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Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Why ya gotta say he got on his pre-paid phone?...Izzit that bad for B?...Dude can't afford a cell phone...If Whit's comeback is successful Bobby's gonna be like dayum, how could I fucc that up?...Personally, I think her comeback is gonna be a huge success...She's got too many bigs working with her...Plus everybody blames Bobby for her destruction...I question Courtney Love as an advisor... Where's her girl Robin?...Imma have to agree with Clive. Whitney's voice was truly special...She could take any song and blow it up...As for Bobby, maybe Ronnie,Johnny, Ricky and Mike will take him back 'cause he needs to cool it now, he needs to slow it down...
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: Bobby, now you KNOW I'm a fan, but you played yourself like an ole fiddle at a hoedown! Cry me a River, but just not in my living room! I hope Whitney can break free and move on. We all know how hard it is to get over someone who has been a part of your life for so long. The key will be her support system for sure. And Bobby's maturity and responsiblity for his issues.
Name: DoctorSmooth
Comment: What?? The "King of R&B" using a prepaid phone? Dang. That %*$!( aint got no credit? Thassa crying shame. And lets keep it real...Bobby ain't "saddened" by the divorce. Please. He's saddened cuz his money's about to get cut off !! How many records has he sold lately? She's supported him for the past 14 years and now he's about to take a big step down financially. Good for him... and good for Whitney. I'm sure her album next year will be tight. All the best to her.
Name: nycGYRL888
Comment: Courtney Love??? WTF!!! Come on Clive you could have done better than that. Where's Lionel Ritchies counselor...geesh! And for the record...who cares if Bobby is saddened...he should have thought about that before he decided to act like an azz. Whitney has put up with way too much from this man and complete sobriety has final knocked some sense into her...that and possibly the fact that she is running out of money!!
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: Was he as sad as when he and his sister decided to put Whitney's sh** out there? No one is gonna love him like Whitney. Few of us have the kind of love that Whitney had for Bobby. That unconditional-I-don't-give a flying rat's a.s.s.-I'm-gonna-stand-by-man-and-I-don't-give-a-f.u.c .k.-how-it-looks-and-who-don't-like-it-love. And he blew it. But then again, I'm sure his Baby Mommas were waiting for this to happen. I must say that I was rooting for them. I really Whitney is loyal, albeit to a fault. I'm hoping she can find someone who can return her love and loyalty. But she should start with her daughter. Love for your children -- that's some real love right there. This is an example of what happens when you abuse the love you have. Not all of us have been loved the way Bobby has been loved. Suck it up Bobby. Move on. Because of their daughter, he will always be a part of her life. It's not the end, but a new beginning for everyone. As Lauryn Hill says, every day is another chance to get it right this time! I wish them well, especially if we can be blessed with the sound of Whitney's voice again.
Name: McNasty
Comment: It was an enabling love and that's not good for anybody.
Name: ss69054
Comment: Bobby is saddened that he is losing that meal ticket. He needs to get it together too. As for Courtney Love, I don't think she was the best person to consult with Whitney. She is still going through problems. She needs to talk with Aretha and Chaka Kahn and better yet Mary J Blige. Those sistas have overcame drug addictions and so forth.
Name: CJazz
Comment: I AGREE 100% with everybody on this board.........everybody is right on point!! Have a good day every one.......got a staff meeting in a few. I'll be back later!
Name: alexander1906
Comment: Two Words: "Negro Please"
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Won't Whitney have to pay Bobby alimony?..
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Could it be that Whit was the cause of her demise?...Could it be that Bobby was the rock of the marriage and Whit smoked the rock?...Could Bobby be the scapecoat in alla this?...There has to be 10 reasons why you can't blame Bobby Brown for Whitney's demise...Can anybody name 6?...How'bout 3?....Ok gimme 1...
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: ==>ss69054 . . . don't forget Natalie Cole!! Remember when her mother had to be called in to handler her affairs she was so far gone. I heard her say that the first time she heard her song THIS WILL BE on the radio, she was on her way to the spot to buy drugs. And musbdherbs, I'm sure Whitney had a prenup, but if may have expired because they generally only last 10 years. But if he were a real man, he'd make his own way, having lived off his wife for the last 14 years. Hopefully, Whitney's lawyer will protect what's left of her fortune and if Bobby gets anything, it will be minimal. If she does have to pay alimony, that may be the price she has to pay for not making better choices. Freedom ain't never been free anyway.
Name: yunvme
Comment: The plus side to this whole houston/brown divorce is that he will finally be free from her. She is bad news. Food for thought. He aint losing no meal ticket. He will get PAID. Now he can spend her money and not have to deal with her. Every mans dream. Naw....I'm just playin'.
Name: Renetta
Comment: She can do it. She's stubborn, got spunk and anyone who can put up with Bobby Brown for all those years can do ANYTHING. We're all prayin for her and I KNOW PRAY WORKS. So it's only a matter of time. If she was going to fizzle out and die from drugs she'd have been dead by now. The fact that she's still here kickin it - lets me know that womans got a lot of strength. When she is clean - she'll be an example of hope to all addicts. Go ahead on Whitney. Old school do it girl!!!
