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Name:
Gurlfrand
Comment: lol, whatever you say, Ree.
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Teigh
Comment: First Natalie now Ree Ree...somehow when Beyonce said that I knew "it" would hit the fan...I don't know who is older Anna Mae or Aretha, but dang Aretha let it go. Anna Mae still rocks 3" Laboutin's and can shake and shimmy with the best of em. Can she be the Queen for a day?...actually Tina is the Queen of Rock -- in her heyday she rarely did concert halls Tina was strictly stadium! And it was awesome!! Sorry Ree Ree you're accomplished too, but not like that!
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bwc1023
Comment: While Aretha is called by many, the "Queen of Soul", and she has a long history in the music industry, this attitude of entitlement that she has is nuts. It's all about opinion, and I for, one, have been mystified by the deification of Aretha. Some great songs, a very strong voice...but there are many others with great songs and strong voices...and she needs to get over herself (though i doubt that will ever happen.
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TGen
Comment: Bwc1023, big time co-sign. I've always gotten "ego" from Aretha. I could go into other incidents, but I won't. It seems she thinks she's "officially" a queen, lol. Tis a NICKNAME. The more gracious thing would have been, "Tina Turner is a queen in her own way too. I appreciated that I was included in the intro and let's leave it at that." But that would have been too humble for Retha, lol. *rolling eyes*
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PlanetRock
Comment: Right! First Natalie, now Aretha. Yes, Aretha is the Queen of Soul, but now the queen of EVERYTHING. Tina Turner is indeed a queen of the stage to many people. Unfortunately, Aretha now only seems to be the queen of Popeye's Chicken or the queen of breast milk. We love her, but Morris Day needed to back up a giant mirror to her at the Grammy's.
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nightshift
Comment: Planet I'm suing you for burns received, getting caught off-guard while sipping some tea!! I thought the same thing. I'll get back to you, I'm calling my lawyer!!
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Trianna007
Comment: Egos.
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PlanetRock
Comment: ***dead*** at Nightshift. LOL!!
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Name:
McNasty
Comment: These old Divas are sure gettin' their nighties in a knot of late!lol
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STONEY605
Comment: i disagree with u all if u didn't know Tina TURNER was coming out before her performance with Beyonce and then B says here's the Queen everybody would think she was talkin about Aretha so i think Aretha has been call that for over 40 years and have deserve to be the only one to call the Queen.
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dede0320
Comment: Planet Rock..ROFLMAO, You are so wromg, add me as a plantiff I almost hurt myself laughing..dang Re Re get over it, it was a tribute to Tina, she gets into it with everyone, Patti, Gladys, she has issues, she too old for that, but we still love you anyway..Senility taking over.
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dede0320
Comment: Clearly she suffering from those issues becuase she need to check her stylist before coming out in those darn sleevless low cut gowns, now who really wants to see all that? Just too much on the eye!!!
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nightshift
Comment: What I wouldn't give to have been back stage!!!! I bet Re-Re was-a-huffin-&-a-puffin, sweatin' crisco!! heiffuh this and heiffuh that!! ooooooweee I feel sorry for the person who had to run to the Wah-Wah to get her a bucket GULP. They're not divas to me, just spoiled. I just wish I was there!!
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Grace12_34
Comment: When I lived in Los Angeles years ago, I heard this really nasty piece of insider gossip that Aretha Franklin slapped one of her backup singers. I believe it now. I co-sign with TGen. It is a NICKNAME!!! I wish she'd keep those arms covered up for the remainder of her time on the planet. It's amazing how someone so big, fat and sloppy-looking could have such delusions of grandeur. Neither one of these performers are queens. They're just two very talented people who got lucky. Teigh, Anna Mae is 68 and Aretha is 65.
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khufu
Comment: 1) She should trademark it
2) VH1 did a show once on the top vocalists of all time and RE Re was number 1...in oder to understand the deification of Re Re one would have to truky understand the evolution (artisitically, aestethetically, culturally, socially) of American music...oh SHE DOES derserve the title....no doubt.......
3) More than likely the writers who wrote the script were young white kids (though they could have been Black) who had no clue about the music for real........also if they were white, more than likely, if young, had more "appreciation" of crossed-over Tina than the soul, R and B AND Gospel rooted Aretha
4) RE RE love ya but get a hold on your health
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khufu
Comment: check this out fyi:
http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_vocalists-fe-rr .html
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Name:
Sigmatherunner
Comment: It wouldn’t had been funny if Aretha Franklin went to bouncy dressing room broke out and started
Singing “You better think, think-think who going around calling queen”
Also Aretah and Anna Mae are both age shaving.
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khufu
Comment: Godfather of Soul....James Brown
King of Rock and Roll? Hmmmmmmm
PIs it Chuck Berry or Little Richard?
King of the Blues? B B King (I dont sgree though)
Queen of the Blues? Koko Taylor or Bessie Smith or Big Mama Thornton
My point is these titles do have some significance-----historically and culturally
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bigchassie
Comment: now i don't mean to step on no toes but....RE-RE GET OFF THAT WEIGHT! YOU ARE TOO DAYUM BIG!!! YOUR CHASSIE IS BIGGER THAN MINE!
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TinayPretty
Comment: GIVE ME A BREAK!!! Are you serious? Just because you have been referred to as the "Queen" of Soul does not mean the word "SOULY"(smile) belongs to you!! What the hail is going on with these "BIG HEADED EGOTISTIC" artists?? Maybe we should warn Queen Eliz that Aretha's taking her on next!!!!
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Exmun
Comment: I luv Retha... but please. You mean to tell me that a grown woman doesn't have better things to do than talk about a title. Get over yourself 'Retha. You betta than that.
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Teigh
Comment: Grace12_34> you had me until you said lucky; Wasn't no luck with Anna Mae...old girl left that mess of a man she had with NOTHING but her name and built a rock career the one one has even come close to matching when no one said she would or could. She was singing in hotels, to senior citizens and the B& C rooms of Vegas working her way back. After she hooked up with Roger Davies the rest was history Tina left America when the Blacks wasn't down with the Rock music she wanted to sing. She had one of the most dynamic live performances I have ever seen PERIOD. She's right up there with the Rolling Stones in my book. Tina gave you almost 3 hours when she toured. Beyonce, who is compared to Tina because she does stadiums as well can't even do that NOW. I'm with you Grace but neither of them were lucky -- they both have talent and can more than hold their own still today. The major difference between Tina & Aretha is that Ree Ree let her men control her career and it held her back...once Tina rid herself of Ike it was not stopping Ms. Bullock!
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NYCsoul
Comment: For years, Aretha has been a little leery of the press because she's been misquoted. Honestly, I don't know if she actually said this or not. I notice there is no press agency attached to this story or footage to show she made this 'statement'. I know Aretha is used to being spoiled but she's always been classy as she has never publicly 'dissed' other singers. I'm a little suspicious about this so-called 'statement'.
