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fanteeking
Comment: OH, OH!! "a little desperation on the part of a WOMAN" I betcha this statement gonna raise some eyebrows even though he's a Clinton supporter, he's still a man, according to the Clitonites. Hillary is intent on destroying the democratic party if she's not nominated and I feel that they think they're ENTITLED to the White House. If we are bamboozled by the Clintoons and she gets the nod, jest count me out.
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MsBlake
Comment: Patterson just said what alot of people (her supporters included) are thinking, he just happen to be brave enough to say it. It baffles me when top folks from the Clinton campaign are all over the news talking about 'despite the odds against us we will win the nomination'. I'm thinking how??? They all need to stop smoking weed cos its making them sound crazy!
On a separate note it appears McCain is struggling to deal with his own pastor (Hagee & Parsley) problem like Obama.Right wing folks are not the only ones who can dig up dirt, Left wing folks have dug up a Hagee sermon from years back where he says stuff offensive to the Jews, coupled with other stuff offending gays, muslims and catholics, McCain is about to lose a whole bunch of voters. I'm curious to see whether Fox will play Hagee's offending remarks over and over like they did Wright. *rolling eyes*.
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TGen
Comment: I thought it was funny when I saw part of Lou Dobbs yesterday (stopped watching him regularly due to his obvious hatred for Obama) and Dobbs wrongfully stated Paterson was an Obama supporter "of course," lol. His anti-Obama venom shines through his every [mis]statement. I have no more respect for him at all. On Paterson, of course he's right, but I think this would go a lot further if he was White, hate to say that, but the Clintonites will just chalk this up to "well he's Black, so of course he'll be on Obama's side," this, regardless of his being a clear Clinton supporter. P.S. MsBlake, I heard McCain denounce the pastor endorsements he sought, and very tackily give a cheap shot to Obama in the process, lol. He is so pathetic. And as someone pointed out yesterday, his pastor problem is more alarming than Obama's because these pastors McCain went after was political, which means it could affect how he governs. Obama was with Wright for mostly religious reasons, totally separate realm.
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javone77
Comment: I have loved the comments so far. TGen: I did hate that cheap shot. the fact of the matter is, everyone has had a friend for upwards of 10 yrs that went another way and turned into something you didn't like. You didn't completely get rid of them, but distance was neccessary. But you are so right...if Mccain is so doggone smart like he claims he is....he should have known about that crazy mofo BEFORE he worked for a whole damn YEAR to get his endoresement!!!
Did anyone see Mcacin get his %*$ clowned on Ellen yesterday? ROFLMBAO
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MsBlake
Comment: Co-sign Tgen. I must say its kinda shocking whichever way one looks at it cos the word 'desperate', is well.......harsh! Folks in her camp can't be too happy with Patterson right now. This Hagee drama makes it difficult for Republicans to use Rev Wright against Obama. The score is now 1-1. All they've got really is ' but he sat there for 20 years and I didn't' yada yada yada.......
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MsBlake
Comment: Javone, Gay folks love dem some Ellen and if u pizz her off u pizz ALL of them off. lol I think Obama gained some new support after that awkward interview with Ellen.
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javone77
Comment: Msblake: you better act like you know! lol Gay people are one of those gropus that stick together because it literally is them against the world. and they KNOW that the first thing he is gonna do is ban gay marriage and that is NOT gonna work for him. Now they are sayign that OBama has a problem with jews. uhm he may have had a problem but because of process of elimination (see those teachign skills lol) Obama is your bet. "Hitler was doing God's work"? All I can give that is the blank stare with big eyes flashing LOL
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TGen
Comment: MsBlake, I gotta disagree. I don't think McCain lost any supporters after that Ellen interview because I doubt a large segment of the gay populace would be voting for him anyway! lol And I didn't see the interview, but from the clips I saw, I gather it was "awkward" because Ellen D made it that way. Personally, I think McCain handled it admirably, EllenD was trying to back him into a corner (as a lot of the gay mafia does) and he stood his ground, but did so respectfully. So I don't think McCain made any new enemies because of THAT specific interview...now all his other foolishness? That's a different story, lol
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DrKnowItAll
Comment: This whole Democratic race is becoming a major problem. If Obama picks Hillary, he loses credibility and has "the Clinton machine" looking over his shoulder, waiting for him to mess up and her have intimate knowledge of it if he does. If he doesn't choose her, the 2 best candidates in 16 years will have beaten each other out of the best American possible ticket in years. I personally believe Hillary is sabotaging this year's campaign so that she can make a run in 2012. Unfortunately for selfish azz, if she does that she will %*$! off the party elders and she won't have much support in 2012. I don't know who Obama can pick as his running mate that will shore up some of his deficiencies with the racists.. I hope Americans are smart enough not to vote for John McCain's 3 Billion a week for the next 4 years war, until victory is achieved that hasn't been achieved in the past 7 years... I HOPE we're smarter than that. I getting a headache behind this nonsense.
