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Taurusingr
Comment: As far as I'm concerned...if Jeremiah "WRONG"! WAS the only reason...hell THAT'S ENOUGH!!! Just raise the hell up!! GTF out!! Bounce!! Leave!! B B gone!! POOF!! Just VANISH like a fart in a dust storm!!!
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Mwafrika8299
Comment: Who's this wright guy? He may be right about all that shyt but does it help anyone? No it doesnt....oprah ws smart.... Always look after number one...where d u think she b if she ws a radical... Mh
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Selah
Comment: Honestly, who cares what Oprah believes. From what I've seen, she doesn't exactly represent radical or revolutionary thinking. No hatred or disrespect, but she doesn't represent my interests.
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barnone
Comment: talk about beating a dead horse...dang let that ish go. it ain't even newsworthy nemore. i said it n the beginning, and i'll say it again, i knew this pres bid was going 2 bring out the real ugly n amerikkka. what's so said is the everyday working folks who r hurt the most by this ish don't even c the writing on the wall. they fall 4 the okie doke every time. fear, us against them, divide and conquer
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Winn30344
Comment: Plenty of people leave churches for various reasons..why this is newsworthy is beyond me.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: unless Oprah provided direct, first-person contribution to the "investigation", the article is pure speculation
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DrKnowItAll
Comment: I doubt Oprah or any of her people had anything to contribute to this article. I believe this is a diversionary attempt to not so subtly say "Look at Oprah. She was a good Negro and left all that racist religous banter behind so that she could have a future in white America. Barack was not so smart. Is this the guy you want running your country?" Oprah is a Barack supporter and campaigns for him. She wouldn't support this nonsense..
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professo285
Comment: Here's your mainstream media again, dipping and dabbing where they shouldn't be!!!! Making a big deal out of nothing. Wake up America!!! Leave this small stuf allone. Who cares where and how these people serve God? Americans talk about being the home of the free and land of the brave. What is happening to us? Heck, I prefer Tom Joyner over Steve Harvey in the mornings. Does anyone care? Tell the Mainstream media to stop worring about the wrong thing and place focus on real issues.
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CRENEEJ
Comment: professo, i feel u, but i don't get where the steve hardly and tom joyner comparison comes in. i to preferred tom joyner when he was in NYC, and i just can't do steve anymore...
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BigBlackRod
Comment: Hell, Oprah had plans to start her OWN religion, and didn't see the sense in staying in a church where somebody other than her would be worshipped...PEACE.
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bigchassie
Comment: okay everybody sing! "TO THE LEFT! TO THE LEFT!...TAKE THIS SHEYATT TO THE LEFT!!....WE ARE TIRED, TO THE LEFT!!...*wave arms to the left*
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bigchassie
Comment: TAURUS>hey i like that phrase, "like a fart in a sandstorm". on point!
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bigchassie
Comment: cuse me, Dust storm.
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McNasty
Comment: This past weekend whilst recuperating from a chest cold I channel surfed through quite a few news programs. After the fall out the majority of people polled (if you believe polls) were not swayed by the media blitz - thought the media blitz was a over kill and a lot of them believe it's time for the media to stick to a story and quit re running snippets to blow situations out of proportion. They saw it for what it was. Now this? which is so not important cause this woman has already said several times that her beliefs have changed so it matters not a damn that she stopped going to the Rev. Wright's church back in the 1990s!
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HersheysKiss
Comment: Since this article does not identify the "long-time friend" or said 'friend' opted not to disclose his/her name, I will consider this "report" fiction and file as such. Thanks for providing this entertaining tale.
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professo285
Comment: CRENEEJ, I mentioned Tom and Steve just to illustrate the point that no one cares who I listen to. Which goes along with this bogus article. If we're going to judge people by how and when they serve God, it's crazy and it should not matter. Obama has said that he believes in God and for anyone who doesn't believe that, this is their problem, not Obama's.
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thatbklyngirl
Comment: barnone I freaking co-sign, the media is absoutely ridiculous, this crap is transparent as the air we breathe. Drag out this alleged "story" from freaking 1986, 86, not 2006, they going back again "allegedly" 22 bloody years ago. Its so sad that you can't even make this up. this foolishness is really happening.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Yo...just cast my vote for Rak...The turnout wasn't all that so far...I know it's early but muthafuccers gotta git out man...Yo, I heard the radio spots in NC...Why does Rak say
humani-tay, when quoting MLK?...He knows it's humanity...He said tay...Rak shouldn't play with my MLKing emotions like that...He ain't a southern preacher...The cat went to Harvard... He knows it's humanity NOT humanitay...Don't do that sh1t Rak...You have my vote...Imma come back and talk about Dr. Angelo's radio spot for Clinton...WTF is that?....
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Now what the he11 is Dr. Angelo's spot for Clinton about?...They got that music playing and sh1t and she's reciting a poem 'bout Clinton...She made up some sh1t 'bout Clinton being the promise of America...C'mon now, I love Dr. Angelo but this is politics not a dayum poetry reading...I thought she was gonna say..."And still she raises"..."She's been beaten is just about every primary but still she raises"...C'mon now Doc...Yeah, we know why Oprah left that church...It was gonna hurt her pocketbook...We already know that sh1t man...
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barnone
Comment: boot> now u know all colored folk can get kerntray when we gets a little 2 lax. he prob 4got the cams were on. i'm sure he be dropping double negatives and splicing verbs all at the crib.
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212121
Comment: "Wright's more incendiary sermons, which she knew had the power to damage her standing as America's favorite daytime talk-show host."
How does this person know what was in Oprah's mind. I wish white folks would stop trying to speak for us.
