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ChocolateBrownGa1
Comment: You would think someone who had gone through fire with the civil rights movement and claims to be advocate for the black community would have more sense not to make a statement like that to ANYONE. Also, as someone who had his own show on CNN at one time (Both Sides with Jesse Jackson) you would think he would know to treat all microphones as live until you take them off. Jesse can take a seat on the bench with Rev. Wright.
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barnone
Comment: i think JJ needs to take a lesson from the late JFK. he once told a reporter, he doesn't publicly, whether on the record or off, say anything that he would have a problem seeing printed on the cover of the new york times. wise words 4 any public figure 2 live by.
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javone77
Comment: Lord have mercy. I am not sure what to say. however, knowing fox news' reputation for fudging on the truth this may need to be taken with a grain of salt. however, if he truly did say it.....smh. I guess he wasn't around when that gave that word a funeral. smh I'm with ya chocolate: it is time for jesse to exit left...stage right. I am curious to see how all the people who agreed that barack was talking down to black people react to a civil rights icon using that word.
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Taurusingr
Comment: Co-signing ChocolateBrnGa1,plus....Ok!..we KNOW J.J. is a piece of----!! But FOX ain't slick!! They could have brought all this shyt out the 1st time!!, but they are so desperate to get Obama on that racist network, that they are trying to "goat" Obama on there, trying to come off like "they" are/were being objective & looking out for Obama withholding this shyt til now!! They're even blaming it on a fukk'n production assistant, saying HE leaked the story!!...More B.S.!!! "They" planned ALL THIS SHYT from DAY ONE!!! Just some Eeeeeeeeevil mo fo's!!!! One!
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Taurusingr
Comment: Let me get this in Urrrrrrly!...Hello Javone!! sml!!
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javone77
Comment: LOL hey taurus LOL
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javone77
Comment: the crazy part Taurus is that Fox is reportedly refusing the release the transcripts of him saying it. why they have a conscience now? they had not problem putting the first clip out there. they were waiting to see if they could catch him dominating the headlines. they are using this to steal his thunder and jesse's %*$ done fell into the damn trap.
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javone77
Comment: hell they are not trying to be slick. they are being white cause we all know that's what white people do when their backs are against the wall. the couldn't get him with rev wright, hillary couldn't get him, now he's gaining on mccrazy in polls about the war and he is having ideas that mccrazy is trying to steal. They are going old school...the old divide and conquer.
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Taurusingr
Comment: javone77:...Ummm,B.S.??, never/SELDOM makes any sense!!! You know?? Holla!
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mainman
Comment: Not only have the mighty fallen, but this old fool is also a hypocrite. What a shame.
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TGen
Comment: Okay, I'm calling foul now. I will not fall for FOX's okey-doke. BillO has the nerve to call the person who leaked this a "weasel," lol. Something tells me the weasel is the man in his mirror. The funny thing is BillO said, "I'm not out to hurt Jesse Jackson..." LOL! Since when? This is the SAME guy who spent COUNTLESS segments talking about how Jackson was a "shakedown" artist? Hell, he's built his CAREER off of "hurting" Jesse Jackson! lol Sorry, I am not a fool. I knew when they said there was "more that he said," that slowly but surely it would be leaked sporadically. Look for more of this from FauxNews, they will milk this for all its worth, nothing they want to see more than a divided Black community. They live off this ish. Don't fall for it yall. Yes, JJ was wrong for using that term, but the bigger story is how trashy FauxNews is for exploiting this whole ordeal--that was supposed to be off the record. Olberman mentioned how "real" news stations don't routinely release things like that, but then we're talking about FOX though. Don't feed their b.s. yall. Take this ish with a grain of salt.
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sultry
Comment: I was so very disturbed about this story when I first read about it on yesterday. I cannot beloeve how Jessie keep on putting his foot in his mouth like that. What is this pop-eyed fool's problem. As I stated before I have never been a fan of Jessie Jackson . There haave just always been something about his that just did not sit right with me. He has soem nerve to even use the "N" word. He is suppose to be such a civil rights advocate. I am really learning not to like him more and more.
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Kulchaman
Comment: the older you get & you doing dumb things, that's why Fox is wearing his azz out by exposing his comment & it only scares his persona, it makes you think how real he was before all this...plain blasphemy lashing out on a brother who have taken the path you once walked.
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leeneepoo
Comment: Hey FAm when I first heard the slip up I knew then he said the N-word; after he talk about cutting O's nuts off how could he have not said the N-word? Did everyone notice how the other gentlemen was looking at Jessie when he said those disheartening words about O?
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shulamite
Comment: I don't care how sleazy Fox/O'Reilly is - they aren't magicians who made the man SAY what he said. He was dumb, dumb, dumb, dumber than dumb. I really want to slap JJ up the head something fierce - and then when it stops ringing - do it again. But in JJ's (small) defense, he is old school and his use - in that context - of the word n*gger was not being derogatory toward black people. It was saying that Obama thinks of black people as n*ggers. Of course this nuance was missed by the white MSM boards. They think JJ calls black folks n*iggers. But then again, maybe when he is ticked off, he DOES call black folks n*igger. Who the heck knows? Honestly, when this story broke yesterday, but the transcript wasn't released yet, my worst fear was that JJ called Obama a n*igger directly... I pray that he didn't. Dumb, dumb, dumb JJ!!!!
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shulamite
Comment: leeneepoo, JJ's co-panelist is MIA for real - lol! I think he agreed with JJ's point from his body language, but had enough sense to reel back from the disgusting language. I know he's thanking JESUS that he didn't say anything out loud.
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FiveMore
Comment: That's what he get for going on a network that dogs out blacks every chance they get for ratings.And guess what, I have no sympathy for him /people, who claim to have good sense but I can't tell by their stupid actions.
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TGen
Comment: Shulamite, you're right. JJ was dumb for saying it, but my point was that this, for me, does not change my opinion of him. I wasn't suprised in the least to hear he said that, lol. He's already proven to be classless, so for me, the bigger story was the exploitation of this by Fox. Also, I don't know if I agree with you that JJ was saying BO thinks Blacks are n-words. I think n*ggas is a word JJ probably uses a lot in everyday slang language. His use here was just a continuation of that. But again, yes you're right, he does not deserve a pass on this--and neither does FauxNews.
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CRENEEJ
Comment: well OMG, JJ said the n-word. so the hell what? why is this news? people expect him and other ministers to always be above what normal people do, but he is just a MAN, same as BO, and same as rev. wright. they're all JUST MEN. the only thing these comments did was put more people in BO's corner. (I have to wonder about that one). since last week, everyone's been coming down on JJ saying 'he needs to step out, he's a disgrace, oh how the mighty have fallen'. what the hell eva. i hope that BO never puts his foot in his mouth, cuz what will happen then? people especially EUR need to have more respect for JJ and other black leaders who are out on the frontlines, and stop trying to make it seem like BO is the all end all. we need more than just one black leader. JJ speaks to some, Rev. Al to others, hell even Najee Ali to some. are we going to systematically set out to discredit them all to the benefit of BO? I think Faux News leaked it on purpose, and you know what.... i don't care that they did. my problem is w/ everyone who gave JJ their azz to kiss when it was leaked, including his kids. the minute a black person goes against the majority of other black people, they're called everything but a child of God, and their black card is usually revoked. maybe i'm just ranting this morning from too little sleep, but i don't see why this is an issue.....
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BlkATLTop
Comment: Remeber the "Fk Jesse" bumper stickers I talked about when the first story broke? I think I'll look for "Fk Jesse" t-shirts now too.
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Olivia
Comment: You know I don't know if he used it or not or the context. I haven't to see it. If he's was talking about "talking down to black people" and Obama is trying to tell ( in quotes) "nixxers" how to behave Jackson could have been talking about it from a classiest standpoint "those people" those "ni88ers" or using it as a general characterization of black people ( which is a no no to me period). There's another report that he Jesse Jackson did use the "N" word. But it was not directed at Barack Obama so Fox News denying he called Obama it would be true, but not the word being used.
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BlkATLTop
Comment: When the first segment of Jesse's rant was released, some folks wanted to hear more of what he said in order to put it all into context..... unfortunately it seems the more you hear, the worse it gets
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Olivia
Comment: shulamite......in that context - of the word n*gger was not being derogatory toward black people. It was saying that Obama thinks of black people as n*ggers. Of course this nuance was missed by the white MSM boards.....................
I was thinking the samething too. But who knows.
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Harleyquinn
Comment: It is wrong that he referred to us as niggers. Not when he was one of the ones who helped "bury" the word in Detroit.
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Harleyquinn
Comment: Obama thinks we are niggers, too? I don't think that is so. Please do not cover for Jesse's ignorance by putting words in Senator Obama's mouth.
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BlkATLTop
Comment: I think Jesse will be camped out in Spain for a very long time. JJ Jr., you need to give your daddy a hug
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shulamite
Comment: Creneej - from the book of James chapter 3 I think - "Let not many of you become teachers (pastors), for you will be judged with a stricter judgement". Olivia, that was my take on Jesse's meaning that Obama was the one calling blacks n*ggers.
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BlkATLTop
Comment: Please stop with the AS&SUMPTIONS that Barack was thinking of Black people as nigs and therefore JJ gets a pass. Dayum
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TGen
Comment: BlkATLTop, I'm with you. I don't think in that forum, JJ would have been that sophisticated to use the "n word" to bring home his point about Obama. I think he's being given too much credit, lol. I believe he was just talking out of his azz and got caught, plain and simple. I'd bet money that he uses the n-word on a regular basis as do many Blacks, rightly or wrongly.
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CRENEEJ
Comment: Shulamite, then i'd also say, 'all have sinned and fallen short'. so he's allowed to make a mistake. do we judge him yes... do we call for his head on a platter and leave him out to rot in the desert no....my problem is that people are using this to discredit a life of service. c'mon i don't care what he did or what he said. why are we allowing the negative to outweigh the positive.
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shulamite
Comment: Harleyquinn I don't condone the word nor do I like JJ. But the nuance of the meaning in this interview is important to recognize. He's calling Obama uppity. Either way, it is a deep insult to Obama. Obama probably NEVER would even think the word n*gger in reference to another person, much less say it. He's got too much personal class to do that.
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Harleyquinn
Comment: CRENEEJ The problem is that Jesse hasn't always allowed others to get off of the hook for their mistakes, so we should just give him a pass.
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shulamite
Comment: BlkATLTop wrote Please stop with the AS&SUMPTIONS that Barack was thinking of Black people as nigs (yes, I do think this is what JJ was [wrongly] getting at) and therefore JJ gets a pass (no JJ does NOT get a pass and nothing in my posts suggests that I think he should). Go back and read, think, breathe, and try again.
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CRENEEJ
Comment: shulamite, do you know BO personally? that's a strong azz statement if you don't. all we see of BO is what he wants us to, and this is the same person who had enough class to call some of the yt people in PENN bitter.
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shulamite
Comment: Creneej - please don't hijack this to talk about Obama. It's about Jesse Jackson. It's well known that Obama detests crass language and the "coarsening" of America as he calls it. And he's lived up to that verbal integrity for what I can see. So, no I don't think Obama looks at AAs as "n*ggers". I don't think Obama can mentally make that association in his mind (which is good). Would you want a (black) president who could?
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McNasty
Comment: You know you've outlived your usefulness when you just can't be trusted to speak in public. It's time for Jesse to stop talking and especially to the media and FOX! Damn Jesse!
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yunvme
Comment: Jesse, Jesse, Jesse, SMH. Lawd have mercy. Despite the feelings I have about Jesse concerning this latest twist, am I the only one that thinks this was a low down thing Fox news did? I know I shouldn't be surprised but it is so sneaky. They have certain people on all the time- as friendly associates. To turn around and do this to Jesse is fvcked up. Also, I dont see how any of this matters to Obama. Other than the fact that comments were made about him, he doesn't have anything to do with this.
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McNasty
Comment: I too take this with a grain of salt and wait patiently for fox news to wear out the story of the faux pas that mccain made last week. While I believe that 'out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks' I believe mccain accidently meant to say 'exploit iraq oil' he was supposed to say 'explore iraq for oil' - the media should be taking that mis speak apart and analyzing and especially because when he tried to correct himself he said exploit again.
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TGen
Comment: Yunme: "am I the only one that thinks this was a low down thing Fox news did?" NO. Read Taurisngr's and my first posts. I still contend this story says much more about Fox than it does JJ. There is no new info here. Jesse Jackson is a tool, duh. lol I thought we already established that the first go-round. The story here is that this minor incident is being exploited by an agenda-driven network, and some people are falling right into their hands. So no, Yunme, you are NOT the only one who sees this for what it [really] is.
