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Brandon
Comment: When it rains it pours, huh?! While the debt may be in his name... he's a married man -- if he has debt, they both have debt. The instance between him & his wife and this situation regarding outstanding debt are not related. No doubt, he went to far with his wife...... as for the debt, since they're married, they're equally responsible.
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fuzzygoss
Comment: Stress, not the devil, made him do it! Stress is a beast of all beast! Debt is a close second! >>>Let this be a lesson. >>>Get your homes in order. Live within your means, budget wisely.
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robijoa
Comment: I'm right there with you Fuzzy. People need to live within their means and stop trying to parlay like it's your last. In Atlanta you have alot of people "flossin" like they got it like that. Buying cars, living in expensive (leased/rental) homes, buying all the latest clothes and falling deeper into financial crisis. Don't keep blaming it on the devil, take responsibility for your own actions sometimes.
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Smokie1
Comment: The more I hear of this case the more I believe the email that was sent to me about them.
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BlkATLTop
Comment: Ok Smokey- since you brought it up, what did the email sent to you say?
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BlkATLTop
Comment: I'll bet if they go through the financial records of the church, those will probably be in shambles too. Hopefully the tithes of the members will not go towards paying off their creditors.
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JGGIRL
Comment: According to the Atlanta Journal and Constitution this weekend, his Atlanta Church was about to be evicted because he was $53,000 in arrears on rent also. Someone stepped forward and paid it.
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born2sing65
Comment: JGGIRL-> THAT is very intersting!!! I was listening to a clip just this weekend of the Prophetess talking about she had millions of dollars of art and collectibles and when Bishop came to her house while they were dating he knew that he needed to "work harder". Her words. So all of this working harder REALLY meant more debt.
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gingerg
Comment: Seems like Brother Weeks has Cristal taste and a beer budget.
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gingerg
Comment: Knew he had to work harder? All he knew was that Juanita was desperate to get married and would fall for the flim flam easily.
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gingerg
Comment: I said Atlanta was the wrong place to show out from the get go. They will get all up in your business.
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bigheadbull2
Comment: This should suprise no one
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LawdHvMrcy
Comment: Wow. I hope he ain't using folks' tithes to pay off this stuff.
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OSUN
Comment: Brandon there are ways to get around the spouse having to pay for the other spouse's financial recklessness. The creditors will try to badger Bynum for the money but if these items were not bought jointly she can get out of it. Especially if they are divorcing.
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gingerg
Comment: I'm not convinced that Juanita won't take him back. It is amazing what some people will put up with. I was having a conversation with my sister over the weekend when she commented on my grandmother speaking well of a cousin's boyfriend. He works two jobs and helps her take care of her kids. My sister is very self-righteous and was upset about that. According to her "None of that means anything if a man is not willing to marry you.
As I recall, her husband had another woman 8 months pregnant when she married him (at her expense) and he has cheated and disrespected her throughout their 14 years together. On top of that, she is the primary caretaker for their kids and is responsible for most household expenses, including the mortgage.
He won't even go on vacation with
her and the kids. Before Christmas, he told her if she would file for a divorce, he would "gladly" sign the paperwork. She refused, but has the nerve to talk about somebody else.
On top of that, she's a "minister" who spends 70% of her time at church.
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Timolyn
Comment: Dayuum GIN....that's jacked up.
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dcdouglass01
Comment: Another example of ministers with too many dollar signs in their eyes. The BET Sunday show "Meet the Faith" just discussed this whole corporate, mega church ministry phenomenon. Of course with those type churches, when the pastor/bishop/prophetess is asking folks with $1000 offerings to stand in this line, those with $100 offerings to stand in that line, and those with less to give to remain seated as the plates will be around, it's just as likely they're concerned about their next $6000 rent payment as they are the building fund.
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DCGG
Comment: I'm sooo living for this drama, now watch some deranged azz followers of his still come out in his support...
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gingerg
Comment: It is so odd. She's highly skilled
in her field, but when it comes to domestic issues, it is like her brain works in real slow motion. She can't figure anything out and doesn't even watch the news or read the newspaper. I honestly believe her husband thinks she is stupid and treats her accordingly. When she gets up the nerve to complain, he reminds her "You knew what kind of n I was when you married me." Often, in front of the kids. The drama and resulting late arrivals/unscheduled absences and testiness with co-workers has cost her at least two promotions.