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sonnyd
Comment: Barnone - "i'm sure he be dropping double negatives and splicing verbs all at the crib." LMAO! Me and the hubby always laugh about that. Every once in a while, he seems to forget he's not out to dinner with his folks or something....hilarious! I'm sorry, but I would also like a president with a sense of humor. Am I just asking too much? Let the polls tell it (whateva)...
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realuvbaby
Comment: GIVE IT A REST ALREADY!!!!
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realuvbaby
Comment: DrKnowItAll, you are so correct. bigchassie!!!!!!!! Let's ASSUME THE FORMATION!!! Got my drank and my two step!!! The media will stop at NOTHING. You know what I always say: throw enuf crap on the wall and some of it is bound to stick. This will dogg him till November because the media has an agenda and they won't let it go. Through this entire campaign, this is ALL THEY HAVE. They cannot beat the brother fair and square so the doggs gonna digg up a bone . . . bigchassie, how get it crunked: To da left, to da left <<lmbaooooo>>> You know it DrKnow. . .
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DCGG
Comment: Oh for fuvkin crying out loud let it go already...and who gives a shyt what Okrah's old slave azz thinks???
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ChiDiva9
Comment: Come on Boot u didn't know Ms. Angelou was for Clinton? I did but that is water under the bridge. Oprah knew that she could not go to ANY Black church and be the talkshow champ of the world. If I have not learned one thing from this election - race still matters.... Don't ya'll forget that less than a hundred years ago Indiana was a major center for the KKK. I am not expecting much from them today. The so called northern states have a far less civil approach to civil rights as a whole. Segregation lives in Chicago - that is REAL. That ain't no quote from the Rev. either. It is a fact.
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fanteeking
Comment: ChiDiva9: You right!! In the 1920's here in Indianapolis the KKK ran the Mayor's office and demanded that Black kids have their own segregated school so my alma mater, CRISPUS ATTUCKS, home of the great OSCAR ROBERTSON was born. We had professors with Masters and PHds and got a helluva education. D C Stephenson, the leader of the KKK in Greenwood, IN, a suburb was the motivating force. One night, he met a white lady on the train going to Chicago, befriended her then savagely raped her and was caught and sent to prison. Even while in prison, this scum bag still directed the activities of the KKK. This is Indianapolis' legacy BUT I still think Barack gonna win. I gotta run to the polls now. Bye Bye.
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fanteeking
Comment: ChiDiva9: Anther thang. During the days of segregation here, we Blacks, had more businesses, more real estate, a higher graduation rate, less crime, a stronger family structure and more cohesive community etc. Integration was our death nail as a people here. Now we got all this inty-grate-shun and compared to 40 years ago, we ain't got a pot to pizz in or a window to throw it out of!!!! Becareful for what you dream for.......
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bigchassie
Comment: REALUV>i know that's right. i mean this is as stale as last weeks jiffy cornbred. time to put it in the dressing for dinner! lol! about as tired and stank as an old man's socks that hasn't been washed in a week.... and he is still wearing them! about as ugly as a dried up blackhead that won't leave after you put clearasil and witch hazel on it...
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oldsoul
Comment: Right, Oprah is first and foremost a businesswomen - in her skin. But just maybe in searching and seeking - that's what business people naturally do - she found something, maybe something in herself, that they would almost never teach in a church. As for Rev. Wright, he's only telling the truth but if some small minds continue on calling his words "anger-filled" then that's their problem not Rev. Wrights. Speak truth in this country and be prepared for all types of false accusations because this country was built on un-truth and if truth gets out, everything else crumbles...hell, it's crumbling now - ain't it obvious?!
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Chi..I knew she was in Clinton's camp but that dayum radio spot had me LMBAO!!!...Hell, she couldn't influence her protege Oprah to vote for Cleenton...It was that dayum music in the background that had me rollin...Like that dayum poem is gonna influence Black voters...
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Missyutwo
Comment: >>>Fanteeking. I am also from Indianapolis, Eastside. I thought I was the only one who knew that story. I agree before intergration Nap, had a strong black commuinty. Obama will take Indy.
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rayne
Comment: fanteeking - as sad as it is, you are correct.
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bigchassie
Comment: REALUV/BOOT>*having a Frank Drevin moment from "The Necked Gun movie" * about as tired as a worn out old man still trying to get it up..cause his viagra perscription expired. about as boring as Neil Diamond trying to do Rap...
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barnone
Comment: yes intergration killed the Black community all over not just n Indy...but Martin was trying 2 warn the people they just weren't paying attention. he said it b4 they killed him that we were integrating n2 a burning house. yall got me on da flo with maya and this poem. i haven't heard it but i can just imagine what it sounds like. kumbaya my lord, kumbaya (waving hands n the air)
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katgrrrl
Comment: Alright, so Oprah left a church. So What. People leave/switch churches every week. To me, it seems they're friggin' diggin' for stuff, tryna vilify Rev. Wright. Tryna sway voters perhaps? I dunno. And all the residue from this crap is gonna most likely negatively fall on Obama. Stop messin' with the man's hustle. Keep ya head up Obama, cos they ARE tryna bring ya down.
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amethyst
Comment: fanteeking & Missyutwo - Integration messed up Black communities everywhere. I talk to my parents all the time about how their stories about growing up demonstrate the tenacity and closeness of their communities. You went to school and church in your neighborhood. Thus, the teachers and church folks had a personal mission to make sure they learned and succeeded. Black businesses were just about the only ones you could go to, white businesses didn't want you there, they would mistreat you or overcharge you. In some stores Black people couldn't try on clothes or shoes, you just had to buy them and hope they fit. I've said for years that we misinterpreted Dr. King's dream: he fought for equal access and equal quality. That didn't mean that as soon as white schools, businesses and neighborhoods opened up to us we should have abandoned our own. We should have gotten that education and business knowledge and brought it back home to uplift our own people. Instead, we thought white was better and we ran over there and stayed.
