ACORN, and other smaller groups to address affordable housing etc. They need to be reinvented! Right now, with a membership of about 500,000 (a number that hasn’t increased since the ‘40s) they just aren’t relevant. Now, maybe they are doing some of these things…but if they are…nobody knows about it…so… that goes back to my original point of striking the right chord.
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW I am not insulted by your comment...first "Culturally conscious" means having some basis in cultural identity NOT MERLE ETHNIC OR "RACIAL"..If you take ten NAACP membes ina room and ask: "What does it mean to be B;ack?"..you will have at least 8 differetn ansers..If you ask the same 10 if they are "African" probably 1 will say "yes"...now, ask the Asians in the organization about their cultural selves and se what they will say as with the Jews in B'nai Brith..........I know the history of NAACP from DuBois and TRotter with Niagra Movement and the changes after Mary Overton joined forces with DuBois, etc...TRotter left.......and it's always been an organization that was not exclusively for Black folks...not in terms of administration and financial backing anyway.......
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW the NAACp is primarily a pacifist, integrationist organization that does not seem for the cultural, political, social or empowerment for Black folks or any people of colour based on self-sufficiency and independence
Name: MrUnapologetic37
Comment: I'm a little %*$!ed at some of the responses on this board. While I understand we are sharing our opinions about the unfortunate incident with Mo'nique, I have not heard one lone voice speak about customer satisfaction and the gross lack there of on some these airlines. I, personally, have several friends who are inflight attendants from some top airlines: Delta, United, ATA & Southwest. They all have their horror stories about passengers from hell that push them to their limits and how they had to have those persons removed from their flight. In most cases they choosing to eject unruly customers are appropiate. However, after hearing a few more of these stories you begin to since their is a minor power trip going on. Not surprising, huh? Truth told, inflight attendants are underpaid and overworked. Fact! I personally believe that most of them need to find new jobs that aren't so stressful and demanding. I say this because when I pay $150.00 or more for a plane flight I EXPECT to be treated well. No, I don't want you to give me a pedicure, blow my nose or any of that crazy stuff. No! However, if I tell you that an item belongs to me and I want to put it in the overhead bin in my area - that should be the end of it! Whatever happening to sound judgement calls? And yes, I understand that security is heighten thru the roof since 9/11, but don't let that be the excuse or opportunity to mistreat me under the guise that I was posing a threat to others. Mo'nique is NOT a terrorist. She didn't pose a threat to others. It was a misunderstanding that United Airlines should have been more than willing to give her the benefit of doubt on. Was this a racist incident? It could have easily just that - don't discount it! According to my in-flight friends it all depends on the attendant. That's my 50 cent.
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW i have ben a part in NY and GA and I never re-joined because the chapters are run by nn-visionary, incompetent, unexposed and non-progressive individuals who let politiacal agenda and azz kissing keep the orgainzation steeped in non-productivity, mediocrity and stagnation..why did you assume I have never been a member?
Name: khufu
Comment: MrUnapologetic37 now that YOU have brought i to the POST no need be perturbed
Name: khufu
Comment: DITTO to IJA
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW Im sorry....I am an AMerican citizen? Where is the Constitutional basis for my citizenship as a descendant as a former slave? Now, after you answer that---why then does the ACt have to be renewed every 25 years?
Name: Priceless
Comment: This could have happened on any airline so a boycott by all cullud peeps is just not practical, but I understand if she refuses to fly that airline or pay for her staff to fly that airline.
Name: MrUnapologetic37
Comment: I would have to agree with you, Priceless, a boycott would NOT be practical and full participation is sooooooooooo unlikely. I think this type of story should make EVERYONE demand better customer service from these airlines. Some of them have forgotten that we are the customer! And thank you, Khufu, I am no longer angry (chuckle).
Name: LAWW
Comment: >IJAsking.. The NAACP has launched an all out campaign to gain the 35-50 age group in the form of the Leadership 500 Summit, a reception was held on Friday, July 14 for that age group, in an effort to help them to see the need to re-connect with the NAACP, and that they are responsible for the organizations future. A conference was held last year in Sandestin, FL and will be held again in December discussing leadership, economic develoopment, health disparities etc. I beg to differ, but boycotts and marches do work, if you could have seen the thousands of NAACpers, young and old that stormed Capitol Hill two weeks ago, you may feel differently. However, those are not the only means by which the NAACP gets things done, or any group for that matter, there are many other means that the organization uses. But be assured, when black folks get together on an issue, such as opposing a right-wing supreme court nominee, or a store/business that discriminates, or registering people to vote, we are a force to be recogned with. >KU.., knowing the history is one thing, being a part of the future is another. I again ask you, what organization can or has addressed every need of black folks? Not one, but that does not mean we should knock those that are at least stepping out and trying to do something. Should the NAACP and organizations like it just fold up and go away because some black folks don't think they are doing enough. Where would we be then?
