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huey
Comment: well, this "lyrical genius" has certainly squawked his azz into a pickel this time. although, i must say, people are giving him more attention than he deserves. he hasnt manufactured an intelligent thought on a consistant quarterly bases in his career. why start now....
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SoopDawg
Comment: While I think Ludacris was ignorant as hell for making this song,why are they giving rappers attention now? After all the year of rappers disrespecting women they decide to say something now that one of them has disrespected Hillary Clinton? They need to be questioned about this. Why is this the straw that broke the camel's back?
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huey
Comment: SoopDawg ---who are "they"? this isnt the first time rappers have been on the firing line. dont forget the sisters of spellman vs nelly (tipdrill), and al sharpton vs the interscope-labels, etc, c.deloris tucker vs 2pac and friends..and the list goes on until the break of dawn, and deservedly so imo.
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Harleyquinn
Comment: Co-sign huey!!!!
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MelodyCool
Comment: They're up in arms because a white woman is at the receiving end of lyrics. Everyone felt comfortable as long as black women were being disparaged.
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McNasty
Comment: Pick another battle! Not on our watch? Surely they jest - misogyny and total disrespect GREW on our watch and NOW they want to stem the tide?! Fukk outta here! Luda ain't no damn politician and why they continue to lend voice to this is beyond me! We have bigger fish to fry. Additionally I hope Luda tells them to go to hell! Sillary proved herself an irrelevant bytch by the level she stooped to get the nomination!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: co-sign all y'all
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cookyd
Comment: Co sign McNasty.
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musbdherbs
Comment: *mark this day in history* lol Melody I agree w/you 10000000% America never asked for an apology until a yt woman was called a bytch by a black man. Soop, ur right, after all these years? We already know why this is the straw. Look at the colors of the two involved...well three exactly. I wonder when are these women's group gonna come out in defense of Michelle Obama?
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Grace12_34
Comment: I co-sign with Huey. I noticed last night that Faux News (and even I'm going to call them that now--I thought we were just taking about O'Reilly, but it cuts deeper) showed Ludacris in the upper left-hand corner of the television screen, saying, "It's 10:00 p.m. Do you know where your children are?" To he11 with Ludacris. He's just another do-rag wearing ignorant- azzed rapper. He'll get my attention again when he comes up with CLEVER lyrics.
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cdub
Comment: Could it be the last straw. Luda gets mad love from me but he shot himself in the foot on this one. Like it or not, words still hurt and even it was targeted to a white women & old white man and its still hurtful. I beleive many more groups will be coming forward. Hopefully in front of his resturaunt.
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lucyrose
Comment: Well I guess they only speak for WHITE WOMEN ahhh to be BLACK in America!!!!
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PRDC
Comment: Agree totally to with MelodyCool. Why haven't they gone to TV where they say worse things. Now that a black man calls a white women a %*$!(...oh now we have to stop it...just like the N word. Just because a person calls U a whore, %*$!(.or whatever, its what you answer to. Grow the hell up people
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adifferentpath
Comment: if this is case, then can we get blanket condemnation from some other Hillary supporters along the way who've uttered the B*itch word? Let's keep it fair people. Also, those ladies from the View, just b*itching it up! Can we get some blanket condemnation for them too?? we have some important issues we're being distracted from while watching this fireworks display.
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adifferentpath
Comment: and MelodyCool, SHO YA RIGHT!!!
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barnone
Comment: y would you want someone 2 appologize 4 something they said when obviously they meant it. other than that they wouldn't have said it 2 begin w/.
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Southernbelle
Comment: What, Women voicing their causes to the Democratic Party??. I thought we all had common causes i.e gas, war, economy...How dare they bring up an individual cause. They're gonna force Obama to denounce women LOL. or is it just blacks that have common causes and not individual causes. Go figure.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: C'mon, you act like you're suprised at this...It's like huey said, this sh1t has been going on, and on, and on, and on, like hot butter on the pop, the pop, the pop, the popcorn...WTF was these wimmen then?...Yeah, it was Ok to call Latisha, Latasha, Latina, Lamosha beeitches...Imma agree with Melodycool on this one...even though she aint' down with the Good Senator and his Presidential bid....