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javone77
Comment: I am not one that is trying to discredit his service. However I AM old school and believe that when you get to the point where you are in places you know you should not be and you start saying things you should not, then it is time for you to go somewhere and sit the hell down. creenej: the problem I think a lot of people are having with your argument is that sometimes you portray that JJ should be held above reproach which is not true. When he carried and presented himself as a staple of the community, he was given that respect. Now, unfortunately, the shine is gone off of his star after the out of wedlock baby and now this. They had a poll on hardball the other day asking which black leader you wanted to speak for the community. the answer was barack obama followed by al sharpton, then JJ. The numbers weren't even close. 29% for obama, al had 6% and JJ had 4%. I think that now, in order to preserve what little reputation he has left, he should lay low. He could have come out in support when needed but now he can't even do that. So...maybe he should put his focus on the rainbow coalition or something.
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shulamite
Comment: yunvme --> now as for Fox, yeah that was screwed up. O'Reilly just told Jesse (and Al and any other black pundit on Fox - taking notes Juan????) "I don't care how many times you've been on this show you're just another loudmouthed crass n*gger to me.". Basically that's O'Reilly's attitude (like what Malcolm X said re a black man with a PhD). Shameful. Cause WE KNOW that white guests have had real controversial stuff said off air and they buried that mess. At least Olbermann called Fox on it.
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bigchassie
Comment: HEY JESSE!!!....... HAVE SOME NUTS!!!!
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shulamite
Comment: TGen --> I cosign that Fox has a diabolical agenda and that it is the real story. But damn Jesse, did HE have to be the one to play into it?????
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javone77
Comment: yunvmen: yeah it was low...real low. but hell did we expect anything less. they were the ones who came up with the terrorist fist pump. they were the ones who played ev. wright every 15 mins on every show on the channel. anything owned by rupert murdoch like Faux news and the new york post..is subject to scrutiny. But like I said earlier, because Faux news will twist any and everything to make stuff crazy, I would take this one with a grain of salt. However, if JJ had stayed off that network and kept his mouth closed then none of this would have been happening...and I am sure that every one of us can agree to that. There is just some stuff you don't say!
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javone77
Comment: Chassie!!!! I missed ya yesterday I was knocked OUT! I am planning my graduation for this weekend so I am on the go! I want that video. you still need my email?
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javone77
Comment: on another note: barack just announced that the campaign raised $52 millions dollars in june! Let's Go BARACK!
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Platinum
Comment: Fox News crew are getting their laugh on now! However those words came out of Jesse Jackson's mouth, this is the same man who marched, boycotted, and sued based on words and action that kept black people down. Judas is what I call Jesse, he's accusing Obama for the same behavior he's guilty of "talking down to black people" yeah whatever, those same words have come back to haunt him.
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVONNE>yeah, give me your email. if you want to check out the video, go to jibjab.com. they had it on ABC World News Tonight. but i'll send you the JJ illistration too. it's hillarious!
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVONNE>yeah, i read that too. but he still needs more money. McCain raised 100 million this month. those dayum rethugicans always did have the deep pockets! shiftless varmits!
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CRENEEJ
Comment: jav i feel what you're saying, but i don't want BO as my black leader, and don't feel that there should be just one. who are they polling? shulamite this does have something to do with BO. if he hadn't said 'i wanna cut his nutz off', and had said it about say, o'reilly, would black people have gone for his head? NO!!!! we need more than one black leader, and since BO hasn't really been saying much about improving things for exclusively black people like he has done for exclusively others, then he doesn't speak for me.
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OSUN
Comment: Creenj surely you are not comparing JJ use of the word %*$!(@ to Bo calling whites bitter. That is a stretch. Your subjectivity is showing in that comment.
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leeneepoo
Comment: Platinum....you are so correct. I'm cetain this was not the first time Jessie said those words on a muted mike...it was just a matter of time until the mike was live and Jessie be exposed on his true feelings about OB. Hind sight I feel bad for him because now he is sitting back thinking about all the marches, boycotts, Rainbow coalition, etc. all for the good...knowing full well he was and is a Judas just as you mentioned. Our parents always warned us loose lips sank ships....
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BlkATLTop
Comment: Shulamite- just because my comment appeared beneath yours, doesn't mean it was directed to you. You and I aren't the only ones posting on here. Now you go sit in a corner and BREATHE!
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Sexee
Comment: Messy Jesse, what a cute name.. LOL
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Sexee
Comment: I do believe this was a well-thought out plan to undermine Barack. "Messy Jesse" was sent to stir trouble. It's clear as day.
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shulamite
Comment: Creneej --> You have to give him a chance to GET elected. He will have black peoples back once he's in office - no doubt about it. He just can't ride that train *now*. And, one way he has black folks' back today is the simple fact that he won't go on Fox. I think he knows (unlike dumb JJ) that Fox has unsavory actions against African Americans. He doesn't need Fox and he sees no reason to give them the time of day. That's the difference between him and Jackson. Obama is strong enough to not need every white audience that will possibly listen as a venue - and so he can pick and choose wisely. Jackson, on the other hand, lives and breathes for every audience that will give him play as the supernegro-victim activist. And so, he sets himself up to be clowned by them when they decide to pull his honorary white buddy commentator card (like Fox did this weekend).
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javone77
Comment: creenej: I have no idea wo they are polling but they did poll. I understand your opinion but a vast majority of people do not share that opinion. but I guess my question for you is who made him the "sole" leader? I don't think he is...but IF he is...then blacks did it! Barack has not once come out being negative about any black leader that came before im..but he was attacked by one. BAD choice whether you want barack as the "leader" or not. JJ did himself and the entire community a serious disservice with this slip up...whether intentional or not. the most harmful things are usually done unintentionally.
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OSUN
Comment: I dont think anyone expects perfection from a human, however someone who foists themselves into the public spotlight and lives there is expected to have a modicum of class, intelligence and common sense. Jesse has not displayed these qualities for awhile. Respect is earned and Jesse has done that. However respect can be lost, which he seems to be what Jesse is subconciously aspiring to do.
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javone77
Comment: chassie: my email is javone77@aol.com
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shulamite
Comment: Has anyone heard from Jackson's co-panelist? Who is he and where is he?
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Sexee
Comment: Messy Jesse was jive talking and forgot where he was. He's upset he's not the HNIC. LOL.....
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katgrrrl
Comment: Taurusingr, I wanna know the same thing. Why are they comin' out with this NOW. Why didn't they just tell it all the first time around. Unless this is their way of keeping our infighting in the news. And they have him on tape making the other comments. I have to HEAR this one for myself (not that they couldn't get a JJ sound-alike and dub it, but..) Since they put the other video out there, put JJ making the N-word comment out as well.
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CRENEEJ
Comment: SHULAMITE, he is HIDING!!! lol!!! and i don't think he will have our backs. how you get into office is how you will stay there. i hope i'm wrong in his case, but if not then i won't be disappointed b/c my expectations aren't high for either candidates ability to do what they say they will. OSUN, i'm not comparing the two. i just don't think that JJ deserves all that he's gotten b/c of this. so what he said he wants to cut his nutz off. that's how he feels. he wasn't actually going to do it. he doesn't have to like him, or support him, and because he doesn't he's catchin all types of hell.
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yunvme
Comment: Barack was on FOX before....I thought.
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katgrrrl
Comment: Then again, there's a slight possibility that this could work in Obama's favor. Yt's will think to or even say among themselves "Hey, other Blacks don't even like him! He's got my vote."
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BlkATLTop
Comment: I recall as a teenager being embarrased when my dad road an old 1965 bicycle through my neighborhood wearing a suit. Of course all of my friends just happened to be outside that day ready to point and laugh. That level of embarrassment pales into comparsion to what the Jackson kids must feel right about now. My sympathies to the jackon kids. It's not your fault your dad is a total fk up.
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javone77
Comment: That's a very thin argument creenej. "so what he said he wants to cut his nutz off" what? words have power!!! that's like me going to work and telling someone I wanna cut my bosses nutz off. why would you even put those words into the universe?? JJ is supposed to be a civil rights icon...and as such, should have his language and actions be representative of the community. how can people even take him serious now?? If Barack had said that you would be drilling him to the wall. so JJ should be no different.
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Angel
Comment: For those saying Jesse's actions hurt BO--how? If anything I think it helps BO because most yt folks don't like Jesse, so the fact that Jesse and BO are not buddies helps bring in more yt voters. Let's face it, black folks are going to vote for Barack, even bitter azz CreneeJ will soon quit going to those damn PUMA meetings because she knows her azz is voting for Barack too. LOL
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javone77
Comment: yunvme: yes barack was on faux news...ONCE. it didn't take him long at all to figure out that those white people meant him no good. it's one thing to ask the hard questions like people like Tim Russert who was known to drill fools relentlessly! but it's completely another to be ready to say and promote slanderous things. Barack did not go back...even though they continue to ask him.
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Harleyquinn
Comment: Co-sign BlkATLTop!!!!!!!!!!
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javone77
Comment: ROFL angel. I agree. I said the same thing. white people do not like JJ so this should help him. just like castro's BS will help in the long run.
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OSUN
Comment: Creenj you are exactly right he doesn't have to like or support Barak. But others can not like, support and/or disrespect JJ as well. Neither Jesse nor you can expect us to let Jesse rest on his laurels. I think an individual reaps what they sow. Jesse brought this upon himself with his stupendeous mistake, freudian slip of the tongue. I will join in the scripture quoting and say out of the mouth speaks the abundance of the heart. The REVERAND Jesse Jackson's heart is abundantly clear. It is apparent when someone doesn't support a candidate because they disagree with their core values, but it is also clear when it is strictly a vain personal decision.
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yunvme
Comment: He's been on and he will be on again.
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BlkATLTop
Comment: I'll bet while Jesse is out of the country, he'll do something noble like negotiate the release of Israeli hostages in order to get himself back into folks graces.
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Harleyquinn
Comment: JAVONE77---Barack has been on Fox more than one time. He's done Fox and Friends, their morning show plenty of times. He probably will go back on, he can't afford to alienate a section of the voters much like McCain speaking to the NAACP.
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OSUN
Comment: BlkAtl- I think Jesse should go sit down some where and regroup. Stay out of the limelight for a year or two.
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Angel
Comment: ROFL @ BlkATLTop. Jesse will be pulling kittens out of trees, saving whales and baby seals and searching for Osama Bin Laden, too. LOL
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVONE>Okay. i just sent it to you. check your email.
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVONE>AND STOP MAKING GOO-GOO EYES AT TAURUSSINGER. HUEY WILL FIND OUT! LOL!
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javone77
Comment: harleyquinn: my mistake! I was in school when all this began so I wasn't paying much attention. thanks for the info :)
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Quanli
Comment: King didn't trust him and Coretta never endorsed him for President. There is a reason for that folks. This is no surprise!
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shulamite
Comment: Creneej wrote " b/c my expectations aren't high for either candidates ability to do what they say they will." IMO, this presidency is a wash. Bush has done too much damage and the world is a different place. But I'd rather it be a wash with BO in office than McCain, esp since ti looks like we're about to get into it with Iran. :-/
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javone77
Comment: chassie: everytime I talk to a man I am making goo goo eyes? LOL I'll check my mail. quanli: wow. I didn't know that!
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sweetpea
Comment: Like I said before, I never like him, never trusted him. His actions are a disgrace to African-Americans and Christians. He shouldn't even have the title of reverend. As, a Christian, I have to pray for him and forgive his actions and hope he does the same.
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVONE>*with one eyebrow raised* i don't know about you girlfriend, i have to keep my eye on you. ummmhummm. but then again...ain't nothing wrong with lookin, chile! lol!
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVONE>cause i tell you, eventhough he's married, i be peekin at OB. he's gonna make a good lookin president!
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CRENEEJ
Comment: wow, ANGEL, that's real cute. i'm not bitter. i call it how i see it. i don't care for BO, but i'm gonna vote for him b/c he is the lesser of two evils. i respect JJ, mistakes and all. i'm not saying he gets a pass, but enough w/ the F**k Jesse comments. that's all i'm sayin....