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: IJA...Also part of the problem is "us." We have made concerted efforts to "unidentify" ourselves w/the struggle for equality. We get our good gov't jobs, move to the burbs and narrow our focus to those of our income brackets...ie. Jack & Jill, Linx, Boule..etc. How many of these organizations have you heard about championing the "cause?" NAACP is run by baby boomers w/antiquated ideas about how to push our issues to the forefront. Consequently, "WE" have decided that they shouldn't exist because they don't speak to the mass of what our issues are. Yet, "we" don't call on "us" to join these organizations and change it from the inside. It can't happen the other way around. I was listening to Al's talkshow on y'day and he made an EXCELLENT point. "Whenever there's an issues requiring national attention...not even leadership...but just attention, why is it that I [Al] am the one who's called? Why can't they call on our other black "leaders" to support these causes." If u think about that...it's too much truth in his statement. I'm sure everyone has heard me say it b4, if not the NAACP then who? If not AL then who? Do u ever c Barak Obama out in the trenches? Do u ever c Condi? Actually, do u ever c Oprah? So, again what are we left w/?
Name: Priceless
Comment: Sweetie, I know you can't believe that bunk you posted ... being famous does not protect black people from racism ... didn't Danny Glover say he still can't get a friggin cab? He's more well known to pankie than Mo'Nique any day
Name: khufu
Comment: MrUnapologetic37 you bring up an excellent point!! I am a staunch advocate as my rights as a consumer!!! We need to exert those rights as well..more %*$ertively and more aggressively!! Ever read Uniform Commercial Codes?
Name: khufu
Comment: that's "..of my rights..."
Name: LAWW
Comment: >KH... VRA: the ACT does not have to be renewed, the provisions have to be renewed. The right to vote is law, however provisions have to be authorized. Just like with any law, if circumstances dictate that a law has to be ammended, it takes and act of congress to change a law, thus, the added provisions, that would from time to time, in this case, 2007 to be re-authorized. K, you say that you were a part of the NAACP, was it in a leadership role? If not, why? Surly your not suggesting that because some members acted like fools you wrote the entire association off. If you had a child, would you suggest to him/her that she no longer be involved in a group or organization that was trying to do good, just because some of it's members were idiots?
Name: khufu
Comment: LAW...What exactly does "Launched a campaign" mean? I mean REALLY..they are always launching some campaign or issuing a press release or calling a press conference...man, where is some money available through the NAACP for eome economic empowerment? When was the last time yu saw the NAACP IN THE COMMUNITY address drus, sexual abuse, mis-education, etc......?
Name: Priceless
Comment: musb, Al be saying some shat on the real too ... he tries to provide leadership but one past mistake and the perception of him being a media whore seems to discredit him ... I have not heard him say anything that wasn't on point about us in many years now and he has not loss his spunk to call pankie on their shat and not get all coonified just cuz they invite him to talk or break bread with them like some of the other blacks
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW to ansswer your quaetion YEP and you cant lead folks where they want to go no matter how much they say they do...I was trying to get them to follow the by-laws set out by national and they didnt want to...all they wanted to do was have BBQ fundraisers...
Name: khufu
Comment: nLAWW now the NACP in NY i had expereince with was a damn shame and disgrace...cronysim, neoptism, idiocy...like most Black organizations they say: "Our memberships is low we need more peope...we need young people with fresh ideas..or just new people with new blood and new ideas..." and when we do join them, THEY fight ur azzes, asasinate our azzes and run us away 'cause they REALLY dont want to change...I belong to a MAsonic Lodge and it's the same thing....same thing in MOST churches...Young people say "Fukk that..who needs that sheet?"
Name: LAWW
Comment: KH.. Who is "they"? and I guess we've gotten down to the bottom line, money. As long as the NAACP is not giving black folks money, they are of no use??? Let me ask you this, when was the last time YOU were in the community, addressing drugs, sexual abuse, mis-education, etc...? the NAACP is doing it's part, they've been sticking their heads out and getting slapped (mostly by black folks) for almost 100 years. How long you been in the trenches????? >MUS, you are right. If not the NAACP, then who?
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW I would tell my child: "Learn Spanish, Hindi, Chinese, Korean and French and go out into the new global world and rememebr your Africaness ALWAYS but seek like minded people...people who have the same CONSCIOUSNESS YOU HAVE..." SO if that means joing the East Indian Cultural Committee over the NAACP join that shhet. Just make sure you develop healthy, respectful and lucrative relationships that will benefit AFRICANS even if they dont know it or appreciate it.."
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW Unfair and hypocritical..youre ASUMING I am not in the trenches or doing anything...you dont know me...let's stay focused on the objective analysis of NAACP and Black organizations.....AGINS N'COBRA, NBUF, NOI are organizations that are doing the work....I think Floyd Flake is a brother who is progressive and pro-actionary....let's see..the Prince HAll Masonic Lodge because of it's membership....did you knw that most every Black leader is a PH brother? Let me back pedal for a momemnt: I think that the NAACP has its place. I think it needs re-direction....It's not as relevant as it need to be..or as important or effective as many think.....on the money issue..Im sorry: did money become irrelevant and obsolete.........?
