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nightshift
Comment: If he beat her down in a public place like that...he's done it many times before in the confines of their home. I think these holy-rollers are worse that the folks they profess to save, cause-All that glitters is not gold.
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bigheadbull2
Comment: Been knowing her a long time and I am not suprised at all. what a shame
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bigheadbull2
Comment: This dude has always been off the chain. They will find him, just follow the trail of collection plates.
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prettieyez
Comment: This is really sad. What a no good man to beat on his wife outside in a parking lot!
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ChocolateBrownGal
Comment: All the more reason for people to focus on God and not on man. I wish her peace.
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shakaz0117
Comment: Bishop Thomasina Weeks ought to be strung up and feathered!!
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ChocolateChip
Comment: I remembered how badly she wanted to get married. Bishop also wanted her to dress like a nightwalker to events as well. May the Lord give her comfort and peace. And may people focus on the Gospel of Christ alone.
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TGen
Comment: What an unfortunate incident! I think I should note also that this article's description of it was kinda cras, i.e. "got the crap beat out oh her." Wth? Could one be any more insensitive? Dang. Anywho, I've had limited exposure to Rev. Bynum, someone tried to turn me on to her "No More Sheets" (or whatever it's called) years ago, but I didn't check it out and the couple times I've seen her on TV I was underwhelmed. (Just being honest). That said, it's hard to deal with this kind of ish by itself, let alone having the public find out about it. Privacy is one of the casualties of the new media age. At any rate, I hope this lady is okay and her "estranged" (the word you should have used EUR writer, but I digress) husband is brought to justice.
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bigchassie
Comment: CHOCOLATECHIP>SAY WHAT??! he wanted her to dress like a nightwalker? what was up with this guy? what i want to know is, how long did Juanita know him before she married him? did she know he had a short fuse. but the real thing is, how was the relationship between them? was she the abuser? or was he so insecure he messed with her mentally. we just don't know about a marrige when it's behind closed doors.
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bigchassie
Comment: TGEN>but no matter what the situation is. no man or no woman should not abuse the other. if it gets to the point of there is no way of reconsiling then heyll, just walk away from each other peacefully. he should not have abused her. like J Anthony Brown said, that is the punks way out.
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TGen
Comment: Bigchassie, agreed. You're 100% correct. I don't recall stating otherwise in my initial post. *Shrug*
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bigchassie
Comment: TGEN>i agree with you on EUR that was a wrong use of words.
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McNasty
Comment: The punishment for a man beating a woman should be gangstyle. Give his as.s a beat down like he's being 'jumped in'. It's a cowardly disgusting act made worse by the fact that some women return to the scene of the crime time and time again. I wish her a speedy and complete recovery, a spiritual healing and strength to press the necessary charges. They were only married five years . . . .
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leeneepoo
Comment: Co-sign Chassie...but any man that hits a women is simply a coward. Dude would not go around hitting on another man the way the article "got crap beat out of her" implies. Just like someone stated he has done this before...now he was just that punkish to put it out in the street. If I only had 10 minutes with that blowpop in that parking lot...
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bigheadbull2
Comment: Truth be told she has always been on the hard side you know neck snappin, finger poppin, have known her a long time she was close to the Showells of Bibleway in B-more so we ran into each other all the time. When she married this dude I said then, they would be fighting over the make up, if you know what I mean. He is as soft as she is hard. I pray she gets on with her life as she is a good person and the word is in her for sure. Healing of every kind to you my sister. Bless you.
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bigchassie
Comment: MCNASTY/LEENEPOO>i know that's right yall. this reminds me of my sister who was abused by her first husband. stupid jerk. but she got him back..she did the Lizzie Borden thang on him. she took my father's razor blade (he was a barber) and slashe the mess out of him!
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bigchassie
Comment: BIGHEADBUL>what you mean broman was a sweetie too? aww dayum! and they can't find him. they gonna find him. do you think he might take his own life after he realizes what he did?
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khufu
Comment: right on Chocolategirl....focus on The Creator
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nycGYRL888
Comment: All I want to know is what did she say to him in that parking lot to make the man snap. He11 he was leaving...she ran behind him obviously to "get one last word in"! Now, I am not condoning any man hitting a woman...but, I would think she knows this man well enough to know when to step back from a confrontation. She must've thought that since they were in public, he wouldn't dare hit her. Hmmm...maybe those were her last words to him! I digress...
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michaelollieclayton
Comment: I was ABSOLUTELY shocked when I read BIGCHASSIE ask, "was she the abuser?" You've come a long way, baby!!! (Virginia Slims-style). I absolutely applaud your obvious fairness and balance. You clearly have a developed, sophisticated understanding of relationships. Why all this praise? Because I know how a man is usually perceived as the reason why things go bad in a relationship. That's the stereotype. But having been in a relationship where my economic power was significantly drowned out by my spouse's dollar power, I can say that the script does get flipped. Not being a weak man, I returned the fire (strategized, that is). And as I used to always ask my bulldog mother-in-law, "Can you say provoked?" That's a key word here: PROVOKED. As for the two holy-rollers, all I can say is this is just another indication how bad things are in our so-called "free," "civilized," nation. I do know one thing, though: It takes two to tango/tangle. But who zoomed who this time? She did follow him out into the parking lot. And when someone gets hot enough to follow you out into the parking lot, they're usually all up in your ear. Feel me? She didn't deserve to get beat down, but believe me, there are a lot of people out there who understand fully how MR. HAND gets turned into MR. FIST. It doesn't take much in a heated marriage for the palm of love to turn into the fist of hate, no matter how wrong it is.
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ChocolateChip
Comment: bigchassie> Yes! Last year I watched one of their relationships specials and he was encouraging her to wear mini-skirts and fishnet stockings in public. She was uncomfortable with it but that's what he wanted. Bishop was in the audience confirming that mess. Also, she was talking about how she comes from the wrong side of the tracks and his family is like the Cosby show. Seeing that special made me feel sorry for her. I hope this is a wake up call.
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NJBLKGUY
Comment: I saw her at church a few years back and each time I think of her, I think of her telling the audience of her "vision" that there are at least 70 people who can give her $1,000.00. And another 200 people who can give $100.00. Now, this new story. I bet she was cursing like a sailor but she went down.
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khufu
Comment: I hear the she is a nutcase
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bigchassie
Comment: is anyone having problems getting on today? should i give Boom-boom the beatdown too?
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khufu
Comment: LOL you know what's funny......according to the story, he walked away when they were arguiing inside BUT SHE FOLLOWED HIM OUTSIDE!! No, is that not aggressive provocation?
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bigchassie
Comment: CHOCOLATE>I meant to say "she messed with him mentaly" MICHEALCLAYTON> i just feel that in an abusive relationship it can go either way. either he is the abuser or she is. the main thing is the the number one rule for both: DON'T PUT YOUR HANDS ON EACHOTHER OR TO DO BODILY HARM TO EACHOTHER. if it gets to the point where you might come to blows, LEAVE! IMMEDIATELY.yeah, our anger takes over our thinking and thats when you cross the line and you have to face the concequenes. it is known that nine times out of ten in an abusive relationship it's the man's fault and he is the abuser but what if it's the woman's fault? she can be one too. she can be sweet and loving in the public eye but be a bytch from heyell behind closed door or outside too. this can cause a man to go off on her as well. so we just don't know.
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leeneepoo
Comment: BIG>>I'm having a heck of a time logging in. It takes a while for the homepage to come up and when it does the articles take even longer.
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ez3372
Comment: My grandmother always said the devil sits in the church, too. This is obsurd. It doesn't matter WHO was the abuser...neithe one of them should have been abusing each other. They are suppose to be people of the cloth and they are acting like savages. I pray that God shows them that he is not to be played with. You don't use the name of the Lord and then act this way. It's like straddling the fence.
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6footah
Comment: I am absolutely appalled. I cannot believe this....and you KNOW it wasn't the first time.
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indipindintthnkr
Comment: Khufu>>> what do you mean by, "aggressive provocation"? Surely you don't mean that the beat down Ms. Bynum was rightfully received because it was aggressively provoked....
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DonJuan
Comment: What a shame. However, it just re-affirms why I do not attend church. I have a strong faith in God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit but I have absolutely no faith in man. Believe me, 99% of the people that go to church are going straight to hell. Most of the pastors have no idea of what they are doing and very little knowledge of Gods word and how to use it. They are more concerened with putting on a good show than conveying and teaching God's Word and how to apply it in your life. NO THANKS!
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McNasty
Comment: This conversation has taken a turn for the ridiculous! Doesn't matter if she followed him to the ends of the earth sistah girl was trying to get her point across. He acted out in the most punkish way possible and since talking is not a form of aggression no matter what she did there is no justification for him swinging on her let alone delivering such a beat down that it would end up all over the news! Bigchassie I'm having difficulty too so if you could holla at boom boom an'nem I would appreciate it.
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KMJW
Comment: michaelollieclayton > I'm in total agreement with your initial post. No NOBODY (man/woman) deserves to be abuse. And the man isn't always the Lead Culprit when things go bad in relationships. I've seen some instances where women/wives are the abusers and the guy isn't always a "softie" but instead is just a guy that has been properly raised not to hit women. My firm belief is that if you're big enough to hit someone then you're big enough to get hit back. My firm belief is that if someone attacks you, then it is your duty, your obligation to do whatever it takes to make that person NEVER EVER in their right mind want to hit you again. michaelollieclayton > You also touched on another subject...sometimes it's not always a physical hit but a verbal hit that can send things spending. Early on in my marriage, I came to understand that consistently attacking my husband verbally was killing our marriage...I remember that one day when I went TOO FAR and I promise you I could see "KILL, KILL" in his eyes. From that day on, I've carefully judged what I say to husband during our moments of disagreement and we have such a better relationship...four years later. My God's peace rest upon Prophetess Bynum and Bishop Weeks.
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CaliRedbone
Comment: wow..... as it's been said.. NO ONE deserves to be hit... here's the article from AJC>>> Juanita Bynum, a preacher whose fiery and frank sermons about women's empowerment have won her a national following, was attacked by her husband in the parking lot of an Atlanta hotel early Wednesday morning, police said.
Bynum, whose ministry is based in Waycross, and her estranged husband, Thomas W. Weeks III, had met up at Renaissance Concourse Hotel near Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport to try to reconcile, Atlanta police said.
But while at the parking lot about 4 a.m., the two got into a physical fight until a bellman at the hotel pulled Bynum's husband off her, Officer Ronald Campbell said.
"She was bruised up and battered," Campbell said. "She had purple bruising around her neck and upper torso."
The husband, who is also a preacher, left the scene. No charges have been filed against him, according to police.
Police found out about the fray from a staff member at Piedmont Hospital, where Bynum was taken for a checkup. She could not be reached Wednesday night.
A popular Pentecostal evangelist, Bynum lives in Hempstead, N.Y., but her administrative offices are in Waycross. She is open about her past, freely talking about sex and being on welfare, hospitalized with a mental breakdown, divorced and spiritually broken.
Once a homemaker, a hairdresser and a flight attendant, Bynum's big break came when Bishop T.D. Jakes invited her to speak at one of his conferences several years ago. Her ministry took off a couple of years later after she gave her unrehearsed "No More Sheets" sermon on breaking free of sexual promiscuity at a singles event.
Since then, she has parlayed her tough-love evangelism into a one-woman industry, writing several best-selling books, recording inspirational CDs and preaching to millions through televised sermons.
She has been a regular at Megafest, Jakes' four-day festival of worship, music, education and praise that drew thousands every year it took place in Atlanta.
Her 2002 wedding to Weeks, who started the Global Destiny churches nationwide, was televised and, according to media reports, featured a gown with a bodice covered in crystals and a 7.76-carat diamond ring.
___boomquesha' stop it!!!!
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huey
Comment: michaelollieclayton-
are u the same person whom was married to someone in the hampton roads va area?
