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huey
Comment: this nut has gotton on my last dayum nerve. he is a media whore and camera oppourtunist who just happenes to have a mastery of the queens english. i tried to ride with him until his continious justificaction of the use of the n-word. that was the last straw. then he tries to hustle a book every week with claims of being a "reverend" he is starting to look like a wolf in sheeps clothing.
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WhoStoleTheSoul
Comment: When will his 15 minutes of fame be up? By the way, instead of reporting on this ignorant fool, the EUR should do a long interview on the REAL Hip-Hop Professor: James G. Spady (from Philly)!
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jazzfan
Comment: Mrs. O has a nice shape, but with MED being from Detroit and teaching in DC I don't know how her booty got his attention, it's about average or below average for a sista, from what I've seen. Of course, she is usually shown from the front, so I haven't gotten a great look. Maybe BET and TVOne have some old cameramen from Soul Train who know how to focus on just the right angles! ;o)
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TGen
Comment: lol, seems like since the article is about Dyson's comments, the QUOTE would have been included... *rolling eyes* Sooo, given that I have no idea what he said and how he said it, I'm going to take Porter's position at face value and say that if this is true, Dyson was out of line, (although I don't think he meant to be. He probably thought if there's anywhere to keep it "real talk," a Black network would be it.) I have to admit watching either TVone or BET was not really an option for me (I know I'm wrong to say that, lol), but I'm glad they're upping their programming game. Good for them. And I'm glad Porter is trying to make them uphold a professional standard. Good for him.
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Selah
Comment: Well said (or typed) TGen!
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asize12
Comment: I must admit, I was taken aback by his constant mention of her butt. It was VERY inappropriate and he was definitely out of line. Now, let this had been someone on Fox, we'd be in an UPROAR! He owes Barack & Michelle an apology because those statement showed ignorance and a lack of class...
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Disillusioned_Jones
Comment: I co-sign in saying that his comments especially for as educated as he is, were, uncalled for. I believe MED was trying to be hip and maybe even tried his stab at comedy but he's not a comedian...
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umph_umph_umph
Comment: All that book sense and NO common sense...
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oldsoul
Comment: Dyson has always been an undercover pseudo-intellectual, imo...i didn't stick around for the after party - after party, for what? - but if he said what he supposedly said, he needs to be a man and apologize for that stupid sh*t...you either part of the solution or part of the problem.
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oldsoul
Comment: ...well, on second thought, I guess you can be both but what he was talkin' bout was defifinitely what I'd call problematic.
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McNasty
Comment: Damn! and this is one of Bill Cosby's critics when Bill first began speaking the truth. Dyson spent an inordinate amount of time trying to dispel everything Cos said and confirming for some that Cos was talking down to black folk while being rich. Michelle's behind shouldn't have even come into the conversation - she's married and so is Dyson and out respect for, if not him, his wife he should have fallen back before saying some shat like that. Now it seems like since he jumped on the hip hop bandwagon and they all embraced him he's decided to stoop to their level and objectify and degrade yet another black woman while mainstream media watches and feeds off it like it's fine dining. Damn!!
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Disillusioned_Jones
Comment: My sentiments, exactly McNasty. He stands behind the use of the N-word then he chooses to talk about Michelle Obama in that way. Of all the history unfolding before our very eyes this supposedly super educated voice of reason is going to come out of left field to focus on her azz...Like umh, umph, umph said, all that education can't substitute for class...hopefully TV One will put a muzzle on his mouth after he apologizes.
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pdub
Comment: I am not an MED fan. I never really "got" how he became a Black "litterati." So I am not surprised that he might have spoken about Mrs. Obama this way. IF he said it, he needs to apologize immediately. It's encouraging that Paul Porter actually called him out.