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javone77
Comment: chassie: hey! I'm a young single woman. I gotta get out there or I am gonna have 12 cats living with me and I don't even like cats LOL
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JamerDelta
Comment: >>Good Morning. Like EXMUN said yesterday, do you guys really work??? LOL I'm cracking up! Its only 9:40 EST and there are already 85 postings. WOW!!!! No matter what anyone says about Sen Obama--the one thing you can't say is that he hasn't helped to make people more interested in this presidential race!
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CRENEEJ
Comment: do we hear yt people saying f**k this one and that one of their own leaders, besides bush (since nobody likes his crazy azz anymore?) why do we have to? so what he said something messed up, we all do. i'm sure that if people were to know what we were really thinking all the time a lot of us would have less friends than we do right now. Quanli, MLK and CSK not trusting him doesn't mean much to me.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Well, Well Well. The old, tired "nig ger" debate. This is exactly what we get for being stupid enough to attempt to ban a "word" from our lexicon. Although based on the report, the word nig ger was not used in a derogatory way against Obama, the mere fact that JJ used the word nig ger in any form is where we are. I could give a flicky fck about him using the word and believe it's what his dumb azz gets for the grandstanding most of us doing re: the use of the word...even the hypocrites who casually use it on this board...when it suits them. Fox is doing what I expected they were when the originally released the snippet...they want to sensationalize the story, create division and take JJ down. As of now, they seem to have been successful at two of those and we'll see what happens w/JJ after this since we've decided that we no longer need him, Al, Farrakhan because of how badly we want Obama to be our next leader...you know...the next MLK...you know..since we need "a" person to lead the slaves through the underground railroad..you know...since we...
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVONE>gurl, i know that's right. get your peek and flirt on. just make sure HUEY is not looking. you know how he is. lol!
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Grace12_34
Comment: I agree that JJ very likely uses the "N" word on a regular basis. The words "classiest" and "Jesse Jackson" don't even belong in the same sentence. I have NEVER liked him or understood more than four words in any given sentence he put together. I have NEVER viewed him as a "black leader," but more of a person with his OWN ultimate agenda. The idea of him speaking Spanish is laughable. As for Fox News and BillO, I am waiting to HEAR the tape of JJ using the "N" word. The news station should have played ALL from the very beginning. Let her rip!
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javone77
Comment: creenej: I have one question for you. if Barack had been in JJ's place...doing and saying the things he has...would you still say "so what?"
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Angel
Comment: Ummm...Creeneej, I hate to point out the obvious girlfriend, but your azz is bitter. Almost every comment you've posted since Hillary's demise began back in March wreaks of it--even when you swallow your pride and attempt to give BO a compliment. But it's ok. Lord knows if Hillary would've weaseled her way into the nomination after that Hindenburg of a campaign she ran, they could've just renamed EUR "Bitter Central" for a good 3 or 4 months.
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katgrrrl
Comment: Is it me or is JJ startin' to look like Yoda?
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bigchassie
Comment: JAMERDELTA>now you ain't never lied about that! this is a very exciting presidential race! it's like a shot int the arm. it took off like a rocket on the first day of caucus. never a dull moment. and i can't wait for august to come. it's gonna be on! hey anybody having any Obama Parties? i'm thinking of having one.
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javone77
Comment: chassie: I live in texas girl. I am trying to stay cool right now and that is my sole focus. that and trying to get my little boy to get up in the middle of the night and go to the bathroom. LOL if I have to wash his pjs and sheets one more time..... LOL
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joyful25
Comment: So he used the "N-word" Plus, don't trust Fox when they say they can't release the clip. But even if they have it, I agree with his apology....Let's address the real issues and MOVE ON. The next president accepted his apology, that should be enough !!!
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bigchassie
Comment: KATGURL>Oooh you right! he does beginning to look like Yoda! eeuu!
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TGen
Comment: lol, JamerDelta, I used to wonder the same thing when I joined this messageboard back during the Imus bruhaha. I was wondering "how are these people posting so much?" Then slowly but surely, I started posting more...and then BO had to go and run for president! Now WHY did he go and do that! lol So yeah, people are excited and engrossed and as long as they're getting their jobs done (I have a good excuse, I work for the gubment, lol), good for them. It's interesting to see how others view different situations, I must admit.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Crenee...I see your point and will reference it by the words of Ed Gordon, who on last week, made an excellent observation re: we dimiss our elder statesmen. And I qoute: "But this question of passing the baton, particularly in black politics, is interesting to me because if you look across the board, mainstream politics, you never trivialize the older politician. He or she becomes the lion.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
GORDON: They become the elder statesman, never irrelevant, maybe not as relevant in their heyday. And for black America, there`s always this assumption that you`re no longer relevant. Reverend Jesse Jackson, while not at the height of his power, could still be very relevant.**And you and I both know, Chris, men of the cloth and those who hold up themselves up -- and I`m not suggesting this of Reverend Jackson -- but to a higher moral standard can sometimes be absolutely different and a little blue and joke-telling like.**And Barack Obama`s done something masterful to this point. And that is what African-Americans have to do who play in the mainstream.
You have to be black enough to make black America comfortable and not too black to make white America comfortable. And that is the rub for many African-Americans in this country.
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javone77
Comment: chassie: i got your email :)
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVONE>aww bless his heart. my niece used to have that same problem too.
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVONE>it's hilarious isn't it? did you see the campain cartoon? i love it! i'm gonna take another peek at it again when i cme back from break.
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Southernbelle
Comment: Note to Al Sharpton: Please strongly consider this public humiliation FOX News is dishing JJ before you agree to do interviews or lunch with O'Reily. Otherwise, you're next.
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javone77
Comment: chassie: I haven't had the chance to loom at it yet. I am looking at this woman in florida who's baby has been missing since june 9th and she just reported it yesterday! the world has gone crazy!
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BigRuss
Comment: Honestly I don't care if Jesse said it. It's about time we see the real side of people like himself. Maybe if more people started being real and quit playing to the kabuki theater we would progress better as a people. we too busy trying to be something we're not.
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Harleyquinn
Comment: JamerDelta, I'm a teacher and I'm enjoying my summer vacation!
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HersheysKiss
Comment: Soror O..."Jesse brought this upon himself with his stupendeous mistake, freudian slip of the tongue. I will join in the scripture quoting, etc. etc., etc.,---VERY WELL SAID. ITA
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JamerDelta
Comment: BigRuss, you 'aint never lied. I wish more people would be real. By the way, why do we always swallow the media's notion that these people are "our Leaders". I'm not looking for a Leader. I am the Leader in my own life and I choose others to be Mentors or as Inspiration. I love Obama's spirit and his character--I'm looking for him to be President--Leader of the Free World--so to speak. But, he's not "my leader" in the sense that he, I'm sure, will do things that I don't always agree with and he has to be all things to all people. If I'm looking for leadership, I'll create it where I am.
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TRTR
Comment: IDIOT...IDIOT...IDIOT...IDIOT...IDIOT...IDIOT...IDIOT. ..IDIOT.........
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Harleyquinn
Comment: Yeah, but Jeese was a little TOO real. Cutting somebody nuts off???? That's some real HATE!
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CRENEEJ
Comment: JAV, honestly yes i would. if you don't like a person, fine. if you feel that way, fine. i don't care. my main problem has been everyone dumping on JJ and tryin to put him out to pasture. he has done a lot, and he can continue to do a lot. just b/c he doesnt' think that BO should be the next POTUS doesn't mean that his opinion is w/o merit.
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TGen
Comment: Excellent post JamerDelta. And I think that's where a lot of people (Whites especially) get it wrong. Black people do not need "A" leader, how insulting is that? They act as such, which is why they can't get enough of JJ and Sharpie, (and maybe JJ shares their view, lol), but the reality is JJ is not irrelevant, but rather the CONCEPT of him ie "One" leader is outdated. Once people get this, what JJ says will no longer be headline news and for that matter everything a Black person does will not be attributed to BO. Once they (Whites in msm) get this, real progress in race relations will be more evident.
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CRENEEJ
Comment: and angel, no i'm not bitter. i accepted that HRC lost and i've moved on. i still don't care for BO, never have, and most likely never will. that's my prerogative, but bitter i'm not. i'm sure he'll be a better president than GWB, cuz hell michael jackson's chimp could be a better prez. but i don't really care for him, and i'm not caught up in the whole 'change' movement if we're not moving to changes that are beneficial for all, and not just the people you need to vote for you.
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javone77
Comment: Last time I checked...the change BO is after IS beneficial to all. Who in here can't benefit from lower gas prices, a better economy, affordable food, healthcare, etc?
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Grace12_34
Comment: Wendy Williams just talked about Jesse on her new television show. Three people in the audience stood up and said Jesse should embrace BO as the next POTUS.
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javone77
Comment: Imma stop calling him BO. that always reminds me of "body odor" LOL
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TGen
Comment: Javone77: "Last time I checked...the change BO is after IS beneficial to all. Who in here can't benefit from lower gas prices, a better economy, affordable food, healthcare, etc?" THANK YOU. It seems the bar is SO much higher for B.O.(not body odor, lol) than others, according to some people. They don't expect perfection from other candidates, but for some reason they do from B.O. *Sigh*
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Reds
Comment: *Oh how the mighty have fallen!?” EUR, please. For what? This: "...telling niguz how to behave." Yeah, I know about Jesse and others public campaign to ban the use of the n word, but that was prompted to send a message to whitey not to get too comfortable with it. We really didn’t expect to stop using it amongst ourselves. Not true? OK, why would Jesse be so comfortable using the same word to another “prominent” black person. O’Reilley: “One Civil rights leader disparaging another civil rights leader... “ So who was the other civil rights leader. When did Obama become a civil rights leader? Recently I heard a white pundit admitting that Obama would never speak out against the high incarceration rates of blacks.
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Harleyquinn
Comment: Don't feel bad CRENEEJ, I haven't drank the Kool-Aid either.
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KMJW
Comment: The level of hypocrisy on this post - many of the same people that I have seen use the abbreviated notation for ni&&a is now talking about Jesse because he used the word. Many of the same people that are so Pro-Everything but now they are hating on Jesse for his use of the word. If you're upset, be upset at the overall message of his foolish statements...but his use of the word ni&&a...PLEASE and I rest my case on this one today because some people are full of themselves.
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pn2ppr
Comment: Creneej, no disrespect intended but you are one strange thinking cookie. You fail to see the hypocrisy in JJ actions & comments. He wears the prefix Reverend, he speaks about black pride, and the need to diminish black on black crime. If you really think about it, JJ hasn't done anything for black people except talk. In his grand scheme he has only been for himself. Working his way in to the history books on MLK's laurels. What programs has he instituted for the poor? What has he done to take up the baton and get our voting rights act made in to law? Really and truly, for me, this is not about him saying something so nasty about Barack. It's more that JJ would say such things about another human being, period. He touts himself a man of GOD who has genuine concern for the masses and the disenfranchised. He is not a man of GOD. He is just a man, a very flawed man at that, yet he would have you and I think him our leader. Fact is, he is not at all apologetic for what he said but instead only that we all know he said it.
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CRENEEJ
Comment: but how is he getting it TGEN. we can all benefit from those things, but what about unfair lending practices leveraged on african americans. what about the high rate of incarceration of blacks compared to yts? what about crappy school systems in urban areas? is he gonna tell yt parents to read w/ their kids and do homework w/ their kids the next time a columbine happens? i don't hold him to anything higher than any other candidate. i just don't like him walking around w/ the black vote in his pocket not having earned it....he is not speaking to us, but finds time to speak about us, in a way to bridge the gap w/ some of the people whose votes he needs.
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javone77
Comment: we get upset when rappers use it...just as Jesse did. I call it hypocritical to down rappers for using it and then using it yourself. that's a problem for me and that's my only issue.
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Harleyquinn
Comment: REDS---> If "We really didn’t expect to stop using it amongst ourselves." why would the NAACP go through so many lengths to bury the word publically????? Are you saying that it's oaky for JJ to be a hypocrite? The burial of the n-word was all for show? A way to keep white folks in their place? What say you?
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CRENEEJ
Comment: PN2PPR, none taken. i don't see JJ as my leader, just he's in the forefront. he does serve a purpose in our society even if it doesn't affect you and i personally. they are all flawed men, but we don't have to make BO seem so wonderful at the expense of doing others in. now yes, jj did make this bed, but IMHO, BO threw Rev. Wright under the bus. He denounced Farakhhan. he took a day about fathers and turned it into a lecture about what black fathers aren't doing. i have a serious problem w/ that. Tavis Smiley wasn't driking the Kool-Aid, and look what happened...
