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soulmusic101
Comment: Intersting read...Why can't BET show hip-hop video's that are trying to say something? Put Lupe Fiasco's "Superstar" in heavy rotation and not the next "Crank Dat".
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bigfriend
Comment: I like the way he says that Johnson Is coonin' shuckin' and jivin'. I guess he says that because the Clintons are white and Obama is black. So I guess that means because he does not support Obama who is black Johnson is a sell out? I love the Double standard. Do you HAVE to support Obama because he is black? That is stupid in itself! Presidential campaigns ALWAYS try to make the other canidate look bad and themselves look good he was not doing anything for the Clintons that has not been done before or will not be repeated. But because he is speaking out against a black presidential canidate that means you are a sell out for the white man? People have a right to thier opinion and who they want to support if it is not Obama oh well. Not every black person has to love Obama! I love the way black people will bust out the race card... even on other black people!! And BET would not be sucessful if BLACK people did not watch it! Get over yourself Ali.
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MsProtesta
Comment: Amen Mr. Ali! I was truly disgusted when I heard Bob Johnson’s comments yesterday. Don’t hate on Obama because your legacy will only consist of booty shakin videos! With 24 hours of broadcast time available, at any given time there was, and still are, only two hours dedicated to positive programming on BET!!! Let this be a lesson to us all, no matter how wealthy, “prestigious” or “educated,” that crab-in-a-bucket mentality still plays. Barack Obama is the logical result of the Civil Rights Movement. That’s my opinion. Its okay to disagree with me; however, please don’t result to shuckin and jivin on the world stage! Your comments are not limited to the hood!
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TGen
Comment: Bigfriend, surely you're not that myopic. Surely you recognize that ALL the Blacks in support of Clinton are criticized the way Bob Johnson has been. Perhaps the reason is the WAY he chose to campaign for his candidate, not just pointing out differences in issues, but he went where even most White supporters of Clinton wouldn't dare go. He hit under the belt, wallowed in filth and mud, and for what? Why bash a viable Black candidate running for America's highest office? For some White lady whose husband led a good economy? lol Why not have some CLASS and just simply point out Clinton's azzets (after all he was supposed to be introducing HER, correct?) and leave BO's name out of his damn mouth? In one statement, he managed to do what his cable station has done over the years--divide Black folks and make us look like ignant fools to "others." Congrats to him for that. *Sigh*
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soulmusic101
Comment: If Obama was Asian...I would still have his back. Like Bob really cared about his audience?
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HarrisThomas
Comment: I find it deeply maddening, saddening that WJC is called "the black president" by some in the AA community . . . why in this existence would Billary think that a sell-out Bob Johnson carries credibility in the AA community?: does the black president thing extend and expand on credibility to other dubious individuals? . . . a Bob Johnson does not associate with a Billary without consideration of getting quid pro quo (equal substitution)for money spent . . . so, what is Johnson expecting from Billary if Billary becomes president?
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Stuckinthe70s
Comment: Amen, Bro Najee, AMEN! I was absolutely furious with Mr Johnson commends. The man who brings us no TV at all. Releases Tavis Smiley, a brother providing valuable information to the people, substituting more hours of ridiculous music entertainment. To defame a man that turned his life around to GRADUATE from Harvard Univ and run one of the most prestigious Law reviews in the country. What you say hold NO creditabilty!!!
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McNasty
Comment: Lord have Mercy! I thought there would never come the day when I would agree with this angry muslim! I not only agree I co sign. I would like to add that rather than get up in arms over bob's remarks we have to consider the source and check his record cause his hands haven't ever been clean. Besides that he doesn't garner ANY votes and is not respected enough amongst blacks to encourage new ones for billary. I think billary, her husband and their new bootlicker may have don themselves a disservice and not just in South Carolina.
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McNasty
Comment: Bigfriend are you dyslexic? You seem to never really 'get it' but always come with the perceived racism. You deflect how you feel, don't really comprehend the article and still come like some kind of black elitist! This article has nothing to do with color votes it has to do with one man throwing the other under the bus! Bob didn't have to remark on Obama it is not for him to champion the clinton cause and to continually use the man's admitted marijuana use and then backtrack - well billary backtracked but never apologized for jumping on the war machine I guess her contributors should do likewise. Bob is a bootyshaking video pimp who made stoopid money exploiting his own people. But no Bigfriend, this ain't about race.