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NYCsoul
Comment: I have never heard of Aretha letting any man 'control' her. When did that happen???
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Name:
Platinum
Comment: Aretha Franklin please! You have NEVER been the queen of anything in my book. To me she has always had an average voice and her songs were just okay to ME! MY queen of soul is Gladys Knight, I'll take her over Aretha Franklin any day!
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khufu
Comment: oh boy...this is going to end up bashing Blak men....LOL
anyway, Big Mama Thornton is considered to be Queen of R and B I beleive
Well it's obvious some dont understand Re Re's musical and cultural impact....
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xavixavi
Comment: I DISAGREE w/ all of you who are against ree. Yeas she needs one less breakfast, yes she could use a stylist, but I thought we were getting 3 performances when Bey announced the Queen! I knew Bey was supposed to be singing w/ Tina, so when she said Queen I thought they had added Aretha. I really thought we were in for a surprise, and I would have loved it! It doesn't matter how she got the nickname, it's been hers since before I was born. The only other persons ever to be nicknamed like that since were Mary (By puffy), Michael (by himself), and Prince (by his parents -- yes it's his real name)! I do think it was some kind of dig, or some idiotic mistake -- especially when she was ALSO performing that night.
BTW didn't Bey seem to upstage Tina. And don't say it's just Bey, when you have two performers like that, you can taylor your performance not to outshine the other if you are being considerate. It didn't help that Tina kept on wanting to sing what was supposed to be a part they wanted Beyonce to sing.
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khufu
Comment: anyone you name including Gladys Knight were influenced by Re RE....sorry...even they will admit that....see Aretha's music was instrumental in influencing the development of songwriting and vocal music......
Queen of Gospel: Mahalia Jackson
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khufu
Comment: King of Pop: Michael Jackson
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Name:
Grace12_34
Comment: Teigh, I said they are both VERY talented. Being talented does not translate into instant superstardom. There are probably a lot of people out there even more talented than these two, but they never got the right break or exposure. Luck has a lot to do with success in the entertainment world, no matter HOW talented a person is. Just look at all the no-talent azzes out there at the top of the heap. Platinum, I co-sign. As far as I'm concerned GLADYS KNIGHT IS THE MOST SOULFUL SINGER EVER, BAR NONE!!!
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PRDC
Comment: Aretha is a little too sensitive...Beyonce said Queen...not Queen of SOul...Like one of the comments Tina is known as the Queen of Soul, and Mary J Queen of Hip-Hop. No one will be able to take Arthea place, so don't be upset about a few little words....
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Aretha Franklin is the Queen...My mama told me so and I belive it to be true...When I bought my first box sets of CD's...Marvin was one and Aretha was two...She guards that title...I don't think I'll ever hear another voice like that...She was given that title not by some White folks but by all folks...When you say Queen and there's music playing and chicken frying, pies baking, collards simmering, cornbread sopping...You think of Aretha Franklin...Dayum my daughter knows who the Queen of soul is....She doesn't have to apologize to anybody...Call Tina the legend or sumthing...There's only one Queen everbody knows it...Bey's just trying to get the princess title...huh?
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Platinum
Comment: Khufu when I hear Gladys Knight admit that then I'll believe it. Gladys has been singing professionally just as long as Aretha Franklin. Prince the King of pop...... Gladys Knight the queen soul you see I make my own rules! case close lol
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Grace12_34
Comment: Here's a closeup of "The Queen of Soul." Hardly regal, IMO.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/photos/8/838a5020-5 ea7-42b3-b5a8-1791979fa9b9.html?SITE=1010WINS&SECTION= HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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khufu
Comment: Well Gladys has said that Re Re influenced her and also that Aretha had instrumental influence on music's development
Jean Carn has said it
lots of folks even white pioneers
Re Re might have started a lil earlier than Glady's cause Re Re performed with her daddy
also, doesnt matter who did it loner
Prince started after a lot of folks but his creative influence was far more substantial than lots of those who came before him....
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blackdragon
Comment: Aretha Franklin's ego is bigger than her breasts.
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khufu
Comment: PLATINUM you might not understand the culturally and artistic significance of these titles:
The are based on collective socio-cultural standards....
While Price is far more talented and gited than Michael J, the reason his is called King of Pop has more to do with MJ's beig the first to crossover and achieve greatness outside of certain musical categories.....he was first to achieve certain status in "Pop" catergory based on record sales, concerts and also in influencing a wide range of all kinds of performers
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khufu
Comment: While Gladys is a good singer...her influence on the music is not comparable to Re Re's...Re RE's influence on the development of music PERIOD is hers and hers alone
Ella Fitzgerald is a better singer but her influence is limited to Jazz
Minnie Ripperton was better than Re Re technically in some ways but her influence on the development of American music? None.
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khufu
Comment: AGain we are not talking "likes" or oreferences...sheet there are a bunch of Jazz singer's better than Re Re but realisitically no volaist has ever influenced world music as Re Re has....
that's like Janis Joplin...as short as her career was, she had an impact on music that is undeniable.
I think Prince is the most gifted and creative musical artists ever but his influence has NOT YET been fully achieved and appreciated across the board.....
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thatlilboy
Comment: ARETHA LOOK LIKE ONE OL SCHOOL BUS WITH THAT YELLOW MATERIAL ON AT THE GRAMMY'S... HER NECK WAS SWEATING AND WHEN SHE LIFTED UP HER ARM WHILE SINGING IT WAS SO BLACK IT LOOK LIKE A DARK CLOUD. AND DON'T GET ME TO START TALKING ABOUT HER BACK AND SHOULDERS! SHE WANTS RESPECT SHE BETTER RESPECT THE TREDMILL!
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khufu
Comment: ask any any any any musician who the QUEEN OF SOUL is and they will tell you
then ask them why...
it's not for some trivial, flippant reason.....nowadays they just throw these titles around with no real meaning
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gingerg
Comment: I love Ree. Always have and always will. However, she needs to sit her big azz down! Beyonce didn't mean anything by that. Instead of worrying about a perceived slight, she better back the hell up from the table sooner rather than later.
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JGGIRL
Comment: She did not say "Queen of Soul" like some publications are erroneously reporting. And who wrote the introduction anyway?
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khufu
Comment: what exactly did Beyonce call Tina?
