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Name: JFromMO
Comment: Morning.

Name: beyourself
Comment: Good morning,JFromMo, everyone. "Happy Friday".

Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: let's get together and love one another right now . . . . . have a great weekend, our blessings continue

Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: Joseph C. Phillips shared his conservative repug views on last night's Black in America . . . . . EUR fam, you already knew what he would say and when he said it, your thought bubble said "next!"

Name: sultry
Comment: morning yall

Name: Lovely
Comment: good morning all... only here 3 hours and i have a lot of work to do... just wanted to say last night's conclusion to Black in America had an almost constant stream of tears running down my cheek. That show was so incredibly negative and I fear it's only going to reinforce the streotypes they ALREADY think about our men. I didn't see my dad represented on that show, any of my uncles, my man or any of my friends. Anyway... i'll check in when i can, ya'll have a good day.

Name: realuvbaby
Comment: Good Morning Everyone! I just had to check in after seeing last's BIA. I came away with a few thoughts: first, the black experience in America cannot ever be described or interpreted by one person, place or thing. That being said, I believe that people won't get us, because they don't want to. No one likes to hear the truth because the truth convicts you on both sides. No matter who you are, the world doesn't owe you anything and no one outside yourselves really care about what happens to you, where you are and how you got there and where you are going, so don't ask for any help. For me it comes down to taking personal responsibility for the life and quality of life you want. Our experience, our lives, our very selves are much to deep and "they" will never give us the glory because they don't know or cannot deal with the totality of our story.

Name: HersheysKiss
Comment: GOOD Morning Good People!

Name: bigchassie
Comment: *Lurking in* Morning all, happy friday. i saw the second half of BIA. i will make comments on it monday when i view it again over the weekend. yall play nice up in hurre today! much love, one love, tootles. *Lurking out*

Name: realuvbaby
Comment: I co-sign with you HarrisThomas, let's spread love and as for JCP <<lol>> NEXT! That's when I turned the TV off and went to bed. Just because you haven't had the same experiences, doesn't make your brothers experiences invalid. That's why God calls on us to be witnesses and not judges. And I loves me my black menz. Some can be knuckleheads, but for every knucklehead you see, there are so many brothers who will never get their just due because they are black men and no one wants to know about a positive black man, unless hip hop is in the mix. But know, realuvbaby got real love for you. Six brothers and no sisters is a real education. No matter what, my heart aches for the black man and I thank God and I'm so proud and happy that God made me a Black American Woman!

Name: HersheysKiss
Comment: HarrisT....you read my mind! *eyes rolling* I saw, I was disgusted. He was so annoying...particularly when he criticized Spike Lee and his reasons for not being able to secure backers. I thought to myself: Ok Joe...your BEST role was in Strictly Business...and both of your SUPPORTING actors' careers have far exceeded yours. He wishes he could be in Spike Lee Joint.

Name: YLawdY
Comment: Who is JCP? Good morning, family. Due to a tree falling and breaking the electric line to the house, I didnt' see part II. Are they re-airing it?

Name: YLawdY
Comment: Playstation 2 component incites African war Console war reaches past the couch and into the Congo, claims report. By Ben Silverman Has the video game industry dug up its very own blood diamond? According to a report by activist site Toward Freedom, for the past decade the search for a rare metal necessary in the manufacturing of Sony's Playstation 2 game console has fueled a brutal conflict in the Democratic Republic of Congo. At the center of the conflict is the unrefined metallic ore, coltan. After processing, coltan turns into a powder called tantalum, which is used extensively in a wealth of western electronic devices including cell phones, computers and, of course, game consoles. Allegedly, the demand for coltan prompted Rwandan military groups and western mining companies to plunder hundreds of millions of dollars worth of the rare metal, often by forcing prisoners-of-war and even children to work in the country's coltan mines. "Kids in Congo were being sent down mines to die so that kids in Europe and America could kill imaginary aliens in their living rooms," said Ex-British Parliament Member Oona King. So where's the connection to Sony? According to Toward Freedom, during the 2000 launch of the PS2, the electronics giant was having trouble meeting consumer demand. To pump out more units, Sony required a significant increase in the production of electric capacitors, which are primarily made with tantalum. This helped drive the world price of the powder from $49/pound to a whopping $275/pound, resulting in the frenzied scouring of the Congolese hills known for being ripe with coltan. Sony has since sworn off using tantalum acquired from the Congo, claiming that current builds of the PS2, PSP and PS3 consoles are sourced from a variety of mines in several different countries. But according to researcher David Barouski, they're hardly off the hook. "SONY's PlayStation 2 launch...was a big part of the huge increase in demand for coltan that began in early 1999," he explained. "SONY and other companies like it, have the benefit of plausible deniability, because the coltan ore trades hands so many times from when it is mined to when SONY gets a processed product, that a company often has no idea where the original coltan ore came from, and frankly don't care to know. But statistical analysis shows it to be nearly inconceivable that SONY made all its PlayStations without using Congolese coltan." Currently, the Playstation 2 is the best-selling video game console of all-time, having sold through over 140 million units.

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: Fascinating new research by my University of Chicago colleague, Jeffrey Grogger, compares the wages of people who "sound black" when they talk to those who do not. His main finding: blacks who "sound black" earn salaries that are 10 percent lower than blacks who do not "sound black," even after controlling for measures of intelligence, experience in the work force, and other factors that influence how much people earn. (For what it is worth, whites who "sound black" earn 6 percent lower than other whites.) How does Grogger know who "sounds black?" As part of a large longitudinal study called the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth, follow-up validation interviews were conducted over the phone and recorded. Grogger was able to take these phone interviews, purge them of any identifying information, and then ask people to try to identify the voices as to whether the speaker was black or white. The listeners were pretty good at distinguishing race through voices: 98 percent of the time they got the gender of the speaker right, 84 percent of white speakers were correctly identified as white, and 77 percent of black speakers were correctly identified as black. Grogger asked multiple listeners to rate each voice and assigned the voice either to a distinctly white or black category (if the listeners all tended to agree on the race), or an indistinct category if there was disagreement. Then he put this measure of whether a voice sounded black into a regression (the standard statistical tool that economists use for estimating things), and came up with the finding that blacks who "sound black" earn almost 10 percent less, even after taking into account other factors that could influence earnings. One piece of interesting good news is that blacks who do not "sound black" earn essentially the same as whites. (It turns out you don't want to sound southern, either. Although pretty imprecisely estimated, it is almost as bad for your wages to sound southern as it is to sound black, even controlling for whether you live in the south.)

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: So what does this all mean? The first question to ask is whether the impact of speech on wages is a causal one. It is possible that there are many other characteristics that differ between blacks who do or do not "sound black" that Grogger cannot control for in his regressions. It does seem likely that the biases at work would make his estimate an upper bound. (Although it should also be noted that his estimates are for young people, and the importance of speech may become important with age, in which case his results might underestimate the long-run effects.) If one believes Grogger's effects are causal, then investing in the ability to not "sound black" looks to have a huge return — roughly of the same magnitude as getting one more year of schooling. Of course, there is the issue of one's identity. There may be personal costs associated with being black and not sounding black. But these costs would have to be pretty large. (When I have Asian Ph.D. students go on the job market in the United States, I tell them that I think there is rampant discrimination against non-English speakers and encourage them to adopt Americanized first names for the job market. Very few of my students choose to do so — either a testimony to the identity cost of pretending to be someone you aren't, or possibly their lack of faith in my %*$essment of the amount of discrimination.) I was talking with one of my colleagues about this study. He thinks it will be a very important and influential one. My response, "Tru dat."