If/when she does get up enough nerve to divorce him, he's going to take her to the cleaners. I have an uncle who is the same way. He's lived with his girlfriend for over ten years, but is now collecting alimony from his ex-wife, will get part of her large retirement account and part of the proceeds from the house that she pays the mortagage on. Why? Because she stayed married to him despite the situation. It doesn't do him any good because he spends every dime he gets on at the race track.
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archcookies
Comment: test
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Teigh
Comment: "If you dance to the music...you've got to pay the piper" We're reading all this about Bishop Weeks, but I'm sorry Juanita Bynum isn't completely ignorant to this situation...she lived it right along with him. Truth the the extreme becomes error and apparently God is cleaning house....Pator Paula White and her husband, Juanita Bynum and her husband and Jamal Bryant, the married "intellectual minister" who managed to get a 17 year old pregnant.
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MissBee
Comment: And his dumb azz flock had the nerve to clap for him when he went back to church. Do black folk have any dayum brains?
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TJPhilly
Comment: Teigh- Is the girl in the Jamal case really 17? I heard that's a rumor....
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bigchassie
Comment: GINGERJ>Dayum, that is screwd up! girlfriend needs to take a look at her own house before she talks about somebody else. i know that's your cousin, but dang that is screwd! has anybody tried to talk to her about it?
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princessdrre
Comment: What you do in the dark will eventually come to light..... In a sense I feel sorry for Bynum - but only because she got stomped and the entire world knows about it. In another sense I don't feel sorry because as a "Prophetess" she should have seen it coming. Crass joke I know...but GOD sets them up and he brings them down... This should be a wakeup call for both of them!
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gingerg
Comment: Wait a minute, I listen to Jamal Bryant every week. What you trying to say? I hadn't heard that.
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gingerg
Comment: Chassie, it does no good. She also stays on the phone almost non-stop with some of those church sisters.
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khufu
Comment: Thoughts to consider....."let he who is without sin cast the first stone...."
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khufu
Comment: "If having a perfectly clean house is the pre-requisite for anyone to speak out about anything or address any issue, then no one but Christ would have qualified.."
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khufu
Comment: "We are all in the midst of our own personal Armageddon and jihad...."
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khufu
Comment: Okay that's it for now...question: at what point does "reporting" become a smear campaign---intentionally or unintentionally?
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khufu
Comment: DC I saw that on KEEP THE FAITH...the brother who was a minister came off as a pimp.....
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Exmun
Comment: Brandon, legally speaking you are incorrect. A debt of a husband (to the extent it is not a joint debt) is NOT (legally) the debt of the wife. A creditor cannot take the wife's property to recover the obligation of a husband unless the wife also is obligated on the debt. A judgment against a wife may, in some cases and in some states affect a wife, because the judgment creditor may garnish wages or %*$ets (if permitted by state law) that may be jointly owned by the husband and wife. However, most state have restrictions on how much of that joint %*$et the judgment creditor may obtain... so it's not as automatic as your post indicated.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >khufu - we can throw rocks and boulders at this knucklehead if we want to. It's an opinion page, for goodness sake! As for this guy - all I kept thinking while I was reading was who was he buying Tiffany & Co. stuff besides his wife? It stuck out to me. And, I cannot believe they were leasing a home in Atlanta. I used to live down there. Everyone owns homes down there because they are so cheap. Why would they lease a freakin' mansion? What an idiot. I cannot imagine following someone who cannot manage his finances or his marriage. What do these mega-idiots do to encourage such a blind following??? Is there hypnosis in the music? Funny Kool-aid? And speaking of Kool-aid - this guy doesn't have Kristal taste w/a beer salary, he had Kristal taste w/a Kool-aid salary if he doesn't own the home and can't pay the rent - that's some section 8 mess if I ever heard it!
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TJPhilly
Comment: Gingerg- do a google search for his name and type in the word "baby" in your search. you'll get all the details.
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khufu
Comment: SHo' you can Queenie...all Im saying is that "rock throwers may have to duck..."
