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Name: McNasty

Comment: No you wouldn't as I would glady sport the happy negro t-shirt. We've always known the mentality of the house negro and we knew that same house negro passed that mentality down to his own kids who went to white colleges and blended into white society virtually undetectable until now that a lot of black issues have come forward. Said house negro now feels obligated to team up with the grand kids of the grand wizard and with every word and deed not only support those grand kids but distance themselves from the very community they will come running to when the grand kids light a fire under their as.ses! Shame on you juan williams! But just like every other idiot in your position - those same chickens - when they come home to roost (and they will come home) by your very public support of block head o'reilly, will leave you standing in the yard looking miserably at how filthy they are.

Name: McNasty

Comment: . . at how filthy they are from the beating they took from the very people that may have supported them but for the things they were taught by the house negro.

Name: NYCsoul

Comment: Thank you Dr. Boyce! I'm sick of the likes of Juan Williams who puffs his chest out to tell us how bad we are and how we are ENTIRELY responsible for our predicament. But never has the guts to criticize those who have benefitted from the blood, sweat and tears of our ancestors who brought over against their will. I'm not saying that we don't have any responsiblity for some of the negative issues that are going on in our community. We have to be taken to task for that. But to not look at the larger picture is doing a disservice and letting YT off the hook. Great commentary Dr. Boyce!....McNasty> ITA with you!

Name: HarrisThomas

Comment: standing O for Dr. Boyce! . . . implicit in OReally's racist remarks is his understanding that AAs don't know socially acceptable behavior . . . in a world where everything affirms YTs and they believe the myth of their superiority, OReally's remarks are "harmless" due to his new found "discovery" . . . and we already ready know that nothing on the planet exists until YTs acknowledge it

Name: Kofi

Comment: I do watch Fox News Sunday just to see what the enemy is saying. Bret Hume, et al regurly beat up on Juan when he steps out of line. He made a comment about Sen. Thompsons trophy wife and they all blasted him on the air. The next week they read the hate mail blasting him once again. Something is very wrong with that "brotha."

Name: cdub

Comment: Okay DR. Boyce, You have made your voice loud and clear. I challenge you to open up a dialogue with Mr. Williams instead of dissing him on national television. Did you get your thrill off of that? Its now your 15 Minutes. I know you both might have more in common than you do differences. If not, you two could work for the common good of helping our folks! on the national level. We /They need your and his help. We are falling out of existence!! You will get sympathy on this board because this is where people of your ILK like to associate.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: CDUB..Sure it would be nice if Dr. Watkins did that. However, Juan Williams does not have a history of "making nice" with black folk he criticizes. I don't agree w/what Boyce said. I also don't recall Williams ever apologizing the lies he put in his book about Al Sharpton either..even when confronted about it. Juan is of the opinion that "his way" works. That's why he can go on O'Reilly and talk openly about the problems of black folk. O'Reilly agrees w/him 100% when he is critical. Maybe you should suggest that Juan have a conversation w/Al Sharpton. They too, can work for the common good of helping our folks on the national level. I respect that Watkins had enough intelligence to not just explain his comments but not back away from them. Why should he? Juan has no problems calling people poverty pimps and minstrels. So go head on w/that cuz insults cuts boths ways. And to see Williams on TV appalled. Appalled my azz! Now his feelings are hurt? Mthfka please.

Name: NYCsoul

Comment: Besides the fact that Juan Williams' 15 mins should be up, what has he or hasn't he done to for the 'good of helping his people'? If I'm wrong, then I'll say it. But for as long as Juan has been around, he has spent his entire 'career' dissing our folks, no matter what the issue is. There are some of us who are really not interested in 'helping' our folks and they need to be called out. We need to stop stroking and pacifying people who make it clear they are not about doing anything 'good' for us.

Name: cdub

Comment: That’s it we are not a monolithic people. If Jaun is the Happy Negro on TV then does that mean we need a Mad Negro on TV to balance the argument. I mean he cannot be all that bad if Tavis used him for the debate held at Morgan. Like it or not folks we need some fresh faces in this round of fighting if Dr. Boyce want to step up he must translate his intelligence into action

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: NYC..Juan Williams would say that he's disliked because of the way he chooses to discuss race. That he is not a race-baiter. That it's because he wants to have an open and honest conversation about race. Personally, I don't believe that engaging in "race discussions" w/people as polarizing a O'Reilly is ever the way to go. But oh no, black people have an affinity for thinking that if they are able to diss..I mean discuss their race while 'round yt folk, then they're on the "right side" of the argument. So, the closer we are to agreeing w/yt folk, the better of we'll be. Notice O'Reilly's comment about black people "thinking for themselves." That just meant.."thinking as yt folk do."

Name: cdub

Comment: musbdherbs, take the comment "thinking for themselves". For a while all we had was Jesse and Al. Although they have shortcomings they are now polarizing some in a good way, some bad but they are still in the fight. We need folks in the camp that is not afraid to think like YT.

