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bigned69
Comment: Without taking anything away from all of Ike's achievements, it is still a fact that Ike made Tina's life a living hell for more than 20 years. I think she handled it very classy; acknowledged his passing, then moved on. I think the 2nd wife just mad because she didn't have the strong will Tina eventually got and bounced.
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nightshift
Comment: With the exception that her son may need her...Keep on giving them shade T. It's been over thirty years. Leave both of them in peace. P.S. Ladies & Gentlemen...LLLLLLLLetttts get ready to Litigaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyttttte!
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NueNue
Comment: There is so many things wrong with what I just read that I can not even think straight right now. The only thing I will say to this though is Tina Turner has a right to not speak about her ex husband. He has nobody to blame but himself. If they asked me to speak on my ex and he was a%*$!(@!( then I would be like no comment. Talk to his wife. That Jeanette has to be out of her mind to think its normal for a man to HIT on you and you’re suppose to be ok with it because 'he forgave himself and that’s hard to do.' WOW.
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nightshift
Comment: Yeah NueNue, that got me where he forgave "himself" Oh I guess because if these women weren't so trifling he wouldn't have to hit them in the first place. She should be glad that Tina acknowledge his death enough to blow her off. What nerve.
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barbaraodom9
Comment: Ike turner was and will be one of the most extroinary musicains that ever graced us . his music alone has helped the entire life of hip hop a genration that was supposed to have been generations x. may be be surrounded by his music and send out good salutations of his 1st love.
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Gurlfrand
Comment: May he rest in peace - this man had a severe emotional problem with beating on women - what's up with that?
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Teigh
Comment: Perhaps Tina forgave herself too. She remarkably built a solo career which started around the time she was 40. Black folks hated on her because she wanted to do Rock, and I still can't name a female artist that can out perform her -- and I mean go toe to toe with her today!!!I'm sure this Tina's grandma told her the same thing my grandma told me -- "If you ain;t got nothing nice to say -- than don't say nothing."
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NueNue
Comment: Why should she forgive herself? I don't think she did anything to forgive herself for...I understand her forgiving him but she didn’t ask for an abusive husband and an awful marriage. So I get you with her not responding cause she wouldn't have had anything nice to say but I dont get the other part.
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tightendsport
Comment: My dad was an entertainer back in the day and recalls being at Ike's house and my dad said that it was always kinda scary when Ike and Tina had parties. The cocaine was freely being passed around-it was wild. And yes Ike was abusive openly to Tina when he got high and was sleeping with the background singers in Tina's face. Ike hopefully made amends to Tina so his conscience was clear when he left this earth. Everyone has a right to own up to their mistakes but you've got to acknowledge to those you hurt your wrongs.
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crazilyz
Comment: It is Tina's prerogative not to say anything. Ike had a long life now let the man rest in peace. Hopefully his affairs were in order so we won't have to hear about any hot messes a la James Brown.
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dakoolestkat
Comment: I know i know..we're all supposed to forgive. It's just hard to show compassion for a man in "death"who showed no remorse for actions towards Tina in "life."
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khufu
Comment: LOL now wtac how many of yall Black woman avid church goers will not express or support forgiveness for Ike...starting with BIGNED's....LOL
interesting observation:
Tina spends life with white folks and probably hasnt forgiven him
while the other wife (is she Black?) stays among the Black folks (My assumption) and he forgives...
overall (except for scorned Black women who have been hurt bad by a brother) Black folks are some forgiving people
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khufu
Comment: lOL first BIGNED and then NUENUE
man folks are just plain hypocritical.....yall go to church right but apparently church up in yall azzes....LOL
isnt the foundation of Christianity forgiveness?
Some yall can foirgive R Kelly and Imus and Michael Richards but......
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HarrisThomas
Comment: Tina moved on in her life . . . she did an autobiography which became a popular movie and created a lucrative solo career . . . her ex-husband has died, she's made a brief public statement and no more need be done . . . if she attends the funeral, fine; if she doesn't that's also fine . . . I guess some folk want to see her act like an idiot and it's OK if she keeps them wanting
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shelly3968
Comment: Forgive me - but I am not sure what "suffering from emphysema" is. My take is if he died in his sleep - what an easy way out!!! Tina suffered for over 20 years from physical and emotional abuse which was indeed MORE painful, and he gets to leave this world by SLEEPING his way out! HOW EASY!!!! I luv the way Tina is no responding to his death. She is very classy. GO TINA! LUV YA SISTA
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khufu
Comment: LOL SHELLY so you have a problem with God's determining how Ike was to leave?