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Name:
khufu
Comment: list of QUeens:
Re Re (of SOul)
Tina (of Rock)
Grace Jones (performance art)
Sylvester (Queendom)
Latifah (Rap)
Patti Labelle (something)
N
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AJarvis
Comment: PRDC, I agree with your first line completely and I also believe it boils down to perception/opinion. When Bey said "Queen" I in NO WAY considered or thought that Aretha was going to be performing, because she didn't say "Queen of Soul"....but again, that's my perception. I love Tina and Aretha, both of them in my book are Legends. As far as this issue is concerned, I am sure Beyonce had no intentions on "dissing" Aretha or even thought that she would be direspecting her by using the word queen. I wonder if Queen Elizabeth would have been offended if she were in the audience? How about Mary J. or Mahalia? Like someone posted earlier, it's just a nickname. I feel like I understand the musical and cultural impact that both of them had/still have....this is coming from someone who at 7 & 8 years old use to get beatings (every other day it seemed like) because my Mom cornrowed my hair and by the time I got home from school I had taken the cornrows out so I could "wear a blow out" because I idolized Tina. Thanks to Aretha, I've been singing since I was "knee high to a grasshopper." As I stated earlier, both are Legends in their own right and I appreciate the impact that they've had/still have and IMO Beyonce is 1 of the few artists that still show these legends respect.
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realuvbaby
Comment: STONY, I'm with you. When I heard B say that, ithought "I never heard Tina called "Queen" of ANYTHING. Even in her comeback, 10 or 12 years ago, she was never QUEEN of anything. Seems like B is constantly getting into trouble but I think it's still B Backlash. They tried to make B everything since 2006 and whenever there's some controversy in the industry, Bs name comes up -- You can't have your place in sun without getting burned. However, I believe the industry is guilty of making it's artists further insecure with that you're only as good as your last hit garbage. Aretha and MJB are the ONLY ones that come to recent memory being referred to as Queens. And you can't trust folk -- errybody looking for their 15 minutes and it's name is controversy. And all those so focused on Aretha's outside, it still doesn't change who she is as a person. Constant comments about her weight issues seem to be so mean spirited is so tiring. All those who ae a size 12 will not stay that way. Age and slow metabolism will affect most of us. And we should be building up instead of tearing down. I get so disappointed with disrespect for our elders and those who paved the way. How sad for us black folk. Even though Amy is a crackhead, white folk don't carry on about their own the way we do about our own. And if we don't love and respect our own, how DARE we expect love and respect from others.
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SilentJay
Comment: Tgen is right it's a NICKNAME, just like "God Father of Soul", "Kings of Comedy", and Greatest of All Time". I'm sorry but Ms. Franklin has LARGER problems to worry about than some arbritrary title.
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gingerg
Comment: Beyonce's intro clearly indicated that she respects the legends who came before. I'll venture to say that the term "queen" is not what upset Ree. She's twisted because the weight loss program that she announced last year obviously isn't working for her and she had to look at a svelte Beyonce and Tina (well, maybe not so much in the tummy), but you get my drift. Those sisters were looking great from generation to generation. That is what is fueling Ree's frustration.
Instead of getting upset with them, she better getting hopping mad with herself and get into a medically supervised program before that weight kills her.
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Fran
Comment: First of all, Tina is the Queen of Rock and Roll. And, this is just as bad as rapper beef, Im the greatest rapper alive!! Who cares. For me being apart of generation X, I think Mary J Blige is the Queen of Soul. She just feel slighted because that was a hell of a performance. Tina still rocking it! and Aretha.....welll. Stop hating Aretha. Truthfully no one cares.
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khufu
Comment: SILENT how old are you?
It's not the same......
Name: SilentJay
Comment: Tgen is right it's a NICKNAME, just like "God Father of Soul", "Kings of Comedy", and Greatest of All Time". I'm sorry but Ms. Franklin has LARGER problems to worry about than some arbritrary title.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Imma do a khufu on khufu...
Name: khufu Comment: list of QUeens: Re Re (of SOul) Tina (of Rock) Grace Jones (performance art) Sylvester (Queendom) Latifah (Rap) Patti Labelle (something) N...What do you mean Patti Labelle (something)?....She's gotta be the Queen of sumthing...What about Diana Ross the Queen of Pop music...Janet Jackson Queen of whisper sing and dance....huh, huh, Chaka Khan Queen of funk...Mary J Queen of....
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: And if she doesn't do something about the weight soon, we will all be on here with accolades for a beloved Queen who has passed too soon. And I'm not talking about being a size 2. I'll never be that again. I'm talking about portion control, moderate regular exercise and less stress. Like I said before, I love Ree, but I get tired of being embarrassed for her because of the way she looks.
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khufu
Comment: Okay...FRAN, respectfully: upon what criteris does Generation X and you arrive at Mary J Blige as Queen of SOul?
Previous generations have used cultural, historical, artistic and social criterion/criteria to bestow such titles.
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khufu
Comment: Yeah Yeqah BOOT....so Chake as Queen of Funk..I will agree..i forgot that one...however, you dont think that can go to either Patti or Nona Hendryx..
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Name:
khufu
Comment: nah BOOT forget that one...CHAKA is the one...she definitely reached a status in record sales and influence that Nona didnt nor the sister who sang with that group....Rosie...Stone...what's the 70s funk group that was white and Black...
Oh yeah: Sly was Godfather of Funk....then what was Clinton?
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Name:
khufu
Comment: FRAN correction: criteria
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: I've been a fan of Chaka, Aretha, Patti and Gladys all of my life. Their voices are distinct and magical.
I want them all to stay around for a long, long time. That means taking care of yourself. Look at what happened in Patti's family with her sisters dying her being diagnosed with diabetes. She will tell anybody about the changes she had to make. Ree better climb down off that throne for a minute and get real about it.
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NYCsoul
Comment: Again, where and to whom did Aretha make these statements to? It seems everyone is just trouncing Aretha on some comments that we don't even know she said. I find it difficult to believe that Aretha would release a statement about something so trival. Again, where is the proof that Aretha actually said this?
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Name:
khufu
Comment: BOOT Mother's Finest was the group
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Name:
Angel
Comment: I'm confused..isn't Tina Turner the Queen of Rock and Roll?! And Mary J is the Queen of Hip Hop, not Soul.
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Name:
Angel
Comment: Khufu - Who was the Earl of Funk? For some reason that is in my head. I've had too many cups of coffee, so it could just be the voices in my head....
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SilentJay
Comment: I'm 30 khufu, and your point is?
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Name:
CrazzeeGyrl
Comment: Somehow I knew she would make a big deal out of that. When I heard Beyonce say it, I was "uh, oh". Oh, well.
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Name:
6footah
Comment: Talk about PRIDE! That made Aretha look ugly.
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Name:
amethyst
Comment: PlanetRock - You are wrong talking about the Queen of Popeye's. LOL We saw Aretha in concert a few years ago and she had on a spaghetti-strapped gown. My friend said "Those straps must be made of stainless steel." Realuvbaby mentions that we shouldn't make fun of or criticize Aretha. The EUR is an entertainment site and we joke about a lot of folks. That doesn't mean we don't love, honor and respect them, and want the best for them. Last summer EUR ran a story about Aretha postponing her wedding and working on getting healthier. Many posters applauded her efforts and hoped that she would be succesful. I still hope that she gets it together before it's too late. We've lost other Black legends due to health and weight problems: Ron Winans, Barry White, Luther Vandross, etc. Everyone is not meant to be skinny, but we all should strive to be healthy.