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Deb70
Comment: Between the slowness of this site and that friggin' survey man popping up, I am about to cuss. Anyway, I too am not into church anymore after having gone regularly for years. All our preacher did was talk about money. And on top of that, like others have said, the relationship needs to be with God, not man. I have no interest in religion anymore. Just God. Preachers are inspirational and their words do help, but that's where it ends for me. I don't look to them as these icons or demigods. That's where people get into trouble.
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Mas90
Comment: Co-sign w/ Chocolatebrowngirl
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NOTESINGER
Comment: Let's all pray that she recovers fully. DonJuan: Just curious - What is your justification for saying that 99% of churchgoers are going straight to hell?
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DoctorSmooth
Comment: If this turns out to be true, I'm assuming a whole bunch of people will end up leaving his church. I mean, what kind of credibility can you have as a Pastor when you beat your wife?
Then again, black folk, church folk in particular , tend to be loyal, sometimes TOO loyal when it comes to people in authority who mess up bad.
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MomaKnowz
Comment: I have to agree with Bigchassie. Bishop Weeks left the restaurant (according to AP reports)obviously they'd become heated inside. She *followed* him and I'm sure she didn't follow quietly knowing her personality. The innuendo that BP and EUR has added "beat the crap" and "near fatality" were incendiary statements that had no place in the FACTUAL report except to incite. Bottom line: There are more kinds of abuse than merely physical... There is verbal abuse and mental abuse. This kind of abuse hurts just as badly as the more readily known abuse of physical force. It eats away at the fabric of a person. I must admit that I've often heard her not be complimentary of her husband in public settings. In fact, I wondered how he put up with it? Then there were the signs: She made a big deal about the number of rings she received when they married... One for each hand. After a time she began showing up on TBN with no rings. Then she changed her name back from Juanita Bynum-Weeks to simply Bynum. All signs that there was trouble. Not to mention those things she's shared with the public. Funny, she always allowed how verbally negative she would be toward him and how she had to apologize and work on being softer. Another thing, you don't get all up in a man's face signifying and provoking (especially in an emotionally charged situation) and expect there to be no repercussions. She showed her scars and bruises on camera (Atlanta News). I wonder if we'll see his scars? And I would really like to know how her followers are taking the news that she's handed over her "WOF" ministries to her second in command in order to follow her Hollywood aspirations? Those thousands of women were at that meeting because of Juanita's ministry. Yet, she handed them off to Tanya like an old blouse she'd worn. It's very sad. But we must allow that there are many sides to this story. And btw, the police wanted to *speak* to Bishop Weeks. There was no warrant for his arrest nor charges filed as insinuated by the EUR "report". In fact, his lawyer showed up and spoke on camera to the reporter on the scene. So, he wasn't "on the run" as this article implies. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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bigchassie
Comment: DRSMOOTH>Maybe it's human nature?
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Stephanie
Comment: How humilating! God has exposed him and her for what they really are, frauds! How can they counsel people on marriage and family issues and fighting like animals...anyone with sense knows this isn't the first time he's laid hands on her and that wasn't for prayer! Can you imagine what the security guy must have thought when he stumbled upon them duking it out??? OMG...
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CaliRedbone
Comment: well, my personal opinion is that they strayed too far from God, like many people, I think that they had good intentions, but the money $$ can blind a person to the real ministry... I know their book 'teach me how to love you' gave me some great insight...but when they started having allll these seminars and tapes, etc.. I really think they started getting greedy and therefore it affected their personal relationship... again it just goes to show that we can not put any thing before God. (JMHO)
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queeniebunz
Comment: I have to stop people right here and say that no one should put their hands on anyone else - no matter what is said. Defending yourself - that's one thing but to resort to violence and to "beat a woman down" suggests that this wasn't self defense. Defending yourself means holding the person off so you can get away from him/her. Y'all are right - this makes him a total punk and no one should listen to a word he says about marriage/relationships. As for someone asking if he might take his life - well, abusive people are usually very selfish and they might take out their spouses but they value themselves way too much to end their own lives, especially churchy abusive people who consider it a sin.
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leeneepoo
Comment: Everyone knew that I did not want my daughter to marry her husband. Her husband's father is a preacher and the mother is first lady...I still don't know what first lady means in terms of church. Of course they needed to seek marriage counseling before they wed. Two weeks prior to her wedding my daughter called me and said that the first lady pulled a gun on the pastor! in their house...I said sweetie are you going to let him counsel you????...LOL LOL This was the second time that she pulled a gun on him. The preacher was out in the street telling other women of the church their marital business and other pillow talk. To top it off the first lady had received a telephone call from one of the members of the church and they met in a Walmart parking lot to talk. This lady started telling the first lady how the church does not want her there and that no one likes her and she needs to leave the church and her husband does not want her in the church anymore. The preacher even demoted the first lady of the church. I didn't know there was such a thing as demotion in the church. That thang was off the hook. Well he did perform the ceremony and he intentionally left out the part about "if anyone has reason..." well I had different reasons of course and I guess they knew that I was not going to hold my peace...... I did tell my daughter you know the fruit don't fall too far from the tree...I left it at that and started talking about something else. Just yesterday my daughter told me that her father and mother-in-law are in San Francisco...whatever...they are some of the biggest hypocrites and the phoniest people I have ever had the pleasure of meeting. They played a good role at the wedding like they were so in love and happy with no tension. It was the best dog and pony show that should have been televised on the USA network!
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DoctorSmooth
Comment: Bigchassie... yes it is human nature to forgive and be loyal.. to an extent, I guess. But from OJ to RKelly to Marion Barry to Mike Vick to a slew of flawed preachers, it just seems like sometimes we take loyalty to an extreme, and want to make excuses for bad behavior. Dont get me wrong, I believe forgivness, but I believe in accountability too.
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DonJuan
Comment: ====>NOTESINGER The justification is already explained in the post. Let me break it down even further for you. If you have ignorance in the pulpit / pastor and they have no knowledge of how to apply Gods Word they do nothing but convey foolishness and ignorance to the congregation. Keep in mind. It is YOUR JOB to get YOURSELF into the pearly gates not the pastors. No one can get you there but YOU. How prominent a pastor is is not indicative of whether they know the Word or not. I can't tell you the number of pastors I have encountered that cannot tell you what Daniels dream was about and how it corresponds to the book of Revelation. Yet, they all want to know why things are the way they are in the world. If you understand the 2 aforementioned books thoroughly, and it takes a lot of digging beneath the symbolism, you are clearly able to put things in there proper perspective. Basic understanding of in-depth concepts that most churces are unable to teach because they do not understand. Also, you have very few pastors that truly understand the sprirtual warfare that goes on each and every day of our lives and how to recognize the "enemy" and use God's Word as your armour. Instead we get really emotional shows in church with absolutely NO SUBSTANCE and no teaching and when you leave your still unable to use the greatest tool given to man, your FAITH and God's Word. Do your homework and look beyond the obvious in the Bible. Read the Hebrew scriptures. Go back and map out Daniels dream. Find out who the woman is on the beast and what each head represents, etc. etc. Do some serious digging because the pastor, most likely, doesn't know enough to do it form him or herself and therefor cannot convey the true knowledge of what is going on. We all know Christ died for our sins but the Word is so much more in-depth than that. Stop relying on the pastor to get you there. You gotta do that for yourself. Most people are not going to do there homework because, in a word, people are LAZY. Even about there own salvation. Whatever works for ya I suppose.
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dede0320
Comment: I think it is unfortunate that their private life is played out in public, I hold them both accountable, for this escalating to this point. I read on another site that , she was supposedly confronting him about his "close relations with other men in his congregation"How You doin?", so if they were both out in the open discussing this then they are both at fault...people do not realize how much marriage entails, you become as one, , now I do not know what they were attempting to discuss, but it should have never gotten out of hand like that..however, i have seen some postings refering to people as holy rollers and such, I'm not knocking you, you are entitled to your own opinions, but you have to understand, they are human, not super humans, they are not perfect either, we all have shortcomings, to say that 99% of most of the church folk are going to hell is a broad statement at best, its just like me saying all gangsters and all gay people are going to hell, along with murderers and rapists, not true!!God is a loving , and just and forgiving God, he knows we all have shortcomings, and he loves us just the same..You hate it when churchfolk judge you..then don't judge us either, not all of us are alike, just like all of those who don't sit in a church will be going to hell....Lets just hold Juanita and Bishop in prayer, whatever the case maybe, they really need it, this has to be a very stressful and embarrasing situtation for them and their family and church family...
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queeniebunz
Comment: >DonJuan - We are not all going to hell. Biblically speaking, if the people you speak of have declared Jesus their Savior, they/we aren't going to hell. I too have had experiences that could have turned me off church but a very wise person said to me simply, "God is bigger than your church," and she was right. A church is a building. A congregation is a group of human beings with failings and sinful natures. Ministers are humans with sinful natures who followed a calling to become foot soldiers for Christ. What does that mean? It means they pretty much screamed out to the enemy to attack them and that is what Satan does. What better way to keep people out of the church than to make their leaders look incompetent? That shouldn't deter anyone from not having a church home. It just means you decide if you can live with what is happening in your church. If you can't, you pray on it and let God lead you to a new church home. We need weekly guidance/sermons/lessons. We need constant fellowship to keep us strong in the faith. When you isolate yourself from that, the enemy steps in and tempts you and leads you astray. Clearly these folks are having problems but I wish people would stop using that as an excuse not to fellowship. There are excellent churches out there. You just have to find the one that suits you and can help you grow spiritually. You aren't going to grow but so much doing it all by yourself. You just aren't.
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Angel
Comment: This story sounds fishy. Who meets up at 4a.m. to try and reconcile at a restaurant? Something tells me that someone got "busted" at the hotel..... Regardless, unless this woman was trying to whoop his azz, I can't for the life of me see why some of you are saying that him beating and choking her was provoked! If someone verbally attacks you, it is NOT ok to hit them. He should have called her a b!tch, got in his car and left.
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dcdouglass01
Comment: There is a fakeness to today's organized churches. They seem to be more focused on raising funds for the next addition than saving/comforting souls. So the fact that this fakeness would be personified in this unfortunate incident is not a total surprise. Hopefully both can move forward (seperately) with their lives.
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arkansasgirl
Comment: Here's an article I just read about her Tuesday..... Ok, I just got thru reading "Birthing of a Prophet" in which her
spiritual mother Prophetess Veter Nichols described the trials and
tribulations that Juanita experienced during the 9 years she lived
with her and her husband the late Apostle William T. Nichols, in Port
Huron, MI.
Prophetess Nichols wrote about the strongholds of sexual sin and
mental illness that had Juanita bound before the world knew her as
Prophetess Bynum, the high powered, high strung preacher long before
she preached her powerful sermon "No More Sheets" at TD Jakes's
conference in 1998.
Juanita and her new husband were young preachers who had traveled from
her native Chicago to Port Huron to live with the Nicholses when she
was just 22. Two years after arriving in Port Huron, her husband left
her. Juanita suffered a nervous breakdown and was hospitalized for 2
weeks.
In 1985, she suffered from anorexia nervousa in which the doctors gave
her only 6 months to live. She attended a church service in Detroit in
which a church mother prayed over her and healed her from the eating
disorder.
Juanita had attempted suicide on at least 2 occasions as a result of
failed relationships. One time she tried to drown herself in a river.
Another time she went into Pastor and Prophetess Nichols's medicine
cabinet and swallowed a bottle of blood pressure pills, walked out of
the house and was nearly ran over by a semi truck before Pastor
Nichols pulled our out of the street and rushed to the hospital to
have her stomach pumped.
Prophetess Nichols recounted the numerous times Juanita would display
schizophrenic tendencies in which she'd rock back and forward or be
found wandering the streets incoherently wearing a long winter coat in
the summer time, and a a pair of jeans, t shirt and no shoes in the
dead of winter.
