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Teigh
Comment: The best of Soul Train aired in my city and I have to say I enjoy the older shows more. The show used to have credibility...but as the music got watered down...so did the award shows.
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Muzak
Comment: You got that right. How in the world can you put "Beyonce" in the soul category. When she's clearly a pop singer. Jill Scott, Erykah Badu, Leela James,Angie Stone, Christte Michele Anthony Hamilton, Maxwell, Musiq Soulchild, Dwele, Bilal are R&B soul artist.
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Taurusingr
Comment: Muzak: ....It's also ironic,disappointing & unfortunate how as people say there's no good music out there &...THOSE artist, the ones you just mentioned, ARE making good music! But seldom get the attention/air play they deserve!! And the "wrong category thing" I FEEL YOU ON THAT!! I've been %*$!ed about that shyt for years!! I suspect they do that to get the highest ratings, letting people see & giving the awards to the "popular" artist, & not the most deserving! I don't know why the black award shows don't have a "pop" category anyway. They act like all black artist are SOUL artist, just b/c they are black! Which is B.S. & why we don't hear the full spectrum of black music on black radio! I mean,...when was the last time you heard Lenny Kravitz,non-gansta rap etc... on black radio?? But you WILL hear...Justin Timberfake,Robin Thicke etc... No dis to white artist in general, but we have to start recognizing the diversity in black artist & celebrate it!!! (sorry, I know I got off subject there!) One!
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nightshift
Comment: I concur with you all, Soul train awards show lost me a loooooooong time ago.
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Name:
bigfriend
Comment: I am not going to miss it. Too many award shows now and the awards go to the same people anyways.
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Selah
Comment: After at least two years of artists not showing up, I'm not suprised. If you get a nomination, it's not too much to show for the awards show. Too many artists have forgotten how the show was started. Black music was being dissed by the mainstream awards shows. too sad.
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PlanetRock
Comment: They stopped showing Soul Train in my area, and that was The Best of Soul Train - which made me watch again for all of the memories. The last Soul Train awards show was an embarrassment because all of our beloved stars didn't even bother to show up, but they ran their butts to the MTV awards and the Grammys with the quickness. Gotta love our "entertainers." Sadly, the Soul Train derailed decades ago. Message to Don Cornelius: DVD!!!!!!!!!!!
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...The Soooooul trane has left the station and that's fucc'ed up...I guess the Don decided that knee-grows didn't know how to act...Showing up late or not at all, fight-en, bringing big azzed posses, shooting and looting the gift bags...The show fell into the popular trap...True artist were not being recoginzed...Beyonce can't win every dayum award...Pop, Soul, Gospel..She did a song with her voice over dubbed and won for best duet...WTF?...Man, there are lots of musicians who woulda loved to appear on this show...I would watch the soul trane awards before the Grammy's or tha American music awards...Black folks didn't show it the same amount of respect as the other shows...I can curse, speack incoherently, be drunk/high as hell, dress like a bum...ect...It's just the Soul trane awards...
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McNasty
Comment: What Teigh said! I like watching the throwback shows - takes me back to a better time and I remember on Saturdays in preparation for going out I would turn on Soul Train. Don Cornelius - like his counterpart Bob Johnson sold out and soul train became watered down and the awards to me were never worth watching. Y'all ever notice when you watch cribs that the white awards always mean more to the rappers and such than the soul train award you see the award sitting on the shelf next to the grammy and amerikkkan music award?!
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nightshift
Comment: You right Selah, these "big-time" artists forget how they got to where they are. Also not giving autgraphs! Wanting privacy but, you all up and down in public.
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eyesley
Comment: Yeah, I agree. The "Best Of Soul Train" needs to be on DVD but there a few brothas in Chi that have already gone that route. You can find Soul Train Music CD's by year on Amazon.com. There is also a music message board/website that used to make a old Soul Train episode a week available for download but may have had to pull it because I have not seen any old segments posted lately, go to www.yabbers.com/phpbb/
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NYCsoul
Comment: Teigh & McNasty> I hope you guys are taping the old shows. The ones that I got in my collection are bootlegs that I bought in Greenwich village. If you can, you should tape them because Don Cornelis will NOT release these shows on DVD. It costs him too much money to get the rights for songs, permission from the estates of deceased singers and so on. Personally, I think he'd make more money but I guess to him, it's not worth the headache.
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NYCsoul
Comment: The reason there was never pop category on Soul Train is because pop music was already recognized from the mainstream for decades while Soul/R&B took a backseat. I never saw the need for such a category on Soul Train, despite some of the acts being more pop-oriented. Perhaps, some of them should not have been nominated at all because of this but due to the dearth of good Soul/R&B, Don saw no choice but to have acts like Beyonce nominated. I do agree with Teigh that the show became watered down as the years went by.
