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fanteeking
Comment: Yes, all of what Rev. Wright said during his press club interview was factual and on the money but it was the venue and the timimg that troubled folks. Reverend Wright maliciously and willfully torpedoed the presidential aspirations of a certain Barach Obama here last night. Many of those older, catholic voters in South Bend, Indiana said that Reverend Wright's rants convinced them to vote for Hilliary. So Reverend Wright should give himself a standing ovation for giving the Indiana win to Hillary and prolonging this political misery. Reverend, you're still enjoying your 15 minutes of fame, but you'll go down in history as another type of Clarence Thomas who sold your people down the river for 30 pieces of silver. All the good that was manifested via your various church ministries a la feeding the poor, clothing the naked, ministering to the prisoners will be overshadowing by your "stabbing the Obama".
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TGen
Comment: I'm glad a White person FINALLY admitted to understanding where Rev. Wright was coming from, instead of portraying all this faux outrage and disbelief, pretending that the man was some kind of loon just pulling theories out of his azz. Kudos to Rosie for having the guts to say it out loud. But fanteeking, I totally disagree with you. I know you share the sentiment of a lot of folk, but I for one don't believe Wright "maliciously" hurt Obama's campaign. I think he underestimated the media and stepped into a world he was unprepared for. I think his main reason for speaking out was to defend himself. True he answered the "were you upset Obama denounced you?" question with a knock on BO's integrity and he could have been more nuanced in his word choice, but the question ITSELF was DESIGNED to illicit that kind of response. It was a tacky question on its face and one that showed the media's sensationalist appetite considering that on the other hand they were saying BO DIDN'T "denounce" Wright, lol. So the question in and of itself was designed to cause a rift between the two outspoken Black men...I'm just sad they allowed it to happen. But in my view, Wright's biggest mistake was not being prepared before speaking out, not the speaking out itself. Jmo...
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yardi76
Comment: As much as I don't like Rosie, she does make good sense and I do get her point and so did those twits on the Today Show but they were trying to play dumb and she knew it. The simple fact of the matter is that as Rosie said this country is not really ready to look in the mirror right now. Too many ugly things to see. For the first time I have to Big Up Rosie because she was smart enough to listen to more than a sound bite.
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Grace12_34
Comment: For the LAST time, Rosie, you dumb cluck, 3/5 of the total slave population were counted for the purposes of representation in Congress!!!
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Grace12_34
Comment: My guess is that the Reverend Wright will try to ease himself out of the spotlight now that it has been revealed he began messing around with the wife of a parishoner he was supposed to be counseling. The good Reverend is married to the woman now. Perhaps he and his fiery sermons will recede into the cosmos.
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goodnplenty1957
Comment: its going to be hard to find a black person who dont understand what rev wright and other black preachers say in the pulpit. ministers tend to say what we all wanted to say but didnt have a venue to be heard. all we are say rev,,bad timing. my question is what you gonna do now since your girl hillary is sinking faster than whale dookie? and we (black folk) know the media acts like a DJ, takes a sentence and sample the F out of it till it becomes a hit. well REV, YOU GOT A GOLD CD FOR THAT ONE. ...so i figure you got about one or two minutes left before your fiddeen minutes are up.
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McNasty
Comment: I was one that had lost a lot of respect for Rosie clowning the way she did but I was fortunate enough on Monday to happen upon the today show where rosie was a guest. She couldn't have explained it any better if she tried. She actually went and read the whole sermon and concurred with what he was saying. I'm not saying that she is the voice of amerikkka but she is one of the most opinionated controversial 'I don't give a damn' individuals in the us and if she can be objective about it so too should the others that called the Rev. a racist and just totally wrong.
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McNasty
Comment: Fanteeking I don't think the Rev. will ever live down throwing Obama under the bus and now that this new scandal is surfacing his only hope is that the new pastor of hip hop taking over from him is such that he can make the parishoners forget or at least put it on the back burner. If he had just left it at the sermon he could saunter slowly off into the sunset.
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McNasty
Comment: Exumun was so so very right in his post the other day so sillary winning indiana isn't really a great loss - she'll never catch up and we'll never let her count florida and michigan.
