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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: This will be a good look. I am also searching for my ancestors and my real ancestral name. Big ups to Louis Gates.
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DCGG
Comment: Uhm Okrah get over yourself...just because you're a billionare doesn't mean that anybody gives a fuvk about your mofo ancestry...
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: DCGG, all Blacks should want to know from whence they came and being that Oprah is a Black woman whose ancestors were enslaved like the rest of us, one would want to at least find out more about their family tree.
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MistaO
Comment: Mothership - you are too right! But unfortunately many Black people today could give a rats.. about their ancestry. Notice how we are about the only group of people on the earth, where the majority of it's members recoil from paying homage to it's ancestors? Is it any wonder why 'we' are still lost???
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khufu
Comment: DCGG embodies ALL that's wrong with Black folks....and why most are still enslaved and doomed
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DCGG
Comment: Mothership I agree; however I don't give a fuvk about Okrah's lineage, I'm still tryin to find mine...MistaO stop making huge stoopid azz generalizations about black folks, the only one lost is you...
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DCGG
Comment: KHUFU kiss my azz...
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McNasty
Comment: After listening to guy that traced Oprah's roots on TJMS speak on her ancestry it made me curious about mine. Judge Hatchett had her's done by a swab in from her mouth and sending it to one of these places. I
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McNasty
Comment: We are the way we are because we don't know where we come from and can only reach back to our foremothers and fathers and not to our ancestors. Pride in self on a deeper much more spiritual level can only come from our ancestors.
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khufu
Comment: DC lol
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: You never know, hell you could be related to Oprah! LOL!! I know I'm Blackfoot Indian on my dad's side (my grandmother) and Indian from the top of my family tree on my moms side, don't know what tribe yet and come from West Africa. My dad's side of the family is tall and long lifed and I spoke with an Ethiopian cabdriver this weekend and he said Togo are the tallest tribe in West Africa. I learned alot from that brother this weekend. He told me they stopped shipping slaves from West Africa in 1788.
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khufu
Comment: Indian related to Native peoples of the Americas is derogatory....."Nation" is the appropriate term...never heard of the Togo people as a community in Africa..."tribe" also is a derogatory term..Togo is a country
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khufu
Comment: The Official Site of the Blackfoot Nation....
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Oki Ni-kso-ko-wa: (Hello, greetings my relative):
We are members of the ancient line of Blackfoot people going back before time. We are the traditional believers in our ancient ways that were given to us by iits-tsi-pah-ta-pii-op - the Source of Life. We are not members of any other organization or political party. We do not espouse any "ism" and have pledged our lives to live by our old ways and beliefs. We are, however, alive in the modern age and we use the technology of the present era to educate relatives, our friends and ourselves worldwide. Welcome to our web site. We invite you to come back often. We have many interesting educational, and, spiritual gifts to offer you and your family. Please explore our web site.
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khufu
Comment: People: The Blackfoot Nation really consists of four distinct Blackfoot nations, who share a historical and cultural background but have separate leadership: the Siksika (which means Blackfoot), the Akainawa (also called Kainai or Bloods), the Pikanii (variously spelled Piikani, Pikani, Pikuni, Piegan, or Peigan), and the Blackfeet Nation. The first three nations are in Alberta, Canada, and the fourth is in Montana. ("Blackfeet," though the official name of this tribe, is actually a misnomer given to them by white authorities; the word is not plural in the Blackfoot language, and some Blackfoot people in Montana resist this label.) The Blackfoot were nomadic plains hunters, traditional enemies of the Shoshone and Nez Perce. There are about 14,000 Blackfoot today all told.
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khufu
Comment: Native Languages of the Americas:
Blackfoot (Siksika, Peigan, Piegan, Kainai, Blackfeet)
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Khufu, that's what the brother told me. It's either Tobo, Togo, something to that effect. Thanx for the info. on the Blackfoot Nation. My father's mother was a Blackfoot Indian, Wardmelaw Island, South Carolina (Charleston). His father (my grandfather) was a renowned root doctor.
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SheriBeri
Comment: I saw a little bit of it and the part the struck me was when she was talking about being a little girl and going to Milwaukee to live with this light-skinned, uppity woman who didn't like blacks; "one of those," she said. Since Oprah was a "dark, nappy-headed child," the woman didn't even want the poor girl to sleep in the house so she made her sleep on the porch instead. Oprah is still hurt over that because she wiped away some tears. I hope the bytch lived long enough to see what a success Oprah has become.