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VeeCee
Comment: In all honesty, the Soul Train Awards were off the chain in the beginning, but had really fallen off in recent years. It seemed as if they (along with the BET Awards) lost some "class" along the way (though BET has improved within the last 5 years or so). I cannot speak for others, but I got sick and tired of people coming onstage to receive their awards wearing basketball jerseys, rope chains, baseball caps, sneakers, pimp cups, wearing jeans off your a-s-s, booty shorts, etc. instead of wearing something classy and dignified. Damn people, spruce it up a little bit! Take a cue from Kanye - he is one of the best dressed artists out there (JMO).
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VeeCee
Comment: And I forgot - once the show aired on TV, it was poorly edited. I do watch the old "Soul Train" shows from the 70's and 80's because that is what I grew up on, but I agree that they should put the shows on DVD.
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PBF_19
Comment: Soul Train Awards was one of the first black awards show and it's ashame that they just couldn't stand the test of time. I remember when I was young and you couldn't wait to see the Soul Train Awards but now they lost their touch. I do think it's ashame that last year hardly any of the winners couldn't show up but yet they were all at the Grammys. anyway, i think it's a smart move to end the show
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4mybabygirl
Comment: It is a sad move, but smart! The people they named and Alicia Keys are about as much soul that you are going to get now days. So what are they going to do, give the awards to the same people every year. Music is nothing like it use to be. I got to thinking about my grandkids and what my kids (they are only 2 and 6) are going to playing back to them and it is scary. This music is all about talking with five people on the mic, sex, and violence. So terribly sad!
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QueenCityBee
Comment: Well..I remember the very first S.T. award show. I also remember when we couldn't wait for the next year so see them. I enjoyed them. I never could stand to have to sit threw watching hours of white people just to see one our maybe two black people perform on the those yt awards shows. So I nevered watched. Soul Train was the shyt back in the day. Til all the artist got too big for there britches. I remember one artist as he excepted his award he said "Thank you soul train for giving US something" But, the thing that lost me was they would give award to artist whos' Lb's/Cd's was like ole as hell maybe 2-3 years ole. That's when I was like okay this is getting tired. When Don got tired for ballin up his fist with the love,peace & soul sign he hired host like Mitro Clark that fool that he could dance (but couldn't for shyt). Shamar Moore was good eye candy tried to fit in. The first time I ever heard Deborah Cox was on Soul T. the first time I ever heard Christina Agulara was on Soul T. Yes it was the longest running. But, everything must come to an end. I tell YOU what did surpise me was Don's C. wife being CLEAR!
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Southernbelle
Comment: When "Chicken Noodle Soup" won an award I knew it was down hill from there. I'm gonna take NYsoul's advice and start taping the best of shows. Man, Soul Train was hippest show in America at one time.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: LMBAO...@Queen, you didn't say "clear"...Sh1t..Dayum, that's funny...
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NYCsoul
Comment: Southernbelle> I'm watching Ree Ree sing live 'Oh me Oh my' on ST from the 70s on youtube. Just don't tell Don because he's got lawyers scouring to purge youtube of ST clips. I've also seen other clips from the 70s on youtube as well.
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Gurlfrand
Comment: >Teigh - bingo - "big slap to your hand." As the music progressively went down the drain, so did the shows.
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Name:
TesticAl
Comment: I'm glad this wack show isn't coming on. The same artists are up basically every year. Ciara for entertainer of the year. Come on down! Four Tops for group of the year. Come on down! Jamie Foxx for album of the year. Come on down! Mind you this is 2008.
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Stephanie
Comment: Soul Train was a wrap when they decided to intergrate it!
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Name:
Gurlfrand
Comment: lol at TA - Four Tops....you don't like sugar pie honey bunch???
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Name:
Teigh
Comment: southernBelle...that's exactly when I stopped watching (and I'm from Harlem)!!
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Name:
Jack_Blackmusic
Comment: The Soul Train was an iconic show back in the day. I remember when Don first went on locally in Chicago. Donny was like Chi-town's Frankie Crocker on WVON Radio.
Don wanted to know how a TV show could be done, and he came to visit us in NY. At that time we worked for WNET-TV 13 in Newark,NJ and had gotten a program on called "SOUL" which aired from '69-'74 on PBS and featured music, conversation, but no dancing (per se) It was the late Ellis Hazlip who gave Don Cornny ideas on producing a dance oriented show and he took that info back eventually to Chicago; and on from there. If any of you want to see some of Don's earlier shows as well as SOUL some of them can be found on You-Tube.
Peace.
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Name:
TesticAl
Comment: Gurlfrand, you know I do!
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Name:
duckapoo
Comment: DVD is a great idea. I am old enough to remember alot of the dancer's names. I call them out as the dance across the screen. Lil Joe Chisum, Vickie Abercrombie, Darnell Williams, Mark Moore, Jeffrey Daniel, Jody Watley, Damita Jo Freeman, Tyrone, Sharon, Karen, Bobcat. Wow, they bring back good memories.
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