Prophetess Nichols said that she knew it was her and her late
husband's divine assignment to birth out Juanita in order for her to
become the instrument that God now uses to save today to change the
lives of millions. She said that it was a very long, difficult,
draining "pregnancy" in which she herself went thru a lot of mental
and physical labor to deliver her spirtual daughter from the womb. But
she and her husband knew that Juanita had a call on her life that
required their time and attention to help her to get to her destiny.
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arkansasgirl
Comment: When Juanita first came on the scene with No More Sheets, she was a
very different person. She has changed a lot over the years appearance
wise, however, her preaching style and message have remained the same.
She is one of the most successful women mainstream preachers. Her
ministry has now evolved into an empire. Not only has she released one
of the hottest selling gospel albums with "Piece of My Passion" her
books have been best sellers, she has a show on TBN and sells out
stadiums at her annual Women on the Frontline and teach me how to love
you conferences(that she hosts with her husband Bishop Thomas Weeks
III). Juanita is also a regular guest speaker at TD Jake's conferences
and travels around the country and abroad to minister to
congregations. In addition to her own ministry based out of Waycross,
Ga, she is also 1st lady at Global Destiny Church in Delaware where
her husband Bishop Weeks serves as senior pastor. There are a lot of
other women ministers many believe try to emulate her energetic style
of preaching such as Dr. Medina Pullings and Ty Adams(Juanita has been
a mentor to both of these women in the past). Juanita is a
multimillionairess who drives a bentley and live in a mansion. She has
amassed a huge fortune over the past 10 years since No More Sheets.
But her success did not come easy and did not come without criticism.
People accuse her of watering down her message now that she has money
and fame. She was also criticized for having an elaborate wedding in
which she spent $250k on her wedding ring and sold copies of the
ceremony on dvd/vcr tapes for $20.
I've read a lot of negative, disparaging things about Juanita on many
sites including Pulpit Pimps--Gary V and Big Daddy's online stomping
ground. They've accused her of being a false prophetess, a pimpstress
and a schyuster whose had cosmetic surgery and was involved in an
adulteress affair with her husband before they got married.
However, I do believe that Prophetess Bynum is truly an anointed woman
with a powerful life-changing global ministry. This is a woman who has
been through the fire and at the bottom of the pit, condemned, scorned
and rejected by others, living on welfare, poor and destitute with
roaches running out of her clothes. She has said on many occasions
that she faces a lot of harsh criticism and is often accused of
different things and lied on because she serves as a positive role
model for Black women in ministry. She said that she wanted to be an
example for other black women, to show and prove that if Joyce Myers
and Paula White and Marilyn Hickey can have world wide, million dollar
mega ministries, so can she and other black women. Too much is given,
much is required.
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Name:
Gurlfrand
Comment: >DonJuan - your posts makes you sound like a donjuan idiot! How would you know who is going to hell, unless you know the path?
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Name:
Timolyn
Comment: First of all let me start by saying THANK YOU to all who wished me a happy b-day the other day. It was an enjoyable and looking forward to my all the way live party this weekend. Secondly, I find this article appalling. I have seen her on TV a few times. I really do not know much about them, but I find that if a man has to beat a woman he is "A WEAK MAN". I do not care how angry a man gets he should never beat his woman. CHOCLATE made a statement re: nightwalker. I wonder if that is the same meaning as dressing slutty and if that is the case that is jacked up. My mother has this saying "some was called and some went". Those that went....went for the wrong reason. I've only read a few post, but I ditto all of the questions by BIGCHASSIE.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >DonJuan - And, if you feel so strongly about churches being a certain way, why don't you pray and see if you are called to lead. Clearly you have an idea in your head about how you think worship should be. Why not stop criticizing others and see if you are called to do it? One thing that came to mind when I read your posts was the old lawyer saying "a man who represents himself has a fool for a client" and I can apply it here. You should always seek counsel from someone else - why? Because you don't know everything and you can't learn just from reading a Bible. In order to evolve/progress in any area of your life, you need to look to others for counsel. You don't live in a vacuum.
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Name:
Victornator
Comment: Any police people out there? What if she grabbed him as he was trying to escape from her and would not let go? Does he have the right to get loose (by "face-masking" her, shoving her, prying her hands off him, etc.). Just asking.
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Name:
DoctorSmooth
Comment: Well, I thank God that I'm not one of those people who looks at man instead of God. It disturbs me when I hear people say that because the preacher failed them, they dont go to church anymore. My faith is in God and the word, not in man, so theres nothing any preacher can do that will change that.
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Name:
Stephanie
Comment: MomaKnows and Moma said it best. DonJuan, I totally agree with you but I enjoy my church but I still have my one on one with God and its very personal. First Lady?? Shouldn't she be the only lady??? Juanita is out for the money and God will not bless an unclean heart or spirit. I think she probably picked up those sheets again somewhere along the way. Most of her followers are scorned, single women that allow themselves to be preyed upon. I have a client right now who married this guy and from what I understand people tried to warn her but she insisted he was sent to her from the Lord...well, 3 months later after she refinances the house her parents left her free and clear of a mortgage, she bought him a Benz, her a BMW and a new 700K house and he wakes up one morning and decides he doesn't want to be married anymore...now the houses are in foreclosure, she has to give him the BMW and she's about to lose her mind!!! We just have to make better choices when it comes to our relationships. Listen when your mother or grandmother gives you those warning signs...
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Name:
YLawdY
Comment: Finally! Somebody needs to give Boomquesha a beat down! In an ideal world no one would hit anyone, but while I don't condone it, I can understand it. They are obviously having problems, met in a neutral place to discuss said problems, had a breakdown in communication and he WALKED AWAY. YLAWDY didn't she save that last word for another time? Yes, he is 100% wrong for hitting her, but sometimes it is o.k. to STFU. Women have got to stop thinking that we can push as much, as long and as loudly as we want to because we are women without repercussions. We expect men to have enough self control, discipline etc. not to knock a women the f*ck out when she goes to far, then we should have the same self control, discipline etc not to escalate situations just because we can with impunity. You wouldn't do that shyt to another female. I'm not speaking of chronically abusive relationships. I'm talking about that one time when you truly should have just STFU.
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Stephanie
Comment: Queen, much love for you and your views, but like MomaKnows said, we don't know what provoked him, not to make it right BUT what if he did in fact walk away and she came up and jumped on him first and he maybe shoved her off him and not necessarily beat her up like she wants everyone to think. I think if she was showing her bruises and what not to the media, it wasn't all that she's hyping it up to be. He may have just shoved her off him or out of his face and she probably took it to the extreme because one, she was pizzed and two he was ignorning her. Remember that movie, its a thin line between love and hate and how she was hitting herself with the bag of oranges???? I know how I get when my husband ignores me sometimes. I just want to strangle him but because I don't know what he'll do, I just stick to my yelling and cussing him out LOL.
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Name:
ELSBABY
Comment: LAWD, reading these posts, I know the situation of this story is bad, but I can't help from laughing at the texts posted. ANGEL, you made me spit out my pop laughing at you. Okay, okay..I hope that both of them can heal and move on. If you become that angry to want to hit someone or if you have to run after your man at 4 am to make him hear you out, it's time to roll.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Juanita told him to stop runnin' round with the fellas in the church and he retailiates by beatin' up on her in public. A nerve struck? What's up with these sista marryin' these sweet men. Hell, they even look mismatched!!
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Name:
YLawdY
Comment: 4:00 a.m. at a hotel?
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Name:
k4phillip
Comment: May God bless her and keep her through this. And know that she has a testimony, and God is going to use this to take her even higher in Him. I would advise her to pray for the man and get a divorce, from him ASAP!!!
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Name:
Angel
Comment: YLAWDY - Yeah 4a.m......Meeting to reconcile my azz! Somebody got caught with their drawers around their ankles. LOL
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Name:
Dovelyone
Comment: YLY: The way I read "4 a.m." is that maybe one of them was staying at the hotel or they met there prior to 4 a.m. Not that they SHOWED UP at 4 a.m.
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Name:
4mybabygirl
Comment: There are some really good churches out there. You just have to find the right ones. Instead of focusing on the big church or going to a church because their mama goes, we have to find God for ourselves. Of course, no one is perfect. But, if you proclaim to be a pastor and know the word of God. Then, you better do your best to live by it. That goes for Juanita and her husband. It is ashame to see religious leader carrying on this way. My parents are the say way. They are both pastors. I decided to leave there ministry. I knew that God had something more for me and my family. As the Bible states, if a man can not take care of his own home, how can he take of the church. A husband is suppose to love as wife as he does the church. What kind of love did her husband just show her? These men need to also understand that God kind use way the same way he can use a man. I think her husband probably had some jealousy and control issues. Everyone just continue to lift them up in prayer.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: if two people are in an argument and one e walks away...if the other pursues the one walking away, I would say that it might be legally justifiable to say that the person following is either the aggressor, provocateur or stalker....wouldn't you?
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Name:
4mybabygirl
Comment: Sorry about the typo. But, what I meant to say is God can use a women the same way he can use a man. Just as long as you submit to him, all things are possible!
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Name:
OSUN
Comment: I am not a "fan" of hers and dont know much about her, but I wish her well. Weeks could have escaped her clutches without choking, punching, and kicking her. She apparently has a troubled past and I pray that she is able to rebound from this. Violence against women whether domestic or not is not acceptable.
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Name:
CaliRedbone
Comment: Juanita Bynum, a preacher whose fiery and frank sermons about women's empowerment have won her a national following, told police that she intends to file charges against her estranged husband who allegedly attacked her in a parking lot early Wednesday.
A spokesman with the Atlanta Police Department said Thursday that officers were making plans to meet with Bynum to investigate the case.
Bynum could not be reached for comment Thursday. Authorities said the evangelist, who has a home in the metro Atlanta area, had been whisked away by family as they decide what to do next to protect the preacher from her estranged husband Thomas W. Weeks III.
"She was pretty upset about the incident," said Ron Campbell, spokesman for the Atlanta Police Department. "At this point, she is at an undisclosed location trying to stay away from him."
Campbell said the couple was trying to reconcile at a restaurant in the Renaissance Concourse Hotel when their meeting went sour.
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Name:
Calidee
Comment: I can't tell if he beat her or if they were fighting. To me there is a difference.
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Name:
CaliRedbone
Comment: As the couple headed toward parking lot about 4 a.m. Wednesday, they got into a physical fight.
"He began to choke her, he pushed her down and started kicking on her and stomping her," Campbell said. "The bellman of the hotel actually witnessed the incident and pulled Mr. Weeks off of her."
Campbell said she was "bruised up and battered," and had "purple bruising around her neck and upper torso."
The husband, who is also a preacher, left the scene.
Police found out about the fray from a staff member at Piedmont Hospital, where Bynum was taken for a checkup.
Bynum apparently left the hospital before police could take photos of her cuts and bruises. Her sister, Tina Culpepper, took some snapshots and later handed them over to police.
Campbell said he was uncertain whether this was a first-time incident of domestic violence between the couple. A felony charge would only be brought if Bynum had serious injuries and had to be hospitalized for an extended period of time, he said.
Meanwhile, the phone lines at Weeks' and Bynum's metro area church Global Destiny International Center of Duluth were temporarily disconnected. An executive minister of the church empire Global Destiny International said he had "no comment," about the incident or pending investigation
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Name:
4mybabygirl
Comment: knufu-As long as she didn't put her hands on him, I doubt it. When you are dealing with broken relationships, it can be a touchy subject.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: I say time out for living a lie. Juanita was desperate to get married and has been very open about her promiscuous past in No More Sheets, etc. She apparently conidered herself very fortunate to become the wife of a preacher from a good family. No way do I believe that this was a first time incident. It has finally been revealed.
Now, I've been known to say and do things that I shouldn't. However, under no circumstances will I take an azz whoopin. No siree.
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Name:
KimDenae
Comment: Queenie? Right on! Thank you for your post. It kills me when people make such generalized statments out of pure ignorance. But i got a question, why does everyone get all up in an uproar when churches ask for money? IMO, if you do what your are supposed to do (tithe) then most churches wouldn't have to ask for funds. I know too many people (even myself included) who don't tithe as they should. If everyone did their jobs then it wouldn't seem like the preachers/pastors were begging. You only look at it that way b/c you're guilty of not giving back. Don't be a money hoarder and a bench christian then complain. People kill me!!!