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YLawdY
Comment: While interested in my roots, I have no desire to watch an hour long special on OPRAH's roots. Why? The book is being released when? Talk about riding someone's coattails.
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MzTee
Comment: The initial special that aired on PBS was very good. My father and I are in the process of tracing our roots, so the resources provided in that special were great. I'm going to send off for the DNA kit. I agree with Mothership...I think all black folks should seek to learn more about their roots. We need to KNOW and be able to pass down our entire ancestral history to our children.
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khufu
Comment: Much respect....MOTHERSHIP..you come from sacred and royal family....live it...
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khufu
Comment: MOTHERSHIP are you from SC?
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khufu
Comment: mothership email me askancosmo@yahoo.com
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fairydust777
Comment: Good morning all. The term Indian is not necessarily derogatory as it is misleading. Indians are those who inhabit India (nothing derogatory). Columbus thought he was in India and called the people he encountered Indians. My ex is a Canadian Native American and on his reservation they refer to themselves as Indian or by their tribal name (yes they use the word tribe as does the Cherokee Nation and the Navajo) Micmaq. I believe most African Americans are mixed with Native American. I have stayed on a reservation and belong to the Cherokee Nation (western band and have descendants from the eastern band). I am very interested in watching this special and love the idea that Oprah embraces her African roots and is interested in her ancestry. This can be a lesson for us all. As for getting your DNA and genetics traced as Judge Hatchett did, you can go to National Geographic's site and purchase the kit for about $150.00, you swab your mouth and mail in the sample and after they have analyzed it they forward you the results.
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khufu
Comment: the use of "Indian" to descibe the folks of this land is derogatory as it was not and is not what they refer to themselves as...instead it was a term coined by a colonialist (explorer?) who was lost and thought he was in India..........all native peoples of this continent had THEIR OWN words to decribe themselves in THEIR OWN LANGUAGES and, interestingly enough, they all translated to: "The people" or "The People of the land"
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NYCsoul
Comment: Before my grandma transitioned in '03, she was the oral family historian. She even wrote some of the history down in terms of family members. My grandma, who's from the Caribbean btw, also said that her grandmother(who was born into slavery) told her that they were from two tribes, one named 'cramontee'(sp?). I can't remember the name of the other tribe but I have been trying to find some info as to the orgins or the correct name. BTW, this is on my mother's side of the family. I don't know much about my father except that he was originally from zimbawe(sp?)/south africa and his native tongue uses the 'clicking' sound for certain syllables. My mom told me that singer Miriam Makeba is from this tribe....In all, I totally agree that every black person should make it a goal to find out their ancestry. Knowing could also help explain certain medical conditions or physical charateristics.
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khufu
Comment: I am of Creek descent here in Georgia and had this conversation with Dennis Banks once
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khufu
Comment: for instance Taino, Arawak and Carib were native peoples living throughout Caribbean...but ole Chris the colonialist called them INDIANS
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khufu
Comment: MOTHERSHIP your grandfather was an herbalist, SHaman and healer....but hoodoo/roots is cool too LOl yt made us think that using herbs for medicinal and spiritual things was wrong...now it's a multi-billon dollar industry......
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DarkBerry
Comment: I have been researching my ancestry on and off for about the last 10 years. I think everyone should do it, you find out so many interesting things about yourself and your family. A lot of us have ancestors that had some part in the Civil Rights movememnt and fought in wars but may not know about it. I wish I had the resources that Oprah has to dig deeper and find out exactly which part of Africa that my folks came from. Don't knock Oprah because she is rich and famous. There has to be a public interest for these shows to be made all she has to do is say okay, you can show it or I will cooperate. Mr. Gates has been researching and publishing the African American experience in one form or another for many years. This is just one part of his body of work. Heck, I wish he would jump on my folks for me!
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khufu
Comment: NYC interesting...ever research ancient Zimbabwe? if not, I highly recommend
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McNasty
Comment: Through this connection Oprah found out that she is related to the Staples family. Mothership I have blackfoot on my maternal side - my granddad was a piece of Blackfoot, Choctaw on my grandmother's side, Cherokee on my father's side which we traced and found my great grandfather Tommy Keezee. I want to go past the immediate.
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McNasty
Comment: Oh and it's Togo but I did think that somewhere between the Ibo and the Watusi were the tallest. See you can learn something in this camp if you come corect. Khufu from whence do you hail?
