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Selah
Comment: Two professional athletes for Karl Malone. I guess the mailman can Deliver, but he has a problem with raising his children.
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blaquebaby
Comment: Man the mailman is jus full of surprises!
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FiveMore
Comment: I can't stand "deadbeat" dads or moms!Congrats goes out to Demetrius because Karl Malone is a severe jerk! WOW!!!He couldn't find a twenty year old to date while he played at Louisiana Tech?Uhmmm, these guys are raving lunatics and should be put under the jails of America!!!
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JFromMO
Comment: Forget that he wasn't there to raise the child. How 'bout the fact that she was only 12 or 13 when he impregnated her and he was twenty? Why is no on speaking on that? That makes him a pedophile. At the very least this is statutory rape. She was hardly old enough to consent. Unfortunately the statute of limitations has run out so he can't be prosecuted. I used to like him. I'll never look at him the same again.
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javone77
Comment: Oh. my God! I used to have a lot of respect for him but he is just taking this too far. My dad is from Lousiana and his peopel are crazy! My grandfather which I didn't meet until I was like 10..and only saw twice after that, left my grandmother with 8 children and she moved to dallas. Then when I met him, he was married to a retarded girl that my mom used to tech at the special school. he was maybe 50...she could be no older than maybe 17. I was like WTH?!?!?
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TGen
Comment: WOW! What a story!
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FiveMore
Comment: Javone77, I am from Louisiana and I have good sense, lol!Malone does seem a little slow to me, though!He's crazy!
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Grace12_34
Comment: JFromMO, I know from personal experience that parents almost never press charges in a case like this (i.e., when the girl is pregnant). The girl's parents had to take him to court for child support, and he thought $125/week was "excessive" for an NBA player just starting out?! How sad that this father and son will never have a relationship. Malone fathered twins when he was 17, three years before Demetrius was born. The twins are now treated as "full members of the family" by Mr. Malone and his wife. No WONDER Demetrius thinks of him as a sperm bank.
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nightshift
Comment: I feel so bad for Demetrius...to have his pervert father called out. I guess you have ot be a man to understand this sickness. I wish the young man well, and to be a better man.
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McNasty
Comment: JFfromMO you took the words from me! I read this story quite some time ago and lost all interest because the mother never pres.sed charges on this grown as.s man for statutory rape! Granted the 12 or 13 year old was probably a fast as.s but she was still not of consenting age! In the end she didn't get a father for the kid and never got child support. Karl Malone would have had to pay ALL monies due and owing cause there ain't that much pride in the world.
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McNasty
Comment: Grace she may as well have not gotten child support - he's an nba player and considering all the other exorbitant monies paid for these kids $125 a week is a pittance.
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JFromMO
Comment: Grace - It shouldn't matter whether the parents pressed charges or not. He raped a child. And what makes it worse is if they did go to court for child support, how many other people knew about this? They should have taken him straight to jail. How old was the mother of the twins he fathered? Nine? I'm completed disgusted by him and all those who knew and did nothing.
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PRDC
Comment: Was there a reason she didn't come forward?
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Capricorn_queen
Comment: and you guys have the nerve to bash R. Kelly. A lot of black men are guilty of this foolery. It has been going on for years. Do ya'll think he need to be in jail? Nope. IT WAS CONSENSUAL!!!!!!
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Selah
Comment: Is there a statute of limitations for rape? If not, Malone better relocate to another country- AND QUICK!!
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305FLgirl
Comment: This is disgusting. Not only did he impregnate a child when he was a grown man but he didn't take responsibility for his child. That's an absolute shame! Luckily Demetrius made it without him. He could have ended up like some of the other fatherless kids out there up to no good but he had options and chose not to go that route.
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Exmun
Comment: Damn Karl. This is outrageous and a shame.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: the real story is that this is a case of child abuse because a grown, 20-year-old man had sex with a child which is not consensual in the United States of America . . . . . shame on any US jurisdiction that let this sports entertainer get away with this child sex abuse crime . . . . . shame on anybody who thinks that Kelley, Malone, and unknown many other people [men and women] can sexually prey on our children with impunity . . . . heavy sigh, shoulders drooped, WTF? brain freeze
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Grace12_34
Comment: JFromMO. He did not "rape" that girl. At age 20, he had sex with a minor who could not, UNDER THE LAW, give consent. That is why it is called "statutory rape." He did not force himself on the girl. She spread 'em, and he jumped in. Let's call it what it IS. This isn't the first case, and it won't be the last!!!
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Platinum
Comment: What was consensual?, 'cause a twelve/thirteen yr old don't consent to anything. Should Malone go to jail....you darn skippy he should!
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Grace12_34
Comment: McNasty, you are absolutely right. That's the reason why a settlement was reached in that case. As nosey as I am, I can't seem to find out the amount though. LOL
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TGen
Comment: Javone77, wow to that story! So disturbing! It seems a lot of families have these disgusting stories to tell. Wow. P.S. I never had a lot of respect for KMalone. In fact, he was always one of my LEAST favorite players, mostly because he had that "Tom" thing going on, at least that was my perspective, lol...
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Grace12_34
Comment: Capricorn_queen, I'm missed your post. You are SO right! WHERE THE HEYELL have these people been?!!!! (And I'm NOT saying it's right, so don't jump all over me, y'all. BACK UP!)
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Sexee
Comment: Do your thang MEACHIE!
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Sexee
Comment: JFromMO ~ no one is speaking on because ALOT of men are with young gurls.. Why do you think it's taking so long for R Smelly to be tried.. Because a great deal of men are doing it and they can not caste stones...
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DCGG
Comment: Another trifaling azz negro, not handling his responsiblities...what about back child support?? Karl Malone, I hope you rot in hell you nasty trifaling bytch!
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yunvme
Comment: I dont condone this in any way. But I read he was actually 19. Is it a stretch of the imagination to think that he was 19- and he thought she was maybe 16 or so? Its damn near like a senior in highschool dating a freshman. In that context is he a monster pedofile?
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JFromMO
Comment: Grace - I never said he forced her. In my first post I said that it was statutory rape. I know why it's called what it's called. It's still rape, forced or otherwise. Because she willing did doesn't make it okay for her or for any other CHILD. He took advantage of her whether you want to admit to that or not. He was the adult, therefore he should be held accountable. /Selah - I believe the statute of limits for rape is five years. Don't quote me on that.
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Grace12_34
Comment: One thing that is DIFFERENT about "R Smelly," I mean Kelly, is that unlike these YOUNG MEN who have just left adolescence, the age difference is MUCH greater (although the crime itself is the same), and R Smelly, I mean KELLY, did not impregnate anyone to complicate the issue. Contrast Karl Malone, 6 to 8 years older than this girl and just leaving HIS teens, to R Smelly, I mean Kelly, being old enough to be these girls' father and not impregnating them. (Same crime but different circumstances.) Of course, the life of the girl who is pregnant will be far worse because HER life now includes a child and HER future is trashed. In these kinds of cases, the parents basically want the young man to "do right," and maybe marry the girl if that's possible (which isn't always the answer either). Parents are thinking FAMILY, not PROSECUTION.