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TGen
Comment: DrKnowItAll: "the 2 best candidates in 16 years" I gotta disagree with you there. I think there have been a slew of more qualified candidates run for president, heck some of them ran just this year, lol
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DrKnowItAll
Comment: TGen, I haven't figured out yet what makes a person qualified to be president. We most often vote on likability, personality. What prepares you to be leader of the most prosperous and hated nation on earth? I don't know that being a governor, or senator, or lawyer prepares people for that job. I think a sense of peace, rationale and superior intelligence is all we can hope for. Most that get to the party nominee stage/process have only 1 of the 3 traits I just mentioned. Foreign policy, international business, local goverment experience are a bunch of adjectives that politicians think mean something to people when honestly most people have no idea what that means. Hillary and BO, as I described them, have the most energetic and ready to act voters behind them. Moreso than any other time in recent history. That's what I meant by 2 best candidates..
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DrKnowItAll
Comment: if you based it on experience or government experience, military knowledge then John McCain is the best candidate since the 60's...
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TGen
Comment: Well, I agree that BO has been responsible for the re-energizing of politics, I don't credit HC with this, I think her supporters are residuals from the BO excitement. But honestly, what I consider "qualified" is a solid track record. I think BO would be considered more qualified than HC because the one major thing he's been in charge of--his campaign--has excelled beyond measure. In HC's case, however, the major things she's been in charge of--Healthcare, her Iraq vote (maybe the most important issue in 50 years), and her campaign--she's failed at all miserably. So in my view, that, coupled with her proclivity to lie make me have very little confidence in her presidency. She has not proven herself. So I would not put her in the same category as BO or some others who've run.
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TGen
Comment: And no, years in office or military experience does not equal "qualify." Not only did John McCain vote for the Iraq war and continues to support it, he also failed to vote for (or even against) an important GI Bill that just passed. His unfortunated experience as a POW does not make him qualified to govern. He's failed on major issues, just like HRC. (His continued voting against the King holiday is another prime example.) Dude ain't the one...
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shulamite
Comment: Drknowitall, I think it will be Obama/Webb or Obama/Edwards. I think that will be a strong ticket.
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shulamite
Comment: To all: I think HRCis despicable to compare FL/MI to "Zimbabwe". What I don't understand about all this is WHY did FL/MI state legislatures vote to push up their primaries? Evidently MI tried this in 2004 and got shut down. They had to vote within the DNC time slot. But this time they pushed their way forward illegally. Why? KNowing that they are HUGE swing states, why woudl they purposely take themselves out of the primary?
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shulamite
Comment: Has anybody ever wondered if MI/FL did this knowing that it would cause issues down the road? Knowing that they could say trump a nomination process if it didn't happen to go their way? Were they in bed with HRC way back when?
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DrKnowItAll
Comment: I like Webb but he's said he's not interested in VP. Choosing Edwards would be a mistake. He, Edwards lost with Kerry already and they didn't even win Edwards' home state of NC.... The problem is I don't think there is anybody out there that can make Obama any stronger than he is by himself. Hillary is best option, unfortunately. I hate to think that Obama needs her after whippin her self righteous azz, but when the smoke clears I think she's the safest choice. I'm so confused. I hate the person I've learned Hillary to be after her true personality showed. Race baiting, gender baiting, playing victime...lying about dumb *sh.. ugh!!! It's disgusting. BUT, she is a strong candidate receiving alot of votes. It is what it is. Obama and HC will probably be on the same ticket.
