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naturalsista
Comment: i'll lurk back later when the site is filled with 'monday morning quarterback' posts...
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JustTellingTheTruth
Comment: Excellent!!! Go Barak, Do The Dammn Thang! The American Peeples Are Looking Forward To A Democratic Victory In November!!
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Tokyo_Joe
Comment: I saw the debate. I thought it was a tie. Barack did not hit Mccain when he was open. Many opprotunities to hit mccain hard. He passed. Mccain knows foreign policy, Barack got a passing grade. I think their second debate will be different.
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ChocolateBrownGa1
Comment: Barack has to be up at least 8% points in polls to win in Nov. All of those 'other' folks who support Barack now may have a hard time actually pulling the lever for him. If the race tied or Barack is only up by 2 points....Hello President Mccain.
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bigned69
Comment: I'm with you, Nat...im going thru insomnia right now. Be back when it's 400+ deep up in hurr.
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bigned69
Comment: good to see you, choco brown, hope all is well with you.
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Taurusingr
Comment: I STILL say?..."they" have started their cheatin strategy with this "so close"/"almost" B.S.!!! 51 to 49??? Yeah, just enough for Obama so the LIE will/can be believed! We better watch these cheatin as-s mo fo's, remember!, "they" are the same mo fo's who told us...No! Rodney King didn't get kicked!, he threw his head against Ted Brusinio's boot"!! They are B.S.lying artist! Let us NEVER forget "that" shyt!! With all the new voters coming out for Obama?, who also outnumber the Republicans? HTF can it be so damn close!?? WTF!!??? I'm tellin yall...."the "fix" is ALREADY in!!! In the words of Ice Cube??.."Watchem Watchem"!!! Holla!
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FiveMore
Comment: Uhmmm....who decides to switch up the poll numbers and why should the public be swayed by the polls that some "mysterious entity" creates on a whim? I have no faith in polls because the creators always seem to throw soemthing together when it is convenient for their side. Taurusingr, yeah, I know that they all about scheming on a come up!Go Obama anyway!
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shulamite
Comment: Barack won on the economy. He and McCain were tied on Foreign Policy knowledge. In fact, Barack showed a deeper nuanced understanding of geopolitics than McCain, BUT McCain owned the "experience because I've actually been to these places over the past 50 years" image. Unfortunately, Americans don't appreciate careful thinking (Barack) but they do understand image. So, John McCain won Foreign Policy, but Barack showed that he knew enough to be credible and act in the best interest of the American people. On presentation, Barack won hands down. McCain looked ticked and half crazed the whole time ("when I look into Putin's eyes I see KGB" - WTH??). Now I see where Palin got her Putin comment from. Barack looked like a collegial professor. So overall... I give it to Barack.
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shulamite
Comment: The loser of the debate: Michelle Obama. I love the lady to pieces, but I want her to allow the campaign to dress her. Cindy looked like a first lady. Michelle... not so much. The print made her look frumpy and larger than she actually is. Girl, go find that suit you wore on the August cover of Ebony and wear that to the next debate, sis!
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Reds
Comment: Early voting and absentee ballot are two of the best strategies the Democrats have at their disposal to combat Republicans tactics to disenfranchise voters on Election Day. But this won’t be as effective if the Republicans have their way. “A battle over early voting in Ohio has brought a law passed by that state's Republican-controlled legislature three years ago to be challenged by the GOP before a federal court, while a separate lawsuit brought before the Republican-dominated Ohio Supreme Court is expected to be decided Monday. ….The one-stop voting Tuesday through Oct. 6 would be especially convenient for those Democratic-leaning voters who have traditionally had more trouble getting to the polls. ...On Wednesday, the American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio filed a lawsuit asking a federal court in Cleveland to declare that newly-registered Ohio voters must be allowed to vote absentee….Meanwhile, on Friday the Ohio GOP filed a federal lawsuit to challenge the early voting period. Republicans say state law does not allow same-day registration and voting.” http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/28/politics/mai n4483617.shtml
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fanteeking
Comment: Ole Bill Clinton is still campaigning for Hillary and can't seem to open his mouth and say the name "Obama". I used to think that he wuz one "cool white boy" but I guess thatz a "PIGMENT" of my imagination?
