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Teigh
Comment: It's really a shame that this is not the law, however this is also COMMON SENSE. The whole thing is an unfortuante tragedy and while the Doctor was cleared....he is still sleezy in my book because he had some knowledge that her existing conditions could pose a problem (even if she did not tell him what the previous doctor told her). Instead he took the money!
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Luke_Cage
Comment: Well said Teigh. I'm surprised that with all of the types of surgeries of this ilk that there wasn't a law in place already. Especially in Tinsel Town where elective plastic surgery is virtually the norm there. Kudo's for getting this started though. I would be pretty shocked if this bill didn't get passed.
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sweetpea
Comment: This is great. This should be required in every state. A doctor can only go by what a patient tells them, so if a plastic surgeon requires a patient to have a physical exam, then he/she will be more informed.
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DOne
Comment: I'm sorry, but I don't see the need for this law. It is not the government job to protect people from themselves. People make choices.
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thatbklyngirl
Comment: I think i'm with Done on this one.
This was an educated woman who was told that she shouldn't do this surgery and yet she kept persuing it. This law will change nothing.
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DCGG
Comment: Okay so lets start passing laws for everybody that makes a dumb azz decision...this makes absolutely no sense to me...
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thatbklyngirl
Comment: Turners article sums up my thoughts, word for word really
http://www.eurweb.com/story/eur41246.cfm
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MER82
Comment: Yeah well common sense would tell you not to drink and drive but people do it anyway and because of the laws of this land, they are penalized for it. In this case, if the law spreads like it should most doctors who don't have common sense and decency to require clearance ahead of time would come to understand that if they greenlight surgery without it, they will be subjected to the highest order of the law and possibly lose their medical licenses, they have a lot more to lose than the average joe law breaker and a much higher standard to uphold.
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ladybyrd
Comment: There are Laws in Finance that protect credit companies from taking advantage of people. The FCC passed laws so telephone companies can't take advantage of you, why not surgeons.
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amethyst
Comment: I understand both sides, those who believe this law will be good and those who feel that people should be responsible and accountable for making their own decisions. Thankfully, we have some laws in this country to protect people from themselves when they don't think or act in their own best interest. The current mortgage crisis is an example of people not educating themselves and making good decisions, as well as some business people preying on them. Payday and title loans are another. I believe both parties (ignorant consumer and predatory vendor) should accept responsibility when necessary.
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MzTee
Comment: I hope it passes. It certainly couldn't hurt and definitely has the best interests of the patient at heart.
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MzTee
Comment: amethyst and MER82...excellent comments. KUDOS!!!
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khufu
Comment: wow im surprised at you
Laas are to HELP people protect themselves and one another
Name: DOne
Comment: I'm sorry, but I don't see the need for this law. It is not the government job to protect people from themselves. People make choices.
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khufu
Comment: hmmm
and yet the credit companies still do it and the phone companies do too......that speaks to:
1) the limits (futility?) of the law
2) the fallibility of human nature (people will find ways to circumvent the law)
3) the power of capitalism to undermine legislation
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: There are Laws in Finance that protect credit companies from taking advantage of people. The FCC passed laws so telephone companies can't take advantage of you, why not surgeons.
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beegirl
Comment: I think it will be a good law. But lots of people are addicted to plastic surgery or get really swept up in thinking they "need" it. I can see those people circumventing the law by just hopping a plane to Brazil or Argentina. So while it's a good law, I don't think it will stop people hell-bent on avoiding the gym at all costs or not wanting to live with their own nose for one more minute.
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khufu
Comment: People wanting to change their physcial festures to make themselves more beautiful or acceptable is a spiritual issue and until they chnage their self=views based on DIVINE TRUTH, they will still have the desire to circumvent man made law and spiritual law...
one of the ways they do it is to do what so many did: blame the plastic surgeon for Dr West's choice
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Calidee
Comment: This is a bad law. All medical procedures have some type of risk. Getting a Dr's clearance does not remove the fact that complications happen. Furthermore, a patient can go to two different doctors and get two different diagnosis. And the funny thing is that both doctors could be right.
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khufu
Comment: CALIDEE but it decreases the doctor's liabilities.....and decreases the chances that a doctor may be smeared if the op is botched and the patient KNEW thatey werent suposed to do it in the first place
sound familiar?
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Gurlfrand
Comment: They need a law so people who have no bizness going to get plastic surgery when they are and know they are not in proper health to do so?
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DOne
Comment: Good points Calidee. There is no comparison to drunk driving laws which are design to protect the public, not the person behind the while. A better comparison would be seat belt laws, which I also think are stupid. The comparisons to the FCC and laws that regulate financial institutions are also somewhat weak because plastic surgery is very proactive. Unless I've missed something, plastic surgeons aren't bombarding us with ads in the mail or on TV. I don't recall seeing any infomerials. Even with the credit card industries, there should be regulations to protect people who are in crisis such as when people have high medical bills, but I don't feel sorry for people who live beyond their means. I knew someone who had 9 credit cards and then was mad at the companies for wanting their money, but this person wasn't using those cards to buy food or pay rent, it was all about getting stuff, more stuff, and then even more stuff. Instead passing even more laws to further put burden on an already over burden legal system, why not spend that time and money on education. Finance and logic should be requirements in school, but I don't what you do about common sense.
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khufu
Comment: GoThe Most High gave us free law...then He gave us Laws to help us out.....with free will, humans need parameters
A Khufu original
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Name:
khufu
Comment: The Most High gave us free law...then He gave us Laws to help us out.....with free will, humans need parameters A Khufu original
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MER82
Comment: Excellent point Khufu, humans need parameters because we all have to live here with each other, but there are those who are too foolish to look out for themselves and by the way DOne-drunk drivers can and do hurt themselves too. This is the problem with Capitalism, doctors should not be so greedy as to be above looking out for those who can't or won't do it for themselves. If medical personnel aren't held at a standard to look out for the rest of us, then why should we trust them at all? Not to mention their own medical liability. That line has to be maintained and in the case of Dr. West's surgeon, as in so many others, it was crossed, so he pays the price and she paid with her life.
Its the same problem with the rest of the industries in our countries. Music makers say its up to the parents to keep their kids from hearing certain music, but they bear some responsibility as well. We are supposed to be each other's keepers and not so biased against what we think is right or wrong that we sit back and judge each other instead of helping each other.
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ladybyrd
Comment: Telephone is still doing, what???
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MER82
Comment: And shout out to MzTee!
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Calidee
Comment: >>Khufu I think this law could decrease the liabilities for the plastic surgeon, but not for the doctor who gave the patient a clean bill of health. People will find someone to sue.
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