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Also, they done messed up in the wrong place. That Atlanta Journal Constitution is going to be all up in their business investigating and so forth.
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Name:
aware
Comment: This is all a shock. I have enjoyed listening to Juanita's messages, and received great revelation. Never bought into her "seed offerings" because I don't believe many of us in the church really give what we want to give, we give because we feel guilty.
I still support the church and am an active member. We have some issues, but that's why I give my two cents, to try and help as much as I can. For those of you tired of the church and people in general, I do understand. This isn't correct English, but people is crazy!!! LOLOLOL.
I hope they can recover from this, but I don't know how they will be able to fix this. When I heard about it last night, I knew it would be all over the web. Some many people look up to them. Or at least they did.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: I can't wait to hear with Bishop Eddie Long has to say about all of this since it happened in his neck of the woods.
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Name:
OSUN
Comment: to those who say this wasn't the first time he beat her I totally agree. It is like what Paul Mooney said....that kinda of beating is not a first time beating. He read that in the Ike Turner Book of Azz Kicking.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Aware, we need to keep our eyes on God. Too many folks worship the preacher/bishop/pastor and forget about God. We need to get our priorities straight.
The marriage seems to have started out fine, but became a charade at some point. If Juanita kept up appearances while preaching about women's empowerment and going through he11 herself, shame on her. It is like Barry White said, Practice What You Preach. Now, Barry was up to something devilish with that song, but that is beside the point right now. You know what I'm trying to say.
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Name:
whynotme
Comment: --->khufu aren't you the same person who comes on here faithfully acting all pro-black and stuff but you are now trying to justify a black man beating a black woman.....so is your pro-black stance only for black men?
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Fighting words doctrine. The First Amendment doctrine that holds that certain utterances are not constitutionally protected as free speech if they are inherently likely to provoke a violent response from the audience. N.A.A.C.P. v. Clairborne Hardware Co., Miss., 458 U.S. 886, 102 S.Ct. 3409, 73 L.Ed.2d 1215 (1982). Words which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace, having direct tendency to cause acts of violence by the persons to whom, individually, remark is addressed. The test is what persons of common intelligence would understand to be words likely to cause an average addressee to fight. City of Seattle v. Camby, 104 Wash.2d 49, 701 P.2d 499, 500.
The "freedom of speech" protected by the Constitution is not absolute at all times and under all circumstances and there are well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which does not raise any constitutional problem, including the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or "fighting words" which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568, 62 S.Ct. 766, 86 L.Ed. 1031.
SOURCE: Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition
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Name:
KeepItReal
Comment: I can't believe that some of you think it's ok that he put his FEET on her! If she attacked him, he could have held her down. It is NEVER ok for a man to STOMP a woman or to beat his wife EVER. I have argued with my husband and followed him when he has tried to walk away and vice versa, but never has it ended in fist being thrown. Hitting is something that we would never consider doing to each other. On another note, I'm sure it's not the first time he's beat on her, you don't start out beating your wife with stomps......
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Name:
khufu
Comment: verbal provocation in some States is illegal...woman always say that" As long as I dont put my hands on you.." However, a person can say they feared for their life or that they were verbally threatened by you.......
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Also a friend who worked at TBN telle me that she has some issues....see, yall believe everything yall see and hear through the Public Relations window..."everybody on TV aint what they seem....they become what you want them to so sell you dreams"
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Name:
queeniebunz
Comment: What came to mind as I read these posts is that 1) if she's as rich as y'all say, she's gonna be alright in terms of her career. She can fade out of the spotlight a bit and then come back and give her testimony and empower women to leave an abusive situation. She also has another book right here! As for him - well, he's ruined unless he wants to lead Beat My Wife Ministries... Not too many people gonna stay behind him even if he does publicly repent and all, when it came down to it he put his hands on his wife and a lot of people won't be able to get past that whether she provoked him or not.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: and ny no means am I defending the brother...all Im saying is...I know he wasnt 100 percent at fault...he shouldnt have touched her....however, he did walk away and she came after him according to the news story....trust me...that and her background BEFORE she was a inister will come into consideration
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Name:
reflection
Comment: Praying for healing and restoration in this situation.
The church is criticized alot and although there may be some churches were the preacher aren't truly following God and his teachings, there are many churchs were the preachers ARE anointed and preaching the word of God. The most important thing for anyone ,though, is to have a relationship with God for yourself so you will know him and not NEED anyone else to connect to God. Fellowship and guidance is wonderful but you should never put man in the place of God. One thing that is bizarre to me is when people judge all religion based on some people misrepresenting. People don't stop buying cars because of some shady car salesman or stop eating at restaurants because of a few mad servers but there is such a double standard when it comes to church.
As humans we all have issues, so none of us should really be judging anyone else, since God is the one who judges. If we spent as much time lifting each other up as we do tearing one another down, how much better our communities would be!
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Name:
khufu
Comment: QUEENIE that's what my friend who used to work with her says she is going to do! He feels that this is increase her marketability.....and that she will consciously use it for that! She's an opportunist......
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Name:
khufu
Comment: REFLECTION gotta submit to your words and say "Amen"
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Name:
OSUN
Comment: Khufu despite whatever issues she may have, it is not okay for him to savagely beat her. If she did verbally abuse him, it is not okay for him to savagely beat her. If he needed to use force I am sure that pushing her away or even knocking her down would suffice. I'd like to hear his defense for choking and stomping her. He was trying to kill her. I agree with Mothership about what possibly set him off.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: my issue is why are these folks deified in the first place?
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Name:
ImJustAsking
Comment: A woman mouthing off might make you slap her, but it doesn't make you choke, kick, and push someone down. That's an out of control rage. Lock this N!gga up in the name of Jesus. Thank you.
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: ANGEL>you know...you are right! that does sound fishystrange. who talks about reconciliation at 4AM?. you call me in the morning and we'll meet someplace and talk about reconciliation over breakfast. let me get some sleep. there is more to this situation than meets the eye. and somebody ain't talking.
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Name:
OSUN
Comment: The sad thing is that he probably will not do any time for this. I hope she doesn't decide to take the blame for this and not press charges. The next thing you know she will "reconcile" with him. That would be a huge mistake. She can certainly forgive him since that is what we are supposed to do, but she betnot get back with him. Because he will kick her azz again.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: OSUN I agree soul sistah...I agree. However, most yall (not you), automatically condemning the brother.....before he was wrong beating her down, she was wrong for coming after him....agreed?
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Name:
ImJustAsking
Comment: ooo shoot. Before I posted I didn't read AKG's post about this biatch spending 250k collected in the name of God on a wedding ring and selling her doomed azz wedding on dvd. now I want to beat her azz myself. I hope she prayed for the Africans that died due to those diamonds. *chokes Juanita again*
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Name:
OSUN
Comment: Queenie, you know how black folks are. I bet if he manages not to go to jail for this, he will still have church members that will follow him.
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Name:
Exmun
Comment: @Khufu, the fighting words doctrine has been EXtremely limited under the law and hasn't been used to jusify a non-physical provocation in fifty years of U.S. Supreme Court cases. It's a doctrine that doesn't really exist any more. Not attacking you, because I understand your point. Just trying to communicate an FYI that the fighting words doctrine is largely no more.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: check this out: In the State of Georgia, there is a new law that says if you feel threatened by a person you can justifiably shoot them. Now if she came after him and shot her instead, would the outcome be different?
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: certainly, there's nothing upstanding about a man who chokes, kicks AND stomps a woman even if the woman was verbally abusing him and/or had touched him (this is not as though they are in a movie called Mr. and Mrs. Smith [remember the fight scene]) . . . IMO, the church-no church discussion is interesting because "when two or more are gathered in My Name, I Am amongst you" has this value for me: Jesus Christ is actively with us no matter what we are doing and as God's servants we acknowledge our God through our behaviors, attitudes and speech . . . to those who have no designated church home, know that you minister and are ministered to in every interaction with another person or group of people and that the only thing you aren't doing is tithing [surely charitable acts and donations can be considered tithing] . . . Act 1:8: ...and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth (doesn't say witness in a building with a gathering or on the street, just that you will witness)
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: We give people these labels without any real consideration of whether or not they are deserving. Prophet/prophetess is thrown around too much. I have an aunt who has been a minister for over 20 years. Her husband openly cheats, has had numerous outside children during their 40 plus year marriage and treats her like dirt. Someone recently gave her a certificate indicating that she is a "prophetess." My sister is a licensed minister who is in a similar situation and spends 70% of her time gossipping with other church members and keeping up confusion.
God is not pleased.
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Name:
OSUN
Comment: khufu, I agree that everyone should always act with caution. Unfortunately people are not good at controlling their emotions. She should have left that so called man go on about his way. But by these accounts she is emotional and probably wanted to continue to talk. I am a more calculated individual.
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: khufu, I am sad that there was a physcial altercation and relieved that no one was shot
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Name:
tsktsk01
Comment: Everything I've read points to a new niche for Juanita and it's helping her build a case against him. I'm sorry but this sounds like a regular occurence, which I've heard it is... They fight, cuss and have to be separated when they travel with one another. It's a business arrangement gone sour and not a real marriage. I know she didn't think she was going to get some good sex out of ol' boy 'cause he's gay. She wasn't savagely beaten and the photos are on TMZ.com; how did they get them? A freakin' publicisit. How do I know? I'm a publicist and I know spin. So get ready to buy No More Fists and if he's smart and I don't think he is, he'll end up selling her for a nickel too. God cannot possibly be pleased. These folks make money and live like rock stars and now their dirty laundry is out there like -- ooops! Rock stars!
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Name:
clotel
Comment: How sad, another case of domestic abuse which is something that goes on daily in numerous households.
Anger issues are very real and start at an early age continues to escalate as adults. As women, do we ignore the earlier red flags in lieu of saying the word 'husband?'
Many women spend more time planning their wedding than they do the marriage....and from the many postings I have read, it appears the signs were very apparent.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: EXMUN..however, "feeling threatened" by one's aggressive actions and verbal %*$aults are still valid in self-defense defenses.......If I were his attorney, I would say he feared for his life and she threatened him
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Name:
diamondlady
Comment: Some people are so quick to judge the people of God forgetting that they are people too. The only reason why this is getting the attention it is getting is because of who they are. No, it is not right for a man to hit a woman or a woman to hit a man. This incident does not make God out to be a liar. He is still God and His Word is still true no matter what PEOPLE say or do. He can still use them for His glory. I pray that He present them with an opportunity to have an even larger and more public good ending to this whole drama. The devil will try to use this to convince people that ALL people who claim to be Christians are fake, that God is a liar or not real or that it does not make any sense to believe in or choose to live for God. But the devil is still a big fat liar and when it is all said and done - God will the one proven right. These people like all people need to be prayed for and not preyed on. But of course like God's people do - they will be judges more harshly because they have been chosed to speak the truth about what God says. When a Christian makes the mistake of being human before the world it becomes a scandal in the eyes of non-believers. Mom and Dad taught us the right things even if they didn't always do the right things. It was still their job to teach the right things. It is the same with preachers/Christians. They have to teach the right things even if they don't always do them because they are not perfect.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: TSK...exactly. I hear that she is a basket case...
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Name:
tsktsk01
Comment: "If I were his attorney, I would say he feared for his life and she threatened him"
I think that's exactly what he's doing. Because my sources say he can prove it.
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Name:
ImJustAsking
Comment: Osun< on AJC they are already defending him. apparently, the devil made him him beat her, and we need to pray that those spirits are released.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Question: what is verbal abuse? What is psychological abuse? what is physical abuse? Any takers?
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Name:
Stephanie
Comment: IJA, Cracking Up...Oh God!!! YOU GUYS ARE REALLY MISSING IT...NONE OF US KNOW HOW IT WENT DOWN. IF HE BEAT HER OR IF SHE DID A LYNN WHITFIELD...I'M GOING WITH THE LYNN WHITFIELD ACT...