Name: YLawdY
Comment: Song of the Day: "Baby, I'm for Real" - by either After 7 or The Originals. Did you know Marvin and Anna Gordy Gaye wrote this song and Marvin sang backup on the original?

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: I recorded both episodes of the CNN but more than likely will not watch either. My opinion is this, we all make our own way and have choices in life. Now, what I feel is unfair overall is white people as a whole get second and third chances, blacks, latinos we get one good one. For example, now there is a huge influx of Romanian and Serbian criminals coming to the Chicago area. They get business loans, new SSN's, etc from the get go. How many of us would like that opportunity? You have white kids buying drugs in the hood but never see jail time. Daddy or a judge lets them out same night. How many of us have a family member who would like that? The list goes on. That is why I miss Judge Eugene Pincham, rest his soul. He would give brothers and sisters chance after chance. For example he would tell them if you do not have a GED you had to come to his chambers to study for it. Another female judge would ask men what their children's teachers names and other personal informationto determine if they were really involved prior to release.

Name: asize12
Comment: Good Morning kids and Happy Friday:-) Dear Eur: Please be so kind and remove that gawd awful Netflix ad. It is really working my last nerve. The end. How's everyone? Better yet, WHERE'S everyone? It's kinda slow for a friday, but then again, it's only 8:45. re: Black in America, JCP is the most arrogant and bougie negro that I have ever seen. How DARE him talk down to our black men! Who the hell does he think he is? Dude, nobody is checking for you! Like hersh said, we ain't seen or heard nothing from him since Stricly Business! And his character was him to a "T". He's a snob and DOES NOT represent us black men well with his rethuglican ideologies. Why he was interviewed is beyond me...oh, I get it...it's a free opportunity for him to 'plug' his lil' internet co. and to show just how much disdain he has for his fellow black man. He disgusts me...

Name: yelleyw
Comment: Morning Fam! I watched BIA and it was pretty depressing with the exception of the man who is now the superintendent of schools. That is my parents story of coming from nothing and making it. I would have liked to see a wider variety of blk men but I wasn't really surpised. It seems like some stories were rushed through which had me wishing it was longer. Overall it wasn't really that thought provoking or shocking but there were parts that moved me. I just know that the people who should have watched the program probably didn't.

Name: asize12
Comment: The Word of the Day for July 25, 2008 is: bindle stiff • \BIN-dul-stiff\ • noun : hobo; especially : one who carries his clothes or bedding in a bundle Example Sentence: Jack London's experiences as a bindle stiff in the early 1890s later provided material for his writing.

Name: HersheysKiss
Comment: YLY....JCP is Joseph Phillips, the dude who played Denise's husband on the Cosby Show. He is now a struggling author. By that I mean it's a struggle to read his body of work. Painful indeed. He also contributes (if you can call it that) a weekly article on EUR.

Name: YLawdY
Comment: Two NYPD officers rode around with a Black baby doll’s head on their antenna Dozens of African-American leaders turned out at a rally in Harlem’s Marcus Garvey Park Thursday to denounce two White New York Police officers who rode around town with the head of a Black baby doll impaled on the antenna of their unmarked car. “When you talk about the young people that are here today, and the message that is being sent to them when they see this,” said Manhattan Councilwoman Melissa Mark-Viverito, NY1 News reports, “they see the lack of serious attention that is given by the city is not really something I want to be party to.”

Name: YLawdY
Comment: While perspectives differ widely, a new poll suggests racial relations are improving When it comes to racial relations in America, hope is alive. Blacks and Whites may have completely different views about the seriousness of racism, but an astonishing 58 percent of both groups believe that America’s race relations “eventually will be worked out,” according to a new Gallup poll. “I don’t believe we’ve totally overcome everything that’s necessary for equality, but I do believe things are getting better,” says Ricardo Russell, a 30-year-old African-American retail sales manager from Oak Park, Mich., who participated in the poll. Susann Matarese, a White 52-year-old medical receptionist from Port Charlotte, Fla., admits that she’s a bit troubled by all the interracial dating these days but believes that race relations are “better than they used to be, that’s for sure.” Still, according to the poll, which is the latest in a series of surveys on race by Gallup, 38 percent of both groups believe that race will “always be a problem” in America. Further amplifying the notion that Blacks and Whites tend to see the world completely different when it comes to race, two in three White folks say they are satisfied with the way Blacks are treated in America, while two in three Blacks say they are not satisfied. In addition, the poll found, most Blacks say that racial discrimination is a major factor among the problems African Americans confront, such as dying earlier than Whites and being jailed at a much higher rate. However, most Whites see racism a minor factor or not a factor at all in those situations. But the Black perspective on such issues as employment and housing has improved in recent years, even though it far less rosy than the White perspective. Today, for example, 52 percent of African Americans say Blacks have as good a chance as Whites to get any housing they can afford – that’s 8 percentage points higher than last year. Forty-three percent of African Americans say Blacks have as good a chance to get any kind of job they’re qualified for, a 5-point spike from last year and 10-point increase from 2005. The poll queried 702 Whites, 608 Blacks and 502 Hispanics on issues of race between July 5 and July 6.

Name: letmein
Comment: I got pis*sed when hubby turned to me and said "honey, am I like that?" Our men already have it bad, no need for some azzhole to have them 2nd guessing themselves when they're working with what they've been dealt.

Name: asize12
Comment: >hersh, oh so he's an author? I guess I wasn't paying enough attention to realize how he makes his money. So, his appearence on BIA was to plug his book...What an opportunist.

Name: JFromMO
Comment: I was gon' say JCPenney. Reading really is fundamental.

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: So Armstrong Williams or that idiot black DJ from Denver were not on the show?

Name: BluLuv
Comment: Good morning everyone. TGIF!!

Name: asize12
Comment: I must say that I am a bit disappointed with the BIA series. I've anticipated this series for months only to be let down. I too was very distraught over the staggering statistics and although I'm aware that the negative aspect is a part of our culture, it just seemed as if it was so magnified for the world to see. I do believe that Soledad O'Brien is doing a remarkable job, but I just don't see how reporting something that many of us already new is going to help yt or any other race REALLY understand our plight and what it REALLY means to be black in America. They had like a 5 min. portion of how hard it is for a black man to get a job, that portion alone could've been an entire series. And I know that they have time restrictions and they have to edit out stuff, but I just don't feel like they're really doing us justice with this series. I'm not impressed. I mean, there are SOME good topics but the coverage is minimal. IMO, I think they should have a series/reality show that follows black people for an entire year. I'm talking about for real, no acting. Camera's should be planted on him/her and just let Amerikkka get a REAL glimpse of what it is like to be black because two 2-hr shows just don't do us justice...

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: They could have done a 5 minute segment on the Kappa League. At first I was skeptical because it is tied into the Kappas but after watching the work these brothers do I am impressed. They take young black men and guide them through high school in order to obtain scholarships. Truly impressive. And all of this is volunteer work. Again the negative gets the highlights but the positve stories are swept under the rug.