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RealGAPeach
Comment: Thirty years would be a long time to hold onto that type of unforgiveness. There is not an excuse in the world for his treatment of her. But coming from an abusive marriage many years ago, I realized that I couldn't hang on to that baggage. It made me determined not to fall into that type of "pattern" again. I think that Tina has forgiven and just moved on. She doesn't have to apologize to anyone for moving on and being successful. She didn't owe Ike anything. 30 years- what? There is no issue here. That pig is done- stick a fork in it!
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TMan
Comment: It totally does not surprise me that Tina has nothing to say about Ike's death. Actually, the press and media should not even press her to have to say anything. I mean, come on. Next time Tina's on Oprah, you know O will ask her though. lol!
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DCGG
Comment: I'm actually shocked and surprised at Tina's response, I really did expect better from her like a condolence to the family or some shyt...this is after all the man that fathered her kids and made her what she is today...
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CrazzeeGyrl
Comment: Tina moved on, divorced Ike and never looked back. He no longer had control over her and he didn't like that. Of course the world really found out what happened in their marriage when "What's Love Got to Do With It" came out. Jeannette is looking for more attention. How in the world does she know if Tina forgave him or not? I actually thought she did. There was a seen in the movie when Ike & Tina were in his car or near his car and he was trying to get her back. I thought she forgave him, then. Jeannete stayed with him long enough to bear four children which tells me that was long enough for him to go up side her head as many times as he wanted to. I like they way Tina has handled herself since she has left him. She really didn't have to make any sort of comment about his death. She ain't his wife no more. Aside from his personal life, Ike was good at what he did. I guess Jeannette and others will be looking for some sort of pay out from his estate. He's gone, Tina been moved on and now it's time for Jeannette to do the same. Although I'm sure we haven't heard the last from her or about his death...
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Southernbelle
Comment: Cosign DCGG, Everyone knows that Ike was an %*$!(@! back in the day. But, dang if dying doesn't relinquish you of your punishment what does? This man is answering for his sins as we speak. Tina stayed with him for 20+ years so there was something good about him. I admire the hell out of Tina Turner but even by her own admission, as depicted in the movie. She was knocking boots with Ike while his wife was laid up in the hospital with a bullet to the head. WTF was up with that? My point is we've all done things we regret and hopefully Ike made his peace. Tina has the right to comment or not. But, don't let his accomplishments be overshadowed by his flaws.
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PositiveB
Comment: I think Tina handled this with class publicly. Besides, we do not know that she isn't being very supportive of their kids during their loss behind the scenes.
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MomaKnowz
Comment: *made* her? More like, PIMPED her. Clearly, the talented of the Ike and Tina duo went on to continued success. The other fell into the obscurity he was destined to. Tina owed Ike nothing. She responded in a classy manner. Acknowledge that he died. Why lie?
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DCGG
Comment: Uhm MommaKnowz clearly you don't know shyt...Ike was sangin and doing gigs before anybody knew who the fuvk Anna Mae Bullock was...he gave her azz the opportunity...thus he made her azz...told her how to sang, dance, what to wear erythang...actually he CREATED her...
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oshun
Comment: >>Name: NueNue
Comment: There is so many things wrong with what I just read that I can not even think straight right now. The only thing I will say to this though is Tina Turner has a right to not speak about her ex husband. He has nobody to blame but himself. If they asked me to speak on my ex and he was a%*$!(@!( then I would be like no comment. Talk to his wife. That Jeanette has to be out of her mind to think its normal for a man to HIT on you and you’re suppose to be ok with it because 'he forgave himself and that’s hard to do.' WOW.
You took the words right outta my mouth!!!
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dcdouglass01
Comment: "Tina hasn’t had any contact with Ike in more than 30 years. No further comment will be made." A terse statement, to say the least. Why bother to say anything at all as opposed to this? Perhaps, "My condolescences to the Ike Turner family" would have been a little more appropriate.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: tightendsport, and on top of that Ike was with someone when he met Tina. Tina didn't have to go with him, she saw how he was with the woman that preceded her, but then she found him exciting.
