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nightshift
Comment: I hope they give him a shot so he has a chance to pay back all those fines. If not, he'll be another burden to society.
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BigBlackRod
Comment: Now y'all folks who called him stupid for smoking pot have to rethink y'all's position. If EVER there was a strategic time to get high, that was it...PEACE.
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thatbklyngirl
Comment: LOL Listen the guy is a complete idiot for being in his position and participating in such a arcane activity, but if he can exploit a “loophole’ like all these white celebs do, then go for it
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BigBlackRod
Comment: thatbklyngirl: Yes, it is stupid to have been jammed up over what he did, but this was a shrewd move. I bet that lawyer came up with it...PEACE.
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gingerg
Comment: This man has suffered enough. Turn him loose already.
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mcctusk
Comment: Getting a break from the legal system for breaking the law? Only in amerika.
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1VAsweetsexy
Comment: I knew it had to be one on this post that sided with "them" come on mcctusk give it a rest..there is more important things someone can be locked up for
I just brought a ticket for your comment bandwagon.. thatbklyngirl and have a window seat..LOL
I hope when he gets out he doesn't go back to Atlanta but I know tht won't happen...but this racist state Me and Vick are from will be ready to hang him..when he does return..All those idiots out there protesting but can't gather together like that over all those prisons we hve build versus enough schools to cut down on the overcrowd of classrooms
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KILLERMEG
Comment: As usual EUR late! Anyway I hope it works cause he needs to be on the field not behind bars. FREE MIKE VICK!
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KILLERMEG
Comment: BIGBLACK-You aint neva lied!
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arkansasgirl
Comment: Good luck Vick. I would love to see you back on the field.
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dcdouglass01
Comment: Sounds proper and fair to me.
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mcctusk
Comment: 1VA> I am not siding with anyone, i am merely observing yet another example of our great progressive justice system (LOL). This time the outcome worked in Vick's favor, but isn't it a bit ironic that one's prison sentence could be reduced because one broke the law? Is illegally fighting dogs and killing them considered a violent crime? If it is considered a violent crime, then are other criminals who are convicted of violent crimes eligible to receive a shortened sentence if they test positive for drugs? I am sure that drugs play a part in most violent crimes, does it make sense to you to grant early release to people convicted of violent crimes who also test positive for drugs on the 'promise' of completing drug treatment?
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BigBlackRod
Comment: mcctusk: I'm sure that they will close the loophole after Vick gets through, but, you have an excellent point. Most violent crime has a drug connection, either because of being under the influence, or the pursuit of money to get some...PEACE.
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Southernbelle
Comment: There's always a loophole.
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Southernbelle
Comment: BIgBlackRod> The lawyers didn't find this loophole. If they had that much intelligence the man wouldn't have gotten so much time in the first place. This was thought of by the Falcons Coach. That brother has been busting his azz trying to get Vick back LOL.
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musbdherbs
Comment: mcctusk, early releases for those who broke the law isn't anything abnormal. Also, violent laws against humans are different than those against animals as they should be. Hence, the differences in sentencing guidelines.
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mcctusk
Comment: musb> not abnormal yes, but isn't it ironic?
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BigBlackRod
Comment: Southernbelle (Why do I hear Frankie Beverly in my head as I type this?): I think that once they had Vick connected to this, they weren't gonna let go with anything less than two years. I think Vick's lawyer's strength is in damage control, cause Vick's stupid azz had his fingerprints all over this...PEACE,
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1VAsweetsexy
Comment: Well, checkmate mcctusk...That was good ..Hmmm (with my finger on my temple):)
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mcctusk
Comment: musb> i agree with reducing sentences for people who commit certain kinds of crimes, but it is widely known that most killers (people) first kill animals. I agree that people convicted of killing people should do ALOT more time than those who kill animals, but I feel that to early-release people who kill animals AND do drugs is setting the stage for escalating violence more often than not. Now, I don't feel that scenario specifically applies to Vick, only because he has much more to (re)gain from cleaning up his act than your average joe. By the way musb, what area of work are you in? I usually learn something from your posts. Thanks.
