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whynotme
Comment: he apologized and the f*ggots are still not satisfied.....f*ck them!
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FiveMore
Comment: I knew something was brewing under the surface, because ABC aint fooling nobody but themselves.Stay up Shonda,I'll be pulling for you,GIRL!Isaiah apologized and there is still a massive firestorm blazing.Has anyone seen the N8igg@ spewing Kramer?
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NJBLKGUY
Comment: What does Kramer have to do with this situation?
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Teigh
Comment: Isaiah Washington brought this upon his self...it's one thing to make a stupid comment to the Press, he managed to make the stupid comment to the Foreign Press, live, satellites up and running and the whole nine. Now they are gunning for Shonda, in a very subtle way they are forcing her to state her position and putting ABC on notice that she has not. I will say this about the Gay community -- they are organized, they have cash and influence, they have an agenda, and they support each other. I've never accepted their argument that Gay rights are a civil right because I do not believe you can equate being Gay in America with istorically being Black in America -- but situations like this become their poster board examples of why they feel their plight is about civil rights. If we had one third of their "fire" with regard to our ecomonic power and how we use it, we'd eliminate alot of what we complain about that goes on deaf ears. I hope that Shonda and Isaiah don't turn on each other because it's pretty obvious that that's the plan.
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NJBLKGUY
Comment: Teigh- I agree with almost everything you said except "civil rights" does not automatically equal Black; "civil rights" apply to everyone.. not sure if that's what you meant....
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REDDOG
Comment: To: Teight and NJBLACKGUY, I concur with you both. I feel the biggest victim in this may end up being Shonda which will be terribly unfortunate. I was taught at an early age "learn to keep your mouth". Time and a place for everything!
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MsBenny
Comment: All Isiah needed to do was keep his mouth shut. Maybe he just does not think before he speaks. There are a lot of us that are guilty for this. Does not mean the man needs to lose his job.
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Monicia
Comment: You know " CHEESE WHITEY " been waiting on something like this! So they can say "See, and when Michael Richards used the N word, they went crazy". It's never enough for America. Sooo, two tears in a bucket, mofugit. Nuff said......
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WordUp
Comment: Nonetheless that Isiah used poor judgment to express his feelings publicly about fags, he doesn't deserve to lose his job and be ostricized. Please jump on petition bandwagons or whatever other mediums to support an obviously intelligent black man who made a mistake by running his mouth too much about homos. The queers will not destroy my brother if I can stop it, but I need your help!
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WordUp
Comment: PLEASE BE SURE TO READ THE ENTIRE STORY AND SIGN THE PETITION TO KEEP ISIAH ON GREY'S ANATOMY. I can see other good black actors in his role on the show, like Blair Underwood, but we can't let the faggot community dictate what happens to our people!
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nightshift
Comment: I can think of so many A/A actors that could fill his spot with a swiftness! He's an a$$ Off with his head!!
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Dovelyone
Comment: WordUp>>>> you and Isaiah might belong together. Isaiah brought this on himself, yes he did. Apparently, this term is offensive and more importantly, it was UNNECESSARY. It wasn't even called for. I admire(d) Isaiah up to this point. I thought he had more dignity and self-control. It would be nice for him to stay on the show, esp. since deeper offenses have occurred to Black folk and there were no repercussions. I won't sign either petition to keep him on or put him off the show.
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QueenCityBee
Comment: I can't take another week long of this story. You F-u-c-k-e-d up Pook!
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khufu
Comment: not that Kramer the individual has anything to do with this but surely racism and white cultural supremacy does:.... did Pittsburgh Post-Gazette TV critic Rob Owen write about the Kramer situation? why isnt Kramer STILL in the media...they should CONYINUALLY persecute his azz they way they still persecute Jesse for the HYMIE comment decades ago.....when it comes to US, again, YT is relentless....Rhimes had nothing to do with Washington's comment---so why the expectation that she should have somethig to say? SEE NLGJ@GUY white racism and white cultural supremacy is institutional and manifests itself in such ways as this situation......
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khufu
Comment: an interesting film to see is Haile Gerima's Adwa...and if you never saw his Sankofa, you should...ion ADWA it talks about how Ethiopians beat the sheet out of Italians under Emperor Menelik and AND HIS warrior wife in the 1800s...POINT BEING...do you know the Italians came back years later and defeated Ethiopia for vengeance.....nothing else.....yes, now yt can say see Kramer said the N word but WASHINGTON AND RHIMES USE THE F WORD......interesting how they see us as a unified community when it's time to blame........again what does Rhimes have to do with Washington's comment?
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khufu
Comment: last point..it's interesting how some of yall really hate Black men....LOL.."off with his head"...reminds me of the hatred for Wesley......LOL...
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FiveMore
Comment: Kramer has a whole lot to do with this situation.How can he get a way scott free and Isaiah suffers for his word choice.Isaiah never stated that he would hang F@GGOTS from a tree and lynch them.Kramer has conviently dissappeared while a whole show hangs in limbo.That is not fair!!!
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Angel
Comment: OK...Kramer ain't on ANYBODY's show so what would be the point of talking about him?!? Now if he popped up on GA or another show, THEN it would be appropriate to demand he be fired. Isaiah f'ed up...plain and simple. After his incident, did Kramer go on any show and proclaim that he didn't call those nig-gas, n*ggers?!? That would've been justification to beat him down on the spot. Isaiah had already apologized for calling that boy a f*ggot, so I don't get the point of his outburst at the Golden Globes, except he's just stupid. IW doesn't need to be fired, but it's time for Dr. Burke to take a leave of absence to go do some research for a couple of months.
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Angel
Comment: FiveMore - They are trying to get IW to disappear like Kramer did--that's the whole point of trying to get him fired. There's nothing you can do to Kramer since he is not currently on a show or attempting to be on one that I can see, so I don't get your point......
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AquaBoogie
Comment: WordUp, don't lump all 'queers' in the same boat. The gay community is not as unified as you think. What Isaiah did was stupid and insensitive in using such a mean-spirited word. But he apologized and it's time to move on. He should be able to keep his job and a lot of gay/lesbian people feel the same way.
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gingerg
Comment: He needs a publicist who is a miracle worker. He was caught on tape using the word again, dammit. How is that the first publicist's fault?
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gingerg
Comment: In the clip that I saw, Shonda kind of giggled after IW made the comment. No one else on the stage was laughing, though.
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chuchu
Comment: I can't even begin to understand the huge amount of hatred coming from the black community. Very interesting!