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MelodyCool
Comment: This is the same thing Karl did to Cheryl of the Detroit Shocks. How can he live with himself laying up in the lap of luxury with his white woman and "those" kids but deaf and dumb to the suffering of those black ones left behind. He ain't nothing!
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Grace12_34
Comment: JFromMO, there wouldn't be enough room on this planet and all the other ones to "hold accountable" all or even a fraction of the young men and older men who have impregnated young girls. And THAT is reality.
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JFromMO
Comment: yunvme - I won't speculate as to what Karl 'may have thought'. To my knowledge, he hasn't denied any of this we can't say for sure. And even if he did deny it, would we believe him? The fact is, he was 20 a y.o. MAN who slept w/a 12 y.o. CHILD AND got her pregnant. It matters not that ALOT of men do this or get away with it. We are speaking specifically about KM. He was and is wrong. A lot of someones dropped the ball in this case.
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JFromMO
Comment: Grace - So since they can't all be held accountable, we should just let them continue to victimize our girls? Are you comfortable with that?
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CRENEEJ
Comment: why hasn't this woman come forward? is it possible that she lied about her age? has karl admitted to knowing she was 12 or 13?
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Fran
Comment: Grace 12_34; um you are scaring me...."she spread them and he jumped in??" If you gave her cocaine, she probably would have sniffed it; the same with mentally retarded people; they do not have the capacity to understand the consequences or the full authority and control of there actions...She was 12 or 13; not even 17?? That is RAPE. I dont care what adjective you put in front of it. If you touch 4 year old, the child will probably "spread them." if you tell them to..so that is not RAPE. Your thoughts are really scary and quite sad.
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PHScott
Comment: What a hypocrite. Now I AM inclined to believe that Malone pushed up on Kobe's wife.
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Fran
Comment: The sad part about Demetrius statements is that his mother could not have gone to the sperm bank at 12 or 13 and asked to be impregnated.
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TheQuietGuy
Comment: all i can say is this im not one of those men that sleep with underage girls. R. Smelly is a perv and so is karl. So what if he was 20 hr knew what he was doing. Just say no!!!
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Platinum
Comment: JFromMO you're right on with all of your comments. There's nothing new under the sun, so I really don't know what point these people are trying to make by stating that this mess has been going on for years like it's no big deal. Regardless of how long its been going on it still doesn't make it right or acceptable.
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TheQuietGuy
Comment: Also the parents are to blame as well becuase they said and did nothting.Why is this to protect his rep? To hell with that-People got to go for justice.We are we going to march as raise hell for other things and not raise hell for our children. Alot of people dropped the ball and karl is not going to own up to this. He only owned up to the twins because it started to get National Attn- and his daughter cheryl was considered to have a potential career in the WNBA.
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McNasty
Comment: Capricorn queen it sounds like you're one of the ones that still listen to ruh's music and can overlook that he's a child molester. Both of these men are dangerous because if they did it once there is no reason to believe they haven't done it again or won't. The things the black community have become accepting of and the excuses we continue to make for bad behavior have gotten us almost in ruins.
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TheQuietGuy
Comment: let us not forget that there have been alot of pro athletes out here messing with youngsters, Roger Clemens, Travis Henry (hell alot of us were ready to through him under the bus too remember that??) Karl needs to be held accountable for this.
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arkansasgirl
Comment: I knew there was a reason I didn't like him. Grace, the twins only became "full members of the family" about 5 yrs ago. The twin son still doesn't fool with him like the twin daughter does who plays for the Detriot Shock. MelodyCool, Karl's wife is black.
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MelodyCool
Comment: This goes to show how utterly color struck these men are. Karl would never have done this to a non-black woman. I always wondered why his own mom didn't encourage him to do what's right by his "first" set of children. Cheryl said she and her brother would go the corner store when they heard he was there and he wouldn't even speak to them. That ESPN article is quite revealing too. What a cold blooded SOB. How many times has he grinned and kidded around with white kids, but was totally unattentive to his own black ones. He will pay for this.
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JFromMO
Comment: PHScott - I forgot all about that!!! This sure makes her allegations more plausible now, doesn't it? /Fran - We are ><. Your first post is on point.
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Penelope
Comment: Clutch the pearls...
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MelodyCool
Comment: CRENEEJ, Cheryl Ford's mom never came forward either. I'm sure Karl knew the girl and was aware of her age. He just enjoyed destroying the lives of black females.
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McNasty
Comment: No matter how you word it karl was a teenager and the girl wasn't old enough to give consent. Regardless of his inexperience it's not rocket science to be able to tell the difference in ages once the child opened her mouth. If he communicated on her level I don't think he would have made it as far as he has nor would he still be holding on to any dough. It's wrong no matter the circumstances and who all is involved.
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TheQuietGuy
Comment: i to have wondered why karl never bothered with with his twins until the story broke. i do wonder if his mother ever got on his azz about accepting responsibility for them. I am a parent and i wish my son would try and dodge his responsibility of being a parent. We would both be in surgery to dislodge my foot from his rump. you make a baby you take care of it or them no questions asked!!
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amethyst
Comment: yunvme - You raise an interesting point. Sometimes girls look older than they are (because of physical development, make-up or clothing), or lie about their ages. I've been in these situations because I had a "body" early in my teens and sometimes had to fight off older guys, and sometimes I tried to charm older guys. If the girl claimed to be 16 or 17, it's reasonable that a 19- or 20-year-old guy would holler at her. I don't know the Karl Malone situation, so I won't judge him on that. However, he knew a child was created and should have taken responsibility as his father. I don't know a lot about Karl, does he have other children he didn't take care of? Selah, who is the other child who is also a pro athlete? What sport is he/she in?
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SpecialK
Comment: Talk about skeletons in your closet!!He should be ashamed of himself and mostly if he knew all along that this boy was his.
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katgrrrl
Comment: A lot of these athletes are a hot mess. Havin' babies all over the place n' not takin' care of them... God bless these children. Blessings to the mothers too for raisin' them without the father...regardless of their level of responsibility, cos it takes two... Prayin' for the fathers too; that they get their act together.
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amethyst
Comment: TheQuietGuy - I have a huge problem with parents who don't insist that their sons step up to the plate. It takes male and female to make a baby, so both should be around to raise it. If my teen-aged son told me his girlfriend was pregnant, my response would be "How many job applications did you put in today? Which days are you going to keep the baby over here? Have y'all looked at baby furniture, car seats and strollers yet?" If a grown son was expecting a child, I would just look at him, 'cause surely my face would say it all. If you don't respect and care enough about the person to want to share a child with him/her, you shouldn't be having sex with them. This lax attitude about sex is harming our communities so much. Too many unplanned, unwanted, unrecognized Black children are being born into drama-filled situations. And it's not just the young folks who are the culprits, some grown-azz folks who ought to know better are doing the same thing. It ticks me off. We need committed, quality Black parents, whether they are married or not. Okay, putting the soapbox back in the closet.
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leeneepoo
Comment: Hey Amethyst the Detroit Shock center Cheryl Ford #35 is his daughter.
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Southernbelle
Comment: *hanging my head in shame" Why, oh why is this sick mofo from Louisiana. Karl Malone is wrong, point blank. I'm glad this is now public knowledge b/c now his image is smeared. Now, everyone knows that he's nothing but a deadbeat dad who has a sick fetish for minors. I don't know how the laws applies to statue of limitations in this state but I'm damn sure gonna find out. This is the only state in the union that can punish you by death in a child rape case. As a result, Karl had better seek legal counsel quick.