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Name:
tsktsk01
Comment: :O
We give the devil entirely too much credit for the choices human beings make. The devil was getting a pedicure when this thing happened. He was chillin' because that mess didn't have nothing to do with God. And the devil only destroys the things of God.
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Name:
Exmun
Comment: I agree with Angel's skepticism re: time of the "incident" and the violence that appears to have taken place. I don't know of a single hotel restaurant that is open at 4 AM in the morning. Not one. Even the bars close at 2AM. Something doesn't sound right. I also disagree that this "beating" was not the first one. IF she caught him (or he caught her) doing something or someone that he should not have been doing that would totally explain an unusually violent outburst (one that had not occurred before). Lots of speculation because of the sketchy and one-sided details. But I'm not buying the story as EUR and others have presented it.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: so did the devil make her chase after him?
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Name:
Stephanie
Comment: I wonder if she's going to their church Sunday with all those bandages. People at their church probably know she's a piece of work and ain't thinking about her!
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Name:
khufu
Comment: TSK in between God and Devil there is the human being......
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Name:
ImJustAsking
Comment: tsk< the devil's ol pimpin azz prolly was getting a pedicure at the time. I don't know why religious folk can't blame the devil AND put someone in jail at the same time. Seems like an easy compromise to me.
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: SORRY YALL BUT I'M GONNA HAVE TO VENT OFF THE SUBJECT!! i'm sick and tired of people messing with me while i'm reading something good and why is it i make an experession on my face they make a stupid comment on it. these folks here on my job aggravtes the heyell out of me!!E#@$%$%#W....sorry. thank yall for letting me vent. *deep sigh*
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Name:
OSUN
Comment: iJa - I am not surprised. Black folks as a whole can be so disappointing at times. God requires us to forgive, but he doesn't require us to be idiots in the process. Boy add this to the list for reasons not to move to the ATL...3. blind faith congregants of black mega churches 2) confusing layout of the city--5,000 seperate Peachtree Street, and 1) abundance of gay and downlow men.
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gingerg
Comment: That's alright, Exum, the Atlanta Journal Constitution is going to lay it out in detail tomorrow. This mess does not sound right at all.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: tsk, the devil had enough sense to be sleeping when all of this was going on. I wish somebody would step to me talking about reconciliation at 4:00 in the morning.
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khufu
Comment: okay none...see yall sistahs who verbally %*$ault brothers....it's called verbal assualt...provocation......and it is actionable in a court of law......some yall think yall can say anything to a brother...all up in his face and that's okay........
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gingerg
Comment: Now, he can claim that she has a history of erratic, unstable behavior, but how you get from there to I had to choke and stomp her in the street is a stretch.
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tsktsk01
Comment: gingerg, i agree with you. the ajc is going to line it up for us nice and neatly. then the AP will wire it.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Living a lie and pretending that everything is ok is just too much damm work.
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khufu
Comment: yep watch what's going to come up and out of this......dont be surprised what you may hear about her.....everybody who says they are of God aint necessarily called or chosen by God......that's Biblical.....
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ImJustAsking
Comment: Osun< thanks for helping me way my options. I will give ATL a pass on being confusing b/c no where on God's earth is more confusing than DC. The megachurch thing makes me shiver though. AJC got a picture of Juanita preaching with a big old angel-costume-choir robe on at MEGAFEST lol. I wonder if Busta Rhymes was there. Sometimes I feel like megachurches try to create a mock community with all the events etc. that the secular world has so that they can feel social and modern but still holier than the rest of society. My coworker's women's group performed with those Beyonce trench coats on and took them off at the end of the performance. Pardon me? I don't want to sound like a prude but umm somethings simply belong to Caesar.
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tsktsk01
Comment: gingerg, 4 a.m. ain't even a decent booty call. LOL
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: I don't know the exact scripture, but there is one that says very clearly "Be not deceived. God is not mocked." And the old folks used to say
"God is not a play thing."
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Name:
tsktsk01
Comment: ROLF@I wonder if Busta Rhymes was there.
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Name:
ImJustAsking
Comment: *weigh
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: while I agree with you, diamondlady, it seems as though the surroundings and associated materialism swirling around our Christian leadership set the stage for a level of expections that are grossly unmet when negative events are revealed to the public: in a really big way, Christians are encouraged to see their leadership as set apart and above the rest of us . . . I have visited churches where portraits of the pastor are hung high, over the pulpit which sorta illustrates my point . . . then, there's the herd mentality, where individuals would rather give up their responsibility and right to talk to God and prefer intermediation . . . how often does one hear someone say "my pastor said . . . "
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gingerg
Comment: kufhu, I think anything goes except talking about a brother's mama. They will kill you for that. I feel like this about it, if we have to argue, cuss each other out, yell, get disrespectful and hateful, perhaps this isn't the perfect union after all.
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Name:
tsktsk01
Comment: Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
Galatians 6:7
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ImJustAsking
Comment: Ginger< I agree with you on the momma thing. When you argue with a man, do NOT use any words that start with M-O, b/c he will freak out and kill you. Don't care if she is a crackhead prostitute, he loves that woman. Any thing other than that, no excuse for violence. LMAO!!!!
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tsktsk01
Comment: Agree with ya'll, but will add: Don't talk about the mama or tell him that he walks like, talks like, acts like or dresses like his mama. Don't attack the manhood... And I'm sorry, but I can hear Juanita slinging hits left and right... "If you really was a man..." and "A real man..." and "If you were any kind of man..." and "You ain't no man..." TO "Punk, sissy..."
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Name:
cookyd
Comment: What punk he is.No matter what his title is he is a punk, everybody knows that if he was MAN he would not have beat her. I hope she will press charges against him.
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bigchassie
Comment: OSUN>CTFUPP!!! THE IKE TURNER BOOK OF AZZ KICKING! LOL! say, did you get my email sweetie???
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Name:
jctunes2
Comment: TSK-I've heard it said in the past that "there's the voice of the Lord, the voice of the enemy, and YOUR voice - you have to discern which one is talking to you at a given time".
And I've noticed that stories & post keep referring to his or her "followers". I thought the only one we should be following is God. JMHO
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Name:
oshun
Comment: exactly, >>ChocolateBrownGal. but i would take that sentiment further to say "all the more reason for people to focus on the inner-God, and not man"
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Name:
OSUN
Comment: Chassie I did. I wish you could describe it.
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Name:
tsktsk01
Comment: That kind of crime is a crime against the state and she can press them, but it's up to the prosecutor's office to pursue an indictment. So whether she files or not is unimportant, if the prosecutor says they have enough evidence against him, they will prosecute.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: youre mislead if you think that AMerica doesnt belong to Caesar as does most of the churches...
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Name:
khufu
Comment: were there witnesses?
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Name:
khufu
Comment: GINGER thing is: with many sitahs, yall can call a brother every thing under the sun but if he does it to you...then he is wrong!
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Name:
shulamite
Comment: Wow, what a tangled web we weave... 1. I agree, this is not the first time that he has doen this to her 2. I bet Bishop Jakes knew about the abuse long before this went down. 3. She will have to divorce him if she wants to keep her business demographic. All these beat down/broke down black women will NOT follow her if she goes back to that man after this.
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jctunes2
Comment: Oh boy, here we go...
UPDATED: 1:32 p.m. August 23, 2007
Evangelist Bynum will file charges against husband
By SAEED AHMED, D. AILEEN DODD
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 08/22/07
Popular Pentecostal evangelist Juanita Bynum told police Thursday that she intends to file charges against her estranged husband who allegedly attacked her in a parking lot early Wednesday.
A spokesman with the Atlanta Police Department said Thursday that officers were making plans to meet with Bynum to investigate the case.
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: who was the woman who burned down a house(?) when she found out her National Baptist Convention president husband was having an affair? what ever happened to her/him?
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Name:
shulamite
Comment: Are we black women so desperate for marriage at any cost that we'll marry a (sometimes openly) gay man?
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Southernbelle
Comment: I can understand defending yourself but that sounds like a straight up azz whipping. Juanita for a small fee I know some people here in New Orleans that could put a little voodoo on him. He'll wake up tomorrow with his nuts shriveled up like raisins.
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tsktsk01
Comment: Dear Shulamite, YES! We take the Bobby Brown 3:16 approach to relationships, "really don't care, really don't give a d**n, that's my prerogative..." We blame God too. We say, "God told me he's my husband."
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Name:
NOTESINGER
Comment: Hello, again, folks. Just able to come back in and join the "fun." To dede0320, QUEENIEBUNZ and GURLFRAND: Thanks for your posts to DonJuan in reference to his answer to my question. I have a wonderful pastor at my church, which is dutifully Bible-based, Christ-centered. When someone makes generalizations such as DonJuan's. I always question the reason.
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gingerg
Comment: And one more thing, don't reference mama if she is not even remotely the topic of today's argument. Brothers really get twisted then because in addition to being angry, they are now confused, too. Tricky combination.
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ImJustAsking
Comment: I don't like the fact that AJC says that they can't get him on a felony unless she is hurt in a certain manner and spends a certain amount of time in the hospital. That is such bullsh!t. I hate the law sometimes.
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Name:
Calypso
Comment: Um, wasn't Bishop Meeks married already when he and Juanita started "dating"? Nothing deserves her getting beat the way she did but at the same time, God don't like ugly and Karma ia a mutha*!
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tsktsk01
Comment: Bynum apparently left the hospital before police could take photos of her cuts and bruises. Her sister, Tina Culpepper, took some snapshots and later handed them over to police.
This is suspect...
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gingerg
Comment: I agree, tsk. Folks need to tell the truth and admit that they were desperate to get married and took advantage of the first opportunity.
People always bringing God up in stuff that he wouldn't be bothered with. God is not going to send you a man who will choke and stomp you in the street or anywhere else. People get themselves in a fix and then use their claim that God sent the person as an excuse for staying and being a dormat.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: shula, how did the man go from being an azz whooper to gay?
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Name:
ChocolateBrownGal
Comment: Neither Juanita or Bishop WEAKs should be held to any higher standards b/c they are of the cloth. Men beating women, women beating men, adults beating children EVERYDAY in OUR community and all of them should know better, ordained or not! And many of us see it happening right next door and do or say nothing. SO again I say, it's better to put your faith in God than in man...cuz " ..just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me."
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: That's right. Do not call me out of my name. Brothers know sisters have a way with words when they hook up with us. A little civility goes a long way.
Talk right to me and perhaps I won't reason go clown. We can get along peaceably like loving folks are supposed to.
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Name:
Stephanie
Comment: Harriet, that was the Henry Lyons and his wife, I forget her name but she passed away a few years ago and I believe he's still in federal custody.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: The bellman is the witness who pulled him off of her. By the time he tells two of his friends and they tell theirs what happened, they should have at least 20 expert witnesses for the trial.
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Name:
Stephanie
Comment: LOL @ Gingerg!
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Shula, interesting that you say that because some of these same beat down/broke women will stay with their man under similar or worse situations.
Why can't they forgive Juanita if she stays put, too?
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Name:
ImJustAsking
Comment: Gingerg< b/c people make exceptions for THEMSELVES. Look at all the people on this board who are always criticizing and judging, you think they don't have sh!t going on at home? Of course they do, but in their minds there is an excuse for their sh!t whereas other people should know better. It's a common mentality.
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tsktsk01
Comment: No, Lyons is out again. Loose... LOL And gingerg, you are wrong, but so right. ROFL I love what you said about the witnesses. Sadly, it's true and if her case is killed, then they can blame the bellman.