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Timolyn
Comment: I am %*$!ed with EUR web everytime I try to post it takes me back to the sign on screen is this happening with anyone else.
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Cappaucino
Comment: Smokie1 what email? What did it say?
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DoctorSmooth
Comment: >>>>Gingerg, TJPhilly, ....Apparently the Jamal Bryant thing is true. I was told the church board sat him down for a month because of it, but he's back preaching again. Word is that the girl had a miscarrriage, but i dont know how true that is. What we do know for sure is that nobody's taking at his church . Everybody at his church knows somethings up, and of course, some know a lot more than others, but they're being very tight lipped. A little bit has leaked out, but not much. Even The Baltimore Sun has had reporters trying to snoop around and get some information on it, but all they're hearing is "no comment" from everybody.
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Timolyn
Comment: Ok....I went out and looked up Jamal Bryant. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I read. This is from a paternity suit that was back in 2001 which Bryant has acknowleged. I have not found nothing that states he fathered a child in the last year.
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Timolyn
Comment: I got through....yeah
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Synthia
Comment: Who wrote the headline? A 4-year-old?
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DoctorSmooth
Comment: This is a shame. How are u going to teach and preach financial blessings and your own financial houise is a mess? I live in Atlanta so I know - they could have gotten a nice 4 bedroom house for like 300-350K, and their montly payments would have been about $2,500 a month, well within their means. Between their church salary and their speaking engagements , they should easily be able to afford that. I know Juanita Bynum can collect 5k-10,000 per event, between speaking fees and love offerings., and that's being conservative . they can even get more at a major conference, with book and tape sales added on to that. I just dont understand how anybody can rent a house and not pay the rent for over a year, even though they're making a living and collecting an income. This kind of stuff bothers me. Theres nothing wrong with a a Pastor living in a modest house, driving a Honda, and living within their means. Their church members do it all the time. They can do it too. Lets hope they get their act together. I still wish them the best, although their situation is just looking messier and messier now.
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BlkATLTop
Comment: I knew something was up when I heard he was being "evicted", not foreclosed from his home. Yes, this is indeed a mess. Hopefully, the couple will be able to put a lid on this before things boil over any further. Things will get worse before they get better as his court date (Sept 7) is quickly approaching.
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Timolyn
Comment: DOCTOR>>>>I hear you, but who in their right mind would let that kinda money go for a year end without being collected. Anyone know just reading an apartment if you have not paid rend in 60 days they are ready to evict you. This when on for a year before someone said hey they have not paid rent in a year let's collect or evict than collect.
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bigchassie
Comment: TIMOLYN>yes, i'ts happening with me. QUEENIE>i didn't know you can lease a mansion either.
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gingerg
Comment: Philly, now I have heard everything.
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gingerg
Comment: Doctor, don't they also have 3/4 other churches as well? If I was Juanita, I would have my doctor prescribe something that would keep me floating for at least a week.
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Brandon
Comment: Exmun> Perhaps things are different in the county where Weeks and Bynum live, but in Cook County (Chicago), even when a couple is divorcing, %*$ets and debts that both parties utilized are divided. According to this article, they're talking about a house and a car, among other things. In this case, unless they've been separated for years - she used the house and the car, so she should be just as responsible for paying the bill.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >bigchassie - I knew you could lease a mansion. What I was saying is why would you do it when houses are so cheap in that area of the country. Celebrities lease mansions all the time before buying something. I just figured that an ostentatious couple like them would buy a home and have it tricked out. It is very interesting to me how much "churched" people covet money. Church people are some of the most ostentatious, greedy, stingy, pretentious, in debt people I have ever met. I go to church so I am not one of those people who is talking against a group I don't "fellowship" with. It is just my observation overall in my 10 years going to church. It is very sad because people like this are the reason why so many people scoff at going to church. I used to be that way, too. I will say that there are churches that preach/teach financial responsibility and there are church leaders who model financial responsibility for their congregations. You just have to work at it to find such a church but they do exist. They aren't fictitious like unicorns! LOL!