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CaliRedbone
Comment: shulamite ... yeah, I was wondering about that busy' dress Michelle had on, made me dizzy, maybe that was some sort of plan of distraction...LOL
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TGen
Comment: Some really good pov's here thus far. I'm pretty much along the thinking of TokyoJoe and Shulamite (though I don't concede that McCain "owned" Barack on the foreign policy issue at all). I agree that BO had some missed opportunities, one that sticks out in my mind is when McCain tried that UNBELIEVABLE "he's just as stubborn as Bush and won't admit a mistake" thing, lol. That was a PERFECT time for BO to bring up McCain's temperament, which is now the big elephant in the room, and it would have been especially effective to tie it to Mac's erratic behavior coming into the debate. But those kind of things are done by people who fight from the gut not from the head like BO. So while on points it was a tie imo, the thing that tipped the scale towards BO was most absolutely the visuals (demeanor, respect, etc.) McCain's "he just doesn't understand" ish almost made me come through the screen, lol, was INFURIATING, although I knew it was payback for BO's "he just doesn't get it" during the DNC. Add the fact that JM didn't even look at the man, even when they shook hands at the beginning and end, and you have someone unable to hide his disdain. Not a good look at all. So a TKO (wish it was a KO but oh well) for BO. Now let's see if Biden can step up and make up for all his stupid gaffes on Thursday...
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shulamite
Comment: fanteeking --> Clinton is an enigma for sure. He is tepid about Obama personally and I think he truly feels that way. But, he may be filling a critical role in this way: "Yeah, I'm white, the kind of white that identifies with white, hardworking people, and I don't know Obama personally, and I'm not over the moon about him. BUT, with all my "comfort-level" reservations I have about Obama on a personal level, his policies are still the best hope we have for this country and I - your skeptical hardworking white compatriot - am still voting for him.". I think Clinton may have this (unintended?) effect, which is a net plus for Obama (and is sorely needed, since someone from the Democrats has to engage on the fence racists). Like someone mentioned, I wouldn't be surprised if now (esp. with all of Palin's gaffes) that we see a reverse Bradley effect. White folks avowing support for McCain with their friends and in the polls, pulling the lever for Obama instead.
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DawnDuhDuh
Comment: Obama won me over with his economic plan and his demeanor. John McCain looked stiff, pompous, and cocky. And though he tried to tweak his answers to appeal to the masses, it still sounded like "same ol' same ol'" to me. Barrack had great counter points on both the economy and foreign policy and I have no doubt that he can lead this country and put some shine on how the U.S. is perceived abroad.
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javone77
Comment: Aw naw...in the words of papa Klump...."That is some scary %*$!!" LOL
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Penelope
Comment: Good morning everyone! I enjoyed the debate, but I did/do have a problem with Senator Obama...I wish he would 'bring it'...he's being too nice, and b/c he wants to avoid mud slinging. I wish he would just be a bit more agressive. Its not like McCain isn't. There were several opportunities when Obama could have really scored on McCain during the debate, but he didn't. I wonder why.
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DawnDuhDuh
Comment: P.S. I can't wait for the VP debate; it should be pure comedy!!
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Penelope
Comment: Dawn...the comedy was Katie Couric's interview of Palin. Now that was really funny.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: increasingly, anything that Bclinton says sounds like JMc endorsements . . . . . during the debate, JMc kept telling BHO that he didn't understand despite BHO's plain English points of view on the economy and foreign affairs: oh, yeah, BHO gets it and knows that JMc will continue the dubya/neocon agenda . . . . . . BHO did not talk hard enough on economic issues, spending too much time on that earmark amd corporate tax break territory that JMc likes to yak about . . . . . last week, when JMc postured about "suspending" his campaign and getting caught in his lie about his emergency return to Washington thanks largely to Letterman, JMc looked decidedly unpresidential . . . . . . now that the dust is settling on JMc's posturing, I wonder whether the posturing stunt including "postponing" the Friday debate was an attempt to cancel out the veep debate: the postponed prez debate would have been held this week with no room for re-scheduling the veep debate
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goodnplenty1957
Comment: i think what people are forgetting when it comes to these polls..they are counting up the popular vote, not the electorial college vote. if you do the math by each state and its electorial vote, Obama is still ahead, and even if those swing states are split, BO is still ahead..told you before..start getting use to saying POTUS BARACK OBAMA, THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. (EFF Bill Clinton).
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JGGIRL
Comment: Can you believe the nerve of Fix News? ALL of the other networks had Barack winning the polls and Fix comes out with 84% for McCain? How in the world can they even pretend to be fair and unbalanced! I was really, really impressed with Barack's foreign policy knowlege. I think he gave a lot of undecided voters confidence that he can do the job.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: Michelle's style is impeccable and that dress that she wore at the debate was sexy to death as it emphasized her very female curves . . . . . . Michelle is not and should not try to be like Geriatric Barbie in any aspect . . . . . . it’s about time that we curvaceous sistas are represented via a high profile, intelligent, beautiful role model . . . . . I loved the way that the Obamas embraced after the debate, showing their mutual love
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javone77
Comment: I think like all the other people I heard....a tie between barack and mccain is a win for obama. no one except us believed that obama would hold his ground on foreign affairs, because up until now, they were listening to mccains consistently saying that obama knew nothing. now people see that he does. BTW, they spoke to the guy's mom who gave the bracelet to obama...she said that she was ecstatic that he remembered her son. even though she asked him not to mention him during debates and speeches...she was grateful because he mentioned him in response to mccains pandering about his bracelet.Classy lady......I feel for her and every other mother who has lost a child, brother, husband, father, daughter, wife, etc.
