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nightshift
Comment: If all you got to do is sow a seed, I'm hot-footing to the walmart feed & seed section. I'm going lay out a bumper crop. It's preachers like him that keep people like me far away...I can't believe he would say a woman has the "nerve" to end her marriage.!! It's like your burden stay with that bast@rd until he's good and done with beting the crap out of you. FVCK that!!
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fanteeking
Comment: Too simplistic! This marital situation is much more complex than a "cliched", made for TV solution. Sadly, many of these mega-preachers haven't attended accredited seminaries and have NO background in marital counseling. One here in Indiana who was a BLACK republican and head of the FORT WAYNE NAACP, was executive director of ALL PRISON CHAPLINS in this state. It was discovered that since he was a BLACK REPUBLICAN the governor gave him that position as a prize for "selling out". He barely had a high school diploma and NO college training. My point: be careful to whom you listen on Sunday. Check their credentials and make sure their message is LOGICAL!!!
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Selah
Comment: We give the devil a lot of credit, don't we? It was the deveil in Weeks that made him act like a weakling.
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TGen
Comment: This guy sounds like a clown. How inappropriate for him to speak about someone else getting divorced like he knows what's going on in that household! What a turd. And btw nightshift, he was trying to be sarcastic when he went on the "sow a seed" rant, trying to mock Bynum and Weeks I suppose, but unfortunately he didn't do a good job trying to be a smart alec. This guy missed the mark all the way around. Btw, the end of the article confused me. How is he "sensitive" to these people's situations in a newsletter and yet exploits them and mocks them on TV? What a tool...
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McNasty
Comment: I don't mind that he spoke, I do have a problem with the fact that he's an oatmeal man (gil scot heron) - who the hell is he? You never heard of him until this and he is sitting in judgement on these folks, he only knows what he heard and read and as a pastor that stuff is supposed to go in one ear and out the other. I bet he gets a little following outta this from like minded folks - what y'all think?
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HarrisThomas
Comment: ??!!huuuh? . . . even though he said he was being sarcastic, there are people who will not understand the derision and believe that Apostle Brian S. Lewis actually determined that paying money will resolve marital difficulties: "Why don't you sow $100,000 a month for the next 12 months and watch your deliverance?" . . . the Whites haven't itemized why they are divorcing, so it's not clear to me why or how any church leadership can fix they mouths to say "divorce is not of God unless there was some type of infidelity, unless there was somebody that was unfaithful and none of you better ever marry again because you'll be in an adulterous marriage" which is the long way of saying "inquiring minds wanna know" . . .
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HarrisThomas
Comment: you're right, McNasty, junior jerk is being opportunistic
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tsktsk01
Comment: As I recall, someone who is an apostle is someone who has actually seen and followed Jesus. Like Paul, Peter, James, Mark, and the Crew. I understood what he was trying to say but he is essentially trying to get his 15 minutes in... If Jakes or a Ulmer or Long said something, then it would have more impact.
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Vanity
Comment: I just hope his closets are closed real tight...nailed shut. He has put his self on front street, his stuff betta be squeaky clean....
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OSUN
Comment: I think the point was missed by some. He is basically saying that you can't sow a seed to get out of your problem. He was telling the Weeks to use what they preach and sow exorbitant amounts of money to something in order to get out of their problems.
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BigSexy
Comment: Wow, he was way out of line to tell Paula she has no right to get a divorce. People listen, if things are not right in your marriage, and you know without a doubt you don't/can't work things out, get a divorce. Our God is a loving and forgiving God. Don't let this joker of a preacher lead you wrong. It's in the Bible. He allowed divorce because of the hardness of man's heart. He was tired of women being treated any kind of way so instead of the man treating the woman like crap because he didn't want to be with her, he allowed the man to divorce her.
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BlkATLTop
Comment: Isn't Juanita Bynum the woman who told a convention hall full of women that if they sowed a seed (I believe of $1,000 or more) that they would get a husband? Someone please confirm! I'll surf the web later for the answer. I have heard her go on those "sow a seed" rants before.