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SilentJay
Comment: Shaksephere once wrote "The fault is not in the stars dear Brutus but in ourselves". I think its high time we take a hard look in the mirror and recognize that a small part of this is our fault. Now before you jump down my throat just ponder what I'm about to say next. How far have we come as a people? Are we measuring with a ruler based on social progress and economic opportunity or are measuring are strides on how much we've gained materialisticly. Weeks if not the first black man to ascend to the pulpit only to fall as a result of his own folley and he won't be the last. I submit to you strong inteligent black people that Weeks is product if dare I say a
victim of his environment. I'm saying that perhaps these Frankensteins are monsters that were put together by parts of our own collectivve common sense and the ideas and beliefs we've traded in trying have living symbols of prosperity among us to look up to. Black people in American may have a different history thant most other groups of Americans but we are still Americans which means we are just as easily swayed or should I say hypnotized by the almighty god cleverly disguised as George Washington. Like I said I'm preparing to get hated for saying this, bring it on if you want but let just come out and say it. We lost something after disegregation we traded in somethings to get closer to some one elses' definition of American sucess. Now amogst all the good men and women in the black church we a few not so good men. We've allowed these not so good men to lead us to believe that getting closer to God means buying them a Phantom(or Chrysler 300 that looks like a Phantom untill a Phantom pulls up) now we see Weeks is in money trouble Weeks already had problems that he himself created but this problem is just one sympton of a greater illness that your favorite Doctor Silentjay has diagnosed as blackpplluvmnytomuchidis. I'm working on cure even as we speak.
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oldschoolbrother
Comment: How many people come on this site and in the past have given these thieves money? Or your friends or your family members who are down to their last nickle because some "shyster" pastor has told them that a envelope will be in the mail because of the offering they just gave? When will many black people learn and make adjustments on your own? And people wonder why there are many black men NOT in churches today.
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bigchassie
Comment: QUEENIE>yeah, i was thinking the same thing. you supposed to have the money, you can buy a mansion. apparently, that is not the case.
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Timolyn
Comment: OLD>>>>>Not me. I'm definitely not one of them.
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gingerg
Comment: I have several relatives who just get caught up in the whole emotional whirlwind. It is also a good form of escape and you can be around people of like mind. Though there are many good churhes and pastors, sometimes, it is like a trap. I can count the ones in my city who speak out on social issues outside the church. They are too afraid of offending someone, not being appointed to a symbolic post or being left off the guest list for some fancy affair.
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SpecialK
Comment: Is it just me or does Weeks look like Joe Jackson's son? LOL!! This is just the tip of the iceberg. Watch and see all the skeltons that fall out of that closet when the door is opened all the way. Weeks needs to go somewhere and get serious counseling for every aspect of his life.
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Timolyn
Comment: SPECIAL>>>>>LOL He does favor him...lol
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Train
Comment: What's even worst than Week's self inflicted downfall is his congregation condoning him beating on his wife. Just think of those young brothas and sisthas at that church thinking that b.s. that the devil made him do it and that it's okay to beat your wife.
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Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: Hmmmmmm... the plot thickens. I'm just speculating, but maybe all of his debt is the reason for their separation. Maybe he wanted her to "help him out" and she did, for a while, but got tired and told him to start pulling his weight. Maybe when they met to reconcile, he asked her to help him out a bit longer, and she told him no. Maybe that let to the argument and subsequent beating. It could happen. At any rate, Weeks is a scrub, and needs to be punished to the full extent of the law. What a loser. And Bynum needs to go through with divorcing this fool, take some time to reflect, and take the blinders off when the next relationship comes around. I'm sure she knew his financial status before she married him, but thought it would be OK. A deadbeat is a deadbeat, marriage will not change that. She needs prayer and counseling.
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khufu
Comment: celeb? minister? televangelist? It's getting hard to tell the diference
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Train
Comment: Black folks need to look in the mirror if they're looking for a leader and not some preacher. I know that some of holy rollers will get %*$!ed at me for keeping it real but I don't give a f'uck.
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Timolyn
Comment: Well now maybe we should understand the "beat down". Could it have been due to Juanita not paying his debts that he consistently ran up. I guess he thought money was going to drop out of the sky.....lol
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Timolyn
Comment: I know that's right TRAIN....