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MsBlake
Comment: Lol@ Tgen, you're right, gay folks ain't voting republican anyway so it don't make a difference. lol As a straight woman who watches The L word, I've come to learn a bit about the gay community and they are anti-bush and Pro-clinton. Forget the working white class vote, the lesbian vote is what Obama is going to have trouble with. Its personal for them!!
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javone77
Comment: dr.....I don't know what makes a person qualified to run the country. all I know is that in 2004 americans felt george bush was the most qualified. excuse me if I don't put much stock in who people think is most qualified. lol
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javone77
Comment: Shulamite: what makes that whole 2004 thing with michigan so ironic is that the leader of the DNC at that time that shot Michigan down was Terry Mcauliffe....hellary's campaign manager!!!! NOW he wants everybody seated when he was the one who set the precedence LOL talk about history coming back to bite you in the %*$ lol
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JGGIRL
Comment: According to Wikipedia about Michigan"
Michigan Democrats moved their primary date to January 15 in an effort to increase the state's influence in the presidential candidate nominating process. They argued that the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary unfairly dominated the selection process.[4] Democratic Party rules prohibit any state, except for Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina, from holding its primary before February 5. On December 1, 2007, the Democratic National Committee decided to strip Michigan of all of its delegates to the national convention. Michigan would normally send 156 delegates. A similar occurrence happened in Florida.[5]
The decision of the DNC diminished the significance of the Michigan primary.[5] On October 9, 2007, following Michigan's breach of DNC rules, Barack Obama, Bill Richardson, Joe Biden, and John Edwards withdrew from the Michigan Democratic Primary ballot.[6] Dennis Kucinich unsuccessfully sought to remove his name from the ballot.[7] Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd decided to remain on the ballot.[8] Although Clinton said she would honor a pledge that she and the other Democratic candidates had earlier made to refrain from campaigning or participating in Michigan,[8] Clinton and Dodd drew sharp criticism from Biden, who stated that the two candidates had "chosen to hedge their bets" and had "abandoned Democrats in Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, and South Carolina" by staying on the ballot
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JGGIRL
Comment: About Florida:
In August of 2006, the Democratic National Committee adopted a proposal by its Rules and Bylaws Committee that only four states: Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina would be permitted to hold primaries or caucuses before February 5, 2008.[1]. In the spring of 2007, the Florida legislature passed by overwhelming majorities House Bill 537[2] which moved the date of the state's primary to January 29th, a week before the earliest permitted date[3].
In response, the Rules and Bylaws Committee voted on August 25, 2007 that Florida was in violation of its rules, and gave the state 30 days' notice to change the date of its primary.[1] As Florida did not respond, the Committee stripped Florida of its delegates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention.[4] On August 31, officials from the four approved early-voting states asked all the candidates to pledge not to campaign or participate in Florida, and all the major candidates signed the pledge.[1]
In October 2007, Democrats from Florida's congressional delegation filed a federal lawsuit against the DNC to force the recognition of its delegates: however the suit was unsuccessful.[4][1]
[edit] Delegate controversy
On January 25, 2008, Hillary Clinton advocated permitting Florida's delegates (along with simarly situated Michigan's) to be seated and vote at the Convention[5][6] despite the DNC ban, stating
I believe our nominee will need the enthusiastic support of Democrats in these states to win the general election, and so I will ask my Democratic convention delegates to support seating the delegations from Florida and Michigan.[7]
Clinton's supporters argued that Michigan and Florida's citizens should participate in the nomination processes, and that it would be a mistake for the Democratic party to overlook the states that might be crucial in the November general election. They also argued that the Clinton campaign had not had a voice in the decision to strip Florida of its delegates.[1]