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khufu
Comment: Located in the south central African nation of Zimbabwe are the ruins of monuments and cities built of stone. These ruins extend a radius of 100 to 200 miles, a diameter almost as great as the entire nation of France. Believed to have been built by southern Africans about 600-1,000 years ago, they are evidence of a thriving culture in the heart of Africa. Up until recent years, the ruins were believed by Western historians to be the remains of a "mysterious white race" in the heart of Africa. Great Zimbabwe has been ravaged by European treasure hunters and amateur archaeologists. Layer after layer of African artifacts were trashed in order to reach the bottom layer which, it was assumed, would prove that whites had exerted early influence in southern Africa. How many artifacts and important pieces of this ancient culture was lost is unknown. It is only in the last several of decades since Zimbabwe became independent in 1980 that archaeologists have begun to take a serious look at ruins of Great Zimbabwe and similar sites representing a dynamic social, economic and political culture in Southern Africa. Pictured above is the great walled enclosure of Great Zimbabwe.
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khufu
Comment: Scattered round Zimbabwe are hundreds of ancient stone ruins. No cement or mortar was used in their construction, so the granite bricks had to be carefully shaped and trimmed so as to fit together like a jigsaw puzzle. Some walls were ten metres high; many incorporated chevron, herringbone or chequered patterns. The largest complex (which may have been a temple) is known as ‘Great Zimbabwe’. A set of steps leading into it constitutes a true work of art: each course curves out of the flanking walls into the entrance, with the penetration of the curves increasing as the steps are ascended.
Many theories have been proposed for the origin of those buildings - including some rather unlikely and exotic ones. Most contemporary historians believe that they were constructed by ancestors of the Shona (who form the majority tribe in modern-day Zimbabwe). It is indeed likely that at least some of the original Zimbabwean inhabitants were absorbed by Shona-speaking Bantu, particularly by their Makaranga branch (which occupies the area around ‘Great Zimbabwe’).
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khufu
Comment: The likelihood of a Lemba connection
However, the Lemba of South Africa (around Messina in the extreme north) also claim responsibility for that old civilization. According to their traditions, their forefathers arrived in boats ‘from a distant country’ to extract Zimbabwe’s gold. (Lemba female ancestry was mostly of local African origin, however).
A few years ago, Tudor Parfitt and his colleagues at the University of London established a DNA match between the Lemba tribe and people in the Hadramaut region of the Yemen. Particularly surprising was the discovery that members of the most senior Lemba clan displayed the Cohen Modal Haplotype, which is a distinctive feature of Jewish priesthood. Furthermore, this genetic pattern is carried by the Y-chromosome, so it is passed through the male line.
This new evidence justifies reopening the question of who really did erect those prehistoric Zimbabwean structures. Several indicators support the Lemba story. They still bury their dead in an extended position, just like the ancient Zimbabweans did: this contrasts with the "crouched" posture adopted by other Bantu. Also, according to H.A. Junod, other tribes regard the Lemba as the originators and masters of the art of circumcision - which is significant because the stone phallic symbols which were found in Zimbabwean ruins, definitely represented circumcised organs.
Until quite recently, the Lemba had a propensity for building in stone - in Zimbabwean style, without cement. In addition, their mining skills and metalwork were far superior to those of surrounding tribes - using copper, which was available in their area. This aptitude could well have been inherited from the gold miners and smelters of ancient Zimbabwe. (But - not surprisingly - even as early as the 18th century, Lemba workmanship could not match the standards displayed by the buildings and gold ornaments found at ‘Great Zimbabwe’).
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khufu
Comment: Cotton was apparently woven and utilised in ancient Zimbabwe - judging by spindle whorls discovered in stone ruins, and the fact that cotton trees seem to have been planted nearby. Thus, it is relevant to note that Lemba men used to wear long cotton garments, unlike members of neighbouring Bantu tribes.
The Lemba language is similar to the one still spoken today in the Zimbabwean province surrounding the 'temple' and main fortress.
Apart from their Zimbabwean links, the Lemba differ in several ways from other Bantu. Many Lemba possess aquiline noses and narrow, non-negroid lips. Some of their words and clan-names seem to confirm a Semitic connection, e.g. Sadiki, Hasane, Hamisi, Haji, Bakeri, Sharifo and Saidi (which is their word for “master”). They still refuse to eat pork, rabbit, hare, carrion and scaleless fish, exactly as laid down in Leviticus chapter 11. When preparing meat for consumption, they always kill in the “kosher” manner by bleeding. The Lemba also have a distinctive New Moon ceremony.