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barnone
Comment: co-sign MELODY. where was/is the outrage when sistahs were/are disrespected? HERBS> what's the 3rd color?....green?
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queeniebunz
Comment: I don't see this the way y'all do. I see this as yet another way to trip up O. They don't care about women being called b*tches. They are taking this as an opportunity to put O on the spot. Nothing more, nothing less. If they cared that much, they wouldn't let their sons/daughters buy his music. Rap is mainstream now. Weezy, etc. didn't go gold/platinum by only black consumers. The demographic buying rap for years now is middle class white boys. They know their sons are listening to it because they see the warning labels Tipper Gore worked hard to get placed on the cd cases. These b*tches need to sit they azzes down and leave O alone. They're like a bunch of rabid dogs chasing O. They're mad because their baddest b*tch lost the championship fight to a black dog. (I'm picturing a scene in Michael Vick's now defunct dog fighting organization - maybe a cartoon)...They tried to trip up O was by attacking his trip overseas. They also tried to trip him up when Bush set that BS time table to get troops out of Iraq. That was to try and clean things up so O has no way of saying that Republicans are keeping the war going. I hope people don't think that was coincidental. Republicans are masters at spin. And they're masters at doing whatever it takes to stay in office. But none of it is working.
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Disillusioned_Jones
Comment: Interesting. Seems like every day this campaign lingers on the more segregated this nation is becoming. Race card, "B" word, "N" word...denouncing the Black race. This is truly a learning experience for us all. Hopefully next time we have a Black person running for office we will have worked these kinks out. But on the flipside what if some country star like a Toby McGuire made a record where he refereneced BO by a controversial title...or called Michelle Obama an irrelevant "B"? Think McCain's lazy arm would start wigglin'?
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TGen
Comment: Co-sign Barnone. This is such a stupid topic. Even the statement "Demand Apology" is stupid and oxymoronic, lol. How do you "demand" someone feel sorry for something, and how will an insincere apology help you at all? I think it would be good pr and just a nice gesture for Ludacris to apology, but the "demanding" thing is just comical. These people must be bored or something, wasting their time on "demanding apologies" from people who couldn't care less about them, lol. Smh
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bigchassie
Comment: it's gonna be on and poppin during the DNC.
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bigchassie
Comment: since we are on the subject of OB here is an interesting tidbit:
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bigchassie
Comment: ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday called for a $1,000 "emergency" rebate to consumers to offset soaring energy costs amid fresh signs of a struggling economy with the nation's unemployment rate climbing to a four-year high.
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Obama told a town-hall meeting the rebate would be financed with a windfall profits tax on the oil industry.
"This rebate will be enough to offset the increased cost of gas for a working family over the next four months," Obama said in the crucial swing state of Florida.
Obama had earlier said the rebates should be part of a larger tax relief package. But now he says the slumping economy demands they be put in place immediately.
Obama's remarks coincide with news that the unemployment rate climbed to a four-year high of 5.7 percent in July as employers cut 51,000 jobs, dashing the hopes of an influx of young people looking for summer work. Payroll cuts weren't as deep as the 72,000 predicted by economists, however. And, job losses for both May and June were smaller than previously reported.
July's reductions marked the seventh straight month where employers eliminated jobs. The economy has lost a total of 463,00 jobs so far this year.
"We can either choose a new direction for our economy, or we can keep doing what we've been doing," Obama said.
During his speech, Obama was interrupted by three men who stood up with a banner asking, "What about the black community, Obama?" Many in the crowd began chanting, "Yes, we can," the Obama campaign mantra to counter the criticism.
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bigchassie
Comment: Obama told the three that they would have a chance to ask questions after he had his opportunity to speak. A town-hall organizer later took the banner from the three.
During the question-and-answer period, Obama called on one of the men who held the banner, who chastised the candidate for not speaking out more about predatory lending and its impact on the black community, Hurricane Katrina's destruction and the fatal shooting of an unarmed man on his wedding day in New York.
Obama defended his record, saying he had spoken out on all those issues. "I may not have spoken out the way you want me to speak out," he said. And as the crowd stood and applauded, Obama stressed the need to be respectful, saying, "the only way to solve the problems in this country is if we all come together — black and white ..."