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HersheysKiss
Comment: "emcee Nasty" Couldnt' have said it better myself. SMH
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Yo, her butt was looking kinda tight in that dress...but yeah, Dyson shoulda admired that azz in silence...There's no need for that on a news show...I know it's called the after-party but c'mon Dys...I thought he was gonna start singing rump-shaker or spit that old sckool joint..."I like big butts"...No place for that man...I think Dys goes too far sometimes with the hip-hop references and sh1t...At least Jesse was original with his rhymes...Corny but original...Dys just quotes every dayum body....Yo, Jacque was looking kinda nice in that dress on that couch, legs crossed...Thought I saw some thigh with a lil piece of butt attached...
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BigRuss
Comment: I watched the TV1 coverage and was not surprised. The show was very amateurish and lacked major substance. this includes the commentators of the event before the after party. I understand TV1 does not have the budget for a news department however we could start to work on having more developed talent. One benefit of the coverage from a Black perspective is the exposure of Black officials I have never seen or heard of.
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bigchassie
Comment: okay...so Micheal D said something he shouldn't said. i know something was said when i switched back on to TVOne. i was switching channels between CSPAN and TVOne. when i switched back on TVOne, i heard the word, Gluteus. so he talked about Michelle's chassie huh. yeah, Micheal you could have kept your mouth shut on that one. this is our future first lady. yes she is beautiful to look at, as far as her chassie is concerned, that's for Baracks eyes only. lay off man.
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rayne
Comment: I've never been a fan of his & what he said last night only confirms my thoughts
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musbdherbs
Comment: Isn't this issue more about sexism/misogny than some reflection on the black community? If we want the world to stop as.suming that we all speak for each other, we also have to stop singing the same tune everytime somebody black does some'n. This is a man issue..not a black one.
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indipindintthnkr
Comment: I've heard MED speak on many occasions and I always walk away with the feeling that he 1. loves to hear himself talk and 2. talks around everybody else with big words so that he gives the impression hes more intelligent than they are. I hope they leave that all ig-nant clowning sh!t over on BET. I'm kinda feeling tv 0ne right now.
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blackdragon
Comment: I don't have TVOne, so I don't know what he said. A quote would have been nice. If Michael Eric Dyson did say those things about Michelle Obama, he should apologize. I'm not a fan of this guy anyway. Indipindintthnkr, McNasty, oldsoul, pdub, huey, and Disillusioned_Jones are right in their comments.
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rho_dog2
Comment: In the spirit of disclosure, allow me to start off by saying I have always been a MED fan. That being said, I did not find his remarks as offensive and others on this site. I watched the show and it was just one comment he made in an attempt to speak of his pride in a women who represented the best of us both physically and intelligently on center stage. I did however think that all the silliness of the show some what reduced him to acting like a clown. Even the ad didn’t come across as serious. I would have much rather seen him in a format with serious discussion and not an after party setting.
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gingerg
Comment: I can't stand Michael Dyson. He's too pompous for my taste. Nobody with any damm sense was looking at Michelle's rear. Of course, she's an attractive woman, but we were thinking about her heart, mind, spirit and committment to her husband and children.
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gingerg
Comment: That was downright disrespectful to Michelle Obama and Marcia Dyson.
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SpecialK
Comment: gingerg: Did he make that comment about Michelle's booty in front of his wife?
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ....Women are much more than butts man...The butt is only a small part of a woman's totality...It's a big, small part...Michelle Obama has been referred to as the "rock" of the Obama family...In essence, she's Rak's rock...with one soundbite has Dys reduced her to a big butt...No, I say!!!...This is a strong, intelligent, articulate Black woman....With a nice...but not bootylicious, Melyssa Ford bootie...I'm sure Dys will do the right thing....or else...Rak roots ain't nuthing to play the fucc with...numean?...numean?...Muthafuccer won't sell another book and will fall off the face of the earth man...All his sh1t will dry up...
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jess
Comment: A complete lack of class and total lack of respect! What about that fantastic speech she made? She hit it out of the ballpark! Did that get past him somehow? Misogynist jerk!