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NueNue
Comment: this is stupid. he called the man a faggot and then the guy said he HAD to come out as gay. which is gay in itself because NO ONE can force you to do anything you dont already want to do and then TR goes on a show crying cause he said "yes huh i heard him call me a punk btych". TR is a faggot and Isaih doesnt have anything to apologize for. Dont be gay and he wont have to call you that. nuff said.
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FiveMore
Comment: All I'm trying to say is that Hollywood is a land of contradictions and double standards.Shonda and Isaiah will be casualties in this politically correct society.1 Question for the board: Are black people generally homophobic?I have to admit being reared in a very homophobic traditional Baptist houshold.Lets be honest here, the African -American community does not openly accept the homosexual lifestyle.Isaiah, You must keep your personal feelings hidden,if you want to work in Hollywood.
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McNasty
Comment: Too damn much has been made of this situation especially in light of the fact that it should never have been repeated off that set. Let it go and let this brother keep his job. This isn't the first time someone was referred to as faggot and it won't be the last time. What? because he's on a critically acclaimed show he shouldn't have said it?! It was on his mind, slipped off his tongue and the deed is done. Let it go already it ain't that damn heavy.
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gingerg
Comment: Yes, the black community is generally homophobic.
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McNasty
Comment: LMBAO@NueNue!!!
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Angel
Comment: McNasty - So if another character on the show had called IW a Nig*ger under the same circumstances, would you feel the same way? Would you be telling folks to "let it go"?
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gingerg
Comment: McNasty, I think the real issue is that IW exhibited such a lack of self-control in a public forum while representing the show. And he's lying.
The staffers who overheard him say it the first time have already gone on record about that. Now, he's insisting that he didn't say it.
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gingerg
Comment: For all of the black people who are homophobic, there sure are a lot of brothers out here on the down low.
Oh, but they aren't gay - they are Men Who Have Sex With Men (MSM).
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McNasty
Comment: I don't know why folk keep saying the black community is homophoic when no one person can speak in such a general sense for everyone. The majority of the black community was raised to believe in the bible and what it says about homosexuals and most of us, politically correct or not, aren't willing to move away from that. That's not homophobia it's accepting what's real! Homophobia is an irrational hatred, disapproval or fear of gays. Speaking what's on your mind about gays doesn't even come close to that definition.
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McNasty
Comment: Gingerg okay so he lied or maybe he was just warding off the questions that were sure to come at the wrong time and he responded the wrong way at the wrong time. I'm not willing to villify this brother and less so because he's black. I'm just not into all this political correctnes because as I've said before, it keeps folks from saying what's really on their minds. I'd rather deal with him knowing where he's really coming from than him hiding behind pc. PC is a lie!
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McNasty
Comment: Angel under the same circumstances I sure as hell would!
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ebony_man2001
Comment: I can't agree that the black community is more homophobic. Many of the gains and acceptance the gay commnity has gotten is due to there contiuning compasion to the black comminity. True the black church aint crazy about there liftstlye but I don't remember seeing any black people in the streets protesting gay marrage. All I saw were white people.
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DCGG
Comment: I'm sooo sick of hearing about this shyt...
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WordUp
Comment: I'm sure Shonda has gone ghetto on Isiah privately while they've talked at home on the phone about this mess. I noticed too that Shonda slightly giggled after Isiah's stupid public repeat of the word faggot at the awards. The sissies will be jumping on that next, saying that Shonda laughed about it. Shonda sniggled because she was embarassed and she caught off guard by Isiah. It was not the kind of laugh where she thought what he said was actually funny. My first instinct has been to giggle too after somebody publicly embarassed me.
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Angel
Comment: McNasty - LOL. Just checking.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Ike:Did not-TR: Did too-Ike:Did not-TR: Did too-Ike: Did not-TR: Did too, and I'm telling Shonda...Shonda, Ike called me the F-word...Shonda: Now, now boys,Ike, did you call TR that?Ike: No Shonda, well I may have let it slip but that's what he is...TR: No, I'm not, I'm a homosexual...Sly and the Family Stone's song starts to play-Don't call me Faggot, Niggah..Don't call me Niggah, Faggot...TR: Shonda, I want TR fired or Imma tell all my powerful homosexual friends, Yeah, I'll show his Black azz, Ike: WTF? you don't scare me, I don't care who you tell...Sh1t, I'll tell my powerful African American friends, Shonda: Ike, who are these powerful friends?...Ike: Spike, Wesley and Rasheed and 'nem...Shonda: *sigh* Ike we gotta talk...Sly and the Family Stone's song starts to play-Don't call me Faggot, Niggah..Don't call me Niggah, Faggot...TR: Yeah, that's right I'm gonna tell Rosie, Ellen, Will and Grace. That ugly Black dude from America's Top Model...Ike: Aieght, I apologize for calling you that...I'm sorry man...TR: Naw, it's too late for that sh1t now...I want yo Black azz off the show, Dr. Burke is history *Two snaps...Shonda: Ike, why you wanna go fucc up my sh1t?...You know how long it's taken me to get this gig? Why couldn't you just enjoy the ride?(Niggahs always fuccing up sh1t)...TR: Uh,uh, Shonda, I don't want ya'll talking over there...Git Ike outta here now...*Sob-He hurt my feelings and I'm scared to work around that angry Blackman...McDreamy, can you get me a tissue?...Shonda: Sorry Ike, I'll see if I can get you on the Surreal life....
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Angel
Comment: ebony_man2001 - I guess you missed the big rally against gay marriage in Atlanta led by the black ministers (primarily Eddie Long). Coretta Scott King publicly denounced the rally.
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gingerg
Comment: I agree that Shondra wasn't laughing at the comment, but that is not how it will be interpreted. Folks are going to do everything they can to get rid of him in order to make a statement.
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Angel
Comment: Wordup - While she was doing the nervous giggle, in her mad I bet she was say "Ain't that a b*tch. I know this MF didn't just say that...Damn!!!" LOL
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Angel
Comment: Oops!! that should say "in her MIND".
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Renetta
Comment: I’m with and totally support Isiah on this. Why do we have to do summersalts and jump through hoops just to appease them? If everyone was fired for calling someone a bad name no one would have a job. He made a mistake now they’re trying to crucify the man and I’m sure the makers of CSI have some hand in this shyt too. They’re trying to kill the show. Shyt what the fck else did michael richards do other than apologize to us ‘afro americans’ as he’s called us. Did he do any volunteer work? Did he donate any money to black schools? Hell no. Didn’t do shyt and ain’t been seen since. I’m sick of this. They don’t like strong fierce black men – it emasculates them so they feel they have to bring him down a notch. I wish we had our own vehicles for film and television. I’m sick of having to beg them for shyt.