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: BOOT, it was truly a joint effort. Because while it was going on it was all good. A textbook case of co-dependency and dysfunctional love -- it's cause and effect.
Name: missgee
Comment: Mushbdherbs, it all depends on what the prenup has in it. I alway's believed bobby married her for her money, why she married him when she had much better choices I could never figure that one out. A friend of mine who lived in Atlanta said he once seen Bobby at a club and he was giving the dancers money saying here take Whitney's money and knowing this person I don't think he was lying.
Name: yardi76
Comment: You know this is not the first time I have seen an article on here that takes an unfair swipe at someone, they did it to Jay-Z the other day. It does not matter if his cell phone is pre-paid or not and how do you all know it is pre-paid anyway? There is no reason for anyone to have to slide that in the backdoor so that he can look bad. Look, Whitney was no saint way before Bobby was in the picture and he was no choir boy. Things did not work out for them in the end (or at least it seems)so wish them the best and keep it moving. Did anyone report on how bad Whitney's wig looked when she was with Clive Davis....NO, so leave Bobby alone.
Name: QueenCityBee
Comment: I guess he is saddened..his money train has left the station.
Name: kady
Comment: yardi76> I was thinking the same thing. How do they know that he was using a prepaid phone, did Bobby mention it during their conversation?? probably not.....And as long as Clive Davis has been in this business, the best person he can think of to help Whitney with her sobriety is Courtney Love??
Name: ss69054
Comment: Whitney and Bobby had a pre-nup signed so he gets nothing. The buck stops here for the King of R&B. Yes, I forgot about Natalie Cole.
Name: Merd325
Comment: Now, does he get paid for that PEOPLE interview?
Name: ss69054
Comment: Merd325> He probably gets a little pocket change. He gives the media what he wants to keep something in his pocket.
Name: recognizelife
Comment: u know what? none of us have a right to judge! It's never all one person's fault. I am happy for Whitney because she has a talent that the world deserves to hear. Sometimes the need of the few out way those of the many. in this case the few was Bobby and Whitney because it appears they had primal/animalistic attraction to one another..... However, cream always rises to the top! For years before Whitney was the inspiration for millions of women and even some men, so it is only right that she become selfless again and tend to her fans and family, the ones that have held her in such high esteem for so long. Sure she owes happiness to herself, but she owes more to the gift God has blessed her with. She can praise God with that gift. She can uplift others. Michael Jackson proved when he was at his best that it can uplift the world. Finding a balance is hard though. Its very hard.. I hope my friend Sean Garrett, Mike City, Donnell Jones or Jon B gets to write for her, new cd. These kats know how to tell a story without selling out a person soul while at the same time making giving u the innervision of a person's life. Whitney, u my girl. Bobby u can change ur life as well. Sometimes u just can't do these things together All the best to the both of u!!!!!!!!
Name: MrUnapologetic37
Comment: For the first time I am in aggreement with "almost" every post on this board. I, too, am extremely happy for Whitney as she pursue sobriety. As for Bobby, there was something very unsincere about his "I'm sadden" remark. That's my opinion, of course. Unlike most, I was never one of the folks who blamed him for her drug addictions. Whitney's battles with drugs date back to when she dated Micheal Jordan (before Juanita) and Eddie Murphy whom both on totally separate occasions talked about "her nasty little habit." Nonetheless, it's all good at the end of the day. She's on her way back and I am happy about it!
Name: 4mybabygirl
Comment: I think Courtney Love would be a great advisor for whitney. That girl use to be jacked up and use to not care who saw her that way. But, she is sober now and she is looking great. Even is she still have some problems, maybe her and Whitney can help each other. I don't know anyone that was gone off drugs like Courtney, so if she can do it, I know Whitney can. Beside that it is apparent that Clive got Whitney's back and I don't think he would hook her up with Courtney, if he didn't know Courtney was clean and sober for awhile. As for Bobby, you got to love the guy. I'm not going to blame him for Whitney's problems, she is an adult! Of course he is a free loader, but she put herself in that situation. I'm sure he did not tie her down and force crack down her throat. I wish both of them well as they go their separate ways.
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Quite frankly, I believe Whitney was the bytch in this whole relationship. I couldn't cared if she came back or not becasue one, she did it to herself, two, the nssty way she treated her fans on "Being Bobby Brown," I wouldn't by ice water from her azz on a 1000 degree day. B. Brown, get your career together and do you.
Name: 4mybabygirl
Comment: recognizelife-Your comment was great! I agree with you 100%, you were right on target.