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Sexee
Comment: Tokyo_Jo ~ I have to agree. The debate was tepid. Barack had numerous chances to put McLame in his case, but why didn't he? It's time to put him and the white trash Palin in their places.
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javone77
Comment: JGGirl: that's the point...fixed news has never tried to appear fair and balanced LOL did anyone see SNL on saturday? LOL They mocked the couric/palin interview. Palin asked couric if she could use one of her life lines and phone a friend ROFL
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TGen
Comment: HarrisThomas, I concur. I saw nothing at all wrong with MO's dress at the debate. I found it refreshing she was bold enough to go for pattern instead of doing the solid-color thing.
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Grace12_34
Comment: @Shulamite------>>> Thank GOODNESS somebody said it!!! She needs to stay AWAY from prints altogether. Hopefully, for the next debate, Michelle will opt for "the little black dress" with pearls. I hated the way she looked. Not only did Cindy look like a First Lady, but she was wearing the POWER color===RED!!
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javone77
Comment: Sexee and tokyo Joe: I can't remember who said it...I think it was Rachel Maddow....Obama was really aggressive at the beginning...but mccain took him off his game by not looking at him and never speaking to him...just at him. However, I think Obama won a LOT pf points when he looked John Mccain dead in the eye and told him that he was wrong....SEVERAL times.
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shulamite
Comment: HarrisThomas, I beg to differ on Michele's dress (not that it really matters for Obama's election). Generally, you don't wear prints to political functions or in a courtroom. She has a wonderful, curvaceous shape that she should show off but my suggestion is that she do so in a single color as she did at the "fist-bump" primary celebration in that purple dress). Solids are always safe.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: JGGirl, Fixed News polled that small, narrow minded group of neocon repugs instead of a cross section of whomever . . . . . Penelope, BHO wasn't being nice: whenever BHO agreed with JMc, he was showing a willingness to accept accurate points of view no matter the source while on the other hand, JMC was being too nasty to accept BHO's truths despite the fact that JMc claims years of "reaching across the aisle"
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JGGIRL
Comment: Gallup Daily: Obama Moves to 50% to 42% Lead September 28, 2008
Barack Obama leads John McCain, 50% to 42%, among registered voters in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday -- just one point shy of his strongest showing of the year.
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shulamite
Comment: You also don't wear prints on television. Go for solid colors with minimal texture, instead.
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javone77
Comment: SMART move by Biden!!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/28/obama- biden-camp-hypes-palin%e2%80%99s-debating-skills/
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Grace12_34
Comment: I co-sign 100% with Shulamite. That "look" of Michelle's had to GO!!! I hope we NEVER see that again!!!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: shulamite, solids may be safe for you but not for Michelle . . . . . like Barack, Michelle represents change and that change is in every aspect . . . . . now, I respectfully submit this question to everybody: why the fvck are we having a superficial conversation about clothes? Michelle is not all of the First Ladies whose shoulders she will stand on and as she stands on those shoulders, her style should be refreshingly her own
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javone77
Comment: Harris: LOL I'm with ya. LOL I clocked the dress, and kept it moving. I was too busy basking in the pakistani glow LOL
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shulamite
Comment: Alright. I'll take the flame bait. It's early yet. :-) Flav-of-Flav has a style that is refreshingly his own. But he looks like he has no credibility. Obviously, Michelle can do what she wants in the name of individuality, but there's a reason public relations handlers dress people in certain "failsafe" ways. They are trained and paid VERY well to understand and pander to the American psyche. And the American psyche wants a first lady to look as ready for her role as the president does his. Cindy was on point. Michelle (this time) was not. Howard Dean's war rallying "whoop" in 2004 was a style of his own - but it cost him the primary.
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Grace12_34
Comment: And thanks to those public relations handlers, if Barack wins in November, Michelle will be prevented from expressing such "individuality" in the future!