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ebony_man2001
Comment: Angel-Like I said the black church is not crazy about the gay lifestlye. That would include "black miniters" and there followers. Irish organizers in ny went to court to stop them from marching in the St patrck day parade. I guess you missed that one. Nobody's saying the irish are more homophbic.
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NueNue
Comment: Ok people keep saying this so I’m gonna comment on it and nip this in the bud real quick like. The f word is faggot. Say it people FAGGOT! Not the f word. That’s gay. The n-word is an actual BYA word (beat yo azz) when that word is said feelings get involved. When people say fag, fags cry and that’s it. When you look at a fag you don’t automatically know. Being a gay is lame. You have to tell people you’re a fruit to get discriminated against. So in response to people saying the n word is the same as faggot. I say you’re gay for thinking that.
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katgrrrl
Comment: BOOTANE, LMAO! Nue Nue, great point. That dude didn't HAVE TO come out. He coulda just done a Tom Cruise n' get married. This has become less about Isaiah callin' the dude a f****t and more about him gettin' a sista in trouble. I Love my people, but I ain't takin' the fall for nobody too stupid to keep their mouth shut!
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katgrrrl
Comment: NueNue: In response to your 2nd post, LMAOOOOOOOOO! "When people say fag, fags cry and that's it".
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Thank you, Renetta. They're making a damned mountain out fo a mole hill. Isaiah was asked a question he answered, so what? Ain't like dude ain't actually gay because he is. Outted himself to People Magazine no less, so WTF? Keep it movin'!
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NueNue
Comment: true katgrl i mean if he wanted to be gay then be gay. i dont dislike him for that i dislike him cause he is a punk. he could have stayed in the closet till he was ready or better yet. DONT TELL ANYONE CAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO KNOW. gay people and PETA are worse then them jehovah witnesses cause they feel like they have to push there gay on us like we care.
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Angel
Comment: ebony_man - What are you talking about? You were the one that said " I don't remember seeing any black people in the streets protesting gay marrage". I only pointed out a huge rally (primarily all black) that shows that there are blacks in the street protesting, too. Your whole point of saying I missed the Irish protest is not even relevant because I don't recall saying that others weren't protesting. So what was your point with that comment?
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Iwannasay
Comment: Another difference regarding how organized and militant the gay community is (vs. other oppressed groups) is they don't have arbitrary hatred of others who are not gay. I think that makes them much more liable to receive respect and deference. Think about that, people.
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johnlee120
Comment: I agree wit you ebony_man..obviously this p*ssy lickin butch Angel can't read. The church is the same as black minsters. Take yo lips off that smelly cl*t your lickin long enough to read.
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ebony_man2001
Comment: I'm done I've said what I had to say. lmao at johnlee120
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yunvme
Comment: oh lawd, yall still talking bout the gays? Here's my thoughts for the day. This is more than his comments. You all want to focus on that because "gays" are an easy target. Lets not forget that just a month or so before this he CHOKED one of his co-workers.Isiah has issues for real. If he gets fired its not because he called someone a name.
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Bad_Kitty
Comment: "Can't we all just get along?"
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Angel
Comment: johnlee - First, grow up. I think thou dost protest too much. Second, there were a handful of black ministers and the rest WERE BLACK PEOPLE - Is that clearer for you?
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golfebj
Comment: Old boy TR played this up by coming out. Isaiah was stupid for thinking skies were all clear for making the statement again in such in a public forum. Yes, the gay and lesbian community are pushing milking this cow until it's puffing powder.
They are looking for any sympathy that can be garnered out of this. Yes I.W. was stupid and has a history of being tough to work with because of his attitude.
When did this organization become the police? Where were they when Ellen lost her sitcom, or when Rosie came out or when anyone else came out.
Irony is that they are going after a black guy on a show with a black creator/writer. I wonder if this would fly if one of the "Friends" had said it!
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khufu
Comment: while I dont condone calling a gay person a derogatory term nor treating them disrespectfully LETS BE CLEAR: if one says that homosexuality is immorally and spiritually wrong that does not make them homophobic....look the word up.....
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NueNue
Comment: no one knew who that faggot was till isaih called him a faggot. TR should be happy he is getting attention at all
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musbdherbs
Comment: Angel...what we should FIRST do is stop comparing FAGGOT to NIGGHER. Although BOTH terms are offensive, one has absolutely nothing to do w/the other. That's exactly what yt gay folk wanted, to be able to compare their "struggle" to the civil rights/slavery. Those two are as totally different as redneck is to niggher. I'm sure I'm called all types of nigghers by yt folk I've encountered on my jobs. Do I think that they should've fired even tho they didn't say it to me..but may have in their own offices... HELL NO! ya'll better watch out w/this..."this is what you can and can't say in private." Free country my azz....
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khufu
Comment: now for me growing up in NY I know the word faggot is another way to identify a gay Black man....like "Butch" is to describe a female gay person...rember "bull-dagger?".....so it could be the manner in which IW said it that was derogatory....the word itself is not histroically or etymologically slanderous towrds gay men...not in the Black comunity.....key words for those who might attack my position with the N word usage....HISTORICALLY and ETYMOLOGICALLY........
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mrseoliver
Comment: I think Isiah has some deep issues with himself.Yes I think that he is a good actor, but just other entertainers (music, film etc...) they have a tendency to believe that they can say or do anything they want and not be held accountable for it. I am not saying that he should be fired, but like some of our parents have told us when we were younger "if we don't have anything good to say then don't say anything at all!" He needs to take some social classes so he can learn what to and what not to say in public. Especially during an awards show. He makes himself look like an a$$; and makes himself seem guilty by still refering to the entire situation.