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: 14 years is a good while to be married and it's going to be a big adjustment for them both to be out of each other's lives that way. I hope they both are able to move on. I don't think I'd want Courtney Love's advice though.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Ok, Imma give ya'll 10 reasons why ya can't blame Bobby Brown: 1. Whit had more money and could get a better grade of rock. 2. Whit knew more wealthy White folks who could get her better rock. 3. Whit exposed Bobby to rock, Bobby was still drinking 40's and smoking blunts when he met Whit. 4. Whit isolated Bobby from Ronnie, Ricky and Mike and made him dependant on her. 5.Whit and Robin used to beat-up on poor Bobby whenever he voiced his concern about Whit's drug use. 6. Bobby didn't know how bad Whits drug use was. She was always sending him out to run errands and while he was out she'd do her thing. 7....Whit told Bobby that those lil white rocks were "Special candies" made especially for her. 8. Whit told Bobby she'd get him into movies if he kept his dayum mouth shut about her drug use. 9. Bobby ain't too bright and believed everthing Whit told him....10. Whit just wanted to git high...
Name: Pamalicious
Comment: Allow me to be the devils advocate here. Now I've seen the television interviews, the baptisms, and the snippets of 'Being Brown' on the net and not for nothing but Ms Houston was a willing participate in this. I've said it once and I'll say it again, she was already on the path of self-destruction before Mr Bobby Brown. The media and others would love to blame Ms Houston's downfall on Bobby, but come on!!!!!!! She was instrumental in her own downfall, this problem of Whitney's is BIGGER than Bobby. Believe me, the type of love that Whitney has for him will not just melt away......she may be back in the saddle again....only time will tell. I'm just sick of the 'poor Whitney fell because of Bobby' song......Whitney is responsible for Whitney....remember Adam and Eve in the book of Genesis, Adam said to God, "The woman whom thou gavest [to be] with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat." And Eve blamed the serpent....but at the end of the day....ITS ABOUT PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY....no one makes you do ANYTHING
Name: MsBenny
Comment: What about Ralph? The first person who posted a note did not mention Ralph. As for the Bobby Brown. I don't think its just him. It takes two people to ruin a relationship. He did not single handidly do it on his own. That being Bobby Brown show showed me another side to Whitney that I did not exist. I used to always think it was Bobby until I saw that show. Its basically both of them but from what I saw it was more her.
Name: Pamalicious
Comment: LOL@BOOT>>you forgot to mention Ralph
Name: MrUnapologetic37
Comment: Mothership, let's not forget during the moments of poor choices, bad display of character, emotional lows, that Whitney was severely impaired by drugs. I don't know if you've ever had front row seats in the life of someone who is drug addicted, because it's clear once you have that experience the person in question is NOT in their right mind. It's demonic. And please know that I am not making excuses for her because I believe Whitney is the one to blame, but at this stage of the game BLAME and BAD-MOUTHING won't help her or anyone in her state. We as a race of people need to be merciful, forgiving and encouraging when one falls.
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: reluvbaby< we all speculate about celebrity relationships, but you speak with such authority on Bobby and Whitney. How have you gained such a scary amount of insight into their relationship?
Name: gingerg
Comment: This is totally off the topic, but I want to share it. Melody McCloud has written an excellent article entitled "Black Women Demand Respect." It appeared in the September 12, 2006 edition of the Atlanta Journal Constitution.
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: MrUnapologetic, I have had a front row seat, my brother, who has been twenty years clean now, ain't nobody put a gun to his head and ain't nobody put a gun to hers either. Folk raggin' Bobby like he made her do things. And her nastiness toward folk who are buying her records was ridiculous. She should have stayed out of the game if she felt like that.
Name: Dean32
Comment: I'M SADDENED BY THE POOR ARTICLES THIS WEBSITE DIG"S UP EACH DAY AND CALLS IT A STORY OR MAYBE NEWS.....
Name: gingerg
Comment: Some of you on here chide Whitney for staying with Bobby for so long. Would you feel the same if he looked like Boris Kodjoe (who is expecting his second child with lovely wife Nicole Ari Parker)?