Name: asize12
Comment: And another thing that's irritating to me is when she's interviewing some of these people...for example, she interviewed lady that has a daughter by a dead-beat dad and they just HAD to throw in the fact that she was pregnant w/ twins by someone else...why? Why is that relevant to the story? She's pregnant by SOMEONE ELSE and this guy may or MAY NOT be a dead beat dad too, but guess what...everyone will just as.sume that he is because the 1st one was. Again, another stereotype...

Name: Penelope
Comment: Hey everybody! Hope all are well. I'm very proud of Barack Obama...here is a question for y'all: At what point will the US realize success in Iraq? I mean Obama says 16 months for troop withdrawal, yet McCain says we have not realized success and cannot make a determination and we could be there for 100 years or more. WHAT IS SUCCESS? WHEN IS SUCCESS? Anybody have an answer?

Name: RealGAPeach
Comment: I too was diappointed with the story. and JC doesn't speak for every black man. I have a lot of issues with the show and just realized it made me even more depressed. I am so drained emotionally dealing with this drama and my son..constantly telling myself that I did everything within my power to give my son direction and purpose and YET he CHOSE to do things and now he's facing a number of years in prison if not life and he's only 21. And not to sound prejudice or anything btu the family early on where the son was a DA and married to a white girl and the younger one dating a white girl. I know you love who you love but it appears from the outside- that's the culture they more closely identify with. I could feel the daddy when he said 8 marshalls came to his door and the embarrassment they felt. I don't have the money to hire a top of the line law firm to help my son and that is bugging me too. These crazy folks want to claim all this street cred- but watch how quick they try to flip the scrip when something happens.

Name: byrdee
Comment: Good Morning and blessings to all. I only post every now and then but I read EUR everyday. I saw Being Black in America list nite. My thoughts are I raised a male child by myself. He has never been in trouble. Went into the army, has a great job and 4 children. (There are many black single mothers who do this). My son is a great dad and son. I asked him how did he learn to be such a good dad, especially not growing up with one. He said he learned from me and his dad. His dad taught him what not to do. What about the sigle black fathers raising children. Believe me they do exist. Why always concentrate on the negative. Show the world that there are many outstanding black men out there who are smart, intelligent, loving and kind.

Name: Penelope
Comment: RealGA...I'm so sorry you are going through that. I'm sure you are just beside yourself in ways we cannot describe, so you certainly have my prayers, and I pray for your son. I wish there was more I could do, but I wouldn't even know where to begin or how to advise you.

Name: ShayLove
Comment: Good Mornin!!!! Cameo...Just like Candy...I feel it when she walks even when she talks it takes over me!!!

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: Chicago Tribune reporter 12:29 AM CDT, July 25, 2008 On any other day, Sobia Ahmed would opt to forgo many of the snacks on offer at Six Flags Great America in Gurnee. To perform the Islamic prayers she recites five times a day, she likely would slip onto a secluded path at the amusement park or look for solace under a shady tree for a few furtive minutes. But this Saturday Ahmed and her family will eat and pray at their leisure in the park with hundreds of other Muslims from the Chicago area who plan to visit the sprawling entertainment center for a day catered especially to them. For the fourth time since 2004, Six Flags in Gurnee is sponsoring Muslim Day, bringing in outside caterers to provide halal food and turning an amphitheater into a makeshift mosque to accommodate Muslims who observe dietary laws and strict prayer schedules. Muslims who plan to go say they appreciate the sense of community the event creates as well as the opportunity to talk about Islam with curious non-Muslims at the park. "If you go on regular days, it's kind of tough to find a place to pray," said Ahmed, a stay-at-home mom from Bolingbrook who has attended previous Muslim Days at Six Flags with her husband and five children. "Usually we can't eat the food, but now we can." Started in New Jersey by an interethnic Muslim organization called the Islamic Circle of North America, Muslim Day at Six Flags has grown from a one-time gig focusing on youth—which took place a few days before the Sept. 11, 2001, tragedy—into a popular annual family event at several of the company's theme parks, Muslim organizers and park representatives said. One of the New Jersey organizers died in the World Trade Center, which stalled efforts to organize a Muslim Day in 2002, according to Raza Farrukh, the Islamic group's New Jersey representative. Today the New Jersey event is so big that the organizers typically buy a day at the park for Muslims only. There are also special days for Muslims at parks around Atlanta, Boston and Los Angeles, in addition to Chicago, organizers said.

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: In Gurnee, the park will remain open to all, but the day has steadily attracted more and more Muslims. According to park officials, 345 Muslims attended the first year; nearly 1,400 came in 2006. The event was canceled for logistical reasons last year. This year, organizers say they hope to attract as many as 4,000, though park officials expect about 1,200. "The kids love it and adults also," said Zulfiqar Khan, a Pakistani immigrant living in Plainfield who is coordinating this year's event. "We can socialize, have some ethnic food, just create a sense of community." Six Flags also has created special events for Catholics, Baptists and Methodists, park officials said, and Episcopalians have booked the amphitheater for prayer services. Traditional Polish dancers joined in the park's opening ceremonies during a recent Polish Day, and last week the park supplied American Sign Language interpreters during a "hard-of-hearing-awareness day." For the Muslims' prayer needs, the park chose an amphitheater near the restrooms so worshipers can perform ablutions beforehand. Two outside caterers will provide food that complies with Islamic standards of preparation.

Name: Penelope
Comment: Byrdee, I agree. But it is really scary that it is so much easier for young black men not to succeed. And, it is harder for them to find gainful employment. That is the real side. My son is in the Navy, but I pray so much for him, because even though I think he's a great young man, I know there is a world out there that is against him.

Name: Shortey71
Comment: Morning Peeps and Happy Friday!!! I see the board is kinda dead this morning. Regarding the BIA segment, I'll have to agree with the posters yesterday who said that they're not sure who the targeted audience was. It certainly wasn't us!!! I also want to say that Asize you are a fool. "cause this muffin top is not KEWT". I swear that has got to be my favroite commercial right about now. Does anyone have plans for the weekend? I'm looking forward to this weekend. My best friend is coming up tomorrow and we are going to Raging Waters and then my boys are off to Grandma's and Grandad's on Sunday so I'll have a free week. Other then that, um CALI??? Where you at girl??? We are a cyberfamily and hopefully it can stay that way. Of course not EVERYONE will get along all the time, but damn can we at least try??? **stepping off of podium**

Name: byrdee
Comment: RealGA. Please do not blame yourself. All a parent can to is teach, guide and pray that they listen. Once they become grown they make choices whether good or bad. And as parents we worry constantly. Now I know that there are organizations that claim they will help. Why not contact 100 Black men and see if there is anything they can do or if they can lead you to help. You will be in my prays always.

Name: RealGAPeach
Comment: >thanks Penelope. That's one reason I don't post as much as I used to. Just too much on my mind. Today is especially a hard day. Now he needs his family- we're in the same place that we've always been but his friends on the street meant more. And they're all pointing their fingers at the other each other. I can only hope and pray that this will be resolved correctly but we all know what justice is like in this system. Now that he's got time to really think he's doing the woulda,coulda shoulda. But you just didn't listen to me.

Name: YLawdY
Comment: RealGa...my heart goes out to you. You have done your part and while you will always love and support your son, he has to walk this walk on his own. You shouldn't be worried about not having the money for a top of the line lawyer. This isn't your fight and you have other children that haven't made these choices that need you more at this point.