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Cappaucino
Comment: All I have to say to all of you is this, if everything bad thing you ever did was recorded and displayed for the world to see how would the world view you? Would you still judge ike so harshly? The places you went, the things you thought! Listen I know what he did to Tina was wrong and I am sure he atoned for it and folks lets be real she made out pretty well in the end. Yes he did things to her and probably more or less then we know, but for you to carry on and hate this man because of what he did to someone who you don't know well enough to see if she is telling the whole truth is not wise. There are people you love and associate with everday that have done similiar things to people and you just don't know about it. Bottom line folks, it's ok to forgive because we all need it! We all fall short of Gods glory!
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Gurlfrand
Comment: How did God determine that's how Ike was supposed to leave the earth? This 13 year old boy in L.A. a few years ago got shot up by the LAPD - was that how God determined he was supposed to leave the earth?
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MetroScribe
Comment: This is ludicrous on so many levels. The last wife is so ridiculous, but I suppose this is her 15 minutes. Also, I'm sure Tina Turners' publicists' phone had been ringing off the hook, with media folks sniffing around for a statement--or, even better, a statement released in person. I can only imagine the fighting for the "exclusive." So Tina shut it down--and good on her. No media frenzy. No spectacle. What's the problem?
And what is with this "she should forgive him" sentiment? He BEAT her. It's a CRIME to physically abuse/%*$ault/beat people. And as we all know, it's against the law to treat a dog the way he treat her. More to the point--do you know what it's like (either personally or through the experience of a relative or friend) to be a victim of domestic violence? Do you know what it does to families? Forgiveness can be great, but if someone abused you, sometimes folks just have to be dead to you. I'm sure after all this time, she made her peace in whatever manner made sense to her so she could move on. But what's done is done...why should she have to grovel to wife number whatever and the rest of his family? Why would his wife even want to hear from her? What purpose would it serve...other than media attention?
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Stephanie
Comment: BigNed, I agree. After all those years he made her life a living nightmare and then tried to show his azz during the divorce and suing her trying to get some crumbs from What's Love.., I'd say the same thing and keep moving!
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Chocpat
Comment: As teenager in the 60's I love me some Ike and Tina Turner music.
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GHank
Comment: Is this the type of thing that will be said about R Kelly if/when he gets old? In other words, can you seperate the person from the music?
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khufu
Comment: LOL GURLRAND I dont want to take this off on a tangent so I will make it brief:
1) Basic theological belief, especially among most Christians, is that God determines youre annointed time to leave and how...
Hence the phrase "If it's your time, it's your time...."
2) Some nelieve that if it wasnt your time then God would intervene and stop it........or heal you..or protect you...
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khufu
Comment: GHANK good question...problem is Ike was reckoned with...where has R Kelly's reckoning occured?
See even if Ike never ever admitted he beat Tina's azz (he did) and he never was convicted inside his heart (that's between him and The God he now "sees"), his sheet came to the public light and everyone knew what he did and there was overall public condemnation
no such thing has happened yet for R Kelly...he is still denying it....his career hasnt suffered...he aint repent and folks still defend his actions many her like Nue Nue)
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lilmocc
Comment: Is Janette the one that drove up on the lawn and dropped those 2 boys on Ike's steps in the movie?
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gingerg
Comment: I think that's why Tina stayed with Ike so long. She was grateful that he discovered her and gave her a shot at fame. However, she's responsible for the fact that she survived and is now living her life like its golden. The woman has never looked better.
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McNasty
Comment: They should leave this alone. This wife says he forgave himself?!! How did he do that when he never acknowledged abusing Tina?! The fact that Ike always thought he was smarter put him in the position he was in and if he signed a contract for the use of his name common sense should have told him that he needed legal counsel. Back up singer wife is only privvy to what Ike said and knows nothing about Tina and what she has done. The fact that she doesn't want to be bothered with any of this is not a sign that she never forgave him. I hope they don't stir too deep in this pot of shat!
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Calidee
Comment: The only people Ike needs to make amends with are the people he hurt. This doesn't have to be a public statement. Ike and Tina had a rough life together. They both went on to do great things without each other. Neither one should have to live in the shadows of the other. While it's true that the great things that he did do not erase his flaws, it is also true that his flaws do not erase the great things he did.