Critics charged that changing the rules in this way was unfair and that Clinton's position was motivated purely by political expediency.[8][9][10] Among their arguments was that neither Clinton nor her campaign had made any public protest when Florida's punishment had first been announced in August 2007;[1] that Clinton was adopting this position only after results from the first primaries had made it apparent that the campaign was not running the way she had expected;[1] that Clinton, along with other candidates, had signed the pledge not to campaign or participate in Florida;[1] and that at the time the pledge was signed, Clinton's then campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle had proclaimed that
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JGGIRL
Comment: Clinton's then campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle had proclaimed that
“ We believe Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina play a unique and special role in the nominating process.... We believe the DNC's rules and its calendar provide the necessary structure to respect and honor that role. Thus, we will be signing the pledge to adhere to the DNC approved nominating calendar.[
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Exmun
Comment: DrKnowItAll,
Webb does want the job and he has not ruled it out. It is VERY common in the political circles to deny that you want the VP job or be coy with it. He has not closed the door on it and in recent interviews there a twinkle in his eye when asked directly. So I would not rule him out. I think he and Barack would be a good team. He's not a world class orator like 'Rack, but he doesn't need to be. He only needs to bring the 'perception' of balance and the 'perception' of an experienced military man to Barack's ticket. He's an incredibly thoughtful person, having written like 8 or 9 books. AND he just co-sponsored an updated GI Bill that just passed the Senate with a vote of 75-22. Even if Bush vetoes the bill as threatened and the Congress is not able to override it (they've got more than the 2/3 majority in the Senate, but not yet in the House), he'll go down as a hero to vets and 'Rack could rub McAbsent's nose in it for opposing the bill and not having the decency to show up and vote.
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TGen
Comment: DrKnowItAll: "but when the smoke clears I think she's the safest choice." I beg to differ. I think the Secret Service would be working OVERTIME were Hill and Bill to enter that White House under Obama. *No joke*
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Exmun
Comment: javone77, you beat me to it. The serious irony was that Terry McAuliffe then the DNC chair during the 2004 election said something like "if you (Michigan) move up your primary, you'll be watching the convention from the couch." Here's more irony for you. Harold Ickes, another Clinton staffer, will be arguing at the Rules Committee meeting on May 31st that the FL and MI elections should count was on the Rules committee last year when that rules committee voted to strip FL and MI's delegates. What in the hell credibility do you have arguing to count the elections when you voted a year before to not count the elections is beyond me? But that's Clintonian truth for you. Facts are things that can be changed to suit the situation. This is straight from their 90s playbook when we were defining what "is is." Or when we had to have a damn national discussion about whether oral sex was "sexual relations." The foolishness has to stop, and if the Dems lose this November I will blame Hillary AND the Democratic Superdelegates. Because THIS is the reason they were created... to save the PARTY from a candidate bent on destroying it. Damn fools they are not to step forward and end this thing.
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DrKnowItAll
Comment: I agree Exmun that Webb seems like a good choice. But I heard him on Olbermann the other day say if Obama or Clinton asked him then he would tell them to go in another direction. Hopefully you're right about him being coy. He'd make the Obama team alot more balanced... and that would eliminate any Hillary talk..
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LazySusan
Comment: I have to agree with the poster on Lou Dobbs. I too used to watch him until his hatred for Barack Obama became too obvious to ignore. And as for Gov. Patterson's remarks, they are what they are. Hillary Clinton IS desperate and she is a woman. A woman that's hinting that she would like a man(Sen Obama) to pay her bills that she made. A desperate woman that can't let go of a race she's lost or a man that does not love or want her. The truly shameful thing here is that the MEN have acted with more sense and maturity than any woman supporter of Clinton's. Hillary Clinton is acting as if she is the only person to ever experience a disappointment. It could not have been easy for John Kerry, Bill Richardson, John Edwards and all of the many males that have once run for this office and had their dreams squashed, to suck it up and rally behind Sen. Obama. But they have. Billary is the only hold out. And I could maybe see it if they had never been in the White House before. So this 'squalling panic' you see from both of them just baffles me. Instead of acting a fool in public, Billary should cut their losses and get behind Sen. Obama. If any two people could help him beat McCain in the fall, it's that wretched duo.