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khufu
Comment: I agree that IW should have been alil more politically astute and sensitive
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Maverick
Comment: Fired for saying the word "FAGGOT", or fired for saying the word "FAGGOT" at the Golden Globes? I think the latter is what has really offended a lot of people the most. I do think that Mr. Washington action, words and choice of venue for vocalizing them are definitely innapropriate and in bad taste. I saw the footage of when he said the statement, but I must be quite honest, I was more disturbed by the fact that Mr. Rhimes was actually right beside him when he said it. I am not by no means implying that Ms. Rhimes is in support of his statement, but what about his level of respect for her - to not conduct himself in that manner in her presence. I wonder if Oprah Winfrey, Barbara Walters, Dick Wolf or Jerry Bruckheimer was Grey's Anatomy creator, would he feel as comfortable behaving in such a manner in their presence. Fact of the matter is, this issue has been going on for a while now, and clearly however it was addressed with Mr. Washington in the past, if in fact it was, did not have the impact that is required for him to understand the impact his words and attitude has on the rest of the world. Ms. Rhimes and ABC are definitely responsible for allowing this atmosphere to continue in the work environment. More disturbing is the fact that the show might actually increase in viewership because of this. In case no one knows, Seinfeld latest DVD release 2 months ago. outsold all the previous series. I really wonder if the masses every really "GET IT". I do not think he should be fired, but something definitely needs to be done, BECAUSE his behavior just might affect another black man being viewed in a negative light by the already prejudicial world. Thanks for nothing Mr. Washington, we as a people are already "behind the 8 Ball" as they say, and your actions has not helped. Maybe now you will understand that the world is bigger than how you feel at the moment. Good Night and Good Luck!
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musbdherbs
Comment: Hey look at that "f-word" walking down the street. PUHLEEZE! The only "-word" we have is NIGGHER (n-word) and to think people are comparing the two... unh hunh..yeah right..
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khufu
Comment: the publicist was probably gay
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khufu
Comment: when did homosexuality become "right" int he Black community?
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johnlee120
Comment: Angel>> oh I see you pulled your lipps off of that cl1t to reply. Black people like you kill me. You are so he11 bent on defending groups that don't give a %*$! about blacks. People were posting that black people were more homophobic. There are white people (Irish) who are worst than black people can imagine to be towards fags. You need to get yourself some d1ck. Next time douche before you post..your stinking up the place wit yo stupit azz fag lovin opinions.
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Peekiebear
Comment: Shonda Rimes has NOTHING to do with Washington's actions. However, if you don't know, Rimes is one of the most powerful people in show biz-period. To be the show's creator (Grey's Anatomy) of a top rated show is unbelievably difficult- and to be black, too? Rimes has worked so long and so hard to get where she is and she is a beacon to those who understand this biz. forget the stars- the real power is behind the scenes.
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Angel
Comment: Musb - I'm not comparing homosexuality to the black struggle. I'm comparing a slur to a slur. If you called a coworker a nigg*er, c*nt, b*tch, cracker, redneck, etc., that's unacceptable behavior. You can say whatever you want in private, but in the public arena (especially the workplace) there are consequences.
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khufu
Comment: and I believe that the word FAGGOT has two different cultural meanings.........white folks look at it different than Black folks...again: a war of cultural difference but most still want to believe that yt and Black folks are the same...we really arent....anyway, if they were to intelligently discuss the meaning of the words with Black folks and white folks, there would be a difference about what the words mean......Black folks historically dont put that much meaning into the word...it's always been used rather flippantly in most Black communities..it was the word that was used beofre "GAY" stopped meaning "happy"...Faggot and "sissy"
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khufu
Comment: DIvide and conquer....yt's modus operandi.......
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ebony_man2001
Comment: well I usualy don't get into it with anyone. But I though my post was clear. I was simply replying to those who stated that blacks are more homophbic and gave the Irish situation as an example. When I said the black church..I should havd been more specific and stated followers as well.
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yasmine1
Comment: remember the movie with Elizabeth Shue called the ADVENTURES OF BABYSITTING.. here was a major line in that movie.. that i need to say to Isaiah.. when in the entertainment industry.. DON'T %*$!( with gay audience.. Beenie Man and Buju Banton can tell you.. you will be for your ignorant statement... you are making too much money to be that foolish...
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khufu
Comment: ...that's what's behind the attack on Shondra Thimes.....yall keep fookin with these yt's LOL separate from they azes...if you believe in the 2nd coming...when you see Jesus coming...look around and there are any white folks near RUN!!!!!! the lightening gon tear their azzes up!
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WordUp
Comment: Co-sign, Angel. I know Shonda got Isiah at a place where she could cuss his behind out, black style!
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khufu
Comment: sho you right YASMINE.....when I used to write Op ED's..id always tell folks: I dont write about....Israel...I dont write about Jews...I dont write about the Nation of Islam and I dont write about gay folks..........all taboo topix
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Angel
Comment: OK ebony_man2001 (or should I say johnlee 120), it's time for your nap. I never said blacks were more homophobic (I haven't said anything about homophobia)......reading is fundamental. And for the record, just because you protest against gay marriage doesn't mean you're homophobic.
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yunvme
Comment: it dont matter what it use to mean, its what it means now. No one in this country should be discriminated against. PERIOD. Everybody seems to be stuck on the gay vs. Black struggle. Its not about that (i dont think). Its about dignity of life. We black people dont own the market on "Struggle". What about Kikes, what about Redskins? In history, many groups have had to deal with these things. Because we can vote now, we are doing the same things against other "groups" gays/mexicans that were done to us no more than 40 years ago. This whole "my struggle was more than yours" is STUPID. We should all want what is right for ourselves and each other.
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MsVanese
Comment: This is just plain stupid. The man apologized, what else is he supposed to do? He made a mistake, geesh, who hasn't? Anyway, either some of these folks have other projects & need to publicity or they just want Isaiah off of the show, PERIOD!!
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gingerg
Comment: They just want IW off the show, period. I'm sure they would also like to see an openly gay character. TR's character, George, is not.
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yunvme
Comment: did they want him off the show before or after he physically attacked one of his co-workers?
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gingerg
Comment: And JohnLee 120, you know what you said was wrong. Why the woman got to be all of that? Why can't she just have a difference of opinion?
That brings me to another point. Some black folks' issues with homosexuality stems from what they think people do behind closed doors (i.e., what they lick and so forth). However, if the truth be told, some of you go anal and so forth, so why have a fit about homosexuality? And one more thing, some of these dances folk do look like simulated anal sex anyway.
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Maverick
Comment: For the people who cannot seem to understand why Mr. Washington's behavior and statements are under such intense scrutiny. 1. With the crown comes the thorns. 2. He is a black man in a world "Hollywood and The Media" that is controlled by white people, with a large amount who are actually homosexuals. Why wouldn't they be outraged - it's a given. 3. When you are in the spot light, you cannot simply say what you feel. It is simply not wise, diplomacy is paramount at all times.
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khufu
Comment: well then YUN you have no problem with the usage of the N word then if what you say is ture...you said: it doesnt mater what it meant then, what matters is what it (a word) means now...