Name: LAWW
Comment: K.., let me back up, went off on a tangent. Let's take a certain group of folks, the Jews, do you think for a moment they don't have discontent and all of those other things you mentioned in their organizations? Yet, they see the big picture, the need to work together. We have got to develop a stick to it, hang in there attitude. Our ancestors of old had back biting, fights, disagreements on those slave ships, but when it came to turning some of then around, fighting their captors, they worked as a unified group. Don't give up on us. I know I'm getting preachy, so let me stop.
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW POwer (Fukk "equality") is based on conntrol of resources, control of industry and money....Im sorry: does the NAACP deal with that in any way? In THIS NEW WORLD, it's about CONTROL OF RESOURCES not CONSUMERISM.....as old as the NAACP is, let's compare it's net worth to B'Nai Brith or some Chinese equivalent? Does the NAACP own resources? Create jobs? Build automobiles? Export or import goods? Sheet....do they manufacture their own merchandise? If not, do they spend that money with Black businesses? Oh, get this...the NAACP Image AWards..forget content for a moment (sad azz content) let's talk productiona nd distribution...does the NAACP have it's own production facility or distribution channels?
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW Im with yu..AND
Name: Priceless
Comment: khufu, actually if you were going to stay on subject you would be talking bout Mo'Nique and her perceived racism with United not the NAACP *smirk* you hijacked this thread more than the women yesterday switching to grease talk *snicker*
Name: LAWW
Comment: K.., Floyd Flake is definately a progressive brother, who gives back to his community, and he's even a republican! :-) (i think).
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW Im with yu..I WILL ALWAYS BE COMMITTED TO ANY BLACK ORGANIZATION AS LONG AS THEY AINT REPUBLICAN OR ANTI-AFRICAN 'CAUSE, LIKE YOU AND MOST OF THE POSTERS HERE, I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE, However I will still critique they sorry azzes...you know how WE DO as Black folks....I will call some of the people here idiots, ignorqant, etc and all that other sheet but will defend them in a minute: DONT PUT YOUR HAND ON MY BROTHER OR MY SISTER ..a "Black code" I will always live by..so NAACP aint sheet...but if I had a million, I'd support them 'cause I understand that the presence of Black folks is powerful and the name still has SOME meaning....
Name: khufu
Comment: PRICELESS sorry and apologies...Im outtie...damn, like the women huh? damn.....
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: Laww< I am very glad to hear about those efforts on the part of the NAACP. But I am sitting at my desk in my chushy job reading about that from YOU not from any news release by the organization. THAT’S where that information needs to come from. They need to find outlets to let us know what they are doing. I agree that blacks are a force when we get together on an issue but I really don’t think that blacks understand WHY the supreme court nominees affect them, WHY Bernanke’s raising the interest rate affects them etc etc for whatever reason blacks are not grasping the importance of these things and the NAACP is not actively (as far as we can see) making those cases. And I still believe that boycotts and marches are antiquated forms of exacting actual change although they can be effective for drawing attention to OTHER more effective methods. Also, I think they should be targeting people around my age also…and they ain’t gonna do it by holding receptions. Musb< That’s why I said that the black middle class has become increasingly saddity. It used to be that being black middle class you didn’t move OUT of the neighborhood…you just had the biggest house on a crusty block. But now, the middle class has disconnected from the neighborhood, they are taking on that Republican false mantra of “poor people are poor b/c they are not working hard enough.” I’m not sure if most blacks have an opinion on whether the NAACP should exist or not b/c by and large we are not TALKING about them at all. I think that it is the organization’s responsibility to prove to people it’s relevance or else it will fail. You can’t expect people to support something just because it SHOULD exist. It needs to meet your needs FIRST. I understand what you are saying about changing the organization from the inside, but for that, the organization has to be convinced it is ineffective…and I’m not sure the NAACP feels that way.
Name: khufu
Comment: The NACP should be supporting Monique.....there it's back now LOL
Name: LAWW
Comment: >Price... I think i'm gulty of hijacking too. So.. K, you and I on another board, but I feel you. Back to Monique. Just a question, has any seen the twins, what were they?
Name: Priceless
Comment: CTFU@khufu .... but should the NAACP support the 101 uses of vaseline? *smirk*
Name: Priceless
Comment: LAWW, she had boys
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: Priceless< even the mainstream political pundits during the election season had to admit that Al Sharpton made the most sense at the debates. But ever since Tawana Brawley and a few other ill advised cases he supported, plus the fact that people tried to nail him on some financial disclosure issues, he has been tainted. Also, he doesn't have crossover charisma. We walk a fine line with whites on these issues b/c you have to address things deliciately or else white establishment shuts you down before you start. Sharpton is "unforgivably black," he's charming to us but scary to white folk. He's like a lightning rod for criticism. It's the difference between Iyanla Vanzant and Oprah. I think it's really unfortunate though b/c he is one of the few that, if listened to he speaks the language of blacks of all generations, and he also keeps up with the times.
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: oh wait...who da heyall put us back on topic?