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Calidee
Comment: >>>>SilentJay
Great comments. I like your style of writing.
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gingerg
Comment: People who engage in this kind of herd thinking, as if they are incapable of forming a single, logical, sound opinion on their own, lend credence to some of the worst stereotypes that have been lodged about us collectively.
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gingerg
Comment: Tim, all of this has got to be embarrassing for Juanita. Not only did she get her azz stomped, now everyone is going to know that she has been fronting and taking care of a broke man.
That said, I take these messages at face value and apply the good lessons that I hear. I will say that I get tired of some of the cliches about breakthroughs and so forth. There are certain buzz words that come up way too often.
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Exmun
Comment: Brandon, I was talking about the debt from the standpoint of the creditor. Creditor X cannot legally require Wife to pay for a debt of Husband. This is true for most if not all states. HOWEVER, you are correct that in the context of a divorce, a court will look at the marital %*$ets and debts and apportion the debts and %*$ets between husband and wife. And only then the Wife may be obligated to pay for some or all of a husband's debt. All I'm saying is that the Creditor cannot collect a debt in Husband's name from the Wife if the couple remains married. Your scenario would probably be correct if the couple is divorcing. But even then, it's incredibly difficult to convert a "judgment" to the name of another person (read: generally impossible).
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Smokie1
Comment: Cappaucino/BlkATLTop - it is an email that makes you think about their situation and the mess that has insued that has gotten them there. It is an analogy that compares her to Jezebel. When I get home today I will try to post some it here so that you can read it.
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gingerg
Comment: How somebody going to compare a prohetess to Jezebel? Wasn't the man already separated and almost divorced when they met? Also, he knew about her past when they met.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >gingerg - Um, not to thump my Bible or anything but separated and divorced are very different marital status(es). Separated is still married. According to the Bible, messing with a married man is adulterous. Speaking as a regular person, messing with a "married but separated" peron is also stupid because you always run the risk of said MARRIED person going back to his/her spouse. Speaking as a Christian who is already weary of these "pimp-ish leaders", I think it was very bad judgment to date a married man if she did, as a leader in the church. When you are a leader of anything, you are wise to avoid things that could in any way be perceived as inappropriate. Dating a married man fits that description.
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gingerg
Comment: TD Jakes has weighed in on the issue of domestic violence in a column in today's Atlanta Journal Constitution.
I'm not sure I agree with this part "If pastors or service providers counsel the victim or perpetuator, it is important that they do not allow priveleged information to go public.
People do not confide in leaders who talk." What is up with this code of silence?
Even a psychiatrist has a mandate to reveal information in which people's lives may be at risk or someone has admitted to committing a crime.
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Train
Comment: Bishop Jakes was wrong in his article in the AJC because it appears to be the religious version of "Stop Snitching" which has plagued the inner cities for years and prevents crimes from being solved and what Rev. Weeks did was a crime, plain and simple. A black woman is to be loved, adored, admired and respected, not used as a punching bag and any cat that does this is WEAK, just like Rev. Weeks (get it). Hopefully his wife will get herself together and leave this bum and although I'am not holding out hope on this one but I hope that his congregation will come to their senses and realize that their pastor is a very weak and triffling cat who's not a man and leave his church or get a replacement. Not doing anything will give the impression that they condone wife beating and with the young brothas and sistahs in their church that's a bad and horrible message to send.
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gingerg
Comment: I agree with that, Queenie. I was joking. When she found out he was married, she should have told him that there was no way in HE11 God sent him, so he needs to keep stepping. The bible says you reap what you sow and I have lived long enough to know that it is true.
My brother is the product of a liasion with a married man and he has been in some situations that have left my mom stressed to the max.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >gingerg - counseling professionals have the legal duty to warn in dangerous situations. Religious leaders do not have the same obligation. Religious leaders are pretty much under the same blanket as lawyers - they can't say anything even if we think they should. I agree with you that people should be warned but their stance is that the point of going to a spiritual advisor for help goes out the window if you cannot trust him/her.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >gingerg - I would like to think that any good leader would advise the person he/she is counseling to not date as they go are being counseled. I would also think that the leader could get the word to the new person to watch out discreetly without going into details. I would hope that a hint to the person would go out to be careful or something like that. But that's just my hope...