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huey
Comment: what we are witnissing in these folks is what i refer to as "culture pimps and pimpstresses"...they go from talk show to talk show, speaking as though they are the quasi authority on all black culture. and because they oftentimes teach at ivy league schools, white msm (and black pontificators like tavis smiley) have them on their talk shows and panels as reoccuring guest because these pimps and pimpstresses say what they think people want to hear. and now, dyson has his wife involved. she is rolling with him (even though she was adament about he love for hillary clinton and her campaign and a big time supporter) now she is "down" with barack. their culture pimps, through and through. "all your skin folk and your kin folk". ironically, years ago, suge knight peeped dysons hold card when dyson wrote the trash book on 2pac. fate would have it, dyson and suge were on the same panel. suge looked down at dyson as he sat beside him and said, "what kind of shi$% book is that u called yourself writing about my boy? it's garbage, straight up b.s. i know dayum well if my boy was alive, he would NEVER have talked to your punk azz"...the whole room got quite. dyson was sweating and clearly shaken and stirred. he didnt say one word.
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Kyenn
Comment: I watched the After Party because I wanted to give TV1 the benefit of the doubt. The show lack order and professionalism. And what was up with that curly head dude who was on the scene??? You wouldl have thought the he was covering the BET awards and not the Democratic convention. Not only did MED say those offensive words, but his WIFE was on the panel. I wonder how she felt about that. I'm trying to support my people, but if I see no improvements, I'll just go back to CNN. I know Tavis has has his issues with Obama, but I think he would have been much better at hosting this show. WE GOT TO DO BETTER!!!
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WhoStoleTheSoul
Comment: TV One beef up it's news? CATHY HUGHES' TV One? The same woman who said, "Black people don't want the news (as she wipes it away from each of her radio stations); They want to be ENTERTAINED!"
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musbdherbs
Comment: rho-dog..I agree w/you. I didn't find the comment..(whatever it was) offensive. I am a BIG fan of Mike and have heard him many times b4 talk about black women's coco derriere. Maybe it was inappropriate for the forum but I didn't find it offensive. Ginger...suit yourself...that's one of the first things I saw once Obama was on the screen. Oh and the last thing i saw too. I bet you that if you asked many men who were honest, they will tell you that they looked at that azz...sorry but it's true.
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TGen
Comment: Huey, what makes Dyson a "pimp?" He's waay too liberal on some things and takes extreme positions sometimes, but I've never doubted his sincerity in his commentary, and I think by and large, his scholarly lingo is a positive representation of Blacks to "others." And are you saying you actually sided with Suge Knight (who most believe had something to do with Tupac's murder) over Dyson, who as far as I know, wrote a book that praised Pac? I can feel that you don't care for him, maybe he is a pompous elite wannabe like you claim, but I think you're reaching, esp with that Suge Knight thing. Wow
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JamerDelta
Comment: Does anyone know what he actually said and in what context? That would be really helpful in discerning if it was appaling(sp) or not--don't you think?
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Ok mus, I'll admitt it..I took a glance at Michelle Obama's butt...It was just a glance and not a long lingering stare...The dress did hug that curve quite snuggly...but it didn't deter from the message and that's whats important...
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TMan
Comment: Interesting. I saw Michelle's speech and the TV ONE After Party. I saw Dyson's comment but I didn't take it that way that Porter is saying but there is nothing wrong with pointing out Dyson could have said it a different way.
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PRDC
Comment: He got carried away because she was looking great in her dress and knowing black men, regardless of what the topic is..they will shy on your butt everytime. He shouldn't have said it, but he did and maybe he can apology or explain why he said it. He's no greater or less than the next man.
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TMan
Comment: TGen, I saw the whole thing, what Dyson said about Michelle I thought was well intended unless I missed something later on at the end that this it referencing. I don't know the quote cuz it was too long. He was praising her for being a beautiful intelligent sistah - both but he said it in his Dyson way. The women clapped after he said it.