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javone77
Comment: Ok...I think some of you are missing the point. Cindy looked like a million bucks because she was probably wearing it literally LOL driving home the "I'm so rich I have no idea how many houses I own" mantra. Michelle dispelled the elitist mantra by wearing a dress that she looks like she bought down at the piggly wiggly when she ran in to get some pork skins and hot sauce LOL
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Grace12_34
Comment: No matter what Michelle's motive was for wearing that horrible dress, I'll bet even SHE cringed when she saw how she looked from the back as she embraced her husband on national television. Her as.s looked like it was spreading from sea to shining sea.
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shulamite
Comment: "Michelle dispelled the elitist mantra by wearing a dress that she looks like she bought down at the piggly wiggly when she ran in to get some pork skins and hot sauce" LOL! But seriously, you don't see a problem with that? he white folks who call her elitist aren't voting for Barack anyway. But the rest of the folks who may vote for Barack don't want a 1st Lady looking like a countyr hick or a Piggly Wiggly baby mamma. Notice the makeover Laura Bush got in the 2000 race. She truly looked like a PTA mom rolled off the shelf, but they straightened her up fast, and she looks great everytime I see her. Too bad the PR folks couldn't help George, though.
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DawnDuhDuh
Comment: I thought that it was great that Biden was on hand to back Obama up after the debate and Palin was no where to be found.
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shulamite
Comment: Anyway, back to politics. Barack did well, and I'm proud of him. I think he is doing fine. Just needs to hold course and the Dems grassroots need to fight on the ground to prevent election fraud and voter suppresion.
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FiveMore
Comment: I often wondered does she have a personal stylist and if she does, why do they allow her to take risk with the wardrobe and makeup? During the DNC broadcast, I was offended by the grinch like eyebrow arch that made her look kinda sleepy eyed. They never let Barack walk around looking odd or unkempt(Michelle doesn't look unkempt but I have a problem with those so called makeup/clothing stylist), so why do they try to make her look a little bit over the top. Image is everything!Does she look like a first lady and of course, they will compare her to CM.Some posters have even hinted to CM's dress style on this board. Michelle needs a new stylist right now.
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javone77
Comment: Dawn: Palin was in philly answering questions in which she agreed with obama about getting into pakistan. Mccain came out on sunday to retract her statements. ROFL Lord. Ya'll PLEASE watch the SNL palin/couric skit. Lord have mercy!
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Dawnduh, they probably didn't have Palin there 'cause they know she would embarrass herself and the GOP. Ol' girl is straight up brain dead on any question she is asked! Taurus, the world will be shocked come Nov. 4. Those polls only respesent a smidgeon of what's actually out there and you know they don't even get to us. How you doin' today? :-)
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Hey, people! October 10, 2008 is the last day to file for registering to vote in NYC. If you aren't registered, you must go to the Board of Elections Please register. Here are some links:
New York: http://www.vote.nyc.ny.us/
Maryland: http://www.elections.state.md.us/
Hamilton County, Ohio: http://www.hamilton-co.org/BOE/
North Carolina Board of Elections: http://www.sboe.state.nc.us/
Illinois: http://www.elections.state.il.us/
Rhode Island: http://www.elections.state.ri.us/
Virginia: http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/cms/
District of Columbia (D.C.): http://www.dcboee.org/
Chicago: http://www.chicagoelections.com/
Oklahoma: http://www.ok.gov/~elections/
Delaware: http://elections.delaware.gov/
The State of Kentucky: http://www.elect.ky.gov/
It is imperative that all unregistered voters register. Our very existence depends on it.
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shulamite
Comment: FiveMore --> She is known to dress herself (her signature character trait). Even the Ebony editorial for her August 2008 cover mentioned her insistence on that, which is fine WHEN she gets it right (as she did on that cover). My problem is that she is hit-or-miss, and at this stage in the game she shouldn't be.
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Sexee
Comment: Javone77 ~ Obama tried a subtle form of provocation by calling him "John" instead of "Senator". There was a huge underlying struggle for supremacy that was happening that hit in a major way. McLame tried to hone it but McLame can not ignore the elephant in the room. Although he is telling his supports to do so, we will be in an even bigger financial crunch if McLame and white trash Palin get elected.
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TGen
Comment: The dress was not the best, but it wasn't the worst thing ever either, like some are making it seem, lol. Here's someone with a differnt take (pics included): http://mrsgrapevine.com/2008/09/michelle-os-floral-deb ate-dress-chanel-iman-made-gucci-history/ And here's someone who thinks print is just fine for TV, if done the right way. http://showhype.com/story/michelle_obama_s_dnc_floral_ dress_was_thakoon_all_the/ I'll add that the dress MO won on "The View" was print, and it was a knockout. So there. lol P.S. But like someone said, who cares???