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loveandbasketball
Comment: Amethyst, Karl Malone fathered a set of twins (boy and girl) when he was 17. He did not acknowledge or care for them, but when his daughter became a WNBA member it all came out. The son refuses to interacat with him.
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HersheysKiss
Comment: Ok... him 'knowing' her age or her 'declaring' her true age or even having fake ID is of little relevance to me. This is an indication of how little value Karl "Maleficent" Malone places on KNOWING the women he beds or cares to know about them. In addition, to have a REASONABLE expectation that a 12 y/o can handle the responsibility of making a rational, mature, and informed decision about sexual consent, informing the authorities AND raise a child while still a child her self is laughable. Come on folks, fast or angelic, a 12 y/o mind does not have the capacity to do this. Even if raised on the streets and tons of negative influences. A nurturing, loving adult could/should have helped her make that decision. Karl "Maleficent" Malone is unequivocally a pervert and rapist. And his behavior, regardless of his 'lack of knowledge', is much like the rest of the men (and women) out there that think a '1 night stand' means nothing more than the furniture adjacent to the bed. Keep polishing the knobs on that furniture, see where it will get you. PATHETIC!
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SmoothP
Comment: Unfortunately, this story is oh so familiar to a lot of our young black brothers who are in the jail system. No father. I can identify with this story so well. My father is famous as well; however, not as famous as Karl Malone. He was there for a minute then it stopped all of a sudden. He left us for another women with 3 children and then had 3 more children with her. It's tough when I try to support my father at an event and the people are telling me, "your dad is a wonderful person...we love your dad...." If they only knew. But like Demetrius, I worked hard in school and in life to be everything that he's not and to prove to him that I don't need him. With the help of God, I am doing well. Thank God for a WONDERFUL mother who was a mother and a father. Thank you MOTHER. May you continue to rest in peace.
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amethyst
Comment: leeneepoo - Isn't it ironic that children whom Karl wasn't involved with inherited his athletic ability? Are the younger kids athletes, too?
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Grace
Comment: The young lady may have lied about her age. If this happened while he was in college, chances are he was going to those collegiate parties assuming collegiate females where you don't ask for I.D. and plenty of keg beer. That might be why she chose not to press charges against him. Fearing the lie she told to her parents about where she been. That part you probably can't clown him for. Deadbeat, clown on.
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MelodyCool
Comment: McNasty ----->The things the black community have become accepting of and the excuses we continue to make for bad behavior have gotten us almost in ruins.<------- It's mind blowing that anyone sane would condone "CRIMES" such as these. Talk about morally bankrupt.
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queeniebunz
Comment: This is how my thinking works...First of all, I think the parents should get pimp-slapped for letting their 13 yr old CHILD be free and unsupervised enough to even have a 20 yr old boyfriend/f*ck buddy. Secondly, I wonder what she looked like - was she overly developed to the point where he could've really thought she was older? But then I think about talking to my 13-yr old niece and IMMEDIATELY you can tell she's a youngun because her conversation is that of a child, pretty much. Aside from that, unless she majored in cutting classes, she would've had to be on a school schedule - "I'll call you when I get out of school" or something like that. There were no cell phones for the masses back then so it would have to be on a pay phone (remember those?!) or a home number to make contact. And even then, if he was her boyfriend, wouldn't her folks have thought he was too old to date her if he ever was at the house? If he was in college and she was in freakin' junior high, her parents had to know she was too young to date a college boy. So again, it falls back on the parents in my opinion. But the last thing I'll say is this - he knocked her up while in college. When I was in college $500 a month was a lot of money and he's older than me so it had to be exorbitant to him. $500 back then was a lot of money compared to now. I say that to say that in college it's a lot. Once he hit the NBA the amount should've been adjusted, if it wasn't. And, yeah, there should've been some consequences for what he did but if the parents didn't make a fuss, that's probably why there were no charges. Money talks, folks...
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whynotme
Comment: --->Grace what you proposed could have happened but he could have also just been screwing a 13 year old too with no collegiate party involved at all.
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MelodyCool
Comment: Those talking about the girl lying about her age should consider Karl knew all alone...which is what fed his sick perversion. At 20 I'm sure he could discern a "child's" age. Did Mary Kay LeTourneau know her young victim's age. It's scary how people just to justify and place a "spin" on such heinous acts.
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k4phillip
Comment: How was Karl Marlone able to go on and have a NBA career? I just can not understand this man, how does a man have sex with a 12/13 year old. I feel the system failed the mother because although Marlone never had sex with any other children that we know of he should have paid for this one in jailed for such an act. I am glad this child have became a success story but what about the children that this is happening to and there is no success story from it. I am still in awh of this story I just not believe this man was able to live his life after deciding that it was okay to have sex with a child and then getting her pregnant. Its Sickening to me. I have daughters and my passion is for the mother who was really a victim.
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Southernbelle
Comment: Okay, as sick as it sounds, maybe he didn't know her true age. Eventually, he found out. So instead of this arrogant mofo doing everything in his power to appease this family and HIS son. What does he do? disown him. Tell him "it's too late for me to be your dad, do your own thing" WTF. All of this while he knows that that girl was a minor when he impregnanted her. I'm glad he was finally put on blast. Now I hope the NBA and any future endorsement deals run far away from him. As a matter of fact, the local DA needs to investigate this matter.
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yunvme
Comment: what about that young guy in Atlanta who was in jail cause a young white girl gave him head? I'm a little fuzzy now on the specifics of that one. But wasn't he like 18/19 and she was only 16. Wasn't there an uproar because we felt he didnt deserve to be charged and sent to jail? They were only like 4 years apart. well Karl and this young girl weren't that much different in age either.
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amethyst
Comment: SmoothP - I feel you. My father was always in my life but didn't provide regular financial support (very important in raising children). I've been blessed to make good decisions, get an education and become a productive, drug-free, crime-free adult. What would grate my nerves was when my father would boast to someone about my accomplishments. That ticked me off, because people will as-sume that he was due some credit for my achievements - NOT!! Like you and Demetrius Bell, not having that support propelled me to excel, to show "I didn't need you anyway." Praise God we worked through some difficult times and now have a great relationship. It improved tremendously once he admitted to and apologized for not being/doing what he should have.
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whynotme
Comment: -->MelodyCool we live in a society where personal responsibility is a thing of the past so the first thing people do is try to reason why someone is not personally responsible for something.
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sdedee
Comment: Capricorn_queen and Grace 12_34, I'm with you. No one is saying sleeping with children is ever right but the fact remains some of you guys response gives the impression that you have been hanging out with Rip Vanwinkle. Have you ever heard of Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, YOUR neigbor, that "fast gurl" down the street!!!!! Its not JUST the black community, its humans!!! It is not right celebs are not exempt !!! and neither is ya "cousin Rudy". And as far as listening to Kells,Mike music, watching whoever play ball and all that other stuff is not condoning, watching child porn video because a celeb is in it- perverted. Lets be honest. Most of these celebs are probably doing one thing or another that we dont approve of so pick ya poison and ya battles well and with care. the preceeding is IMMFO!!!