Name: RealGAPeach
Comment: >all- I know and think these very same thoughts too. I've just got to learn to put things in the right place... and not let it worry me to the grave. It has led me to high blood pressure and you all know that I was so proud of not having to take any medicine for anything and last week my doctor put me on something.

Name: YLawdY
Comment: Muslim day, huh? Don't go yall. It's a trap to get a bunch of yall in the same place at the same time. Think World Trade Center. Bush is still in office and aint got nothing to lose.

Name: asize12
Comment: <<cybersistahug>> realpeach, hugs to you sis because you truly need prayer & support to get you through these difficult times. Just know that you did your best as a mother and it IS NOT your fault that your son went astray. All you can do is pray for him...my son is 12 and although he appears to be a good kid, who knows what's gonna happen in the future. I try not to worry about how hard it's gonna be for him as a black man in Amerikkka and how maybe even though hubby & I are doing our best to raise him right, he STILL may go astray. All I can do is pray that the streets won't get him because he has a mind of his own and HE has to be the one to make the right decisions. So, keep your head up sweetie, even though times are looking bleek right now, it's gon' be alright...

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: I Cannot Do This Alone.... God, early in the morning I cry to you. Help me to pray... And to concentrate my thoughts on you: I cannot do this alone. In me there is darkness, But with you there is light; I am lonely, but you do not leave me; I am feeble in heart, but with you there is help; I am restless, but with you there is peace. In me there is bitterness, but with you there is patience; I do not understand your ways, But you know the way for me… Restore me to liberty, And enable me to live now That I may answer before you and before me. Lord, whatever this day may bring, Your name be praised.

Name: Shortey71
Comment: REALGA, you are in my prayers. May the lord continue to deliver you through these troubled times. I honestly don't know what else to say because I don't know what I would do if I were in that situation. We can all give our advise but unfortunately it is not helping this situation, HOWEVER prayer is powerful and you will continue to get lots of that from us. Keep your head up and continue to give it to the LORD. He will definitely see you through this.

Name: YLawdY
Comment: Cali...you're back!

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: Ylawd' not really... I just wanted to share that prayer... peace!

Name: Penelope
Comment: Cali...you're not boycotting us are you?

Name: asize12
Comment: See ylawd, you jinxed cali's return! *slaps ylawd in the back of the neck and runs*

Name: MsFresno
Comment: what up yall. I cant believe WIll got eliminated of SYTUCD.

Name: rayne
Comment: I need a drink!

Name: Shortey71
Comment: CTFU @ rayne, where are you and what time is it??? Cali, bring yo *ss back here dammit! LOL.....

Name: queeniebunz
Comment: re: JCP - UGH!!! I CAN'T STAND THAT MOFO!!!! The funny thing is that one thing he said, I could agree with - "if you don't want to get up for selling crack, don't sell crack"...BUT here is where we differ. I am a student of people. It is easy for us on the outside looking in to speak about living in a bad part of town. We were taught right from wrong. We were taught to respect the police, educators and other adults, period. We were taught to respect and even fear our parents. People from homes not like that do not have that guidance. When you are raised in an environment where "wrong is right" - selling drugs is how you pay the bills or section 8 is the norm, how can you realistically expect a child from that environment to live by the same standards???

Name: queeniebunz
Comment: ...to continue w/what I was saying, I do volunteer work in SE Washington. I was facilitating a workshop and we were talking about the future - getting jobs, etc. and one young lady said that she was just going to go on section 8. I told her that section 8 was only for people who didn't make a certain amount of money and hopefully if she studies and works towards the career goal she shared she won't need section 8. But inside, I was like WTF???!!!

Name: YLawdY
Comment: *tripping asize12 on my way by* I aint did nothin to Cali.

Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >MsFresno - man, I was very upset at that. Dude is bad - he can do anything. I am sure Debbie will take care of him but I wanted to keep watching Will. I'm definitely going to see the tour in B'more when they come here. I wish I had seen it last year. I think the dancers were better overall last year. The last 2 standing - Audra (I think) and Danny - off the hook! But I couldn't figure out if Danny was swishy or not. Not that it mattered. I just enjoyed watching him dance and his body - WOW.

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: *peeks in room and throws water balloon at shortey*

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: queeniebunz>>>>just my opinion and do not take this the wrong way. I grew up in the projects of Chicago, went to school with deadly gang bangers, saw prostitutes up close, have had friends killed while I was growing up. Have seen ugly, but in spite of all of that, myself and several friends made it out, went to college, graduated and made great things of ourselves. It is parenting that really makes a difference, just because you are poor or what society considers poor does not mean you have to end up like that. You make do with what you have and get better. I am sure there are several people on the board who say the same thing. My parents (and later my mom) just stayed on my butt. That is the one difference. Parents.

Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Queenie..I literally wanted to reach through the screen and slap the shyt out of JCP. I wonder did he realize how his commentary would seem AFTER they edited it..or maybe he didn't care. Excellent points u made though. Maybe the people disenchanted wanted to see a series titled "being middle class black in america." Oh wait, they did show that. Guess they should've let the low class coverage out of it. *shrugging*

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: This a friend of our's family... so sad...Sacramento County official says CPS should have protected slain boy By Marjie Lundstrom and Sam Stanton - mlundstrom@sacbee.com Sacramento County's Child Protective Services "could have – and should have – done more" to protect a 4-year-old boy, beaten to death this week despite the agency's attempts to intervene, a top county official acknowledged Thursday. Lynn Frank, director of the Department of Health and Human Services, which oversees CPS, said the social worker involved has been placed on paid administrative leave, pending further review. "It just amazes and horrifies me that we had another death," Frank told The Bee. "We're going to have to look deeply at what we do, and see what we can do differently." The agency will make internal changes, Frank said, including an immediate re-examination of all 921 current investigations involving children 5 and under. CPS supervisors will accompany social workers on investigations over the next 30 days to evaluate their skills and provide training as needed, Frank said. And, case reviews will be increased from quarterly to monthly. "We've just got to figure out what we can do to ensure that these children are safe," she said. The death Monday of Jahmaurae Allen came exactly five weeks after CPS opened a case on the child for suspected abuse. A medical provider contacted the agency about suspicious bruising, according to sources. Frank said an emergency response worker was assigned to investigate in June. The boy and his two siblings were not removed from the home, and early Monday the child was found unresponsive in his mother's Foothill Farms apartment. He died at the hospital later of massive head and internal injuries. The mother's boyfriend, 26-year-old Jonathan Lamar Perry, has been arrested in the boy's death – the fourth time this year a child has died in the county of abuse or neglect despite CPS intervention. The 6-foot-4-inch, 250-pound former security guard is being held at the Sacramento County jail on murder and child endangerment charges. He was under observation in a psychiatric cell Thursday after he indicated a desire to harm himself, Sacramento County sheriff's officials said. His arraignment was rescheduled for today.