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Name:
Southernbelle
Comment: I detect some 30 year old hate still brewing. Sorry Re it really ain't that serious?? Geesh.
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Name:
indipindintthnkr
Comment: Boots and others, I agree with you. ReeRee IS the Queen. I fault Beyonce's ignorance and I attribute that to her money makin folks. Just shake yo azz and don't worry bout nothin else! Being an BLACK entertainer, She should of known these things and if she had, whoever wrote that "the Queen" bit for Tina, Bey should of corrected them. More than likely (I think) it was written by some ignorant twentysomething YT person that don't know nothing about the Queen, fried chicken, collard greens and corn bread...
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Name:
rre1239
Comment: what about the king of rocks and blunts?...i meant, the king of r&b, bobby brown!
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Name:
TGen
Comment: NYCsoul, I disagree with you. I think this is very consistent with the Aretha people have come to know over the years. I can SO see her making this statement, not a stretch at all to me really.
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Name:
WordUp
Comment: Aretha gotta be regrettin her comment right about now. It made her look like a fat azz egotistical maniac. And that dumb azz Beyonce needs to speak at a minimum cuz she foreva sayin dumb shyt that offends people.
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Southernbelle
Comment: Patti's the Queen of Divas. IMO, she's the only non-Tranny to perfect the Diva attitude. Or she can be the Queen of big spiked hair. Does anyone remember her in the 80's? LOL.
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Name:
BigBlackRod
Comment: khufu Comment: BOOT Mother's Finest was the group...
I remember back in '76, when Mother's Finest was opening for AC/DC. I cut yards to go to the concert. I knew nothing of MF then; but, after Joyce Kennedy rocked them White folks to their knees, I made it a point to get up on them! "Another Mother Further" is one of the Top Ten rockinest CD's you could ever wish to hear...PEACE.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Not to be disrespectful SILENT
suggestion do some research on Black music and American Music.....then we can talk
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Name:
CrazzeeGyrl
Comment: KUFU - Mother's Finest was so good....check this out >>>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;You stay awake half the night
Love is just a perfect chance
It must be love that’s on your mind
You’re doin’ things you wouldn’t before, oh...
Love will make you oh, so happy
Inside, ha, ha, ha (Ha...ha...ha...)
Love will make you oh, so sad
Make you cry, ha, ha, ha
Oh...changes
That’s what love makes you do, hoo...
Changes
That’s what love makes one do
Oh...oh...oh...oh...
Uh, ooh...
Wonder if it’s real this time
Or just another half-goodbye
You walk around starry eyed
Can’t believe that love would hurt again, oh...love
Love (Love) will (Will) make (Make) you (You) oh, so happy (Oh, so happy)
Inside (Inside), ha, ha, ha (Ha...ha...ha...ha...)
Love (Will) will (Make) make (You) you oh, so sad (Oh, so sad)
Make you cry (Make you cry), ha, ha, ha (Oh, yes, it will)
Changes
That’s what love makes you do, hoo...
Changes
Oh, what love makes one do
Love will make you oh, so happy
Inside (Inside), ha, ha, ha (Ha...ha...ha..oh, ha...)
Love will make you oh, so sad (Oh...oh...)
Make you cry (Oh, ooh, make you cry), ha, ha, ha (Ooh, make you cry)
(Love) Love (Will) will (Make) make (You) you oh, so happy
Inside (Inside), ha, ha, ha (Oh...oh...yeah...)
Love (Love) will (Will) make you (Make you) oh, so sad (Oh, so sad)
Make you cry (Ooh, yes, it will), ha, ha, ha (Ooh, yes, it will)
(If you’ve ever been in love you know what I mean)
Love (Love) will (Will) make (Make you) you oh, so happy (Oh, so happy)
Inside
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Name:
B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Well...Amy is the Queen of drunk...Whitney is the Queen of sumthing...Laila Ali is a the Queen of box...Freddy Mecury was the Queen of Queen...
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Name:
khufu
Comment: best music in the world
http://bossanovaclassics.calabashmusic.com/
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Name:
khufu
Comment: hey BOOT Freddie Mercury (wh was from Lebanon) was one of the greatest vocalists ever actually..in top 5 for sure
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Name:
khufu
Comment: that's because she hung (no pun intended) with Sylvester
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: Patti's the Queen of Divas. IMO, she's the only non-Tranny to perfect the Diva attitude. Or she can be the Queen of big spiked hair. Does anyone remember her in the 80's? LOL.
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Name:
PTown
Comment: This is not the bloods and crips. I don' get the impression that Beyonce meant anything by that. How many black women call one another 'queen'. That's all she said. I find it hard to believe that it was Beyonce's intent to offend. I really do.
Come on now, Retha.
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Name:
CrazzeeGyrl
Comment: B00T - Whitney is Queen of Crack
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Name:
asize12
Comment: GTFOH!!! She's just playin', right? If she's serious, then WOW! How petty is that??? If she don't go sit her as*s down somewhere! Look Aretha...err'body & their momma KNOWS that you are THE QUEEN of Soul...let it go boo-boo...let it go.
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asize12
Comment: Besides...Beyonce just said "The Queen" she didn't say "The Queen of SOUL!" So go lay down Aretha...
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Renegade
Comment: Khufu, Freddie Mercury was born on the island of Zanzibar.
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khufu
Comment: Thanks I always thought he was Lebanese.....
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SilentJay
Comment: Well no disrespect to you Khufu but you missed the whole damn point. YES Aretha Franklin is one of the greatest R&B/Soul singers in American music history and if she doesn't know that by now than I feel sorry for her. But in the grand universal scheme of things its just nickname like all the others I mentioned before and I don't need a music history lesson from YOU or any body else!
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asize12
Comment: >gingerg, didn't Patti's sisters die from breast cancer??? >crazzee, in the words of Whitney, and I quote "Crack is Wack!" Speaking of Whit, they showed her at the Grammy's and she looked really good. I hope she makes a comeback...I saw her video "All the Man That I'll Ever Need" and she looked beautiful and sang heavenly...
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Renegade
Comment: no prob. khufu. he was born (Farrokh Bulsara) on the African island to Indian parents. Africa is where he got his "soul".
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: No...Aretha Franklin was bestowed that title by a proclamation...Only she and she alone can be referred to as the Queen of Soul. Calling anybody else by that title is blashemous(sp)...and punishable by death...Death by being dipped in egg and shaken in seasoned flour and dropped in a vat of hot oil and fried until golden brown...
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khufu
Comment: and that's the problem with the youth and why their folk heros will be the Winehouses of the world
Name: SilentJay
Comment: I mentioned before and I don't need a music history lesson from YOU or any body else!
