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Name: Sammy

Comment: Whether Mr. Washington is racist, homophobic or anything else would not matter at all if he kept it to himself. He took this madness to his job, to the set of Grey's Anatomy. He is a egoed out trouble maker who has a reputation for being a hot head and an %*$!(@!. At a recent NAACP veteran's luncheon he took the podium and grandly discussed this situation at the set, when this wasn't the place for it. Said that the Muslims had offered to help him with the situation. Huh? Washington, keep your mouth shut and do your job. Actors like him are a dime a dozen. He's lost his mind. Mess with ABC's franchise, and he'll be out of there in five minutes and not even a memory in six.

Name: Sammy

Comment: And another thing: Washington is disposable. His character on the show, while compelling, is not vital to the success of the show. Write him out or kill his character, I say. Save the show. Pretty soon, people will not want to watch because of his presence. When you made headlines like his, it is hard to look past the actor and enjoy the character. Where would a guy like this get another job? He was doing B stuff before this gig. The world is filled with celebs who have all kinds of problems--they are racists, sexist, etc. Michael Richards is a perfect example. But if you keep your mouth shut and do your job, no one has to know these things. Bad enough that anyone thinks these terrible things; at least be smart enough to keep them to yourself.

Name: Sammy

Comment: It's not a color thing or a Gay thing. It's a stupidity thing. Washington is foolish.

Name: Winn30344

Comment: Sammy; okay..you've stated your views on Mr. Washington..now address the ignorance and acceptance by GLAAD of Charles Knipp...

Name: McNasty

Comment: This has been part of my point from the very beginning! The gay mafia overlooked the glaring figure that is this stand up freak but cleared a quick path to come after IW. Check yourself first!

Name: McNasty

Comment: Whew! Thanks Winn - I posted before I read and then I didn't see anything that actually referenced this article. Folk are going off on their own bent without paying attention to the big picture. Yeah IW has a big inconvenient mouth but he doesn't deserve to lose his job nor all this attention.

Name: ImJustAsking

Comment: Jasmyne even if you wouldn't have admitted that Isiah is a friend of yours, you would still sound like a dyck rider to me. If somebody on my job called me ANY NAME N!gger, fag, homo, b!tch, ho etc. etc. I would want that muthaf*cka fired. Sorry, you don't do that at work, or any place else for that matter. Respect is crucial and with Isiah acting like that, he created a hostile working environment for T.R. Knight. It seems as though Mr. WAshington is taking his grey's anatomy success a little too lightly, b/c this is a once in a lifetime thing, so he needs to STFU. If they write his azz off the show by saying that his hand is still f*cked up, then I would not be mad. Disrespect is never okay. I don't care whether the gay community is consistent in who they criticize. That doesn't change a damn thing.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: IJA u know u full of shyt right?lol You are the SAME person who said that when u were called a "nig*ga bytch" by some St. Joseph students, not only did it not bother you but it certainly didn't change your life cuz the only people that can hurt you are those actually close to you. So you're outraged that ISIAH was overheard referrin to one of his co-workers as a FAGGOT (although the offended party didn't hear it) but not outraged when the yt boys called u a nig*ga bytch? Do you think he should be fired? That's ummm..interesting. How exactly does IW "referring" to yt boy as a FAGGOT offend YOU?

Name: McNasty

Comment: If you put yourself in a position for someone to call you out of your name you get what you worked for. No one person is worth another's job and if you want respect you need to be respectful. I can't believe you posted that shat Imjus. Folks argue whether it be at work or in the street - it's called human nature. Lord help us for what's coming up now!!!

Name: McNasty

Comment: LMAO@Musb! some folk conveniently forget what they say on these boards.

Name: ImJustAsking

Comment: Musb< I didn't forget a dayum thing. Those white boys that drove past me did not work in my office. I didn't say they didn't disrespect me I said that it didn't offend me b/c they have no power and no influence in my life. And somebody callin me a name in my office doesn't offend me either, but they should be fired b/c they have hostile intentions and are being disrespectful which as far as I know is not acceptable in the work place. If you don't see the difference than I can't help you. I don't know what type of uncivilized environment you work in. Also, just b/c something doesn't offend me doesn't mean it isn't offensive. McNasty< I don't understand what you mean by putting yourself in a position to be disrespected. When this situation happened, T. R. knight wasn't even in the conversation. WAshington was arguing with Patrick Dempsey and made a comment about him not being a f@ggot like T.R. So what the f*ck are you talking about? I guess you and Musb think it's ok to say whatever you want to folks, I disagree and would NOT tolerate those types of exchanges between employees if I were a supervisor. I think part of the problem is that y'all don't sympathize with him b/c you're not in his position. The same thing goes for white folk, they don't sympathize with us b/c they are not in our position. How can you expect whites to have empathy when y'all are sitting up here acting like it's ok for someone to be called a slur in the workplace? I guess that's how y'all were raised.