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Exmun
Comment: ChiDiva9, It's my understanding that Indiana was the birthplace of the KKK.
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amethyst
Comment: Maybe the media overkill with Rev. Wright will backfire, non-Blacks will get tired of hearing about it and realize it's another ploy to distract everyone from real issues. I've always liked Maya Angelou and she has the right to her opinion. She has been close to the Clintons for a long time, and I ain't hating on her loyalty. There have been a few instances in which I've seen a Black generation gap regarding Barack and Hillary. Some folks aged 60 and above are sticking with the Clintons, out of loyalty and past satisfaction. Some younger folks are excited about the change they believe Obama can bring. Oprah doesn't subscribe to my religious beliefs anyway, so where she attends church, or whether she doesn't attend any church, is irrelevant to me. No celebrity influences the way I live my life or the political candidates that I choose. Oprah, Maya, Magic and none of them know me and they ain't paying my bills.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: I can hear Rak Bama telling his supporters...In a MLK Jr. type drawl...Tell 'em, ain't gon let ya'll turn me 'round...Ain't gon let Clinton turn me 'round...turn me 'round...turn me 'round...Ahm on to Presidential land...
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BlackThought
Comment: Boot, you are right about Barack's humanitay. He says all words ending in why like that and it always cracked me up. Dignitay, humilitay etc... Oldsoul, what's up!!! It's been a minute. You know, as I was listening to the Roots song, "I Will Not Apologize", it made me think of this whole Wright situation. "I will not apologize/I will not apologize/it's for all of my people who understand and truly recognize/some won't get it and for that, I won't apologize!
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BlackThought
Comment: I meant to say, ending in "ty" like that.
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barnone
Comment: amethyst>comment..."some folks...sticking with the Clintons, out of loyalty and past satisfaction". this is what is perplexing the he!! out of me. what the phucc has slick Willie or his pathological lying wife Hellary done 4 Black folk? shat! c this is a prime example of perception n the absence of truth becomes reality. and that's my main beef with Black people supporting her. b-cuz if u r looking at this with a clear head, focusing on the facts, then it's obvious she is not what Black people need. u don't base a decision this important on emotion.
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barnone
Comment: amethyst> i wouldn't bank on that.."maybe the media overkill...nonblacks will get tired...real issues". yt folk n general r not very honest with themselves. they suffer from a deep sense of self deception.
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bigchassie
Comment: well i tell yall, i truly hope Barack wins these primaries. the people of Indy and Carolina needs to come out full force and vote for this guy, prove to america that this is who we want for president. forget about the stupid pettyness of rev wright. it's over and done and so stale. As stale as....the toupee still being worn by Donald Trump.
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bigchassie
Comment: comeon somebody, i'm runnin out of crap! lol!
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fanteeking
Comment: EXMUN: No, the KKK was born in Pulaski, Tenn. which is near the Alabama border right after the Civil War. There was a confederate officer named Forest or Bedford, I think, who started this stupid shyt. They reasoned that all Blacks were affraid of ghost hence they started with this idiotic bedsheet, pillow case head wearing stupidity. The KKK was rampant in Indiana at the turn of last century, my Grandma remembers legions of them walking in a parade downtown during the 20's. They hated CATHOLICS along with BLACKS so when I see these Catholic McCain supporters I jest chuckle to myself!!
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dcdouglass01
Comment: Boot, you say the turnout is light (in my home state of NC)? Black folk need to get out like it's another Million Man March, but with women and men. Boot, I suggest you make a sign that says, "Get Yo Azz Out and Vote" and march up and down the sidewalk.
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bigchassie
Comment: DCDOUG>i know that's right. that reminds me of how black folks used to do back in the day. they used to make signs, get a megaphone and drive in the neighborhoods and tell the people get out and vote. it was quite effective.
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indipindintthnkr
Comment: Good morning everyone. I suspect because of his name and the rumors of being a muslim, White MSM started digging. Looking for anything and or everything that would say Obama was a radical Muslim although he said he was Christian. Hense the discovery of the Wright tapes in an attempt to find out what type of church Trinity was and, the breach of looking into his passport. The invesitgation of the other two candidates were thrown in for good measure as to not look like they were just looking for radical Muslim ties to Obama. JMO. He's a smart man, I'm sure he's thought about this.
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PRDC
Comment: Oprah is bought and paid for and got rich out of it and she's not about to mess that up. Now if they wanted to mess with her and bring her down, believe they will/are. She is making alotof money for them right now....Let's see if Obama wins, where she stands. Media is one sided and it shows and if you are in the game you know how to play it. By the way...take a look at majority of her shows...whos in the audience mostly and what are her shows about. Every now and again it black guest but most often its white. I like her as a person and that as far as she goes with me...because as history showed us...most can be bought.....
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javone77
Comment: Yeah the media is the one keeping this ish going. I have seen so many channels run HOUR LONG symposiums about this mess last doggone week. Come on people. Damn the church he goes to, this heffa is lying smooth in your face and all you can think about what some OTHER man said that supposedly represents Barack. THis man is speaking for himself not barack. In the meantime, Hillary is blowing smoke up ya %*$ and you're just eating it up. smh I swear some people are so stupid. No wonder she is doing so well with the "uneducated white folks". They act like she's benny hinn lol
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barnone
Comment: okay FAN>
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barnone
Comment: ok FAN> ur going 2 have 2 clarify again. what's the connection between catholics supporting mccain and the kkk hating catholics
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Yeah DC it was very light this morning...I'm like a rooster, I'm up at the crack of dawn...I was at the polls at 6:30am...I'm in Wake Forest but my boys told me the turnout in Raleigh and Durham was greater...folks had to stand in line...I just breezed through and the Black woman monitoring sh1t gave me "that look" and smiled at me...She knew what I was there for...