Name: LAWW
Comment: See, I tried to get back on Monique, but I got to answer ImJust..., and then I will leave it alone. >ImJ.. Us, we, don't have a problem serfing the net, so with that i suggest that we look at www.naacp.org. Does the NAACP need to do better in the PR/Marketing area, Heeeeeellllll yeah!, and believe me, they are aware of that. We have to also be responsible for our own selves, not in a republicanish way, but you remember the days when we all took care of us, we took care of sista 'nem, brother 'nem, we disciplined our kids and everybody elses. We knew our neighbors names, ate in their houses, what happened? Church was a place where we went to receive spirituality, and then went down to the basement to listen to the elders plan stratigies that benefitted the community. What happened. But I will keep the faith, cause I know we are all that!
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Imjus...I agree BUT, it's not solely the NAACP's fault that they are not given press time. They issue "press releases" all the time. We have decided long ago that they aren't needed. Thus, the media responds accordingly. I mean if you even look at their website...ask yourself how many of those issues that they are involved in did u actually know about? I mean it's on their website. As we know websites are the source of MAD information out in cyberworld. At the same time, ask yourself how many times have u heard about Bono and his philanthropy? Or Joli and her efforts? I mean do they actually do more than what the NAACP does for people of color? No they don't...but the media/people are more interested in their efforts. Khufu..lol..u could've saved urself bout 50-11 posts if u said " WILL ALWAYS BE COMMITTED TO ANY BLACK ORGANIZATION AS LONG AS THEY AINT REPUBLICAN OR ANTI-AFRICAN 'CAUSE, LIKE YOU AND MOST OF THE POSTERS HERE, I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE" from the jump! PRICE...u know i luvz me some Al Sharpton...I mean what other black leader have u seen regularly on Bill O'Reilly... *snicker*
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: ok back to monique!!!!lol... OF course Brandon would say what he did cuz in his mind...blacks have very little credibility. He probably goes by the old slave mantra "if u black get back, if u brown stick around, and yt is right" In this case, Mo is wrong because she just is. No other facts have to be presented other than...she's wrong. What more could we expect!
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: Laww< I totally agree with you, but those days are over. And instead of reminiscing we have to catch blacks where they are NOW. It's never gonna be like it was again. And unfortunately blacks just don't feel obligated to one another anymore...so the case has to be made to them, sad but true.
Name: LAWW
Comment: Oh lawd, that last post was full of typo's... please forgive
Name: LAWW
Comment: >musb... you are so right, I get the NAACP press releases all the time, so I know they are doing things, however, it's not newsworthy, so the average person, black or white does not know what they are doing. Yet, we spend hours on the net, but very few of those hours are spent on sites that benefit us. Now, back to Monique, I don't know Brandon, and I have already been accused of assuming, so all I will say is, some of "us" will always believe that if a black person has been accused of some wrong doing, then gosh darnit, they are probably guilty.
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: Musb< I feel what you are saying...but it is a vicious cycle. I'm not checking for the NAACP b/c I feel they are not checking for me. In this day and age the NAACP is competing with other outlets of supporting blacks. My outlet of choice where I feel I can make a difference is by working on political campaigns...in the past, the NAACP may have gotten behind a candidate and encouraged blacks to support them. However today I may not agree with the candidate they choose, and, also I don't need them to tell me where to go. or, at least I don't THINK I do. It's THEIR job to convince me otherwise. They should be trying to figure out the best way to reach me, not me!
Name: katee
Comment: I am a PROUD member of the NAACP. Those of you criticizing the NAACP sound laughably stupid. Back to Mo, I am so happy she didn't silence herself about this incident.
Name: Priceless
Comment: musb, and didn't Bill O'Riley treat Al with respect? Pankie may be fearful of his truth speak, but they know this man is on point .... the like for us to have the illusion that he is seen as a clown but they had to admit he stepped up the Democratic Primary debates when he showed up cuz pankie had to bring their A game when he showed up
Name: Priceless
Comment: musb, I believe Brandon comes from the perspective of the khaki colored peeps *smirk*
Name: SweetieDarlin
Comment: Priceless, yes I do believe what I posted, essentially DAnny Glover couldn't get a cab because they did not reconize him, so his hissue was that they thought he was just a regular black man. The same with Oprah, allegedly she wasn't reconized. My point was simply MOST black celebrities are not going to have OVERT racist actions done to them, that's why IMO it may not have been a racist incident. Anyway whether they were rude or nasty because she was black or whether they were just plain rude and nasty, the incident was still something that should have never happened. We will all have opinions, but we will never know who was right because each person involved has their own spin which will put them in the best light. My thoughts are that they both acted badly, which probably escalated the situation. As I said I don't know how United people act to people black or white, I fly American Airlines cause my father liked his job and it fed out family for 35 years, I usually fly first class cause we still get passes and everyone has always been cool at American---however their ground crew-- that's another story.
Name: Priceless
Comment: Sweetie, I never heard Danny say he wasn't recognized but I hear what you saying ... on another note, can I get up in yo family to get me some first class passes? *snicker* America West treated me right in first class, United I wasn't feeling
Name: SweetieDarlin
Comment: I wish, My Stepmother has control of the passes now so I can barely get them unless I'm going to see her and my brother down in Houston. She got the hook up and flys all her Chicago friends down to see her on the regular which leaves very few passes for me my father's oldest child and with his first wife (LOL.) I would be curious to see how the Monique versus United Airlines eventually shakes out, what no witnesses?