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Southernbelle
Comment: @ whynotme (to add)......until their son or daughter that falls victim to the person. That's why we have laws in this country to hold sickos accountable for their actions. What Karl did is against the law and he should stand before judgement. Nuff said. For me, I'm volunteering for jury duty once this case comes to trial.
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realuvbaby
Comment: See? I told ya that R Kelly was not the only poster child for pedophilia. this is rampant in our community particularly, and in humanity, generally. So, if we are going after R [video or no video] then call them all out!!!
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amethyst
Comment: yunvme - I live in ATL and the Genarlow Wilson case was NOTHING like this. He was 17 and she was 15. They were peers, and might have attended the same high school (I don't remember). She lied to her mother about where she was going, and went to a New Year's Eve party at a hotel. She and her mother always stated that she CONSENTED/OFFERED to give him oral sex, and they never asked for Genarlow to be prosecuted. The DA went on a personal mission to try the case (a la Duke lacrosse team). The only reason he had grounds to do so was because when our legislators changed state law to make intercourse between kids of this age a misdemeanor, they didn't think to specifically list oral sex. The legislator who sponsored the bill got it amended the next year, but Genarlow's case was already in effect and there wasn't a grandfather clause. That legislator and jurors also petitioned on Genarlow's behalf. Common sense tells a reasonable person that it made no sense for him to get a 10-year sentence for RECEIVING volunteered oral sex, but if he would have had intercourse with her it would have been a misdemeanor. He did not prey upon the girl at all.
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queeniebunz
Comment: Regarding "baby daddies" taking responsibility - well, I've seen it more often than not that the mother of the guy hates the baby mama or thinks she's a slut/gold digger/etc. and therefore will be the first to protect her son and say "Are you sure the baby's yours? She's kinda loose!" My best friend growing up had that happen to her. Her baby daddy swore up and down to her he'd help but his ma pulled him back and she got nothing until she sued for support. And he refused to acknowledge the boy until one day he woke up and said "I want to be a daddy to him" and she had to figure out how to tell her boy his deadbeat azzed "bio dad" was his real father and not her husband. Ugly situation and it all started w/mama telling the boy to deny paternity...go mamas! Not! Y'all seem to forget how protective mothers are of their sons. The same mother who will tell a boy to deny, deny, deny will pimp slap her daughter and call her a ho for getting knocked up. But that's just been my observation...
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MelodyCool
Comment: arkansasgirl, if his wife is black she doesn't "appear" to be. ------> http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nba/_photos/2004-06-02- kay-malone.jpg <---- They are afraid of having children who look black like they are.
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yunvme
Comment: for all the differences listed, you dont see ANY similarities?
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MelodyCool
Comment: Here's another one of his wife: ----> http://www.claiborneone.org/gj/g/2006-02-02-malone.jpg <---- Folks from Louisiana are extremely caught up on color. That's why he wouldn't accept his black kids until they made something of themselvesl. Karl should be ostracized from here on out!
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amethyst
Comment: queeniebunz - Yes, parents are overall responsible and accountable for their children. However, speaking from experience, parents cannot police and monitor their kids 24 hours per day. Maybe some of you never did anything you knew was wrong, but I did. Although you risked getting in trouble or catching a beat down from your parents, the lure of the action was more powerful. That's normal for children. When you add raging hormones to the equation, it can get even worse. Again, I don't know the circumstances surrounding Karl and the girl, so I won't judge her, her parents or Karl. There are several possible scenarios which could assign blame to any or all of them.
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javone77
Comment: My only question is where were her parents? If my 13 yr old comes home pregnant PLEASE believe that I am going to get some answers...and if I find out's he's 20....I'll be getting me a jail cell and he'll be in the one right next to mine!
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queeniebunz
Comment: >amethyst - that's the most costly blowjob I've ever heard of, well, aside from the one Spitzer probably got and the one Clinton definitely got...now that I think about it, maybe Gencarlow's wasn't the most costly but now we know oral sex is dangerous to a man. DAYUM!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: interesting, very intereting that today's (5/8) USAToday.com has an article about the arrest of a 37-year-old man who impregnated a 10-year-old girl . . . . . the hook in the USAToday article is that these people are illegals
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HersheysKiss
Comment: HEY M C NASTY (it's CBG) I digress. Continue.
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MelodyCool
Comment: whynotme, and you have people like "yunvme" talking about there wasn't much of an age difference between Karl (20 at the time) and a 12-13 yr old child. It seems like too many blacks do not place the same value on our lives as they do with others. You can't trust anybody these days. If I knew someone around me took issues like this very lightly...I would not associate with them.
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yunvme
Comment: I know when I was in high school I knew a couple of girls who dated 18/90/20 year olds. PLENTY of them. I even knew a girl who dated a married man who was in his 30's I think. My question to the ladies here, and be real honest. If you dated as a teen, what was the age of the oldest boyfriend you had. I dont know if "boyfriend" is a played out term or not, so what was the age of the oldest guy you "kicked it with"? Now I know that there is a diffence between dating, kicking it, and having actual sex. But it doesn't take much to go from one scenerio to the other.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >javone77 - you get your neighboring jail cells. I'm getting me a shovel to dispose of the body. If a 20 yr old man ever screws/impregnates my future 13 yr old child it would have to be done secretly and knowingly because I plan to have my child so busy she won't have time to do anything but go to school, study, go to her sport/dance/music/church activities. So if that were to happen, I'd hunt his azz down and take his azz out. But regarding keeping a girl busy - a busy daughter is a baby-free daughter. Studies show that a busy child is less likely to do drugs, have sex or generally cut up. Keep your babies busy, folks, if you aren't already!
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Taerae444
Comment: I am so tired of reading "maybe he didn't know she was 12/13"-whatever that is a bunch of bullshyt. And it's also beside the point. He impregnated this child and left her to fend for herself and his seed. He's a sorry a@@ dude and a pervert. Stop making excuses for him because he's THE Karl Malone. If it was the guy down the street, you would still be talking about hoe trifling he is. I'm just glad Demetrius and the other unwanted children are doing well for themselves.
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amethyst
Comment: MelodyCool - I agree with you that no one should get a free pass when they do jacked-up stuff. Their status, money, power, family name, or attractiveness should not excuse their behavior. /yunvme - Are you referring to similarities between Karl Malone's and Genarlow Wilson's situations? If so, IMO there are ABSOLUTELY NO comparisons. There isn't anything criminal about a 15- and 17-year-old having consensual sex, whether it's intercourse or oral sex. It may not be moral or prudent, but it shouldn't be illegal. They are breaking the law by drinking alcohol and doing drugs, which impairs their immature judgment even more. A 15- and 17-year-old are PEERS: they might ride the same school bus, have classes together, play on the same sports team, eat lunch together, attend the same parties, have mutual friends. I doubt that Karl at 19 or 20 ran in the same social circles as a 13-year-old; he was on a college campus, she was living at home still wearing ponytails.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >yunvme - You're right. I had friends who dated college guys at Howard, etc. As for me, I dated high school boys. My first boyfriend - I was a 13 yr old freshman and he was a 17 yr old senior. And guess what? My ma wouldn't let me go out w/o her chaperoning! But I also dumped him after 2 months because I was afraid he was gonna pull that "if you love me, you'll let me" bad afterschool special sh*t and I knew I wasn't ready for sex at 13. Funny thing - I found out later when I was a senior, that my friends azzumed I had sex w/him BECAUSE he was a senior! LOL! They didn't treat me like they thought I had sex that early, though so I guess that was cool. So, you are right. Young ladies do date older and tend to brag about it. "I pulled a college dude" and all that...