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khufu
Comment: BOOT LOL
and eaten by Re Re
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khufu
Comment: Re Re's title was bestowed because of her real and actual contributions to American music
MAs fantastic of a singer as Whintney is, she has not contributed anything to the development of music...
Mary J? Please.......
Beyonce...please....
I guess Cukture and/or Public Culture wasnt offered at a ot of universitites to the Generation Xers
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khufu
Comment: that's "Culture" and "Popular Culture"
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SistaBigBone69
Comment: Just breathe Aretha. Everybody knows you are the "Queen". No one said anything about her looking like a past due pregnant canary bird. Exhale Aretha Exhale.
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travis
Comment: boot and khuf.. Patti would be our modern day Queen of R&B or 1st lady of R&B.. Who does that oversized lemon drop think she is .. She literally thinks she is a real Queen. It is just a nickname and back in the day when jet and ebony were declaring who is the new queen of soul natalie or re re. they should have passed the quantlet then . the title should be passed on through next generation or who is relevent currently . we have quite a few queens of soul ,,Patti for sure , Gladys , Chaka.. Aretha can't even do aretha anymore. Patti would rip her apart
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: OOO BOOT! Can we have fries with that? lol!
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Name:
khufu
Comment: TRAVIS Historical accomplishments and achievements arent over turned..that's another problem facing Genertation X...I assume youre between 25 and 35?
PHistory cant be over turned or discarded....
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Name:
khufu
Comment: ask Patti who her influences were and see what she says?
yall need to see that VH1 Special.....all give honor and credit to Re Re
she was and is who she was and is....
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Name:
SistaBigBone69
Comment: I never forget....Aretha was in concert in Detroit at the Joe Louis Arena. We waited for two hours for her to come out and when she did by the time she got to her third song there was 100 people if that (including me) standing in front of the stage. Everybody else cleared out. When she realized we were the only people there she walked off the stage. I was pis.s.ed for several reasons. She should have kept her azz on stage and continued performing and we were not sure why she was disrepected like that. The people walked out on her while she was singing "respect." We drove over three hundred miles to see her perform and she took my money and ran.
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khufu
Comment: LOL SIstaBigBone...you should email her and ask for your money back
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NYCsoul
Comment: TGen> Just because you believe she said it does not make it so. So far, nobody has come up with which outlet did Aretha make these commens to or what paper she was quoted in. This sounds like some petty, made up shat and everybody is just eating it up.
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SOILL
Comment: Beyonce was going by a script. Either they forgot the "of Rock" part or she forgot to say it. Simple as that. I ain't never heard Tina Turner referred to anything other than the Queen of Rock and Roll." Simple mistake folkses is blowing out of proportion. But it makes for good read.
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TGen
Comment: NYCsoul, true, just because I believe it does not make it so, lol. But my point was it's not a stretch to believe it's true, based on what I've come to know about Aretha Franklin. Your post(s) made it seem like we're talking about a sweet little lady with a humble attitude and her saying this would just be oh so unbelievable. My point was that is not the case in this instance. That's all I meant.
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MsFresno
Comment: FTFO @ PLANET ROCK LOL THE QUEEN OF POPEYES OR BREAST MILK. mY arteries clog whenever i look at Aretha.
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Name:
adifferentpath
Comment: wow. the comments on the board are interesting. this IS an entertainment site, so hey! In reading the article, a couple of things stand out:
1) Aretha is not really feeling %*$!ed or angry, she's just noting her title. She has earned this title whether generation x, y, zebra get it or not. Ultimately, she said she loves Bey and Tina so keep it moving folks.
2) the headline seems to be really influencing folks on here but I'm weary of the exact words Aretha said. Where'd this story originate. Just keeping up some mess.
Next: Aretha knows she's big. Dang.
Also, I don't care if she DID slap her backup singer. Why was she slapped? Was she getting "out of pocket?" Shooot, Diana tells folks not to call her Diana but Ms. Ross! So hey! These models and rap females' out here pummeling folks with cellphones and slapping peoples heads to the white meat and it ain't nuttin' so hey! These living legends have been through the fire (pun intended)and don't want no cure's for their love hangovers, they want R-E-S-P-E-C-T!!...In a business where people are cutthroat and backstabbing. The next young thang is always vying for your spot, etc. and frankly is just a product of some money machine whereas these ladies have maintained their careers for ages! Gone, head 'Retha! Handle yours!
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gingerg
Comment: Ree did right the couple of times I've seen her perform and she earned standing ovations. I love when she sits down to the piano and goes to church. Makes you want to waive your hand.
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Name:
GQ_Boo
Comment: Yeah she is clearly lunching .....Tina is Queen of Rock & Roll plain and simple she needs to stop tripping over titles and lose some weight.
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Name:
DC_Diva
Comment: So what was wrong with Whitney calling Bobby the King of R&B???
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NYCsoul
Comment: TGen> Please do not put words in my fonts. I stated clearly that Aretha can act spoiled but hell, I don't know her personally. Do you? I just find the whole thing absurd and seeing close to 100+ posts on this subject, it seems some are taking this quite personally. Where is Tina Turner or Beyonce's response? adifferentpath> Thank you. Nobody has yet to comment exactly where did this story came from. I swear, we take unsubstaniated comments and run with it without investigating if there is any truth to it.
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4mybabygirl
Comment: I hoping that Aretha is not jealous, because Tina is looking really good for her age. Sounds like Re Re was mad because she was not a apart of the skinny b*tch club. Somebody should have told her queen or no queen how tacky she looked. Then, she has the nerve to be in Jet Magazine talking about her losing weight. I couldn't tell at the Grammy's. It must have been a couple of ounces. Then to wear a spagetti string dress. Someone, please pray for her. If she is the Queen of anything then it is GHETTO! Because there is definately no class there.
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Name:
Stephanie
Comment: I like some of Arthea's old stuff but I prefer Gladys over her. Patti is cool but her Diva attitude goes too far sometimes. Aretha has let herself go and instead of worrying about a title, she should worry about her excessive weight gain and how God awful she looks. Did anyone see when they did that tribute to her on BET and she took the stage to sing all of her hits? She looked like an elephant trying to the do electric slide. She must have 2 hearts because there is no way one heart can pump enough blood throughout her big azz!
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khufu
Comment: see GINGER that was one of the things hat Re Re brought to hew music as vocalist AND pianist....she brought that gospel flavor to Rand B......SHE DID
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Chain of FOols
Day Dreaming
RESPECT
SPanish Harlem
and before that
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Aretha Louise Franklin (born March 25, 1942) is an American singer, songwriter, and pianist. She is known to the music world as "The Queen of Soul" and is affectionately called "Sister Ree" by her fans. She is renowned for her soul recordings but is also adept at jazz, rock, blues, pop, gospel, and even opera.[1] She is widely acclaimed for her passionate, soulful vocal style, which is aided by a massive and powerful vocal range.