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bigchassie
Comment: so on that note, all these so called Celbrities, Revends, Rappers just SHUT DE HEYLL ON UP AND LET THIS MAN DO WHAT HE DO! because all they are doing is making broadcast news fat for the mediadogs! stop feeding them saying stupid things!
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musbdherbs
Comment: Queenie...Yep, you got it. These folks ain't bit more worried about women being called bytches than a lil bit. U can tell this is bs cuz Luda has nothing to do w/Obama..nothing at all. Yet, his dumb azz denouncing him just off of PP..the same things Rev. Wright said too tho..lol. LOL@DLJ, you just talked about the man's lazy arm.
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musbdherbs
Comment: *another unpopular post from here* Thanks for putting up the article Chass. It's kinda disturbing to me in a way tho' Three men interrupt Obama and ask "What about the black community" The crowd begins chanting yes we can. When they had the opp to address him and ask "what about predatory lending, katrina and Sean Bell," Obama responds by saying "I've talked about that already..just maybe not in the way you want me to." WOW! I do wonder if a Jew had asked him "what about the jews" would he have issued the same response. Not a trick question, of course he wouldn't have.
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bigchassie
Comment: MUSBHERBS>you welcome, sweetie. thought it would be an interesting brief read.
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TGen
Comment: Seems like those guys would have done their homework b4 embarazzing themselves like that, lol. I think Obama's response was a good one: "I think you are misinformed ... Every issue you talk of I did speak out about. I have been talking about predatory lending for the last two years in the U.S. Senate and worked to pass legislation to prevent it when I was in the state legislature. I have repeatedly said that many of the predatory loans that were made in the mortgage system did target the African American and Latino communities.
"Jena Six, I was the first candidate to get out there and say this is wrong, that an injustice what had been done... When Sean Bell got shot I put out a statement saying immediately this is a problem...
"Don't start shouting back, I'm just answering your question. On each of these issues I have spoken out. I may not have spoken out the way you have wanted me to speak out. Which is fine. I understand. On each of these issues you have mentioned I have spoken out and I have spoken out forcefully. Listen, I was a civil rights lawyer. I passed the first racial profiling legislation in Illinois. I passed some of the toughest death penalty reform legislation in Illinois.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/01/obama-heckled -for-not-foc_n_116308.html
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adifferentpath
Comment: interesting points in your post mus
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HarrisThomas
Comment: queeniebunz, you said "They are taking this as an opportunity to put O on the spot. Nothing more, nothing less.": Hillary supporters are prepared in a variety of ways to disrupt the dems' convention and at the rate the negative ads are working there will be discussions about BHO's electability with an eye towards a coup . . . . . co-sign, Jones, this country is more polarized than before and it's not my imagination that negative comments in the blogosphere are increasingly directed towards BHO
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SweetieDarlin
Comment: Co-sign Queenie and MelodyCool.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: for most of our history since slavery, the only loans that we have had access to are predatory loans . . . . . it surprised me greatly to see that whites are now abused by the subprime loans that have long been a staple in black communities: payday loans, mortgage loans, car loans, and whatever else could be extended beyond the black communities to make massive profits for corporate america
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musbdherbs
Comment: Thanks TGEN...you didn't post the last part of that though. "That doesn't mean I am always going to satisfy the way you want these issues framed... which gives you the option of voting for somebody else, it gives you the option of running for office yourself, those are all options. But the one thing I think is important is, that we are respectful towards each other. And what is true is that the only way we are going to solve our problems in this country is if all of us come together, black white, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, young, old, disabled, gay, straight... that has got to be our agenda."
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musbdherbs
Comment: And the question remains..would he have made the same comments to other groups...like..a women's group. Likely not..or at least not in the same way.
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MelodyCool
Comment: Where were they when Michelle Obama was called "baby mama"? This is why I NEVER stand with these women even when I feel they are right.
