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RMP7772000
Comment: Congrats to you girl! I saw Fantasia on Oprah yesterday announcing her lead role in Color Purple also. Keep up the great work to both my sista's!!!!!!!
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OSUN
Comment: I really WANTED to see this. I was hoping to make it up by the summer. However I am not really feeling these cast changes.
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khufu
Comment: OSU agreed...at this point the changes are less about art and more about marketing........sell those seats!
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Snicker
Comment: michelle sounds like on of the chipmunks when she sings.
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TMan
Comment: Snicker! Lol! I was just thinking the same thing, Michelle from Destiny's Child?! OK, granted, I have never her her sing in person, but by the sound of her vocals from her albums!??! Screeeeecccchhhh! lol!
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ChocolateBrownGal
Comment: Co-sign Khufu and OSUN....the cast changes seem too commercial. I'd rather see the complete package actor, TRAINED actor, singer in theatre and film. Glad I saw the play with the original cast on Broadway. It was phenomenal!
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ImJustAsking
Comment: I don't like this. I heard that Michelle was good in Aida (I think that was the play she was in) but I saw her on half and half and she was not a good actress whatsoever. Then I saw her sing on the Today show and the View and she couldn't keep pace with her own beat!! Also I can't see her having the sex appeal and worldliness that Shug had. I hope she proves everyone wrong, but of all the DC members, Kelly is the only actress as far as I can see. She has been good in every role I've seen her play. I LOVED her as Toni's assistant on Girlfriends.
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Bad_Kitty
Comment: Snicker, you said a mouth full!!! "We're the Chipmunks, Alvin, Simon, Theodore!"
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TMan
Comment: ChocolateBrownGal! Co-Sign! ;) ImJustAsking, excellent points. Michelle always looked so sad to me with DC. Never smiled. Some said it was cuz she was going against her "church principals" but Lawd knows we would see them all shakin their tailfeathers at every turn! LOL! I hope she can manage to smile more on Broadway! LOL! If she playin Shug she gonna have to keep on shakin that tailfeather too! Will she smile then? LOL!
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Gurlfrand
Comment: Best of success, Michelle. Give it your best!!
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khufu
Comment: chocolate..when Puffy came to broadway for RAISIN...the death knoll sounded
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ChocolateBrownGal
Comment: khufu...LOL!!! U CrazY!
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musbdherbs
Comment: As someone who's actually SEEN her onstage during the Aida run AND in concert..Michelle 'should' do just fine. Doesn't matter how we felt about her not "fitting in," this is a broadway performance and prior to the original cast members starring in C Purple, most people hadn't even heard of them. Since most haven't seen the Color Purple...there is no one really to compare both she and Fantasia too. I'll make sure to check the performance at the Cadillac when I'm there for the Taste in July.
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huey
Comment: is it just me or does anyone else feel that the powers that be, are dumbing these plays down by adding these singers, whom clearly lack any credible broadway acuman like lachanze (the original star of the color purple nyc) etc? i mean come on, the reason i went to see the color purple on broadway was to experience seeing professional well studied broadway actors. not for some big name singer i.e usher, michelle williams, fantashia etc. seems to me that the same thing that is taking place on the movie screens, with singers/rappers trying to act and hopeing they get lucky and find a mos def or an ice cube, which is few and far between, because half of them cant even read a script, much less act, is now carrying over to one of the last "thinking person's" opera. once again, here goes the dumbing down of a skilled craft.
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khufu
Comment: MUSB...doesnt matter if no one heard of them, they were trained Broadway (theatrical) performers and more than likely well known in the THEATRICAL CIRCLES......
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khufu
Comment: HUEY yep...welcom to one of the side effects of Tyler Perry's stage productions....the chittlin circuit is impacting Black broadway productions....it dont look too damn good
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khufu
Comment: for your info here are credits for the Color Purple cast.......http://www.colorpurple.com/color_purple_cas t.php
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khufu
Comment: most of the cast ARE FORMALLY TRAINED!!! Julliard, Eastman, SUNY...and have legit stage experience including OFF Broadway..........