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yunvme
Comment: I thouhgt Genarlow Wilson was 18. So I concede on that point. But that raises another question. If he were ONE YEAR older and was charged with rape- would the community have understood? Would the charge then have been justifiable?
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Gurlfrand
Comment: How sad and sick this guy is - >yunvme - I don't believe that he thought she was 16 - a 19 or 20 year old man 20 years ago or today know when he getting with a 12 year old child and a 16 year old girl - I don't believe that for a second - he should have been arrested at the time - who knows why that didn't happen.
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yunvme
Comment: before we go on any further, I must point out that I stated in my first post that I DONT condone it. So spare me. I'm engaging in convo and trying to get some of you to look at things from all sides.
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MelodyCool
Comment: This 75 yr old impregnated a 10 yr old, but I guess some will say she lied about her age too: http://www.rense.com/general24/policecharge75.htm
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MelodyCool
Comment: HarrisThomas, will you post link to your story. I can't find it on site. Thanks.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >amethyst - I thought the girl in the case claimed it wasn't consensual. Or was that that other guy who had sex in a trailer w/a white girl down there? Black mothers need to tell their sons to leave them lil white girls alone, or at least til they're grown men. Historically a white girl will bang a black man and when it's considered to be a bad thing to her family/community she cries "rape!"...they need to leave they lil pale azzes alone for self preservation. No blow job is worth even a day in jail. I don't care if the girl could suck the lead off a pipe, that sh*t ain't worth it...
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javone77
Comment: Queenie: Girl Imma do some double jeopardy type junk on that fool. I will roll up to his house, pop a cap in his azz and then call the po po. LOL
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MelodyCool
Comment: Taerae,-----> "I am so tired of reading "maybe he didn't know she was 12/13"-whatever that is a bunch of bullshyt. And it's also beside the point." <----- Preach! It also proves they devalue black life. Get these people the he11 away from me!
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musbdherbs
Comment: REALITY CHECK REALITY CHECK! The idea of a college age man dating a high school or evenjunior high school age girl is not a new phenom. I knew several lil whores in junior high who dated 12th graders. Here we go again protesting shock about something all too familiar. It is very possible that he didn't know the girls age. That doesn't absolve him from his responsibility but it surely doesn't mean he knew. I had sex w/my grown azz teacher when I was had just turned 16. I wasn't raped. This happened in 1982/3 and we're wondering why we haven't heard about it. Well WTF should we? Moreover, the family knew the deal as well as the child. It's stupid, invasive and disrespectful for ANYONE in the media to bring attention to a 24 year old story. Imagine the son or his mom waking up to this bullshyt. Certain shyt we just don't need to know and this is one.
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McNasty
Comment: MelodyCool we've come to where its either or but it's still an excuse. Across the board pedophiles (even accidental ones) need to at least be outted. The sin and the shame of this story is this man has ignored what I believe to be several kids that he sired and his face and errythang should be plastered on a billboard somewhere. Fukkin' creep!
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yunvme
Comment: Wuz your teacher white?
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McNasty
Comment: No it's not just the black community - there are millions in the white community too but I'm black and try not to concern myself too much with them when we have our own shat to deal with. There was a time where this stuff was so rare you never heard about it. Of course in the southern states for a long time and still an old fart could/can legally marry a 14 year old.
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TesticAl
Comment: Karl has that baseball mentality. If there's grass on the field...PLAY BALL!
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Taerae444
Comment: Amen, McNasty! And just because this isn't the first or the last we've heard this doesn't make it right!
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yunvme
Comment: McNasty I have to disagree with your statement that "There was a time where this stuff was so rare you never heard about it." In reality it was so COMMON that there was no need to talk about it. Sometimes people really baffle me. This is not new. Back in the day- 14/15 year olds got pregnant and some married. Some of yall right now have a grandmother, aunt, great aunt that had a baby when she was a young teen.
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BigSexy
Comment: I use to feel sorry for him because he was never able to get a championship under his belt. Now I know why the good Lord never allowed that to happen! What a perv. He's a dead beat dad! He is a pedi! Just like R. Kelly. I have total disgust for him now.
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mocha
Comment: When I was 14 I met a guy who was 19. I lied and told him I was 16 even though I didn't look it, feel it... He showed up at my house after we met and my mother dismissed him at the door. The facial hair was enough for her. She and my stepfather were very protective about who I spent time with. As for me, I have 12 & 13 yo daughters and any 20 year old man who would try to even approach them, curves and all aside, would be knowingly committing a crime. But maybe Karl Malone is and was just a sick pervert. Just because people are famous or talented does not exclude them from possibly being crazy.
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MelodyCool
Comment: McNasty, I've despised Karl ever since I read that long article about his treatment of Cheryl and her brother. It was so sad how the whole thing went down. Their mother drove a school bus and worked as a janitor to provide for them and never asked Karl for a dime. When he heard how well Cheryl was doing and wanted to meet her he went to Cheryl's grandmother to make contact. He had the nerve to tell the grandmother he didn't want to see or have anything to do with Cheryl's mother...he just wanted to see the twins. He ain't nothing!!!!! It galled him to give the mother of his children any credit although he dated her throughout high school. This is why I say it's very easy for black men to feel they are superior to black women. But Karl is an extreme case. I don't see how he could sleep at night or enjoy himself knowing what he left in his past.
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SmoothP
Comment: I feel you Amethyst. My father hasn't even apologized for it. I finally brought it to his attention because after 38 years of my life, I decided that I hadn't let it go. Although I love him and I believe he loves me, that's just not good enough. He said that we were going to talk about it. Even still, my mother always encouraged us to be there for him if he ever called upon us, and she never allowed us to disrespect him. The killing part to me is that although they were separated, he didn't even come to support us at her homegoing service. It's hard to let go.
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RealGAPeach
Comment: My ex-did the same thing. He was 21 and got a 13 year old pregnant. Her momma was cool with it. She wanted him to marry the girl. He never had a relationship with the daughter after that. She hates him now. Just writing this makes me feels such an idiot. I later married the fool
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amethyst
Comment: queenie - You might be thinking of the Marcus Dixon case, in Rome, GA. It happened a few years before Genarlow's case. In that case the girl was white, and accused him of rape, although others say it was consensual. His conviction was overturned. He has played football at Hampton and is trying to enter the NFL. Here is a news story. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-marcus-dixon- 080427-ht,1,603657.story
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Melodycool - It sounds to me like the mother of the twins is a little slow. As soon as she saw that NBA money coming in, she should've had her azz in family court demanding child support. Driving buses, etc. - yeah, okay, that's admirable but those children deserved to live in the same conditions their siblings enjoyed and it was up to her to make that happen thru the court system. I know if some duded knocked me up and I was poor as a church mouse and he was living in a freakin' mansion, I'd make sure his twins lived like him if I had to drop they lil azzes on his doorstep and say, "Make sure they each have a lovely room upstairs!" I'd pull a "Parent Trap" on his azz and tell my lil darlin's to terrorize his azz til he gives them what they deserve financially!