Name: recognizelife
Comment: Ok, i wasn't gonna go there, but yall done made me! Yeah Whitney is a %*$!(! it's has always been her way or no way! She grew up priviliged and coupled with her addictive personality, her control issues and the fact that u can get a way with murder with a sellout smile and big voice, she has been on path of self destruction longer than many of us know, but like i said, U know what? We still don't know the whole story. We don't know who introduced who to drugs. Bobby grew up on the streets of Boston, if u think he had never been introduced to crack before Whitney I got some lake front property i want to sell u in Brooklyn, right of Puslaski and Dekalb avenue. What we saw from Whitney and Bobby was them under the influence of drugs. After growing up in the inner city, have never met a nice person strung out on Crack that doesn't think he can rule the world...It appears that Whitney that Whitney is the dominant person in that relationship, but we don't know what went on behind closed doors. They both knew they were in smilin for the camera. Maybe Bobby is a better actor, maybe Whitney is better enabler....Addiction is nothing that we can counsel from the outside. There's an old saying that "birds of a feather stick together", I know Angie Stone, she's my home girl and she's a %*$!( just like Whitney....they are tight, demanding and controlling, nobody blames Dangelo for their break up, but they blame Bobby...why because we don't know the facts...it's all speculation and while its fun to speculate, please be clear that the problems that they are dealing with are a lot larger than they are given their celebrity. Of course that is not a license to be a bad role model, but is an added pressure that we dont' have to deal with, a temendous one. As far as Bobby goes, i am calling him to task because either he is a man or he isn't. He has to be accountable and set and example for his wife. If you let your wife abuse u in many cases she will. Don't give me this poor lil Bobby crap! Shake it off! U claim u are a pimp then how u gone let ur woman control u? Men are supposed to be leaders...whether he is in love or not....We have to find the strength to fight off addiction and any thing else that can bring us down. "The only way to avoid a trap is to know of it's existence"...Bobby knew! Dont' get it twisted! Whitney Knew don't let her punk yall! Now the world knows and maybe, just maybe we can get back the founder of one of the legendary R&B groups and the True Diva and first lady of R&B since Aretha started exposing her breasts!
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Recognizelife, don't go there about Aretha's breasteses! I have a photo of them udders that'll slap ya face off when you open it!!!
Name: recognizelife
Comment: can a brutha get a copy!!!!!! lol (just jokin)lol
Name: ss69054
Comment: Whether who introduce drugs to whom or who's the blame, both of them need to get it together. Some of you act like you know them personally like you kicked it with them. Neither one is a saint. I am just glad for Whitney b/c she has an incredible God-gifted talent and she is blowing it away on those drugs. Bobby is not as talented but can be useful for something. But the problem is he isn't ready to really be help. So hopefully the brotha will one day come to his senses. I just hope both of them get it together for the sake of their kid(s)!! The people I most feel for are the children who are involved.
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Recognize, give me your e-mail addy! I guarantee you, it's a mess!
Name: recognizelife
Comment: lifeis@sc.rr.com
Name: Priceless
Comment: Courtney need to get off drugs before she counsel anyone *smirk*
Name: Priceless
Comment: okay reading is fundamental *snicker* Courtney need to actually use the drug counselor herself
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: STOP IT! I can't even believe we're debating "who got who stuck" Does it even matter? Do we have these same debates when we talk about crackhead parents who don't take care of their kids? NO! We can them everything from ghetto to triflin. So, the same should be said to Whitney. As much as I'm a fan of Be (although I'm sure ya'll didn't know)...I wouldn't be holding prayer vigils and psychoanalyzing how she ended up on drugs...nemore than I would if it were some other drug user. Whitney had all the money and resources available to her..she chose drugs. Sorry but it happens everyday and we are less concerned. Hopefully she'll get herself together and make some good music...just don't expect nething from the Bodyguard....
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: IJA? What's so scary about it? The truth of the matter is I'm a fan of Whitney and Bobby so if I'm going to believe in something or someone, I want to know the truth so I sought it out. I know that before they fell, the gave the world something. I know that from stories of the Bible, that God used ex cons, prostitutes, adulterers to do his will and to fulfill prophecy. So I never gave up on Whitney or Bobby and I won't give up on them now. I wish them both well, but I'm talking more about Bobby now because it's said that he was saddened. I was just responding, as a fan, to what should he be sad about? It was his family that brought put her sh** out there and as I said before on these posts: Judas had to sell out the son of God in order to fulfill prophecy, so that the "outing" mahy be a blessing in disguise. Bobby knows what he got to do as do we all. Whitney knows too. Whitney and Bobby both were gifted BEFORE they met each other and trust me, no matter who did what to whom, if they believe in themselves and the gifts that God gave them, they will BOTH do fine. Remember life is a journey, not a destination. And it may be the end of their journey together. More importantly, I'm a woman who's had her share of love and loss. And Bobby do know he played himself when he said he was "saddened." What else could he feel after all this. It was an enabling, co-dependent, dysfunctional relationship, right. But the important thing now is not where they were, it's where they're going. And my insight? God gave Whitney and Bobby the gift of a voice, song and dance. He gave me insight. My friends know and love me for my insight. I don't always get it right, but as a human being, woman, child, daughter, lover, sister, friend, I understand.
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Recognize, you have mail! CTFU!
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Thank you, Mus!
Name: libby
Comment: yardi76...What did they say about Jay-Z that compares to the pre-paid cell phone remark?
Name: recognizelife
Comment: Libby, artist using prepaid phones is nothing new...instead of changing their cell phone #s 3 or 4 times a year, it's common knowledge that many artist buy disposable phones so as not to be bugged or traced....whoever wrote that artile played us...it's not dat serious....
Name: recognizelife
Comment: Mothership, u so crazy! i ain't seen nothin like it...u need a crane to lift those bad bois...how can u look in the mirror each day and think that is sexy...see how far from reality these entertainers are...this was the daughter of a Reverend. Do u think she went to her daddy's church like dat...if she did, they all goin to hell...lmao
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Recognize, this was at a public event no less! She may as well have cut the goddamned top off da dress and call it a day!!!