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gingerg
Comment: A lot of this has to do with shame. Some people are just too embarrassed to admit that their home life isn't idyllic and if you're fronting in the church and allowing people to assume you are blessed and highly favored in all areas of your life, it can just be too hard to admit the truth to yourself or anyone else. However, I can't see staying there and being mistreated. I grew up around women who have done that all their lives (i.e., mom, sister, aunts, cousins). I figure there has got to be a better way.
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Vipereen
Comment: Looking at that expensive wedding made me feel, as a Christian, that the focus was more material than a spiritual union. I felt that it sent the wrong message for true love is priceless and isn't for show but forever. True love is for the bad times as well as the good times. True love is felt more than seen. Our Christian leaders will be held accountable for misleading others who are following their teachings.
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bigchassie
Comment: i tell yall (especially those who read the book by Kimbrella Lawson Roby "CASTING THE FIRST STONE")this thing has all the smellings of pastor Curtis Black! hey ladies, yall remember him?
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gingerg
Comment: Vipereen, I think the message of the wedding was "look what God can do." However, it was a facade and you know Weeks didn't pay for it.
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bigchassie
Comment: ooh yall are right! he DOES look like Joe Jacksons illigitamite son! oooh Joe! you were messing around on Catherine? or was he before Catherine? lol!
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DoctorSmooth
Comment: Ginger... I think the (million dollar) wedding was paid for by the Trinity Broadcasting Network, not Bynum and Weeks themselves.
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CrazzeeGyrl
Comment: I betcha' this is why he kicked her butt. She wouldn't give him any money. She could've paid these bills without blinking an eye>>>>>>>>>>BIGCHASSIE - Curtis Black was no joke. LOL!!! You are right, this does put you in the mindset of his story. I read all three and the third one he was a changed man. Let's hope Weeks will become a changed man. He needs some serious counseling.
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DoctorSmooth
Comment: I feel like this. God can use this stuff to be a wake up call to any pastors or ministers who are not handling their business right. Cus what is in the darkness will come to the light eventually. Let this be a warning to any preacher/pastor who is not handling his money right , or cant keep his domestic affairs in order. Whether in this life or the next, that stuff will be exposed and embarras you before all.
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6footah
Comment: Queeniebunz is a "friend in my head". Half the time I don't post my comments, b/c she's already hit the nail on the head. Hmph..I guess I better type faster if I want to have her co-sign me sometimes! :)
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Timolyn
Comment: BIGC>>>>u hit it on the head. As I stated earlier Rev. Curtis Black even though fictional is prime example of these "mega" churches. Kimberla was on Meet the Faith yesterday, which the topic was on mega churches. Kimberla also brought Rev. Black back in other books to continue this story re: mega churches.
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khufu
Comment: Rev Jakes needs to weigh in on: the illegal war in Iraq, homosexuality, the corrupt American corporate and political system, fornication, Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome......
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Crazeegirl, I thought married people maintained joint accounts or is that a thing of the past. I would spend what I wanted to spend.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Name: Vipereen
Comment: Looking at that expensive wedding made me feel, as a Christian, that the focus was more material than a spiritual union...........okay, the dress did it? How about the cars and the houses and the bling and the big ole mega-building?
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gingerg
Comment: gyrl, he wasn't changed that much in the last book. It ended with him having a child with another woman and paying her off. Also, he demonic "daughter" died in a fall down the stairs like the exorcist or something and his wife stayed with him, in part, because of the lifestyle and her guilt over misleading him about the daughter being his.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: I'm going to start watching Meet The Faith.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Are there any ministers publicly addressing: The end of the world?...The downfall of America as modern day Babylon?....Evil azz george Bush?......How capitalism has co-opted the church?......Homosexuality?....any Minister besides Farrakhan?
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gingerg
Comment: Wait a minute. I'm wrong. I can't just spend somebody else's money like it is going out of style, but if you want to draw the purse strings, you have to give me some type of advance notice - like 3 months, so that I can get myself together.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: ah yes....TRinity Broadcasting...the plantation
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Name:
thelildiva4u
Comment: khufu-please add the Jena 6 to the list... Hell it's happening in the state right next to his.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: kufu, and don't forget Katrina. He still hasn't said enough on that to suit me. I'm still waiting on Eddie Long to speak on this Bynum/Weeks mess.