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: PRICE U SO STUPID!..lol I agree w/u and he probably still wears pennies in his loafers *smirk*... They know they can't fk w/Al and he is BY far one of the most captivating speakers/debaters ALIVE! HANDS DOWN! Imjus what other outlet is the NAACP competing w/? Not pickin on u but what can becoming involved in political campaigns do 2 further the "cause" if we don't hold policitians accountable? We've elected a many democrat politicians but how many of them have been held accountable for their lack of support/legislation for the "cause" Yet, we still continue to vote democratic because.....? So, we stop supporting/view the NAACP as insignificant and we HOLD them accountable..but we don't democrats. Something is wrong w/that. Democrats do a lot of grandstanding MAINLY to convince u that u shouldn't vote republican. But, w/all of our continued support we are where again?
Name: LAWW
Comment: Wait a minute! Did I hear sumthin 'bout free tickets!!!???!!!
Name: Brandon
Comment: As someone who knows Mo'nique, and a person in the "business", I can assure you, she seems to get an attitude very quickly. Don't get it twisted -- that doesn't mean she is actually angry, but when Mo becomes aggravated, Mo becomes loud, and it shows. Now, while I wasn't there, I fly UA all the time because they're "hubbed" in Chicago and I have family there - the flight attendants on my flights have alwyas tried to get customers seated as quickly as possible for their "on time" departure. So while many of you all want to claim racism may have been an underlying factor, a flight attendant hurrying you along isn't necessarily because you're Black, it's because they get bonuses for leaving on time. As I stated earlier, in my opinion, Mo'nique likely became aggravated when the flight attendant told her assistant that the package (hair dryer) couldn't go in the first class compartment, because a passenger seated in coach had carried it on. Arguing with a flight attendant is considered aggressive behavior. And aggressive passengers are removed, no matter what color or nationality hey are. BTW, some of you seem to think "they" are afraid of us -- don't fool yourself, not knowing how to necessarily deal with our attitudes and moods doesn't mean they're afraid. I've seen many Black men and women who've gotten their b*tts whooped by "they", because of that way of thinking. "They" will defend themselves just like anyone else who feels threatened.
Name: LAWW
Comment: >Brandon, question, if the attendant knew that the package belonged to Monique, whethere it came from coach, or not, why was there a problem? Also, make no mistake about it, racism exists. Period. It is part of everyday life for black folks in America. From the white person that grabs their purse when a black person gets in the elevator with them,(sell dressed or not) to the flight attendant who assumes that the black celebrity wants preferential treatment, or if it was not because of their celebrity they probably could not even afford to pay for a first class seat. If you think race is not an everyday factor, think again.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Uhm..so what that u know her? So what you're in the "business" What does that have to do w/the facts as they've been presented? That only means that you apparently can have very little objectivity on that matter. Mainly because u've decided that because you "know" her then she can't be a victim of racism. What kind of crap is that? That's like sayin "oh because I know Brandon's thinking, he MUST be a card-carrying republican" Sounds stupid doesn't it? But as I said..she can't be right in ur eyes because she's black..and u know her. UA will always be right because...well they always are. Just as it's ridiculous to assume that all yt people are evil based on my interactions w/them, u shouldn't assume that Mo was the one in the wrong..because u know her. Hmmm...yeah cuz I know him and he's from the hood...he must've raped that girl. Oh ok.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: BTW...maybe u grew up in VEEERY different circumstances than most...but I've YET to see many black women/men get a beat down from some yt folk...that is unless ur talkn about police abuse...Fk outta here w/that... *smirk*
Name: LAWW
Comment: >Mus... You must carry a great big hammer! Cuz you hit that nail right on the head!!!!
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Brandon for the record (cuz i know many people who have similar leanings as u like to cry foul), I'm not attacking YOU..I'm attacking ur views based on wut u've written here in EURland
Name: 4500
Comment: how many babies being born to f.a.t. friends i seen only one if that you should be a shame of your self
Name: Priceless
Comment: Sweetie, you know if one of them panks in first class saw Mo get ghetto they would put her on blast ... I'm still leaning towards believing her based on my personal knowledge and experience of flight crews/attendents over reacting to shat ... I guess I should befriend your evil stepmother, huh? *snicker* I refuse to fly any other way if its a long flight cuz my body hurts from riding coach if it's more than 2 hrs
Name: HoneyMack
Comment: I cosign, musbdherbs <wink>
Name: Priceless
Comment: musb, I too have yet to see a pank whup a kneegrow's arse on the street unless it was a gang jump ... now maybe in professional boxing it happens sometimes *smirk*
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: Brandon, you stated "a flight attendant hurrying you along isn't necessarily because you're Black, it's because they get bonuses for leaving on time." I agree. But RCD (racial compassion disconnect) is not simple to pinpoint, and may have started soon after that. In other words, the flight attendant may have confronted Monique's assistant when she saw her place the hair dryer in the overhead bin with no RCD present. But once Monique tried to explain, RCD may have kicked in, i.e., such thoughts as "Who does this Black b*tch think she's talking to! Doesn't she know that since 9/11 I'm all-powerful!" may have been running, subconsciously, through the attendant's mind. And then there's nothing for the situation to do but escalate from there. Now on the other hand, if Monique and her assistant had been white, RCD would not have been present at all and the attendant most likely would have showed more patience, enhancing the likelihood that the situation could have been resolved with nothing more than "Oh, the hair dryer is yours? OK, it's fine to place it here in 1st class with you then."