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: reluvbaby< Reading you posts, you would think you knew these people personally...and even if you did you would still be overreaching. Whitney is loyal to a fault? Nobody will ever love Bobby the way Whitney does? Few of us have the love Whitney has for Bobby... I mean between you and recognizelife, I'm tryin to figure out which one of y'all hangs out with the Houston-Browns more often. I hate to see how far y'all get into your family members business. Everybody is on here speculating but dang y'all are speaking with AUTHORITY on this subject. You're free to say what you want but it really does sound strange.
Name: MrUnapologetic37
Comment: Mothership, I really believe are saying the same thing, but it's just the choice of words that makes it seems different. At the end of the day Whitney was the one to blame - no Bobby. Bobby is a mess all by himself and that's
Name: recognizelife
Comment: ImJustAsking, i only speak about what i know about...there is nothing i said in my comments that infer that i know Whitney anymore than anyone of u. I have met her before, Angie lives down the street from me, i've known her for 15 years... other than that i only know Whitney through her...so "i think you do protest too much"...these r people just like u and i are...their business gets in da neighborhood just evryone else's. There are quite a few famous kats that come from where i live Sean Garrett among others. yes, i used to hang out with him all the time..so don't think it so impossible for ordinary people that are not reporters or tv personalities to know these people. When Angie comes home she goes to Walmart just like u do...they are just people with baggage that everyone gets to see because they are famous...What i say is not strange, its the truth as far a i know and have experienced it. i don't talk about that which i have not. My comments say on the other hand not to judege either of them because we don't knw all the facts...i think u are reading more into it than u should
Name: Victornator
Comment: Both Whitney and Bobby propably have pre-nups. Remember, Bobby had just raked in 30-40 million when he and Whitney hooked up.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Gingerg - Boris is beautiful and seems to be a sweetie pie but if he was getting Nicole into rock and slapping her around and getting put in jail and not paying for 3 children he already has, I still don't think he would get a pass from black folk for doing all of that. Rick Fox is, well, a fox, and I think he's a dog for messing things up with Vanessa so looks don't give you a pass...IMHO
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Victornator - you have got to be kidding? That monkey couldn't even pay $65,000 in BACK "chissup" and you think he has $30-40 mil sitting somewhere? Did you light up this morning WITH Bobby?...
Name: recognizelife
Comment: oh how soon we foget....wasn't Vanessa the one that one Ms America and had all that scandal...who married a kool brutha that loved her, was faithful gave her several kids? Wasn't he the one she divorced to marry Rick Fox...i'm just saying..."U get what u get" life is a circle baby, even for the pretty ones...Vanessa, Whitney, and anybody else....
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Recognize, he also gave her herpes!
Name: recognizelife
Comment: "for better or worse".... i think that's what the reverend said..."what don't kill u, only makes u stronger"...lol
Name: MrUnapologetic37
Comment: yeah.... Rick Fox did infect her with herpes. In my mind, that's enough to sentenced to death!
Name: MrUnapologetic37
Comment: I agree, Recognize, up to the point where you are infecting me with diseases (deadly or not). Thereafter, all bets are off! If a woman that is suppose to be my WIFE gave me a veneral disease she BETTER leave town! That's my stuff though.
Name: justafu
Comment: They tried and hung in there for a while but it didn't work out so it's time to go. Thank goodness human beings don't get to write the last chapter on anything because we'd probably have Whitney winning the NOBEL PRIZE for Comeback and Bro Bobby would be shot to death on a dead end street! Peace.
Name: recognizelife
Comment: oh it was Rick dat got her! then it goes back to what i said, "u get what u get"...she had a good man...one that stood by her and she divorced him for Rick....so i dont feel sorry for her. Why is it these sistas always claim the want a good man then whenthey get one, "he's too nice" and u need a "thug in ur life" back &forth can't keep my sistas happy! lol
Name: MrUnapologetic37
Comment: oh that was funny, Justafu
Name: gingerg
Comment: Recognizelife; That's not how it went. Her former husband, Ramone Hervey, was cheating like a scoundrel. If she has herpes, he's probably the one who gave it to her. I remember reading an article in which she spoke about what he was doing affecting her health.
Name: recognizelife
Comment: okay, that is y i asked the question, "wasn't she Ms America, that had a good man?" so if she didn't than u r right, any chick dat gave me the bug gets da boot...which story is it, did her ex or rick spackle her up? Sounds like anotha bobby and whitney to me...who done what? lol
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: It wasn't Rick who gave her Herpes it was Harve!