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khufu
Comment: She is one of only three musicians (the others being Madonna and Marvin Gaye) who have placed a single on every charted position of the Billboard top ten pop singles chart.
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khufu
Comment: Adept at the piano as well as having a gifted voice, Franklin became a child prodigy. By the age of fourteen, she was given a record deal with Checker Records, where her father recorded his sermons and gospel vocal recordings and issued The Gospel Soul of Aretha Franklin in 1956. Her earlier influences included Clara Ward and Mahalia Jackson, both of whom spent a lot of time in Aretha's home.
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khufu
Comment: After being offered contracts from Motown and RCA, Franklin signed with Columbia Records in 1960. Her recordings during that time reflected a jazz influence inspired by Washington and hardly reflected on her gospel roots. Franklin initially scored a few hits on Columbia including her version of "Rock-A-Bye Your Baby (With A Dixie Melody)", which peaked at number 37 on the Billboard Pop Singles chart in 1961, and the Top 10 R&B hits, "Today I Sing The Blues", "Won't Be Long" and "Operation Heartbreak". However, by the end of 1966, with little commercial success obtained during six years on Columbia and desperate for a sound, she accepted an offer to sign with Atlantic Records. According to Franklin years later, "they made me sit down on the piano and the hits came."
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khufu
Comment: In 1967 Franklin issued her first Atlantic single, "I Never Loved A Man (The Way I Love You)", a blues ballad that introduced listeners to her gospel style. Produced by Jerry Wexler, the song became Franklin's breakthrough single reaching the Top 10 on the Hot 100, and holding the #1 spot for 7 weeks on Billboard's R&B Singles chart. The B-side to the single, "Do Right Woman, Do Right Man", charted on the R&B side, and introduced a more gospel element to Franklin's developing sound.
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Name:
SweetieDarlin
Comment: Co-sign A Different Path...in fact saves me from writing so much in this topic LOL!!!
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Name:
khufu
Comment: * On January 3, 1987, she became the first woman to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
* In May 1987, she was awarded an honorary 'Doctor of Musicology' degree from the University of Detroit.
* In September, 1999, she was awarded The National Medal of Arts by President Clinton.
* In 2004, Rolling Stone Magazine ranked her #9 on their list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time.[5]. To give perspective to this honor, only the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Elvis Presley, the Rolling Stones, Chuck Berry, Jimi Hendrix, James Brown, and Little Richard finished ahead of her on this list. Ray Charles finished at number ten, right behind Franklin.
* In 2005, she was awarded The Presidential Medal of Freedom by President George W. Bush.
* In 2005, she became the second woman (Madonna being the first, a founding member) to be inducted into the UK Music Hall of Fame.
* On May 13, 2006, she was presented with an honorary Doctor of Music degree by the Berklee College of Music.
* On May 14, 2007, she was presented with an honorary Doctor of Music degree from the University of Pennsylvania.
* Is an honorary member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.
* She is the youngest recipient of a Kennedy Center Honor.
* First black woman to appear on the cover of Time magazine.
* On February 8, 2008, Franklin was honored as MusiCares "Person of the Year".
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khufu
Comment: Grammy Awards
Franklin has won twenty Grammy Awards in total during her nearly half-century long career (she first charted in 1961), and holds the record for most Best Female R&B Vocal Performance award with eleven to her name (including eight consecutive awards from 1968 to 1975 - the first eight awarded in that category).
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Name:
thatbklyngirl
Comment: everybody done lost their damn minds.. first Natalie "4gotbout my own crack pipe" Coles now its Aretha "pass me the biscuits & gravey" Franklin. Dont get me wrong...Aretha is my girl but she just mad the shine wasn't on her mighty LARGE frame. If she was smart, she would have lost pounds, like she claimed she was gonna, and people would have been saying "Wow Tina is fine, but did you
'Retha she's looking good" But every time she comes out looking a hot a$$ mess.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Gladys Knight began recording after RE RE by the way
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Name:
NYCsoul
Comment: Khufu> Don't forget that at one point, the Best R&B Female Vocalist for the Grammy was once called 'the Aretha', when Ree was winning it from 68-75. No other female artist has been able to accomplish that.
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khufu
Comment: NYC SOUL they dont understand who Re Re is and what she done.....:--)
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Name:
Olivia
Comment: Hold up Aretha has nothing to be jealous of. She is not only The Queen who can sing gospel, opera, jazz, country and R&B she also sang for MLK to help attract people to meetings. She sang at Martin Luther King's funeral. So she’s more than a singer, she’s an ICON of the highest magnitude. Aretha the First WOMAN to be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is jealous? Sorry folks I agree with Aretha (who is the best who ever done it fat or skinny). When I heard Bey say queen I said what?....But the thing I didn’t like when Bey said (after naming all our black divas) this: “There is ONE legend who has the essence of all of those things: the glamour, the soul, the passion, the strength, the talent” and to say that Tina is ALL these things alluded to the fact that the other women lack something and didn’t have all those qualities which is ridiculous. People just don't know how to honor folks in their own right anymore ......to me was a bad choice of words. I remember when they said Timberlake was the new king of pop. MJ let people know Da Hell. When they tried to push Keyisha as the new Queen of Hip Hop Soul..... MJB said hell naw'll. While people think Aretha is overreaching, me sitting home on my sofa when I saw the intro I thought HUH, Aretha’s not going to like that? So did others, sounds like she received several inquiries about it and released a statement accordingly. I am not a paid spokesman for Aretha. LOL
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Name:
Angel
Comment: Olivia - Well....I have NEVER thought of Aretha as glamorous....She's definitely an ICON worthy of the highest accolades, but glamorous?! I always saw her as more plain janish back in the day.....and now, well.....let's just say she's larger than life. LOL
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soulmusic101
Comment: Let's see Mariah Carey was influenced by Minnie Riperton. Glady's was in a family group as a child. Re Re is the Queen of Soul. I would give Tina the Queen of Rock or Queen of the Comeback.
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gingerg
Comment: To tell the truth, I wasn't listening that closely to Beyonce's intro. At the end of the day, all of the sisters are fierce in their own right. Poor choice of words? Perhaps. Aretha should have shown some class and just disregarded it. In the end, this mess is going to make her look bad because Tina is going to fly back to Europe and continue living her glamorous life, Beyonce is on to the next gig and Ree will still be smoking hot about nothing.
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gretdawg
Comment: I wonder if anyone has ever thought of having a True Legends concert series with Aretha, Patti, Tina, Gladys, Diana, etc. That would be amazing. It also would be amazing if they could work together without killing each other for their egos.
