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Brandon
Comment: "House Of Payne" was horrible!!! It perpetuated every negative stereotype Black people have worked to overcome (i.e., a mother on crack who steals money from her underage children; a mother & father who stick out their lips and always talk about food; and a nosey neighborhood who comes over in the middle of the night in slippers and a "head rag"). In addition to those negative images, the storyline sucked. Instead of moving forward with better roles and more fulfilling storylines, it seems Mr. Perry chose to make us look like the same fools White America portrayed 40 years ago.
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khufu
Comment: Brandon..that's why they bought it....if it were positive, refreshing, uplifting and self-empowering--it wouldnt even exist let alone be in distribution
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khufu
Comment: Now maybe he will hire real and better writers....Im hoping...
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khufu
Comment: un fooking believable is all I can say.......
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khufu
Comment: bring back FRANK'S PLACE and HAWK damn it!!
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...I haven't seen of the Madea joints..
I just cant get into a dude in a dress
I've seen re-runs of Flip Wilson..His character was funny in small doses...I couldn't watch an entire movie of that sh1t same thing with Madea...I agree with khufu, bring back Franks Place yo that was one funny azz show...It wasn't too over the top to seem coonish and the writing was excellent...Bring that sh1t back....
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prettieyez
Comment: They didn't show it in Birmingham. So, I haven't seen it yet. Khufu, I do I agree with you since is negative to the african american community they are all for that (the networks).
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: I can't comment on House of Payne 'cause I haven't watched it...I'm glad to see dude got his money...but you won't see him pull a Chappelle....That muthafuccer ain't walking away...He's gonna fill it to to rim with stereotypes if they tell him to...and Black folks gonna watch...I wonder why they can't have a Black sitcom where Black folks are just naturally funny? Why we gotta always resort to the chitling, collard greens style of comedy?...(Yeah I'm like Sgt Waters, numean?)
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Platinum
Comment: I’ve never seen H.O.P. either if it’s anything like Brandon says it is, I hope it tanks. I can’t stand seeing it in real life let alone be entertain by it.
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Apaintedpicture
Comment: I can't believe they bought this mess. I watched the first one and could not watch it to the end. I love Tyler, but that show was pathetic! The show was so bad, I didn't even laugh once. There was no reason to watch the second episode.
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bigchassie
Comment: APAINTED>yeah i heard the same thing on this show and i haven't seen it either and i don't think i want to. why do i see an image of Tyler Perry tapdancing saying "yaashuh, bossman! Ahs tap dancin fo ya suh!" but then again he can turn around and say, "NOW GIVE ME MY GOT DAYUM MONEY!!"
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Ah don't care what ya'll say...Ahm getting mine ya'll need ta stop hat-en...Miss Oprah said I was ok so the rest of ya'll can kiss my black azz...I done been on Oprah ain't none of ya'll been on Oprah...They gon give me 200 million....I'm gon shuffle, buck, shine, roll my eyes, put on this dress and go to the fuccing bank...What ya'll gon do beside post on this site without no money?...
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mamacita22
Comment: It was a hot mess. I saw it here in Houston. I watched it twice to make sure I was being fairminded. Hated it!
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khufu
Comment: TP doesnt think he is buck dancing...there are those who REALLY believe that those images he portrays are (Keepin' it) Real! TP is obviously one of them. Many do say that the images he creates speak to the "Black Experience!" again the fault is with the audience...
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YLawdY
Comment: Yall just hatin cause Ise gettin mine. LOL
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nycGYRL888
Comment: I watched the show in support of Tyler...it had a very boring, slow beginning but got better towards the end. His Madea character is not apart of the show so those comments are completely false that some are making on here. My main issue was that the show looked low budget, but then again, so did The Cosby Show when it first aired! The man is doing big things and I am happy for him. By the time it re-airs, I am sure he will have worked the "kinks" out. Stop the hatin'!!!
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Gemami
Comment: Wow, is HOP as bad as Brandon described??? Since Tyler Perry plays/movies supposively have a (spiritual/inspirational) message... is there one with HOP -- giving TP the benefit of the doubt I'm hoping he wouldn't have such outlandishness characters for no reason... but for the laugh track.
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Dovelyone
Comment: Interesting that the show was not tested in Detroit... or if it was, it was not tested on network TV. I don't have cable.
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clotel
Comment: My sentiments exactly B00TANEB00TUS in regards to Tyler dressing as a woman, it is played and stereotypical. I know many of us who have grands and great grands who take great pride in their appearance. I am NOT a Tyler fan and am always thrilled for anyone who is doing well but Tyler is now in a prime position to put out quality material instead of buffoonery. If what Brandon stated is true about HOP, then I am not looking forward to watching but then again, I might take a peak because Allen Payne is FFINNEE !!!!!
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gingerg
Comment: Did anyone watch ABC's Primetime special on AIDS in the Black community last night? If so, what did you think?