Name: timmdogg
Comment: I am not saddened that these two are calling it quits, however there is a little girl involved and I would hope Bobby would not start fling dirt during their tentative divorce proceedings? I am not sexist here, but I do believe Bobby is going to prosper from the divorce due to certain actions being discussed via the public: * She went on Diane Sawyer and confessed to drug abuse * Her erratic behavior on the Bravo show: 'Being Bobby Brown Bobby is going to use this to say she is an "unfit" mother and might even hint she's a lesbo? I can truly see massive journalist hinting on this and other part is he will gain monetary value for being a jerk to former wife. Whitney, I hope you got some deep pockets because the "king of new jack swing" is about to get PAID at your expense.....Tender roni my %*$!
Name: Victornator
Comment: queeniebunz, you missed the point. Yes he is broke as a joke NOW, but they both had a lot of money when they first hooked up so a pre-nup would have protected them both. It is only when the wealth is one-sided that the person without they money is reticent about signing a pre-nup.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: The impression I got about Vanessa and her first husband was that he was very controlling which can be abusive. The cheating doesn't surprise me, though. Controlling men are insecure. And, being married to a beautiful woman would make him feel even more insecure so cheating would give him a sense of power. I can see that. I feel bad for her. I think Vanessa is a wonderful performer - singer/actress/dancer. She is fabulous.
Name: MsBenny
Comment: Speaking of Angie Stone. Is Angie Stone same Angie from MC HAMMER days the one that sang the song MEN GET LONELY... I always wanted to know.. Someone please respond. I also agree with what everyone is saying on this site..
Name: recognizelife
Comment: Victornator u r correct...Bobby still has the potential to make money, he's not destitute and as long as they were not married in a state that lists all %*$ests as community property, then the pre nup will stand...of course the judge can deviate if he wants because of any mitigating circumstances, for example, if either can prove the other to be unfit or a "HO"!, then its up to his discretion...
Name: recognizelife
Comment: No Boo, that is not the same person. Angie Stone is Angie B from the original first female rap group called Sequence..all of the members are from SC...they r my neighbors
Name: Bringthanoize
Comment: Everyone knows Bobby was messing with bud & alcohol. Whitney got turned out on coke by her brother at an early age. Both are from the hood. I beleive Whitney introduced Bobby to the coke lifestyle not that it hadn't been around him b4. Being apart from his NE brother's who all are str8 up not coke heads played a part. Bobby is a very insecure individual no matter his personal stage bravado. In interviews when the talk turned to Whitney's ex's ie Eddie Murphy, Arsenio, Ralph T, etc and he doesn't want to hear it. Clive Davis is no good as he turned a blind eye and let Whitney get high early in her career while he got madd rich off of her. Whitney will file for divorce in California. All the best for Bobby & Whitney "cocaine/crack is a hell of a drug". Peace
Name: recognizelife
Comment: Recognize "Bringthanoise" Recognize!!!
Name: Victornator
Comment: MOTHERSHIP, I have that pic of Aretha and I want to beleive that someone used PhotoShop and pasted her head on someone else's body. Does anyone know where there is a link to Whitney singing at the Winter Olympics.
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Vic, naw, bruh, them there is Aretha. She was never know for taste when it comes to dressing. It's all in her mouth.
Name: MsBenny
Comment: Oh my. From Bobby/Whitney to Vanessa/Rick Fox!! He really did give her herpes???? I read in the Parade magazine that she divorced both husbands because they both cheated on her. The article did not mention HERPES. Oh My. I learn so much on the board....
Name: libby
Comment: Ms. Benny...Are you talking about B. Angie B. The girl from 357? Or another Angie? B. Angie B. is not the Angie Stone.
Name: recognizelife
Comment: Mothership...u got dat right potna
Name: recognizelife
Comment: B Angie B is the girl from Hammer's crew. The fist and real Angie B is Angie Stone of the original group Sequence who later became the lead singer for Vertical Hold, who dated D'angelo and they have a son together who lives SC...she also has a daughter who is a student @SC State Univ.
Name: MsBenny
Comment: Thank you recognizelife . I've called radio stations to answer that question and no one has ever answered. I have been asking that for about 2 years now. Thanks...
Name: Priceless
Comment: dayum Mother and recognize jacked this post with Ree Ree's tiddies *snicker*
Name: ss69054
Comment: It was Vanessa's first husband who gave her herpes I believe but he and Fox both cheated on her. Fox is a FOX and I knew that wouldn't last.
Name: MsBenny
Comment: Yes libby thats who I was asking about BANGIEB from 3 5 7 and who sung the song So much love here. I heard long time ago that she and Angie Stone were the same person.
Name: beboyz
Comment: Oh No!!! Courtney Love will probably share a rock wit Nippy instead of counseling her LOL
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Victornator - YOU missed my point. If he had $30-40 MILLION laying around, then WHY did Whitney have to pay the $65,000 in back child support he owed his baby-mamas a few years ago? Answer that...