Name: ImJustAsking

Comment: And since y'all are so intent on tryna catch me in some sh!t which will never happen btw, do you also remember me saying that I was afraid for my life that night? So clearly if somebody has the audacity to act like that at work, then you have a right to be fearful. I'm still shakin my head at the two of you tryna justify his actions.

Name: Tiedie

Comment: It's easy to come in here and sound off about the white gay mafia did this, and IW shouldn't have done that. What I want to know is, what is Jasmyne doing to make her feelings known to GLAAD? Posting an article on here doesn't do shyt but stir up and divide blk folks who have their own biased thoughts, or just want to raise hell about something. Is she sending letters to GLAAD and ABC? I mean, if you're going to call yourself an activist go be ACTIVE where it's needed.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: IJA...first of all calm down. It's obvious that we look at the same situation very differently. A co-worker telling me that another co-worker referred to me as an azzhole IMO is not a hostile working environment. I have heard MANY things that co-workers have said about me from azzhole to "his black azz" and I thought NONE of them warranted me accusing them of creating a hostile working environ nor them being fired from their jobs. Apparently you do. I'm not that sensitive and unless you work in Stepfordland, I would doubt that you work in an environment free of gossip. In fact, from your own accounts, you've worked in the political arena and that is an area which is certainly not the most civilized..specifically during campaign citizens. So do yourself a favor and let that one go. I dont think ne1 who've been debating this seriously has said that IW was RIGHT for calling the dude a FAGGOT. The argument is whether he should/n't be fired. You are on one side..I'm on the other. So b4 you interject your own foolishness into this...debate what I actually said...not what you think I meant cuz at no point did I insinuate that it's ok to say whatever you want to people regardless of the intent. That what your sensitive azz concluded.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: My momma told me that "if they didn't say to your face, then they ain't talk'n to you." I'm not outraged every time I hear someone referrin to blacks as a ngger bcuz I know I'm not one. I don't EXPECT yts to do nething more than what they feel comfortable doing. Fact is, they'll never be black so empathizing does nothing if it's not attached to some positive action. So, TR should be "fearful" bcz he heard someone was talking about him? Fk outta here! That's exactly what GLAAD and the rest of you would have us believe. As smart as you seem to be..you've clearly missed the boat on this one. No one has justified NETHING about his behavior but bcz you let your "emotions" in, you've concluded that. Read for comprehension...not solely to combat what was said. TIEDIE..you can say that for every article ever posted on EUR. Why does EUR talk about the diamond trade in Africa...instead of directing that energy to Africa. Why talk about the bush administration when they can take their concerns all the way to the yt house. Do you take your concerns to the appropriate person when talking about stuff on EUR...I doubt it. Why is EUR talking about Terri and Johnathan again if not to stir up and divide black folk. Come on..we really can go all day.

Name: ImJustAsking

Comment: Musb< We definitely disagree b/c to me, azzhole is not equivalent to fag or n!gger. Could be equivalent to b!tch or ho...but even so...in that situation, if nobody finds out about it, then everything is fine. But if someone in a position of authority hears someone else say that OR hears about them saying something like that, appropriate action should be taken. And depending on when/how/what words were uttered, sometimes firing is necessary/justified or it may just call for a warning. It may not feel hostile to you for your coworker to call you an azzhole but when that coworker becomes your supervisor it will be a different story b/c at that point their opinion of you matters. You can change your reputation as an azzhole but if someone thinks of you as a fag or n!gger you are probably screwed. And like I said, those words inspire hate so I maintain that the situation can be hostile depending on what the structure of the workplace is. BTW I am calm. I don't have to be riled up to cuss somebody. LOL Plus I didn't even cuss you, I just pointed out that you have a tendency to try to catch me slippin and you always fail, I'm waiting for you to give up.