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tsktsk01
Comment: In fact, Juanita and Thomas are probably getting massages together, trying to figure out who to move on and away from this mess as we speak... Or they are planning their next seminar, "Show me how to love you after you whip my tail"
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CHOSENBYGOD
Comment: WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT, I WAS FLOORED. SHE IS AN AWESOME PROPHETESS AND IT IS SAD TO SEE THAT PEOPLE TAKE THESE STORIES AND RUN WITH IT. I AGREE THAT THE WAY IT WAS TOLD WAS VERY IGNORANT IN WRITTING. NEVERTHELESS SHE AS WELL AS HER HUSBAND ARE STILL GOD'S CHOSEN. NO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT PARKING LOT, BUT FOR THOSE OF US WHO WATCH AND CAN ATTEST TO HOW EFFECTIVE HER MINISTRY HAS BEEN, I PRAY THAT EVEN THRU THIS GOD GETS THE GLORY. WE JUDGE WHEN WE DON'T KNOW THE FACTS. I 2 HAVE BEEN A VICTIM OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, BUT I KNEW TO GET OUT WHILE THE GETTIN WAS GOOD. PLEASE MY SISTERS AND MY BROTHERS IN CHRIST, LET US KEEP THEM BOTH IN OUR PRAYERS.
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Name:
zzzboy
Comment: Their is always two sides to the story..I don't condone hitting in any measure but for some people on here just to blame the man totally..a relationship is two people..women know how too mentally abuse a man verbally and men know how to physical .but one is not worst than the other..Women have to learn verbal abusive is very just as harmful if not if not more than physical abuse..so their is not one is better than the other but both have to be address because this type of voilence will not end if the man is the sole person to blame..both stand up to their dirty deeds and repent!!
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ChocolateBrownGal
Comment: Khufu...Hiatus my azz! LOL I have no interest in verbally azzaulting my brothers or sisters for the same reason I don't flip the bird to the driver who cuts me off, or cuss on co-workers or sales clerk. You NEVER know what might set somebody off and go P-O-S-T-A-L! So if me and my SigO are arguing, I'm sticking to the facts and my opinions. I have no desire to be nasty and degrading. It ain't worth it. I also know my own temper. LOL
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CHOSENBYGOD
Comment: WE ARE LIVING IN SUCH BAD TIMES AND GOD'S POEPLE ARE BEING DECIEVED. I PRAY THAT THE BOTH OF THEM FIND SOME TYPE OF PEACE IN THEIR STORM.
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Name:
shulamite
Comment: gingerg --> from the idea that she was confronting him about the male friendships when this event happened. Also, her whole (and Jake's) message of empowerment is about walking away from bad relationships. Her listeners may not walk away from theirs - but they definitely expect her to live up to her own mantra re self respect. I just don't see her going back to him and keeping her demographic, too.
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shulamite
Comment: I think Rev. Lyons' wife had the arson charges dropped against her...
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Name:
SweetieDarlin
Comment: In a lot of cases women who are victims of domestic violence are embarrassed it is happening or feel it is their fault. From what people 'in the know' have been reporting this sister has the exact personality that someone could prey on by beating her and saying it was her own fault because of her 'mouth'. Even publically denouncing her past behaviors didn't mean she really believed that she had been delivered and hence may have again, felt she deserved it until this last incident when it went public---of course this is simply speculation, I certainly don't know any of this for sure. At any rate regardless of the reason a man should not beat you, the man should walk away in fact if it gets like that, leave the relationship period, you do not let anyone make you sink to levels you do not go.
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ImJustAsking
Comment: shulamite< All Bynum has to do is say *clears throat* All those yearsss I ministered to you, *points at audience* and you, and you...I had a secret. A secret that a spirit. oh lawd!! *jumps up and down* an evilllll spirit! Had control of my marriage. I was consumed. *scowls at imaginry spirit* KEPT! HELD BACK by this spirit. *audience mumbles "wasn't nothin but the devil, sho' nuff"* The confrontation in the parking lot...that night, I'm hear to tell you church, that night the Lawwwwwwd allowed the spirit to be released and for me to see my true self. *wipes sweat* Can I get an amen? And let me tell you, if I can be saved, healed, redeemed...SO CAN YOU. *mass applause* Oh wait, she already did that? That's how her career got started? Interesting. Well, maybe it's time for Act II.
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Name:
KeepItReal
Comment: >>>>ImJustAsking. You are crazy....LOL. Girl take your show on the road and get paid...LOL.
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Name:
aware
Comment: People "shouldn't" look up to men and women of God and expect them to be perfect. But the fact is, people do.
Those of us that understand that it's God who is perfect, and the Word of God is the only thing which is unmovable will be able to move on after something like this. But what those who look up to the Bishop and Prophetess? My God, help us today.
A large amount of the church community has been forwarding emails, sending messages, and responding to bulletin boards. And she is going to press charges, so this story isn't over yet. I wonder how Pastor's and ministers will be responding.
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Name:
AquaBoogie
Comment: >ImJustAsking: You get the award for Quote of the Day ("Lock this N!gga up in the name of Jesus. Thank you."). LOL--classic.
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Name:
moodring100
Comment: He needs to turn his %*$ in!I can't believe some of yall, are saying that if a woman learns to keep her mouth shut,she will not get kicked around.Keep it Real, you are so right!!!!!
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SweetieDarlin
Comment: DonJuan> I understand you point about doing your own research and not depending on the pastor for your salvation, however I feel you could do exactly what you said regarding research and find a Church home you are satisfied with. It is a point of fellowship in the Word. I know a lot of people that feel the same way so unfortunately your take on 'Religion" in not usual, people are so soured by their experience in Church that they are most reluctant to go elsewhere because they feel there is the possiblity of more of the same mess. I imagine the point would be why would that type of foolishness would exist at Church, however as a person pointed out, if you are physically sick you go to the hospital, if your soul is sick, you go to Church meaning that the people in the Church are a work in progress, consequently there are people who don't know how to seek salvation, simply that they want it. Again, the good thing is that you are reading the Word, which is always important and hopefully you will find what you seek and find a good Church home that meets your criteria.
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Name:
whynotme
Comment: --->zzzboy you're right verbal abuse is bad but tell me the last time somebody died from you standing over them screaming at them and then tell me how many times someone physically beat someone to death.....i bet you will never see someone scream someone to death, someone may talk a hole in your head and you might feel like they are going to talk you death but it will never happen LOL!
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Name:
PBF_19
Comment: He is gay and Juanita probably was about to out him. I do hope she has a full recovery.
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Name:
ImJustAsking
Comment: keepitreal< haha! Honestly, everytime I see people like Bynum, Jakes etc. I have an urge to start my own congregation cause I KNOW I could get paid! I am a gifted speaker (like many people), and all these mega church pastors do is play the role of motivational speaker with a little bit of Godsalt sprinkled in. But I don't have the heart to take people's money like that.
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Name:
MSBB
Comment: FIRST OF ALL WE ARE LIVING IN THE LAST DAYS AND THE DEVIL IS ON A MISSION. HE IS USING LEADER. TO DESTRACT THE MINDS OF THE PEOPLE WE NEED TO PRAY FOR HER AND HER HUSBAND.
HE IS SOMEBODYS LEADER AND THIS HAS AFFECTED HIS PEOPLE AS WELL. NO HE HAD NO BUSINESS PUTTIN HIS HANDS ON HER BUT FOR EVERY CAUSE THERES AN AFFECT AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SITTUATION REALLY WAS. WE A PERSON IS MADE SOMETIMES THEY REACT OUT OF THEMSELVES. SO EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE PRAYFUL FOR THEM,AND NOT JUST WANTING TO THROW THE MAN IN JAIL.
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SweetieDarlin
Comment: IJA> I see you! A lady of many talents hmmm? First mentoring the women challenged by the ways of business etiguette, white folks and personal grooming, now you are writing sermons--- okay don't be mad you didn't get paid when she does that exact sermon in front of a congregation! LOL!
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Name:
SweetieDarlin
Comment: MSBB> We have already surmised that he was likely possessed by the Devil, but I'm sure, prayer, a little Holy Water AND JAIL will cure him just fine.
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Name:
whynotme
Comment: --->SweetieDarlin if you read a lot of these posts you will see that a lot of people feel that a woman deserves to be hit for one reason or another so apparently it's a very common thought process for men and women.....thank God my mother didn't teach me that women deserve to be hit but my father did say that sometimes a woman needs a little whoopin to keep her in line but apparently he married the wrong woman because my mother wasn't having it.
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Name:
ImJustAsking
Comment: MSBB< I understand we are the last days (of what, I don't know) but I'm not sure that is any reason to yell. Sweetie< I wouldn't put it past her to plagiarize me. *scowling* She could be on EurWeb right now writing Advice Chick for all we know.
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: IJA, if you start sermonizing, there are members on this board who will travel long distance to hear you preach first hand . . . peace be unto you
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Name:
queeniebunz
Comment: > ChosenbyGod / MSBB - can you chill w/the caps? I don't even want to read what you wrote cuz it's hurting my eyes...caps in cyberspace means you are yelling...stop yelling at us! LOL!
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Name:
TesticAl
Comment: Damn! Homie BEAT THE DEVIL OUT OF HER! Dude straight crip walked on her in the name of Jesus. Ok, that was wrong. *hangs head*
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: [cyber pat on shoulder]it's OK Testi, you feel better?
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Name:
PBF_19
Comment: MSBB...I don't need to know the whole to know that his butt NEEDS to be put in jail for his actions. Beating your wife is never an excuse for reacting out of himself. and about him be somebody's leader, the only leader is god and that who everyone should follow.
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tsktsk01
Comment: I was thinking that if he is arrested, then they will have a lot of information for public record. For example, they could explain why they were at a conference together and he's telling single women to offer $10,000 and they will get a husband and that was last week, I believe.
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: OSUN>what?? describe, "THE ONE??"
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Name:
cornbread
Comment: FUKK BISHOP THOMAS WEEKS. THAT MUTHA FUKKA NEED HIS AZZ BEAT FOR DOIN SOME SHIIT LIKE THAT TO A WOMAN. THESE MUTHA FUKKIN PREACHERS AIN'T ABOUT SHIIT THESE DAYS. KNOW GOD FOR YOURSELF, BECAUSE THESE PIMPS ARE OUT FOR THE MONEY. THEY COULD GIVE TWO SHIITS ABOUT SAVING SOULS.
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Name:
CaliRedbone
Comment: Atlanta Police say arrest warrants have been issued for the husband of popular Pentecostal evangelist Juanita Bynum, who was allegedly beaten by him at a hotel earlier this week.
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Name:
TesticAl
Comment: Harris, thanks. I feel a bit better after that. I'm a cold hearted little boy.
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Name:
TesticAl
Comment: LMAO at my nigguh cornbread!
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Name:
SweetieDarlin
Comment: tsktsk101> FOR REAL?! The sad thing about it is that I bet some women came up with that money. Whynotme> Yes I did read the posts and where they seem to be headed after other posters mentioned she had a rather 'strong' personality. It's a shame in this day and age people act as if men don't have a choice to walk away or that grown women should be physcially 'disciplined' for their actions. Men will say if you come to me like a man, I'll treat you like one, well regardless of 'coming' like man it's still a woman.
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Name:
queeniebunz
Comment: >Cornbread - stop yelling at us! chill w/the caps! Jeez...
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Name:
DoctorSmooth
Comment: Now I aint trying to make fun of anybody but I'm curious... She calls herself Prophetess Juanita Bynum. So as a prophetess, couldnt she foresee that if she chased that man into the parking lot she was going to catch a beatdown? (I'm just wonderin')
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: tsktsk01>> $10,000 for a husband?
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Name:
OSUN
Comment: chassie you got mail
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Name:
khufu
Comment: IM trine not to laugh DRSMOOTH Im trine not to laugh......hellfire...Im trine not to ROFLMAO
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: tsktsk01 >> if that's true, then we shouldn't be surprised at the turn of events because God's Grace and Wonderous Ways are not for sale
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: $10,000 for husband? That man must be joking.
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Name:
OSUN
Comment: DoctorSmooth, maybe she didn't consult the HOly Spirit before she ran into that parking lot, or before she married this fool. If I had $10,000 I would want a warranty and the return policy on the husband notarized.