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huey
Comment: TGen -- couple of quick things on dyson. i think he is in fact a culture pimp. i think he very skilled with the queens english. but as for any works that he has done for people of color. they are absent at best. he makes his money off of the backs of others. such as his book on dr. king, that spoke to the dr. king having extramarrital affairs during the civil rights movement. i think we as a people could have done without that book. it brought nothing to the table that we didnt already know about dr. king. dyson caught he11 over writing that book. next, his book on why bill cosby is wrong. ok, so u dont agree with bill. but bill, love him or hate him is at least in the communities trying to make a difference. he is not just talking the talk but walking the walk. dyson sees it as an oppourtunity to make money off of bills efforts, while doing nothing himself. next, another book on marvin gaye. ok, that story has been regurgiated ad nausium. over and over. enough marvin gaye stories! there is no more meat on that bone. david ritz broke that story down so that it can forever be broken. leave it to dyson to try again though, he wants some of that money. next, 2pac, now that book is flat out pushing it! im a big pac enthusiest so i read the book and dyson didnt do himself any favors by writing it. he didnt have any real resources to speak of when he wrote it, so the reader was left hanging throughout the book in my opinion. (have the time the people he tried to talk to about pac dissed him so he had nothing to quote them on)then he tried to use a bunch of huge words to make the book seem scholorly. i luv pac but i dont think one needed to use all of those huge words to get an idea of who pac was. i have all pacs music and i dont think dyson needed to over pontificate to try and get a grasp on pac. and obviously suge didnt think so either. my point was not to big-up suge but to say, dyson was never going to be able to write that book with any real validity. he was not credible. the books needed another author is my point. dyson wanted money....off of pacs legacy.
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huey
Comment: ...and dont let me forget to mention, why is dyson supporting that looser of a mayor kwame kilpatrick for is highly publicized trys and cover ups....
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...How else could he complement Michelle's butt without somebody taking offense?..."That was a powerful speech and dare I say, isn't Michelle's posterior simply stunning...
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bigchassie
Comment: HUEY>SAY WHAT? HE'S supporting Kwame? awwheyellnaw! that realy killed it there for me then.
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JustTellingTheTruth
Comment: @Huey -- Gone Brotha Huey......break it down for the peeples. You never make a post you can't back up and substantiate. Real is just Real with you, no B.S. on board. @B00TANEB00TUS -- comment: "That was a powerful speech and dare I say, isn't Michelle's posterior simply stunning...". B00T,you are just so damn charming and eloquent...
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huey
Comment: bigchassie --absolutely is....dyson feels that everyone should get a chance for redemption (and keep thier job)...regardless of wherethere or not they have raped a city of millions of dollars at the expense of his defense for a lost case against him and his chief of staff cathline beatty. regardless of the loss of jobs and hardship to the families of those police officers that he and beatty conveinently fired ....for nothing. regardless of the tax payers money being used to defend his worthless behind once again....dyson....what a trip...i use to think dyson was on the up and up....now he has forced me to add his name to my culture pimp log with others just like him...i didnt do this without lots of forethought...but some things must be done...
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MzTee
Comment: rho-dog and musbdherbs...I agree with y'all. I like Mike and while I didn't see the comment, I don't think he meant it in an insulting manner. I believe old boy was revering and praising Michelle's beauty which let's face it, black women -- especially brown- and darker-skinned sistas -- is overlooked in mainstream society. MED has written a book entitled, "Why I Love Black Women" that praises and worships all the wonderful things about sistas that makes us beautiful. While it may NOT have been the best forum for him to make that statement, I do NOT believe he was being disrespectful and/or crass BUT I can see how easily it would be perceived as such.