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: Katee< now I can't wait to join NAACP. Price< I like Khaki colored better than pank. Pank always makes me think of....something I don't know. Musb< If we don't vote democratic, then what do you suggest we vote? Not at all? Like it or not those are our choices. We have for a long time and probably will always have a two party system. I'm open to any one's recommendations on how to change that but right now that is the way it is. If you are saying change the NAACP from the inside then why can't we change the Democratic party from the inside? I was a political science major and I NEVER saw any black people in my classes. I was ALWAYS the only one, although blacks on campus were VERY politically active, they were always arguing about what was wrong with the system but they were never training themselves to be a leader or run for office, or work in campaign management or anything like that. When I tell people I think I might run for office they go "good for you." I'm not saying that's everybody but that's the type of attitudes we have to combat. When I said the word outlet, I mean, blacks don't feel they need the NAACP to show support for black causes, they can do that by pursuing things by organizing by volunteering with smaller groups or groups that are majority white. For example, when I lived in Philadelphia, I was part of the needle exchange program...run by whites, benefitted blacks the most.
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: Wait, Brandon< aren't you the one that supported Star Jones's firing?
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: okay now do you see why the NAACP is not getting through to us? We can't even convince one person that there is a GREAT possibility that Mo'nique was discriminated against. If blacks don't believe they can be victims then of course they not feeling the NAACP. dayum
Name: CNickyD
Comment: I am so late on this, probably no one will even read it. But does anyone watch "Airline" on A&E, a reality show following Southwest Airlines? The gate staff, not EVEN the flight attendant, will kick you off that plane in a heartbeat if they think you'll be a source of trouble. Black, white, striped, they will pull ANYBODY from a flight. And anyone who doesn't believe Monique gave a he11 of a lot of lip about this incident is ridiculously naive. Coach passengers aren't even supposed to POOP in first-class, much less store things there. The attendants were doing their job challenging Monique & the assistant. It had nothing whatsoever to do with her color.
Name: SweetieDarlin
Comment: Well it's not that people are not acknowledging it could be racist but unfortunately the race card is played so very often some people start being suspect. I certainly hope nobody black in America would think they could NOT be victims of racism. Basically because of Monique's personality some of us are leaning towards two groups of people overreacting. I for one don't discount racism, I really am curious as to what will be the solution. PRICELESS you are right, if there were witnesses especially white folk they would be telling it all, unless of course they are waiting for money from the National Enquirer!!
Name: Priceless
Comment: Sweetie, exactly .... if their is a pank witness they are negotiating their snitch fee as we speak and they should appear on Entertainment Tonight by next Wednesday *smirk* have a good weekend y'all
Name: TJthemilitant
Comment: B, where did these beat downs occur? White b*tches are afraid! They are timid azz little cowards..The only thing that they thinks works for them is a superior attitude until somebody beats it out of them!...I myself had to punch the f*ckin' taste out of a white b*tches' mouth in a supermarket check out line, over a damn can of pringles!..She was the freakin' cashier..Just mad cause as he11 because at that moment she felt inferior to me!..Had checkbook, credit cards, more money than the heifer had ever seen!..LOL(had to throw some SugarHill in the mix)
Name: MidtownATL
Comment: dcdouglass01 - my sentiments exactly! Thats the point I was trying to make on yesterday. Racism will always exist and we will always be the subject! Not saying that some of us don't pull the race card a little too much, some of us do.
Name: LAWW
Comment: Nicky, nicky, nicky... Are you basing you beliefs on a reality show? Again, I ask the question, once Monique told the attendant that the item was her's, why was there a problem???
Name: LAWW
Comment: >TJ... SuganHill! ..Umph, umph, umph!
Name: khufu
Comment: personally I have never known a brother with the name BRANDON......
Name: khufu
Comment: NICKY youre SO DAMN LATE it's a shame...did you read the previous posts?
Name: khufu
Comment: I am stupid then..all because I dont have an NAACP card Damn I missed out on some great %*$!......like being to vote on whether or not R Kelly should IN FACT receive an NAACP IMAGE AWARD
Name: khufu
Comment: okay here is the question: how do YOU define racism? Let's see what we get...and befor you strat there is a difference between cultural bias, ethnocentricity and prejudice...
Name: SweetieDarlin
Comment: OH DANG Khufu---I know several brothers named Brandon---I don't think he's a spy, just a different persepctive each and every time. Remember we have perspectives based on our own experiences and our environment. I like to see what Brandon has to say, because it can be very different, of course white folks beating down black folks is a stretch unless they are it's a mob action (KKK, White Drunk College Frats etc.) I too have never seen or heard of that on a regular, of course beer does give them the thought that they have super human strength and can take on the world, usually that first crack in the mouth let's them know otherwise.