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TMan
Comment: My words to Luda: Though I think your heart was in the right place, in the words of Huggie Lowdown on Tom Joyner, the words of his rap and the timing of it makes me wanna say, "Ludacris, you are the bama of the week, weak, weak!" LOL!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: Luda's entertainment is not a change agent for uplifting women and it's no surprise . . . . . when BHO says that we are the change that we have been waiting for do people understand that he would like to facilitate the change by making government function on behalf of the people by making it easier for people to engage government's functions for change? . . . . . or are people more comfortable with having a person to complain to [a black or white president] and having that person hand them a remedy?
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TMan
Comment: It's good that the current crop of rappers love and support Obama. It shows to the world that even "Generation We Dress And Act Like We Don't Give A F+*&" actually got their eyes open on the issues. Generation No Fear Got Obama's Back!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: Generation No Fear needs to go vote on election day
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Reds
Comment: Barack Obama who found himself being yelled at -- several times -- by African-American attendees who argued that he ignores "black" issues. Barack was left to the defense of the whites in the crowd with chants of “Yes we can.” We may actually be witnessing the final throws of the Obama candidacy. When the Obituary is written it will be attributed to complacency, the word wish brought down the Clinton campaign. Just as Clinton ignored her base by supporting Bush corrupt policies, Obama has done the same by ignoring blacks. Complacency also on the part of Mrs. Clinton by ignoring the caucuses during the primaries caused her to lose valuable delegate votes. Complacency from Obama is also now allowing McCain to mount one unanswered attack ad after another. In the midst all this, the cheerleading by his so called supporters continues in the media and on this board (it’s going to be aiight). BTW, I think it was kind of rude when Barack told the black guy that he wanted him to hand the mic back after he asked his question. Never heard him saying that to anyone white.
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MelodyCool
Comment: Reds, ITA. Many of Obama's supporters know he uses smoke and mirrors but jump on the bandwagon nonetheless. It's not unusual for people like Obama to protect whites at all costs. He does not deserve that kind of loyalty from blacks and never will. Obama is a meticulous planner and reading a NY Times article about his teaching days proves it along with all the other evidence. He made sure he never left a paper trail and refused to publish info like many of his colleagues. This is also why he registered "present" over 100 times when it came to voting on issues before the senate. He's a slickster plain and simple. Folks before to check this out: --->http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/us/politics/3 0law.html <----- "While most colleagues published by the pound, he never completed a single work of legal scholarship."
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Reds
Comment: MelodyCool, I had mixed feelings reading the article. Initially, I was impressed by his choice of topics to teach. “At a school where economic analysis was all the rage, he taught rights, race and gender.” But he was really using the classroom as a test bed for how to argue these issues in his future political carrier. <<“He tested his ideas in classrooms,” said Dennis Hutchinson, a colleague. Every seminar hour brought a new round of, “Is affirmative action justified? Under what circumstances?”>> I guess he even went beyond leaving a paper trail <<But whether out of professorial reserve or budding political caution, Mr. Obama would not say so directly. “He surfaced all the competing points of view on Guinier’s proposals with total neutrality and equanimity,” Mr. Franklin said. “He just let the class debate the merits of them back and forth.” >>
The final test <<And before he posed what may be the ultimate test of racial equality — whether Americans will elect a black president — he led students through African-Americans’ long fight for equal status. >>
I’m a bit surprised, though, at his performance at this juncture. For someone as cautious and deliberate as his past reflects, how can he not see the need to be more focused on influencing public opinion. I think he did a good job in the primaries, but here we have McCain being the more successful strategists. They don’t take a day off, planning and scheming ways to get ahead, while Obama only seem to be bothered with it every other week.