Name: NYCsoul

Comment: cdub & musdherbs> I know black people are not 'monolithic' but neither are other races of people yet they find a way to come together for a common cause. That 'monolithic' argument does not work for me. And considering that we have been beaten in the head for 400 years to 'accept' YT's values and thought process, I don't see where the bravery is in 'thinking' like YT. It just like some of us who try to 'out' YT YT by approximating their speech and tone. How much more are we supposed to 'be like them'? It's one thing to understand and play the game but you also have to BEAT them at their own game and I definitely don't see Juan Williams fitting into this scenario. He just goes along to get along and condemns us in the process. The fact that he would defend a man who makes a living spewing all kinds of racist rherotic, speaks volumes to me.

Name: Exmun

Comment: I don't support Bill O'Reilly on any level, but I disagree with the implication that Juan Williams is anti-Black people. Personally, I believe that Dr. Watkins share a great deal in common. They have chosen different approaches. I read Juan Williams' book "Enough...." And after reading that book, I have an idea of how he thinks with respect to race. Much of the book, I agreed with. I don't know Dr. Watkins as much, but I support some but not all of his position as espoused in this article. I agree with cdub. There isn't (nor should there be) a monolithic Black thought. There ARE things that all Black people share (and IMO, should share) in common (some shared experiences). But I don't believe that we have to say the same things or be doing the same things. If Juan Williams does his part through commentary, then good for him. If Dr. Watkins does his part through other and different means then good for him. I just don't see the point in making it a Watkins vs. Williams grudge match. I find value in what both men are saying (O'Reilly notwithstanding).

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: NYC..I don't disagree w/anything you said. Exmum, I don't think that Williams is anti-black at all. My issue w/him and all like him on both sides is that they allow themselves to be pitted against the other. Williams allows O'reilly (only when he agrees) to parade him as a 'nygger who get's it' in the same way as Al Sharpton is paraded as the voice for blacks. The media loves to pit black folk against everybody else. Black vs. brown, black vs. white, black vs. black. Sadly, black folk buy into it in their attempt to be the "i'm w/u massa" negro. "Enough" is not a recommendable read and is very misleading. If I expected to read a "defense of Cosby," I would've purchased that book. There were no new ideas, no real enlightenment, only an opportunity for him to analyze on old analysis and criticize civil rights leaders. Providing commentary is great. But, if the only commentary you can provide is simply to criticize what someone is/isn't doing then you are making no inroads. I don't know a lot about Williams but if his actions don't match his commentary then he should stay off of the O'Reilly Factor talking about, of all things, race. Speaking of being monolithic, recent polls suggest that Hillary has majority black support. That ain't monolithic, it's disturbingl suicidal.

Name: MER82

Comment: NYCSoul--that last post said it best.

Name: Exmun

Comment: musb, I'm with you on this one. Personally, I liked Juan Williams' "Enough ..." I agree somewhat with your criticism of the book. On the "Cosby" issue you are correct. However towards the end of the book Williams includes a survey done by some academics that analyze the societal factors that most likely contribute to poverty. I'm doing this all from memory so forgive me it this is not absolutely accurate. Essentially Williams analyzes the plight of Black Americans (specifically from an economic wealth standpoint). We learn that the factors that most likely lead to a life of poverty (among all groups and races) is pregnancy under the age of 21 and lack of marriage (especially with children). According to the study (and the book) nearly 70% of Black children are born to nonmarried households, primarily single mothers and a large percentage of those kids are born to young girls under 21. The picture was made real clear why we what we are. Girls are being exploited and are producing babies before they grow up and few are standing in the gap preventing our girls from having babies before they grow up and "get a life" before babies. Personally, I got a lot from the book. Not "new" information, but the numbers and William's analysis put things in perspective for me. This situation between you and me to me proves the thesis that we don't have to all agree on everything and each of us 'gets it' from a different source or motivation. For me it was this book, among others, for you it was a different combination. So to me this whole Dr. Watkins v. Williams things is overplayed. The world needs all voices.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: Exmum..I guess maybe because I already knew all of what he said, it was just another person repeating the same statistics. If he had included more of that instead of defending Cosby and attacking Sharpton, I would've recommended the book to others. But, making it almost personal against Sharpton and a complete defense of Cosby made the book less compelling IMO. ABSOLUTELY, this WillvsWat thing is overplayed. And you know by whom, Bill O'Reilly. This has been covered on his show almost daily since it happened. I caught Williams AGAIN on O'Reilly last night and I declare, seeing him..well nevermind, watch it for yourself. Now Bill (what if it were a white man saying this) is totally against racial slurs when he wasn't when Obama was called the "majic negro" by Limbaugh. It's almost sickening to see Williams allow himself to be used like that. Hopefully, this link works. http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player06.html?100407/100 407_oreilly_career&OReilly_Factor&Career%20Buster%3F&C areer%20Buster%3F&US&-1&News&390&&&exp

Name: mamamay

Comment: Now is the time for all men to stop, look and listen to how they approach other men and women. In America, the folks are recognized by their hyphen name/America...Afro/American..Asian/American...Caucasi an/American.Just Who are the realANERICANS? The very thought of having to stop and think about the who is who, appears to keep America divided and folks expressing hate among each other. In early lifetimes, dark skin american men were called NEGROES,among other things. This is the new milennium..get with it, if one is Black or dark skin choose the name you wish to be called and stick with it. Be respectful.. Be Black and Proud..or AfroAmerican.. Stop regressing by believing the description demeans you as a person. Show some love and respect for each other...live above the orielly remarks.

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