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Name:
ladybyrd
Comment: I'm sure the debt belong to both of them. Just because it's in his name doesn't mean that he purchased it. Gingerg> I love Meet The Faith
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Timolyn
Comment: GIN>>>>my stepfather always told me... If I ever got married to only pool in so much of my money with my spouse and save at least $200 bi weekly for a rainy day. Rainy day meaning in case spouse and I split I will have some extra to fall back on. Well, needless to say I am not married yet, but I know quite a few girlfriends who are now divorced father's should have past that information on to them because they are struggling big time. Robbing Peter to pay Paul etc.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: If everyone's life was idyllic, there would be not need of a Saviour.....
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Kufu, I'm glad you brought up post traumatic slave syndrome, but look here. While I believe that we will always suffer the consequences of slavery and it's horrible aftermath, some of our wounds are simply self-inflicted. In Cleveland this past weekend, a 12-year-old black girl was shot in the neck and killed while coming back from the corner store. Two brothers were running down the street shooting at each other like it is the wild wild west. There was no white man in the mix.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: i find it interesting that none dem want to talk about Revelations anymore.....
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Name:
Timolyn
Comment: KHUFU>>>>>Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome...... Is this for real?
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CrazzeeGyrl
Comment: Gingerg - most couples have joint accounts but I know a lot that don't. They have the his & her thing going. If I'm not mistaking I think Bynum had a prenup for Weeks. I remember her saying when they got married she moved into his apartment and he had no furniture or bed. She slept on the floor with him, even though she had a place in NY. And no I ain't making that up. She said that in an interview.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: I hear you GINGER but the theory says that people who are insane do insane things...so the self-infliction is a symptom of the dysfunction......why do we expect sane actions from people who are clinically insane?
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Timolyn
Comment: GIN>>>>I love Meet the Faith. I just cleaned up my DVR with about a month in a half of Meet the Faith. except for yesterdays. I will watch tonight. Now I can say that is one of BET's shows I do enjoy watching.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: I know some broke married, people too. One couple always stays with relatives when traveling to save money on hotels. The man is in his mid-50's.
I'm like, get an Entertainment Card and save a bundle. Don't you want your privacy?
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Name:
khufu
Comment: TIM...read the book of the same title by Dr. Joy Leary...youre reallly late
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Name:
khufu
Comment: LOL diont you know that it is insane for a person to walk around calling themselves by names that are not their own? names that were inherited from their slave masters..that is insanity and against the natural and GOD GIVEN RIGHT of Self-definition........
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Name:
khufu
Comment: LOL dont you know that it is insane for a person to continually get their azzes kicked and stomped and mistreated (like a dog) and never defend themselves? Instead what that person does is become even more loyal to the person kicking their azz...instead the person turns on other people getting their azzes kicked and start kicking their azzes........
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Yep Black folks are clinically insane...made so by social and historical events (slavery)...so again: why do we expect sane and rational behavior from people who are clinically insane?
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Say what, Gyrl!? If that is true, he is not the only nut in that household. I'm telling you, the woman was so desperate to get married that she was willing to settle for anything, now look. Too many women see marriage as a form of validation of their worth. In Bynum's case, it was like you are attractive, have wealth and success, but why can't you get a man (any man will do). Unfortunately, that is the mentality of some sisters and it is what keeps others in miserable "relationships."
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Name:
khufu
Comment: whereas yt is just crazy by birth...........
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Name:
khufu
Comment: GINGER you saing there was no YT in the mix...you really dont understand do you? Listen: if a little girl is sexually abused from the ages of 6 and 12 by let's say a man named "GB"...she grows up and now she's 26. She has dysfunctional relationships with men; tries women; gets on drugs.......GB dies 20 years ago......Can of her dysfunction be attributed to "GB"?.....remember now: he's not around......