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khufu
Comment: HUEY atribute that phenom also the the Black audience that will not sustain (film, theatre, dance, art, etc) legit art.....they spend their money on the least common denominator popular cultural watered down entertainment-based STUFF......and this is what happens.......
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khufu
Comment: and ultimately I attribute it to that point in history when "hip Hop" became so commercial that it was no longer necessary for one to be a true, trained artist but the mastery of the technology to create music and the "hook up became the way to create and makes tons of money.......it iwas at that point that the dues paying process of becoming an artist became a foreign concept....it was all about the "hook up"....right off the street and into the studio and on the screen...........chickens coming home to roost........
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khufu
Comment: and while im fooken ranting she sounds like a chip munk...and so does beyonce...and MAry J....they all sound like fooken chipmunks singing with helium in their mouths through a damn computer
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khufu
Comment: NOW! SHeet! Fook with me........chip monk azz.....
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Snicker
Comment: --->musb i don't know what michelle sounds like in person but on record and when i've heard her on award shows singing she sounded like she should be a member of that girl group on alvin & the chipmunks (i can't think of their name right now)
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musbdherbs
Comment: Khufu..do you know this for fact (that the cast were formally trained) or are you just azzuming that all of them were. But, you don't have to be "well-known" to be in a broadway production. You can have a great agent, mediocre talent and have done other "off-broadway" work. Local plays, traveling ensembles etc. can all "train" you for the stage. If you notice from the credits you posted..many of them have performed in 'local' productions. Broadway is just that..another stage. What's interesting from you is that you talk about the "proper" qualifications needed to be in a broadway production...namely broadway experience. Well, Michelle has broadway experience...is there something else she needs? BTW, considering that you've shared your 'knowledge' in the past, you do know that all actors attempt to make their bio look as 'stand-out' as possible. I spent two weeks at a Julliard workshop...but if I were to list it on a bio...it would probably read something like: Herbs went on to receive formal training at the world-famous Julliard School under the direction of Dr. R. J. Khufu.
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fairydust777
Comment: Khufu... you are TOO funny but I have to agree with everything you said. Michell was AWFUL in Aida. She can't sing and her gospel album was terrible. I am from New York and have done numerous plays and was shocked when Toni Braxton was picked to be Belle in Beauty and the Beast.. just terrible. When I heard that Usher was in Chicago and Puffy did Raisin in the Sun I was saddened that Broadway in order to appeal to the urban crowd put in untrained, untalented celebrities. What happened to the times when an artist developed a fan base by performing all over the country including dives. Now it's let's just throw some make-up and weave (have you seen any of these artists without make-up?) throw them in the studio behind a good beat and churn out an album.
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khufu
Comment: musb.http://www.colorpurple.com/color_purple_cast.php. .you lost the argument bro....
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khufu
Comment: FAIRY i too am from NY and trained theatre in NY during 70s and did some stuff then and in the 90s...so we share the legit ctieria to ofer our professional opinions...MUS just talking out his azz
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khufu
Comment: MUSB...actually I do teach method-based acting.....do you know of Stanislavski, Boleslavsky, Michael Chekhov and Lee STraberg?
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khufu
Comment: STasberg
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khufu
Comment: Im not correcting anymore...my typing is bad as Sheet
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khufu
Comment: MUS...proper qualifications...take clases...dance voice, acting, fencing, martial arts, yoga....and more classes...and then audition, audition, audition and then pay your dues.....and guess what? Denzel still takes classes....you always work on your instrument as a LEGIT ACTOR......well that was before Hip Hop became commercially succesful....oh yeah...even Tupac studied acting...we had a teacher in common" Ernie McClintock
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khufu
Comment: not to say Tupac was consummate actor...he wasnt....at least he or his momma had sense enough to put him in CLASSES
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ChocolateBrownGal
Comment: Fairy & Khufu...say it loud! I love NY theatre but not only am I frustrated with the celeb factor involved in these productions but the tix prices being out of reach for the common joe! Their celeb status makes it almost impossible to get good seats at reasonable prices. I'm getting tired of operating the spotlight and I'm not going to take it anymore! LOL!