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: The dead child's siblings, a 3-year-old boy and an 18-month-old girl, have been taken into protective custody. Frank said in a prepared statement that a preliminary investigation into the county's handling of the case found that the emergency response worker had "worked in isolation and did not follow established department procedures." The worker failed to make the required contact with the reporting party or with medical personnel, Frank said. The worker also failed to review the case with the supervisor, or make contact with people familiar with the family. "In the majority of cases, records show our workers make the right decisions," Frank said in her statement. "In the case of Jahmaurae Allen, we did not adhere to our own high standards." The caseworker is not being named because of county personnel policy, Frank said. The apparent breakdown between CPS policy and practice in the field was cited recently as a key concern by members of two prominent citizens' groups, who investigate child deaths in the county and oversee CPS. The Child Death Review Team and the CPS Oversight Committee warned the county Board of Supervisors last year that CPS must emphasize child safety over keeping troubled families together. That was the mandate given CPS in the aftermath of 3-year-old Adrian Conway's gruesome death in 1996, which led to numerous changes within the agency. Since then, the agency's budget has nearly quadrupled and its staffing has doubled. Last month, The Bee published results of a five-month investigation into CPS, which revealed numerous shortcomings, particularly in the areas of risk %*$essment, supervision and training, and accountability for mistakes. At the time, Frank and CPS Director Laura Coulthard assured The Bee that much progress had been made since Adrian's death, and that adequate policies were in place. But both cited heavy caseloads and high turnover as persistent problems. Frank cited caseloads again Thursday, saying the emergency response program received an "inordinate amount" of calls in June. The social worker assigned to Jahmaurae received 24 new cases in June, in addition to an existing caseload, she said. "I'm certainly not making excuses, because there is no excuse for what happened," Frank said. "But I can't even imagine how you would deal with that many cases."

Name: musbdherbs
Comment: being raised by middle class parents or those who simply stay on ur azz offers a better possibility of success..it is not a guarantee. There will forever be those who fail. The superintendent's middle son is an example of such. Their story IS an example of black life in america.

Name: naturalsista
Comment: RealGaPeach, 3 years ago I was in the position you are in now with my then know-it-all son. I would like to share my family's experiences with you in the hope that it may help you and your family. Is there a way to contact you?

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: queeniebunz>>>>but by the same token, I have been around cats who almost anyone would consider "upper class", vacation home (and this is the 70's), ivy league accessible education, prep school and this guy fell off the wagon and is on crack. So you can have parenting and still fall through.

Name: Shortey71
Comment: **wringing out shirt**, Cali, if this is what it takes to get you back, then line me up and let's play dodge balloon!!!

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: Don Lemon CNN Anchor It’s 8 in the morning and I’m at flight camp for high school students in Georgia. Most of the students are black teens who claim a real passion for flying. In just a few minutes I get to accompany 17-year old Brandon Henry on his maiden voyage behind the flight controls. He doesn’t seem nervous at all, but I certainly am. I have not eaten breakfast. He offers me peanut M & M’s. I don’t think it’s such a good idea to eat right now. Brandon is a remarkable young man. I admire his passion and commitment to flying at such a young age. What an incredible opportunity. And it made me think about where I was at his age. A training program like this for minority teens wasn’t an option for me in the 1970’s in my small Louisiana town. Instead of training to be a pilot or an astronaut or a journalist, at 17 I was trying to not make the same mistakes that some of my older male relatives had made; drugs, babies, jail. There’s not much to do in a small town but get into trouble. Also by 17, I had become quite adept at navigating between three different worlds; the light skin black world, the dark skin black world and the white world. Most southern blacks are very familiar with this. But more about that later. Don’t get me wrong, I came from a good family. Problem was that some of my peers did not. But, my grandmother watched me like a hawk. She was my and my two older sister’s babysitter and co-parent for much of our youth. “Where are you going?” “Who’s that boy’s people?” “Did you write that paper?” Those were the standard questions. I didn’t appreciate it then, but boy do I now. THANK YOU MAME (pronounced mah-me), god rest her soul! My mother will tell you I idolized my grandmother. We watched daytime soap operas together. Even as late as high school my grandmother and I would have sleep overs at her house. We’d watch old black and white movies until the wee hours. We listened to late night radio shows. For hours we’d sit in rocking chairs on her front porch and watch the people and cars go by. Then we’d read bedtime stories together. Except, I’d read to her. She only had a fifth grade education. She died of Alzheimer’s in 1998. I miss her every day of my life.

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: My grandmother looked White. To this day we still aren’t sure of the exact mixture of her race. Her mother died in child birth. Her husband, my grandfather was brown and of African and French descent. They had three daughters. The middle one is my mother. I have two sisters. My father died when I was seven. My mom remarried. He died 23 years later. My mother is my best friend. Mom, single at the time, chose an all Black, Catholic grade school for me where there was a substantial focus on “light skin” and “good hair.” There I learned a respectable knowledge of reading, writing and arithmetic. More importantly I learned that not only did white people discriminate against black people; black people discriminated against each other. Skin that was lighter than a “brown paper bag” guaranteed entrance into Creole fraternities, sororities and historically black colleges and universities. Yes, the same HBCU’s still exist today. In the Black community universities like Fisk, Spelman and Howard, among others, were openly referred to as “brown paper bag” universities. Darker blacks went to ‘Skegee,’ short for Tuskegee. It was, and still is, shameful. In my home town, the big highway with its parallel railroad track was the dividing line. The blacks lived on the west side. The whites, on the east side. We all shared the grocery store, bank, post office and such. That’s where I first heard a white person call me a N***er. When we moved to a new home in a “white” neighborhood some parents refused to allow their children to play with me. On Sunday the Ku Klux Klan would hand out paraphernalia on the same street as my high school. The majority white high school had only been integrated a few years before I attended. I’m not sure how it happened, but while the Klan did its thing out front; inside, my classmates were electing me Senior Class President. Only the second in the school’s history. Progress. But to this day I believe the South offers Americans a most accelerated lesson on race relations. The conundrum then was not fitting in with either the light skins or the dark skins or the whites. I had the light skin but i didn’t have the “good” hair. Sometimes I could “pass” for a light skin, especially in the winter months when my skin would lighten up. But only if my sister applied a chemical blow out to my hair. It never lasted, and always turned my brown hair bright red. Of course there were the usual infractions from whites like getting pulled over by the cops because I was driving a nice car, getting followed around by security guards in retail stores, being ignored by restaurant and bar staff. Sadly I had to learn to accept it, even expect it. But it somehow cut to the quick when black people did it. It hurt me deeply. Hey, whose side are you on anyway? - is what I wanted to ask out loud. I never did.

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: **sprays shortey' with SuperSoaker** LOL

Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >OSB/Musb - I want to clarify because my lil bro and I were discussing this last night and I think he also misunderstood. In no way do I think it impossible for a person to succeed despite their environment. I also know a lot of middle class people who had everything offered to them so much that they made their own trouble. Those are the ones that truly tick me off, but I digress. All I am saying is what you are saying - it is the parents. And if your ma takes drug money from her oldest boy to pay the bills, that's your example. If your ma is 2nd generation section 8/independence card then that's your example. If your ma supports herself by being a gold digger (and that's at any socioeconomic level) that's your example to follow. And there are a lot of women who are raised to believe that they can earn their keep between their legs. It is hard to get out of that kind of living - especially if others around you are in the same mindset. And even in such a situation it is possible to escape that mindset. I'm just saying that before people judge people in a really bad situation, they need to really try and understand the mindset that perpetuates this dysfunction. And it's not about visiting them. It's about actually trying to wrap your mind around what they've been taught by the models they have and trying to see how you would "learn yourself" out of that way of life when you have no other example. Sometimes there is another positive example for them to model themselves after. Sometimes it's a person from church or a special program or a teacher that inspires a child to think differently. But really, you have to try and understand people before you can be an agent of change. Because if you don't, and you talk down to them, your time is wasted and you are not going to be a productive part of the solution. That's all I'm saying. I always try to fully understand who I'm dealing with in any situation before I pop off my mouth as dumb-azzed JCP did. *balling up fists to punch him*

Name: Shortey71
Comment: Interesting post mustbdherbs. Thanks for sharing. **goes to mail truck and raises door, brings out Super Super Soaker** Cali do we have a problem? I said, DO.. WE.. HAVE.. A.. PROBLEM!!! LOL......