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khufu
Comment: historical and cultural context are always important especially in situations like these and usage of "offensive" language.......context, context, context
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NueNue
Comment: faggot is not a slur its a bundle of sticks or a gay dude....
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khufu
Comment: and where did IW DISCRIMINATE in using the word "faggot?"
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khufu
Comment: thank you NUE NUE I was just about to go get a definition....wisdom from NUENUE
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Maverick
Comment: One more thought, where you satisfied when Michael Richards apologized? The rules and standards has to be the same across the board. The rules cannot and should not ever be different from one person to the next. That is where all the negative forces that is now corrupting our society and civilization started.
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khufu
Comment: Agsin YT says something about and against a Black person and ignant Black folks support yt in their accusations and persecution...most of the folks here jumping on the hate Isaiah wagon dont even REALLY know what the damn word FAGGOT really means......
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gingerg
Comment: GLAAD has spun this into a workplace issue by claiming that IW is creating a hostile work environment for his co-workers, including TR, because he is known to use the term faggot. The issue is much larger than IW. He is just a pawn in this game. Consider what will happen if other studios begin to reign stars in based on this premise.
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yunvme
Comment: khufu yes I have a problem with %*$!(@ too. I dont care what something meant then. But in this case what it meant then is the same as what it means now, so I dont understand your angle.
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Maverick
Comment: This is a ground breaking place for America to arrive at.....All our prejudices and hate is spewing it's way to the TOP....Maybe now we can have some honest dialouge about the issues. Real talk...that is the only kind that will affect any real change. Change is usually painful, but helpful in the end. Yes, people we are growing.
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khufu
Comment: MAV excellent point! however there is a difference....400 years of oppresson, exploitation, etc are attached to the N word....and it wasnt just about Rochards but a people and a system and a country......context, context, context
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yunvme
Comment: GLAAD doesnt have to spin anything. He became a "workplace" issue when he physically attacked his co-worker. If that wasn't bad enough he used language at the workplace that is unacceptable. Now that is something I'm sure we have all be guilty of from time to time. But its all about who you say it in front of.
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khufu
Comment: YUN why do you have a problem with the N owrd? based on your logic, the workd N---h no longer has its same historical meanin, right? well according to most Black folks who use it as a term of endearment...they agree with your logic...the way it was used THEN is not the way it's used now......so as you say, if present meaning supercedes historical meaning---as in the F word---then why do you have a problem with the usage of the N word in THIS DAY and AGE?
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khufu
Comment: dang MAVERICK another excellent point--thing is--can folks have honest and real and informed and educated discussion?
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yunvme
Comment: khufu man you are losing points today. We dont need to know what faggot means in the dictionary. We know how it was said/used in this case. What is the definition for "N1gger" in the dictionary?
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gingerg
Comment: Let's say IW is canned. Will the punishment fit the crime or would an unpaid suspension suffice?
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yunvme
Comment: I have a problem with words that are used to hurt peoples feelings.
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mseffy
Comment: The N word; The F word. A little human respect would go a long way to eliminate the hurtful, juvenile name calling that seems to be headline news these days. It's interesting how many obscure 'writers with blogs' and 'interest groups' jump on the publicity bandwagon over such derogatory and inflammatory press. Shame on them all. If the story was about a remark about our responsibility as Americans to see that every child is properly educated so that we wipe out illiteracy, there would be a collective yawn by the media!!!
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yunvme
Comment: I checked the dictionary and Faggot doesnt mean gay. They do note that as a slang term it can mean gay man. So if you are trying to claim that its ok cause even in the dictionary it says faggot means gay then you also have to accept the fact that in the same dictionary under n1gger it list "black person/man"- as a slang term of course.
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khufu
Comment: let me see if I can explain before I get outta here...listen......first: the word Nigg-r is in most dictionaries and it is clearly cited as a derogatory term.......and even before it was included in the dictionary the usage of the word gave it is meaning.....understood? Ultimately usage of a word gives the word its meaning...that's why some words are no longer used...they are "Dead" and some words take on new meanings over time
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khufu
Comment: now, the word faggot............The origins of the word in this sense are rather obscure.
It is often claimed that the derivation is associated directly with faggot meaning "bundle of sticks for burning", since homosexuals were supposedly burnt at the stake in medieval England. More accurately, they were doused in fuel and used in place of sticks for the burning of supposed witches (Fone, Byrne., Homophobia 2000). However, this practice ended centuries before the word faggot became associated with gay people. [1] This does not rule out the association of gay men with the word 'faggot' occuring because of this historical practice. The ability to label homosexuals 'faggots' in hindsight of the practice of using homosexuals as fuel to burn 'witches' in the Middle Ages cannot be ruled out. In this sense the epithet can be incredibly offensive, equating the value of the person so-called to lower than a reviled person that one would like to burn at the stake, in fact their value is only as fuel to burn the object of revulsion.
The word has also been used since the late sixteenth century to mean "old or unpleasant woman". [2] Female terms are often used with reference to homosexual or effeminate men (cf. nancy, sissy, queen). However, why the word 'faggot' would be used to describe an old women has not been explained. This too may be in reference to the witch hunts in which old women were particularly targeted.
The Yiddish word faygele, lit. "little bird", is claimed by some as the origin of the word. The difference in form between the two words makes this unlikely to be true, although it may have had a reinforcing effect.
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khufu
Comment: British meanings
"Faggot"
The primary traditional meaning of the word is indeed 'a bundle of sticks for burning' as evidenced in such fictional works as J.R.R.Tolkien's Lord of the Rings.
Another meaning, especially common in Wales and the Black Country, is a kind of pork meatball covered in gravy. See Faggot (food).
The word faggot is occasionally used in parts of Britain to denote a silly or foolish person, presumably as an extension of its earlier association with old women. In the pilot episode of the 1960s British comedy In Loving Memory from Yorkshire Television, undertaker Jeremiah Unsworth is killed in an accident at work. After the funeral, widow Ivy receives the condolences of her old friend Amy Jenkins, who says, "He heard the call. He answered it. And he fell in the line of duty. No man can ask for a better epitaph than that." Ivy thanks her, says good-bye, and then turns to her nephew, Billy, as soon as the door is shut and says in reference to Amy, "Silly old faggot! 'He heard the call?' 'He answered it?' The only call your Uncle Jeremiah ever heard was, 'Time, Gentlemen, please!'."