Name: yunvme
Comment: for the same tired azz reason that so many of my brothers dont pay. They dont want to. Its not that they dont have money.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: IJA, I'll address one of the things I said: Whenever Whitney made proclamations about her husband, many people believing Bobby was unworthy of her, many people thought she was wrong for that! She hung on there with her husband, staying loyal to HIM despite what others were saying about him. When she showed up with Bobby at his many court appearances, many people thought she should not have been there. So, she was wrong for that, too. That's why I concluded that she was loyal to her husband to a fault. I, like everyone else here, am just on these boards expressing my OPINIONS based on what is reported. Ever since I was a child, I've been called "old lady" by the elders of my family because I have the capability to understand things far beyond my years. My family and friends love me because when I do speak the truth, it's spoken in love and not bitterness or hate. They listen to what I have to say and make use their free will to do what they want. I don't push my opinions on anyone, but if I have a forum to express it, then I do.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: I meant to say: They listen to what I have to say and THEY make use OF their free will to do what they want. I speak with AUTHORITY? No, I speak what's in my heart to speak. If it comes out like that, then that lies with the reader. I'm not an AUTHORITY on anyone but realuvbaby. I'm just sayen . . .
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Hey' y'all. This might be dude from Atlanta. He's Bernice King's partner and he was at Corretta Scott King's funeral. Reports of Whitney and Bobby's divorce shocked the entire entertainment industry. While many suspected trouble in the marriage, few believed that the couple would actually call it quits. But MediaTakeOut.com has learned that Whitney may have moved on from the relationship a long time ago. We've discovered that for months now, the golden-voiced diva has been cozying up with a popular Christian minister. In an exclusive interview, we spoke with a woman who claims that Whitney and a nationally renowned minister have been carrying on a "close private relationship." The source told MediaTakeOut.com that the two met while Whitney was battling her drug addiction. According to the source, the minister served as a spiritual counselor to Houston. She explained, "at first [the minister] was just helping Whitney with her addiction, then the next thing you know they're going on weekend 'retreats' together." But there's a big problem with Whitney's new "relationship" - the pastor is currently married with children. Our tipster, who is also a close friend of the minister's wife, told us, "what Whitney is doing is just plain wrong, that man has a family." And she offers a stern warning, "I'm not accusing anyone of anything yet, but [the minister's wife] is not just going to sit back and let Whitney steal her man ... if stuff needs to get ugly, it will."
Name: ZYDECODIVA
Comment: MOTHERSHIP > Are they talkin' bout Bishop Eddie Long??
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Zyco, yep, sounds like him. He was helping Whit alot lately.
Name: gingerg
Comment: Mothership, You know you can't put the information out there like that and not name names. I'll take a shot at it, though. Are you referring to Eddie Long?
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: ZYDCO & GingerG, sounds like Eddie Long. He was helping Whitney during her first rehab situation which she stayed a minute and bounced.
Name: gingerg
Comment: That's interesting. A co-worker and I were having a conversation about Eddie Long on yesterday. She's one of these types who thinks she has superior status because she's married - to a well-known skirt-chaser who has been rejected by everyone, has one foot in the grave and one out and kept her waiting for 13 years - I disgress. Anyway, she was telling me how 70% of the women in church are single and Eddie Long shouldn't be wearing those short sleeved shirts because that will tempt them. I was like WTH?
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Ginger, half of folk in the church is runnin' around with each other or after the Pastor!
Name: ImJustAsking
Comment: Ginger< short sleeve shirts are tempting. Are you sure that lady ain't Muslim?
Name: gingerg
Comment: Well, she claims to have been a Muslim, among other things. I do know this - she is one of the biggest compulsive liars that I have ever met. She claimed to have been married in a beachfront ceremony in Florida, but brought in a license that indicated she was married in one of those $50 cermonies in Kentucky - three months later.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: MOTHERSHIP/ZYDECO>two words...SAY WHAT?????
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Ginger! Stop! This broad works with you?? See, that's that common, niggah shyt. I know a few of them my self! CTFU!
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Chassie, we think ol' White is perpetratin' with Eddie Long. See the article I posted.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: This is the second time i heard Eddie Long's name come up. lately i've been hearing he's doing something with...LUDACRIS???? and i heard this advertisement on BET. and they said it plain as day. Bishop Eddie Long. what's up with that? humm. now as far as those short sleeve shirts pastor always wear, actually they are muscle shirts cause Bishop likes to get his pump on and from the way he looks in those shirts he is busting out of the seams. I KNOW CAUSE I SEEN IT!
Name: gingerg
Comment: Yes! The first time she did something like that, I was a little taken aback. Now, it is so common that everyone in the office just rolls their eyes when she comes up with stories. Last year, she lost her house. She's telling people that she and her husband decided to move back to the hood because they are empty nesters.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: MOTHER>yeah i read it. hummm....quite interesting. hunny if this is to be true it will be the biggest blow out NB has ever experienced.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: MOTHER>and i'm sorry, they can't keep that one under the covers either! shoot! that will the the talk of the ATL!
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Chassie, it'll probably be a catfight too, cause wifey ain't havin' it.