Name: EdnaMae

Comment: Jasmyne, girl, do your thing! IW was wrong, and the GLAAD folks have made him, beg, plead and cry to keep his gig, since ABC will do what they say anyways. I don't know if its racial or not, and don't relly care, since he white gays claim to be color blind,and, I have nothing to do with them, but, only when it suits them, like the Shirley Q Liqour black face review. And, the sadest thing of all are these "black" posters who keep saying we don't find IW wrong for what he did, we do, just like we find black faced white gay men doing a mammy show wrong. One thing is for sure, GLAAD is for white gay men, and any of the black gays who think otherwise, need a head check, but, I'm sure they will slip and make that famous slur! They are laughing up a storm at the mammy black show, and won;t say a peep that it's wrong. And, it turns my stomach to see Patti Labelle saying the black face act is funny. I guess like RuPaul, she is so dependant on the white gays who love black faced sterotypes for her living, that she will say anything to appease them

Name: McNasty

Comment: ImJus did you read OaktownDiva's post yesterday? She had access to the real story and IW didn't call this boy gay he was talking to PD and referred to him as a faggot that's why none of this should have been repeated off that set! What the fukk I'm talking about is that stupid as.s statement you made 'If somebody on my job called me ANY NAME N!gger, fag, homo, b!tch, ho etc. etc. I would want that muthaf*cka fired. Sorry, you don't do that at work, or any place else for that matter.' People in any working environment are bound to bump heads no matter how professional they think they are and no matter how professional the environment. You seem to think you're above that sort of thing but chick you work for the fukkin' federal gubment where going postal is the norm. If you really believe that you're one pretentious black girl. The fact that you put yourself above such occurrences is delusional cause we all fall down. You might not want to admit that you have one or two co workers that given the opportune time they would willing rip your head off, but they are there. To say the man should lose his job when worse than this has happened to folk and then to think anyone but you expects empathy from white folks - you know not of what you speak and certainly you ain't livin' in the real world!

Name: ImJustAsking

Comment: Musb< I don't know why you have concluded that I'm so emotional. Maybe you think that b/c I'm a woman. I expressed my opinion with a few choice words that conveyed my disbelief at some of these opinions. It's really not that serious. Maybe you wouldn't be fearful but somebody else would be, that doesn't make either of your feelings less valid.

Name: McNasty

Comment: Oh and for the record, I ain't tryin' to catch you in shat - I've got my own shat to mind. But when you make such inane as.sholish pretentious statements, expect to be checked cause this ain't la la land.

Name: ImJustAsking

Comment: Mcnasty< I do not know oaktown diva personally, therefore I don't know what she has access too. Have you read some of the posts on this board? These people are RARELY who they say they are. Bumping heads is one thing, namecalling and belittling and using slurs in any capacity in a professional environment is something different. Don't get me wrong, people say all sorts of things in the workplace when they are "in" with one another and know that no one will report it, however, like I said, the right thing for an authority figure to do is enforce respectful standards. And there are plenty of times when people THINK they can say something and then end up getting reported and terminated for it. Call me pretentious but I am ALWAYS professional and I have been in some heated debates at work and have never succumbed to any urge to be disrespectful to anyone. I make too much money to participate in that foolishness. And I maintain that I would want them to be fired b/c yes, I do feel I am above a lot of things. It doesn't mean they WOULD be fired, but should they and would I want them to be? yes

Name: McNasty

Comment: 'I make too much money to participate in that foolishness.' Now that's pretentious and arrogant but it's the house you live in. It still doesn't insulate you to the extent that if someone got angry enough names fly and people keep their jobs. I hope your behind is as insulated cause it's a long way down.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: lol..IJA...woman make up your mind. Your comparing christians to athiests. First, if somebody called you ANY name including BYTCH/HO you would want them fired cuz disrespect is never ok. Now azzhole is the equivalent or BYTCH but not niggher. So outside of namecalling (def thinks that's grounds for termination) you think that other situations may only warrant a "warning." Make up your mind. We are not talking about what a supervisor should do. I think we all know what those responsibilities are. Azzhole doesn't inspire hate but FAGGOT does? You can change being an azzhole but if called a FAGGOT/N!GGER you're screwed? What, once a FAG always a FAG..or once a N!GGER always a N!GGER? Yet, you've agreed that just bcuz a yt person hurls the word "N!GGER" doesn't mean they're racist. But, if you call someone a FAGGOT, you're creating a hostile working environment. I'm not trying to "catch" you and nething but in this case you have not only slipped and fallen, you have suffered a massive concussion which has left you in a vegetative state like Terri Schiavo.

Name: McNasty

Comment: If money were truly the measure of a person I guess you'd be one helluva! It's not.

Name: McNasty

Comment: Mus b the fumes from all that money she makes.ROTFLMBAO!!!