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Smokie1
Comment: We reap what we so people. Malone does not know who will have to take care of him in his old age and the das part about this is this young man had to grow up watching his sperm donor on the tv reaping the benefits that his success had garnered him. The good thing about this is, this young man now gets to treat his mother and maker her life better and he will be ever the more blessed for it.
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javone77
Comment: queenie: LOL that's how old girl did Ike Turner in the movie. She rolled up and dropped them kids off and drove the hell off! LOL
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amethyst
Comment: queenie - You're right that keeping kids busy reduces the likelihood they will do drugs, have sex, etc. Still, nothing is guaranteed. We are all human and make mistakes. /yunvme - My friends and I mostly dated guys in our peer group, up to about 3 years older. There were times when we tried to talk to guys who were 5+ years older. Sometimes we succeeded. It believe it is incumbent upon parents today to educate their sons about exercising self-discipline and self-control. Following your hormones can get you in a lot of trouble. When they realize that a girl is younger than she looks or says (check out her conversation, ask to see her driver's license), run away with a quickness. Ain't no tail worth going to jail. Marcus' and Genarlow's cases also demonstrate that parents and children need to know the laws of our respective states. Neither Genarlow, the girl, or their parents had a clue that her GIVING him oral sex would lead to a felony conviction.
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amethyst
Comment: SmoothP - One of the hardest things to do is to forgive someone who doesn't ask for forgiveness. I don't know your spirituality or religious beliefs, but I hope you will be blessed to have peace about your father, whether he ever talks with you. I am a Christian, and I believe God will deal with him. Like Smokie just said, we reap what we sow.
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amethyst
Comment: yunvme - My grandmother got married at 14, and my aunt was born 7 months later. When you do the math...was it a shotgun wedding? /queenie - My mother didn't sue for child support. She struggled to raise me and I was mad that she didn't ask him for money. Her position was "I shouldn't have to take time off my job to have a white man (i.e. the judge) to tell this negro he needs to support his child." Once I became an adult, I respected her decision, although I don't agree with it. If the dough was plentiful in our house, I could have accepted that, but we struggled. And of course, his other family lived better than I did. I'm with you: all your children better have the same standard of living, or ain't nobody getting any peace.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: OFF TOPIC BUT NEWSWORTHY: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/ . . . . . May 8, 2008 Clinton touts support from 'white Americans' Posted: 12:03 PM ET Clinton campaigned in Washington Thursday. (CNN) — In what appear to be the New York senator's most blunt comments to date regarding a racial division in the Democratic presidential race, Hillary Clinton suggested Wednesday that "White Americans" are increasingly turning away from Barack Obama’s candidacy. "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," Clinton said in an interview with USA TODAY. Clinton cited an Associated Press poll "that found how Senator Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me." "There's a pattern emerging here," she said. Exit polls from Tuesday's primaries in Indiana and North Carolina show Clinton won about 60 percent of the white vote in both states. That percentage is down from the Ohio primary on March 4, in which Clinton won upwards of 65 percent of the white vote. Meanwhile, Clinton garnered 63 percent of the white vote in Pennsylvania on April 22. Speaking with the paper, Clinton rejected the notion her comments were racially divisive in any way. "These are the people you have to win if you're a Democrat in sufficient numbers to actually win the election," she said. "Everybody knows that." Obama spokesman Bill Burton called Clinton's statements "not true and frankly disappointing."
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MelodyCool
Comment: SmoothP, it's awfully hard to understand why someone would behave like your dad. Sorry to read about your personal pain, but it makes you wonder how your dad justified the treatment of your mom and his offspring including yourself. Not even honoring her during the homegoing ceremony is unforgivable. It would be hard for me to let go under the "entire" circumstances.
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CaliGyrl
Comment: Arkansasgirl......Karl Malone's wife is NOT Black. She's other, not White, but something other than Black. Look at his 4 kids with her, they're all mixed up. She was Miss Utah back in the day I think.
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Gurlfrand
Comment: TA you are a fool!!!
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MelodyCool
Comment: Smokie1, that child mother raised a phenomenal son. Bless them both.
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MsVanese
Comment: personally, after all these years, i wouldn't want folks to know he was my father. the only reason they put it in the news anyway was because the was a top draft pick. if had been anything but, we probably would never have known. JMO
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SmoothP
Comment: Thanks Amethyst and Melody...Actually, all of it subsides whenever I see him. It's just been hard lately. I talk to his fiance more than I do him. She's trying to mediate the entire situation, but there's really nothing that she can do. My other siblings have pretty much moved on. Well, at least he tried to make the services but got lost, but he could have at least met up with us later or the next day, next month, next year. I know that I must forgive him because that's what God requires, but it's hard. My brothers and I are all doing well. His other kids are doing not so well, but he comes to their aid whenever they need him. I wish him the best though. I wish I could start some type of organization for fatherless kids.
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SmoothP
Comment: This is similar to the storyline in the Meet the Browns movie. LOL. Don't start trashing the film, but it's true!
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javone77
Comment: Harris: that heffa needs her head bashed in with a hammer. How the hell are you gonna say that those comments are not racially divided? This heffa is gonna keep on and she is not gonna be able to get a job washing dishes. she'll be the most hated woman in america. smh
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sdedee
Comment: Yep, yunvme, I dated older guys while in highschool. I was a senior and he was 26 (the oldest). No, I'm not a ho. I am a college grad with no children and 8 soon to be 9 nieces and nephews. I have a great career and doing grad work.
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PRDC
Comment: MelodyCool ---his wife is a light skin sister, not white. Who's business is this...I'm sure she has a mother and father, evidently she most have told them it was someone elses. So until we really hear the whole story, we don't know nothing....just spectulations.....
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DrKnowItAll
Comment: This behavior is not uncommon in the south. My mother, born in Indiana, told me stories of her being molested and raped by members of her own immediate family. Her family relocated to Georgia where this thing was more prevalent and worse than what she went through. It was expected of young girls to be with men. It was expected of them to be quiet about it. Not defending Karl here. Just saying this was a way of life in certain parts of the country. My mother to this day can't watch "Color Purple" without breaking down because it hits so close to home and almost replicates her experience. The sexual abuse, especially in African American families, was an undocumented epidemic for many years.
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CaliGyrl
Comment: SmoothP......I just saw a clip on YouTube last night from an angry Black pastor who called out Black men for not marrying and/or raising their kids. His intent of the message may have gotten lost with his trashing of Obama in the same sermon, but he was on point when he said 70% of Black men don't marry the women they inpregnate. He said if you take 1000 Black children and put them in a room, 700 would have been raised by a single mother. THAT WAS SAD ON SOOO MANY LEVELS. He said he wondered how many Black men who support Obama and claim they want change are NOT paying child support but have the nerve to contribute to his campaign.
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khufu
Comment: damn..this is another damn shame
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Rhome
Comment: One of you may have mentioned this but i don't have time to read through all of these comments..BUT... when he was with the Lakers didn't he make a comment to Vanessa Bryant, something to the effect of "hunting for little mexican girls", and Kobe cussed his azz out for it?