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JamerDelta
Comment: >>Thanks TGen--I agree with a lot of your posts as well. Its really interesting what you said in your last post and people don't stop and think about why they're holding Sen. Obama to a higher standard. For me, its enough to have someone that is concerned about this stupid war, realizes that people are suffering in this economy and is concerned that a lot of people don't have health care and wants to do something about it and is astute in his judgement and thinking and ON TOP OF ALL THAT he looks like me? WHAT? After hundreds of years with no choice but two rich white men. The thing I believe is that some people rely too much on soundbites and out of context reporting on the news and make judgements of him through that. Everytime I see him give a speech--I listen to the whole thing and I HEAR him and do the "gut check" for myself. I believe that he is who he shows himself to be and I think that's why he's attracting so many people to him. He's not a savior or a messiah--just a black man being real running for president. Stop looking for him to solve all black people's problems.
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CRENEEJ
Comment: i think we all know that amongst us, the n-word is acceptable but by someone of another race it isn't. i laughed at the n-word burial, but did understand trying to get it out of the music. it's one of those 'do as i say, not as i do' things.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Jamer/TGEN..Unfortunately, that IS the the direction we are currently headed for. Replacing ONE leader w/another. We have been searching for the next MLK and many of us...and the media feel as if Obama is that man. NO JJ is not irrelevant but we are speaking his, Al's Farrah, "irrelevance" into existence in our dialogue, books, media appearances etc. Truthfully, Obama will NEVER go to a Jena...unless traveling w/yt folk. I laughed on last night when they were calling Obama a civil right's leader. I was like WTF is that? Obama can't be that because he is black. OTOH, Hillary would have been a champion (specifically but not exclusively) to women's causes and would have used every opportunity to speak on women's behalf..something Obama can not and will not do. That's why we "need" civil rights activists. The generational divide is real and it is coming to bite the JJ's of the world in the azz. Obama will be the new face of black america and every "new" black thing will be attributed to him. Anything opposite his "ken doll persona" will be seen as anti black progression or worse cause further division in our community.
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Reds
Comment: Harleyquinn, I wouldn’t go as far as to say it was for a show, but it was aimed mainly at discouraging its use amongst whites than anything else. OK, check this out, were any of these public outcries against using the n word prompted as a result of a black person using it. They all were a result of whites abusing it. I really want to know how many blacks can honestly say they have stopped using the n word in private, as a result of these actions to “bury” it.
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CRENEEJ
Comment: Jamer, I don't want him to solve black people's problems, but dam acknowledge them. condemn the practices that created them. stop pandering for votes to yts and hispanics and not black people.
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mandinka_99
Comment: pn2ppr re: "If you really think about it, JJ hasn't done anything for black people except talk."
I beg to differ. I'm old enough to remember when JJ and Operation PUSH was the template and vanguard for social action and change. depsite his flaws and loooong before his own fathering of an outside child ... JJ was advocating that black folks put down the drugs, stay away from crime and to have a hopeful empowered attitude about themselves. "I AM ... SOMEBODY!" was apart of every positive black person's lexicon in the 70's and 80's. I ain't giving JJ a free pass on his flaws or messed up comments. I do think however, we black folk have terrible habit of building people up to impossible levels of expectation and then gleefully enjoy tearing them down. Mark my words, 10-20 years from now when Obama mistakenly puts his foot in his mouth, and (yet)unborn 20 & 30-somethings start tearing him a new a$$hole, you will probably be "defending" Obama as I "appear" to be defending JJ.
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JamerDelta
Comment: CRENEEJ, I've refrained from talking to you directly,because I just don't get you, but I gotta ask you one thing. Were you around when this Rev Wright thing happened???? Where and when did he throw him under the bus? Did you not hear his speech on racism and how he kept trying to explain where Rev. Wright was coming from? He went on The View and talked about it, and he talked about it everwhere and defended him UNTIL Rev. Wright came out and started talking out his neck about Obama then he had to distance himself. You don't remember that? Or is it just selective memory--i don't like the man, so I'll use everything I can against him. You don't have to like him and you don't have to vote for him, but use the truth in your arguments. As for the Father's day thing. I find absolutely nothing wrong with his speech--I loved it and maybe because I have a personal requirement not to have a baby without being married and can't really relate. I truly believe all things begin with personal responsibility and then whatever the gov't can help with comes after that.
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musbdherbs
Comment: PN2..I don't recall Crenee saying that JJ was not being hypocritical but that being overheard saying nig ger is no big deal. The mere fact that you are able to come to the board and marginalize all that JJ HAS to nothing means that you have been drinking from the same bottle of Thunderbird that the media..and many in our community would like for you to. I would urge you to see what JJ has done and would offer that as much "bad" he has done...he has done many more good things. Both JJ and AL are constantly interviewed about seeing themselves as "leaders" and w/every one of 'em that I have seen..they have ALWAYS rejected the notion that they are. Yet, we continue to accuse them of the same. Crenee...Obama HAS talked about the incarceration rates, lending practices etc. So I can't get w/you on that. He has talked about those things...usually in a speech b4 black... folk when he has gone on to talk about black men. The "black men" part of the speeches are the ones that get covered. There are things that we are gonna have to "deal w/" re: his presidential run that will/should make us uncomfortable. It is no different than how "we" can't do the same things our yt counterparts can on the job. It doesn't make it right or fair but it is what it is. THAT DOES NOT Mean that we should just shut up and not talk about it.
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gingerg
Comment: Hell no! What us gone do with Jesse? O'Reilly is an azz. He's just been waiting for something like this. It really shows the depth of self hatred.
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katee
Comment: Memo to Jesse: It isn't about you anymore!! Get over yourself! And tell Hillary, too.
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Big10
Comment: Hit the road Jessie and don't you come back no more no more no more no more. Hit the road Jessie and don't you come back no more. "What you SAY"?
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Yo, theres sumthing supa-natural 'bout this Obama dude...Check it out...Evry'time somebody says sumthing critical 'bout him mysterious sh1t happens to 'em....'remember Tavis, where is he now?...Look at Jessie...A man that media savy should know better, unless...."Supa-natural"... Barak's black magic gotta hold of Jesse's tounge and took control...Folks are disapearing off the charts if they utter one critical remark 'bout Obama...Look at Hilary...Thought she had the nomination in her pocket...She broke, no money, Bill lost his standing with Black folks...His N-card.. revoked...Strange sh1t start-en to happen to folks man...Look at Dr. Maya Angelo...nodding out, incoherent, her poems don't even ryhme no mo'..."supa-natural"...Better watch ya'll backs Melody Cool and Creene...unexplainable sh1t gonna happen...This reminds me of a twilight zone episode...Yo, ya'll betta think good thoughts about Rak...I mean Senator Barak Obama...Comedians!!!, people paid to write and say jokes...can't even write a dayum joke when it comes to Senator Barak Obama (who is a good man, a good man)...They've lost their humor..."Supa-natural"...Man, I'm scared...Look at the old civil-rights guard...They're getting dissed by rappers who ain't had to go through sh1t...Some of these rap cats are even threatening to beat these old people up...Bob Johnson, that knee-grow better be dayum careful...Watch, his team won't win a dayum game...He might loose all his money if he keeps letting Jordan draft players and make personel moves....Senator Obamas people are putting 'spells" on muthafuccers...Run!...Run!...Run! Ya'll n!ggers betta run!....
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mandinka_99
Comment: musbdherbs re: "Obama will be the new face of black america and every "new" black thing will be attributed to him. Anything opposite his "ken doll persona" will be seen as anti black progression or worse cause further division in our community." This is very insightful. It's been said time and time again, that we black folks have tendency to "let" the white man and the "white media" pick our leaders. I remember back in the day when every legitimate black leader and ever wannabe was copying Jesse's style. Back then Jesse was a media darling and could do no wrong. There were grumblings among the "older" black leadership that Jesse was selling out; so to an older brotha like me all of this is deja vu ... "here we go again"! That's not to say that Obama is not a legitimate leader in his own right. But we need to remember, Jesse, MLK, Farrakhan, Sharpton and a lot of other "old guard" leaders we revere ... WERE NOT POLITICIANS AND NEVER HELD AN ELECTIVE OFFICE. Obama, by far is the most promising black leader who HAS HELD AN ELECTIVE OFFICE to come along in almost a hundred years! He is first and foremost a politician, no matter how much he might slip into "preacher mode". And mark my words, he's just as human and flawed as any leader we have ever had. It's just a matter of time before his dirty drawers get aired. I wonder how allof us black folk will handle it, then!
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mandinka_99
Comment: B00TANEB00TUS ... ROTFLMBAO !! People tend to forget that Obama is HALF-KENYAN!! This brotha got motherland connections even the most serious back-to-the-motherland-afrocentic brothas among us WISH WE HAD!! People worried about Obama being an undercover "Muslim", they betta be worried about Obama being an undercover 'WITCH-DOCTOR'!!! The New York Times printed that cover of Obama as a Muslim and Michelle as a Black revolutionary ... HMMPH!!! How much you wanna bet they got some voo-doo dolls stuck with needles that look like Hillary, Bill, Jesse, McCain and all of their other enemies and critics!!! That Black Magic ain't nuttin' to play with!!! LOL!!!
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blackdragon
Comment: CRENEEJ, come on. The use of the n-word is unacceptable among all, including blacks. This double standard is ridiculous. Don't want whites to use it? Don't use it yourself. As for Jesse Jackson, I think he knows his time of relevancy is gone. I don't hate the man, but I don't think he's in any position to be any kind of leader given his track resord like having a baby out-of-wedlock with a mistress and his recent comments about Mr. Obama. I reject this idea of one leader or one voice speaking for all African-Americans. We are a population that is not the same or monolithic in any way. We all have our owm ideas, likes, and dislikes. The days of one or two individuals speaking for or representing an entire population are over. People need to be their own leaders.
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pn2ppr
Comment: Musbdherbs, I don't drink alcohol so you can put the brakes on the lame insults. As I said in my post, for as long as I've been alive (and I'm an old head) I have heard JJ talk. Talk. Talk. Talk. I'm still waiting for somebody to give me facts of his actions that have benefitted the people. Real, tangible examples. Saying that he has done plenty or a lot is not a credible argument. Creenj: you said, "but we don't have to make BO seem so wonderful at the expense of doing others in". So are you saying it's ok to do Barack in just because you don't agree with his views? Was it ok for JJ to publicly humiliate BO just because he disagrees with his views? Just because you don't agree with someone, or even like them is not reason to publicly humiliate them. We are not making Barack seem "so wonderful". I never said the man was wonderful, I do however agree with his views on many issues but that doesn't make him wonderful to me, that makes him my President.
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gingerg
Comment: This is really too much for me today. Jesse showing out ..... NFL players throwing up gang signs. What's next?
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Repeat after me...Senator Obama is a good man, a fine man, a thoughtful man, a rightous man, a presidential man...Say that a few times a day and that should keep those "Rak-roots" off yo Black azz....
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Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: Is it too late to do an intervention on Jesse? Anyway, although I wouldn't put it past Jesse to say the n word, I'm not going to be convinced he said it until I see the whole transcript or hear the clip. I'm wondering why Faux News has "refused" to release it. Are they keeping it on the shelf next to the Michelle Obama "whitey" tape? Kind of makes you go "hhhhmmmmmmm...."
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Name:
kwrob
Comment: This is an exerpt of a letter from Najee:
Open Letter to Jackson from Najee (Political Activist)
*Rev Jackson, your vulgar tirade caught on tape by Fox News where you said you wanted to cut Barack Obama's nuts off and accusing him of talking down to Black folks by giving moral lectures at churches is the last straw for me and a growing number of African Americans who are outraged at your comments...Rev Jackson your continued verbal attacks on Obama are unwarranted...for years you have been criticized as an ambulance chaser and opportunist...40 years ago in Memphis as King lay dying from an %*$assin's bullet your first thought and action was to smear your shirt with Dr. King's blood.You then proceeded to appear in Chicago the next day on several news programs wearing the same shirt you deliberately smeared with his blood as if you were the heir of King's movement. Obama's recent comments about Black fathers not abandoning their children and accepting moral responsibility in our lives is a lesson you apparently needed to learn when you were younger...Maybe that's what really bothered you about Obama's message...you certainly haven't been.