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Southernbelle
Comment: Were these comments intended to hurt or help Obama. It appears that this coming out now would contradict Obama's claim that he never heard Wright speak in this tone.
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bigchassie
Comment: BOOT>well, it should have gotten better later on in the morning. it's now 11:17 now. so it should be on and kicking now there.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Southern..Obama has said that he hasn't heard the sermons being looped in the media. He did admit to hearing the Rev. make "controversial" sermons. Although the media chooses to dismiss it, there is a difference 'tween the two. So, "tone" was never in dispute.
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javone77
Comment: LOL boot. I think we're all giving each other the look. lol it is time to end this ......PLEASE!
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huey
Comment: hiiii javone77 ---(as huey winks and makes googly eyes of affection in javone77's direction whilst standing in the corner of the room sipping on a glass or merlot)
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CaliRedbone
Comment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOjD7GrrpC0
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javone77
Comment: LOL hey huey! where ya been hiding?
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queeniebunz
Comment: indipindintthnkr - Okay. I have seen this "MSM" used for a week and didn't know what the h-e-double hockey sticks it stands for - please enlighten me...>fanteeking - yes, the KKK did start in Pulaski, TN. I researched it when I taught US History years ago. But as you said, there was a large KKK organization in Indiana. That surprised me in my research because I didn't expect it but it's a very racist state. As in Kentucky. I guess both fly under the radar compared to the obviously and overtly racist Southern states - Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana...Florida is another very racist state. Don't let the multicultural pop of Miami fool ya...And people forget how racist the Carolinas and Texas are, too. Knowing what I know about Texas, I was surprised that people were surprised that Obama didn't win Texas. They forget that James Byrd was dragged to his death in a lynching in Texas in 1999, I think.
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amethyst
Comment: barnone - We have to consider that Maya, Bob Johnson, Magic and others are not "everyday" folks. So, their perception of the Clintons may be different than regular people. I supported Bill back then and appreciated $.89 gas, a strong job market, buying my first home, and his leaving office with a budget surplus. But Bill isn't running, Hillary is. I made my choice (Obama) after reviewing Hillary's and Barack's backgrounds and records. Very few long-term Billary friends are going to pull a Bill Richardson and go with Barack. Rep. John Lewis of Atlanta only switched to Barack after his constituency gave him hell and let him know that if he casts his Superdelegate vote for Hillary, he will say good-bye to his congressional seat.
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amethyst
Comment: Boot - Maybe folks will vote after work today. /Huey - Whatchu doin' flirting with Javone? We were getting married a couple of weeks ago. Do I need to call Vesta to come sing "Congratulations, I thought it would have been me". LOL
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Jacque
Comment: Queeniebunz, MSM = MainStream Media
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javone77
Comment: LOL amethyst. That was my doggone song lol
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huey
Comment: javone77--ive been monitoring all of these news publications on this electorial process...i want my man barack and his wife and girls sleeping in that white house so bad i can taste it...all black folks should take off of work the day after he wins and then head up to the inaugeration as well...YES WE CAN javone77-- YES WE CAN
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indipindintthnkr
Comment: MSM = Mainstream Media, i.e. CNN, Foxnews, ABCnews, MSNBC etc...
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javone77
Comment: Ive been watching them myself huey. but now my blood pressure is going through the roof because of the boundless stupidity I am witnessing lol
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huey
Comment: well, hopefully bed-rock will stick a fork in her tonight,,,two and out for the wicked witch of the north and she "nose" it.....
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bigchassie
Comment: By LIZ SIDOTI and CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writers
26 minutes ago
EVANSVILLE, Ind. - Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton once again faced-off in crucial primaries as voters in Indiana and North Carolina crowded polls Tuesday seeking to settle the largest remaining contests in an epic Democratic presidential nomination struggle.
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Obama was looking to shore up his position as the front-runner, while Clinton was seeking another victory to keep her candidacy competitive in a race that is likely to continue into June and perhaps to the Democratic National Convention in August.
Obama began the day by dropping in on the Four Seasons Family Restaurant in the Greenwood, Ind., a suburb of Indianapolis. He walked around shaking hands, then sat at the counter and had an omelet, chatting with patrons on either side.
"I feel good," Obama said when asked about the day's voting. "I think we've campaigned hard. I think it's going to be close. I'm seeing a lot of enthusiasm."
Clinton was more reticent.
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bigchassie
Comment: We're just, you know, looking to see what happens," Clinton told reporters on her campaign plane late Monday. "Obviously we hope to do as well as we can."
"We started out pretty far behind with some tough odds ... I never feel confident. I just try to do the best I can. You know, I don't make predictions because it's very unpredictable. And this has been, I think anyone would agree, a pretty unpredictable campaign season."
In Indiana, Marion County Clerk Beth White said many voters already were in line when polls opened at 6 a.m. Tuesday.
"We really do feel today is going to be a heavy voting day, and our inspectors are ready," said White, the clerk in Indiana's most populous county.
Even before the opening of polls at 6:30 a.m. in North Carolina, there were signs of record turnout. Nearly half a million people had already cast early and absentee ballots as of Monday — more than half the total number of voters who cast a ballot during the 2004 primary.
"I can't remember a primary that had this much excitement," said Gary Bartlett, director of the North Carolina Board of Elections. "It's truly fun to be part of making history, and I hope that this encourages voters to participate in all primary elections."