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beboyz
Comment: Anna Mae = Pure Class I will respect the dead and not say what I think about IKE
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Gurlfrand
Comment: >khufu - no need for tangent - i love to hear responses - nay or yea! that basic theology has been used forever, but, it's not true.
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beboyz
Comment: I mentioned my ex best friend the other day. They decided to move on. when this person passes I will keep it moving. Tina has moved on and hasn't looked back. Go Head Tina!!!
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lovebites
Comment: DCGG for once i agree with you. Ike made careers of artist from his genre like Chuck Berry. Ike created rock & roll. He toured on the chitlin circut when other artists would not even drive through our towns. Tina owes him a thank you and allot more. You don't stay with someone for 20 years and more raising his and her children if he was all bad. He made mistakes, she made mistakes. I can tell you this if a man hits me once shame on him. hits me twice shame on me for not moping his %*$ up.
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CandyCane
Comment: How can she forgive a person who almost killed her? I know it's the righteous thing to do, but we are all humans. It takes time to get over something like that. Keep ya head up Tina. R.I.P Ike smh
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khufu
Comment: LOL so I uess if you go to church you really dont believe for real either huh?
Name: CandyCane
Comment: How can she forgive a person who almost killed her? I know it's the righteous thing to do, but we are all humans
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Lilmo' no, she was the one that Ike left for Tina. She was waaay before Janelle or whatever her name is. Lovebites, exactly.
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wenmichimar
Comment: This Jeanette has no right to make comments about Tina. If she's going to make public statements- she should limit her comments to her relationship with Ike - not Tina's. Keep your mouth closed!
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beegirl
Comment: Exactly, McNasty: I don't think her statement implies that she didn't forgive him. Just that she's over it and doesn't want to speak publicly. Who knows? She could be calling Jennette and the kids right now behind the scenes. Who would a big sweeping show of emotion make feel better? You? Ike's fans? His family? If it's not in her heart, why should she do it? I personally think Tina stayed with Ike all that time because she was afraid to leave him, both physically and for her children and her career. But arguing over who made who is not important. They both are famous because they both had talent. Tina had plenty to do with her rise to fame. Otherwise she would ended up like Cassie with Diddy.
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arkansasgirl
Comment: Some of these comments are like WOW. Lovebites, Have it ever occured to you and everyone else Tina may have stayed with Ike for over 20 yrs b/c she was scared to leave? Majority of women who are abused are scared to leave their abuser b/c of fear of being killed. I'm sure Tina knows she wouldn't be "Tina Turner" if it wasn't for Ike. That doesn't mean she has to make a comment about the man.
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browntwo
Comment: There are a lot of comments on here that people are getting straight from the movie. Don't believe everything you see in the movies. They do rewrites to make it more interesting.
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McNasty
Comment: I said yesterday and I'll repeat it - check out some of her interviews - once she got it together and realized she could do it on her own forgiveness had to be part of it. You can't be a practicing Buddhist without being able to forgive and you can't be a class act like Tina by harboring ill will. She got hers and he got his.
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McNasty
Comment: I'm not sure why anyone thinks she should respond, father of the kid or no. Besides the kid is no kid but a grown as.s man. She raised the sons he had by the one before her and took major as.s whipping throughout. Sorry y'all I admire her for sending the media away and not giving a response - I like even more that she has no intention of reacting the way most folks think she should.
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McNasty
Comment: . . . besides that if she wasn't talented in her own right he couldn't have made a damn thing. With her he made money, with out her - well, you see!
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bundie
Comment: So Jeanette Turner thinks it's not right for Tina to release a statement about Ike's death, but she thinks it's okay for her to call her husband "an %*$!(@!"? Who's showing more class here?
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justmytwocents
Comment: What were Tina's words in "What's Love Got To Do With It?'-:) It's her business if she doesn't have a comment to make about Ike. It's been what, 30 years? I feel it it's her business and this other wife, Jeanette Turner should respect that too. She can't expect Tina and other of Ike's ex wives to feel like she does. And just because Tina says 'no comment' doesn't mean she never forgave him. Who says forgiveness means having to express it publicly?