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khufu
Comment: MUS and stage combat, dialects, voice diction, etc, etc...
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musbdherbs
Comment: Khufu..I'm not sure what the cast bios you posted were to show me. I acknowledged that they seem to have done a lot of local work. "Hey Ya'll Yo Chicken Is Ready" can be such a production. As far as you and fairy having "professional" opinions to speak from..I didn't realize that is what is needed to discuss what we have here in this forum. You don't have to have professional experience to know that all sorts of 'training'.. church, local, regional, national productions all prepare you (resume-wise) for "broadway." According to you, Fairy has "legit criteria" and he/she has said that Michelle can't sing and her album was awful. That's his/her opinion...just like the people who made Michelle's CD go platinum are of a different opinion. I could be wrong, but I don't believe you know the experience that Fantasia (prior to lifetime) nor Michelle (prior to Aida) have had w/acting. Being a method-based acting instructor, how exactly can you determine the qualifications of someone that you haven't personally witnessed performing? That is, sit them down in a room, give them a piece for either a cold or warm read and see what they can do. I mean I know that Bill Frist was able to determine that Terry Shciavo was "alive" by looking at a videotape but geez.
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khufu
Comment: No...when it comes to legit theatre, classical theatre and professional theatre.....church "training" is not legitimate...sorry.......nor are church productions...not saying that folks who have done those kinds of productions are talents, gifted or dont become successful.....folks who dont knoow seem to think that becoming a LEGIT ACTOR, SINGER, ETC is something you can just claim or fall into......wasnt always like that? Again, that did not become the pre-dominate mindset until the advent and commercial success of Hip HOp......prior to that, folks in the arts understood that you had to TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN AND STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY
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khufu
Comment: and MUSB LOL "local" in New york is global in reality...
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Bad_Kitty
Comment: huey: I agree with your post about not wanting to see these celebrity singers in Broadway productions. It does “dumb-down” the elegance, class and grace (IMO) of going to see a Broadway play. I went to see Wicked in NYC last October and I am very happy that the actors and actresses were and are “trained theatre” performers. It makes the experience all new (not knowing the face on the stage) Now, we get to hear about Fantasia SCREECHING on the Broadway stage soon. When is it going to end???
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musbdherbs
Comment: I'm convinced now that when "I" post something..people read ONLY what they want to see. I pointedly said that "all sorts" of 'training' including "church" can prepare you for broadway. If you want to have a discussion on the evolution of "theatre" from a historical perspective...we can have that conversation. But, we are discussing our views on what "legitimate" training is and how actor bios are purposely "fluffed." Well I take that back..that's what I've been discussing. I glanced over the bios but are ALL the castmembers from NY? I don't recall that. Factually, most people are unaware or could care less what "training" a person has..only that they do a good job. Case in point...Jennifer Hudson
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khufu
Comment: pointless...futile....the classical arts are doomed
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khufu
Comment: the dumbing down of America is in full effect...buy a camera and call yourself a filmmaker! write a script in wrong azz format and call yourself a screenwriter! sing outta key and call yourself a singer! sing outta key get yourself a record deal and youre really a singer! Ever take a vocal class? No---I dont have to I can sang!......
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khufu
Comment: you get my point
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Powerchic
Comment: Mos Def is a trained actor. Before he was acknowledged as a rapper he was a working actor in NY.
Khufu, I applaud you for sharing your knowledge, and a different point of view.
Don’t stop enlightening Me on this board. I welcome your intelligence, consciousness and passion for the arts.
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5thSymphony
Comment: OOOhhh LaToya London!!! Nettie is such a small role for that beautiful voice!! She should really SHINE during the 2nd Act's African Scene! Best of luck to her.
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