Obama, who was flying later to North Carolina to await election results in Raleigh, visited a polling place Tuesday morning at Hinkle Field House on the campus of Butler University in Indianapolis, the site of part of the filming of the basketball movie "Hoosiers." Obama, who chatted with voters, said he had hoped to shoot a few baskets while there, but that the nets were up because of an upcoming commencement.
"I might have to take one shot," Obama said, although he left without doing so
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javone77
Comment: Huey that is so crazy that you said that! I am watching the Wiz right now with my students LOL
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bigchassie
Comment: Like marathoners on their second wind, Obama and Clinton had raced for advantage until the final hours of the campaign for the primaries in the two states.
Clinton, at her scrappiest when her campaign is on the line — which it has been for weeks — brought a full-throated roar to a series of events Monday in a day of frantic travel spilling into the wee hours Tuesday.
A wealthy inside-Washington veteran, the former first lady worked hard to make common cause with blue-collar voters crucial to Tuesday's outcome.
"I do see you, I do hear you," she told supporters in Merrillville, Ind., speaking at a local fire station as a dozen firefighters looked down on her from the fire truck behind her.
She pressed her proposal for a federal gas tax holiday that Obama has dismissed as a gimmick, one of the few issues where the two Democrats clearly diverge.
"It's a stunt," the Illinois senator said in Evansville. "It's what Washington does."
Obama's stance was backed up by 230 economists who released a letter Monday opposing the temporary tax break, which would take 18.4 cents off the price of a gallon if consumers got the full savings at the pump. The signers included four Nobel Prize winners and economic advisers to presidents of both parties.
Clinton shrugged off the blistering reviews from policy makers, industry experts and editorial writers.
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bigchassie
Comment: "I believe we should start standing up for the majority of Americans who are paying the outrageous gas prices," Clinton said. "I'm ready to take on the oil companies."
Obama hurtled from Indiana to North Carolina and back.
"I want your vote. I want it badly," he pleaded on a factory floor in Durham, N.C., one of many settings drawing the working-class voters he needs.
Obama capped his day with a rain-soaked, get-out-the-vote rally in Indianapolis featuring Motown legend Stevie Wonder, followed by a visit to a factory for the midnight shift change.
Dual victories by Obama would all but knock Clinton out of the race. Polls, however, have found a small edge for the New York senator in Indiana. Obama remains the favorite in North Carolina, though his lead has shrunk.
Altogether, 187 delegates are at stake in the two states, nearly half the pledged delegates left with eight primaries to go before voting ends in a month.
North Carolina and Indiana cannot mathematically settle the nomination. A candidate needs 2,025 delegates to win, and Obama had 1,745.5 to Clinton's 1,608 Monday.
The key to the nomination is held by superdelegates, party leaders who aren't bound by the outcome of state contests. About 220 are still undecided.
Despite a rash of recent troubles and his loss to Clinton in the big Pennsylvania primary two weeks ago, Obama has continued to nibble away at Clinton's lead in superdelegates. He picked up two from Maryland on Monday, leaving him trailing Clinton 269-255.
Clinton's main hope is to persuade most of the still-neutral superdelegates to disregard his lead in the delegate chase and support her instead. Her campaign also hopes to get a boost by getting delegates from Michigan and Florida seated.
Obama easily outspent Clinton in both states while outside supporters threw big money into the contest, too.
The Service Employees International Union, which is backing Obama, spent about $1.1 million in the state, much of it on ads. The American Leadership Project, which has received most of its money from labor groups backing Clinton, spent more than $1 million on ads in Indiana that questioned Obama's economic policies.
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huey
Comment: javone77 --i know--im looking in at you as we speak...u shoool is fine....
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huey
Comment: hiiii amethyst
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javone77
Comment: LOL huey. I am an elementary school music teacher. No one is supposed to think I am fine LOL that's how you go to jail LOL
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ladybyrd
Comment: Harris> I agree with you, this is PURE speculation as far as I'm concerned.
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Dean32
Comment: So are we being told by this article to get ahead African American must speak and walk softly. Newsweek just say it "Be like Micheal Jordan,Tiger Woods" and Oprah. I say HELL NO!
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huey
Comment: javone77 --thats perfect, we can make beautiful music together...(as huey purses his lips and blows a kiss to javone77 whilst continuing to sip his merlot)
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ChiDiva9
Comment: Hey peeps check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan. Notice that they were big in Michgan too. Almost 1/2 of the white population (when they had one) in the D was KKK at one time. A hot mess and not surprising given the mess that has gone on at the U of Michigan with Affirmative Action. Not to mention those Detroit suburbs can be racist as hell. I grew up in Michigan too. Oprah oh well I don't hate the player I hate the game. She is pimpin' white folks out and I think that she knows exactly who she is.... She said she grew up and did exactly what her grandmama said - got her some good white folks. I know some beg to differ but when is the last time Jordan or Tigger (yeah I called him Tigger the Cablanasian) went on a Henry Louis Gates special to research who they really are?? Knowledge is power on the real.
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bigchassie
Comment: HUEY/JAVONE>*looking at the both of them with one eyebrow up and sly grin on face* uh, do i need some popcorn for this scene or what? lol!
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bigchassie
Comment: HUEY/JAVON>*still sly grin on face* uuhhhhhhhhhhh......lol!
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huey
Comment: bigchassie ---opppss...i got caught with javone77---forgot other folks was watching...gulp...