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AquaBoogie
Comment: >Branddon, nycGYRL888: Had to chime in on this. The show did suck in the beginning and came off as very coonish, but it improve with each episode. It seems like many Black shows(and musicians) purposely project a stereotypical image just to draw viewers in. Either they raise the bar or lower it. Anyway, I look forward to House of Pain coming back to TV.
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missgee
Comment: When the show airs nationwide I'll have to watch it for myself.
I'll make my own decision, just because some people think a show is coonish doesn't mean it is.
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gingerg
Comment: Has Allen Payne been in anything since New Jack City?
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DMaxx
Comment: I saw HOP, didn't care for it at all. Now that Tyler Perry is the man of the hour, maybe he will use his power and influence to create a decent black drama. I am so sick of these played out sitcoms and reality shows.
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libby
Comment: I accidentally saw HOP one day when I was looking for one of my regular shows and it had been preempted for this garbage. I didn't know what show it was or that it was TP's. It looked like it was done on my budget instead of Tyler Perry's. The writing sucked and the acting made you want to find the nearest window and jump. Thumbs down!
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khufu
Comment: LIBBY yep and Missgee LOL it's coonish and if you like it youre a coon lover
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McNasty
Comment: Okay y'all I got the opportunity to see HOP here in MD. They played all the episodes in a marathon and I don't see what you all are seeing. Gemami taken in the context meant, it's not a bad show. The girl is a recovering crackhead trying to reconnect with her two kids. Allen Payne is their father and too through with the mother because of all she put him through. The mother and father that are the jokesters. The nosey neighbor is the only one I don't understand simply because none of the Payne family has put her in her place. She's flamboyant as hell for an older woman. I think given time it will shape up to be another entertaining show on that station.
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fairydust777
Comment: I don't think anyone made comments about Madea being in House of Pain. I like Tyler Perry's inspirational messages but I'm tired of the man dressing up as a woman. I'm tired of black buffonery. I'm tired of seeing us act as if we had no sense. The male character on Girlfriends is a very funny actor who I think needs to get more work. I want to see black comedy that can stand up to the likes of The Golden Girls, Seinfeld, Frazer (excellent writing). I'm sure many of us know people who are funny without intending to be funny. I thought Roc was a good show when it was on and the lead character (ROC) was a great actor.
I'm sure Tyra Banks is happy for her man doing so well. Is it true that they're getting married?
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khufu
Comment: the quality of the writing is poor....the dialogue is TV dialogue...it's TP's version of STage dialogue......the way it is shot is as if we were watching a stage play....the acting--same thing......the set is good...except the establishing shot of the house (Exterior) was always too static.....have some cars go by and some people go by.......
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khufu
Comment: the directing was not good..the angles werent matching all the time from one cut to another..........characterizations were all so superficial....no depth......casting was bad as hell...none of them looked related to each other....
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khufu
Comment: did i mention that the set was good?
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Merd325
Comment: Gingerg> Rent out the movies Blue Hill Avenue (gansta movie), and "30 Years to Life" and also he will be in this new movie called "Crossover" that's they've been advertising.
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gingerg
Comment: Who said Tyler was Tyra Banks' man?
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gingerg
Comment: Khufu: He seemed to do ok directing Madea's Family Reunion.
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gingerg
Comment: Merd: Are these mainstream movies?
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gingerg
Comment: I like to watch America's Next Top Model when they get down to the last three or four. I can't help but howl when I see Ms. J's hairdos. He can kill me switching, too.
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FineBrown
Comment: I knew that was a good show and its funny how they "program" and test shows--it was a show that I had to digest..when I did, its good!
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Name:
STELLABABY
Comment: does anyone remember when they had the
short lived show on cbs called under one roof.starring james earl jones,joe
morton and vanessa bell calloway.and let me not forget the late merlin santana fm.the steve harvey show.now
under one roof was a great,great drama
and the story lines were fantastic.a lot of folks still talk about that show
and gabriels fire, which was another show that james earl jones starred in.
let's not forget city of angels that
starred blair underwood and viveca fox.
all of the wonderful dramas that reped
us in a positive way are now all gone.
even those shows that had diversity like courthouse starring jenifer lewis.
100 centre st.starring latanya richardson.laughter is wonderful to have.but it would be nice to show the
dramatic side of our people.peace and
blessings
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Marlin
Comment: i did not actually watch the show, but allen payne is so sexy, it does not matter how the show is.....
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Brandon
Comment: I have a problem with us (Black folks) being accepting of the buffoon roles. Our White counterparts have a balance - they have stupid folks on sitcoms, but they also have not so stupid sitcoms, so there's a balance. We seem to lack that same balance. I'm happy for Tyler Perry. He's the first Black person to ever have such a great deal. But, it's insulting that he has chosen to use his new found power to berate us (as a people). Sitcoms are meant to be funny - and we all enjoy a good laugh every now & again, but sometimes taking a stand is better than allowing yourself to be the village idiot. Someone needs to send him an exclusive copy of Spike Lee's film "Bamboozled", perhaps he'll learn a thing or two.
