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Name:
goodnplenty1957
Comment: Ok..if this is true..my question to him is...what dance did YOU look at first to and your "own" steps? If i take a Continential Mark III (YEAH I AM OLD SCHOOL),,put a Rolls Royce grill on it and a kit, i still got a Contintental Mark III. How do we know you didnt watch another dance and put your own to it? not playa hatin!
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NueNue
Comment: Uh so you sue people who dont do it right? thats ignorant. you cant sue someone for modifying a dance. thats like people getting mad at folks for modifing "crank that soljah boy" people do what they want.
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fanteeking
Comment: If I ain't mistaken, this is the guy the GREAT Apollo theatre M. C. for many years and dancing legend Mr. Honey Coles of the Coles & Atkins Dance Team, saw at a performance and walked out because Silver's dancing was horrible.
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PlanetRock
Comment: ...then the originator of "The Bus Stop" should sue this guy (LOL)
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bigfriend
Comment: okay so? Is it impossible that he created the dance or something similar and it has morphed into what it is today? No. I see the problem. It is because white people are not supposed to be able to dance, that must be it. He was a profession dancer no dude must be able to dance. Do I think he has a copyright on every dance mentioned in the story? hmmmm but we don't know. Not important to me for sure.
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DrKnowItAll
Comment: I simply don't believe this... This dance has been around forever and only now is this guy claiming to be inventor.. Yeah right.. I simply don't believe him... and if the copyright is as flimsy as it sounds, he is really pushing the limits of the law by suing people for doing the dance wrong?? I have never seen a white man pass up a chance to take credit for inventing something black people love and identify with.. Next he's gonna take credit for breakdancing, Chicago Steppin", and crumpin too....
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Name:
Simone
Comment: I'm not sure how much of this I believe. It's interesting, but not important enough for me to go research. And I think they were just kidding about him suing people for doing it wrong. Because if not, then he should start by suing damn near everybody on that instructional video clip! LOL
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Name:
Sexee
Comment: Thanks for the history lesson; I never gave thought on who created this dance with various spin-offs. If a white man would of came out capitializing on the dance, I would have investigated. But since he didn't challenge it through conventional means (TV)I turned a deaf ear to it... It's always nice to know the originator... (coming from a Casper slider enthusiast). LOL
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Man, fucc that...My Grandfather Bootdamus Bootus created that sh1t...We we're at my aunt Bootaline Bootus wedding and gramps went to plug in the deep fryer...he was gonna fry up some wings...He stepped in some old english that my uncle Bootroy Bootus spilled on the floor...That drunk muthafuccer was always spilling sh1t...All of a sudden gramps started moving all funny and sh1t...We thought he was dancing but in reality he shocked himself....Yo, we just joined in cause gramps was turning that sh1t out...Look, I ain't trying to sue no dayum body 'cause we all do the dance a lil different...The Bootus family rock that joint the best though...I wish that white cat would bring that BS over here...He didn't create sh1t!!!!We called it the Bootdamus shuffle...White folks always tryna steal sh1t from Black folks...Dayum!!!
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Name:
McNasty
Comment: Sorry y'all but everybody knows white folks have no rhythm and are good at taking things and putting their stamp on it so I'm gonna let this slide cause for damn sure I don't believe it!
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Name:
1st2worst
Comment: Wow, I don't know how old this cat is, but line dancing has been around since the 50's. Now I can't speak for everywhere else, but in Baltimore I remember watching my parents and aunts and uncles do "The Madison" when I was a kid. They used to have madison parties. I went to a hand to hand graduation a few months ago, and the madison was the line dance they had to learn to do in order to graduate. Did he teach Chubby Checker how to do the "Twist"?
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HarrisThomas
Comment: let's see: Electric Slide, break dancing in clubs (as opposed to break dancing on the street), the Robot, and pop locking are all the choreographic work of a YT male who says that he is attempting copy right the correct way to do the Electric Slide . . . and oh, the Slide must be done to get into heaven during the Rapture . . . [sigh] be careful out there, somebody will be laying claim to your dreams, fantasies and assorted other mental meanderings
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Name:
cookyd
Comment: It's possible a white man wrote "The Twist" and showed Chubby Checker how to do it and the rest is history.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: okay.....damn...yt dont want us to have sheet! LOL tell you what.....let's all find out where he lives...show up at his crib....40 000 strong....and electric slide in front of his house as protest and dare his azz to come outside and say something....we will beat his azz down and then
electric slide all over his face!!