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TGen
Comment: Huey: "Some things must be done" lol. You sound so serious! Okay, I'll give you that maybe he's someone seeking to make money off his rich culture (don't forget, it is his culture too, he's Black too, remember?). But um, how does that make him any different than any number of Black scholars, from DuBois to Cornel West? These people capitalized off of commentary about their culture. I would ask then, what makes you think you know Dyson's "soul?" but I won't since you seem to have already made up your mind. I will give you that his bios may not have been "necessary" (are any bios ever?), but I won't give you that they didn't offer new info. You say most knew about MLK's philandering, well I didn't, and at the time, I hated I found out, and I too thought "what was the point?" But I think the point was to humanize MLK, much like Marvin Gaye and others. Not saying I agree with his tactics, not even saying that I know his motives were all pure, but I am saying that I think you're reaching with this "pimp" business. Unlike JustTellingTheTruth, I don't think you've substanitated your opinions with facts, just more opinions. But that's cool, do what you do...
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TMan
Comment: B00TANEB00TUS, you right. Well said. I mean even Barack did a husband wife playful air smack at her beautiful backside after the fist bump. Maybe he meant to do it to her back. But it looked liek he was going for the "thank you baby" (smack! on the butt) LOL! Aye, thats his wife so its thier business - if they choose to do that on the stage - its all love cuz of the way they carry it. They GOT A LOVE THANG ITS CLEAR and im happy for them - HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP FILLED WITH CANT WAIT TO GET TO U LATER KIND OF LOVE! - a brother could relate to the action he did. "Gone girl, you did a knock out job, gonna spank that %*$ later and you KNOW I will!" I aint mad at him! LOL! ;)
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TMan
Comment: I'm saying with all due respect - that Michelle'Barack Love is foe real. Anybody can see that - it's a beautiful thang! :);)
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TMan
Comment: PRDC, when Arthur Fennel and joe Madison kicked it to The After Party at 11pm Jackie, Tyson and them were all ready talking - they did it like that on purpose to show that this was a conversation going on in place - the microphones kept dropping out - then when Jackie kicked it to the black comedianne, it was on. I actually thought the ladies spent too much time on how she looked. That is how they opened the show. But Rev Al said it was good to note that because apperances and images go a long way etc etc. and the significance of it all etc. This is what dyson was tryign to say etc. Dyson was looking at it as "Excellence" and how Michelle just raised the bar. In sharpton's words - no prez candidate ever let their wife speak like that in that way etc - so they were also discussing it in a political history aspect. Rev Al was very on point all night.
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TMan
Comment: Tyson and Al were also trying to break it down on a cultural level of a black woman with southern roots, connected to the history of slavery of blacks in america etc - the rise of a people - the rise of a sistah - beautiful intelligent - came from not much like so many - had the opp to go corporate - did a lil bit but came back to community on her own like barack - yall feel me? they were tryign to show the deep significance of it all - a chocolate sister too? yeah man. - the stigmas of race color etc - they were sayign Michelle knocked it out the park on all levels.
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Kyenn
Comment: I don't think he ment to be offensive, it was just classless. Why do black women always have to be reduced to a piece of arse? If a white commentator had siad that, there would have been an uproar.
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TMan
Comment: Overall the panel was a little bit more too playful then I thougth TV ONE would go - I would expect this from BET - but it got down to the panel they had - REv Al was the coolest to me. Jamie Foster Brown said she believed the ancestors of black people "Sat Up" in their graves last night. When I saw the promo comercial of everybody dancing even Tyson I knew they were going to keep it funny and real - For a minute I asked "Oh Lawd here we go again - why we gotta be dancing in the commercial? LOL!" it wasn't the best discussion i ever seen but it is what it is - maybe tv one will repeat - gone and check it out all this week each night different live session. I just hope they dont get too wild and loose but ya'll know how we do we keeps it real!
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TMan
Comment: And yall know after Hillary speak tonight the panel is gonna talk about dat azz! And I aint talkin bout her behind! LOL! They gonna talk about how the clintons did the obamas. Now that I wanna hear!