Name: gingerg
Comment: And don't let the Atlanta Journal Constitution get ahold of that. It will be pure scandal. They did an expose on Eddie Long and his wife last year that made them both look like crooks.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: GINGERJ/WHAT? really? i didn't hear about that! what was that about? dayum and i live in the ATL and i didn't know.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: MOTHERSHIP>Chile, you know it is. shoot! that will be a sista's version of the Ali/Forman fight! lol!
Name: bigchassie
Comment: MOTHER>well, at least Eddie will help her cause if it was Cref (Cashflow) she would have been out of luck cause Cashflow ain't giving up a dollar! lol!
Name: gingerg
Comment: Oh, yes indeed. It was like a three-day series. They went into some scheme they have that nets them a lot of money, property and so forth. I'm sure it's still in the ALJ archives. It was some mess.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: GINJERG>WHAT?? dayum! i wonder is that how they aquired the land to build another church?
Name: gingerg
Comment: I found it in the archives. You have to type of "Bishop Eddie Long" and click All. The article is entitled "Bishop's charity generous to bishop - New Birth's Long received $3 million." It says that he established a non-profit, tax-exempt charity to help the needy and spread the gospel. There is nothing wrong with that. However, the charity actually provided him with a 1.4 million dollar home in Lithonia, use of a $350,000 Bentley as well as more than $1 million in salary in 2000. The charity made $3.1 million in donations between 1997 and 2000. Long and his wife were two of the four board members.
Name: gingerg
Comment: Here's the quote from Long that got my goat "We're not just a church, we're an international corporation. We're not just a bumbling bunch of preachers who cna't talk and all we're doing is baptizing babies. I deal with the White House. I deal with Tony Blair. I deal with presidents aaround this world. I pastor a multimillion dollar congregation. You've got to put me on a different scale than the little black preacher sitting over there that's supposed to be just getting by because people are suffering." The bible says pride commeth before the fall. Jesus is the son of God and he never sought to exalt himself. These mere mortals are something else.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: GINGERJ>WHAT THE FYUCCK!!! DAYUM! i'm sorry but these mega churches are racking the heyell up! that is crazy!
Name: gingerg
Comment: Yeah, but the devil is busy and the good Lord can bring them down like no one else. I don't care for preachers like Eddie Long because their talk too soon shifts to "I." They start smelling themselves as the old folks would say.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: GINGERJ>you know what? for some strange reason this puts me in the mind of two books i read "Church Folks" and "Casting the First Stone" if you have not read any of these books GET THEM! THEY ARE JUICY! and the prechers in both books sound just like Eddieboy here.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: YALL...I GOT TO GO BUT HUNNY, I GOT TO FIND THAT ARTICLE.
Name: gingerg
Comment: They are by Kimberla Lawson Roby. I've read all of them and you are so right. I think Curtis was the preacher's name.
Name: Stephanie
Comment: Gingerg...Wow. Can you send me the link to that article? Its so obvious these guys are crooks. That's what I love about my church and especially my pastor...he said people get swayed from the church from Pastors begging we only take up offering once and never during Sunday School or Bible Study. My pastor and his wife both have full time jobs and they are the most generous people you could ever meet. If you think about it, the majority of these guys' churches are filled with single, scorned women. I mean who would give money to a guy name Creflo Dollar with a wife name Taffy??? That spells scam all over it. They're just the black version of Jim and Tammy Faye. You know the government ain't gon let niggras get too rich but then again, those are big churches so spell VOTE!!!
Name: Stephanie
Comment: BigChas, which book came out first? I have Church Folks but have never read it.
Name: tllnvr
Comment: My 2cents....While I don't blame Bobby for Whitney's demons...whatever they are..I do think he was a factor. My issue is with Bobby...your wife stood by you while in court for pissing in a cops car, behind in child support, DUI/DWI, alleged affairs, abuse of many sorts, foreclosure on his Atlanta home that she saved by buying it and not once did she ever say anything negative about him. She always spoke highly on him. She was loyal to that man despite his own issues..Someone said it earlier..unconditional love. Now during his wife trying time you would think he would stand by her, but nope he didnt. The fact that he would allow his wife's issues to be filmed for Being Bobby Brown says it all to me. This man is about money. He sold out his wife, daughter just for a few bucks. She agreed to do it because no station would carry that show without her in it and because she was loyal and commited to that man. But I do believe everything happens for a reason. What dont kill you will no doubt make you stronger....
Name: justafu
Comment: That's a bunch of crap when she had issues as well and how was he sellling her and their daughter out if he was trying to make some legitimate money with that boogie-azz show?! They both had or have problems that they need to work on because their daughter has seen BOTH OF THEM DOING WRONG!!!
Name: tllnvr
Comment: Justfu if you had followed the story you would have known that initially she said no she was not going to do the show. But the producers said no Whitney no show. People watched because of her not him...and yes she has/had issues and according to Bobby he was sober/clean so if thats the case he should have stood by his wife. He was only with her for the money and status.
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