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khufu
Comment: I have a question:
where do dances originate?
there have been times in the past that I would dance in my own unique way and I swear it seems that after a while that dance I was doing became a national dance.....
some theorize that dances just kind of happen at several places simultaneously
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ChocolateBrownGal
Comment: Hey YT Man....Try to imagine how little I care.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: These cracks done went crazy! Given their history, the only slide they are capbable of creating is on the freeway straight to hell.
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Name:
Supal
Comment: better yet...who cares!
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bigchassie
Comment: you know it's interesting. back in the 70's we used to do dances named after yt folks with no Rythum and they were some of the sharpest dances going around. the Jed Clampet, The Charlie Brown, the Errol Flynn, but the baddest dance around was...THE PATTY DUKE! we used to do it to Brick's "Dazz"
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khufu
Comment: BIGCHASSIE...Jed Clampett was Black.....as was the fine sistah Ellie Mae!
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bigchassie
Comment: now if that white man said that he also invented the dance "The Funky Chicken" and The Football, and the Funky Four Corners and The Popcorn, Rufus Thomas and James Brown was gonna jump out of their graves and kick his azz! lol!
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khufu
Comment: CHOCOLATE GIRL..this is an important issue believe it or not (Well, academically it is):
Who owns the means, methods and processes of cultural production and cultural reproduction?
How does white cultural supremacy manifest itself in the creation, perpetuation and preservation of art and cultural products?
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bigchassie
Comment: KHUFU: *sounding like Uncle Jed* WELLLL DOGGGIEE!! get on the good foot!
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khufu
Comment: ChocolateBrownGAL...yep..it really is that deep......historically, artistically, culturally and economically...
look at the history of Black art in America....we create the dances and they co-opt them
we create the music and they co-opt them...
e.g. Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis, The Charleston, Kenny G, Michael Bolton, Benny Goodman....
this sheet goes on and on and on....
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khufu
Comment: BIGCHAS and lo at Ellie Mae...those jeans......and Granny was a Black woman ...you know that...her temperment, her attitude, her willingness to whoop p on someone's azz
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Southernbelle
Comment: MOTHERSHIP>who is this fool and is he truely who he says he is? I mean if he's a yt guy teaching black folks how to dance then I know he must be very popular in New York. Heck, that's so rare he should be very popular throughtout the U.S.
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bigchassie
Comment: but you know, i didn't know you could copywright a dance step.
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Name:
tester70
Comment: Am I doing "The Hustle" wrong too? OMG who knows? LMAO This dude is smoking, he is looking for a check from TP...let's see if you really think about it the dance that "we" do is 18 steps not the 22 he copyrighted according to him then it's NOT the dance he created; therefore he can't sue.
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indipindintthnkr
Comment: Boots, yous a fool!!!! That shat got me laughin out loud and tears coming out my eyes
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khufu
Comment: BIGCHASSIE..fyi
Copyright of Choreographic Works
by Julie Van Camp
Choreographic works have been expressly copyrightable since January 1, 1978, the effective date of the Federal Copyright Law of 1976. (1) Previously, some choreographic works had been eligible for copyright, but only under the category of dramatic and dramatico-musical works. (2)
Although numerous choreographers have registered their copyrights in the past fifteen years under the new Copyright Law, (3) to date only one case for the infringement of a copyrighted choreographic work has reached the Federal courts. In this 1986 decision, Horgan v. MacMillan, Inc., (4) the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit analyzed, for the first time, several key issues regarding the copyright of choreographic works. As the Court noted, "Explicit federal copyright protection for choreography is a fairly recent development, and the scope of that protection is an uncharted area of the law." (5)
In Horgan v. MacMillan, Barbara Horgan, as executrix of the estate of George Balanchine, (6) brought an action against MacMillan publishers for infringement of the copyright on Balanchine's Nutcracker. Horgan sought a preliminary injunction to stop publication of a book that MacMillan was about to publish containing photographs of Balanchine's Nutcracker. (7) . The U.S. District court denied the injunction on the grounds that the photographs did not infringe the copyrighted choreography. (8) Horgan appealed this decision to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. The Appeals Court held that the lower court had used the wrong test for infringement, reversed the decision, and remanded (sent back) the case to the lower court for further proceedings, using the correct infringement test. At that point, the parties settled out of court. (9) Even so, the decision of the Appeals Court, a case of "first impression," provides important guidance on legal principles for the infringement of copyrighted choreographic works.