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dcdouglass01
Comment: I almost hate to get back up in here because there's a risk I might disturb huey and javone's groove (as in "Don't Disturb This Groove" by The System), but as far as this gas tax thing goes, Barack is correct that it is a gimmick, as it would save most people about 30/$40 over the course of the summer. Plus the oil companies would simply raise prices 20 cents more than they otherwise would have for the summer. The oil companies are in control right now (Bush gave them the wink and nod years ago to do what they needed to do to get to where there are now) and it'll take more than gimmicks to wrest it away from them.
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huey
Comment: --- i meant caught up....
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bigchassie
Comment: HUEY>CTHUPP! nah bro, you said it right the first time! lol!!!
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVON>*looking over there watching her blush* LOL! *Shaking head*
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amethyst
Comment: javone - Vesta's song was appropriate for an old boyfriend of mine. /huey - Don't be tryna speak now.
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bigchassie
Comment: *looking at the both of them and puts hands on hips* uhh huh! both of yall courtin up in hurre. yall just make sure yall don't be turnin out no lights in the livingroom! lol!
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bigchassie
Comment: AND WE SUPPOSED TO BE DISCUSSING POLICTICS! LOL!
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amethyst
Comment: dcdouglass01 - We need to be careful about quick fix gimmicks that are publicity stunts. It's critical that you look at the overall and long-term effects. If there is a holiday on gas taxes some other federal source is going to miss out on some cheddar, what source will that be? I still have to do some more reading to understand the long term effect of Bush's $600 stimulus checks. We are in a deficit and spending billions on a war, from where do we get $600 to hand out?
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javone77
Comment: ROFLMAO.....I was at lunch LOL
Bigchassie: LOL we will keep the lights on...promise!
amethyst: yeah my last "boyfriend" neglected to tell me about his fiancee and the other 5 girls he was dating while the fiancee was in IRAQ!!!! That %*$!( need his %*$ kicked. smh
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amethyst
Comment: javone - As my mama says, "Ain't that a blip?" Instead of "Congratulations" somebody needs to get Ruben to sing "Sorry" to the new wife, she doesn't know what she got herself into. My cousin's daughter just had a baby by a trifling dude who also had another baby before hers, while his girlfriend is in Iraq. I hope someone tells her when she gets back. Your life is on the line everyday and you come home to find out your man done had not one, but TWO babies. Make ya wanna hurt somebody. Folks just ain't scared of unprotected sex. Be sure to do a background check on Huey. You know he proposed to me a few weeks ago, there could be other fiancees in EUR land, too.
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amethyst
Comment: Oh, javone - Ain't you supposed to be teaching them children? Are you playing on your Blackberry with us?
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVON>*gives her the "yeah right" look* ummhumm...yall know as soon as my back is turned yall gonna turn out the lights! lol! heyell, i would! lol! baby, peel me a grape! lol!
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ladybyrd
Comment: ChiDiva9> What makes you think Tiger doesn't know who he is? Not every person of color ancestors were slaves. It was my understanding that Earl Woods ancestors were not from the US so they were not slaves. Sort of like Obama. His father is not from the US, so it's easy for him to follow his roots. Unlike Oprah, you and I, we need to dig for our Roots. remember that... peace
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javone77
Comment: amethyst: yes it does make you wanna hurt somebody LOL we are in countdown mode. School will be out in a month and we are just trying to keep control. so my kids are watching musicals. :)
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ladybyrd
Comment: professo285> The media is a business and they do this to keep us off the main topics, and it works. They get more viewers when they speak about Rev. Wright re Oprah or re: Obama. And if FOX news can kill 2 birds with one stone, then so be it. Divide the US more than we are and Make sure Obama doesn't get the nomination for US President.
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javone77
Comment: lol bigchassie: I'm not that kond of girl...<crossing my fingers> lol
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sonnyd
Comment: Huey and Javone - you both have said some things that I've been saying for a while now. Javone - I can't handle watching this stuff anymore. High blood pressure runs in my family and they are trying to kill me!!! And Huey, so help me, if BHO wins the presidency I will be doing a "Get on the Bus" Spike Lee style and humping it to DC. I PROMISE you that none of the folks who work with me will want me in their presence for AT LEAST a week...I will be so sickening. So yeah, Imma just head to a lil inauguration and thangs :)
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javone77
Comment: I hear ya sonny. it's beginnign to be too much smh
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khufu
Comment: and Black folks still aint free
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bigchassie
Comment: SONNYD>yeah man and i will be right on that bus with you too!
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bigchassie
Comment: MORE NEWS COMMIN THROINDIANAPOLIS - Before Barack Obama experienced a rough couple of weeks, his campaign was optimistic about his chances in this state.
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But with a black population of less than 10 percent and swaths of blue collar towns and rural counties, Indiana is looking far more favorable to Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has blanketed the state with visits from her, former President Bill Clinton and their daughter Chelsea.
Can she achieve a replay of Ohio and Pennsylvania, when the rural counties turned in huge margins for her? Or will Obama, with significant endorsements in southern Indiana, be able to cut into her support? And will Obama succeed in driving up his totals in Indianapolis and the northwestern corner of the state?
Here is what Indiana political strategists and experts will be looking for Tuesday:
Check the polls. "The mantra is that 10-2-4 routine," said Brian Howey, editor of Howey Politics Indiana, referring to 10 a.m., 2 p.m. and 4 p.m. checks to gauge turnout.
Follow the turnout. Analysts are expecting far bigger turnout this year than in 2004, when about 22 percent of voters cast ballots in the presidential primary, said Russell Hanson, a political science professor at Indiana University-Bloomington
UGH!
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bigchassie
Comment: A much bigger turnout is good news for Obama because it means "those who haven't been politically engaged in the past are coming out," Hanson said. "If that is not happening, then that is working in Clinton's favor because the traditional [party] machinery is working."