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: And u really are talking about EEOC issues as it relates to supervisory responsibilities. How you've thought to interject that in this i'm not sure.

Name: ImJustAsking

Comment: Musb< I haven’t changed my position. The reason I say n!gger or f@ggot is worse than azzhole b/c being black and being gay are immutable and “if” you are racist or homophobic that will probably remain unchanged thereby coloring all of your opinions of said black person or said homosexual leaving them powerless to change your opinion. However, if someone thinks you are an azzhole that could be relative to a set of behaviors that you can change OR it can be related to one situation in which that person thinks you acted inappropriately. And yes, I did say that just b/c a white person says the word N!gger it doesn’t mean they are racist, but that doesn’t mean that there shouldn’t be a consequence for what they said. And if I’m in a position of authority I don’t know whether you said it b/c you are racist or just b/c you wanted to hurt someone’s feelings. I would err on the side of caution. McNasty< You make too many leaps with your judgments. I never said I defined myself by how much money I make, I am simply saying that I’m not going to risk my accomplishments arguing with somebody else. If IW felt that way he wouldn’t be in danger of being fired. Not to mention the fact that resorting to namecalling when you are frustrated is a little sophomoric for my tastes.

Name: ImJustAsking

Comment: Musb< how can you not see how I injected that? The whole convo was sparked by me saying that he should be fired (by a supervisor) for creating a hostile work environment (employee rights). Maybe you were thinking of something different but I'm sticking to the context of what I originally said.

Name: CoolAngie

Comment: I have a curious question that may or may not have kind of been answered in the article but I guess I need more specifics -- who in the world is the "gay mafia," and what separates them from the rest of the gay advocate groups? Who's the president? What is their particular agenda separate from the rest of the gay community? I found it very interesting to read that such an entity exists, and to see a gay person dogging them out.

Name: McNasty

Comment: Then you should have said just that your statement as it stands speaks volumes. Re read my posts I didn't call you any names and certainly not out of anger as I have none toward you. I said you were pretentious and arrogant and that was based on your I make lots of money statement. Fact is those statements are sophomoric - check your self ImJus.

Name: McNasty

Comment: CoolAngie the gay mafia are those in hollywierd who are gay but not identifiable, moneyed and influential that tend to speak for the majority and happen to all be white.

Name: DOne

Comment: This situation is similar to that of Michaels Richards in that everyone is so focus on the one word that they are overlooking everything else that happened. In the Richards case its not his use of the n word that makes me believe that he hates blks, its all the other stuff that he said. In this case, IW's use of "faggot" doesn't mean that he is homophobic, nor did he say anything else that indicates that he is, so GLAD should back off. However, what everyone seems to be over looking is the fact that he unprovokingly choked a co worker. Based on that incidence he should have been fired. I can't speak for anyone else, but regardless of what I might say out of anger, the minute I put my hands on a co-worker, I'm going to be escorted out the building, end of story. With that said, IW could have been fired for the choking incidence alone. If I was the sister who runs the show I probably would have said hey I'm giving you 2nd chance, fvck up again and you're out. Now, for the 2nd incidence at the Gold Globes, he still haven't proven that he's homophobic. Stupid, yes, anger issues, yes, homophobic, no. However, stupid and anger issues are enough especially after the first incidence. So if I was the sister, I would either fire him or say, look you going to have to sit out next season (without pay) just for making me look bad after I told your %*$ not to fvck up. Get some anger management and then we'll talk when its time to start filming again. Even if he does stay with the show he will likely end up as one of the lower paid cast members since he will have zero bargining power when its time for contract negotiations. Now, that what I would probably do, hey, I'm going to keep you on, but don't expect a raise anytime soon, and residuals don't even think about so save your money.

Name: CoolAngie

Comment: Thanks for the info, McNasty.

Name: Tiedie

Comment: Musb - My point is that Jasmyne writes a column on EUR,and she labels herself as an activist. I'm just curious if she's gone down to the GLAAD offices or sent them a letter. To my knowledgem there is a local office. Why make an argument to people who can't/won't do anything about the situation when there is direct access?

Name: FreakyQue2U

Comment: The Gay Mafia consists of these Five Families from New York, San Francisco, and Atlanta (the new hot bed of "brown-eye" pokers): The Bootyello Family (New York) The Lickinseedyckin Family (Atlanta) The Lesbiano Family (San Francisco) The Backdooranello Family (Atlanta) The Nutinyaeyello Family (New York)

Name: McNasty

Comment: ROTFLMBAO@FreakyQue! Can I have your permission to copy that?