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MsBlake
Comment: Great letter Najee. I totally agree with you. The reason why most of us are riled up has nothing to do with BOB Johnson not supporting Obama, its about his comments that hit below the belt. As someone said earlier he was suppose to be introducing Clinton not dissing Obama. His comments were unnecessary. If when Oprah went to stump for Obama she brought up Monica Lewinsky I'd be equally disgusted with her and the Obama camp.Anyway Bob has done Obama a favour cos his wrong choice of words has helped hand over some of Clintons supporters over to Obama.
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Sexee
Comment: Bob is throwing up Barack's past in his face. That is exactly why he wrote the book to remove the power of someone such as Bob (sold out his soul with non-value programs on BET)What were you doing when the Clintons were in the white house? Accepting payola? Give me a freaking break!
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TheBrownOne
Comment: I agree with most on this post that Bob is a rich moral idiot and Bigfriend is probably a not rich moral idiot (in fun-sort of-unproven of course), but I will point out another overlooked blatant hypocrisy. Did we forget that Clinton spent a great bit of his campaign lying about whether or not he exhaled or inhaled dope. His dumbazz needs to reel his people in quick on this whole Obama past thing cause they need to be the last ones concerned about what he honestly admits that he did in the past. Further, if everyone adult that tried drugs(including weed, yes it's a drug), abused alcohol or uses them now voted for Obama because they can relate, then I would offer that 3/4 of the country would vote for him at least and he would win hands down. And I propose that we figure out a win to show our disdain for Johnson with his businesses. Rally the troops Ali.
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khufu
Comment: she is
and myopic is a generous euphemism....
Name: TGen
Comment: Bigfriend, surely you're not that myopic
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khufu
Comment: what profiteth a man if he gain the whole world and lose his soul?
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khufu
Comment: the majority of Black folks are stll lost and suffering from the mental illness cause by slavery and everyday things, events, circumstances, etc present themmseves to reveal how deep the madness is.....
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: I find it deeply maddening, saddening that WJC is called "the black president" by some in the AA community . .
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khufu
Comment: sadly many dont even know he said that
most dont remember bistory beyoynd three seconds ago
the rest are so spiritually and mentally dub deaf and blind.....
sorry but somone has to say it.....
Did we forget that Clinton spent a great bit of his campaign lying about whether or not he exhaled or inhaled dope.
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khufu
Comment: McNasty today I m with you
sometimes (once in a green moon) you are right! LOL
Name: McNasty
Comment: Bigfriend are you dyslexic? You seem to never really 'get it' but always come with the perceived racism.
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khufu
Comment: Brother ALi..thank you for standing up and fighting for what is right and what is righteous
thank you for standing up for our ancestors and our babies
thank you for fighting for us when we oftimes dont have the sense, decency or courage to fight for ourselves
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McNasty
Comment: Stick yourself!
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MsBlake
Comment: Hey wussup Khufu, Afrobrit here, I was wondering when u were going to show up. Always look forward to your input. This election is some kinda drama ain't it!lol
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MsBlake
Comment: This just in........ Key Clinton Ally Rangel calls Obama remarks 'absolutely stupid' by Christi Parsons Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton declared a truce in their recent war of words last night, but an important Clinton ally was still actively engaged last night. Rep. Charles B. Rangel said in a CNN interview that Obama was "absolutely stupid" in his part of the exchange over the relative influence of Rev. Martin Luther King and President Lyndon Johnson in passing civil rights legislation. "How race got into this thing is because Obama said 'race,'" Rangel said in an interview. "But there is nothing that Hillary Clinton has said that baffles me." Clinton and Obama yesterday were trying to de-escalate the conflict, which began when Clinton said that King needed the help of a strong president, Lyndon Johnson, to get legislation passed. Some leaders complained she was giving Johnson more credit for civil rights progress than King, and Obama said her remarks were baffling. Even as the two candidates were calling for an end to the back-and-forth yesterday, Rangel was criticizing Obama publicly. "I would challenge anybody to belittle the contribution that Dr. King has made to the world, to our country, to civil rights, and the Voting Rights Act,” said Rangel. “But for him to suggest that Dr. King could have signed that act is absolutely stupid. It's absolutely dumb to infer that Doctor King, alone, passed the legislation and signed it into law." (sigh)
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khufu
Comment: Now Rangel weighs in...LOL told ya
yall hate to admit it, right Mcnasty TOLD YA!!!
makes your soul ache huh? LOL
ROFLMAO
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khufu
Comment: jow how you MSBlake...how have things been progressing? Always nice to see you weighing in..
i so love AFro Caribbean women...