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fairydust777
Comment: gingerg: I've read (not sure how true all of them are) a number of stories that they are more than friends. I read one article where one of Tyra's friend said if they have a baby they'll have to call it "Ty Ty". I was a bit surprised because I thought she was engaged to that Italian basketball player. When Tyra had Tyler on her show she kept making references to how much time they spent together, that he met her mom, she met his family and I hear that when he has plays when she can she goes to see him.
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Merd325
Comment: Gingerg> They are both urban and went straight to DVD and not on big screen. I did enjoy Blue Hill Avenue.
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gingerg
Comment: Grey's Anatomy is the best show on primetime television and it will win the emmy on Sunday. The cast is diverse and talented and the dialogue is interesting.
It also has the mesmerizing Isaiah Washington. I've always liked his work and style.
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McNasty
Comment: StellaBaby yes I do - remember Gabriel's Fire - we didn't watch that one either so they took it off. I watched faithfully but one viewer isn't enough to keep a show on tv.
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McNasty
Comment: MERD325 30 years to Life surprisingly enough came on Lifetime last weekend. I watched it again. Good movie!
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McNasty
Comment: Khufu so when should we expect to see your pilot tested on tv? You can't criticize every single program with the details you did and not be developing a project for tv yourself.
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Merd325
Comment: Mcnasty> I liked 30 years to life also.
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bigheadbull2
Comment: Anyone remember the show starring debbie allen and john witherspoon as her crazy brother call paris texas it only stayed on for two shows it was funny
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gingerg
Comment: They should have kept Soul Food on Showtime. I could have watched that forever.
By the way, Nicole Ari Parker is a talented dramatic actress. I would like to see her in a prime role on
regular television. She also has a
gorgeous husband - that Boris.
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khufu
Comment: MCNASTY actually I, like a lot of other brothers and sistas, DO HAVE concepts, screenplays and tele-scripts....as I mentioned earlier, maybe TP will open some doors for some excellent writers.......
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McNasty
Comment: Khufu - I'll call him for you.lol
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Name:
McNasty
Comment: . . . but in the meantime could you quit being so critical of all TPs projects?!
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khufu
Comment: McNAsty no.....for one, as a Black person, I exercise my right to critically analyze images, messages, rtc that depict, portray, etc Black folks.......especially those that are derogatory, non-progressive, lacking, etc
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khufu
Comment: McNasty NO also becuase as an experienced and trained media maker, I have published about and taught about film and media criticism....as well as communication(s) theory...so my comments about TP stuff and Bernie Mac's, etc, etc are in line.......
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khufu
Comment: McNasty also as a culturally and politicaly conscious person, I express my thoughts about TP's stuff within a historical, cultiral, social and political context.......
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Name:
khufu
Comment: McNasty..are you a censor, now? Or are you suggesting that we should all juz besa glad cuz a Blak man is a makin' somesa money...so we should not have anything critical to say?
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khufu
Comment: McNasty..House of Pain was painful.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: McNasty do you suggest that we all be air-headed and superficial like MARLIN?
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Tiedie
Comment: I've never even heard of House of Payne but from the posts I've read, that might not be such a bad thing. While I applaud and support TP, his material is not original. The "Madea" movies are just a conglomeration of ideas and dialogue from the plays.
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2ndChance
Comment: I watched all the episodes aired. It most certainly got better in the end. I think the drug abuse story line was handled well enough. She wasn't like Smokey from Friday. She was a mother struggling with substance abuse. Believe it or not it is more common than we would like to believe. I think Tyler did most of the work himself. Now that he has a network backing him I assume the quality of the show will improve greatly. He's made millions of dollars because of his dedicated fans. If you aren't one of them I'm sure he isn't losing any sleep over it.
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kady
Comment: I watched all of the episodes and I struggled through each one. I thought it was awful. If they don't make some changes, it's not gonna last.
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missgee
Comment: khufu,
your acting like an ignorant coon,
Since you don't know me, keep your opinions to yourself.
LIKE I SAID I'LL WILL JUDGE FOR MYSELF, as to whether I like it or not.
your opinion doesn't matter to me.
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Cappaucino
Comment: All i can say is imagine Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Mrs. Coretta Scott King, Rosa Parks and Harriet Tubman watching this with us... What would there reaction be? On some real I think we are getting real stupid!
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sultry
Comment: You tell it Second Chance- tyler is laughing all the way to the bank. You guys things like that is very very real. Open up your minds. I do think that he is coming from a very true place in his heart with this program. Please give the man a chance and grow with him.
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Name:
MrsPhoenix
Comment: High five sultry; where you been girl?
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