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HersheysKiss
Comment: In response to HarrisT post and J77... WHEN OBAMA wins the nomination I hope he is not forced to select her as a running mate particularly given her lack of character and her demonstrated inferiority. J77....Silliness Clinton may eventually be hated, but never unemployed. TRUST!
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javone77
Comment: hershey's: I'm sure she won't be unemployed but her political career will be DONE.
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BigSexy
Comment: I believe his wife, Kay Malone, is Philipino and Black. Her dad was in the Air Force and met her mom while stationed there. You know how it is...
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arkansasgirl
Comment: MelodyCool, she's black just real real lightskin. Karl's mother lived in El Dorado, Arkansas(which is not that far from the Louisiana border) for years before she died. Karl still spends alot of time in El Dorado and has alot of farm land there. I have a friend from El Dorado whose uncle use to work on Karl's land. He's mention how light bright his wife looks.
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MelodyCool
Comment: CaliGyrl, that minister is spot on. The lack of feelings for their own children is heartrending.
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arkansasgirl
Comment: CaliGyrl, you might be right. I just checked. She was Miss Idaho.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: J77 and HK, a host of white dems are letting hillarious hi-jack the party . . . . HRC is going into West Virginia and Kentucky with the whitey message so that she can get a crushing defeat of BHO and use it to prove her electability: if the dems allow her to follow through, the dems are done
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javone77
Comment: Harris: you are beyond right! That's the main reason she is talking crazy like. She's going in there with the card carrying rednecks and wants to seem like one of them. Those superdelegates have got to move NOW!!! That sink is going down faster than the titanic. She can't even just bow out with any class. smh
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Taurusingr
Comment: HersheysKiss:...If Obama IS forced to select Sillary's lying %*$!!???? I REEEEEEAAALLLY would look out for a MAJOR chance of him being...."taken out"!!! Plus...to me, this would be a MAJOR sign of the Democratic party being so damn "fickled" & UNtrustworthy!! & could give the Republicans ALL KNID OF SUPPORT!! Besides....... I mean, after all this mudslinging (FROM HER!!) He's supposed to just...run outside & PLAY with THIS BYTCH!!??? Haaaaaaaiil Naaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!
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Southernbelle
Comment: Sorry to hear about your mom DrKnowitall, but that kind of thing is NOT common in the south. I've been here for all of my 37+ years and never knew of anyone that condoned sex with minors. As a matter of fact, LA is the only state in the union that will sentence you to death for doing so.
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javone77
Comment: You not speaking to a sista Taurus? LOL
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CaliGyrl
Comment: From the Miss Idaho Website: Kay Kinsey, MISS IDAHO USA 1988 married "The Mailman" in 1991. Kay and Karl Malone, a.k.a. "The Mailman" of the Utah Jazz NBA team, are currently involved with the MISS UTAH USA Pageant, and numerous charities....Now I don't know too many Blacks that live in Idaho especially with the name Kay, who would've won Miss Idaho back in 1988. Some sites say she's Filipino, not mentioning her Black side at all, but that would explain her (light skin Black look), but their kids are the dead give away.
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Taurusingr
Comment: javonne77:....Now what's make you think that!?? sml!! But I do like to.... ummmm..."respect" (what's up Huey!!) LOL!!! BTW...I'm having some problems with my MAC...That's why I haven't.....you know!! Now let's stop her b4 somebody says sumthin,offers a couch or etc... LOL!!!! I gotta bounce anyway!! Yall have a good one & I'll try to get back soon!! Sounds like another good one today!! sml!!! Peace!!
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Winn30344
Comment: Wow Smooth P..I don't know how you deal with your father but I commend you for being a Christian and trying to do what you think your mother wants you to do; sounds like she was a very forgiving woman. I'm not sure I could forgive him. As someone stated b4..these absentee fathers and mothers are going to regret their decisions later on.
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kwrob
Comment: The Mailman not being around in these kids' lives probably helped them get to the pros. They probably would have felt a lot of pressure had he been around.
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SewRite
Comment: He and R. Kelly are cut from the same perverted cloth!!!
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DrKnowItAll
Comment: Southernbelle, you're only a few years older than me. My mother was born in 1949. She grew up in a different "south" than you and I did. I believe her and many others with her similar story when they tell me that type behavior was very common back then. Young girls were expected to be with men, "married off" etc... It's great that you didn't have to go through it but many were not so lucky.
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whynotme
Comment: murder has been going on since the beginning of time so why should we say anything about it....it's not going to stop so we should just let it go and move on.....sounds stupid doesn't it, about as stupid as some of these posters trying to justify f*cking a child!
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javone77
Comment: LOL got ya taurus lol and I am with you about stopping the insanity lol
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amethyst
Comment: SmoothP - I've seen that irony before: the kids that the parent doesn't take care of excel, and the other ones are full of drama. I tell ya, God deals with folks and requires you to reap what you sow.
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amethyst
Comment: I just clicked on this article that's on the lower right hand side of EUR pages. I'm going to write the Democratic National Committee and express my disgust if the Michigan and Florida delegates are admitted. Rules are rules, and those states chose not to follow them. If Hillary were not behind, this would never have come up. I plead with anyone who opposes this to write the DNC and Democratic legislators from your states. http://www0.eurweb.com/Marticle.cfm?articleId=22743579 &channelId=2855&buyerId=eurweb&buid=4696
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DOne
Comment: Karl was foul for not stepped up to the plate and being a father, however, the story doesn't provide enough information for me to consider him a perv because as a father of a 14yo who is currently on lockdown for having a myspace page in which she listed her age as 18, I need details before I can conclude that he is anything more than a deadbeat dad.
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DrKnowItAll
Comment: amethyst, even if the Michigan and Florida delegates are placed, Hillary still wouldn't be close enough to challenge. She's fighting a lost cause. Justice would be to split the delegates from both states evenly. There is no other solution. Hillary is really hoping for a vote in Florida where she thinks she could close the gap on Obama's popular vote lead, which would then further her argument that she's a viable candidate and superdelegates should go with her. Hillary making false victory claims (in Florida) is another ploy for her to save face after being blindsided by America's desire to change political direction and have a NEW face and family enter the history books. She needs to do the right thing, get over herself, and help BO make history.
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Name:
OSUN
Comment: Karl Malone is trash.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >DOne - kudos for the lockdown! I didn't catch that the first time. Is the page up in smoke? It's amazing what young girls do. They try to deal with grown men and get in over their heads because they don't have the life experience or the maturity to handle a grown-azz man. And, the men who prey on a girl like your daughter want them young and inexperience/silly because they don't want to handle a woman they can't manipulate and control. That's the part about young girls who think they can handle men don't get. If a grown-azz man wants you, an underaged girl, he ain't sh*t as a man or he'd be with a grown woman. That's what I used to try and instill in my students. That's what I knew myself even at that age.
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DOne
Comment: >DrknowitAll, its sad to hear about your mother, however, incest is not indicative of any particular region or group. Its more a function or dysfuction of the family(s)involved. Having grown up in La also, I never heard search stories, however, in the case of my mother's family, the women tended to marry very young, not because they were being married off, but to escape a strict up bringing. My mother married the first time at age 16 to a 18yo. She says she did it in order to escape my grandmother's house; most of her sisters did the same.