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musbdherbs
Comment: lawd have mercy. Ya'll go make me start smoking cigarettes...WTF?
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khufu
Comment: next: The Congressional Black Causcus in some way, maybe a press conference, will "denouce" Obama's statement
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Name:
Platinum
Comment: AMEN brotha Ali you said it all! Bob Johnson is an idiot, he has issues and need to give those puffy eyes of his a rest. He brings up Obama's past, I guess he forgot all about Bill Clinton who has admitted to doing the same thing. These self hatin' negroes like Johnson and BIGFRIEND makes me wanna puke!
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mcctusk
Comment: And if you thought there was a shortage of self-hatred from the pulpit....
http://www.bossip.com/categories/youtube-clip-of-the-d ay/
Disgusting.
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MsBlake
Comment: Khufu, I'm good thanks. Still following the election like crazy and like Musherdherbs the negativity from Johnson and Rangel is making me want to smoke a cigarette(and I don't even smoke). lol
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MsBlake
Comment: People have often questioned why a Democrat in the white house (preferably Obama) means so much to me. I've explained to them that in Britain, we tend to follow whatever the Americans are doing, kinda like the little brother copying everything the older brother does regardless of whether it is right or wrong. Prime example Tony Blair following Bush into Iraq. So if we're going to continue that tradition of following the Americans I'd prefer if they followed a Democrat. Plus it gives us Brits HOPE that one day we too would get a black prime minister.
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PTown
Comment: Most people do one of two things all the time: Try to look good, or avoid looking bad. In a media circus that is quick to judge and slow to apologize, he has committed to me, black on black crime. I don't care if he supports Dane Cook for President. Don't put on your tap dance shoes, and show your Moteasa heritage (Mo Tea, Sir?). Get to the point! Talk about WHY you love Hillary, and then introduce her. Don't bang on ANYONE else. What the %*$!( is this bloods and crips?
By the way, these political candidates go to church more during a political race than Billy Graham.
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khufu
Comment: MSBLAKE I lived in the Caribbean, as I stated before...maybe obe day we will have the opp to talk about that...in the meantime,
Black folks in America might need to learn some things about how Black folks in and throughout the Caribbean "do" their politics....
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khufu
Comment: For example...Trade Unions in and throughout the Caribbean are a source of unified strength
interestingly, the church in the Caribbean tends to be less a centre of political strength for Black folks....
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MsBlake
Comment: Lol@Bloods and Crips. Hearing what Rangel and Johnson are saying makes me cringe for real. The Reublicans are just sitting back with their coca cola and popcorn watching the Democrats fight (sigh). No such drama in their camp (YET).Khufu thats interesting, spose some AA's can learn a little sumthin from the islanders.
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khufu
Comment: Black folks at crossraods
what they gon' do?
last time
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Name:
pn2ppr
Comment: Charles Rangel (shaking my head). These people really kill me. You know, no one above scrutiny but this just takes the cake. Why is it that prominent black folk are always the first to speak out against other prominent black folk. Yt just sits back and says: let the kniggers get them, they'll do it. And sure enough some wanna be respected black figure (who by the way proposed the Patriot Act) takes aim to shoot down a his fellow man. No one is saying that Obama should get a pass because he is black, but I do believe that if you side with his opposition there is no reason on earth (other than licking boots) to try to disrespect him. Calling the man's comments stupid is stupid, and I suspect it was done on purpose to fan flames. They are trying to force Obama to play the race card, and lose his cool. It can't be done. OBAMA in '08 - %*$!( the clintons and any ignorant black person who thinks it necessary to show support for the Clintons by bashing Obama. If you're a black supporter of Hillary - fine. Do that, be that. But how dare you spew insults at the only ever viable African American candidate. YT wouldn't do it to their own, and neither would the jews.
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khufu
Comment: youre joking right?
theyre getting paid
there are truly and really agents of the gvernment and the status quo and yt's who do this because they are getting paid
they were once called HOUSE NEGROES
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khufu
Comment: Name: khufu
Comment: youre joking right? theyre getting paid there are truly and really agents of the gvernment and the status quo and yt's who do this because they are getting paid they were once called HOUSE NEGROES
Name: pn2ppr
Comment: Charles Rangel (shaking my head). These people really kill me. You know, no one above scrutiny but this just takes the cake. Why is it that prominent black folk are always the first to speak out against other prominent black folk.