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MelodyCool
Comment: Obama seems to have planned too carefully IMO and comes across as "stealthy" in nature. His half brother said he once ran out of a stag party in the UK when a dancer showed up dressed like a school girl. This is one more thing which proves he's quite the meticulous planner. He's ice cold and very single-minded no doubt...and something scares me about him after you know how he treated Alice Palmer and his willingness to throw folks under the bus. I read that article on Huffington about the hecklers. I notice this is the second time he has suggested to black folks that they might want to vote for someone else. He said it at the NAACP as well and I guess he feels we have no where else to turn. I think it's starting to sink in with some black folks and I hope they call his bluff. I have even read speculation about his choice to marry a black woman and to refer to himself as black...for now. Obama is all "calculation" and manipulation. His true colors are coming out. Notice blacks are the only ones he feels comfortable with swinging on and responding flippantly to.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: Melody, you are speaking of BHO's Illinois political body of work and university history in the manner of McShame's negative ads: you are misleading by not telling the whole story . . . . . BHO voted "present" on issues based upon pre-agreement with folks on behalf of whom he was voting . . . . . BHO refused tenure [professors do anything for tenure] when it was offered and had no requirement to publish, even so, he attained the rank of senior lecturer, a title otherwise carried only by a few federal judges [BHO was no judge] . . . . . BHO was simultaneously lecturing at university [University of Chicago Law School], a state senator, and working in a civil rights law firm . . . . . dislike him for something that makes sense, but don't mislead
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HarrisThomas
Comment: Melody, you know that Alice Palmer reneged on her deal with BHO: he told her that in advance that once he got his state sentator campaign up and going, he was not going to drop out . . . . Ms. Palmer lost her US Representative primary to JJ's son and asked BHO to drop out of his race so she could run for her old political post and he didn't drop out, so she mounted a sloppy attempt to get on the ballot with hardly any time to do it which became her undoing when his campaign contested Palmer's ballot petition signatures . . . . . Palmer threw herself under the bus: Melody, why did she renege? and why do you blame BHO?
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JamerDelta
Comment: I'm usually not available to respond to this totally baseless argument about Alice Palmer because of my schedule, but I'm going to post it just in case someone will read it at sometime. Alice Palmer is a SUPPORTER of Barack Obama!!!!! I watched when they first showed this piece on CNN and one of the rebuttals is that they never showed the other side that both the guy that they featured and Alice are supporting the man. So, please stop using this argument as something
that's against him because if she has recognized her part and supporting him why shouldn't you leave this argument be--REDS and MELODY???????????????
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Reds
Comment: JamerDelta, I think you may have missed the point that we’ve been trying to make. As Melody says, “He's ice cold and very single-minded no doubt...and something scares me about him after you know how he treated Alice Palmer and his willingness to throw folks under the bus.” Alice support for him only reinforces what Melody also says “I guess he feels we have nowhere else to turn.” This also reminds me of why some would make the argument that Ludacris song will have no effect because everybody has already made up their mind how to vote. Blacks are so trapped in their voting habits, i.e. SOLIDLY Democratic, that they don’t realize that a large percent of yts go into each election cycle with no idea of who they will eventually vote for, just waiting for the slightest incident to sway them one way or the other. The Republicans know this, and those are the ones that they will target with seemingly trivial things as Luda’s song.
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MelodyCool
Comment: Reds -------> Blacks are so trapped in their voting habits, i.e. SOLIDLY Democratic, that they don’t realize that a large percent of yts go into each election cycle with no idea of who they will eventually vote for, just waiting for the slightest incident to sway them one way or the other. The Republicans know this, and those are the ones that they will target with seemingly trivial things as Luda’s song. <------- The reason blacks are treated as stepchildren by the Democratic party is they have us pegged and too many have grown complacent and do not behave the same as other constituents. We give them a blank check and that predictability is costing us as a race.
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Taurusingr
Comment: So....it's not ok for US to confront YT about what WE are owed! (money apology whatever!!) ...But everyone else who has been wronged can do it to US & WE are ok with it! What kind of one-sided/Willie lynch shyt is that!?? Oooops!! I just answered my own question!! Not to say that Luda was right!! But Why all the fuss over what HE did, & no kinda noise over what YT has done to US for about 450 G D years!?? Holla!
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TMan
Comment: Ludacris --- Is it just me or has the Idiot Level gone up in the Entertainment Biz in the last 20 years? In the words of Ren and Stimpy: "Ludacris! You Eeeeediiiot!" LOL!
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MelodyCool
Comment: Taurusingr=====>But Why all the fuss over what HE did, & no kinda noise over what YT has done to US for about 450 G D years!?? Holla!<======== Why is Obama afraid to step out on questions like this??? Obama will have no problem sticking it to blacks and takes pleasure putting you in your place for the delight of nonblacks.
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