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: DoctorSmooth >> those prophet-types are blocked from being able to see their own future
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Name:
tsktsk01
Comment: When I told my friend about what happened, she shared that he was at the conference last week, selling husbands. I know that that's not how that works, but there were women writing checks. So when I say that I hope he's arrested, it's not merely to punish him, but to perhaps bring out some information we need to hear to keep people from following these folks blindly. It's ridiculous to me.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: I used to live in a Caribbean country and one day there was an ad in the newspaper for a position at a church..it was for the Pastorship....you had to gave graduated from a seminary...I showed the ad to a colleague and asked: "If I told them that God sent me, would they accept that?" My point" what makes a Prophet or Prophetess? Is that a title that folks bestow upon themselves?
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: fools and their money are parted soon enough
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Name:
ImJustAsking
Comment: ooo I want a husband *pulls out 10gs and offers it to Bishop Weeks* *he reaches for it, I snatch it back, and smack the sh!t out of him with a roll of quarters.*
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Name:
khufu
Comment: again I have a friend who worked at TBN with her....all is not what it appears to be when cameras roll
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Wonderful Works Are Done By False Prophets In The Name Of The Lord:
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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khufu
Comment: False Prophets Will Be Numerous, And Very Successful:
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
2 Pet 2:1 [NIV] But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2 Pet 2:2 [NIV] Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
2 Pet 2:3 [NIV] In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
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khufu
Comment: Now im not saying they izz or dese aint...all Im saying is: YALLL will believe anybody claiming to be......
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khufu
Comment: False Prophets Work Miracles That Deceive:
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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khufu
Comment: Many Prefer The False Prophet:
2 Tim 4:2 [NIV] Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction.
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
2 Tim 4:4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
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khufu
Comment: The Motivation of the False Prophet Is Money:
Micah 3:9 [NIV] Hear this, you leaders of the house of Jacob, you rulers of the house of Israel, who despise justice and distort all that is right;
Micah 3:10 [NIV] who build Zion with bloodshed, and Jerusalem with wickedness.
Micah 3:11 [NIV] Her leaders judge for a bribe, her priests teach for a price, and her prophets tell fortunes for money. Yet they lean upon the LORD and say, "Is not the LORD among us? No disaster will come upon us."
Micah 3:12 [NIV] Therefore because of you, Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become a heap of rubble, the temple hill a mound overgrown with thickets.
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khufu
Comment: Many People Actually Prefer False Prophets:
Isa 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
Isa 30:11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.
Isa 30:12 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon:
Isa 30:13 Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant.
Isa 30:14 And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit.
Jer 5:31 The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way. But what will you do in the end?
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bigchassie
Comment: okay, don't let aunt esther up in this piece and clean errbody out! lol! *ole fish-eyed fool*
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khufu
Comment: so again.....who are these people and who sent them? Not just them whom this story is about...but all of them. WHO REALLY SENT THEM?........I got some land in Moscow I want to sell to most of yall by the way.......
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khufu
Comment: come on ester you minus well......theatre and drama plus religion seems to be the way to make a lot of money these days
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queeniebunz
Comment: >SweetieDarlin/tsktsk101 - It doesn't surprise me that a minister would prey on a woman's desperation like that, sadly. To me the sadder part is the desperation itself. I have felt it myself and I had to snap myself out of it. Being single is preferable to a bad marriage any day of the week and twice on Sunday! This whole "I gotta have a man" thing that is ingrained in us is just too much. I was watching Judge Joe Brown yesterday and this 25 year old sista was dating an 18 year old dude and sued him for running up her credit card. Are things so crucial that women have to pull 'em outta high school to get a man? And all these women on Judge Judy/Mathis/Alex/Joe Brown/Hatchett, etc. who give their men all this money. Do ya gotta buy him? If you do buy him, what are you purchasing if he can't even support himself much less you? And this case of Bynum - an allegedly gay dude/wifebeater? Is it really that crucial. Single women everywhere should be thanking God as we go home to our quiet, clean, paid for homes and be glad we don't have to deal with such mess. We should take this as an example of what NOT to do.
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OSUN
Comment: How much do yall want to bet that most churches will not be mentioning this on Sunday including mine. My pastor has preached many times at TBN--I wonder if he will mention this.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: hmmm: whether pastor, prophet or prophetess, it's between God and an individual about that individual's calling . . . as for the rest of us, determining whose message is inspired of God and whether it's good to attend a church to receive and reflect upon that message is a toughie just like trying to determine where to find a good church family
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khufu
Comment: by the way...who deems one a prophet?
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HarrisThomas
Comment: khufu, ya been mighty righteous up in heah today, peace and blessings
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bigchassie
Comment: OSUN>you got mail flying at cha!
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fresh8
Comment: Good Day people, her name is prophetess Juanita Bynum, mighty tools of God almighty, she have not hurt anyone only open her shame to the world, if you were at the women on the front line you will know this is the devil hand work. The Lord is given her to the world and making her name great for the plan he have for the upcoming days for the Lord glory. please pray for them, because why black mens get so full of hate when the black women blow up, how can he face the women at his church and he has a daughter also, black mens they don't pay for their kids most of them and now you can truth any man in church it seen, i feel for the women who are marriage to the leader in the church, because she came forward with her shame but there are many who hind it and stay with the devil as he preach every sunday wendesday my God, and that is why, God have bless prophetess Jusniys Bynum she shows all her pain and she is so real, The devil is using this to get her name out in the world and the world will click on the web site and here her teaching and be save, renewed, restore, healed, what the devil means for evil God is using it to take her off as soon as possible n the hospital she is still moving the internet is working for her good she is a gift f rom God and a great example that his MERCY prophetess JUANITA BYNUM HAVE ENTER INTO THE REAL REST OF GOD AND I AM IN IT WITH HER, PLEASE PRAY FOR HER AND THE MATE SHE MARRIAGE WHOM NAME MOST OF US NEVER HEARD OF UNTIL HE GOT WITH THE BLESS WOMEN OF GOD THEY BELONG TO GOD AND ALL THE SAINT NEED TO BE N PRAY FOR THEM AND TAKING HANDS OFF OF THEM BECAUSE U MAY BE NEXT IN LINE FOR A WORLD WIDE SHAME DON'T LET YOUR SINS COME TO CHURCH AND SPEAK AGAIN YOU. TO ANY WOMEN LIVING WITH A CHURCH LEADER OR MAN WHO AT ONE WAY AT CHURCH BUT HE FIGHTES YOU AND HURT YOU AT HOME GOD SEE YOU AND HE IS ABOUT TO EXPOSE YOU AND YOUR SIN THE KINGDOM OF THIS WORLD IS NOW BECOMING THE KINGDOM OF OUR GOD TO HIM BE THE GLORY. ONLY WHAT U DO FOR GOD WILL CROSS OVER IN THE END, SO WHO ARE U WORKING FOR IN THIS WORLD DEVIL OR JESUS YOU MAKE THE CHOOSE
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khufu
Comment: did the prophets call themselves "prophet?"
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OSUN
Comment: HarrisThomas agreed, but I think if we pay attention to the messages that are preached and do our self study it will become apparent. There are some things about my pastor that I dont like but I am of the opinion God can use anyone to impart knowledge and wisdom in your life. But I am thinking about making a move.
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khufu
Comment: I aint trine to be righteous...i am just trying to be common sensical.....
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queeniebunz
Comment: >And keep in mind that I say this as someone close to engagement/already picked out my ring. I am not a bitter woman mad because I don't have a man. I've been w/mine for 2 years and it's time to discuss the future. I just think a man should add to your life and not take away from it. If he takes away, he gots to go...
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khufu
Comment: OSUN Bible says "Study to show thyself approved.."
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khufu
Comment: "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ', and will deceive many."
(Matthew 24:4-5)
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khufu
Comment: so isnt divorce against the Bible?
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QueenCityBee
Comment: They actually got a APB out for this fool. umphf..umphf..umphf..
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ImJustAsking
Comment: Osun< my pastor is 78 years old. He'll be like Juanita who? lol
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khufu
Comment: respectfully Fresh you too must now make the choice: is it Jesus or her YOU are going to serve.......
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queeniebunz
Comment: >khufu - I have often wondered how people get their titles myself. Bishop? Prophet? Prophetess? Prophetess sounds like a witch doctor. It just sounds wrong... I know in the Episcopal church a bishop is appointed and is above the ministers of the church. It is a hierarchy. But Bishop TD and Eddie Long? I think they decided it sounded important and voila! they're bishops. Suspect to me...
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PBF_19
Comment: DoctorSmooth...you are so right. as a prophet she should have seen it coming. so true. I can't wait for the real story to be released. mark my words it's either going to be:
1. Juanita was caught cheating at a local hotel, husband followed her, went to the room, told her it was over, walked out to the parking lot, she followed and then he went balistic on her OR
2. Juanita followed him to a hotel, peeked into the window, saw husband with another man, threatened to divorced, husband left hotel without saying a word and walked to his car, Juanita then shouted "I'm going to expose you", husband went balistic on her.
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khufu
Comment: for me the issue isnt about her or him but about the idols you humans create....
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ImJustAsking
Comment: IJA's pastor "Janita Bynum? Don't she live right there on south Key road?" IJA "No Rev. Goode, she is a famous evangelist." IJA's pastor "Evangelist?, oh no no that ain't nothing but the devil right there. She should not be doing nothing like that. And you say her hit her?" IJA "Rev. Goode, YOU are an evangelist too!" IJA's pastor "NO I AIN'T! I am a Pastor, a man of *dips back* GAWD!" IJA *sighs* "Anyway, Pastor, she is a famous PREACHER and her husband hit her." IJA's Pastor "Oh ok, well...how's you momma doing? She doin all right?"
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bigchassie
Comment: KHUFU>CTFUPPP!!! FO SHO! HA GLAWWRIE!!
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queeniebunz
Comment: >khufu - No. Divorce is mentioned in Matthew 5, I think... Adultery is considered a valid reason for divorce but isn't considered a forgone conclusion.
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khufu
Comment: QUEENIE it's like the POpe...God didnt have anything to do with the choosing of the POpe....the council did.
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ImJustAsking
Comment: Queenie< for once I agree with you! They do not know what Bishop means. They like the sound. Just like Dr. Dre.
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CaliRedbone
Comment: I say we 'raise an offering' sing a hymm' and walk out.
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khufu
Comment: she aint supposed to be divorcing in the first place is she? come on yall die hard right wing "christian" fanatics......bible totin, non-reading...LOL....is she supposed to be divorcing?
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ChocolateBrownGal
Comment: IJA....too stoopid! How IS you're momma doin? ROTFLMBAO
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khufu
Comment: here is how the pope is selected....http://italian.about.com/library/weekly/aa 050901a.htm
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queeniebunz
Comment: khufu: below is a link that talks about divorce from the Christian perspective. There are also other answers to questions that are quite good. http://bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=151
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tsktsk01
Comment: God calls prophets, but that's not an official title. That is something black "prophets" bestowed upon themselves. It's like the title of Bishop, which isn't technically a title, it's a job. And the prophets of the Bible were the ones who gave the bad word, the warning and in the new testament they are people who evangelize the Good News of Christ. I've never seen an authentic position or title for prophet in the Word that showed someone proclaiming the good news of a husband. That's profit-lying. God doesn't need our money to bless us. The Word says he blesses who he blesses and curses who he curses. We are a greedy and desperate generation.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >IJA - I think I want to be called "Queen" from now on. My screen name is what my brothers called me growing up for being a prima donna and hogging the bathroom but now I think I'm gonna proclaim myself "Queen"...of what, I'm not sure...So instead of Ms. in front of my name, I'll be called "Queen"! If they can do it, so can I! LOL!
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khufu
Comment: so who was the last prophet called TSK? Are you saying there are no Black prophets?
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Deb70
Comment: ImJustAsking>>You are hilarious.
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khufu
Comment: what does a prophet do TSK?