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oldsoul
Comment: Truedat.
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khufu
Comment: interesting coincidence.....the great Blues guitarist....
Robert Johnson sold his soul to the devil in Rosedale, Mississippi
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pn2ppr
Comment: Khufu, no I was not joking, that was a rhetorical question. By the way, I have read many of your comments on varied subjects and I have a question for you. Why do you always come with a history lesson? "House Negroes?" Come now. Many of us know our history very well. Some of us have even studied history on our own - digging way past what they want us to know. Give us a little credit will ya.
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khufu
Comment: pnpr...well, as has ben said:
Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it...
Black folks keep repeating the same mistakes so i logicallt conclude that most either dont know it or they dont know how to apply it to present day
there is a saying hat:
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result...
well, Black folks, some--the majority-- keep doing the same things over and over...what does that say?
1) collective insanity and/or
2. they must not know their history enough to know that they are continually doing the same thing or that the same thing is being done to them that has been done for the last 4oo years
does that answer your question?
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khufu
Comment: ppr and I wasnt being negative towards you......i apologize if it came off that way
I was agreeing with you actually and stating that these folks are doing their job........jobs....
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Name:
tasteykind
Comment: Bigfriend it appears you are not in touch just like Bob Johnson. It is funny he lines up with someone who can make him some more money!!!!!!! Look Bob Johnson within the African american community will have his naysayers and followers. But Bob is downright wrong for how he made his billions, no moral values at the expense of his own people, typical capitalism that is at odds with all minority countries for how it sees how the world should work and have values. Change is the hardest thing to accept by humans regardless of color. We are in a new era where the politics of old are no longer working and the struggles of those who would like to keep the current system in place are desperate. Change is what Obama is doing. Hillary, her husband, and Bob Johnson and bigfriend are apart of the old politics. They are desperate (look at bigfriend's comments) and their number one tactic is distortion. Obama is about everyone. Obama is real just as is John Edwards. But it is time for change and Obama to me is totally about change. So I commend Najee Ali for his comments because he hit it right on target. In order for African Americans to get anywhere it will take the wealthy African americans doing something good with their money that uplifts our spirits from the current living conditions we face. We can't wait on the gov't, God, etc. I wish Bob Johnson was one but I do not consider him one. Take a look at Oprah. She shows you how you are suppose to help others when you are rich.
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Calidee
Comment: I have no problem with Black folkS supporting Clinton. I also don't have a problem with Clinton supporters (Black or White) criticizing Obama, it is part of politics. What I find interesting is that White folks try to be very careful about the way they criticize Obama because they don't want to be perceived as racist. If Obama was White I believe that more people would try to make the drug non-issue an issue. After all this is politics and this is what people do when they are trying to win an election. What gets me is that White folks don't have to say negative things about Obama, because we got Black folk who will do the massa's dirty work against their own. If I was a Clinton supporter I like to think that I would not allow myself to be used in that way.
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SweetieDarlin
Comment: Thank Najee Ali-
BTW I've always suspected that BigFriend is actually a white spy especially after the article regarding the gentrification of Wash. D.C. and the fact that whites were pushing out black his response was that it wasn't HIS fault that blacks chose not to get educated enough or work hard enough to afford the housing in their area---Interesting choice of words IMO it kind of implied that he was not black....
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PHScott
Comment: That's my man Najee, always one to speak his mind. However, your ire may have been a bit misguided. Readers, this is FAR BEYOND BLACK AND WHITE. Like everything else in politics, it is about MONEY, plain and simple. Billionaire Bob jumps in bed with the Clintons because he stands to profit more with them in office in the future, that's all. Unfortunately, the man that once created a media empire has horrible communication skills, which I find ironic. Yes, it aired his ignorance in public, but how do you get back at him? He no longer owns BET, and you can't take away money he's already earned. So what? Boycott some Charlotte Bobcat games? Najee, you have intellect and potential leadership skills on a wide scale. Reducing yourself to name-calling only make yourself look small. In the end, your words do not even lightly mar billionaire Bob, but do not worry- the natural order of the universe will exact its tax from Mr. Bob Johnson...
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NajeeAli
Comment: I usually never comment on the EUR board but for the record my defense of Obama has nothing to do with him being Black or a Democrat. I could care less about that. I vote for my best canidate. Those that support Sen Clinton that's your choice,it's cool with me. Im supporting Sen Obama because i believe in his message.