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Vonnj
Comment: I'm just curious if anyone know....How many children did Ike have and how many times was he married. Per the movie, Tina was wife #2. He's first son by his 1st wife (portrayed in the movie) was named Ike Jr. Tina ended up raising him as her own, when wifey #1 dropped them off. That is also the same wife who tried to kill herself, due to all the frustration with Ike and his cheating ways(at that time with Tina). Now reading this article, this wife "Jeanette" is listed as having a son name Ike Jr. So I'm confused....
Let's do a raw tally. I think wifey #1 had either two or three, Tina had about two by him. This woman had four. This sounds like it might be a mess with the estate (per too many children).
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pachwi31
Comment: I think that her response was as respectful as it could be. If you don't have nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all. I think she said all she wanted to say about the relationship in her book and the movie . What's the point in saying something now? IKE'S dead end of story. I think her response is just from the standpoint of "Why create more drama, when the drama has been over for all these years" The End.
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pachwi31
Comment: Besides after another two weeks we'll be on to the next story, and not thinking anything about this. So give the Tina a break.
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Name:
TMan
Comment: Tina probably closed her eyes, outstretched her arms and held her palms up to the sky and said the Buddhist chant, "Nam Myoho Renge Kyo," - translation in this case - "thank Buddha above, that negro ain't here no moe, let him rest in peace, but if u wanna slap him up the side of the head one time for me for good measure karma, its' alright by me, Peace!" LOL!!!!!
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Bad_Kitty
Comment: Tina owes Ike and the public NOTHING. I am sure she mournes his passing, even though he was a cruel BASTARD to her. I am sure she feels something for the loss of his life.
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katgrrrl
Comment: Well Ike, R.I.P. <> I respect Tina's answer. He put Tina on the path of Nam Myoho Renge Kyo-ing her way to mega-stardom. <> *Peace*
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khufu
Comment: TMAN
Om shanti
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Name:
larmon123
Comment: Ike Turner was a woman beater and a drug head. Everybody knew it, so to say that Tina should forgive him is a bunch of BS. Along the way Tina may have forgiven him but she is not going to tell anyone. And she hasn't seen the man in over 35 years. Yes he was a very good entertainer and I really enjoyed their music, but the bottom line comes down to how he beat Tina and no one will ever forget that. His other wives were hit by him too and if they forgave him then that is good. But the funny thing about it, none of them stayed with him so forgiveness was after they left him not while they were with him. I just hope that he had fogiven himself before he died so that he could die in peace. May God take Ike under his wings and keep him.
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Name:
deedeeVon
Comment: >>barbaraodom9 What!!! >>DCGG Just because Ike "gave her her start does not make it ok to beat her a$$! What the he(( are you thinking?
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Name:
deedeeVon
Comment: Also - How do you all know that Tina didn't send private condolences?
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Name:
Grace12_34
Comment: My guess is that Tina DID send private condolences AND that she will be at the funeral as well. I am absolutely beside myself that this Jeannette Come Lately Beyotch is all up in the marriage of Ike and Tina Turner!!!
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strandwolf
Comment: Hey all you know-it-alls! Guess what? Wellll...for one thing Ike and Tina were NEVER married to EACH OTHER. He did NOT make her life a living hell for 20 years, as some self-appointed expert claims. See a webpage tribute to the great musician, by a musician, his keyboardist for 6 years during the Ike and Tina Turner Revue years.
www.sl-prokeys.com/ike/iketurner.htm
And then realize what fools you've been to get sucked in by a silly Disney movie. Shame on all you haters.
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strandwolf
Comment: God you babblers are a caution. Such BS expounded as gospel. Ike lavished a fortune on Tina: a house, a Rolls Royce, $10,000 dresses. For behind the scenes account, with photo showing IKE at under 130 pounds, and Tina "built like a tank", you know she gave as good as she got.
www.sl-prokeys.com/ike/iketurner.htm
Seeing is believing. Read it too. YOU WILL FINALLY GET the specifics regarding her leaving him. Wake up and get real.
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Name:
yonkewi
Comment: Wow, I'm flabbergasted. That lady pretty much just condoned domestic violence, that is very, very, sad. Women have to be strong and nip domestic violence in the bud by walking, just like Ms. Tina did and god bless her. Yes, that was VERY classy of Tina to say no comment, she doesn't need to rehash all of that misery.
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