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TGen
Comment: LOL, LazySusan, I think you're referring to my post yesterday on Lou Dobbs. You are so right, his hatred has gotten to the point that it affects his credibility, which makes me take him a lot less seriously on other things.
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TGen
Comment: OMG, I'm so silly. I 4got I wrote that today! lol My bad, it's time to go home for real! lol Have a good and safe Memorial Day wknd yall.
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javone77
Comment: 4 get them lazysusan. Think about AL GORE! I went to bed thinking al gore was the new president and whejn I woke up Bush had stolen the damn election. that is disappointment BEYOND anything hillary could even begin to fathom!
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kwrob
Comment: Maybe Lou Dobbs just (mis)remembered that Paterson was an Obama supporter.
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MsBlake
Comment: Breaking news: Obama picks up four new superdelegates today. (includes two former Edward supporters and one from Clinton). Yipeee!! not long to go now. Obama 08.
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queeniebunz
Comment: A black man and a white woman on a ticket = [White] America isn't ready for that. If Obama chose Clinton, it would be like election suicide. He needs a white man on his ticket. White America needs to see a white male on that ticket to feel comfortable with Obama in office. Believe that. I hope it's Webb and that he is being coy as others have said. I think he could really put Obama over the top. His rebuttal to Bush awhile back did it for me. The man is bad.
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fanteeking
Comment: MsBlake: G'mornin'. Please don't do an end zone dance too early!! Hillary has spent 11.6 million of her own money and I know she's a brilliantly shrewd politician. I just feel that she has some damaging informaion on Barack that she's hiding up her sleeve and at the most opportune time, its gonna come out. I can see the contempt and deceifulness behind her sardonic, steely smile. Mark my words!!
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fanteeking
Comment: queeniebunz: Do you think Webb could appeal to and win over those blue-collar redneck voters of Ohio, Penn. and WVA? I feel that Barack would lose a lot of those white female feminist voters, because they're pizzed and feel that Hill has been disrespected by MSN.
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Deb70
Comment: B.itch, just go!! I'm sick of this. She needs to be out of this race now.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >fan - Yes, I do think he could get them for Obama. He is a vet and his son is or was in Iraq. That would appeal to them. It makes Webb look as patriotic as American flags and apple pie. Blue collar peckerwood crackers love that sh*t...
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MsBlake
Comment: Hey Fantee, howzit going? I have a bottle of Moet that I've been dying to open to celebrate Obama's nomination, are you sayin I should wait untill June 3rd???. Queenie, I watched a clip today of some voters down in WV and.........well........I found it quite disturbing. Basically they were saying they weren't ready for a black president and they'd never vote for Obama, I don't think it matters who is on the ticket with him for these folks.. Media are always harping on about Obama needs to appeal more to low income white voters, that he needs to try harder, when the fact is race is a major issue for many of them. Here's the clip.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ODaxZSz3Awg&feature=rela ted
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javone77
Comment: ROFL @deb70
queenie: what happened with bush and webb? I haven't heard about it.
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Calidee
Comment: >>Shulamite you asked a good question.
Something does not feel right about not counting the Florida and Michigan votes. Why would these states agree to do something that would render thier votes useless? Do they care about who will become the next President? Regardless of whom you support or your party affiliation it seems to me that the basic principle of ones right to vote (and having that vote count) is being ignored.
Of course Hillary is going to fight for these votes because she thinks that they will help her. But she should not be the only one in this fight. None of the candidates should have agreed to this. By doing so they were basically giving a finger to the voters in Fla and Mi. We all know that the Republicans are more patriotic than anybody else (yeah right) and getting involved in this mess will not help them but there is nothing more patriotic than voting and having your vote count.
In the last 8 years Fla has had some ish surrounding their votes. What is going on in that state ? Why have the Democrats allowed the DNC to dictate which states should vote first? I live in Ca. Why can't we be first? Somethin ain't right.
I take my right to vote very serious. If I lived in FLA or MI someone would be in court, in jail or out of a job.