"Fag"
In British English the term fag (though not faggot) most commonly means a cigarette. A military marching song popular with the British army during the First World War featured the line "while there's a Lucifer (matchstick) to light your fag...". This is derived from the original meaning (OED 1) of "fag-end" :"the last part of a piece of cloth", which by extension became used (OED 2, 1st citation 1612) for "the last part or portion of anything". When cigarettes were invented, this was applied to the unsmoked part, and then came to mean the whole cigarette. But the various historic British uses of "fag" and "faggot" were always distinct.
"Fag" was a term used for a junior boy who acted as a servant for a senior boy at Eton College, near Eton, Berkshire, and other British public schools. This practice, known as "fagging", was ended in the 1970s. Since the homosexual meaning was not common in the UK at this time and seems to have been first attached to faggot, not fag, this is not a likely origin for the American use of the word.
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yunvme
Comment: your putting to much emphasis on the word on not on his actions. I hope no one chokes you at work or calls you a faggot. Whether they are "assuming" or not.
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khufu
Comment: The American Meaning in Britain
The use of fag and faggot to mean homosexual have become understood as an Americanism in British English, primarily due to their use in films and television series imported from the United States. When Labour MP Bob Marshall-Andrews was heard supposedly using the word in a bad-tempered informal exchange with a straight colleague in the House of Commons lobby in November 2005, he was criticised for using homophobic abuse.
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khufu
Comment: yun...lol am i really? you obviously have very little clue about the complexities regarding these matters and that was my point to MAV...the real depth and commitment to trulu get at resolviong these issue most folk in this country dont have.....
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yunvme
Comment: >>since homosexuals were supposedly burnt at the stake in medieval England.<<
So was this before or after slavery? I'm wondering cause we put so much stock on "our struggle". Who has been discrimated against longer? Fags or black people? Why do we often not care about others who have suffered for who they are?
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khufu
Comment: now as for Black folks and the usgae of the word FAGGOT...it was used like the wor sissy and punk to describe a homosexual man....in the 60s and 70s....the word gay had no really come to the forefront
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yunvme
Comment: man you need to stop with all that info. LoL. Dont play dumb we all know what he meant when he said faggot.
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khufu
Comment: now I am not condoning IW's usage of the word to insult anyone...all I am saying is that his usage comes from a different cultural space than yt's...but cultural difference is not something most folks can really understand and discuss especially those Black folks who want so bad to be white or accepted as white....
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khufu
Comment: and by the way, did you know that the word/phrase AMERICAN historically merans "white person".....?
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tauronb
Comment: Whats teh big deal he called a fag a fag!!!. We call %*$!('s %*$!('s every day. The problem is he keeps apologizing for it. Be a man and stick by it. Don't let the media and the gay agenda punk you. You are not gonna tell me that nobody else on Grey Anatomy every said the word faggot. Miss me with that. Nobody forced TR Night to come out of the closet. He did it willingly. Isaiah didn't say anything that everyone who saw TR didn't already figure out.
I'm soo tired of every thing being about the Gay agenda, the Black Agenda, the Republican, Democratic etc agendas. We are all people. People mess up sometimes. We can all get along and coexist without everyone being so sensitive all the time.
Isaiah shouldn't lose his job cause he called someone a fag. Just like nobody loses their job for saying %*$!(, spic, wetback, border jumper, wop, pollock, Malacka or any other of the 5 million other slang terms we use for each other every freakin day of the year.
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khufu
Comment: YUN are you Black? LOL who has suffered longer? first why are you comparing? two" i dont care about the struggles of homosexuals...i respect them as human however....homosexuality is not natural girlfrined......read your history by the way...not theirs or their account of yours....you are off centre historically
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khufu
Comment: YUN LOL see that phrase "too much information" betrays you.....
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yunvme
Comment: I see that everyone is overlooking the fact that this man physically %*$aulted one of his co-workers. Thats one of the problems in the black community. Denial. Ok. I'm gonna let you faggots continue this conversation. I'm out.....NO and not in that way. LoL.
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khufu
Comment: so is this phrase derogatory..."flamin'"
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Name:
khufu
Comment: YUN why are you defending so much...i am curious.....
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Name:
khufu
Comment: or is this derogaory "lesbo?"
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Name:
khufu
Comment: YUN coward...you never addressed the issue...LOL half-baked azz opinions.....
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yunvme
Comment: Every since I was a kid- I could never get with people that made fun of other people, talked about them, made fun of them, etc. Its as simple as that. As an adult I HATE ignorance. Its as simple as that. If I say anymore I'm gay cause I'm defending to much. Its too much really. The world I wish existed doesnt. But I will always try to educated ignorant mutha fvckers.
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yunvme
Comment: and I will always try to learn, as well.
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Name:
McNasty
Comment: It's apparent that some of y'all just want to be arguing about something so I'm glad IW gave you an issue. Too bad it doesn't have more meat (substance) so at this point you all are sucking on dry bones. It's not a civil rights issue, he wasn't trying to be politically correct, the black community is not homophobic, IW doesn't have any deepseated issues (otherwise you'd have to say all brothers do) the only 'problem' is his inability to hold down his anger for grown as.s folks. Let it go already! The fact that he yoked a mutha speaks to lack of patience - that's it and that's all - don't act like you never wanted to do the same damn thing.
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yunvme
Comment: ummm. lets see... as a grown azz man I dont go around calling people names like I'm on the playground or something and I dont go chokin muthfvckers either. Its called maturity. Some of us never reach it I guess.
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xavixavi
Comment: I had to jump in. IW may be fired for being STUPID. He has had many issues w/other people. Lying after a veiled apology was just plain stupid. He shouldh have just said next question, or old news (which it should have been).
Shonda is being called out b/c she is his boss, and ain't said diddly. Remember what they did to Bawbwa s/ Rosie???
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musbdherbs
Comment: YUNV....no the entire american population is in denial! The most egregious act IW committed was choking his co-worker and NO ONE (black, yt, or gay thinks that's an issue). Oh no, we're fixated on him repeating a word he used to describe his co-worker. IW was fkd up from the beginning w/even thinking about saying FAGGOT! If he had said "I'm not your (lil gay boy, lil homo, or lil f-word) like T.R., he STILL would've been wrong. That's y this debate is so stupid. People are so horrified by this one damn WORD! He could've said I didn't call him a homo or a "gay-boy" and this still would've been a bunch of media bullshyt! No he shouldnt' have said it in the first place but this is bullshyt plain and simple.
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MRSDENNIS2B
Comment: How in the he!! did any of this info get out into the public to begin with? This issue should have been dealt with among the Grey's Anatomy family, period!