Name: LAWW
Comment: K... You had to start up again. For the record, the NAACP did not nominate R Kelly, his record comopany submitted his name. If the NAACP had refused to accept his nomination, that would have been tantamount to censorship, and heaven knows, that NAACP is critized enough without adding censorship to the list. JFTR
Name: khufu
Comment: Okay then Brandon can be Black....LOL...brandon, send me 36.00 dolars and I will send you a NAFAOBPWDV Card...National Association For the Advancement of Black Poeple With Different Views..what do you get in return...nothing..but you can defend us whenever someone has the gall to question our sincerity and our committment....
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW They should have refused man....they should have said, "It is against our political and moral collective conscious..." forget that censorship BS
Name: khufu
Comment: lastly...for the sistahs who are SO SURE that it wasnt racism...here is a question: How would you feel if you or your sister or daughter were raped and you told someone and they said, "Are you sure you didnt do anything to provoke it?" or.."It was your clothes"...get my point?
Name: LAWW
Comment: K... unfortunately, there are members of the NAACP that acutally like and support R Kelly, heck, I bet there are some folks right here on the board that will say... yeah, RK was wrong for what he did to that girl, but he is a musically genius. So, it would not have been against "our political and moral collective conscious"
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW they have no standards or morals or criteria Okay are you telling me that if I wanted to nominate Stanley Tookie Williams for his work they would accept that? Now I know they fought for him but have they awarded him anything.....?Or nominated him.......If so, I will acquiesce
Name: LAWW
Comment: "musical" genius (it's getting late)
Name: khufu
Comment: LAWW Hmmm I have a problem with that LAWW where are the collective parameters...? do you personally have a problem with the drug dealer who comes to church and puts a thou in the plate? There are some things that are hypocritical.......there used to be more distinct lines of demarcation in the community's mind about rights and wrongs
Name: LAWW
Comment: K, who has no standards or morals or criteria? Acquiesce you may have to, nominations are accepted in the Fall, if his name is submitted, and folks vote for him, he will win whatever catagory his name would be submitted under.
Name: khufu
Comment: the naacp should have rejected his nomination...point blank...they werent censoring his music but establishing a moral and ethical standard for the orgnization......tough possession to be in...'cause most NAACP supporters would have gone ballisitic and THAT's why it's not the kind of organization that worls for where BLACK FOLKS NEED TO BE....anyway....check this:
Name: khufu
Comment: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5 578431
Name: 2ndChance
Comment: LOL @ "NAFAOBPWDV Card...National Association For the Advancement of Black Poeple With Different Views"
Name: naahid_el
Comment: As most of us are saying we weren't there, but it is all in how you handle things. If it was only about a hair dryer then I don't see why anyone was removed. It has to be more to it than that. Plus you know if anyone comes in anyone face (regardless if you are black or white) the wrong way people will get on the defensive and start arguing back. I don't agree with anyone being mistreated, however we need to forgive those that have done wrong to us. Not for their sake, but for our piece of mind. We hang on to the anger, hurt and humiliation and it only causes us stress. We can't make anyone except anyones apologize. Just like everything else we have a choice. She chooses not to accept the apology, so that is her choice. We were not the ones wronged. I have seen Mo'Nique on some talk shows and she seems very level headed to me and she seems like the type of person that is cool to be with as long as you are cool, but you come at her the wrong way she will set you straight. I am speaking from the View episode she did.
Name: SweetieDarlin
Comment: Khufu, the rape issue is a poor analogy, although the Flight Attendant kicking Monique off and Rape are both power trips. When people are making coments about Monique I feel that they speaking in terms of the fact that sometimes your attitude can make a bad siutation worse, No noone is saying Kowtow to a Flight Attendant again given Monique's really strong, aggresive personality may have made it worse, kinda like a police stop, do you come strong or do you play it cool to get out of the situation to make the complaint later without being accidently shot? BTW back to the rape analogy, some people a-s-s-ume in some instances the woman can provoke an attack and will ask that very question to determine what really happened. Look at how in Chicago they aquitted the guys of rape who had sex with the drunk girl and spit and wrote nasty things on her body, although she was drunk as a skunk, the jury actually felt she consented to a sex train. Basically because they felt she asked for that treament. Unfair but true. One more think keep in mind Monique like Star has the misfortune of pizzing a lot of people off so there is bound to be some people who are not going to be sympathatic, even if the cause is valid.
Name: LAWW
Comment: K.. tried the site but could not get on, said the page was missing. Think about this, a few weeks back Oprah had problems with some "rappers" because she said she would not allow them on her show. Oprah could do that, because it is her show, she has control, the NAACP is a membership organization, there were folks jumping up and down on both sides about why or why not Kelly's name should/should not be removed from the ballots. Now you can imagine there would be some person out there that would say, "it's my choice to decide if I want to vote for Kelly, it's not the NAACP's or any one elses decision to make for me. The associations mission statment is clear, however, if it is to afford equality to all, it could not say that because I disagree with your music,it therefore does not deserve equal treatment.