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Exmun
Comment: BlkATLTop, I believe the amount that Bynum said was $10,000.00 not $1,000.00. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Platinum
Comment: Here's what I found about false prophetess Bynum:
Pick up the phone! Pick up the phone! Come on! God’s talking to you!…It’s your night for a divine release! You say, ‘Woman of God–it’s my last $1,000.00' It ain’t your last–it’s your favor! It’s your favor! If you’re watching by television tonight you may have nothing but $20.00 in your pocket. You better put it in an envelope–run down the street to the mailbox! Put it in the mailbox! Because you got to release something from your house tonight! Tonight is divine release! Tonight is divine release!…Tonight is divine release! I’m talking to you single mother. Every single parent–God dares you to sow a seed of $300.00. It’s your divine release seed! You ain’t got no place to turn! Come on! You’re one check away from a divine release!”
(Juanita Bynum, TBN, “Spring Praise-A-Thon,” April 8, 2005)
Have any of you ever seen her participate in any of those beg -a- thons on TBN....just sad!
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TGen
Comment: OSUN, correct. Some people missed it, but the article tried to clarify that this guy was being sarcastic when he was ranting about "sowing a seed," he was trying to mock Bynum and Weeks...as I wrote in my first post. Even so, this was a tacky way to try to get publicity, using other folks' personal hardships to bring yourself recognition. Better to speak in general terms than the way he did it. Oh well, you can't buy class...
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PastorMarc
Comment: Many people know Scripture. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees about how they searched the Scriptures because they thought they had life in them, but the Scriptures testify of Him! Many people including preachers don't know Him. The children of Israel knew His acts, but Moses knew His ways. This isn't the way of the Master. His way is the way of Love. You don't have to be too smart to know wife beating is not of God. It's not that deep. But you need to be very careful about what you say about God's people. They've all made very public mistakes and misrepresentations. Our best preaching is foolishness anyway. Besides, it was God's intentional plan to choose the low, despised things of the world to confound the wise. In other words, it's only a testimony to the Power of God that people are being saved and living for Him off the preaching of people who need Him just as much as we do. John did. Peter did. Thomas did. Paul certainly did. The question is, will those of you who are spiritual restore the fallen in the spirit of meekness? Will you follow the way of the Master?
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Pamalicious
Comment: AMEN! AMEN!....I like this article!!!! Finally a man of God that is willing to stand for the word of God.... The scriptures speaks against divorce!!!!! unless there has been adultery.... and Ministers/Bishops should not be divorced!!!!! PERIOD.... its a hard pill to swallow but the word orders the "CALLED" to make their calling and election SURE!!!!!
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WillyBobo
Comment: watch what you say about God's people? show me scripture for that...anyway this dude was pointing out the fallacy of the Bynum-Weeks "theology".....as far as Paula White and her husband go, how you start up is how you finish....They are making Christianity look foolish as a whole....why?...first of all, we've placed these people on pedestals like they're next to God....well if they are next to God, why didnt God tell them that they weren't meant for each other so they wouldnt have to go through this divorce....secondly, we're protesting against gays getting married and 50% of Christian couples are getting divorced....It doesn't add up..that's why it's imperative that we have a close personal relationship with God so He can tell us who would be our best match/compliment/fit....just because a person is saved, sanctified, and full of the Holy Ghost does not mean that they are God's best for us.....
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McNasty
Comment: Thanks PastorMarc I hope all of us understand at least that!
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Name:
khufu
Comment: sigh
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Name:
Platinum
Comment: LOL.... exactly who is God's people. Willy your comment was rightous and made way more sense.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: lost...some yall are loooooooooossssssssssssttt!
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Yes Pamalicious..that's what scripture says: e!!!! The scriptures speaks against divorce!!!!! unless there has been adultery.... and Ministers/Bishops should not be divorced!!!!! PERIOD...."
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6footah
Comment: BigSexy, be careful...yes, if a man's heart is hard, God told Moses to give a cert. of divorce, however Jesus came behind that and said, if it wasn't infidelity, any marriage they have in the future is an adulterous marriage. So, he is right...HOWEVER...I pray this man's intentions were pure, because if he said all of this stuff out of pride, and not judgement of the sin (which is a-ok with me), then God will deal with him as well. I do agree with all he said though.
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Pamalicious
Comment: I just listened to Apostle Brian S Lewis' message in its entirety .... Spiritual and true..... "The Pressure of the PRESS"... WOW
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OSUN
Comment: Pamalicious, do you think God expects Bynum to stay married to Weeks?