The new vote and the early vote. Analysts will be watching the preferences of the more than 200,000 new voters who were added to the registration rolls.
"How many are Obamacans versus Rush Limbaugh mischief makers?" Howey asked.
More than 160,000 voters cast their ballots early, with large numbers coming in from Obama strongholds in Lake (Gary), Marion (Indianapolis) and Monroe (Indiana University-Bloomington) counties.
The Obama campaign tried taking full advantage of this option at Purdue and Indiana University, where classes concluded last week, by shuttling students to the county election site. "The traffic was so heavy that the county clerk agreed they would bring the polling place to the center of campus for two days," Hanson said.
Hoosier math. Obama needs to pile up large margins in Indianapolis in the middle of the state and in Gary's Lake County in the northwest corner, which is part of the Chicago media market.
Both areas boast significant African American populations. Gary, a city of 100,000 residents, is 84 percent black. Indianapolis, population 780,000, is 25 percent black.
A good night for Obama would mean 10- to 20-point margins in both areas, analysts said.
Obama will also need 20-point margins in college towns such as Bloomington and West Lafayette, analysts said.
Clinton must rely on the Ohio River towns in southern Indiana along the Kentucky border. Obama drew 8,000 people to rally in Evansville, and picked up key endorsements in this area, such as Congressman Baron Hill and former Rep. Lee Hamilton, a revered figure. But Clinton is nevertheless favored to win the region by double digits. She spent the final hours of the campaign Monday in New Albany, a city of 37,000 with 7 percent black population, and Evansville, a city of 117,000 that is 11 percent black.
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bigchassie
Comment: Clinton also hopes to pad her lead in east central Indiana. Economically-distressed cities with union influence, such as Anderson, Muncie and Richmond, present favorable terrain for Clinton, but they also have African American populations of between eight and 15 percent, Howey said.
Places to watch. Kokomo's Howard County is the bellwether to watch, Howey said. It is urban and rural, with a mix of African Americans and blue collar workers, some employed in the Chrysler plants. According to Howey, it tends to back the winner in gubernatorial, congressional and state legislative races.
The South Bend area drew significant focus from both campaigns. It is home to the University of Notre Dame, which bodes well for Obama, but there are also many Catholics and a "strong tradition of blue collar Reagan Democratic voters" that would favor Clinton, said Hanson.
The wealthy Republican suburbs north of Indianapolis also received attention from the campaigns, suggesting that both candidates are looking for crossover votes, Howey said. A poll conducted for the Howey Politics Indiana found that up to 20 percent of Tuesday's turnout could be non-Democrats.
Jonathan Martin contributed to this report.
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amethyst
Comment: javone - Well, since it's a music class, showing musicals sounds appropriate to me; while the teacher plays on the internet. No different than parents parking them in front of the TV, right? /sonnyd - I'll meet you on Pennsylvania Ave. to celebrate the inauguration! I don't care how cold it is, that's one time I'll be dressed in 10 layers, grinning my Southern behind off! I need to put my D.C. friends on notice that Imma need to crash at somebody's house, 'cause the hotels are gonna be $500/night or sold out.
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amethyst
Comment: Hey, Khufu, how have you been? Nah, we's ain't free yet. We're still depending on the man, the government and other stuff for our survival. We shall overcome, some day.
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bigchassie
Comment: HEY KHUFU! how is NYC?
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javone77
Comment: amethyst: uhm...excuse me? that sounded like you are trying to tell me how to do my job. I sure hope that was not your intention.
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bigchassie
Comment: MORE TO COME..If Barack Obama's late decision to hold his election night rally in Raleigh is any indication (his campaign didn't settle on a location until Monday afternoon), the Illinois senator is feeling confident about his chances in North Carolina.
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It's a good thing, for an upset win by Hillary Clinton in North Carolina could shake up the presidential campaign if paired with a Clinton victory in Indiana.
For insight into how North Carolina will be won, here's a guide to where and what to watch Tuesday:
Check the polls. Officially, the polls open at 6:30 a.m. and close at 7:30 p.m. But insiders here check the polls at 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m., after the early morning and lunch hour rushes, to gauge turnout.
Keep an eye on Raleigh-Durham area turnout. Before more than 350,000 ballots were cast during the early voting period, analysts were forecasting a turnout of about 800,000 voters in the presidential primary.
That number should now top one million, said Morgan Jackson, a North Carolina political consultant.
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bigchassie
Comment: The key will be the Raleigh-Durham market," Jackson said. It usually makes up between a quarter and a third of the overall turnout vote. "If that is creeping up to 40 percent that spells good news for Obama," he said.
Big cities vs. small towns. North Carolina voters are concentrated around the I-40/I-85 corridor through the central region of the state, where Obama will look to drive his margins above 55 percent in the metropolitan areas of Charlotte, Winston-Salem (part of the Triad) and Raleigh-Durham (part of the Research Triangle).
North Carolina has 100 counties, and "usually the top 14 counties in the metropolitan areas cast more votes" than the rest combined, said Ferrel Guillory, a former political reporter who lectures at the University of North Carolina. "So Hillary is counting on those other counties to maximize her vote. She needs an extra margin out of those counties."
Former President Bill Clinton has been busy working the less populated areas to the west of Charlotte and to the east of Raleigh. He made 14 stops on Sunday and Monday alone in towns that have never seen a former president.
All in all, the former president has made more than 40 campaign stops in small town North Carolina, where analysts say Hillary needs to pull in more than 60 percent of the vote.
Can she do it? Bill Clinton bragged to at least one North Carolina crowd that he boosted his wife in Pennsylvania, visiting 20 rural counties where she won at least 60 percent of the vote.