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mcctusk
Comment: 1VA>> its no game here. I feel bad for Vick, but I know he will be okay. At the worst, he can go play in Europe or Canada once he gets out. I predict he will be a millionaire again within 2 years of his release. It's really the rest of us I am worried about!! LOL
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michaelollieclayton
Comment: Just for you, Mike: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CATOsYb428s
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musbdherbs
Comment: Mcctusk, it really isn't ironic to me because I fully support sentences being suspended under certain circumstances. Some people need to be incarcerated for longer periods of time. Some not at all. You ever notice why families who attack defendents in courtrooms never go to jail? It's not like they didn't commit a crime in a courtroom, it's the circumstances. I believe that the "most killers kill animals first" thing applies more to serial killers than those who killer in crimes of passion or opportunity. In Vick's case, I do not think there was an instance of violence against humans. I agree that violence of any form and drugs can be a predicate to escalated violence. But, the choice of drugs is important. Hard drugs Yes(crack, coke, meth, heroin) as there is a history of crime azzociated w/them. Soft drugs (marijuana) No because most of the time you too damn sleepy to do anything but suffer from accute munchieitis..lol I work in employee safety law. Yeah I know... wrong field. lol
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dcdouglass01
Comment: How is Vick getting a break for breaking the law? He's getting a break if he successfully completes a drug rehabilitation program. Happens every day. X years reduced to 2/3*X years for good behaviour/participation in some kind of positive program/not spitting on prison guards, etc. If he gets out and decides he wants to fight dogs and smoke marijauna again, then he'll go back to jail. I suspect he will have (has) learned his lesson though.
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Angel
Comment: dcdouglass - good point. And I suspect he received a longer sentence due to his failed drug test to begin with anyway. I don't think anyone felt he would have to serve the entire 23 months. Like you said, there's always early release for good behavior and successfully completing rehabilitative programs. If it wasn't drug rehag, it would've been some other reason for the early release if he behaved.
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mcctusk
Comment: uh dcd> isn't doing drugs illegal? did i miss something? and if it were not for said illegal actions, would he be offered a reduced sentence? the answer may be yes, but AGAIN, it is not Vick that I am worried about.
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mcctusk
Comment: good point Angel...it's kinda like how the retailers raise prices just to give you a 'sale'.
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realuvbaby
Comment: mctusk, the laws that govern the USA are so complex, convoluted and conflicting, have double standards and downright nonsensical at best, but it's democracy at work. It's not the best system, but we work with what we got. I am pro 10-commandments girl, myself; they cover every behaviour known to man.
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realuvbaby
Comment: I should say "some" of the laws.
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Taurusingr
Comment: I know they "say" it was on some ole Martha Stewart sh-t that got Vick in trouble, But on THIS kind of offense,I think anyone who feels it was "justice" the way they came down on this brotha...Taking everything away over SOME DOGS??? has to rethink their "definition" of JUSTICE! Only BLACK PEOPLE take a back seat to DOGS! DAMN!
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Taurusingr
Comment: P.S. This does explain why Vick went in so early, VOLUNTEERING to do so right before THE HOLIDAY. Now if only a team does hold THIS against him, NOT wanting to pay him what he IS worth when he gets out! Vick, keep your head up! ( watch "Playmakers" & SEE what YOUR kind of friends can do to you) GET SMART "straighten up" & get some NEW FRIENDS!!!
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Taurusingr
Comment: Excuse me...I meant DOESN'T...Peace!
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Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: Cosign dcdouglass and Angel. If he can be released from prison by the end of 08 or early 09 that would be great, but let's not get too excited. As much as I would love to see Vick in the league, remember, Roger Goddell suspended Vick from the NFL INDEFINITELY. Therefore, there is no guarantee that Vick would play in the 09 season. Somehow Vick's lawyers need to help him earn LOTS and LOTS of brownie points with Roger.
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Angel
Comment: CNG - I agree and I don't think MV will ever be a QB again. He will have to settle for a less prominent position. QB is a leadership role and he just isn't a leader.
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McNasty
Comment: McTusk you've obviously never been to prison. For some once is enough and I believe MV will be a changed man for the experience. Nothing like sharing 24/7 - 365 with a bunch of rusty butt men, constantly watching your as.s on one side from those that would think to try to take it and funky as.s guards on the other.
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PRDC
Comment: That's good, he can do more good out than in...God Bless him...He's not a bad person....
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