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: LOL@SHORTEY' Naw we' aint got no problem.... **launches water balloon grenades**

Name: Penelope
Comment: Y'all need to watch your aim with those balloons...don't be messing up nobody's hair in here!

Name: asize12
Comment: I'm so bored...I've been just browsing IMDB.com. Did y'all know that Malcolm-Jamal Warner was married to Charmaine? Wow, learn something new err'day...

Name: Shortey71
Comment: LOL @ Penelope. Nope didn't know that Asize. You talking about Charmaine from A Different World? I always liked her.

Name: asize12
Comment: Yep, they were married in 2002. He was married to Michelle Thomas at first (Justine from Cosby Show) but she died from stomach cancer in '98.

Name: YLawdY
Comment: Yall bet not get water on my silk sandals.

Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Queenie...Oh nooooooooo! I got ur point. I didn't thik you were castigating folk. I actually agree w/what you said. I think most people fail to recognize how your enivironment can shape you and while there are those of us who "get out" there are just as many who don't. Much of it has to do w/parents...the other is simply things beyond our control.

Name: Shortey71
Comment: Wait Asize, Charmaine didn't play on A Different World, did she? Didn't she play on The Cosby Show and Malcolm and Eddie? I thought you were talking about Kim from a Different World, the dark skinned sista but now I know who you are talking about. And yeah I remember Justine too. Man I can't believe it's been 10 years since she passed.

Name: YLawdY
Comment: IS THIS WHY HE SAID HE WOULDN'T BE INTERESTED IN THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION: There's more drama for former presidential candidate John Edwards. We mentioned earlier in the week that the National Enquirer caught Johnny boy at the Beverly Hills Hotel on Tuesday, where he was meeting up late at night with his alleged mistress and%*$!(@!( baby. On Thursday, the rag filed a criminal complaint with the Beverly Hills Police Department charging that hotel security acted unlawfully while the Enquirer reporters were trying to question the former senator. A new report claims that Edwards now could be contacted by police to give an eyewitness account of what occurred. Juicy! As the Enquirer reporters tried to question Edwards, he ran down a hallway and ducked into a men's public bathroom. The paper's reps attempted to follow him in and Edwards pushed the door shut from inside. Hotel security showed up and intervened. The reporters charge that not only did one security guard threaten to break their camera but that security also violated several statutes of the California Penal Code, including false imprisonment and preventing a guest from entering land. The Enquirer reporters were registered guests at the hotel, while Edwards was not! Looks like the former senator stepped into a deeep pile of poo that's going to be hard to get out of. If he's 'guilty' he should just hold his hand up and admit it. The truth will come out!

Name: Penelope
Comment: OK...forgive me...have you ever been two minutes from slapping a co-worker? If this heffa tells me one more time that the answer I gave to her question is wrong, I gonna scream. WTF did you ask me for? Know so mucking fuch!

Name: RealGAPeach
Comment: >Naturalsista- msarmor2@yahoo.com Thanks

Name: Shortey71
Comment: YLawd?? Can we get a song of the day??? Asize, where's our word of the day???

Name: asize12
Comment: >shorty, Charmaine played on like the last season of A Different World, you know, when Jada Pinkett was on there.

Name: asize12
Comment: >shorty, it's way ^. I did it early this time;-) You know I'm the procrastinating queen...Well, if ya didn't know, you know now! LOL

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: *passes out plastic* *resumes tossing water balloons*

Name: YLawdY
Comment: I gave one way up there *pointing up* but in honor of Penny, we're going to change it to "Slap" by Luda......"I feel like slapping a nucca today....."

Name: JFromMO
Comment: asize - Did he and Michelle Thomas actually marry? I thought they only dated.

Name: asize12
Comment: >jfrom, according to one of the websites, they were married...

Name: JFromMO
Comment: Oh okay. On IMDB on both of their pages, it says they dated. I knew I remembered reading that. It was so sad when she died. I remember that she said she didn't want treatment because she thought she might not be able to have children. But now she still can't. So sad.

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: did anyone hear about this...... Black and white twins: Brothers from the same mother... http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/17/120506 1.aspx?GT1=43001

Name: ShayLove
Comment: Ok...I'm drowning in all the BIA talk!!! Is there another subject we can discuss? It IS FRIDAY!!!! What's everyone doing this weekend? Song...how bout Hey Mr. DJ....by Jane(sp) It's Friday night and the weekend's here, I need to unwind where's the party?? Hey, Hey Mr. DJ???

Name: Shortey71
Comment: LOL @ Cali! Oh my bad Asize, I'm scolling too fast. YLawd, I like the original song of the day but I do feel what Penelope is saying so "Slap" it is. Penelope, what about when your co worker asks a question and you take the time out to answer it and then they go ask somebody else and get the exact same answer?? That's burns me up too.

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: ShayLove >> I hear ya on BIA.. but just one thought that came back to me... it was said that over a million black men are in prison!!! and folks want to know why there the black family is in shambles.... okay, thats all! LOL

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: moving on... did yall see the photo of Uncle Luke and his new bride?

Name: Shortey71
Comment: ShayLove, Zhane was my JAM. It still is. My favroite on that album is sending my love to you, praying that you are home, sealing it with a kiss, sending my love.....Awww man, **looking for Zhane CD**

Name: asize12
Comment: >shay, yeah, it seems like we've been having the best convos during the beginning of the week! I'm actually about to get off in 30 min. Me & hubby are going to my cousin's surprise 30th bday party. It's a "black & white" party so I gotta make sure that I find something to wear. Plus, I'm gettin' my feet done @ 2pm...So, I get to play dress-up & be grown & sexy tonight;-)

Name: ShayLove
Comment: Yea Shorty they were the junk!!! (did I just say that?)Or how bout Xscape(sp again) Just Kickin it....or Understanding!!! Toni, Tone, Tony...it never rains in Southern California or Troop...Spread my wings....

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: CHTU@this nutt...never heard of him, but dang.....Man Told Screener He Had Colostomy Bag, U.S. Attorney Says. SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- A Vallejo-based rapper was arrested earlier this month after apparently trying to hide 6,000 Ecstasy pills in his clothes before boarding a plane, U.S. Attorney McGregor W. Scott said. Steven Noel Davison, 34, who performs under the names "PSD," "PSD tha Drivah," and "Stevie Dee," was trying to board an ExpressJet flight at Sacramento International Airport on July 14, when he was pre-screened by the Transportation Security Administration agents. Screeners did a pat search on him and found a bulge in his pants inside his inner right leg, authorities said. Davison told the agents it was a colostomy bag, then tried to leave twice before he was taken to a private screening area, Scott said. While in handcuffs, Davison took a bag out of his pants that contained 1,000 pills. Agents suspected that the pills were MDMA, or Ecstasy, because of their color and imprint of a female body, Scott said. Later, a screener found 5,000 MDMA pills stuffed into one of the corners of the privacy room where Davison was being held. Davison appeared Thursday in federal court, Scott said, but has not been sentenced.