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adifferentpath
Comment: I'm loving the comments and agree with most. I'm unsure if this pastor knows but something negative in him has led his spirit to even be as much as sarcastic about these VERY serious matters - in the church or not. Abuse and divorce are painful experiences for ALL parties involved. His comments also get him (dunt, dunt, dunnnn- drumroll) in the spotlight. I hope this was not his intention, however, he had to see that piece coming. He's planting seeds in the minds of many-in his church and knowledgably in tvland. His seeds will also bear fruit...
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seventhson
Comment: This man is ridiculous.
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jctunes2
Comment: I agree with a lot of what the minister had to say. I hope, though, that he would have said the same thing even if he wasn't going to be on TV/internet, and didn't say it just because he'd be viewed on those two mediums. And you know folks are going to be trying to dig through his closet to see if anything's there....
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DoctorSmooth
Comment: Apostle? Thats a pretty lofty title. What qualfies this man to be called "Apostle"? Just curious.
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Pamalicious
Comment: OSUN, I'll go you one step further.... If the news reports serves correctly.. remember if... Then I understand that Bishop Weeks and Prophetess Bynum were in an adulterously courtship... it is my understanding that Bishop Weeks was still married when he and Ms Bynum were dating..... IF THAT WERE THE CASE... she should have NEVER married him in the first place ..... because then, the relationship is adulteress... Now to answer your question directly, let's assume the forestated is not TRUE... then scriptures state marriage brings man and woman together and they are one flesh.. the only way this is broken is if one of them commits Adultery.. the one that is in fault is bond by the first marriage and should not marry again... however the one that is innocent is free from the first marriage. Now, if she forgives him and desires to stay in her marriage, then so be it...
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Pamalicious
Comment: I'll also say, that when a wedding is performed... the Minister normally starts by saying that marriage SHOULD NOT BE entered into lightly.....
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seventhson
Comment: Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. It doesn't matter if Juanita and Weeks were smoking blunts and having sex before marriage in public. Spousal abuse is NEVER EVER NEVER EVER justified. Ever. So to make any statment that even hints along the lines that she deserved it is irreprehensible.
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McNasty
Comment: The bible also speaks of being evenly yoked and none of these couples, regardless of their standing or positions in the church seemed to heed that. None of them married the right way or for the right reasons and it is for God in his infinite wisdom to help them sort out. This pastor is putting himself in a position to make fodder of their situations - he should just be still!
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OSUN
Comment: Pamalicious, I understand what you have said, I just need some clarification. Assuming that their marriage was not adulterous, Weeks alledgedly beat her savagely but was not adulterous. Is Bynum bound to that marriage. Also if their marriage was adulterous(using the first scenario), is she allowed to divorce him although she should not have married him to begin with?
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PastorMarc
Comment: A'ight McNasty, now you preaching. If we belong to Him, love Him, follow Him, then we got to obey Him! And for this Lewis fella...shooting fish in a bucket. Wow, what an anointing.
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Cappaucino
Comment: Yea the Devil made me do it is getting old, if Bishop (Weak)s was under a spirit it was the spirit of Ike Turner. I can't speak on the Divorce it's hard, not making excuses but some relationships are irrepairable. I Don't like this preachers comments either they were off base... Way off base in fact that ish didn't make any sense....
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cornbread
Comment: FUKK ALL OF THESE CROOKS!! THEY CAN ALL SUCK DAVID BANNER'S AND AL SHARPTON'S DICK! I AIN'T GIVIN 'EM SHIIT!! THE ONLY THING I'M GIVIN 'EM IS THE MIDDLE FINGER.
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DoctorSmooth
Comment: Why is he dragging Paula White into this. If he saw the statments the Whites made, her husband Randy took the blame himself for the breakup of the marriage. They didnt give any further details. So why is he making it sound like she is walking away from her marriage? I'm not sure how "inspired" or anointed his message is, to be honest. I think he should be careful when talking about a situation that he doesnt know much about. Otherwise, it couild just seem like he's "piling on" in a situation like this.
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OSUN
Comment: DRSmooth I totally agree with your last statement, But if you ascribe to and Ministers/Bishops should not be divorced!!!!! PERIOD...." then I guess there are no other recourses.