There has been extensive debate as to when the ancient Zimbabwean culture must have flourished. According to descriptions by de Barros and other Portuguese explorers, the temples and forts were considered to be ‘extremely old’ even as early as the mid-16th century AD. In the 10th century, Masudi and Ibn Al Wardy wrote of gold being exported through the Arab trading post at Sofala - which lies on the coast just east of Great Zimbabwe. Earlier, the Alexandrian merchant Cosmas Indicopleustes (in his Topographia Christiana, 6th century AD) mentioned regular expeditions from Ethiopia to obtain gold ‘from a country where winter occurred during Northern Hemisphere summer’.
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khufu
Comment: NYC you come from greatness......
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khufu
Comment: MCnasty...I hail from the east if youre asking that Masonically
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khufu
Comment: I was told the Oconee band of Creek
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khufu
Comment: my last post for the day...gotta share this...be patient with me and my multi-posts......mesopatamia
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khufu
Comment: Mesopotamia refers to the region now occupied by modern Iraq, eastern Syria, southeastern Turkey, and Southwest Iran. The toponym comes from the Greek words µ?s?? "between" and p?taµ?? "river", referring to the basins of the Euphrates and the Tigris rivers and the area in between. Comparably, the Arabic term is ?? ??? ???????? Ma Bayn Nahrain "between two rivers". The geographical area watered by these two rivers is often referred to as the "Cradle of Civilization", since it was here that the first literate societies developed in the late 4th millennium BC. Mesopotamia was coined in the Hellenistic period without any definite boundaries, to refer to a broad geographical area
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khufu
Comment: you wann a talk roots? I got sumthin 4 yo azz
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khufu
Comment: Okay Ham (who you will of course admit was Black had a son named Cush (ethiopia and SUdan) and Cush had a son named Nimrod who built Babylon...guess where Babylon is? IRAQ!
so I guess Africans were in Iraq first
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khufu
Comment: okay oaky Ham had another son...Phut...guess where that is....Libya..okay okay guess dark africans were first there too
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khufu
Comment: okay okay okay Ham had another son....Mizraim (KMT or Egypt) well we knew they wuz Black but check it out....Mizraim had a son name Caslushim.........and guess who was his son? The Philistines...yeah that's right...as in Paletine.......
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khufu
Comment: oaky last one....Ham had another son...CANAAN whose lands encompassed Asshur (Syria, Lebanon and Palestine) remember the Canaanites had the land before their cousind the Phlistines took it and it became Palestine.....
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khufu
Comment: oh Heth was Canaan's son....the hittites came from Heth..they were first in Turkey.....and a major people in Syria
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Khufu, I was born in NYC, but my parents, my moms hails from Johns Island, Charleston, S.C. and my dad from Wadmelaw Island. My grandfather's sister was Phoebe Taylor she lived to be 112 and if you google her, one of the historians used her as a reference on their book on the sea islands and hoodoo/voodoo, roots. She was world renowned too. I am Gullah (Geechee) and I know I come from African Royalty.
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khufu
Comment: my point? They were all African...our roots run deep. they fooled us. There is no Middle East it was and is African and it belongs to Africans.......the Arabs are invaders..so as time winds down and we look to the "Middle East" we are looking to Africa and its redemption.....WAKE UP.....so I applaud that the Ancestors and the Creator are using Oprah to get us to look back......dont be afriad to open yo eyes and see......
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khufu
Comment: Cush (?????? "Dark," Standard Hebrew Kuš, Tiberian Hebrew Kûš) was the eldest son of Ham, brother of Canaan and the father of Nimrod, mentioned in the "Table of Nations" in the Book of Genesis (X. 6) and in I Chronicles (I: 8). It is usually considered to be the eponym of the people of Kush. Six Arabian tribes are also sons of Cush.
In Genesis, Cush was the father of the Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabteca. He is also the father of Nimrod.
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khufu
Comment: Mothership much respect....hope you are honoring your people...Much respect to your ancestors....
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khufu
Comment: Semitic (as in SHem) languages are a family of languages spoken by more than 300 million people across much of the Middle East, North Africa and East Africa. They constitute the northeastern subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic languages, and the only branch of this group spoken in Asia.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Darkberry, you know what? I just may ask Mr. Gates. I've been thinking about that. McNasty, you and me may be related. Remember what we spoke on this AM? Khufu you have mail.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Khufu, that's what my name means. MOTHERSHIP...I am the spiritual embodiment of the souls of my people (Ancestors). I feel them everyday, I talk to them everyday and I will not forsake them by runnin' around and marryin' crackas!!