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TGen
Comment: Grace12_34, WHAT? I hadn't heard that! I just did some research though, and you are so right. Wow, I can't believe that! lol So um yeah, you're right. I'm guessing that means that's all we've heard from the Rev. Just...wow. SMH
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fanteeking
Comment: Tgen: I see your point but you can defend yourself by not dragging other folks (Obama) under the bus with you. This man is a heavily credentialed minister with a doctorate in divinity and two masters and I think he knew full well that WHATEVER he said, he'd have to measure with a chemistry lab scale, because the Hillary/McCain Klan would be out there tryna spin it. Somebody got to'em and pulled his coat 'cause he's been pretty quiet lately. On another note, I'm so proud of us's in Indiana especially Indianapolis, Gary, East Chicago and South Bend. We turned out in droves and I didn't see ONE Hillary commercial pitchman/woman on TV. At my polling station, I saw this one Black lady guide her elderly Grandmother in who appeared to be quite ill. The Grandmother voted and made her mark. It made me wanna shed a tear.
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TGen
Comment: Fanteeking, good point. Dude should have known better and you're probably right, he got word that not just the BO camp but A LOT of Black folks were not feeling his "world tour," lol, and he decided to back off (coupled with the news Grace12_34 shared). On IN, I wish I could be as excited as you and others, but I really, REALLY wanted BO to take both states, to shut the whole thing down once and for all, cuz just as I suspected a lot of the msm is giving HER the headlines, not him. I saw it the past couple days. No matter that BO had just won Guam and was getting more and more Superdelegates out the yin yang, the msm were still propping her up. I wanted them to HAVE to give up on her this morning and her win in IN (however small) allowed that to happen. I want her to be GONE, for GOOD. Indiana fell short, so I can't feel the excitement like most, not right this sec...but I'm getting there, lol.
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Kara
Comment: I am so trying to figure out how Rev Wright threw Obama under a bus, if anything, it was the other way around. If we all can agree that alot of what Reverend Wright said made sense, how is it that Obama got on national television and comdemned, oh my bad, "denounced" his statements. We all understand why he did it, but nevertheless, he threw Rev Wright under the bus. That's like me and my best friend having a conversation where she is like "yeah, I understand what you are saying," and then going around the corner telling everybody that she doesn't agree with my views. And all I heard Rev. Wright say, was that Obama was doing what Politicians do. HELLO... Obama IS a politician. All politicians spin. All politicians are forced by the American people to walk the tight rope of being "politically correct." It's time for people to stop being so sensitive about the TRUTH.
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Renetta
Comment: Rosie is a Clinton supporter - http://acoffeetogo.blogspot.com/2007/12/bffs-president ial-candidates-and.html - check it out. She is just trying to keep this shyt in the air. Let it go. It didn't work hillary. Rev Wright has 5 degrees and he knew going in front of the national press would only make things worse - he was Bill Clintons advisor during the Monica crisis - I hope he wasn't bought off by the clintons, but in this day and age nothing surprises me... as for Rosie - she's a clinton shill trying to keep the Rev Wright controversy alive. Let it go hillary.
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MDhornet
Comment: Kara, he threw him under the bus when he knowingly threw gasoline on a fire that was seriously threatening Obama's campaign. Obama remained loyal to him when the controversy first began, but when Wright got up and implied that Obama secretly agreed with his "anti-american" sentiments (media's description, not mind), Wrigt betrayed him. He is an educated man who should have known what kind of controversy those kinds of comments would ignite. Obama had no choice after that but to denounce him. He's not going to get to the White House if people think he agrees with some of what Wright has been saying. Has Wright been misunderstood and mis-portrayed by the media? Yes. Were his recent comments ill-timed and foolish? Yes. He should have known better. save that mess for after Obama gets into the White House.
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fanteeking
Comment: Kara, politics is a poker game. You never show your hand or the expression on your face until the last card hits the table. Reverend Wright knew full well that Obama had to make those distancing statements against him lest he lose a large voting block of white, blue-collar workers who MAY have supported him...a little. Reverend Wright was more concerned with his legacy than Black folks getting our first, BONA-FIDE Black PRESIDENT. Before, this election I never heard of Reverend Wright....just a big city preacher with a big church...America is full of'em. But somehow his ego saw his legacy BIGGER than Obama being PRESIDENT of the U. S. Wright knew what he wuz doin', it jest backfired on his azz.