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Olivia
Comment: Angel*****
Aretha was very glamorous back in the day. She wore the sequence gowns and the whole nine. She was one of the first big name black stars to wear African inspired clothes and wear her hair braided and an Afro ( along with Cecily Tyson). Beside if someone thought she wasn’t, you still should get on stage and allude to it.
She was not always this big. I try not to criticize people other people’s weight because ya never know where a person is in their quest to lose the weight. A person could have just lost 2, 3, 5, 10, 15 pounds and I don’t know it because I don’t know them.
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Olivia
Comment: I meant "Beside if someone thought she wasn’t, you still shouldn't get on stage and allude to it.
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Name:
TGen
Comment: NYCsoul, whoa! Hold up, I'm not trying to "put words in your fonts" lol. I suggest you re-read your first post: "For years, Aretha has been a little leery of the press because she's been misquoted...I know Aretha is used to being spoiled but she's always been classy as she has never publicly 'dissed' other singers. I'm a little suspicious about this so-called 'statement'." There is NO one who can read that comment and not gather that you apparently believe this is not in Aretha's character. I disagreed with you, plain and simple, based on what I've read, what I've heard, and the unprofessional way she cancelled a concert a while back (that's my personal ordeal.) But just FYI, this story was reported by the Associated Press, it was on the front page of the AJC website. It's as credible as any other story. And beyond that, I'm DEFINTELY not taking this personally, couldn't give a dang either way really, lol. YOU on the other hand, seem to be allowing your affinity for Ms. Franklin to cloud your judgement. Toodles.
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BigBlackRod
Comment: "I wonder if anyone has ever thought of having a True Legends concert series with Aretha, Patti, Tina, Gladys, Diana, etc. That would be amazing. It also would be amazing if they could work together without killing each other for their egos."
Everybody on that list would be fine, except for Diana, cause Diana can't really sing, at least not to the level of those other legends. I remember when Patti and Diana shared a stage before, and it got ugly...PEACE.
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gingerg
Comment: I do believe that Patti's sisters died of breast cancer. Ladies, get your mammograms annually (at 40+). Whether you feel a lump/bump or not, just go.
One of my co-workers was recently diagnosed after a routine test, so you never know. It only takes about 15 minutes.
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gingerg
Comment: The Associated Press is reporting that the statement was released by Aretha's publicist. They are usually on target.
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Patti would slap Diana, step over her and keep singing. That's my girl!
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Name:
rre1239
Comment: oh girl need to get over it. if anything, she is defintely the queen of chins!
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khufu
Comment: again, even in entertainment, historical ignorance is dangerous
knowing what came beore even in music is important..
HISTORY HISTORY HISTORY BLACK PEOPLE
RE RE RE Re Re Re
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Name:
khufu
Comment: what is amazing is how some know as far back as Mary J and that's it...that's funny and sad...Generation X
X is unknown
X is Cancellation
LOL
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Name:
NYCsoul
Comment: TGen> Okay you win. It's serious for you and not for me. We'll agree to disagree. Yes, I like Aretha and I never said the woman could not do any wrong. If you took a couple of posts to mean that somehow my judgment is 'cloudy' so be it. The point is that I really don't know the woman that way to say the things that are being said here about her character. Aretha herself said that she used to being 'spoiled' hence my comment. I got that directly in one of her rare interviews she gave on tv. But like I said, it's not that serious to me. If she said what she said, okay. Life goes on. I still think people are overreacting about nothing. If Aretha wants to get her pressure up, let it be her, not me. lol.
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Name:
NYCsoul
Comment: gingerg> thank you for finally answering the question that no one wanted to answer. Khufu> ignorance is dangerous, isn't it?
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Name:
DOne
Comment: Of course she has an ego! Name one major star that doesn't. Ego goes with the territory
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Name:
MetroScribe
Comment: While not the classiest way for Ree Ree to nurse her bruised ego, I do wonder if Beyonce has any sense sometimes, thus the need to be protected by Daddy (and at a later time, Jay Z perhaps?) at all times. She should think before she speaks. I know this is beyond petty--and really, Miss Aretha should just get over herself--but this IS Beyonce's industry and navigating egos just comes with the territory.
I'm not a fan, but she's talented and hard worker. I'd hate it if instead of being wiser she instead just learns how to be a more efficient trained-seal.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: RE RE
Rock Steady baby
While I day dream about all you are to us and we
R E S P E C T
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Name:
khufu
Comment: NYCSOUL you know better...you know folks here dont care if anything is true or false...this is a gossip blog, ba-beeee
wanting what you want (factual proof)
is like me wanting what I want (historical validity and historical truth)
it aint happening for the most part LOL
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Name:
sweetNpetiteGApeach
Comment: It would have been befitting for the Queen of Soul to not have commented on something that is so trivial. Silence speaks volumes at the appropriate time.
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Name:
2ndChance
Comment: Aretha is probably jealous because Beyonces and Tina's performance was used as top billing for the awards show. Plus, their performance lived up to the hype. Beyonce didn't call Tina the "Queen of Soul". Geesh! Just another reason for the press to show black women in a negative light by printing catty comments. The award show performances were awesome and this is what they want to talk about.
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Name:
Fran
Comment: Aretha needs to shut up and give Beyonce and Tina some R-E-S-P-E-C-T.
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Name:
justafu
Comment: The QUEEN OF SOUL needs to lose some WEIGHT!!!
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Name:
Penelope
Comment: There are so many things that I want to say for a laugh...but I'll refrain. Ree Ree is Queen (size) and I'd like to see her stay around a little while longer...but the sister has got to be a candidate for just about ever ailment out there based on her size. And she chooses to get mad at this.
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Name:
MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Aretha is correct. She is the Queen of Soul and Beyonce with her dumb %*$ shoulda known better, straight up. Sista Re was right to check her azz.
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Name:
ladybyrd
Comment: Mother> I agree with you! And I disagree with the rest of the board. When you hear Queen or Queen of Soul you first think of Aretha, God Father of Soul James Brown, The Greatest of All-Time or The Greatest Mohamed Ali, King of Pop Michael Jackson, The King Elvis Presley, King of Rock-n-Roll Little Richard or Chuck Berry and the list goes on. I love Glady's and if you watch her interviews she will say, "I was influenced by the "The Queen Aretha Franklin". peace...
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travis
Comment: Big fat az$ Aretha needs to concentrate on pushing herself away from the table instead of this mess. First of all i will say she was the ORIGINAL Queen of soul subsequently we have had many Tina being one AND THE PRESENT ONE MISS PATTI LABELLE who still can outsing these girls out here today and is presently relevent in today’s music spectrum.Aretha is an arrogant, obnoxious, nasty acting , non dressing , fat azz. The fake title “queen ” is just a nickname one which should be passed on we each generation or to whomever is relevent w/in that decade. Aretha get over yourself which as we can all see will be a mighty mighty feat. Fatty
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dynamite310
Comment: Actually I think Ms. Franklin had a little green-eyed envy when she saw the performance of Beyonce and Ms. Turner so the decided to bring on "another" dramatic temper tantrum about Beyonce calling Tina a "Queen". I strongly advice everyone to read the autobiography that Ms. Franklin wrote about herself that was written almost 10 years ago. Ms. Franklin has a problem with everyone from Dianna Ross, Gladys Knight, etc. She really need to stop being so petty and focus on losing that weight so that she can put on great live performances, like the other veterans in the industry.