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khufu
Comment: The most widely spoken Semitic language today is Arabic[1] (270 million total speakers), followed by Amharic (27 million total speakers), Hebrew (15 million total speakers), and Tigrinya (6.75 million total speakers). Semitic languages were among the earliest to attain a written form, with Akkadian writing beginning in the middle of the third millennium BC.
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khufu
Comment: Mothership LOL
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khufu
Comment: yiddish is not a semitic language...i am finished for the day...right on Oprah...Oprah sha be a roots woe-mahn!
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Khufu, wasn't the last bastion of African civilization the pale people destroyed was Catharis?
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khufu
Comment: MOthership...refer to Chancellor Williams' "Destruction of Black Civilization"
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khufu
Comment: one last thing...not all Africans were enslaved in the Americas during "slavery"
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khufu
Comment: A quilombo (from the Kimbundu word kilombo) is a Brazilian hinterland settlement founded by Quilombolas, or Maroons and, sometimes, a minority of marginalised Portuguese, Brazilian aboriginals, and/or other non-black, non-slave Brazilians. Some of these settlements were near Portuguese settlements and active both in defending against capitães do mato commissioned to recapture slaves and in facilitating the escape of even more slaves. For this reason, they were targets of the Dutch, then Portuguese colonial authorities and, later, of the Brazilian state and slaveowners. Some quilombos that were farther from Portuguese settlements and the later Brazilian cities were tolerated and still exist as towns today, with inhabitants speaking distinctly African-Portuguese Creole languages. In the Spanish-speaking countries of Latin America, such a settlement is called a palenque and its inhabitants are palenqueros who speak various Spanish-African-based creole languages.
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khufu
Comment: It is widely believed that the term quilombo establishes a link between Palmares and the culture of central Angola where the majority of slaves were forcibly brought to Brazil, because, during the time of the slave trafficking, natives in central Angola, called Imbangala, had created an institution called a kilombo that united various tribes of diverse lineage into a community designed for military resistance during that time of upheaval. However, the documentation on Palmares typically uses the term mocambo to describe the settlements, and quilombo was not used until the 1670s and then primarily in more southerly parts of Brazil.
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khufu
Comment: The most famous of the quilombos was Palmares, an independent, self-sustaining republic near Recife, established in about 1600. At its height, Palmares was massive and consisted of several settlements with a combined population of over 30,000 renegades, mostly blacks. Ganga Zumba and Zumbi are the two most well known warrior-leaders of Palmares which, after a history of conflict with, first, Dutch and then Portuguese colonial authorities, finally fell to a Portuguese artillery %*$ault in 1694.
In Brazil, both men are honored as heroes and symbols of black pride, freedom and democracy to this day. Zumbi's execution date (as his birthday is unknown), November 20, is acknowledged as the National Day of the Black Conscience and he has appeared in postage stamps, banknotes and coins.
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khufu
Comment: MAROONS OF THE BLUE MOUNTAINS
Newsday Historical Digest
February 25, 2001
Page 5
The Blue Mountains of Jamaica are spectacular. Almost twice as high as our own Cierro Aripo, they appear to have heaved themselves upwards at some distant and prehistoric moment when Atlas shrugged, easing his shoulder bone from the world's weight.
The Blue Mountains of Jamaica are really blue, sometimes bluer than the sky and sometimes when their bases are lost in the heat haze their summits appear enskyed, distant, remote, removed. It was to their vastness, to their hidden secret valleys and remote plateaus that men and women, in pursuit of freedom, fled to be marooned.
In the earliest days of Spanish settlement those Africans who preferred to take a chance of freedom in the mountains rather than bear the burden of slavery on the ranches and estates ran away into the wild parts, to the mountains like those that rise up from behind Port Antonio. The runaway slaves were called Maroons from the Spanish word 'cimmarron' meaning "wild" or "untamed." As the number of African slaves brought to Jamaica increased so too did the number of Maroons.
Some held the wild lands known as the 'Cockpit Country' or the 'Land of Look Behind,' with their chief base at Accompong. Another band was based on Nanny Town. These kept Port Antonio in a state f terror early in the 18th century. A third band held the eastern Blue Mountains under the leadership of men like Quaco. Experts in guerrilla warfare, they would win battle after battle against the British. The maroons would sweep down in the silence of the pre-dawn shifting in and out of the circling mist.