The Horgan decision, as well as the Copyright Law of 1976, has been scrutinized by many legal scholars from a strictly legal perspective. Many publications for lay readers have summarized the provisions of the law, especially the requirements for registering a copyright. My purpose here is to review this fifteen-year history from the perspective of dance scholarship. I am interested especially in precedents set in the Horgan decision /p. 60 which are of importance for the community of dance scholars. I am also interested here in issues not resolved by this case. I will suggest important roles for the community of dance scholars in addressing these issues, especially in their capacity as expert witnesses in future cases.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: for additional info BIGCHASS...
http://www.csulb.edu/~jvancamp/copyrigh.html
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Name:
dcdouglass01
Comment: "...the dance that...slipped through every definable peephole of time, and continue to unite people on the dance floor and give them...a sense of power and individuality...." How does a group dance give one a sense of individuality? Also the white man said "'rebel' is Spanish for 'egg'." That makes him a fool out the gate (the Spanish word for "egg" is "huevo"), so why is Lee Bailey wasting his time with this nut case, who also adds that he invented Break Dancing and the Robot? Now I'm wondering if Bailey is losing his own mind.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Southernbelle, I don't know who dude is. I know that D.J. Hollywood created the Patti Duke and the Freak Dance.
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realuvbaby
Comment: Why wait 25 years of everybody doing to wrong to correct/sue? Is the statute of limitations running out or something? And I'm cracking up at Bootane and khufu. Dang Granmama done dead and gone and we didn't know she was doing it wrong . . . now what we go'on do?
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TesticAl
Comment: WHOA! A thread about the Electric Slide? Tha fuckk? This shyt is beyond old. The dance was "decent" back in the day but it is totally wack now. You know a dance is wack when old people can do it with no problem. *skip walks out of the room*
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beboyz
Comment: Aint the Hustle a Line Dance. He didn't invent the hustle??? This guy is nuttier than can of mixed nuts. He also seems a lil fruity after reading his resume. Fruit and nuts what a combination.
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bigchassie
Comment: AND ANOTHER STUPID THING...why did Lee Baily go to a freakin website trying to find somebody to show him how to do the electric slide?? he could have called his cousin and nem! and he conjured up this crazy fool!
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bigchassie
Comment: MOTHERSHIP>oh yeah? i love to do the Patty Duke! it's a cute dance. i used to like to see the guys do it. especially if he was a tall good lookin brotha with Sergio Valente Jeans on....i'm showing my age, huh? lol! but that's alright! I CAN STILL JAM! HITIT! *brick music comes on with Dazz, she starts doing the Patty Duke* i wonder did Patty Duke ever found out that a dance was named after her?
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: this man looks like George C Scott.
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Name:
brainuser1
Comment: dcdouglass01, when I get on the dancefloor with the group to do the Electric Slide, I and everybody else is addin' our own little stuff here and there to make it my own. I believe THAT'S what the writer meant about the "individuality" statement. That's what makes it so much fun, no matter how old and corny the dance is.
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Name:
PHScott
Comment: Dance is about expression. If you want robotics, you don't want dance. So, Black folks are doing a variaton of YOUR Electric Slide, which is a variation of The Bus Stop, which is a variation of the several "Hustles" we were doing back in the day. Example: Silver's step has a hop, we do a turn. The turn is smoother, which is how we dance: smooth. Just like I didn't like the shuffle most people do. I got mine off with a James Brown slide. Thankfully, I quit doing this thing years ago. Time for someone to come up with a new "line dance"...
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Name:
Calidee
Comment: Hey Ya'll
I invented the bump and the cabbage patch.
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Name:
SaintAlbansGirl
Comment: Interesting, when I originally learned this dance, it was called "the bus stop" later folks called it the "electric slide" and I thought "electric slide"? this is the "bus stop" oh well. Does anybody else know this dance as the bus stop?
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Name:
Southernbelle
Comment: SaintAlbansGirl>The bus stop and electic slide are two different dances and I know for sure that it's the Bus stop that they were doing in Family Reunion.
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Name:
SweetieDarlin
Comment: SaintAlbansGirl> In Chicago it was the Charlie Brown in the early 70s and the BusStop in the late 70s. There is even a song by Charlie Green that calls out the steps, step by step and I know that was about 1978 or so. The Electric Slide looks similar but isn't the same thing, now there a bunch of variations such as the Caspar Slide.
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goodnplenty1957
Comment: so the white man invented dem dances?? even the FE-FI-FO-FUNKY-FO-CORNERS too? white folks swear up and down ELVIS invented his stuff and BO DEREK invented the cornrows.
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Name:
212121
Comment: 'Marsha Griffith / Bunny Wailer demo record called “The Electric Boogie” that had been given to him by a DJ friend in New York a few years earlier. '
The performer is Marcia Griffths and I think this guy has the date wrong. I do not think this song was recorded until the late eighties. Marcia G was a back up singer for Bob Marley around 78. I do not think she started to work as a solo artist until after Bob died.