Name: ShayLove
Comment: 12...that sounds like fun...you should wear some high sandals(maybe wedge)...so everyone can get a full view of your toes...just don't be late..I had an aunt ruin my other aunt's surprise party because she was late....blak folk...boy I tell ya!!!

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: It's been three weeks since his blue-eyed baby debuted in this world, but Thomas Beatie – better known around the world as the Pregnant Man – can already say this about his daughter's personality: "She's easygoing and mellow and intelligent." On June 29 at 8:55 p.m., Beatie, 34, a former female beauty pageant contestant, made cultural history as perhaps the first legally transgender male to give birth, bringing into the world a 9 lbs., 5 oz. baby girl named Susan Juliette. "She's so precious, I just can't stop staring at her," Thomas tells PEOPLE in his first interview since he and wife Nancy returned with their bundle from Bend, Oregon's St. Charles Medical Center. "Just holding her is the best feeling in the world." Susan – named after Thomas's mother and conceived through artificial insemination with donor sperm – arrived after 40 hours of labor, with Nancy at Thomas's side acting as his coach. "When Susan finally came out, it was like in slow motion," says Thomas. "I was full of wonder." Echoes Nancy: "There were tears of joy." Both father and daughter came through the birth in perfect health. "I weigh two pounds less than I did before I got pregnant," adds Thomas. "And I don't have a single stretch mark!" At home, the couple is adjusting to their new nightly schedule: Nancy breastfeeding (by induced lactation, a process using hormones and physical stimulation with a breast pump) and Thomas keeping company while watching TV. Crows Thomas, "Susan is a miracle! And we're finally the family we've been dreaming of."

Name: khufu
Comment: hey

Name: ShayLove
Comment: OMG Cali!! That story makes me want to puke.... I mean, I'm all for to each his or her own...but I do not believe in this type of thing...children have enough to deal with by just being children and the world as it is today...I feel sorry for this kid..... This situation just makes me so uneasy, like for some reason, I feel like this 'man' is in so much trouble...you know how when you were kids and someone did something like dropped or broke something...and you got that feeling like **pointing** OOOOOOOHHH you're in trouble!!!!

Name: Shortey71
Comment: ShayLove, my favroite Escape (sp too???) is Who can I run too, to share this empty space with laughter. Who can I run to when I need love? I was listening to Jade last night. What ever happened to them?? And I love Toni, Tone, Tony, they're from my hometown, the big O.

Name: ShayLove
Comment: more like I want to run to church

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,388501,00.html

Name: ShayLove
Comment: Shortey, I love them too!!!I listened to 'Tiny's' songs on her myspace page...they are pretty hot... What about SWV It's about time....for love.....or was that just Coko??

Name: yelleyw
Comment: I'm sorry that is just weird. I feel for that poor baby.

Name: asize12
Comment: >shay, all I wear is 3"+ heels! I love sandals and I love my feet (even if there is a damn corn tryna grow on my right toe next to my pinkie). I'm getting a french pedicure, normally I do pinks, but I wanna do something different. Okay, so I'm out for the day kids, you guys have a blessed weekend! *sounding like Pam & holding up to fingers* PEEAAACE!!!

Name: ShayLove
Comment: hey yelley..this weather is beautiful today huh? I LOVE it....can't wait to get off

Name: Penelope
Comment: OK...I did not slap the cow, I just took a walk. Heff git on my nerves. I happen to walk in the break room where two other co-workers were, and they said the same thing about my co-worker, asking quetions just so you can tell you you're wrong, even though you're right. Can't stand insecure b!tches. OK...I'm better, but I need some advil.

Name: Shortey71
Comment: yelleyw, I always wanted to know how you got your screen name? Care to share??? As yall can see me no workey today.....

Name: khufu
Comment: dr barbara ann teer passed away

Name: Penelope
Comment: Awe...I know Size12 is prolly gone, but a black and white party sounds so fun...but I would have to wear some colored shoes. And speaking of, I cleaned up on a bad-a pair of Marc Fishers last night...4" sling backs but with the thick heel. The shoes are black patent, but the heel is grey patent. Going back to Macy's this weekend!!!!

Name: RealGAPeach
Comment: Naturalsista..let me know you got the alternate address. Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you

Name: yelleyw
Comment: SHAY>>>Its beautiful out here. I went out for lunch and had my first gyro ever! It was yummy. SHORTEY>>> Yelley is my nickname, my baby sisters couldn't pronounce Danielle as babies and it stuck. I threw on the W cause of my last name.

Name: Jacque
Comment: OSB, that story is SICK, SICK, SICK!!! I agree with the deputy - - - those dogs should be euthanized, I can not believe they were deemed to be adoptable!

Name: SpecialK
Comment: Penelope: Here's a sure way to make that idiot co-worker stop asking you stupid questions. Tell her "I don't know" and leave it at that!! Works every time.

Name: ShayLove
Comment: YELLEY- I LOVE Gyro's....i get italiand ressing instead of that cucumber mess....But watch cause your breath will be KICKIN!!! BTW did you know that Steak Salads are native to this area?? (at least the way that we know) I learned that not too long ago..that and Snyder's chips...

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: Okay question for all you business travellers. And this is something that happened. We had dinner, party of 8, total bill with drinks was 410.00. Now since this is going to be expensed anyway, the guy who paid decided not to leave a tip in addition to what was charged on the bill. People were clowning him in the office this week. What would any of you have done? Extra tip or no tip? She definitely deserved and service was exceptional but that is because she knew the deal that we were on company business.

Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Penelope - I'm not trying to one up you with a work situation but allow me to introduce myself. My name is "Miss Sofia" and my boss, Ms. Millie is about a step away from being thrown down the stairs. It's not that she offers me her leftover lunch when she comes back to the office. And it's not that she actually made me drive to Ft. Belvoir with her because she didn't know where the place was despite her dumb azz having a GPS system. And it's not even that she makes me stand there in her office like a slave awaiting orders while she plays on her computer. It's all of the above plus the power tripping and the racial slurs and racial jokes and her whispering to me that she's gonna vote for Obama, as if she'd doing me a favor...So, if you are slapping and I can hire you literally as a "hit woman" to hit her upside her head, just let me know how I pay you. Paypal, maybe? *gritting teeth, uncurling fists*

Name: yelleyw
Comment: Shay>> Girll I'm chewing on gum as I'm typin cause it does have your breath kickin!! Yeah I didn't notice that until I was talking to my friend from South Carolina once and told her I was eating a steak salad. When I told her what was in it she thought I was crazy mainly because of the fries. I thought everybody knew about them

Name: BluLuv
Comment: OSB > the rest of you should have left a tip on the table.

Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Jacque/OSB - re: the dog story...well, I have a twisted sense of humor. And, as I see it, naming the dog Lucky is freakin' hilarious to me cuz lil dude was gettin' lucky for real! LOL! But aside from that, why should the dogs get euthanized? When Buddy and Lucky asked for a bone, they didn't know Ms Owner was gonna consider "bone" to be a verb. It's not their fault. And on top of that, because some sick-azzed human got her bone on, they get their nuts cut off??? How is that fair? Who was running the pound, Jesse?