The plantation dogs, curiously silent at their approach, appearance sudden, their departure swift, taking with them supplies of food, women and young people. Legends about them grew that they had the ability to appear and disappear, to stand so still in the evergreen that a party of soldiers could pass them by sight unseen. They could ambush and wipe out columns sent against them.
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khufu
Comment: Caribs brought in from the Mosquito Coast of Central America to track them down were wiped out. Two British regiments were brought from England but the soldiers took to rum so enthusiastically that they never had a chance against the illusive maroons in the fortress of the Blue Mountains. An expedition under the command of Captain Stoddart fought their way into the mountains above Nanny town and succeeded in dragging two cannons into the heights overlooking the villages and blew them to pieces. Those who survived went farther into the mountains. They showed the British by their subsequent counter attacks that they had not been destroyed. The British war against the maroons was costly in terms of men and materials.
Peace came only when a treaty was made with them in 1739. The remarkable document recognised them as a free people and handed over to them 1, 500 acres of land. It further allowed them to administer their own laws. The maroons agreed to ally themselves with the government of Jamaica against any invader, such as the French from nearby Haiti or the Spaniards from Cuba as well as to hand over any runaway slaves.
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khufu
Comment: Professor Sir Phillip Sherlock remarks in his paper on the maroons, "The Maroon has been absorbed into Jamaica though anyone who knows West Africa would find signs of Africa clearer in the Maroon villages than anywhere else in the West Indies." The novelist Peter Abrahams found this when he went some years ago to Accompong to speak with the Colonel, as the leader of the Maroons from generation to generation over the centuries is described. He had recently returned from the Gold Coast and found the similarities in physical appearance and lifestyle striking. Impressed by the dignity of the colonel, he described him as "a tall, slender man, very dark with a lined but tranquil face..."
Sir Phillip Sherlock in his closing remarks catches well the spirit of the Blue mountains in saying:
"The Maroon is not representative of a national movement. He is tribal rather than national. He sometimes fights as an ally of the oppressor of Africans. But he is a symbol of man's love for freedom, a token and agent of active protest against slavery. If you were to go to the Maroon village at Moore Town in the Blue Mountains you would find that there was no difference between the Maroon and the other men who gather towards the evening in the rum shop to talk and take their tot of white rum, or Cowneck as it is sometimes called since only a cows throat can tolerate the hair raising stuff; or who still go pig hunting in the shadow of Stoddart's peak or Sugar Loaf or Candlefly, hacking their way through the thickets of sharp bladed bamboo grass or hog grass; or who sell leathery highly peppered jerk pork in the streets of Port Antonio, or tell tales at night of the giant wild hog that their fathers hunted, a great red boar that killed six dogs an a man. Of the giant boar: it is a backra duppy, a bad man duppy, says one. Or they speak of the common bushman's belief that if you are so unlucky as to have to camp near Nanny Town for the night, white birds will come and perch in tiers in the surrounding trees. You can let off all your shot in vain. It goes through them. They are all ghosts of the Nanny Town dead..."
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Khufu, thank you, baby boy! I have to check my libary, for "Destruction" if it's not there, then off I go to get another copy. I am quite familiar with the Maroons.
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Name:
duckapoo
Comment: Let's see, what do we already know about some of Oprah's family? 1. She had a mother who cared nothing about her. 2. Her father stood by silently while his relative repeatedly raped her. 3. Her step sister sold her out to the National Inquirer for $19,000.00. 4. Her brother died of aids. What a lovely bunch. From where I come from, your family consists of the ones who love you and care about you. For Oprah that would be Stedman, Gayle, Sophie and Solomon. I am not interested in anyone that PBS digs up.
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McNasty
Comment: Scared of you Duckapoo!
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McNasty
Comment: Indeed, Mothership!
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ladybyrd
Comment: DCGG > You are silly! You should be concern with your own history. I've tried the last (5) years to complete it but it's difficult. So I applaude her, Whoopi and anyone else who's able to complete their genieology.
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ladybyrd
Comment: duckapoo > Her father didn't stand by while she was repeately raped. You are a strange person.
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khufu
Comment: i was able to go back to 1800s on father's side.......and track down my paternal great grandfather's brother and sister's line....funny thing is though...a lot of folks dont want to be found...LOL or they are not real interested in trgeneaology..they will say "I always wondered about my people.." but they dont embrace the roots...slavery fooked us up man
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