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Kyenn
Comment: This is bad all the way around!!! I know there are some well developed f%*$ teenagers out there. The fact is she is still a little girl. She can't vote, drive, or get a job at that age. I don't understand why the grandmother did not press charges. Or maybe she was under pressure to keep quiet. To much power to fight. Even I didn't press charges, I would have hit him up for some support. I commend the son for moving on with his life. I wish him the best.
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amethyst
Comment: DrKnowItAll - You're right that Hillary still won't be ahead. It's the principle that's important to me: don't change the rules in midstream because you're losing. I'm ticked off that the DNC is even discussing Michigan and Florida. All the candidates signed papers stating they understood those states were violating the rules and would not campaign there. So there shouldn't be any discussion going on. What is Hillary's (and others') rationale for reconsidering these states? She didn't say anything about it until she realized that she was not going to run with the nomination. Once you start the game, you play by the established rules.
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DOne
Comment: Thanks queenie; she lost all internet rights unless is for homework then she as to come to me and I will watch her do the search or whatever. She's is dropped off and picked up from school where as before she would catch the bus. The thing is while she's lying about being 18 she's probably chatting with a 12yo boy who also lying about being 18, but I tell its a challage because you don't want your child to be technologically handicapped, yet its hard to monitor everything they do unless you are standing over them 24/7.
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amethyst
Comment: SmoothP - Your idea to mentor fatherless kids is a good one. Maybe you can move forward with it. There are some young people who could benefit from a group like that.
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amethyst
Comment: Good for you, DOne. It's good to know some parents are accountable for their children and want to guide them in the right direction. Some time ago Michael Baisden's show talked about MySpace pages and other internet sites and parents were calling in saying they monitor their chidren's sites and email accounts. Like queenie said, it's the adult's job to protect children from their own immaturity and inexperience. Father/mother knows best and better than the teenager. When my sister was about 15 she met a guy around 19 who was in the military (there's a base in the town where they live). My dad met him at the door and cursed him out. He told him "What could a GROWN man, traveling the world, possibly want from a 15-year-old girl but one thing?" He told my sister that's all the guy wanted. He was never heard from again. One of my sister's friends had a habit of crawling out of her window at night to meet a guy. Even after her parents busted her one night and her mom beat the brakes off her, she kept sneaking out. I'm not sure what they did in the end, but if it would have been my mother she would have been homeless.
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Southernbelle
Comment: DOne, agreed. My mom, who'll be 60 this year, married at 19 b/c that's what most women her age were doing at that time. She didn't have the resources to go to college so she got married. To say sexing minors was widely accepting in La is not accurate. I don't know what was happening across the entire south but even my grandmother married and had kids after she turned 18.
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DrKnowItAll
Comment: DOne, child abuse is child abuse. I'm not claiming incest is rampant. If I didn't clarify, I meant that young girls being with grown men was very common in the south.. Still is in small towns. Denying that would be just that, denial. Incest is a different story. That just happens to be my mother's story. Whether they left home or not, a minor is a minor. But with that being said, if young girls did leave home and marry to escape whatever, IT WAS ACCEPTED...
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Name:
amethyst
Comment: My aunts married young, more than likely to get away from my mean grandfather.
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Name:
blackdiamondleo
Comment: Thank GOD for his family. Without the foundation, he could've turned out for the worse. The family could've not been sophisticated enough to know what their options were at that time. But the main thing he needed, they gave.
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leeneepoo
Comment: Amethyst, I'm not certain of the other children, but ya' girl can play some B-ball.....
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DOne
Comment: >DrknowltAll, 60 years ago women generally married young and often before or right out of high school in all parts of the country, especially at the lower income levels. Generally, you will find age of marriage directly correlated with the amount of opportunites available which is why people in small towns tend to marry younger than those in larger cities. Most of the some attributes that people associate with small towns in the south, can also be found in small towns in the midwest, on the eastcoast, etc. Its just that most blacks have only experienced small towns in the south because we tended to migrate from small southern towns to large cities up north or out west. So my point isn't that it wasn't accepted in the South, only that its not a Southern only phemon.
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CaliGyrl
Comment: DrKnowItAll.....I agree. IT IS MORE PREVALENT down there because the justice system could care less about little Black girls and a lot of people accept this type of behavior or blame it on the so called "fast tale" girls. My family is from LA and those grown men down there are always messing with young girls. Those girls are cornbread fed in the south so their bodies mature quickly making the problem worse. You have daughters messing with their mother's and aunts boyfriends, it's just sickening. I knew a guy who's father (had to be around 35 or 40) started messing with his now wife @ 15 yrs old and told me her mother basically pimped her out by having his dad give them money and bring food and stuff over.....WTF?? He said it messed him up in the head because they were around the same age and he knew it wasn't right, but he still loved his dad.
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g888
Comment: The Genarlow Wilson case to make a slight correction was a case where the mother did seek prosecution she said that she didn't realize it carried 10yrs and became reluctant to pursue a conviction,she was told by the DA that if she didn't she could get into trouble according to her the DA denied that,this DA also did not tell the jury about the sentencing guidelines and is known to dispense justice far from equally,the law that Genarlow was convicted under would and still can send you to prison with anyone under 16, no matter what type of sex it is,but it is now a misdemeanor,one flaw with that same law is if two under 16 people have a sexual encounter and the law gets involved who gets charged?
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reno112303
Comment: WOW...a DEADBEAT PEDOPHILE! My granny always said, "DON'T TELL ME WHAT A N!gigaga WON'T DO! Nasty business, and you didn't take care of your children. WOW. This is really amazing to me considering I was the product of a young woman and a married man 20 years her senior, who not only acknowledged me to the whole world, but took care of me, gave me his name, and told his wife of 20+ YEARS that she could GIT DA STEPPIN' if she didn't like it! WOW. NASTY BASTARD!
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Name:
reno112303
Comment: And, I want the next "person" that talks about "f%*$" girls and girls lying about their ages and consensual sex with 12 and 13 year olds to "holla" at me when THEIR 12 year old daughter, favorite niece, favorite first cousin's daughter is getting her brains screwed out and up by a grown %*$ man and tell me that they told her, "SIT DOWN WIT YOU F%*$ %*$," and didn't call Pookie and Jojo'nem to take care of his NASTY BEHIND. Because when MY mother and grandmother got wind of something like that going down with me back in the 70s, the DANG near grown man in question, got a visit from my grandmother with her pearl handle 38, and GUESS WHAT!!??...I WASN'T F%*$, but I wasn't discourgaging him either--didn't know better--still had a flat chest DAMMIT! You people defending this behavior must got some NASTY SHI+ IN YOUR SPIRITS BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE HOW ANYONE CAN SEE ANY RIGHT IN THIS KIND OF MESS!!
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Name:
reno112303
Comment: Let me clarify, I wasn't having sex, but it wasn't because that NASTY BASTARD wasn't trying. I found out (just a couple of years ago) that this same MAN (one of the neighborhood IT boys) who was hot on my nonexistent "tail" when I was just turning 12 and he was on his way to college on a b-ball scholarship, raped a MALE cousin in the basement of HIS father's church.
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