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musbdherbs
Comment: What's next r-word for redneck, w-word for wetback? Give me a break and the pure EVIDENCE that this has very little to do w/the actual "term" he used. Have you EVER heard ne1 refer to George Allen using the "m-word" for macaca. From what I know, that's a racial slur used against who again? Or did Jessie Jackson refer to "h-town" when discussing HYMIE-TOWN? All of those are racial slurs but we STILL use it. FAGGOT is a negative term but it certainly doesn't denote race. Ya'll can believe this "f-word" bullshyt if ya'll wanna cuz I got a War to sell you, uhm...see whathadhappened was...somebody told me that...uhm...Sadaam had WMD's! Yeah right!
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Penelope
Comment: This got into the public because Isaiah hit McDreamy when he chastised him about his behavior. But, IW is on one of the mostpopular shows that has a hughly racial, ethnic and culturally diverse cast. Plus, the characters are in , portraying people in positive positions. He should have thought better.
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Sexee
Comment: GLAAD is becoming a dangerous force. If this fire isn't doused it will leave our society in a world of turmoil.
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prettygirl
Comment: I live in Houston and I am very good friends with two people who went to Willowridge High School with Isaiah. One of these women was physically abused by Isaiah. She was madly in love with him, but he has anger and aggression issues that really need to be addressed. Also, any man that must constantly demean and call gay men "faggots" always makes my radar go up - is IW trying to hide mixed feelings about his own sexuality? It appears that "he doth protest too much."
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NueNue
Comment: ok so this faggot thing is dead news this is what i just read about sean bell......
Queens prosecutors are set to bring evidence from the police shooting before a grand jury at the Kew Gardens courthouse today (January 22). As SOHH previously reported, Bell was killed in the early hours of November 25 as he and two friends left the Kahlua Cabaret in Jamaica, Queens, where they celebrated his bachelor party.
Officers fired 50 shots at the three men, reportedly out of fear that they were reaching for weapons. All three were unarmed and Bell's friends, who were both wounded in the shooting, say the officers did not identify themselves as police. The four detectives and one officer present that night have been on paid leave since the incident occurred.
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Penelope
Comment: Prettygirl...I'm with you. I think he has some deeply rooted psychological issues that need some addressing. As far as high school...well, he's been cutting up ever since. I read that he and Traci Edmonds got into it when he was on Soulfood (I think.) He has a history of behaving badly.
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gingerg
Comment: Mrs.Dennis: The Grey's set is just like any other workplace. You have people waiting around trying to find out what they can hear and spread. In my office, you can't walk anywhere without passing gossips in the hallway.
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Synthia
Comment: I find it appalling and hypocritical for the same black people who crusade for civil rights to dismiss any group's need/demand to be treated with dignity and respect -- that includes being protected by racial slurs hurled in public by someone on a popular T.V. show supposedly supporting diversity. How dare you support Isaiah. Why, because he's black? Well, get past that...you're human ..identify with human rights here. Gays are not the only people who want Isaiah gone. I'm a straight black woman and I do. I don't believe popular mass media platforms should be given to cavalier people with little judgement, restraint, class or respect for fellow human beings. Let him suffer the fate of Pete Rose, etc.
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Maverick
Comment: I consider myself to be somewhat of an intelligent human being, but if someone refers to me as a FAGGOT, I am coming to see them or patiently wait for the opportunity to get at them, especially if the comment came from another man. I am surprised that you ladies and gentlemen have spent so much time dissecting the actual meaning of the words "FAGGOT" and "%*$!(@", as if the actual meaning can change the derogotory intent behind them, when they are used. When Michael Richards used the word %*$!(@, God knows most of us were outraged, but that also made us all look at, us (Blacks) using the word. Fact of the matter is, if we expect to hold other races accountable for using the word "%*$!(@", then we as a people should not use it either, because we will be viewed as hypocritical; as people who sets standards to suit our needs, you know, "Don't do as I do, just do as I say". How REAL is that? Not only will it make the actual standard worthless and empty, it will make the very standard a joke, that no one will respect or adhere to. The same prespective can be utilized in regards to Mr. Washington's statement. It was not conveyed as a term of endearment, that is why Mr. Washington tried to deny it, because even he understood the hurt and the perception of him it would create, so he tried to seperate himself from it by repeating it - not necessarily the smartest thing to do, but he was probably caught up in his own emotions and the excitement of the moment and the questions being thrown out about him and his past behavior. That is why I do not believe he should be fired, because no one is perfect, and we have all had an emotional moment in our life. Yes, the words do not originate in derogatory meanings, but we as a people and nation have used them to objectify, demoralize, subjugate, belittle each other for centuries, and that none of us can change. We can only realize the pain they cause and simply choose other more positive terms to identify each other.
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McNasty
Comment: Y'all need to check weekly columns and read Yasmine Cannick's article.
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Synthia
Comment: Oops. by= "from"....from racial slurs...
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Name:
jess
Comment: Here's the problem. Isaiah is becoming a liability with his inability to think before he speaks. As popular as Grey's Anatomy is, if sponsors start dropping out, this show will be in deep doo-doo. Potentially, Isaiah's unprofessional behavior will cost the network and the cast and crew money, including Shonda Rimes. But even worse, it would cost Shonda the biggest prestige that any sistah has attained in that end of the television industry in a long time if ever. You bet your %*$ she probably cussed him out. If any of you were her, what would you do? Stay loyal to him or do what it takes to save the career she worked so hard for? Something tells me if this flap continues to gain steam, she won't remain silent too much longer.
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Synthia
Comment: Firing is not too stiff of a penalty. He'd still be alive. My goodness. I'm not saying kill the man. And Shonda and Grey's will be just fine. She does need to distance herself from him and what he respresents. Let him work on whatever "stuff" allows him to make these comments. He can do that without the luxury of a hit show. And as for Michael Richards ... he was not on a hit show. Had he been, perhaps he wuld have been fired. Not sure. Jerry really didn't seem that offended. It's laughable that he fired his publicist. He's the one at fault. If you're an azz I'm not certain how much a good publicist can help ... with your spontaneous grabbing of the microphone and all...
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gingerg
Comment: Grabbing the mike was the part that tripped me out. I was like, they were not talking to you, they were talking about you. Let it ride and go on to the next party. I bet his wife is mad was he11.
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gingerg
Comment: I saw an interview in which IW talked about how he could never say such a "vile" thing to another human being knowing damn well that he had done just that. That is what folks are having a fit about. Either he is delusional or thinks he is a better actor than he really is.