And yes I did some name calling but by design. There are a lot of stories on EUR.I wanted and got everyone's attention to the injustice and the Black on Black crime that Bob Johnson pulled on Obama.
Johnson role was simply to introduce his canidate Sen Clinton, His comments about Obama was a dirty low blow.
We needed someone to speak out publically against it, condemn and hold Mrs Clinton accountable for her support of someone like Bob Johnson.
Bob is a Billionaire you think he cares what I say about him.You think he has time to read EUR?
the real meaning of the open letter to Bob.was to get YOUR attention.
We need to circle the wagons and support and defend our brother Obama when he needs us most that time is now.
Bob Johnson, Rangel, will not do it. We have to.
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pn2ppr
Comment: Khufu, I understand (elbow nudge) and I wasn't fighting with you it's just that stating the obvious can sometime be annoying. But I feel you on that.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Unfortunately Brother Najee, the sense of political and cultural community consciousness that you are calling forth is severely lacking on this ENTERTAINMENT" internet location i.e EUR..
nonetheless many blessings for your willingness to carry forth the message inspired in your heart, mind, tongue and pen...
most of the folks here have admitted that this, like BET, is merely another of the many mechanisms of entertainment for them...
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McNasty
Comment: Najee we're doing it - doing it to death - just listen to all the different polls. Depending on the day of the week or the hour of the day Obama is still neck and neck with bob johnsons choice. We're reaching for the moon and hopefully paying attention to the house kneegrows who should be dealt with after this is over. Johnson has never been politically active enough to encourage a vote let alone voters in general. After his public introduction the other day folk are now realizing that it wasn't a joke and the man could care less about what he has done, only the bottom line - the almighty dollar.
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khufu
Comment: see what hapens when people sit back and let viruses grow.....all this outrage with BET and Bob Johnson should have been expressed as soon as BET went off the deep end...Bob Johnson should have been brought to accountability a long time ago.....now the Virus had grown unchecked and has come to bite even harder into the azz of Black folks: Bob Johnson
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Name:
NajeeAli
Comment: Brother Khufu,& Mc Nasty,Im feeling you
yeah we we should have stepped to BET
25 years ago. personally i was still in H.S. and a kid But the NAACP,SCLC Jesse, Andy Young, Maxine waters and other Black leaders should have manned up and spoke out against BET years ago
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Name:
khufu
Comment: if we can only get folks to see the necessity to "step" now FOR REAL then our children wont have to fight the same fight again in 20 more years...by then Hispanics and Chinese will be runing things and Black folks as we know them might be the stuff that urban myths are made of
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Name:
Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: Waaaaaayyyyyy back in the day, Bob Johnson would've been the slave that Harriet Tubman would have had to shoot....
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Name:
DEEofVA
Comment: "The fact that Sen. Clinton or anyone would want or accept your endorsement is appalling and for me calls their basic character, let alone judgment, into question."
It really does! If you couple Bob Johnson with Hillary Clinton's MLK/LBJ Comments and with Bill Clinton's troubling appearance yesterday on the TJMS, it's clear that Bill and Hillary Clinton can only relate to Black folks from paternalistic and patronizing perspective. Call it the White Liberal Missionary Position: Benevolent Whites folks want to save the African savage. They don't look at us as peers but pet projects. Listen to what Hillary Clinton said just today, "As President, I will empower the African American Community." Can someone please tell this White woman we don't need her to empower us. We already feel empowered; that's why we're trying to take over the White House. We don't need their scraps or their pity, just the keys please.
As for Bob Johnson, he's been insulting the intelligence of the Black Community for over two decades starting with his false promise to create a network that mirrors Black life. Negro, Please! If Bob thinks that 24 hour rump shaking is a mirror on our world, than he's more pathetick than I thought! Enough is enough!
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Name:
DEEofVA
Comment: Bigfriend,
God damn, cut back on the Clinton Kool-Aid! You can not be that damn dim! Bob Johnson was employing the racist tactics normally reserved for 'good old boy's' to defeat Black candidates. He was trying to seer in the minds of voters that Obama, a U.S. Senator and Harvard Law President, was nothing more than a "typical" drug dealing/using Black man.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: LOL I like DeeofVA..... LOL
Name: DEEofVA
Comment: Bigfriend, God damn, cut back on the Clinton Kool-Aid! You can not be that damn dim!
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Name:
khufu
Comment: LOL
Name: Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: Waaaaaayyyyyy back in the day, Bob Johnson would've been the slave that Harriet Tubman would have had to shoot....
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