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TGen
Comment: Mdhornet, I had a [day]dream the other day that once BO gets in the White House, he and Wright would meet, talk, hug, and be okay again, lol. I reeeally hate how that whole thing went down. It seemed they allowed "others'" divide-and-conquer tactics to work, and I was hoping both would have been stronger than that. But that's water under the bridge. I just hope that some kind of relationship can be repaired because whatever his faults, Wright played a major role in BO becoming who he is, and Wright has also led a lot of leaders in that congregation full of influential professionals throughout the state. So I want him to be okay after this, to get his good name back...same for Obama.
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NYCsoul
Comment: I have to give Rosie props for being objective. I don't agree with alot of what she says, but she's right on target. And those voters who 'claimed' they didn't vote for BO in Indiana because of Rev. Wright's comments weren't going to vote for him anyway. He still has more delegates than Hillary so right about now, she is barely holding on by a thread.
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Kara
Comment: >fanteeking and MDhornet... you both are proving my point. The only thing I heard Reverend Wright say, is exactly what you both are saying regarding politics. There is a need to spin. I am trying to understand why everyone thinks that Rev. Wright was supposed to sit back and allow 20 years of ministry to go down the drain, so that Barack can be President. When the bigger issue is that Rev Wright's comments shouldn't have been a factor in Obama's electibility in the first place. Hell, Clinton lied out of her own mouth and received a pass. This reminds me of a very important comment Rev Wright made during the question and answer session. If God wants Barack Obama to be President, there isn't anything that anyone can do to stop that. I read the entire transcript, and looking at the situations from all view points, I don't get him throwing Obama under the bus. I see a lot of people wanting Rev.Wright to remain under the bus that Obama threw him under until we do enough but kissing to allow Barack to become President.
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fanteeking
Comment: TGen: Maybe one day, they'll sit down at the table of brotherly/fatherly love and break bread. Ministers are HUMAN like errybody else so I hope and pray that Reverend Wright would take a deep and comprehensive look inside his soul to determine his reason for his motivation in this whole sordid situation. Barack took the high road and DID NOT throw Reverend under the bus and for his patience and understanding of the situation, he gets blindsided by a 75 year old outside linebacker with a cross on his helmet.
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Kara
Comment: ... which is cool, but let's tell the truth. Wright was put under the bus by Obama because that's what White America demanded of him. And everyone wanted Rev. Wright to become the sacrificial lamb to ensure that Obama has the best chance at becoming President.
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Grace12_34
Comment: Fanteeking, that would be a 66-year-old "linebacker with a cross on his helmet." Reverend Wright doesn't even LOOK 66, much less 75!!
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NYCsoul
Comment: Kara, you couldn't have said better than I could. It seems to me that you cannot be objective or offer any critique of Obama. I'm more concern about what Obama will do about the economy, the stagnation of wages, and on and on. Rev. Wright has the right to speak like everyone else but he should sacrifice what he has worked hard for all his life in the name of politics. I hope folks continue to have this enthusiasum IF BO becomes president because I have a feeling folks are going to turn on him quick if he does not do what they want him to do. Truth is politicians will say and do anything to get elected. It is all about how they can deliver and get their message across effectively to the masses.
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katgrrrl
Comment: Kara: I agree. That's how I felt about the Wright/Obama debacle from day one! <> A LOT of people agree with Wright. Why's Rosie's opinion so important?
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SilentJay
Comment: Go back and listen to Jaysmooth on Illdoctrine when he was talking about what Keys allegedly said(she clarified it later)I know its kind of old but the stuff about how this government has done things to sabbotauge black empowerment is true and directly relates to what Rosie is saying.
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DCGG
Comment: Fuvk trying to explain what Rev Wright said/meant. I totally understood everything he said, those that don't or won't are too fuvked up in the mind and I don't have time to give a shyt...oh and Rosie ya still a fat lard azz...but I give ya props for speaking up...