Living in Los Angeles I have watched your ten year old daughter Ashley Laverne Jackson grow up...I will never turn my back on Ashley her mom and their family. It's about providing friendship, support and love to them while you have been missing in action...Your daughter has never traveled or taken a trip with you...you have an annual birthday party in Beverly Hills every year...but your youngest child has only attended it once...She has had very little contact with her siblings and has never even met her big brother Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr, who apparently doesn't want anything to do with her...the destruction of the Black family and absentee fathers is a major problem in our community.
It's a problem that King spoke out and fought against. 40 years after King's murder I can see why King didn't trust you...Listen to Obama's message of being a responsible father and start taking care of your daughter Ashley.
Najee Ali
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musbdherbs
Comment: Jamer...the overused phrase "under the bus" is the new "hate." We simply used it interchangeably to describe whatever fits the description. Personally, I didn't like that he threw Wright overboard in the same way I didn't like Farrakhan's as.sasination. But I understand why he did. Doesn't mean I have to like it. As I've said b4, I liked his Father's Day speech. I just wish that he (in an era where hardly much good is said about black men) had reserved any criticism of black men for another sunday. BOOT...u made me choke on a damn watermelon seed. Dammit!
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SistaBigBone69
Comment: Fox need to release the tape or shut the he!! up talking about it. They keep harboring on this, either provide the whole message or quit giving us bits and pieces. This is old news and I am sure Jesse and Obama has moved on.
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mandinka_99
Comment: blackdragon re; "I don't hate the man, but I don't think he's in any position to be any kind of leader given his track record like having a baby out-of-wedlock with a mistress and his recent comments about Mr. Obama." One thing I've observed about us Black folk is that we have some damn-near impossible standards for our leaders. This time last year a whole bunch of us (black)peanut gallery political pundits and armchair analysts were going back and forth about whether or not Obama was "BLACK ENOUGH" or whther or not he he should kick Donnie McClurkin off of his campaign tour over some gay/homosexual controversy! The truth is there is not one ... NOT ONE ... black leader, past, present or future who is going to PERFECT and RIGHT 100% all the time ... 24/7 ... 365 days a year ... every year!! Right now, it simply is not POPULAR to utter ONE disparaging syllable and Obama's name in the same sentence. The problem ... is that when ANYONE get's elevated SO FAR above being able to be critiqued publicly, we are all in big trouble. 8 years ago, white folks jacked George Dubya Bush up so high, that to utter one word in a critical manner against him and you were labeled anti-American flag-burner out to destroy democracy! Now Obama has been hyped up to near sainthood! It's not his fault! But we've jacked the man up and our expectations of him so high that WHEN HE DOES FAIL TO MEET SOME OF THEM ... and eventually he will ... we're gonna be ready to nail him to a cross!! What bothers me most is that some'a y'all younger folks have incredibly short memories or simply weren't even born when Jesse paved the road and open the doors that Obama is walking through! Some'a y'all young folks right here today dismissing Jesse as irrelevant are benefitting from Jesse's past accomplishments, even though YOU can't see it! I hope I'm around 10-20 years from now to hear some'a y'all defending Obama when future generations start dissing him as irrelevant! I wonder what y'all gonna say then???
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musbdherbs
Comment: Pn2...I do think that it is fruitless for me to list what JJ has done for "us" because if you haven't (as long as you've been alive) heard JJ do nething unrelated to his personal benefit, then it means that you are not interested. I liken it to these dumb yt folk who, after witnessing the fallout over Obama's Christian Church and hearing him proclaim his christianity, they still say "he's a muslim. So no, I won't even bother to list nething for you. It won't matter. JJ didn't "publicly" humiliate Obama, he made a comment about obama that eventually became public. There is a difference. MANDIKA..I agree w/your post above about Obama eventually failing and then what. BUT, I disagree about it's younger people who are dismissing JJ. Unless by younger you mean under 60.
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katgrrrl
Comment: CRENEEJ comment: "i think we all know that amongst us, the n-word is acceptable..." I am so tempted to say "N*&&*, please." But I really hate that word so I'll just request that you please tweak that comment. Please put the words "some of" in between "among" and "us." I'll agree that unfortunately SOME OF us still accept the word. However, there are those of us do have a problem with it. Thank you.
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katgrrrl
Comment: SistaBigBone: *applause*
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mandinka_99
Comment: pn2ppr re: "I'm still waiting for somebody to give me facts of his actions that have benefitted the people. Real, tangible examples." I doubt that even if somebody gave you a laundry list 10 miles long of all the thing JJ HAS DONE to help black people individually and collectively that you would accept it as valid. Suffice to say that Operation PUSH took the forefront away from the the NAACP in terms of social action in the 70's and 80's. Operation Breadbasket FED thousands of hungry people nationwide. Jesse leveraged single-handlely a lot of new jobs, affirmative action measures and diversity-in-the-workplace measures among many Fortune 500 companies. One of the reasons so many white folks want to get rid of affirmative action so badly is because in the 80's Jesse Jackson was effectively using affirmative action as away to get more qualified blacks in positons of middle and upper management. But see, they don't teach that in public school no more (if they ever did) and it ain't the stuff dominating the headlines these days. You ain't gonna find a YouTube clip about it so, to you it's not "real" or "tangible".
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Mas90
Comment: Maybe we need to ask Jessie to step down (from what? I'm not sure) or just ignore him.
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QueenCityBee
Comment: Me being part of the American public. I forgive you Jesse.
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mandinka_99
Comment: musbdherbs re: "...it's younger people who are dismissing JJ. Unless by younger you mean under 60."
Actually, I had young people under 40 in mind when I made than comment. To be honest, I said some of the exact same things about the "old guard" black leadership back in the day when Jesse first ran for president; so seeing this situation is deja vu for an older brotha like me ... except I'm part of the "old guard" I once dissed a time or too in the arrrogance and luxury of my youth. I remember the "old guard" black leadership of the 70's and 80's dogging Jesse out just as bad or worse; they called Jesse a sellout when he trimmed his afro, took off his daishiki and put a little bit of S-curl in his hair to appeal to white folks a little more! When Jesse started spending more time in corporate boardroom advocating on behalf of black folks, a lot of people started pumping up Farrakhan as the "real" Black leader who was keeping it "real" by dealing primarily with the brothas on the street and fresh outta jail. So for me all of this has simply come full-circle 360 degrees!
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TGen
Comment: Boot: LOL! Things that Make you go Hmmm.... You had me crackin up with this: "Look at Dr. Maya Angelo...nodding out, incoherent, her poems don't even ryhme no mo'..." lol! Rak-roots? You are CRAZY! :)
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Mas90
Comment: Well, I'm sick of a religious black person being a leader for the black race (Jessie, Al, Far-con). I rather have someone who is educated based in economics to be a leader. The fight that Jessie & others were basically about economics not Jesus.
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Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: >mandinka- Thank you for your much needed posts. Now I've regarded Jessee as an opportunist for the past 20 years. But I also know that he has made invaluable contributions to the Civil Rights struggle and without them, we as black people would not have the opportunities and quality of life we enjoy today that were not open to us before. It really saddens me that all of the good Jesse has done will be overshadowed and become a foot note in light of the ill-advised bumbles he's made this past week. A whole lifetime of work washed away by a few bonehead, ill-timed words. *sigh* I kind of feel sorry for him, but sadly he has only himself to blame.
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VeeCee
Comment: Jesse is a lame duck "has-been" who misses attention. Who appointed him as the mouthpiece for ALL Black people??? (Will someone PLEASE kick his silly azz already....)
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mandinka_99
Comment: When Obama trips and falls flat on his face ... the very first time Obama REALLY messes up and says or does something outta character ... I'm gonna be watching these forums and message boards like a hawk to see how some'a y'all are gonna react! I don't wish no ill on Barack Obama! I'm seriously worried about US ... yeah us black folks ... in the chat rooms, online forums, barbershops, church pews and beauty salons ... flapping our gums and acting like we AIN'T NEVER said something we deeply regretted later! I ain't giving Jesse no free pass, but we armchair analysts and peanut gallery pundits are doing more harm to OUR CAUSE AS BLACK PEOPLE than anything our "enemies" could do (and we know who they are) ... when we start second guessing the relevancy of our leaders. We really need to get past this flava-of-the-moment mentality when we dialogue about our leaders. But then again, the luxury of being 48 years-old is that I've seen a lot more "leaders" come and go than most'a y'all. That don't make me better .. or even wiser ... just a lil' bit more experienced at recognizing the same-ole, same-ole okey-doke when I see it!
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mandinka_99
Comment: Closet_Nerd_Girl re: "It really saddens me that all of the good Jesse has done will be overshadowed and become a foot note." Shakespeare had a quote from his play Julius Caesar that is most appropriate for this situation: " The evil men do often lives after them ... the good is often interred (buried) with their bones ..."
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TGen
Comment: Mas90: "I rather have someone who is educated based in economics to be a leader." I don't agree with the "A" leader sentiment, but you bring up an interesting angle. You are so right and I've maintained for the longest that the success from the Civil Rights era (and all movements to keep it real) was on the ECONOMIC side. The marches were okay, but when folks' money got funny, THAT'S when they started to get a conscience, lol. People who want to be activits today should recognize this. No matter what group it is Jews, gays, you name it, their social power stems from their ECONOMIC power. Once Black folks understand this (which I think they're beginning to), A LOT of things will start to change.
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Exmun
Comment: Damn!!!! I see that ya'll at it again. Yesterday 400+ posts before 5PM EST and now 163... well mine will make 164 posts before 1PM EST. I will ask again, just for the record... Do you folks have jobs??? :) LOL! On the issue, I will say the party line that I don't care for REVEREND Jackson's comments, and I do think that he has a problem dealing with his reduction of influence in Black issues. The search for relevance is common to any trailblazer. All understandable without justifying nutty behavior. But I do think that rather than trying to defend himself, justify, explain or reexplain his comments, he ought to just rest on his former apology and sit quiet for 2-3 months. I felt this same way when he had the child with the woman not his wife a few years back. He didn't sit it out for a while. I hope this gaffe causes him to lay low and quiet for a couple months. He can come back after the DNC convention AFTER the hoopla of Sen. Obama's formal nomination and work his tail off to get us a first President of the U.S. who is Black.
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Mas90
Comment: TGEN... look how the Latinos have passed us up in economics. They don't have Catholic preachers protesting. They have legal Latinos helping illegal Latinos move up in this country.
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Exmun
Comment: The tragic loser of this "Messy Jesse" sit-i-ation is America. Had Jesse not opened his mouth 'gainst 'Rack, we would likely be seeing (if not actually) the symbolic passing of the baton from Jesse (African American who had come the further in a presidential campaign) to 'Rack Bama (First A.A. to win the nomination of a major party for POTUS)... all of this occurring on the 45th Anniversary (to the day) of MLK, JR's "I Have a Dream Speech"). I'm more saddened by THAT. And that's the damn shame of it all.
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TGen
Comment: But Exmum, maybe it's appropriate that Jesse is removed from the proverbial "baton-passing" on MLK's special anniversary because I've heard some very shady things concerning him and MLK. Maybe this was all in divine order somehow. Maybe BO will be compared more to MLK than Jesse after all. Just something to think about...
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Exmun
Comment: Boot, you are killing me softly. I loved this line "Folks are disapearing off the charts if they utter one critical remark 'bout Obama...Look at Hilary...Thought she had the nomination in her pocket...She broke, no money, Bill lost his standing with Black folks...His N-card.. revoked...Strange sh1t start-en to happen to folks man...Look at Dr. Maya Angelo...nodding out, incoherent, her poems don't even ryhme no mo'..."supa-natural"...Better watch ya'll backs Melody Cool and Creene...unexplainable sh1t gonna happen..."
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librason
Comment: Well one thing is obvious. All black people are on different pages(just hit Joe Phillips article for example) So to call someone a leader of everything black is a label yt folks put on us. I prefer Advocate. Its a shame that JJ had to make a crass-statement about Obama when we all know what the Senator said was the truth. But we should not let Fox news have the satisfaction of distraction. Jessie may not be perfect or a so called "black leader" but he has been an advocate however flawed he maybe....Fox News can EAT A DYCK!
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Quanli
Comment: mandinka, all of this would be uncalled for IF Jesse had not shown himself to be of this character countless times of over the years. To be frank, Jesse wanted to be MLK and I think this was his motive for his works. The glory, the fame, and yes the $$$
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Exmun
Comment: I get your point TGen. I've heard the stuff about Jesse being an oportunist in MLK's shadow. I have no proof one way or the other, but you raise a good point.
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dcdouglass01
Comment: Guess Jesse is just as superficial as many have suspected him to be ever since he first began trying to snuggle up to MLK.