This dude songs like serious nutball.
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Name:
katgrrrl
Comment: B00T, Bigchassie (hey, don't forget the PeeWee Herman!) et al: LMAOOOOOOO! <> It's only a matter of time before a yt man claims to have invented the afro...and the afro pick with the fist...and the Black Power movement...and Africa...and Good Times, Sanford & Son, The Jeffersons... (Ooops, scratch those last three. Thank you Norman Lear!)
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Zumbagirl
Comment: The E-Slide wasn't the first group step dance. On the West coast we used to do a "line dance" called The Hustle (not to be confused with the partner dance of the same name) in the early 70s before the Bus Stop and many years before the Electric Slide. Often done to the 11 min version of Marvin's Got To Give It Up. Any Cali folks remember that?
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Name:
edv9500
Comment: This dance is one that I did in college called the LA Hustle. This was back in 1974 and was very similar to the electric slide. I have friends who said it was the same as the bus stop from years ago. I guess now he will sue the cha cha slide, achy bracky heart and most recently the Cupid Shuffle. This may needs to quit, he is full of crap. He sounds like someone who just wants to make a buck
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Name:
Angel
Comment: OK...I can't follow this dude's logic. How in the world could he create the dance AFTER the song was made IF the song is ABOUT the dance?!? This song didn't get recorded until the '80s, but yet he claims to have created the dance off of the demo back in '75?!? The song talks about teaching the Electric Slide, so why did he feel the need to create a new electric slide.....but then I read the rest of the article. This dude is loonier than Bugs Buggy. LOL
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Name:
TMan
Comment: All I know is the first year I heard about The Electric Slide was 1989. But before then, all in the 70's I remeber seeing our folks doin somehing very similar at house parties.
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Name:
Kayla
Comment: Ummmm....all I have to say is it's about time we take something from them and put a stamp on it since they have stolen or tried to steal every invention black folks ever came up with. The only thing black folks did was perfect the stupid dance so if it used to be 22 steps and we have taken it to 18 steps then I'm sure the 18 steps are more logical:):):)
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Name:
BigSexy
Comment: Right dcduglass and huevo is pronounced "we" like the sound in wet and "voes" long o sound. "We-voes" Not rebel. He is crazy and will starting a cult soon. Doing the Electric Slide into Heaven! I've heard it all now!
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Name:
Angel
Comment: BigSexy - In addition, Huevo is now slang for crazy azz, no dancin', YT MFer. LOL
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: ZUMBA>actually the first line dance was called The Continental. my dad and my sister used to do it all the time in the living room. it was a smooth dance too. lol! hey, remember the Wattusi, the mashed potatoes,
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: i like to do the Cha-Cha Slide. that was one cool dance.
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Name:
BigSexy
Comment: Angel, that was too funny and true!
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Name:
stellababy5
Comment: Well I don't know anything about the
Electric Slide, till just a few years ago I had never heard of it.But I'm from the OL'Skool and back in 1974,1975
and 1976 we did something similar but
with a sexy sway to it and it was called the Bus Stop and I learned it by
way of all my fellow dancers on the dance floor in the Gay clubs.Yes it did
eventually get to the Straight Clubs but it was always called "The Bus Stop",never heard it called the Electric Slide until the late 90's to
early 2000's.Trust me when I say this,
the dance that we did was not made up
by a White man.Unless someone of Colour
took the dance and added our style to it and brought it to the dance floors
all over.Anyone who really wants to learn the The Bus Stop/Electric Slide
need only go to an African-American
dance where there is a big dance floor
and they play the song for the dance
you'll learn it easily.I learned on the
dance floor just like everyone else.And
this man sounds like an Idiot to sue someone who does not do it right.White
folks have been destroying some of our
dances for years because some just don't have that rythem that we have.If
anything he should be thanking us, because had it not been for us the
Electric Slide would be almost non-existent.Peace and Blessings!
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Name:
Kulchaman
Comment: if the dance is done different, that mean it does not belongs to him, do your version..
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Name:
duckapoo
Comment: This sad man has got to be the biggest liar ever. HE HAS INVENTED NOTHING.
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Name:
SaintAlbansGirl
Comment: Stellababy5,
Thank you I am definitely ol skool, but the bus stop was the original form of the electric slide. I live in NY so maybe regionally things were a bit different. Ol dude would have to claim credit for the bus stop in order to claim the electric slide. I hate these issue, white folks forever claim our works as theirs. We have to copyright our creativity. I can't take it. Everytime I see the VW commercial I want to scream. Is there anything we do that we can make the money off of instead of Madison AVe!!!
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