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realuvbaby
Comment: Wright has been silent, and we should now be silent on him. We got bigger fish to fry now, as we are one day closer to the presidency. Our efforts should now be towards connecting with those voters whose support has been eluding Obama and show them that in the end, we have more in common than we have differences and there's no need to FEAR people who are different than you. We are all impacted by the same factors every day: the economy, the war, education and opportunities for our children, for example. We must convince that Obama's vision for America, there's hope for everyone who is willing to put forth some positive effort, not just the greedy.
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Thunny
Comment: While Wright may have been dead on in his comments, he needs to STFU immediately. Why is it always the crabs in a barrel syndrome for us?
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TGen
Comment: Kara, you make a good point, but rest assured, saying someone "didn't really mean what they said" is most def. throwing someone under the bus, lol, directly questioning his integrity. Now, while I understood where Wright was coming from and the first time (in the Moyers interview) it didn't bother me, the second time, at the Press Club Q&A was more alarming. It's true that Obama is a politician and had to say something to speak to his larger audience, implying the man is a liar which is effectively what Wright did to him, is a dealbreaker. I think this, more than anything else Wright said, is what led Obama to "denounce" him (which really hurt me I must admit). So while I agree that Wright had a right to defend himself and I don't think he was necessarily malicious against Obama, his calling him a liar begged for a strong retort. Wright may be naive, I give him the benefit of the doubt there, but he is no saint, and he was dead wrong for calling that man a liar (even if that's what he believes.) There was a better way to say the same thing, which leads to my earlier point. Dude should have been prepped before stepping into the lion's den.
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Big10
Comment: NYCsoul you are correct about those people who we're not going to vote for Obama in the first place. Using Rev Wright as an excuse not to vote for Barack is really a code word for "Aint no way in hell i'm voting for a N!&&#% to represent this country".
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barnone
Comment: ok c'mon my peeps...let's not get stuck on stupid. how did JW throw BO under the bus. anybody born before 1980 has been Black 2 damn long 2 know how the game is played. and JW's behind sho nuf been a player n the game 2 long 2 know the dealy o. we got 2 b the spook that sat by the door. how u gone roll up on your enemy face forward. u creep through the back door and catch him slipping. and 4 those who seem 2 have amnesia. when this ish first surfaced BO said "i can no more disown Rev. JW than i can disown the Black family" i don't call that throwing him under a bus nor pandering 2 yt folk. he could have then very easily dissed JW then and it would have been expedient for him 2 do so, but he manned up. but JW's arrogant and foolish old behind forced his hand. he had no choice but 2 come back and distance himself from JW.
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fanteeking
Comment: NEWS FLASH from INDY-NEWS: Hillary Rodham Clinton has just loaned herself 6.4 MILLION dollars to beef up her struggling campaign. If my math serves me correctly, she now has 'loaned' herself almost 12 MILLION dollars. Subtract that from the 112 MILLION dollars that she and Bill have 'earned' (speaking engagements) since leaving the White House) and the have a grand total of 100 MILLION in their bank account. I guess, six-pack bubba Bill can REALLY identify with those out-of-work, blue-collar coal miners he'll be meeting in West Virginia. Now, who did Hillary call ELITIST?? LOL!!!
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Renetta
Comment: Rosie could give a %*$! less about black people – she was the one who slammed Star Jones and Michael Jackson so I don’t trust anything she says in reference to us. Either Rev Wright did what he did because he wanted Obama to have a reason to cut ties with him completely so it would no longer be an issue OR he is secretly working for the Clintons. Why in the world would he peacock in front the national press and slam Obama by saying “I’ma come after you!” All that did was reinforce their views of him as being a kook. You don’t tell someone I’ma come after you – you pull the brother to the side and say listen – if you do get elected, there are some things that need to be dealt with. I live in Chicago, in a building full of Wright supporters and even THEY think Wright could have handled it better and some fear he may have been compromised by the Clintons. I’m praying that’s not the case, but Wright knows the white press ain’t gonna to sit still while he blames white america for the black aids crisis. They ain’t trying to hear that 9/11 - we got what we deserved message either and he KNOWS that. We may feel differently but white press would slam him so why would he use that as a platform to defend his image. Either he did it to free Obama from him or he was bought off by hillary.