Name: JFromMO
Comment: OSB - Since it was a party of 8, the gratuity was automatically added in, right? If that was the case, then no, I would not have left an additional tip.

Name: BluLuv
Comment: For me, when a person picks up the check, I kick for the tip. It just makes sense to me since I did not have to pay.

Name: BluLuv
Comment: I thought the automatic gratuity charge gets split with the kitchen help and the tip on the table goes to the waiter server.

Name: Shortey71
Comment: OSB, I agree w/ JFrom, the tip is usually included but if not, I personally would have left one and so should everyone else who ate for free.

Name: Jacque
Comment: OSB, since the tip was included in the bill, the rest of you should have paid the additional, especially since you said you received exceptional service.

Name: Shortey71
Comment: BluLuv, it depends on where you work. I use to be a waitress before I stumbled into insurance.

Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >OSB - I waited tables all through college and then part time when I was teaching for extra money. My take on it is that if the tip was included, as it usually is for parties 8 and up, the server was probably happy with what she/he got. And in many cases, when the tip is added automatically for large parties, it's 18%. I don't think a lot of people realize the pay structure of being a server. If you drop 15% on the table, the server doesn't get 15%. The server has to split tips with the bartender (1%/anywhere from $2-5), the busboy/backserver (2% anywhere from $3-20), and the foodrunner/expeditor ($2-$5 or so) if there is one. And, in some places they also split w/the hostess/maitre'd. All of that to say that is why the tip will be 18%. So when you do tip a server, keep in mind that he/she doesn't get it all. You can make a good amount of money waiting tables/bartending but believe me, it is hard work. Keep that in mind when you see your server get seated 4 tables at the same time and he/she gets frazzled. *thus ending my public service announcement - again dropping the mic and screaming "sexual chocolate"!*

Name: Jacque
Comment: Queeniebunz, I like your play on words. The reason why I think they should have been euthanized is because I think there has been a pattern set (I don't know how long this has been going on) where these dogs will expect this service from future owners.

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: We did leave a extra tip especially after he was clowning in the spot about it should be on the bill anyway. But thanks for all the advice.

Name: Penelope
Comment: Can y'all imagine some unsuspecting animal shelter employee being %*$aulted by those dogs? Its sad, but its kind of funny when you think about it.

Name: Penelope
Comment: Don't know if anyone knows of this story, but I saw the Dateline feature on the Last Lecture professor...check out his story on CNN.'Last lecture' professor taught others how to live Professor Randy Pausch was told he had terminal cancer and had just months to live. So he turned his final lecture at Carnegie Mellon University into a lesson on life. The speech became an internet sensation and sparked a best-selling book. He survived long past his doctor's expectations and became an inspiration to millions. Pausch died today.

Name: Jacque
Comment: Penelope, in regards to the dogs, that was what I was trying to say earlier.

Name: BluLuv
Comment: Shortey71 >thank you for the tip.

Name: Jacque
Comment: Penelope, I actually saw Professor Pausch's lecture on Oprah and found out earlier today of his passing on AOL.

Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Jacque/Penelope - as long as the employees/volunteers don't crawl around on their hands and knees butterball butt-azzed nekked, I don't think there will be a problem.

Name: Jacque
Comment: LOL at queeniebunz!

Name: Penelope
Comment: Queenie>>You wrong! Jacque>>I had been following Prof Pausche and praying for him as well. I caught him on Oprah too. I like the advice he left to his daughter: The think about men is that you should ignore everything they say and just pay attention to everything they do.

Name: rayne
Comment: Shortey71 - I think it was about 11:30am when I said I needed a drink. This dam# job & the people I work with make you want to keep a bottle under your desk.

Name: CaliRedbone
Comment: Today is the official Slap Your Irritating Co-workers Holiday: Do you have a co-worker who talks nonstop about nothing, working your last nerve with tedious and boring details that you don't care about? Do you have a co-worker who ALWAYS screws up stuff creating MORE work for you? Do you have a co-worker who is SOOO obnoxious, when he/she enters a room, everyone else clears it? Well, today is SLAP YOUR IRRITATING CO-WORKER DAY! There are the rules you must follow: * You can only slap one person per hour - no more. * You can slap the same person again if they irritate you again in the same day. * You are allowed to hold someone down as other co-workers take their turns slapping the irritant. * No weapons are allowed * If questioned by a supervisor [or police, if the supervisor is the irritant], you are allowed to LIE, LIE, LIE! Now, study the rules, break out your list of folks that you want to slap the living day lights out of and get slapping.....have a great day. DISCLAIMER: This is for humor only. If you are offended then please make a big deal out of it and you will be added to the list for this holiday. Thank you

Name: cuteleggs
Comment: I watched BIA with my son (13 yrs. old). He didn't want to watch it and we did watch the first half together. You know teenagers want to be doing something else. When it was said that whether a black man has a degree, diploma, or conviction they had vitually the same chance of acquiring employment I let my son leave the room. He does not need the hear that graduating from H.S. or college don't mean jack where a black man is concerned.

Name: YLawdY
Comment: Since they neutered the dogs, it shouldn't be a problem.

Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: A MIAMI bank has moved to foreclose on hip-hop producer Scott Storch's $10 million manse, reports the Palm Beach Post, which obtained records from Miami-Dade County. Storch - who shot to fame working with Dr. Dre, Christina Aguilera and Beyoncé - signed for two SunTrust Bank mortgages worth a combined $7.75 million on the house on Palm Island. According to the paper, the electric company also has a lien for $11,215 against Storch's home, and a security-system installer is waiting to collect $17,151.

Name: ShayLove
Comment: Shortey...what type of insurance? I work in the Health insurance field

Name: yelleyw
Comment: Dang today has been a crazy day I cant WAIT till my vacaation!! My coworker just got let go a half hour ago, the uber Christian lady. Please pray for her cause she was really a sweetheart.

Name: naturalsista
Comment: RealGAPeach, I got it.

Name: Penelope
Comment: Awe Yelleyw! In my Martin voice...dang...wha what wha happened to you co-worker? Did she get fired.

Name: Penelope
Comment: BTW on the BIA, CNN and Anderson have an excellent article on Lynn Whitfield's daughter grace...she's 16, beautiful, and speaks like she has a lot on sense, and spoke intelligently about being biracial in America! Loved it!!!!http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/25/i-am-neith er-black-nor-white-im-both/

Name: ShayLove
Comment: By All! Have a great weekend!!!

Name: yelleyw
Comment: Yeah she was not performing well so I can't blame them for firing her but she was a good person.

Name: Penelope
Comment: That's unfortunate Yelley...Older people who lose their job have really hard times finding another one. I hope she does ok.

Name: yelleyw
Comment: ALOHA FAMILY!! SEE YA ON THE 6th!!!!! *doing the hula outta the room*

Name: Shortey71
Comment: yelleyw, too bad being a good person didn't get the job done. I hope she finds something soon. I agree Penelope, for some reason it is harder for older people to find a job.

Name: Shortey71
Comment: See ya yelleyw, have fun!!

Name: Penelope
Comment: Bye y'all have a good weekend!!!

Name: Shortey71
Comment: See ya Penelope.

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