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Sexee
Comment: He's a big dummy, his show is not in syndication and he stands to lose $$$.
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Name:
GHank
Comment: Didn't Isaiah play a gay man in the Spike Lee movie "GET ON THE BUS"?
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Name:
imtalking
Comment: I think what happen is IW called him a faggot meaning "dumba**" and TR got parinoid and came out the closet. His bad! lol
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Name:
musbdherbs
Comment: This is what we can expect when we allow ANY group to wield so much power. Were gays offended w/QUEER eye for the Straight guy. Ooops I mean "q-word" eye for the straight guy. Give me a break. The same "let's protect gays rights" are some of the same people in the amen corner at churches, and support anti-gay rights initiatives. NOW are we gay-friendly. Ya'll really, really, need to quit. Maybe IW should've called him a queer. That really would've been an interesting debate. Can't call him queer bcz it's an offense to human rights.... And the winner goes to DUMB AZZ PEOPLE!
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gingerg
Comment: Well, if they do decide to fire him, perhaps it would be best to do so by certified letter because he would surely clown on set.
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JadaJean
Comment: I can't believe how ignorant some of my people are. So judgemental too. Live and let live. Whose business is it who that man sleeps with and what he does. Go ahead and attack me - I could give a good god damned.
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MrsPhoenix
Comment: khufu, why is it taboo to write about the Nation of Islam??
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Name:
McNasty
Comment: Musb the reason, according to gays, that queer means nothing to them anymore is because they took posession of it and use it as referenced by you like any other common word. The fact is faggot will always be around as europeans (some) use the short version to refer to cigarettes. GHank he sure did!
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OaktownDiva
Comment: So many of you appear to be sheep, flocking along with the herd. Isiah did NOT call him a f***. He used the term while addressing Patrick Dempsey who was late cause he was getting his hair did, and TR cut into the convo by stating "oh leave him alone" and walked off back around the corner, and Isiah snapped and said "I'm not going to be your little F***"... AND he did NOT out TR... the man was already out as gay to his co-workers and friends. Finally, the "Fire Isiah" campaign BS, cause majority of the so called journalist bloggers that are "supporting" TR and promoting this nonsense were posting items vicious blind items about him before. And the arsehole reporter Ted Casablanca who started this nonsense all over again gets all kinds of free publicity, which he planned as he stated so on his site. Finally, if someone asks you a question like did you call James a punk, you would normally answer, no, I did not call james a punk. That's how the question was posed to Isiah. The reporter used the word f****, Isiah repeated it, now he's the bad guy. Please black people, be smarter than this, support the brother and stop letting others use one of us
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Name:
McNasty
Comment: JadaJean I'm glad I'm not one of your people as it's obvious you came to the board with your fists balled up ready for a fight - won't get one here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and those that came calling everyone else judgemental and hypocritical need to check themselves cause not everyone thinks the same way about this situation or any other, and I'm glad of that!
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Name:
ladybyrd
Comment: I watched this story about Patrick Dempsey and he was known as a difficult Actor to work with. Patrick & Isaiah had an argument and Isaiah said "I'm not your little fagot like T.R." I'm assuming T.R. is kissing & sucking upto Patrick Dempsey.
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McNasty
Comment: BIG UPS TO OAKTOWNDIVA for coming with the correct information. Now, can we all just get along?!
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Name:
ladybyrd
Comment: Isaiah is the ONLY one who can pull off Dr. Burke
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musbdherbs
Comment: McNas'...see that's the problem I have w/the "we can use it but u can't" argument...even those referring to the "niggher" debate. If and I say if...MRichards decided to say "I apologize for using the term "niggher," I wouldn't have been so horrified as other probably would've. I guess that's the perspective I'm looking at when talking about this foolish issue. He did not call ne1 a faggot in that press conference, he repeated the word in the most general sense and applied it to no 1. That is just silly to me.. But oh well, that's the media and happy-go-lucky gay folk. McNas..I can tell you this, I bet this has been a wakeup call for Jasymne and all other black gay rights folks. They'll more than likely think 2wc b4 they align themselves w/an agenda that will eventually forget about them. Even BLACK people were proposing that this guy should be fired. That's what really is disturbing. You shouldn't support somebody simply becuz their black..but you should at least be more objective in your criticisms.
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Name:
ladybyrd
Comment: khufu > I agree!
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Ladybyrd, why does TR have to be sucking AND kissing?!! LOL
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gingerg
Comment: IW should have told the reporter to kiss his azz, had a glass of Cristal and then headed out the Prince's party.
Commenting on this stuff was not worth what it will cost him and his family in the long run.
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ebony_man2001
Comment: You're right ANGEL, reading in fundamental but you need to be hooked on phonics..You clearly are incapable of comprehending what you read. Johnlee just put it more bluntly.Just because someone else is pointing out your stupidity don't blame me. I try to show people more respect than that.
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soulmusic101
Comment: The late great Correta Scott King is sadly shaking her head in disgust. i used to jump on the bandwagon and despise "gay's" but after I grew up, what two consenting adult's do is really not my business. Although I now think that the Brother has learned his lesson and should not ne fired unless he has another public outburst. just my 2 cent's. Let he or she that is without sin cast the 1st stone.
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Angel
Comment: ebony_man2001 - Oh so now my argument is stupid...what argument?!? I merely pointed out the fact that there is a sector of black folks that protest against gay rights. You and your friend insinuated the rest. Like I said...reading is fundamental.
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gingerg
Comment: I know plenty of gay people and I have found them to be kind, pleasant and hospitable. And I treat them accordingly. Now, I am well aware of the biblical stance on this matter and firmly believe in the word of God.
However, I will not disrespect or mistreat anyone because of their sexual orientation.
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ebony_man2001
Comment: Finally she gets it! lol Angel you must be suffering from Alzheimer's. You posted that example about that protest to me that blacks WERE MORE homophobic. Now you're backing off of it. There's no definitive proof that blacks are more homophobic. That's all I was saying. I'm glad we agree.
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Angel
Comment: ebony man - Once again...I never said anything about anyone being HOMOPHOBIC. You said "black folks don't protest" and I pointed out a major protest in Atlanta against gay marriage..that's all. I never got into a debate about who is more homophobic at all.
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khufu
Comment: I would never publicly support the NAtion of Islam because Jews would go after yo azz...and I would never publicly denounce the Nation of Islam because the Fruit of Islam would go after yo azz...so it's taboo
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