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TGen
Comment: Renetta, I understand the problems you have with Wright, but I think you're a bit overzealous. You're taking that "I'm coming after you comment" completely out of context. If anything, that HELPED Obama, lol, because it made Wright look more like an independent entity instead of someone tied at the hip to Obama. In fact, that was Wright's point, that his criticism was not against one person or color of people, but against US policies, and he followed that "coming after you" comment with [paraphrasing] "because you will then represent the flawed policies of this country." So there's a lot to get on Wright about, but that is not one of them. I think it's important to be honest in our criticisms...Lord knows we've seen what damage taking soundbites out of context can do, lol
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fanteeking
Comment: TGen: U R the voice of reason!!!!
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Southernbelle
Comment: Thanks Kara, I'm in total agreement. In regards to Rosie, at least she's opened minded enough to listen to the entire speach before giving an opinion. One of which I agree with.
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Southernbelle
Comment: opps, that should read speech.
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Kara
Comment: >TGen... Question for you.... do you think Obama would have denounced Reverend Wright's comments had a) Obama not been running for President b)people weren't up in arms about the comments or c) if the comments were never brought to the light like they were... Your answer should be a resounding NO. Based on this, Obama was doing what politicians do by addressing the comments, and seperating himself from the comments. Which is what Wright said. Based on the transcript Wright was asked a question... MS. LEINWAND: What is your motivation for characterizing Senator Obama's response to you as, quote, "what a politician had to say"? What do you mean by that?
REV. WRIGHT: What I mean is what several of my white friends and several of my white Jewish friends have written me and said to me. They said, "You're a Christian. You understand forgiveness. We both know that if Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected." Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls -- Huffington, whoever's doing the polls. Preachers say what they say because they are pastors. They have a different person to whom they're accountable.
As I said, whether he gets elected or not, I'm still going to have to be answerable to God, November 5th and January 21st. That's what I mean. I do what pastors do. He does what politicians do. I am not running for office. I am hoping to being vice president. (Laughter.)
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adifferentpath
Comment: TGen, on talk radio and other blogs, some other white folks have admitted to understanding Rev. Wright. Hey! They may be the exception. She is Wright about one thing, Amerikka is not ready to face it's issues.
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Renetta
Comment: I’m passionate yes but still clear in thought – and I don’t believe the “I’m coming after you” or any of his other statements helped anyone but himself. Sorry. He knew better. I don’t want to believe it either because I’ve spoken with the man and know he’s intelligent. There was nothing for him to gain by going in for him to gain by going in front of the white press. I stand by my analysis – either Wright did it to force Obama to cut ties or he’s being paid by the clintons…
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adifferentpath
Comment: ! and one more thing, in my few years of life, the government has done "experiments" on minorities under the guise of "vitamins" etc. so our distrust of the fairly new medical community and the government in general is...well placed. ...let's not EVEN get into police abuse/brutality/b.s.
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Kara
Comment: Based on this, in my opinion, Rev. Wright is being characterized as a backstabber, Judast, etc. because he said in an open forum, what people have been saying behind closed doors since this began. We all think, or believe, that Obama did what he had to do. He spoke out against Wright's comments because if he didn't it was going to affect votes.
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adifferentpath
Comment: .=>goodnplenty, off the topic question, how fast does whale dookie sink? does it sink at all?
ok, sorry, I HAD to ask! =)
I get your point tho!
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adifferentpath
Comment: THUNNY!!!!???? Heya!!!
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Southernbelle
Comment: Damn, I'm having a bad typing day that should read, "oops". Wow, this man has been labled a kook, a 75 year old linebacker and a whole lot of other negative things, in just this one blog. Is this not the same man that Obama attended his church for over 20 years? Is this not the same man that Obama turned to for spiritual and emotional guidance? Is this not the same man that Obama declared was like family to him? IMO, through Obama's own admiration of this man that I conclude that Rev. Wright played a very active role in molding Obama into the man he is today. Our biological family we can't choose but Obama chose this man. He may be a just a "big city preacher" to some but to Obama he was highly respected man, up until the day he was "forced" to denounce him. I'm an Obama supporter and I trust his judgement which why I can't believe that this man is anything other than sincere in his actions. If Wright's a "kook" and Obama was his follower for so many years what does that say about him? Well, at least the yt woman gets it.