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musbdherbs
Comment: TMAN..thanks for the clarity. I can believe your version that the non-version this story presented. It actually sounds more like what Dyson would say...considering that he always talk about black women beauty. TGEN...uhm..I was thinking the same thing. How can you substantiate an opinion as fact..by using another opinion?..SMH
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huey
Comment: TGen ---i will rest my case respectfully on these few points. i dont dislike dyson. i just dont take people on face value. ok, point one: bill cosby has always been a fixture in philly. love him or hate him, he is here year after year, in the community, trying to love somebody, he is at the penn relays every year, taking pictures with the young kids runnering track, making them feel good about themselves..thats were its at. conversly, dyson taught at upenn for a few years, never once saw him in the community...uhh unless it was at zanzibar blue or borders on cicil b. moore ave hustling his next book. point two: just because u are part of a culture dont give u a right to pimp it. its one thing to write a "sincere" book about the culture and another thing to pimp it. there is a difference, game recognizes game. point three:i wont even acknowledge your point on w.e.b. duboise..im going to assume you have not done your homework and i dont have the time to teach black history. no disrepect to you but thats where im at on that. point four: research dr. west. and you will find that he puts his work, prisions, high schools etc, hbcu's he puts in his man hours...and to compare his literary work to that of dysons is blasphamy...im gonna assume u have not read any of his work...if not,,i highly recommend starting at "race matters", or "democracy matters"...no disrecpect to you again, but please read my point again about the differece between pimping the culture and writing some deep discourse about culture, point five:i will give u a pass on your knowledge or lackthereof on dr. king. no disrespect to you again but im not sure how that small peice of info slid pass you all of these years until dysons book, that was not new-news, but to each his own, point six: i never professed to know dysons soul, u said that, not me,,i simply see him, the man, as a culture pimp, that dont make him a demon, just makes him a pimp, is there a heaven for a pimp or pimpstess? i dont know, just like i dont know his soul, these are hueys opinions, not the gospel according to huey, point seven: you dont humunize a person by trying expolit their misgivens, thats called pimping them.
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JustTellingTheTruth
Comment: @Huey--folks are getting "upset" with ya, it's that kind of day. So from now on...for every comment you post, you need to clarify if it is "fact", "fiction", or simply your realities as you perceive them. The peeples now need a formal and official breakdown. So, be sure to briefly cite your references and/or if necessary, include a full bibliography in case someone wants to verify what you've posted.
:-) LOL.....
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huey
Comment: JustTellingTheTruth ---lol...ive done all i can for today,,,i shall allow them to go do their due deligence...they will find im on point lol..
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bigchassie
Comment: OKAY YALL KEEP IT COMMING. I NEED MORE JUICE TO READ. I'M GOING ON BREAK AND I NEED SOME GOOD JUICE TO CONTINUE TO READ. (dang i wish i was getting off at 5:00 tonight! i'll be running to the trainstation again!)
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Najasila
Comment: Let's think about this comment for a moment. I didn't catch the original comment Dyson made, but let's get real: The vision of beauty in this country has been a stick thin white woman with no curves and blonde hair. Black men have not been saying, gotta get me a girl that looks like a plank. No. They have been interested in thicker women, women like the standard African American body we all embrace. Now, fast forward to today, and Michelle Obama is a beautiful woman -- WITH CURVES. So, I take his comments to mean, thank God we have moved away from the standard image of beauty and onto someone with a figure. Everyone needs to stop diggin so deep for reasons to vilify anyone who talks about this (soon to be) first family.
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McNasty
Comment: Kyenn - exactly! He may not have meant it in a derogatory sense but the forum they were in wasn't the one - he should have been on that Black Men Talking Smack! show - no one would have heard it then - it's not a main stream show. There is a time and a place for everything and most black folks are too aware of how we are perceived around the world for dyson to have brought the woman's as.s into the discussion. You can describe a beautiful chocolate sistah in detail and color without ever mentioning any of her physical attributes!