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Exmun
Comment: fanteeking, Barack doesn't have to win all of these folks... these so-called blue collar white folk under $50k/yr. He just has to get a few more of them to come over to his side. It's my understanding that no Democrat (including Bill Clinton) has won a majority of these folks since the 60s, including winning Democratic Presidents. You just need somewhere just north of 40% of these folk to make a successful push for the office. Truthfully, Barack never really competed in Appalacia (WV, KY). Without Hillary draining votes he's bound to pick up a number of these democrats in Ohio and Pennsylvania. And a person like "Webb" will give him 'perceived' balance to court voters in Webb's home state of Virginia (a possibility this year) and places like Ohio and Pennsylvania.
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javone77
Comment: You're right exmum....I am one of the blue collar workers they are talking about. I am heavily educated...but as a teacher, I receive almost bottom of the barrel pay. I will be honest and say that I did not vote for barack in our texas 2 step...but that was a technicality. but I will definitely be there in november! so that's one extra vote right there!
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Exmun
Comment: Calidee, you make a good point, but your post ignores the fact that Barack never got to make his case to Florida. Personally, I live in Florida, and folks ain't up in arms about our vote not counting. We understand that it was our legislature and governor that got us into this mess. And the 1.7 million folks in Florida who DID vote (including me) were aware that the vote wouldn't count, but the few of us who went to the polls did so to vote for an important amendment to our Florida Constitution dealing with the portability of a homestead tax benefit. So don't buy Hillary's hype. Most of us who went out to vote did so for stuff not dealing with the Democratic primary. Plus, it's hardly an "election" if the candidates didn't have an opportunity to campaign and court voters... Without active campaigning the race is a beauty contest on name recognition alone. And don't let it go unsaid, the Republican party also sanctioned Florida from moving up the Florida primary by cutting their delegates in half. So it's not like the Democrats are doing something off the wall. The Democratic party's complexity is that there was not active campaigning so it's unfair to say that there really was a vote, because campaigning undoubtedly would have affected the numbers, and people like Barack would have energized new voters to vote in the primary (and 'Rack was denied this opportunity). It's a little more complex than Hillary's voter disenfranchisement argument. The Dem. party will basically have to guess that the outcome, had they permitted campaigning, would have been the same as reflected. And we all know that this is not true.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >javone77 - A bit ago (can't remember how long) Webb was asked to give a rebuttal to Bush's State of the Union speech. He got up in Bush's azz like a bike with the seat off. He spoke about the war and how ridiculous it was and how he was saying it from the standpoint of being a veteran AND his son serving in Iraq at that moment so he had a lot more credibility because he wasn't some intellectual Beltway type. He also dissed Bush when Bush asked him about his son at an event. Webb basically told Bush to not speak his son's name or something to that effect when Bush said something about how his son was doing over in Iraq. He dissed him so hard and so publicly that it was replayed all over the news. I had mad respect for him for doing that. So yeah, I think Webb could boost things for Obama if he were to join him on the ticket. Webb is a cowboy. He says what he wants and could care less about the fall out. He's like "So what!? I said it! And?..." Peckerwood crackers eat that sh*t up. So, I hope he does end up on the ticket w/Obama.
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javone77
Comment: Queenie: I needed a laugh like nobody's business and the bike with the seat off comment was all I needed to see! ROFL I LOVE rengades...people who are not afraid to go off on a fool who is clowning!
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Exmun
Comment: LOL @ Queeniebunz "He got up in Bush's azz like a bike with the seat off."
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javone77
Comment: queenie: I just saw webb's picture and I can see him getting in that fool. lol the nerve of that idiot asking how his son is doing in a worthles war. he might as well had asked him if he was dead or alive. smh
but webb does look like he shoots on the weekend and chews tobacco lol
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Exmun
Comment: javone77, that's exactly why you want Webb on the O-team. He is a 'son of the south,' a bit refined, but accepted as one of them. And for 'Rack to possibly claim Virginia, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and possibly Indiana, he needs someone like Jim Webb to mix it up with the those "hard working Americans ... white Americans." (pun intended at Hillary).