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barnone
Comment: KARA> question 4 u...if a madman has a loaded gun pointed at your head and demand u 2 profess your love 4 Buddah r u going 2 say no i'm a christian and it would b against my beliefs 2 do so or r u going 2 say what u need 2 say 2 spare your life? the world isn't that black and white. it's about what is needed 2 achieve a greater cause. and if rev. JW being the sacrificial lamb is what was required n achieving this than yes he should have been. it's called nationalism. we all know rev JW's words were the truth but what good do those words do 4 us as a people n the long run other than appeal 2 our emotions. how do they solve our problems? how do we benefit from them? what's the point n telling yt folk, at this juncture, that they ish stank when they r he!! bent on thinking it don't. there is a time and place 4 everything and his timing was off point blank. he knew better. and let's stop being mythical.."if God wants BO to b prez than he will" maybe God wants us 2 get up off our behinds and claim our freedom, take this presidency, be the people of God we r capable of being.
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TGen
Comment: Kara, OBVIOUSLY Obama wouldn't have "denounced" Wright if he didn't have to. Any FOOL knows he knew how incendiary his pastor could get. DUH! lol And DUH, YES, NEWSFLASH Barack Obama is a POLITICIAN! *GASP!* Who'dathunkit? Like for real? lol But that was a given--that should have been left unspoken. It was a media trick to ask that question, it's what the media does--try to trip folks up, try to start controversy, fights, chaos...which brings me BACK to my point. Wright should have been PREPPED BEFORE stepping into that zoo. WWhat would prepping have done? Check this out: Question: Revernd Wright, why do you think Obama denounced you? Were you offended? Answer: Barack Obama is a grown man, as am I. He has his opinions, as do I. He has a right to express his opinions, as do I. I don't take "offense" because another grown man disagrees me with on something. That is his right, his pergorgative, and even his right to speak out about it. He and I speak to different audiences. His job requires someone who is open-minded and able to bridge different gaps while not focusing only on the negative things about this country. My job does not require such nuance. I can speak vocally and forcefully and even controversially about this country because my audience understands where I'm coming from. I don't have to bridge the same divide that Obama does. That does not make me right or him wrong. It does not make him somehow dishonest or me somehow righteous. It's just a disagreement among two respectable people who share some, but maybe not all, of the same values. Again, we are separate individuals with separate minds and separate hearts. Should you have any more questions about Barack Obama, I suggest you ask him. I am here to speak about Jeremiah Wright--a COMPLETELY different individual. Next..."
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PRDC
Comment: If each and everyone of us was put into a cituation like the Rev. was put in...we would have done the samething. Its best that he came out like he did so not to give them something else to throw on the fire. Like he said Barack is a politician and he's a pastor. If its meant to be...it will be. It easy for us to say now what we would have done, but UNTIL you are put into a place like that, we don't know what we will do and that's a fact. God is with Barack and he will be just fine. So if what he said was true, it shouldn't matter when he came out with it. Its the guilty people that can't deal with it.
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YLawdY
Comment: I give Rosie credit for taking time to actually READ before giving her opinion. Further points for actually getting it. The truth is Rev. Wright told the truth and anyone embracing that truth on the the campaign trail would be cutting their campaign short. Subject matter is just too scary for the average pank to deal with. Hey Thunny! Haven't seen your name in a while.
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spittinthetruth
Comment: Rosie can rant (out of passion) sometimes too and be intolerant when folks don't agree with her. I think she was right about Rev. Wright when placed in some context. I personally don't agree with everything he said, but he made some very valid points as I have said in previous posts. I had long been waiting for one of the other mainstream pastors to speak out in defense that all churches don't espouse such radical beliefs. Only two have that I know of (Eugene Rivers and T.D. Jakes) Without throwing Rev. Wright under the bus, I think this link solidifies that other pastors respectfully disagree with him.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/05/jakes/index.htm l?iref=newssearch
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Kara
Comment: > TGEN... all I have to say to your response is Wow. So in essence, you wanted Rev. Wright to lie, so that Obama could remain electable. He said over and over again, he is Pastor, Obama is politican... what does that equal to... Wright didn't have to lie or spin in his response, all he had to do was give his opinion.