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huey
Comment: Najasila ---I think what is taking people aback as relates to this article is not so much michelles beauty, but the idea of coveting. not that im a christian, but i do know that thou should not covet. now, that being said, dyson is a preacher, and therefore is presumably held to a higher standard. and based on the article, he just coverted another mans wife. it would be one thing for him to have said, "my goodness, is michelle not a beautiful sister?"..hence that would have been construed as admiring her beauty. but in this case, he basically said "look at that phat-juicy-round spherical-tight-dimple on the side-bubbly azz muffin of hers...now that Najasila , will get cha in trouble...
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Fragrance
Comment: I thought her brother was fine. But then again I wasn't on tv saying it.
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McNasty
Comment: Make it plain Huey, make it plain! I don't dislike Dyson, I don't know him. I don't respect his literary works and I agree with Huey - Dyson is a pimp that doesn't contribute anything but books no editor should publish. He speaks well, very well but when he was going after Cos and jumped on the hip hop bandwagon at the same time I knew something was up - next thing you know the pimp in the pinstripe suit done did a rap album! He wanted errybody to think it was one where he was speaking big brother to the rappers but no one that I know that heard it got that from it - just that it was a H.A.M! It's okay to admire and appreciate the black female form but some have had enough of any of the descriptions being printed when intelligent words were spoken and they were ignored in favor of t&a!
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Exmun
Comment: Let me say that I agree with Huey that Michael Eric Dyson is a "culture pimp." I've never cared for him that much. I think he's highly intelligent, but his justification for a lot of hip hop's ridiculousness lost me a long time ago. I would just rather people call things what they are and stop justifying stupid stuff... BUT as a man, I can say that I've sneaked a peak at the future First Lady's derriere, and it's looked smashing. In that purple dress the last day of the primaries... what a sight. Is it sexist to notice a nice behind? I don't think so, it's human. Still, everything has it's time and place. It's barber shop talk or dinner out with the boys talk to comment on the future First Lady's gluteus maximus. It's not the time and place to be talking about the woman's chassie after that woman's serious political speech. And common sense should suggest to him that as a married man, it's not a good look to be talking about another woman's gluts on national TV, unless your wife gets down like that... and mine don't. So keep it shut M.E.D.
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bigchassie
Comment: TMAN>ummhumm! you know that's right sweetie. ain't nothing like some good strong black love! make you beam with pride! the "Baby i got yo back, and i know you got mine, you know it, Daddie" kind of love! good stuff! *raises hand and grins*
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bigchassie
Comment: HUEY>what?....is THAT what he said about Michelle's attributes?? oooh!
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Name:
Janissi
Comment: I didn't get offended by what he said EXCEPT for the fact that it was in front of his wife, and she didn't seem to appreciate it. That was the sense I got when he made that comment.
Anywho, the show fell flat, and the "guy on the scene" segment was completely lost. They could've omitted that portion.
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musbdherbs
Comment: As others have stated, it would be nice to see what he said and how he said it. But, that would be too much like asking for information..some'n we aren't inclined to do. 'Nas/Exmun...If you happened to catch Dyson talking about hip-hop, he has been extremely vocal about the misogyny/sexism and overall distorted views of masculinity in hip-hop and the black community in general. That's not opinion..it is fact. His hip-hop "advocacy" is largely centered around what Pac "could have been" and rappers similar to him who are able to use hip-hop as a greater..not limited voice of something good. Maybe he has but I've yet to see him defend the ying yang twins or lil john. We MUST get beyond this notion of hip-hop where you may not like an artist..I do..and because of that I'm a defender of all things wrong w/the world. That is ridiculous and gets us nowhere fast. I haven't read all of his books but surely u can't be suggesting that because you don't like his books or he's not parading on TV doing the work of the people..or disagreeing w/Cosby that he somehow is a pimp. That's just another overused term like hating and nig ger. I've yet to see Dyson use our community as a way to forward his agenda. That's what a pimp is IMO. If you truly believe that then I would like to see some real evidence of such cuz disliking him or his books or his style doesn't make him a pimp. If that's the case, Cosby is a pimp times two.