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Timolyn
Comment: KHUFU>>>>I guess I am late. CRAZEE>>> r u serious. She married him knowing he was broke down. Even though she made him sign a pre-nup. Well, she should not be surprise with what is coming out now. He!!, if I call myself dating a man and he's looking fly everytime we go out, he is flashing money and I finally go to his place of living and he is sleeping on the floor....well that's the red flag right there. Me personally, I would have left then. I have this t-shirt that says "I can not stand a broke-azz grown man."
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Name:
khufu
Comment: o I agree..it's about choice and self-responsibility...but what is one's ability to reason and make decisions has been skewed? How can a people make wise, rational and sound choices if their powers of reasoning have been fooked up?
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Name:
khufu
Comment: The Bynum situation is a product of insanity...Black folks following preachers to hell.......same....women obsessed with dyck....same...Black men obsessed with puzzy.....same...Black people killing one another....same..Black people denying theyre AFrican....same....Black folks slaving for YT but not doing anything to empower the Black community....Insane...Black folks slaving for Yt and spending all their money with Yt or non-Black folks all the time.....same....and on and on until most of the things Blacks folks do are deemed and revealed as behavior of a people suffering from Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome....a mental illness
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Name:
Timolyn
Comment: KHUFU>>>>I say yes she can contribute her dysfunctional to GB, but now that she understands where that stems from she can now go forward and better herself of the dysfunctional demon. I believe the key word is understanding. When I was 8-9 years old I was "almost" raped by a family member, but fortunately I fought him off and the rape never took place. I do not feel that...that incident scarred me for life.
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Name:
CrazzeeGyrl
Comment: Ginerg/Timolyn - I didn't make it up. I was shocked about that. The other thing that shocked me was the fact that he wasn't not divorced when they met. She said she stepped back so he could "handle his business". I guess they got back together when his divorce was final. She completely amazed me. When I saw "No More Sheets" that thing had me in tears. It was good to see a "sista" overcoming. But when I heard about these two situations I wondered what was really going on. With all that she had I was really surprised that she settled for him with all that he was dealing with. There's nothing wrong with a man not having as much as she has but he really didn't appear to bring much to the table but his bow tie and genitals. I never heard of him until she was going to marry him. So I figured she was the one that brought him notoriety. Oh well. He must've been laying some good pipe.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: I hear you, kufu, but we can't blame everything on the white man. If we do, it suggests that we agree with the depiction of ourselves as lazy, dumb and incapable of thinking or acting without their direction. Not so.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Bow tie and genitals?!!! LOL!! I'm of the opinion that a man needs to bring more than his name to the table. I already have a name that I like. Show me something else.
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Name:
Timolyn
Comment: CRAZEE/GIN>>>>I guess he had to be laying some good pipe and I guess you can say tongue too. I was watching a show over the weekend were they were talking about how women blk/wht can be blinded by the dyck. Oh well, I need more than just a wet azz.
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Name:
queeniebunz
Comment: >6footah - thanks for the compliment. You got there first about the reality shows! :)...but really, there are a few of us on here who have some sense and actually bring well-thought out, shrewd, intelligent comments to this board. Sure it is about fun and entertainment but some of this stuff is very serious and we have to treat it as such.
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Name:
SilentJay
Comment: Thanks Calidee
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Tim, it is more than that. Emotional and financial dependence are the real issues along with fear of what "society" will say if you break up. I know couples who don't have a good romantic connection, but stay together anyway.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Oh, TMZ is reporting that Halle Berry really is three months pregnant.
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Name:
SpecialK
Comment: You reap what you sow and evidently Weeks sowed some bad seeds!
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: GINGERJ>well if she is preggers, it will be a pretty baby.but then, TMZ will say the sky is falling. i would like to hear it from Halle herself to confirm.
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Name:
Kyenn
Comment: I always say Jesus was into service, not showing off. I agree that his members should pray for him. But they do not have to be blind and let kim continue to run the church. How can you justify preachers living in luxary while the people are going to hell. And what's with the title bishop? I was raised AME, and a bishop is one who oversees an entire reagion of churches. Where are the other churches that reconize him as bishop of their ministers?
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Name:
Smokie1
Comment: I have tried to post some of the blog but I am not able to. The blog is called G. Craige Lewis Blog. Look it up and read it. It is the Aug. 27th blog. It is very thought provoking.
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