Name: bigheadbull2
Comment: Tell you how serious they are about disorderly conduct in DC and National Airport(Reagan for all those idiots) At the end of the runway sit two scud missles because they would rather shoot 300 down than let that plane plow into a building holding 3000 people. I say Mo got off pretty easy. But don't think for a moment that racism is not alive and well and don't think that white folk are the only racists out here cause I know some black folks I would never leave alone in a room with yt LOL
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: LOL at Mo'nique. The entourage RARELY get a First Class Ticket. The entourage get a FREE ticket.
Name: essie
Comment: saw monique on the view today, and wondered, what the hell is she thinking, when she admitted that if her husband came to her and told her he'd cheated on her it wouldn't bother her, as long as he told her, because they're "best friends". what the %*$! ever. why the hell get married then? she might as well bring the%*$!(@ to the bed and let him feast while she watches. i have to admit, she was cool to me til she said that, but she held her own against barbara, elisabeth, and joy disagreeing with her. i don't like them that much, but i'm with them on this one. but, different strokes for different folks. by the way, i know this is off the subject, but did anyone else hear about KELLY ROWLAND being two months pregnant? she's refusing to say who the father is though. rumor or fact, i don't know, but that's what our d.j. said yesterday.
Name: bullcity73
Comment: I wasn't there to see what occurred with Mo'Nique, but it's possible United was wrong. Since 9/11, everybody is on edge. We live in a crazy society. If Mo'Nique was wronged, I hope she sues the wings off UNITED. As for the NAACP, I have such great disdain for them, because they have lost their focus. Does anybody knows their focus? lol NAACP supports giving amnesty and citizenship to illegal aliens, gay marriage, ect. Julian Bond is married to a white woman, and that's his choice and business. The NAACP wants to be inculsive of Salvadorans, Mexicans, and other Latino ethnic groups and gays. I have seen the racist organization, La Raza (the race) being inclusive to U.S. black citizens in their organization. Heck no, I don't support the NAACP, and if I got into a serious situation, I would have an Attorney. If I couldn't afford one, then I would get a Public Defender. NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, Julian Bond, Messy Jesse, Al Sharpton, Erik Dyson don't represent me and other blacks I know. What a bunch of losers!!!!!
Name: lyrikell2006
Comment: I agree Mo'Nique should not accept the apology someone at UAL researched who she was and the level of her popularity in the african american community therefore feeling the need to apologize.Two things I do know is that when white folks feel they are right and in this case a corporation you will not get an apologize.The other is when white folks know they are wrong again in this case a corporate when the one that is wronged is black you still won't get an apology.Another thing Mo'Nique is popular in the black community but the average white person doesn't know or care who she is so they didn't realize that they were dealing with someone who could provoke a boycott.The bottomline if they didn't think they messed with the wrong one they wouldn't be apologizing.
Name: Tadaia
Comment: NO race card... the 9/11 card was played It's interesting that so many are equating the position of the F/A with the passenger. NEWSFLASH: THE PASSENGER IS A CUSTOMER AND THE AIRLINE/FA's ARE PROVIDING A SERVICE! I've flown at least twice a week for several years now as a consultant, on several different airlines. While I wasn't there, I can almost envision Mo’Nique's experience. Nowadays, good customer service as a whole is hard to find. F/A's are no exception. Since 9/11 the situation has become even worse. I'm sure that many choose this career because they want to travel and meet people... THAT IS ALL FINE AND WELL... cool gig. However if you're not cut out to be a service provider and respect your customers, choose another profession. I mean what do these people do? Push a cart, serve coke, hand you a bag of friggin nuts and demo the use of an oxygen mask. A Waffle House waitress utilizes more skill sets. More often than not F/A's have an exaggerated sense of self-importance (poor airline policy and training), are downright arrogant and rude or at best have a lackadaisical attitude. You dare not have the temerity to ask for a pillow or blanket after you've sat down, have to tinkle while waiting on a runway 1-2 hrs for take-off or make the mistake of missing the announcement to turn off your mp3 player... else suffer the wrath of an overworked (definitely not the customer's problem) and discourteous flight attendant. As to Mo'Nique, I dont know that the incident was racially motivated but it was most certainly an unnecessary situation brought on by the woefully unacceptable response of an F/A. The bins in coach are often filled to capacity, and it did afterall belong to a first class passenger. Even if it weren't, what the hell difference does it make? I see people in coach place items in the first bin they can find (including first class) all the time. Indeed, I often see F/A's do the same in order to get everyone settled in preparation for take-off. BOTTOM LINE: The attendant should've been helping the passenger to stow the hair dryer... not bullying a United customer, while flexing the "9/11 card" to excuse her/his unprofessional behavior.
Name: bullcity73
Comment: I meant to say, I haven't seen racist Latino organizations like La Raza (the Race)be inclusive of blacks in their organization. I prefer not to fly, unless I am going out of the country, and I have no choice. Sometimes, when on reach a certain amount of fame and wealth, people regardless of wealth are just jealous. Maybe, these flight attendants were jealous of Mo'Nique, because as a plus size sister, she's very comfortable with herself, and she might be turning heads of men who are attractive to her. This was just a thought.
Back to Top
Click here to post your comments.

Back to the Article » Click Here
...
Home
Return to Top
Back to Top