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Exmun
Comment: 'Herbs, I get what you're saying. I don't have the energy now to give specifics, but I've seen Dyson many times and on many occasions glorifying hip hop (as-ia not in the normative sense). I consider him a hip hop apologist. That's why I agree with Huey on the "culture pimp" tag. I can recognize the difference between his attempt to discuss some of these hip hop artists based on their potential rather than solely reality. I've just seen him on too many occasions trying to justify foolishness under the banner of young men growing up in poverty have the outlet of hip hop to describe their circumstances. To me it's a ruse. A lot of these guys are fake thugs who make up that stuff for money. My main critique of him is that he thinks too hard about stuff. Sometimes it's as simple as "dude wanna rhyme shat because that's what's paying." Ain't got jack to do with expressing rage from his difficult upbringing. I also find him too off base and ivory towerish with the $6 Million explanations for everything.
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huey
Comment: bigchassie--naw....that was just me adding some color commentary to what he was probably thinking lol
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Name:
TMan
Comment: bigchassie, LOL! Alright now!
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Name:
TMan
Comment: musbdherbs, no problem. I think Dyson (sorry for me keep saying Tyson) lol! I think Dyson def meant what he said well. Intended well. He put all his Dyson big words lingo on it and made that joint blossom like a flower too for her. It was very descriptive. I think I heard one of the female panel members or audience members say "My Lawd!" after he said it. LOL! They are a lively group and they are def keepin it real so I would tune in again this night and all this week just to see what they say some moe'. I actually wish they could rotate the panel guests all week so we can get some more folks opinions. Maybe they will go out into the studio audience tonight. I actually woulda loved to see Cathy Hughes and Dick Gregory Hosting the DNC TV ONE After Party and having everyone else be the panel guests rotate. For all those outside of DC, ya'll missed the good ole days when Cathy Hughes and Dick Gregory used to Co host her show together in the morning in DC on WOL 1450 AM in the 90s. They could have taken that show on the road it was so good and plenty! Droppin the science and crackin your azz up all in the between and makin you ponder and think on things too that made you go Hmmm... all day long while you at work. LOL! Maybe they will do something together now on TV ONE since she owns it. I would tune into that billy every night! LOL!
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Name:
TMan
Comment: bigchassie, you memba that incense and oil the brothas used to sell on the corner called "Black Love"? LOL! Watchoutderenow! LOL!
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Name:
TMan
Comment: Najasila! Right On! :) ;)
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Name:
DoctorSmooth
Comment: The brotha does love to hear the sound of his own voice, no doubt about that. But as far as this comment, every public figure is going to day something stupid at least once, so I'm not gonna beat him up too much for this. On balance, the man's effect within the black community is still a net positive. Lord knows 50 cent, Ludacris, and company have said far more disrespectful things toward black women.
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Name:
kwrob
Comment: This whole show is nothing more than a bunch of Black people clowining, shucking and jiving, and making Steppin Fetchit look like a Harvard Grad, and Dyson is the worst of them all. Sheryl Underwood appears understated compared to him. I got turned off to this mess by seeing the promo before the convention started. Why is it that Black people always have to be somewhere buck dancing or clowning on camera all the time? And what the hell does G. Garvin know about politics? I mean they call it an afterparty, but that does not mean they can't engage in a consturctive critique of the convention without somebody on there being a clown. Dyson needs to face it. He's too old to be acting street. He looks like a 40-60 year-old guy wearing a throwback jersey of a famous RB or WR, and he has a big fat stomach. For some reason it just doesn't fit.
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Name:
mamamay
Comment: A compliment re a persons physique is ok, as long as it is related to viewing art. It's ignorance when one can only pass judgement out of lust. I take it Mr Dyson was passing judgement in the familiar way as just looking at Art. Right? There was a time when the women of color got very few compliments, We should be glad men are taking time to really give an opinion now, as well as the whistle. I appreciate it, and My husband still watches me and the fellows who are watching me after more than 5 decades. Dont apologize for those comments. I believe it was done in good taste.
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