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pn2ppr
Comment: Mandingo, thank you for the history lesson. I've been asking for examples since this whole JJ/BO mess started and no one offered the info you did. Now, can you quit beating us over the head with how old you are. Some of us have lived but not all of us have seen first hand all that JJ has done. I've not seen the results of JJ work and if I did I wasn't aware that it was due to his work. Nonetheless it doesn't excuse him for the hate speech he spewed on mic - one should never rest on their laurels.
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mandinka_99
Comment: TGen re: "...social power stems from their ECONOMIC power. Once Black folks understand this (which I think they're beginning to), A LOT of things will start to change." The truth is that we black folks actually HAVE HAD significant "economic power" and SOME OF THE BIGGEST INROADS to gaining it are a direct result of the efforts preacher/social activists like MLK, Sharpton, JJ, Farrakhan and others. What a lot of you critics of "preacher-leaders" seem to forget is that we've had at least 40 years of Black leadership in the elected-office-political arena on all levels short of president; and I don't see too many of you decrying their "lack" of having contributed to our porgress as a people. I also see a distinct disregard or ignorance of the fact the the "church" has been and continues to be the biggest incubator of black leadership. Despite the fact that we've had at least two generations worth of Blacks coming out of Ivy-League schools like Harvard, I don't see too many critics saying why don't "THEY" ... the Black graduates of Ivy League schools step up and take their place at the vanguard. Obama ain't the first brotha to graduate from Harvard and we've for every one of them that did ... we've got a hundred brothas and sistas ... from HBCUs ... some of which are "preachers" ... in and out of the spotlight gettin' the job done! And while we're at it, look at all these brothas and sistas THAT ARE in the corporate world ... WITH ECONOMIC CLOUT! I don't see too many of them doing any more than making THEMSELVES rich at black folks expense ... a la Bob Johnson!
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CRENEEJ
Comment: dam, i missed alot while i was working...KATTGRL, sorry if i offended, i should have said some of b/c i myself try not to say it and don't allow my sons to say it or listen to music that says it either. now, JAMER, you don't have to agree w/ my argument. i know most of you don't. no i don't care for him, but it doesn't cloud my judgment in knowing who i'm voting for. he was all for rev. wright before and then he came out and straight severed ties, denounced his statements (which i believe a lot of), and denounced him personally (if i'm not mistaken). this was your spiritual leader for 20 years who wouldn't have been on front street had it not been for BO, so i thought he was wrong for that. also farakhan (SP) has done a lot of good, so why not make that statement instead of denouncing that. that could bring about healing instead of continuing animosity between groups. JMHO
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Grace12_34
Comment: Bush's education is "economics-based."
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CRENEEJ
Comment: BOOT, u r funny az hell, and i'm watchin my back. if i end up goin bald or trippin on somethin, it's on and poppin LOL!!!
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pn2ppr
Comment: Musbdherbs, of all the things to say the best you can do is to liken me to yt who insist that BO is a muslim even though he has publicly said that he's a christian? Your posts are a joke and I guess that explains it - it must really be the herbs...say no to drugs.
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Mas90
Comment: Mandinka_99... ur last post I agree with what ur saying. The problem is that blacks don't want to take the risk of putting themselves out there. Bob J is ocmfortable in his setting and has been even more since the sellign of BET to Viacom. From what I heard about that negro... he didn't want to pay employees of BET hardly any money for their position. He claimed you should be thankful to be working at BET. I guess the thankfulness was suppose to make up for the pay that you could get elsewhere. But the more economic black leaders we get then the more we'll see blacks move up in the economic world. Yes blacks have moved up but Latinos have passed us up in less than the 40 years we have had civil rights.
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librason
Comment: Creneej, if Obama did what you suggested then your Hillary would be the nominee and not him.
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TGen
Comment: Mandinka_99, good post, but you misrepresent my position. I am not one of those "critics of preacher-leaders" you reference, lol. I appreciate leadership from every sector and I agree with you that the Black church has played maybe the biggest social role WITHIN the Black community...but what Mas90 and I are speaking of is Blacks' role in the larger society, OUTSIDE of the Black community. In my view, it is indisputable that in a capitalist society, money=power. Again, the power from the Jewish, Asian, gay, and increasingly the Hispanic communities is economic-based. I think if nothing else, the BO campaign has shown Blacks how powerful their money can be. They have been mega-contributors to him, and look, he won the nomination! That's huge! Blacks should learn from that and wield that power in other sectors, like boycotting racist things, creating our own [quality] businesses, etc. And btw, the Ivy Leaguers are not off the hook, but I refer you back to JamerDelta's post earlier. This "one leader" mentality is going the way of the wind. Leadership is local. These people who've achieved success should be encouraged to, instead of becoming the next JJ or Sharpie as you suggest, lead in their local communities--and many do btw. The point is once Blacks recognize their economic and thus political clout COLLECTIVELY, not individually as with Uncle Bob Johnson, they will be a force to be reckoned with, and I doubt they will be taken for granted as much as they are now. That was the only point we were making. So calm down, lol
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Mas90
Comment: Listen to this NPR radio segment regarding illegal Latinos getting mortgages with no credit & social security # but using a government issued compnay id # instead. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1 7597739 Copy and paste this link.
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mandinka_99
Comment: pn2ppr re: "...Now, can you quit beating us over the head with how old you are. Some of us have lived but not all of us have seen first hand all that JJ has done. I've not seen the results of JJ work and if I did I wasn't aware that it was due to his work." I don't know how old "you" are, but I can guarantee that if you live long enough 10-20-30 years down the road some yet-unborn 20-something or some child in diapers today that ain't even been toilet-trained yet is gonna say the exact same thing to you that you just said to me. Don't be surprised if your response is similar to what mine is to you. What I do recognize is that the luxury and arrogance of youth clouds our ability to see how we all are standing on the shoulders of the accomplishments and sacrifices of those who came before ... named and unnamed ... the celebrated and the obscure. And appears to you as a tedious tiresome brow-beating "history lesson" is no more and no less a vital part of connecting you to YOUR past ... OUR PAST! No, we can't and shouldn't STAY or LIVE in the past at the expense of TODAY or TOMORROW! But to cavalierly dismiss the past is unwise. One day, if not already, you'll realize exactly were I'm coming from; because you'll be acting almost exactly like me!
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Mas90
Comment: no spaces in the link
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CRENEEJ
Comment: libra, that may be. i'm voting for him, i just think that the same way he publicly and outspokenly panders for jews and latinos he should do it for us too.
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Mas90
Comment: The black religious preachers have been getting rich off by building bigger churches... brainwashing us into giving more to tides or GOD is going to punish you. All those big huge churches all over the north & south, just crazy. Preachers have been more concern about putting fear in you to give to church than to invest in your family. These religious antics need to come to a stop!
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javone77
Comment: ROFL @ Rak-roots LOL boot going off the chain again LOL
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JamerDelta
Comment: So, CRENEEJ, Barack made Rev. Wright go talk to those reporters and say what he said--huh? If you were running for president and your so-called spiritual leader started talking bad about you--you'd do what? Did you even see the statements Rev. Wright made that monday morning? If Barack hadn't done that many people would be asking about his sanity IMO...
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TGen
Comment: Mas90, I can't open that link at work, but I have a question for you, totally unrelated to the topic. Do you know how Asians get licenses for all these businesses? Half of them can't even speak English yet they have nail shops and hair shops all around. I'm wondering how they were able to create a business plan and sell that to a bank, lol. I've always wondered this. I had some experience with creating a business plan with a friend some years ago, and I found it DAUNTING! I'm just wondering how people who don't even speak the native language were able to sell their idea for a loan. Do you know?
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CRENEEJ
Comment: amen MAS, amen *applause*. i give my 10% to the needy, or donate it to charities. i still give at church,too, but not on that level. if i go to a church where they start the juanita bynum 'sow a seed' crap, i leave.
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ms_svelte
Comment: Mas90>Latinos have passed us because they identify white. I have seen this so often in the workplace its ridiculous. There are many asians who do the same thing. The look borderline, shoot some look their culture, but they leave any semblance of it at the front door on their way to work in manhattan (thats where ive seen it the most). some of them even put caucasian on their license - real talk. We look our culture in more ways than one. We can try to leave it home but it just wont work too well for most of us. Maybe i need to put caucasion on my license. lol
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JamerDelta
Comment: CReneej, could you please let us knwo how he's "pandering" to jews and latinos. If you are a democrat running for president, then more than likely you are pro-israel and you have to deal with immigration--is that "pandering" do you know the definition of the word????
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Mas90
Comment: TGEN... it has to be the same way the latinos are getting loans. They get a government issued employment id as if they are starting a company. Instead of having a social security #. It is a loop hole that must be filled. I'm not using the correct name to the government issued emplyment id. I'm looking for the correct name. But if you listen to the link the commentator states it in there.
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mandinka_99
Comment: Tgen, I apologize if I appear to have misrepresented you position. One of the things we tend to not do when we talk of our collective economic power as black people is think of "OUR MONEY"! We still think of the capital we generate individually as "MY MONEY"! And that kind economic individualism/isolationism is relatively new amogst us. During segregation, OUR MONEY had to stay in our communities because it simply wasn't welcome elsewhere. As a result we were more economically viable THEN in a lot of ways than we are now. Even n the post-Civil War days prior to 1900 Blacks economically ruled certain parts of the South and the West. That's why racists often burned down whole (black) cities and townships. What happen was that in the post-integration period after MLK's %*$assination too many of us defined economic success and "achieving the American Dream' as a solely "individual" endeavor. Thus there was an expansion of the Black middle class but without an impetus to push forward for progress of us COLLECTIVELY as opposed to individually. next thing you know the I-got-mine-you-get-yours ... pull-yourself-up-by-your-own-bootstraps school of "personal responsibilty" takes hold ... and among US black folks you now see an economic class division.
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Mas90
Comment: FOUND IT!!!! it is called Employer Identification Number ( EIN )
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musbdherbs
Comment: Mandinka...oh ok I see your angle now. WHEN Obama trips, it will be a shock across black america because we/the media want to make him infallible. Hence the "ken doll" references. I have said here b4, we will be falling all over ourselves WHEN Bill Clinton starts to ask for his black card back. We will forget everything. YET, we..as in black folk..and them..as in yt folk.can hardly have a conversation about Al w/o bringing up the 1984 Brawley case. We have senators with questionable ties to women in cards dumped in lakes, ex-KKK members, and even presidents who were impeached and defiled the oval office over some head from a homely intern. EXMUN...even had this NOT happened, I doubt that Obama would have been seen on the stage w/Jessie at the convention and prolly not AL. John Lewis may be the exception w/his traumatized over hellary's azz. Fact is, when there's some'n strange in the neighborhood, who we gonna call...AL SHARPTON! Obama will be found nowhere. There are plenty of people that can be out front and center pushing our civil rights/economic agenda and just as we always seek to replace somebody...yt folk would rather call who? JJ! PN2...that comparison actually is the most demonstrative of a person who continues to deny nething JJ has done in search for a truth that haven't even bothered to find out about. It is called GOOGLE. When people were talking about how Obama hasn't done nething in his career..we called www.barackobama.com. If you really wanted to know what JJ has done...y come to a message board to find out. It's easy...the letter "g" on your keyboard is sandwiched between "f" and "h." After that, "oogle" is the next time. See there..hooked on phonics..it can work for you.
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JamerDelta
Comment: >>TGen, I really believe that it has more to do with the fact that they are IMMIGRANTS and came here for Opportunity so that's what they are looking to do. They didn't come for a job--at least not forever--I've read many stories of them living multiple families or multiple family members staying together and pooling their money and saving saving saving until they can open their businesses. Usually they have a successful person from their community front them the money and then once their businesses are successful they can go to the banks and get loans. They work together and help each other--they have no choice because a lot of times they don't even speak the language and they help each other with places to stay so they can save. Also, they are not averse to working the low jobs and save their money so they can move up--its a mentality thing. I am from an immigrant family. I came here when I was nine. I asked a purely African-American friend of mine back in the day why people didn't start with low paying jobs at first and then move up,and he said that most black people think that's beneath them --I don't know how true that is, but I do know that my mom started out being a nanny and house-cleaner before becoming a nurse and I know countless others who come here and accept those jobs and save (which most of us can't even do now)and go to school and are able to move into their own businesses or better paying jobs.
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Mas90
Comment: Getting an EIN is not regulated by government to check if you are illegal, legal or from another planet. Talk about stupid!