Hillary Clinton will also need to be competitive in the suburbs and exurbs of the major metropolitan areas because a pure rural strategy will not be enough, analysts said.
Follow the African-American vote. The higher the black turnout, the higher the Obama margin of victory.
African Americans have made up 40 percent of the early voting turnout and are expected to comprise anywhere from 30 to 40 percent of the vote today.
Most polls show Clinton picking up about 10 percent of the African American vote. If she can claw her way into the range of about 20 percent--which would be on the high side for her in a Southern state--she would get some breathing room.
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khufu
Comment: NY is NY...still settling in...need some $$$$$$$$$$$$ lol
expensive!! sheet is so cheaper in GA
White folks still determine what we can say and who are friends should be...
I have a dream.....
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bigchassie
Comment: Places to watch. Check out a medium-sized city such as Fayetteville where there is a mix of African Americans and rural white conservative Democrats. Clinton has made overtures to the military voters around Fort Bragg, but Obama could draw strength from historically black Fayetteville State University, said Doug Heye, a Republican political strategist and North Carolina native.
Durham, which is 44 percent African American, could provide a gauge on turnout among one of Obama's most loyal constituencies. Charlotte, Greensboro and Winston-Salem, all at least one-third black, are also worth watching. Obama needs strong turnout in towns with black colleges and universities, such as Elizabeth City in the northeastern corner of the state, Heye said.
The counties around Raleigh and Durham could provide clues as to whether Obama can rebound with suburban white voters after turning in a lackluster performance in Philadelphia's upper-income suburbs.
Asheville could be an island of Obama strength in rural western Carolina
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amethyst
Comment: javone - I was only joking, excuse me if I offended you. You stated earlier that you are a music teacher, the kids are watching a musical, and that it's the end of the year and the teachers are just trying to keep control. I'm not criticizing or commenting on how you do your job, I thought the things you said were funny. I won't say anything else about it so I don't risk being taken the wrong way.
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javone77
Comment: amethyst: I was just curious. it did sound like you were being a bit offensive...that is why I asked. but it's cool. I have no problem :)
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Taurusingr
Comment: bigchassie:...You like that huh!??? Yep, that's one of my favs as well!! lol!! Haaaaaaay,javonne!! sml!!
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bigchassie
Comment: TAURUS>yeah, i'm gonna have to remember that saying. lol!
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amethyst
Comment: javone - That's one of the down sides to writing comments versus talking in person or on the phone, words can come across the wrong way. I was cracking up and having fun exchanging messages with you. There was absolutely nothing serious or critical in my mind. As you see, I have been hanging out on EUR all day, not doing any work so I ain't hardly commenting on what anyone else is doing! Here's a cyber-hug ().
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barnone
Comment: what's hap bruh khufu. been a minute. so u relocated 2 the big jungle. nah Black folk ain't free cuz we've been tricked. somebody told us we were emancipated and we misinterpreted that with freedom. freedom is never given it must be taken...by any means necessary.
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bigchassie
Comment: AMETHYST>Chile she don't need no cyberhug, she's savin all her cyberhugs for HUUUU-EEEEEEEE! LOL! *Sing kiddie song* JAVON AND HUIE SITTIN IN A TREE! K-I-S-S-I-N-G!! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH! LOL!
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVON> LOL! just teasing kiddo! *wink-wink* lol!
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amethyst
Comment: Speak, barnone. The oppressor never concedes power because he wakes up one day and has a great revelation that he is wrong. The oppressed must demand change.
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dcdouglass01
Comment: The stations can't do any predictions before the polls close, so here's my prediction: NC - Obama 52%, Clinton 48%. IN - Obama 45%, Clinton 55%.
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVON>my brother's first wife was named Javon.
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bigchassie
Comment: DCDOUG>yeah, that smells right.
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Taurusingr
Comment: javonne77:...See!!...I KNEW you were "the playa"!!! YOU THE ONE with all the "cyberboos!!! LOL!!...Now where's ReginaBio1???? LMBAO!!!! I'll holla!!!!(said like Cedric the Entertainer!!)
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bigchassie
Comment: okay yall...everybody pray that Obama pulls this primary through. i'm tired of looking at Hillery's butt. yall take it easy, greazy! tootles!
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Taurusingr
Comment: Speaking of Sillary!! Has anyone other than me notice that SHE has been allowed to play the "VAGINA CARD" to feminist & EVERYONE saying how great it would be for a WOMAN to win!!, but if "O" says ANYTHING bout being the 1st BLACK man to win????...That shyt would DESTROY HIS %*$!!! Just another example of the "ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM"!!!...ie..... RACISM!!!!
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dcdouglass01
Comment: I'm also going to begin to keep an index (by date) of Hillary's pantsuits. Today it appears she is wearing black pants, black top, with an aqua green blazer. Her kneck beads are about the size of pecans and are mostly aqua green as well.
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javone77
Comment: okay a lot has happened since I left work. LOL amethyst: you're cool..:) but you are right sometimes things do get misconstrued when its only words to rely on. :-)
bigchassie: you trippin!
taurus: LOL in the words of someone else we know "I DIDN'T KNOW!!!" ;-)
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unclekipper
Comment: dr, wright NEVER attacked barack obama!
who in the world is this samuels woman?
as for her, and the rest of you idiotic lemmings,
know that the truth is not always easy to accept.
go, daddy j!
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Taurusingr
Comment: javonne77:....Yeah RIGHT!!! sml!! I remember when you & Huey "fus" started talkin & I'm pretty sure YOU KNEW WHO you were talkin to!!! LOL!!! But it's cool thou..I always say...Let a playa ....PLAY!!! LMBAO!!!
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