Name: FreakyQue2U

Comment: McNasty> For you, permission granted!!

Name: Kofi

Comment: It appears that all this debate serves to distract us from the central issue. Isaiah Washington said some dumb shyt on the set of his show. The comment was hurtful and disrespectful. Not only does he say dumb shyt on the set but, again acts in a hurtful and disrespectful manner while giving an interview. If the situation were reversed and a white guy did this directed toward a black person, he surely would be fired. Jessie and AL would be all over his azz. Jimmy the Greek, Rush Limbaugh said dumb shyt and were subsequently fired. Yes, GLAAD is probably racist and hypocritical but, that does not make IW any less wrong. He should be fired!!! Jasmyne is using the "he did worse defense." If you get a call from the teacher saying your child was acting out in class. You kid comes home as says "yeah I was messing up but, Johnny was messing up even worse than me and the teacher did not punish him. You as a responsible parent would tap that azz because even though the teacher might have been negligent, that does not mitigate the fact your child was fuckking up in school. Same thing with the IA situation.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: Kofi...if the situation was reversed and a yt man was overheard calling a black co-worker a faggot...I doubt that this would even make the news. So I don't think your analogy is appropriate cuz FAGGOT..although hurtful is most certainly NOT racist. If you called me a son-of a b on my job I wouldn't think that's grounds for termination. Although SOB can be hurtful and disrespectful..it certainly doesn't reach the level of being called a n!gger. So again, it's NOT the same. My memory is a lil off but what was the term Dyck Cheney used to refer to one of his colleagues on the house floor? I don't recall him apologizing for nething.

Name: Kofi

Comment: > herbs. I think it is the hieght of hubris to presume to know how much our words may harm another individual. Most people in the gay community say the f-word is harmful. We just have to accept their word on that one. Others can't say "oh well this word hurts us more." What I meant by the situation being reversed is: If a white man jumped in IW's face and called him N__gger and then in response to an interviewers question stated " I didn't call IW a N_ _ gger." We as a black community would call for that persons head. Of course there would be opportunist attempting to exploit the situation and people with ulterior motives. It still does not take away from the fact that the act would be wrong. We would be doublely insulted if someone such as George Will wrote a column saying look at how black people disrespect each other. Look at the videos on BET. We would as black people be collectively hurt and call George Will a racist apologist. Who and what are we if we engage in the same behavior?

Name: StandingIntheGap

Comment: I don't believe that anyone is excusing the fact that Isaiah used extremely poor judgement and showed a lack of control when the question was posed at the Golden Globes OR when the actual altercation took place. (Mind you, we are easily influenced by the media, Isaiah and Patrick Dempsey had already commented on this at least twice or so publicly, BUT the media just wouldn't let it go...did you notice that? Leading up to the Golden Globes, I was still finding articles about it, after they went on Oprah and said it had been discussed and everyone was on the same page...this is because they prefer the dirt as opposed to the positive things going on!) I believe that we should all be held accountable for our actions and there is certainly a price to pay, however, when a person is TRYING to make ammends and go before the world to say that they obviously have deep-seeded issues that need to be brought to the forefront and dealt with and that they are sorry for an unacceptable act, I don't believe that we should be so unforgiving and self-righteous to say, "FIRE HIM". If you have never put your foot in your mouth, never said something that you KNOW you should not have said, never laughed at a private joke that if said publicly would have majorly affended anyone or any group of people, and never simply "messed up" and just needed another chance to get it right and continue to let God work on YOU, than by all means, that would make you perfect, never needing forgiveness, acceptance, and never having to apologize for anything at all. I don't believe that anyone who has posted here falls under that category, including myself, for if we did then forgiveness would NEVER be necessary. God calls us to that and to try to help when we can and not condemn. Yes, there is a price to pay, but do we vote to just erase a persons hard work and the ability to provide for his family because of a very poor choice of action? If we did, we would be constantly voting to snatch the lifetime careers of many public figures away. YEs, he should have to pay in some way for this, but not at the expense of his career. If this were a regular job, he would probably be put on probation and placed in some type of self-help course like the relationship he is working to build with the GLAAD foundation or something of that nature. The problem is that we put celebrities on a pedestal as if they're super human and they are not. They are normal people who excelled in a field that put them in the public eye and they have a responsibility to "dot their i's" and "cross their t's" at all times and when they don't we yell, CRUCIFY HIM! Why can't we watch with positive expectancy and see what good can come out of a negative situation?

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