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DoctorSmooth
Comment: OSUN, I ascribe to what Jesus said about the topic. Divorce is allowable in the case of sexual immorality. I dont see why bishops/ministers shouldnt be allowed that right, if the Bible allows it. I believe that ministers should make a special effort to see if they can save their marriage, even in the case of sexual immorality, but if one decides to file for divorce in that case, its not my place to judge.
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Name:
StopBeingIgnant
Comment: OMG !!! They sell ringtones.
http://www.ancla.info/product/product.html
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Name:
oshun
Comment: >>Vanity
Comment: I just hope his closets are closed real tight...nailed shut. He has put his self on front street, his stuff betta be squeaky clean....
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING, VANITY!
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Name:
unclekipper
Comment: for real, dude!
who selected this ofay w/bad facts to represent on a primarily Black website?
not lee bailey's site!
just know, mr. 'bishop' white man; whatever the issues are, what qulifies you to speak on it?
trust me, doc. thomas 'weaks' is an absolute charlitan with a violence problem, with abuser/abuse issues, and totally unacredited.
while i get the sarcasm of 'sow a seed'. again, i don't wanna hear that from you!
that's that carpetbagger shyt.
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nightshift
Comment: We's all going to H#ll. See??? been laughing at them d@mn catholics so long and this is what happens. Hail Mary- Amen, amen & amen. There nothing but a bunch of "jack-leggs" I will continue to pray from the floor in my home. Oh yeah, I bet the gospel section has never gotten so many hits since its inception. Shame that this brutality brought it some attention.
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nylaconnect
Comment: Guess I'm the only one who noticed that the only person this cat didn't blast was the person who most resembled himself,his fellow white brother,Randy White.If you are to believe some reports both Whites were stepping out on each other,but hey ,someone broke up someones home when they originally got together.
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nylaconnect
Comment: PS and Paula should imo dress more appropriately,I saw her here last year at the Shrine in L.A. and homegirl had on a very short dress.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >nyla - since when did a dress length mean anything in being annointed? I have only a small idea who Paula White is but the length of her skirt is such a petty thing to even discuss...Please don't tell me you're one of them...Do you stand at the door of the church and make women do the "fingertip test" or the "kneel test"? Do you hand out scarves? Jeez...
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queeniebunz
Comment: This guy makes the argument I've been trying to make all week to MoKelly. Silence is golden. He opened his mouth and confirmed his ignorance. People can scoff at Jakes all they want for zipping his lips but he hasn't confirmed any ignorance and that shows wisdom. What an idiot!
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Name:
TMan
Comment: Do you mean to tell me, this man is saying in order for weeks and bynum to not fight no more they need to have babies? LOL! What tha!?!?!?!! LOL! OK, someoone needs to splain this to me! LOL! How would that end them fighting??!?! LOL! Dang!
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DoctorSmooth
Comment: Queeniebunz... I would agree that sometimes people can go overboard regarding clothing standards in the church. But if, for example, a female pastor was wearing a mini-skirt or a too-short dress in the pulpit, you have to see how that can be seen as inappropriate.(Not to say that Paula White was wering a miniskirt... just using that as an example). Same thing if her blouse was showing a lot of cleavage. That would be inappropriate for any woman in church, but even more so for a woman in the ministry. So to answer your question, what does that have to do with her being anointed? If she's anointed , you'd assume she's close to God. And if she's close to god you'd think she'd be perceptive enough to know that there are some things a woman of God shouldnt be wearing.
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cornbread
Comment: I LIKE A SEXY BIITCH IN A SHORT MINI SKIRT WITH HIGH HEELS ON SHOWING ALL HER TITTIES. THAT SHIIT REALLY TURNS ME ON. THOSE BIITCHEZ WEARING THOSE LONG AZZ SKIRTS ARE THE FREAKIEST BIITCHES IN THE WORLD. TRUST ME.
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nylaconnect
Comment: Queeniebunz,
Read your Bible iT does say something about WOMEN dressing modestly.I wasn't speaking about other women(so please don't put words in mouth as I clearly stated Paula) in church but like Smooth said if you're a pastor,as she says she is( however what Bible they read is debatable,as JESUS clearly speaks about divorce being adultery,if the reason for the parting is anything but adultery,yet she and her husband have done it twice and in this case they say there is no other person).It seems like the Bible has rules no one wants to follow and we wonder why the world is so jacked up.
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nylaconnect
Comment: to Queeniebunz
Scripture is 1 Timothy 2:9
9I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.
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