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DOne
Comment: I really wasn't planning on posting, however, although everyone is free to his or her own opinion about JJ/AL and other's so call "old guard". For anyone to suggest that their actions haven't impacted each of us is just completely false. Just the mere fact that many of us on this board are sitting in what many would consider cushy coporate and government jobs is an indication of the impact that the old guard has had on this country since the 70s, a time when many of us would not have had access to the very seats we now occupy. Although Jesse and AL both have their faults and at times both get on my nerves, their actions alone with organizations like the NAACP has been fundamental in helping open up doors for black people and helping to guide non-discrimination policies that most companies currently have. Corporate america has resisted and continues to resist every step of the way. And what about bringing attention to discriminatory practices in getting car loans, home loans, police abuse cases that would otherwise get little national attention. Are they the only ones that can do these things, NO, but to say suggest that there has been no impact is like some black kid at a predominate white school, with a white girlfriend running around talking about he doesn't see what the Civil Rights Movement has to do with him. The question isn't whether or not they are still relevant, but what are we doing to continue to fight?
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mandinka_99
Comment: ms_svelte re: "Latinos have passed us because they identify white." This is so true! The same with Asians. It's much easier for them to "assimilate"; especially when they openly espouse anti-black attitudes. Most of them (Hispanics) are only a generation removed from the Mariel Boatlift from Cuba and the (Asians) Vietnamese Airlift after the Vietnam War! And you can best believe the try to minimze ANY and all their cultural signatures if it gets them in good with white people! The late Richard Pryor used to tell a joke about them: "They (Asians and Hispanics) know they done made it in America when they can say "n-word" and get their a$$ kicked!"
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musbdherbs
Comment: MAS....not all black preachers do that. Jamer...you can disagree w/Obama "throwing Wright under the bus" and understand the political neccessity of doing so at the same time. I didn't like it either. Obama panders to jews in the same way other politicians pander to blacks when they need our vote. Come on..he is pandering. Down at the conference in Florida..he did everything but tell the Jews that he would fight for Israel..alone..barefoot and cocked if he had to. Stop playing. TGEN..LOL..DAUNTING ain't even the word. Drafting a business plan is a real bytch.
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musbdherbs
Comment: JAMER>>YOU DAMN RIGHT. They work 2gether, stay 2gether, at low-waged jobs because it is life or death for them. Black folk here have (or at least think we do) the luxury of being picky about where we work. We don't always look out for each other as other groups do bcz too many times we are trying to move away from us. BTW...please excuse my earlier "drafting a business plan...a real bytch" reference. I was not calling women bytches. I was referring to how hard drafting a business plan is" *snicker*
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Mas90
Comment: HERB... I know it is never everyone. Stop being so damn serious all the time. GEEZ. Neeeegroos!
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lovebites
Comment: CAN WE MOVE ON ALREADY?
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mandinka_99
Comment: Jamerdelta re; "...to say suggest that there has been no impact is like some black kid at a predominate white school, with a white girlfriend running around talking about he doesn't see what the Civil Rights Movement has to do with him. The question isn't whether or not they are still relevant, but what are we doing to continue to fight?" I'm old enought to remember a time when a black man just merely having a "desk job" as opposed to being a janitor was almost unheard of! Yet, here I sit at my desk at consulting company with a Black man as an managing "PARTNER" ... with my own computer, no less ... multi-tasking like a MOFO!! Even there's definite room for improvement, sometimes we Black folks forget FROM WHENCE WE CAME and just HOW GOOD we've got it now! To borrow a quote from Jesse: "... too many of us (black folks) were born on 3rd base, think we've hit a grand-slam home run!"
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ladybyrd
Comment: We as Black American are NOT trading one leader for the next. Jessie Jackson is forcing us to chose. Unfortunately, it's becoming a no brainer. Blacks thought that they had to chose between Martin or Malcom, because of their approach. I think that Blacks as well as the Leaders found that they had more in common than not. Everyone has an important role to play in life. I think we all should stand and take our place in history. Jessie owe us and himself more than just an apology. He should discuss his frustration and let everyone know from HIS heart the love for HIS people. And regarding FOX NEWS, I will wait to see the transcripts.
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Jack_Blackmusic
Comment: OMFG over 200 respondents as of Thu. July 17 2008 @13:55
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Mas90
Comment: ms_svelte..... I agree with you that Latinos identify with whites. Also whites like to identify themselves with latinos cause they like to get tanned brown. Brown is the new black! White women believe the stereotype that hot blood latino men are great in bed! No different from the mandingo syndrome!
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ladybyrd
Comment: Herb> Are you serious? You think that this is blacks problems for trying to ban the word? really? If Jackson used the word, this is HIS problem and cross to bear. Jessie is not only a black prominent figure, but he is a REVERAND who has spoken out against whites and others slinging this word about. We need make each other accountable for our actions. This is one thing that we don't need. It was Rev. Jackson who chose to go on Fox News. It was Rev. Jackson who chose to use foul language to describe his fellow man. It was Rev. Jackson who chose to put himself above the movement. Need I say more...
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CrazzeeGyrl
Comment: This is sad.
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bigchassie
Comment: BOOT>*Twilight zone music playing in the bacground* lol! hey! do a Rod Sterling on this situation! lol!
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Mas90
Comment: HERB... Us blacks try to move away from each other is because some blacks do not know how to act RIGHT. My parents were determine to get out of the "city" for better educated schools. So we moved to the suburbs. I had a happy child hood in the burbs.
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javone77
Comment: has anyone read Roland Martin's article on education. he agrees with mccain that school vouchers is the way. I love roland but...errr....uhm....uh.....he is so wrong on this one. all you're doing is shifting kids around town. fix the school! smh
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JamerDelta
Comment: >>Musb--shoot, I wish he would "pander" to me. Let's see, I want a husband, a 2 bdr condo downtown, a new wardrobe, tightr abs (although right now, they don't look too bad in a bikini) mmmm, lets see what else can my leader get for me...how about free hair appointments--ok,ok a discount, a new Infinit FX--I could go on and on--Just a little attempt at levity!!!LOL
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Mas90
Comment: Javone... ur right... fix the schools but equal amount of tax money is not spread out across each school in for example Los Angeles Unified School District. People were made that "the valley" had better schools than South Central LA.
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Reds
Comment: Thank fully, a lot of you have seen what I spoke about when this first broke out last week. Willie Lynch tactics 101, divide and conquer. Somehow, Fox thought this would divide blacks enough to sabotage Obama - old school vs new school, Jesse nigus vs Obama nigus. But once again Fox (and Bill O’Reilly) underestimated the sophistication of blacks. As the discussions have shown, folks will place varying emphasis on the relevance of Jesse's comments, but even those of us still in Jesse's corner are not going sabotage Obama at the polls. If anything, it's only going to make whites more comfortable with Obama. Thanks Fox. Keep up the good work. But of course, we are talking about a guy and network who were shocked to find out that folks were not walking around shouting mo’f’a in a black restaurant.
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ms_svelte
Comment: herb>whites move away from each other too. They just dont call it 'white flight'. its more like 'PWT abandonment'.
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shulamite
Comment: I AM at work, unlike a lot of y'all negroes - lol! But I had to log back in over Boot's Rak-roots message. You brought tears to my eyes, Boot. Any good messages all around in here...
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shulamite
Comment: sorry... "many good messages..."
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Name:
Renetta
Comment: CRENEEJ I remember you were a hillary supporter so your venom against Barack doesn't surprise me. No matter what the subject - you always turn it into a way of trashing the next President of the United States. Are you working for the McCain campaign now. I know campaigns hire surrogates to comb message boards and leave comments to sway the public. You're so harsh against him however that you give yourself away.
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Mas90
Comment: East coast must've went home.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Mas..ok..ok...ok. lol Ladyb, JJ isn't "forcing" us to choose anything. We are making that decision on our own. We long-decided b4 we even heard of Obama that we needed anothe MLK to lead us out of slavery. JJ doesn't owe me nething because I never lived my life based on JJ's 12-point plan so there is no dissappointment on this end. Yes I do believe that black people are getting our due because of our silly desire to ban nig ger from our vocab. Couple of months back, Kwame Kilpatrick was reported as using the same word he buried...now it's Jessie. In due time, it will be somebody else. I know REVERENDS who curse. IMO, Big deal! That just means that they are human just like the rest of us. If you bothered to read, you would see that I feel no sympathy for his situation in the sense that he has allowed himself to be used as a pawn for all too long and now it has come back to bite him in the most unfortunate of ways. What we don't need is black people co-signing every piece of shyt the media puts out there over fear of a black man not being elected president. Fk outta here. If they don't vote...fine w/me. I'ma be paid regardless. JAMER...well if you were jewish he just may pander in that way..lol MAS..moving away for better services is different than moving away from the community. There are blacks in the burbs who have isolated themselves from the community. It has little to do w/folks not 'acting' right.
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khufu
Comment: foolish man
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Name:
ladybyrd
Comment: Mas> East coast goes home 5pm, it's only 3:15pm
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CaliRedbone
Comment: I just came across this... dunno how true or false it may be....Ever since Fox News aired Jesse Jackson’s infamous off-camera excoriation of Barack Obama last Thursday, some have speculated about the words uttered on the rest of the tape – the part that Fox News Channel host Bill O’Reilly said was “trash talk that had nothing to do with policy.” Well, a Fox News spokeswoman confirmed to Journal-isms on Wednesday that a transcript shows Jackson saying, “Barack . . . he’s talking down to black people . . . telling n—s how to behave.” While that language is offensive as well, Fox said Jackson did not call Obama the “n-word,” as has been published in the blogosphere and reported on the radio. The TVNewser Website, which first reported the newly public comment, said Wednesday it had been sent a transcript of what Jackson on July 6, as he prepared for an interview on “Fox & Friends Weekend.” Previously, viewers knew only that Jackson accused Obama of “talking down to Black people” after the presidential candidate’s recent statements on faith-based initiatives and the responsibilities of miscreant black fathers. The Journal-isms blog reported that Cathy Hughes, founder and chairwoman of Radio One, wrote Fox News Chairman and CEO Roger Ailes on Tuesday about the rumors that the “N-word” was directed at Obama, saying, “It is being said that Fox News Channel has a tape containing Reverend Jackson’s alleged statements where he calls Senator Obama a [’f——] half-breed [n—-’]” and asking whether Fox News Channel host Bill O’Reilly planned to air the tape that night, as she had heard. Ailes wrote back on Tuesday, “I can categorically deny that Fox News Channel is in possession of a tape containing the alleged statement you mention supposedly made by Reverend Jackson. That is simply not true.” “Tabacoff tells TVNewser that in the un-aired portions of the tape, Jackson never used the words ‘half breed n—–’ and never called Obama the ‘n’ word either,” TV Newser’s Chris Ariens reported on Tuesday.
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khufu
Comment: if he said it but i dobt he did
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ladybyrd
Comment: Cali> I think the outrage is that A) He USED the word %*$!( to describe blacks and B) He's a reverend who was caught on the mike saying that he wanted to cut the nuts off of a black man. Now, the problem is this very man would have DEMANDED an apology from any other nationality who uttered those very word through the media.
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ladybyrd
Comment: khufu> That's a confirmation that he said something that he shouldn't have.
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Mas90
Comment: Herb..."There are blacks in the burbs who have isolated themselves from the community." Elaborate... I understand leaving for education, better housing, violence... but what can you add?
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Mas90
Comment: Ladybyrd... it had dropped off so much. No one was posting. :-) Everyone bosses must've been hanging around except for mine.
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Name:
Taurusingr
Comment: When people think they're "at home"???...they're REALLY themselves & ....."let it all come out"!! Jesse is one of massa's H.N.'s!, so he thought he COULD say what he said without any exposure of it!! And FOX's sneaky,lying,racist as-s knew damn well they were gonna release this shyt nationwide!, & Bill O'YT's lying as-s talking about...."he's NOT in the hurt Jesse biz"!!?? WTF!!?? White chocolate nygga!!, "that's" all you DO is try to hurt ANY A.A.!!, especially when they are about to make some money or inconvenience YT in someway!! Bottomline??...Jesse is a housenygga,fake as-s Black leader for massa! And FOX ( who "jokes" about KILLING A.A. presidential candidates!!) is the one of the most racist company running!! Holla!!
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Taurusingr
Comment: P.S....Ummmm, take the "chocolate" part out of that!! Holla!!
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Mas90
Comment: uh yeah i don't see how OReilly could be white chocolate. He's more like those white/pink colored circus cookies.