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ImJustAsking
Comment: CBG/Pastor< My momma is fine, thanks for asking. lol Queenie< You're on to something!! I'm a spokesperson, so from now on I'm going to call myself "White House Press Secretary." It's my dream job. I don't see any reason to hold myself back any longer.
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bigchassie
Comment: OSUN>did you get it?
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queeniebunz
Comment: >khufu - you are preaching to the choir about the pope and all of Catholicism. That whole denomination is off. I would never go to a priest and give any kind of confession. God already saw me do whatever it was! He already knows I told that little white lie to get out of that speeding ticket or when I told my boss I liked her dress...
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khufu
Comment: I dont think any of the Biblical Prophets ever called themselves Prophets...they just followed the call and message from The Most High....
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NOTESINGER
Comment: IJA: Girl ... you really have made my day with your "conversation" with your "pastor." Queeniebunz: I've always been of the opinion that there are some problems I'm glad I don't have to deal with. Being single, with no man issues: priceless!!
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bigchassie
Comment: Dayum! yall just left the free 4 all hanging today. its almost 300 posts on here.
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khufu
Comment: LOL IJA damn...I have to laugh at thqat one "call myself white house secretary" that was funny
Better uet..sheet "Im President" sheet the way things are going, folks might give believe me....they are so desperate,....dont people follow most "ministers" out of desperation?
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queeniebunz
Comment: >IJA - well, Tony Snow is on his way out, supposedly but do you really want to be the voice of GW Bush? It is good to wait for a president you can speak for who won't make you lose your AA card as well as your chance of getting into heaven! That's a joke for the holy rollers. I know the proper way to get into heaven, etc, etc...
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khufu
Comment: IJA Im President and and youre Press Secretary...come here girl...Youll be my Monica Lewinsky
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khufu
Comment: i caint resist messing with IJA.....anyway..news is about to come on about Junaita Bynum
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ImJustAsking
Comment: Queenie< Since I already work for the gov’t I speak on behalf of Bush everyday. I freaking HATE IT. And last week I got in so much trouble I was stressed all week. But yes, I would rather be WHPC for someone I support, even though, as a press person, there will always be some sh!t you have to say that you don’t agree with. Notesinger/CBG< my pastor is straight old school. And he knows me very well. When I get married, I hope I am close with a different pastor b/c knowing mine, he will try to talk my fiancé out of marrying me during marriage counseling.
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asize12
Comment: I know it's late, but Boom-Boom has been giving me the BLUES. Anyway, I have to say that I'm not too familiar with Rev. Juanita Bynum, so I don't know anything about her. I'm not familiar with Bishop Thomas Weeks either. IMO, I don't give a hell WHAT she said to him, that DOES NOT justify him choking & kicking her. Like someone mentioned, you can't be killed from someone fussing at you, but you can from physical abuse. I don't know if she was emotionally abusive to him or vice versa. All I know is he's a punk for beating her like that, period! And no, it's not the 1st time cuz if he's bold enough to do it in public, then he's already doing it at home. As for the folks that leave church completely & talk down about those that chose to continue to fellowship, what are you basing this on? You can't condemn EVERY SINGLE church just because you've had some bad experiences because every single church is not like that. Just say that you don't feel like going and you'd rather worship alone, cuz that's the truth. Saying that "I don't go to church cuz err'body is a hypocrite & all the people there are doomed to hell" is a cop out. I know that every church member is not geniune & some of us church members may be 'frontin' and they may be going straight to hell, but who is man to say who is & who isn't going to hell. I mean really, nobody really knows who is & who isn't going to hell, only God knows that so I wish people would stop the madness. I personally attend a great church. My pastor is an annointed man. I enjoy listening to him deliver the word, however I don't look to him as "my saviour" because I trust in God and God only, not man.
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khufu
Comment: ASIZE you dont know anything about them but you know he's done it before huh?
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bigchassie
Comment: bye yall *throws holy water on all of them*
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ChocolateBrownGal
Comment: IJA..LOL your fiancee may be asking your pastor to lay hands on him for strength and healing on how to handle being MR. IJA. Lawd have mercy on that brother....he is in TROUBLE! Goodgoogamooga!
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khufu
Comment: again the brother was wrong...my last word for the day....but let's see what the circumstances were before we totally condemn him....yes, his actions are condemnable
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asize12
Comment: >khufu, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he's been beating her in 'private' since he's beating her in 'public'. I think my as*sumption is safe...
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khufu
Comment: The day Juanita Bynum walked down the aisle, she knew she was about to make the biggest mistake of her life, but the gown and the draw of the crowd and the gleaming limousine beckoned her on towards matrimony. One year and two months later, Bynum's blissful dreams ended in a failed marriage. In her newest book, No More Sheets: The Truth About Sex (Pneuma Life, 1998), Bynum recounts her tale of how she was delivered from her self-destructive past to become the powerful messenger of God's truth through obedience to God's will and principles.
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khufu
Comment: In her book, Bynum admits it took years of getting out from under the sheets before she experienced God's freedom and ultimate emotional release. Sheets are layers of emotional baggage that come from past sexual experiences, notes Bynum. The name of her book means putting an end to ungodly sexual relationships.
"There were some very strong things already wrong with me before I connected myself to that individual," says Bynum about her life before marriage. In her book, she recounts how she began experimenting sexually while a young teen. Although she was a virgin when she married, she still carried deep wounds from her past relationships.
Fairy tale idealism clouded Bynum's perspective towards marriage. "I went into the relationship after an exciting wedding and not the ministry of a marriage," she says. Like many women, she went into marriage with what she terms a "gold digger mentality" — the expectation that the significant other would give her things she lacked, whether that be money or glamour or status.
Bynum knew she had married a man outside of God's will and soon she would pay the price for her disobedience to God's plan for her life. Her marriage was dismantling her public ministry as a preacher in the church. She went into a deep depression and sought out her pastor for wisdom and support.
While at her pastor's house, Bynum says she was overcome with a desire to take her own life. So she swallowed every pill in their medicine cabinet and left. Fortunately, the pastor's wife realized what Juanita had done and they both saved her from being run over by a semi-truck as she walked back home.
Soon after, she prayed for forgiveness. God told her to fulfill all of her marriage vows so that she could experience spiritual freedom. So she tried everything to honor her husband and serve the Lord. One day she got the crushing news that her husband was leaving her. Juanita could not believe she was being abandoned.
Racked with emotional pain from her recent separation, she was unable to work and was reduced to living on welfare. Her ministry unraveled. Juanita went from one bad relationship to another with men who did not respect her or serve the Lord.
In 1983, three years after her marriage to her first husband, Juanita went through an emotional crisis. One evening, she blacked out. A deacon found her walking down the middle of the street in nothing but a T-shirt and jeans and no shoes in the middle of winter. She was taken to the hospital. Alone in a padded cell, Bynum remembers banging her head repeatedly against the wall. "I couldn't talk," says Bynum. "Just the inside of me was crying out."
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khufu
Comment: Eventually her mother paid someone to get Juanita out of the hospital. For some 20 days, Bynum lay in her mother's bed crying out. Then one night, God visited her. "I audibly heard the voice of the Lord calling my name," she says. Juanita saw the ceiling of her mother's bedroom open up and in a vision, she saw a hand clasping a spool of thread. The hand was tying one end of the thread to one mountain peak, and the other end of the thread to a different mountain peak. Then she saw herself naked on that thread looking down at the flames below her. The hand said, "Come to me." So Juanita walked towards it. As she walked, she cried out in fear that she was falling. But the voice of the Lord spoke to her. He said, "As long as you keep your eyes on me, you shall never fall. Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus."
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khufu
Comment: nstantly the power of God came upon her and she began speaking in tongues for several hours. God then proceeded to show Juanita her new destiny. "And it was during that time that he gave me an open vision of me ministering in front of thousands of people," Juanita recalls. "He said, 'This is your final destination. You're under the mandate of my hand, but with my mind. The minute you decide that you don't want to do what I've called you to do, I will give you back the mind you lost, but right now you are operating with my mind.' And from that point on, my ministry just took off."
Although God healed her mind, Bynum's trials were not over. The worst was yet to come. In 1985, Bynum began struggling with anorexia. As she struggled to hold food down, Juanita went from a size 16 to a size 5. She dropped drastically from 160 to 114 pounds. She knew she needed another miracle from God. Otherwise within six months she would be dead.
Bynum had heard good things about a local 6,000-member church. One evening she visited that church and went to the altar for prayer. As one of the saints prayed over her, she was instantly released of her anorexia and her underlying prejudice against whites.
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khufu
Comment: After a lifetime of struggle, Bynum knows she has found the answer to her past pain. "Every single day of my life I struggle to crucify my flesh," she writes. So what is the solution? "The bottom line to walking out any form of deliverance, whether it's sexual, whether it's emotional, is obedience to God. He knows the way that we take and when He has tried us in our obedience, when He has tested us to see if we are going to do exactly what He has called us to do, then we're going to come out as pure gold."
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khufu
Comment: ASIZE!@ respectfully youre being presumptuous
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Name:
BigBlackRod
Comment: I try not to watch Rev. Bynum, 'cause I have impure thoughts whenever the camera shows a shot of her whole body; that said, if you keep ending up with the same kind of person, I'd think you'd figure out that you gotta change your range of selection...PEACE.
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khufu
Comment: (2) False Prophesy by Dean & Laura VanDruff, 1996....
"As spiritual adultery increases in the church, false prophets will flourish as highly sought after speakers, and as Christians accept more of these false teachings indiscriminately, many will fall away, believing in a phony "faith". Since we have been warned, it might be wise to seek insight into how to discern false prophecy - what are false prophets likely to say? What are they like?"
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Name:
asize12
Comment: >khufu, respectfully, that's your opinion and my opinion is mine. Thanx for coming out, God Bleth You, Good Night;-)
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Name:
khufu
Comment: opinion huh? ASIZE12
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Name:
SweetieDarlin
Comment: asize12>Okay Russell...LOL!
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Name:
Deb70
Comment: Assuming this negro has beat on her before, why is this the first time she took pictures of her bruises, and first time pressing charges? 'Cause it was done publicly and she has to address it for real this time. Makes me wonder if she'll really leave. Maybe, out of embarassment.
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SweetieDarlin
Comment: Deb70> That was the concern I mentioned post as well. More than likely because it was public, this will give her the push to leave. Now unfortunately, that can leave it open later on to say that he prayed and was delivered and they can resume theird since it would seem that she wasn't interested in letting go or whatever when he left her at the resturant after their reconciliation talk. Sorry that was a reach, I'm a writer at heart and like spinning possible scenarios---anyway as long as she knows that a man that beats you should be left alone.
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Deb70
Comment: SweetieDarlin>>yes, I hope she rolls out. Because if she goes back, and they do this whole thing of being delivered from all this, in front of their respective church members/national audiences, then this shat happens again? Which it likely would? Then they become laughing stocks.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Okay, now, this heffa spent $1 million on her wedding to this happy azzed mofo to give her a beatdown in a $2.00 parking lot.
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KarenL
Comment: It is very unfortunate what has happened with Dr. Bynum and her husband. I pray that God will bring healing and restoration to both of them. As a woman, I still believe in the Word of God and the principles that He promises for a happy and successful marriage. My prayer for the Body of Christ is that as we continue to seek the Lord Jesus Christ and walk out His word, single or married, we can find the joy and fulfillment in our purpose and destiny that only He can provide.
www.myspace.com/livingpasstheorgasm.com
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Name:
buzzybuzz
Comment: Hey it's hard to be "PIMP".The bishop was a pimp in da' pulpit anyway!! He pimped her out got the marriage thing to control her $$$$$ and then beat the hell outta' ha'.that what pimps do to they' ....'s OK! GOD will be exposing MO' pimps and you know what ... ,in the near future,I promise you.Just watch!! By the way I wasn't calling Ms. Bynum a ---,so hold your comments about that one OK.TBN showcases all them false ones too.Believers ,KEEP your head in GOD's WORD.Stop following men,man.Jesus said,"FOLLOW ME..."
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