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Name:
ERICJOHNERIC
Comment: Aretha needs not to worry about being the queen , she needs to loose some weight , She looked like a Giant Peach . When your tits are the size of a third work country , stop wearin strapless !!!!!!! Cut one of those things off and she could stop hunger worldwide . Word of advice ReeRee email Star Jones , !!!!!!!
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BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: I hope that Aretha just get it together health wise. From what I have read Bey, Bey should be grateful it was her and not Patti Labelle. Miss Patti would of really let her have it. Can't they just all get along :)
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Name:
yonkewi
Comment: I must admit, when Beyonce introduced, "the queen," it was one of those 'huh' moments, I was thinking to myself, "I thought she was singing with Tina Turner." Don't get me wrong, Tina is a baaad woman but, the "queen of soul" title does belong to Aretha Franklin but, i'm sad to hear that it has spun out into a mess.
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ladybyrd
Comment: travis> These titles are NOT passed on to other generations. What other KING or THE KING do you know besides ELVIS. And whites are not letting that moniker go to NO ONE ELSE...period. All Divas have attitude, because they can. Anita Baker and Luther fell out. And as someone else put it, Beyonce had better been glad it was PATTI's foot she was stepping on or this story would have read a bit differently.
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Name:
Platinum
Comment: Beyonce did nothing wrong, and she better not apologize for saying the "Q" word. Don't some of these raunchy female rappers called themselves Queen Bee? Some of you are making way too much out of this, if Beyonce wants to consider Tina Tuner her queen, idol, icon or whateva that her business. In my own tiny little world Gladys Knight is the QUEEN of SOUL. I don't think Patti would've reacted the way Aretha Franklin allegedly did, I would like to think of Patti Labelle being above this type of foolishness. To all the past legends I love 'em all and I thank them for paving the way.
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NYCsoul
Comment: Aretha is entitled to express her opinion like everybody else. Why is she being told to 'shut up' or 'get over it' and lambasted about her weight and her breasts? If the truth be told, Aretha is more culturally relevant than Tina Turner. What has Tina Turner contributed to black folks except the fact that Ike Turner used her as a punching bag? Tina has never been the Queen of anything until her comeback in the eighties. And even then, she was barely referred to as the Queen of Rock N Roll, a title for a genre that was already on its way out by the 90s. Aretha, on the other hand, has had this moniker for YEARS and now folks want to tell her shut up. Interesting, people are calling her childish and petty but the comments here directed towards her can be interpreted in the same fashion. Aretha is being sensitive but I really don't get all the degrading comments about her. Beyonce, on the other hand, can use some lessons in black music history and show some respect for ALL those that came before her.
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Name:
TRIPLETHREAT
Comment: D@M I KNEW TINA WAS IN HER 60'S BUT SHE CLOSER TO 70 I WOULD STILL DO HER BIG WHEELS KEEP ON TURNING AND PRINCE WAS INSPIRED BY JIMMY HENDRIX GUITAR PLAY LIKE WHITE BOY SLASH
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Name:
TRIPLETHREAT
Comment: GINGERG I AM NOT A DOCTOR BUT I'LL CHECK YOUR BREAST FOR YOU AND I GIVE GREAT MESSAGES LIKE A MASSUES
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SewRite
Comment: NYCsoul>Hold on, now. I know I'm late boarding this ship, but I just read this. I agree with your point about being knowledgeable about music history. But as for the comments about Ms. Franklin's weight...She has publicly stated that she's been attempting to lose weight. What a lot of the posters are saying is that, in their opinion, she should be concerned about more SERIOUS issues in her own life, namely her weight, then getting all "bent out of shape" over a "title". They also feel that her choice of clothing is not flattering to a woman of her size. I, too, agree with this veiwpoint. To me, Aretha has more meaty matters on her plate(no pun intended) than getting all riled up about society dubbing her a "queen".
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Comment: SewRite> Aretha has always battled her weight so there's nothing shocking about that. But because she is dealing with her weight issues, she's not allowed to express how she feels about an issue, as 'petty' as some people feel it is? Who am I to say what is and what isn't important to someone? It's one thing to say she needs to lose weight but it's quite another to demean her the way some of the comments from some of the previous posts have. I mean, attack the message but not the messenger.
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Comment: NYCsoul>True. And, I need to clarify that while I agree with most of the posters, I never personally stated that she was wrong to EXRESS herself concerning this matter. I just don't understand it. But that's me, and whether I understand her reasoning or not, she STILL HAS THE RIGHT to express herself just as I do. I do feel that her weight/health issue, by comparison, is more important than some "ego feeding diva recognition" title. But, that's my opinion to which I am entitled.
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Comment: ladybird// when i here someone say the king I and most people think Micheal JACKSON..So that refutes that argument. Secondly to the posters that are sad because people are bashing fat Az$ ARetha it has been clear in the posts. if she were a nice person overall like gladys , patti , tina. Aretha has long since been known for her over the top diva tantrums, rudeness to fans and fellow artists and musicians. i have actually seen it 1st hand.. people have been letting her get away with it but enough is enough now especially since she is not even that major today. For those who say the young ones should know their musical history???? How crazy is that or are you! Just because Aretha came b4 Bey (not a Bey fan but)does not mean she has to idolize Aretha there were many artists out at the same time and b4 Aretha. I like sarah vaugh & Ella. When aretha(lard az%) was out i did enjoy her music but was not a fan does that make me ignorant of my musical history? NO. Some people may not like soul music or singers who belt or hollar if u will like the aretha's, chaka, gladys's whitneys or patti's. I luv belters but that is my choice. Bey apparently choose TIna as her queen,. As i at the time of Aretha choose 2 side with Natalie .which has long since been changed to Miss Patti Labelle as the queen. Aretha needs 2 realize its nice 2 b important but its more important 2b nice.. She is hung up on the wrong things that is why she is soooo fat. The nasty remarks are made about her because she is soo rude and nasty herself it is just a way 2 give it back 2 her, The main point is that she looks very crazy taking this Queen thing so serious. If i were presenting my mother with an award an she sings. I intro her as the queen . she is the queen of my world. would fat azz have a problem with that.Triffling
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Comment: travis>Good words!! I concur, Aretha believes the hype and that's her problem. And, Diana Ross is another one with a bad case of "diva-itis"!!! She recently got booed by fans that weren't having it!! I wonder if she drank a glass of milk with that slice of "humble pie"?
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