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Name:
pn2ppr
Comment: Herbs, you clearly have anger management issues. You should really see someone about that - or just take your meds. Who named you the Queen of telling people where to go for information. I'm well aware of google but I CHOSE to ask the question on this board. That's what it's for - to share and exchange ideas and information. Before you get your little nibblets ready to type insults at people and hit submit comment, have the decency to proofread what you type - spell check, it can work for you!
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TesticAl
Comment: Khufu, what up my niggah! I haven't seen you around here in ages! Where have you been homey? Ya boy has been lookin' for you to keep him in line. Haha! Stay up. Herbs, I see you.
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kwrob
Comment: "The problem ... is that when ANYONE get's elevated SO FAR above being able to be critiqued publicly, we are all in big trouble."
So true. But the issue is more that Jesse used words that describe castration, which is something Black men had done to them throughout history, particularly during the White mobs who lynched Black men. Cathy Hughes is the wrong one to be coming to anybody's defense with all of the White people she has in top positions in Radio One, and for putting that crappy MoNique show on the radio.
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TesticAl
Comment: pn2ppr, hello *waves*. Testic Al here. I just want to let you know that you fired a shot at Herbs that almost hit him. LMAO! Watch out! LOL! You know what I mean.
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write2live32
Comment: Wow, it's interesting that Creenej seems to look at the majority viewpoint and go the opposite way everytime. Very contrarian. And Creenej, it is interesting that you want to cut slack to Jesse or Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton, but Obama is never extended the same courtesy where you are concerned. Why is that? Why does Obama get your judgment but not Jesse?
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write2live32
Comment: Well Reds, Obama has talked about injustice in the criminal system before. You just might not have been listening then or reading his writings. He did work on Illinois to help reform the prison system, specifically death row. He also got a law passed that required police to videotape interrogations. He might not have said "I did these things for black people," but they measures are to the benefit of black folks and others of color nonetheless.
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ladybyrd
Comment: Mas90> LOL pink & white circus cookies.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Mas...leaving and never having an interest in reaching back. That pretty much covers it. AL...WTF! It's 94 damn degrees over here. WTF you been..on the damn beach or some shyt in hollywood?...lol PNP..anger issues? Really? Me? WOW! I have not always and will surely continue to NOT profred or spell sheck. It has nothing to do w/decency. I don't come here to write essays to be entered into a grammar contest. W/out doubt, peple understond my pernt even w/all the errars. In the meantime, please go to the top floor of your building, jump...and impale yourself onto a samurai katana sword. Fk outta here! If you didn't know..now u know.
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pn2ppr
Comment: Yep! Anger management - it can work for you. LOL!!! BTW, the flames from your rear are stinking up the place - extinguish b y t c h!
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TesticAl
Comment: LMMFAO at Herbs! He told ol' girl to jump off a building. That's some shyt I would say. You stoopit! This nig ger was misspelling words on purpose to get ol' girl mad. Haha! 94 degrees? You can keep that homey. I HATE the summer. I'm chillin' over here walking around in some shorts with a beater on lookin' for a big booty bich so we can make our own Bangbros video. Ya DIG.
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musbdherbs
Comment: OMG! You smel that to? WHEW! That's what I get for eat'n that damn well dressed burrito for lunch. Fkng refried beans will git u erytyme! Ok, so that we can end on a peaceful note, here's an ebola-laced milkshake on me. Cheers! AL...that figures. Don't ya'll usually wear shorts/flip flops all the time down there in Mexico..I mean Belize?..lol No this nig ger didn't just say Bangbros!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL~!
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Mas90
Comment: Herb... reaching back... I will agree with that. There are parents who don't have time to that due their responsibilites/children. Herb, I take it you are childless? It's diffcult to make time with having a family to nurture. It has become (for blacks) feed and defend for yourself environment because life has become more diffcult to maintain. What is happening is the "knowledge" is not being pass to others. The problems are more than what I want to type out. I could go on for days.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: sooooooo, who are AAs supposed to identify with if other people of color identify white? y'all talking about this but there seems to be no consensus answer - if we come correct and true to ourselves, with no divisive nonsense or concern about whether other people of color identify white, or not (think Chinese who are masters of the US debt and the financial universe), then we will have people looking to identify with us (probably not in our lifetimes, though, at the level that we behave towards each other) ******** black folks*******: disoriented, uncomfortable, confused, scared and why? because an AA socially acculturated bi-racial man [O-BA-MA!!] has chosen to play by the political rules in an attempt to advance to the US presidency (it's our time to make that change) . . . . and hell, naw, O-BA-MA!! ain't throw nobody under no buses to get there (I did a close reading of the New Yorker article about O's political aspirations and achievements in the issue with the detested satirical cartoon), O-BA-MA!! has played strictly by the rules and is pizzing off the old guard (JJ and 'nem) because he won't kiss their rings or their azzes . . . . . the old guard needs to get over the fact that O wasn't in the struggle with them but he is paying dues (in January this year, a lot of us discussed whether O-BA-MA!! is black enough) . . . . . the old guard needs to get used to helping to take the struggle to another higher, positive level: this effort requires all of us, young and old, and elder, working together
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duckapoo
Comment: Remember that Mrs. Coretta Scott King could not stand Jesse? Now we know why.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Whaddup Testical? Im still around
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Name:
khufu
Comment: jesse really has always been an oppotunist
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Name:
Mas90
Comment: duckapoo.... Why? Did Jessie say he was going to cut Coretta's nuts off too?
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Mas90
Comment: The problem is we (blacks) have been cut off from our history. We don't have our own language, culture, currency, ways, etc. We adopted the white man's language, name, religion, scheming ways, cultures, food, etc. I think if we had our own language that right there would've kept us together cause the white man would never know what were saying. We wouldn't fear him when we were slaves cause we could communicate to all what we thinking, doing, etc. Latinos, Chinese, etc. stick together cause they can say what they need to say without the white man knowing what has been said. They still do that sh*t til this day. Latinos kill me speaking in spainsh in face to another. Disrespectful in a way.
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javone77
Comment: mas90: I see you are showing out again. Not a pink and white circus cookie LOL
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duckapoo
Comment: LOL at Mas90.
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Name:
Mas90
Comment: Javone... what? Orielly is pink and white. You should see him when he gets mad... he turns red like a... (thinking)
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javone77
Comment: mas90: you are right. I remember in high my hispanic AP english teacher was having us read the color purple. One of her questions really offended me. she asked how alice walker's use of the "black people's language" helped to tell the story. Man I went wild and told her that that stuff they were speaking was not ghe language of black people. that we didn't know english when we got here...we learned that broken english from poor %*$ white people who had us in chains. That lady didn't know what to say! LOL she actually tried to fail me but she didn't want none of me and my mom lol Hispanic people to this day in my schoo, will stand in a room with 4 non spanish speakers and flip into a conversation in spanish right in front of them. I make them mad by asking them if they are talking about me. that's like standing in a room whispering to someone else.
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javone77
Comment: mas90: hell I saw him. "we'll do it live! %*$! it! we'll do it live!" olbermann played that everyday for a week LOL
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Mas90
Comment: Javone... co-sign! That is a root to all our problems as a community. Action speak louder than words but hearing it can be just as loud.
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Name:
TesticAl
Comment: Khufu, it's good to know you're still around. I have always liked your post style, it goes against the grain. More than likely my style will be similar to yours when I get older. Now Herbs, fuckk did I tell you about that Mexican shyt? Nig ger I ain't from Mexico! LOL! But to answer your dumbazz kwestion, yes people do wear shorts and chancletas often in Belize. LMAO! I'm going back there real soon. LOL at the Bangbros comment!
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Reds
Comment: javone77: “They had a poll on hardball the other day asking which black leader you wanted to speak for the community. the answer was barack obama followed by al sharpton, then JJ. The numbers weren't even close. 29% for obama, al had 6% and JJ had 4%.” It must have been a mistake. Certainly so many folks could still not be aware that Obama is not going speak for them. That’s a politician that will only do things to advance his own self interest. As Ofari Hutchinson said, “He does not march, picket or protest racial wrongs and injustices in the streets. … He talks political and racial moderation, conciliation, healing and harmony.” Now all this coming from a nigu who is all on Obama’s tip. I even see one white pundit saying don’t expect Obama to speak out against the disproportionate incarceration rates of blacks. But I got news for you all, when the next Sean Bell incident jump off, Obama’s “political and racial moderation, conciliation, healing and harmony” ain’t go do jack. Even worse, by then JJ and Al may have had enough of you all cussing them out and called it quits too. Won’t that be a day, folks shouting “we need someone to march for us!”
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Reds
Comment: write2live32, OK, there was a time when he did speak up, but then he never thought he would be running for POTUS. Just like when he spoke up for the Palestinians but now want to slaughter them to get the Zionist vote. You right on another thing, he now won’t be caught dead saying "I did these things for black people."
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Fragrance
Comment: URGENT! COPY PASTE THAT AND SAY OUT LOUD EVERY DAY...
Dear Lord, I pray asking you to please protect Barack Obama. I thank you for your love and power and ask that NO WEAPON FORMED AGAINST BARACK OBAMA SHALL PROSPER!
Let's look at the spiritual ramifications....Their attempt to get us all off track until they do something to stop Barack...Remember God has a soverign will, and No Man will be able to stop Barack Obama from becoming our next US President if it's God's will, so we need to pray more. Discuss on this board as much as you desire and that's great...let's continue the dialogue, but then let's pray...WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE HISTORY LIKE WHEN MAN FIRST WALKED ON THE MOOM!!!
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Name:
Fragrance
Comment: MOON
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Name:
Fragrance
Comment: MOON
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Name:
javone77
Comment: Reds: this whole thing was created by white people.white people sat and waited on someone to do or say something that could bring about divison....and some of us have fallen for the oldest trick in the book. I, for one, am a little smarter than that. so it will be a cold day in hell when I listen to what a white man says about the intentions of a black man. but if you chose to do so then that is your choice. I am sure the poll was no mistake. there are very few people that I have spoken to that take offence with Obama. people who do are the definite minority.
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NajeeAli
Comment: Jackson suffered another terrible emotional blow in 1968. At 26 he was a promising young member of Martin Luther King's civil rights team. Considered pushy by some, the young Jackson impressed and amused King, who particularly appreciated his ability to get business firms to cough up contributions. Even if Jesse did crowd into pictures with the leader, King tolerated it with a smile. When King was shot and killed on a motel balcony in Memphis, Jackson was standing below in a courtyard. Somehow he managed to end up with King's blood smeared over his shirt. Early the next morning, Jackson turned up 500 miles away on television in Chicago still wearing the bloodied shirt and implying he had held the dying King in his arms. His behavior horrified King's lieutenants, who viewed it as profound opportunism. Coretta King could barely conceal her disgust, and for years she would not even speak to Jackson.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,96522 1,00.html
Anyone who would smear Dr King's blood on his shirt bears watching....
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Name:
NajeeAli
Comment: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,96522 1,00.html
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Name:
Reds
Comment: javone77, I’m not listening to a white man, but when a white man can acknowledge something that I and any honest black person already know to be true, then that is telling on the true character of Obama.
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Name:
javone77
Comment: reds: honesty has nothing to do with this. You are stating your opinion and that is fine but do not begin to assume to know the motivations of anyone else.
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Name:
swtsakey
Comment: ChocolateBrownGa1
That's what so suprising to me, this IS a person who is so familiar with how live broadcast works, AND how many times have others been caught doing the same thing? Also, as you stated, a former civil rights leader would bash another person of color. I just think there's more to this than what we're seeing. Not a conspiracy theroy but, think about this for a moment: What would be the best way to boost the popularity of Barack of those who traditionaly wouldn't support Jessie Jackson as president? My advice is not let it divide us as people of color. This may be corny but united we stand, divide we fall..........
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Name:
teeokeefe
Comment: Aside from the obvious faux pas that Jesse made, and the tattle tale tactics of FOX news, I think the other issue here is how freely we as black folks throw around the term NI$$A. We're the first ones jumping up and down screaming racism if the word slides from the mouth's of anyone outside of "us", but the reality, as demonstrated here, is that the word is disrespectful. Didn't your mama teach you that what you practice at home is going to come out on the street, so you need to act right all the time.
Jesse should know better, but you know the truth, this is how we refer to one another casually. That's the root cause. When we refuse to look at it as a term of endearment amongst ourselves and see it as the inappropriate (not right or wrong) term that it is.
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