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javone77
Comment: yeah I know. so he's cool with me lol I can't get with hillary though. her female supporters are suffering from PMS that is being transmitted from her to them and they can't shake it. lol luckily, I can control my own pms lol
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Exmun
Comment: PMS is right.
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fanteeking
Comment: I got your point, but won't a lot of them Betty Friedan/Gloria Steinem, white liberal feminist jump ship if Webb is on the ticket? Even though, they tout this liberal view, they feel that INDIRECTLY Barack is responsible for Hillary ALLEGEDLY being subjected to sexism during this campaign. They'd want to send a strong signal to the DNC by jumping ship that they wield considerable power and can kick %*$. Ellen DeGeneres, Barbara WaWa and them other folks on the VIEW can politic on TV and sway a lotta votes. I see a train wreck coming up ahead!
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Exmun
Comment: Well, yeah they might be upset, but who are they going to vote for? John McCain. He's pro life and likely to appoing 2-3 Supreme Court Justices to the high court. I don't doubt that folks are going to have sore feelings for a while. I also don't doubt that a minority of ignorant folks are going to sit it out. But the majority of sane thinking folks, including the Gloria Steinems are going to realize that the stakes are too high to appoint a Republican who has made no secret about his desire to continue the current policies. I think in the end, everyone will come back on board the Democratic ship, because organized groups of white people like NOW the LGBT groups will understand that their influence is best had from within.
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javone77
Comment: I don;t think so fantee cause he biggest mouth on the show.....joy behar...likes Barack
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Stephanie
Comment: Exmun, I ABSOLUTELY love your posts. You are brilliant. You really calmed my nerves about the delegate counts, etc. My question to you is, why won't HRC concede when its obvious a no brainer she is not going to win!
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Exmun
Comment: Stephanie, right back-atcha. I'm glad I was able to help with the delegate math. If you watch too much Mainstream Media you'd always have the feeling that Hillary could catch up, when the race was effectively dead a month and a half ago. The answer to your question is indeed the $64,000.00 question of the week. I honestly don't know. I've heard and read all sorts of opinions from 1) her trying to muscle the VP spot on 'Rack's ticket to 2) honestly/dishonestly believing that she has a chance to 3) win to her wanting to weaken 'Rack so much that he will lose in '08 and she could come back in 2012, or 4)clinical shock that has resulted in her failure or inability to deal with losing. When you look at her actions and possible motives nothing is a dead on match. Personally, I think (honestly) that she may have some form of mental illness, some type of delusional disorder. But on the record if it's any of the above three possibilities, I'd say that it's probably no. 3 or 4 (weaken 'Rack in '08 and come back in 2012 or mental shock). Her actions could not possibly the actions of someone wanting Obama to put her on his ticket. Way too aggressive and combative. No olive branch displayed and her tirade in Florida this week comparing the FL/MI issue to elections in Zimbabwe are soo over the top... you get the picture. Or it could be the mental shock and her inability or refusal to see/acknowledge defeat. Let's face it, life if rigorous to compaign for President. It's like being in a pressure-cooker for a year and a half. I could totally understand her not mentally able to acknowledge defeat until Barack reaches the magic number of delegates, even though her presence slows down the inevitable... 'Rack winning the nomination by reaching the magic number. This theory could at least explain the irrational behavior of Clinton to not give up even when she's sinking deeper in debt and losing credibility by the moment. Sorry to be so long, but Hillary Clinton and her motives are as mysterious as the wind.
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Name:
shulamite
Comment: Hi all, Don't know if anyone is still reading, but HRC just argued that she should stay in the race b/c BO may get %*$assinated like RFK did in June 1968. BO's camp got upset, her camp defended the comments, and then her camp came back to apologize... to the Kennedys, but not to Barack. She has been daydreaming in her mind that BO could get killed and it came out today.
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Name:
shulamite
Comment: Stephanie: Why won't HRC concede? She hopes BO will get %*$assinated. Out of her own mouth. Today.
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Name:
Selah
Comment: Even a blind man can see that she should leave. Bye Hillary!!!!
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