>barnone... in the words of Martin Luther King Jr. "justice delayed is justice denied." That man had every right to defend himself in the time frame that HE chose to. Sorry, I wouldn't sacrifice myself so that Obama could become President and I don't think Rev. Wright should either. If Obama is supposed to be President, he will be. It's a much bigger testimony for Obama to be able to say that they tried everything up their sleeve to prevent this from happening but it happened anyway. Rev. Wright, his church, and their legacy should not have to be a casualty in the war for Obama to President. Next, you'll be telling me it's okay for Obama to denounce Black people so white Americans will feel more comfortable with him being President.
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TheDuke
Comment: I am new to this board. However, I felt compelled to comment on this subject. Rosie is correct. Just because she acknowledged Rev. Wright's comments as the truth doesn't mean she's against Obama. I am for the Clintons. When I look back, blacks were most successful during the Clinton's Administration. You only need look around now to see where the majority of blacks are. Obama is too inexperienced, I don't care if he's black, green or purple. He's very good as a orator and spewing all sort of rhetoric. If 90% of blacks are voting for him, what happens if he loses the election and McCain wins? Talk about putting all of your eggs in one basket. Where were all of you eager voters during Shirley Chisolms' run for the white house or Jesse Jackson for that matter. We forget very quickly his contributions to the cause, where can Obama's contributions be found?
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YLawdY
Comment: Welcome TheDuke...respectfully, the CLINTON'S aren't running for president. Hillary is! As for where folks were during Chisolm and Jackson's runs.....most on this board were either to young or unborn, so it's really apples and oranges.
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mandinka_99
Comment: Lawd, lawd, lawd ... y'all better git right!! As my grandma used to say "Y'all know Jesus is 'bout to bust 'dem clouds and come back ..." when a white lesbian UNDERSTANDS & AGREES with a Black preacher who in the next breath is just as likely to denounce her for her homsexuality. All this on top of Obama getting just with arms reach of the Oval Office!!! Get Ready !! THE DEVIL IS LOOKING FOR A SPACE HEATER AND AN ELECTRIC BLANKET!! THE END IS NEAR!!!!
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TheDuke
Comment: YLawdY
Sorry about my error, when Bill Clinton was in office. Having been married for over 20 years, I guess I erred in saying that Hillary was a part of the administration. personally, I know that her opinion mattered to the President greatly. I guess I am just sick of black folks saying that I am a bad person for not supporting Obama. I just think we have a very short memory when it comes to what someone has done for us. Obama isn't even addressing any issues that I have as a black citizen. I don't care about the excuse folks use in saying that he can't show his hand now or he'll never be elected. Apparently he's showing it to some other Americans, just not blacks at the moment.
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Eastwood
Comment: "You're taking that "I'm coming after you comment" completely out of context. If anything, that HELPED Obama, lol, because it made Wright look more like an independent entity instead of someone tied at the hip to Obama." TGen, you hit on something I been thinking about for awhile. After I sat and thought about what the heck Reverend Wright coulda been thinking, it dawned on me that perhaps he was merely attempting to put space between him and Obama. If he could "appear" to be so extreme (some would say nuttish), folks would write him off as someone not to be paid attention to...at least not by intelligent folk. And I believe it's working.
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DOne
Comment: >TheDuke, the economy boom of the 90s had very little to do with Bill Clinton; the ecomony was driving by the technological boom: the internet, CD players, DVD tech. Those things would have taken place no matter who was president. It was a good time, but its one that we will likely not see again in our lifetime unless some new innovation comes alone that creates a boom. Neither Hillary, Obama, or anyone else is going to magically bring those days back. The bubble bust before Clinton left office and then Bush simply ignored the situation for 8 years.
As for Wright, while I agree with some of what he said and disagree with some, he didn't say anything new or particularly profound so I too question his timing.
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