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shulamite
Comment: Sexee --> that's a great point re "John" v. "Senator". Barack was as cool as a cucumber, but stung like a bee. Speaking of Palin, she got shut down by McCain in three different ways since that Couric interview: 1. He flew into Miss on the McCain plane, not the McCain/Palin plane 2. He had Rudy speak for him post debate, a role that is supposed to be the VP's role, and he and Rudy did a photop together while boarding the McCain plane on the return trip. 3. He completey backpedaled her Pakistani statement that agreed with Barack without even as much as saying that he respected her opinion. He can't take her off the ticket now (too late, since early voting has started) but he is definitely "putting her in her place". A sad day for women, but like a nut she fell for the "you're qualified" okey-dokey he sold her.
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shulamite
Comment: "The View" is an informal talk show, not a Presidential function. Big difference.
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smurfy
Comment: good morning,
the video gave me chills, but am not worried cause like i told yall before, mccain and cindy aint going to the white house...barack will be the next president of the united states...and shulamite, girl you are so right, michelle's outfit wasn't "pulled together" like a future first lady's outfits should be....and if you think about it.....cindy mccain does present a more polished looked - every time!
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Said I was gonna postpone posting until AFTER the election...but who in the he11 am I fooling?...I watched the debate... Cain took it back to letters from Ike, conversations from FDR...He stayed on Regan's pipe...I thought the muthafuccer was gonna take it back to conversations he had with George Washington...He came off as a disrepectful, set in his ways, old man...I coulda sworn I heard him say "How dare this, this nigra stand heah and debate me...He couldn't hide his distain for Rak...He didn't look at him one time...A scary thought: Had Cain came off as a wise old, Grandfatherly type...He woulda took that debate...He was sweating and sh1t...He reminded me of some old films of Nixon and his debate with JFK...Rak had opps to go for the jugular but he backed off...That's not his style...Victory, WTF?...Gen Petreus(sp) said last nite...That victory won't mean taking a hill and raising the flag and the soldiers comming home to a ticker-tape parade and sh1t...I'm paraphrasing here...Cain dosent' get that....Apparently his azz didn't understand strategy all that well or his azz wouldn't have got shot down...Yo, I'm just glad Rak kept his cool and didn't go off...If wouldn't have looked good if he just knocked that old, evil man off the stage...The world ain't scared of US like the days Cain longs for...Everybody gotta nuke or nukes...Just can't cant strong arm countries anymore...Cain dosen't get that....
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TGen
Comment: "The View" is an informal talk show, not a Presidential function. Big difference" seems to contradict this "You also don't wear prints on television." I could have sworn BOTH were "on televison," lol. But again, who cares???
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JGGIRL
Comment: Another Bank goes under - Wachovia!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: MOTHERSHIP, thanks for reminding people that they can not vote in this historic election unless they register . . . . . to those who watch and dissect Michelle's image presentations, do you ever ask yourselves why the cameras tend to do closer ups and scans of Michelle? do you remember ever seeing an up close view of Cindy's backside?
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Michelle's butt looked fine to me..."No dis Rak"...My people crack me up...History is being made and what we talking 'bout?...Michelle's dress...Check out the way each man's wife embraced him...Cain's wife seemed timid, unsure- like "Is he gonna hug me or push me out the way?"...Chelle and Rak much more natural...You can tell there's a lot of support there...
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TGen
Comment: Great post Boot. "Cain doestn't get it" for sure, just like BO tried to tell people, lol
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shulamite
Comment: TGen, it generally is NOT a good idea to wear prints on TV unless you are stick thin (and that is a maybe, depending on the print). But, perhaps she got away with it becuase the dress was in style and the rest of the hostesses excpeting Walters roll up in anything (He11, next to Whoopie's jeans and tennis, anyone looks good). And, I reiterate, "The View" is NOT a formal Presidential function. It doesn't take an Einstein to figure that out. As far as relevance, it doens't matter to you or I b/c they already have our votes. It matters to people who aren't familiar with decent black folks. But for you to pretend that image doesn't matter in formal settings solely for the sake of tripping me up in this discussion is silly.
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TGen
Comment: JGGirl, OMG. That's my territory. Wow. One thing that should calm fears though, if there's anyone else reading this who has busines with Wachovia like me: "The FDIC says Wachovia didn't fail, and that all depositors are protected and there will be no cost to the Deposit Insurance Fund." http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080929/wachovia_citigroup.html ?.v=1 Still though, I concede this is horrible, another giant fallen. This is surreal, almost unbelievable what's happening to our country right now. Wow...
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shulamite
Comment: Related to image of black folks, I wanted to give props to TVLand for running the best of the Cosby Show nonstop this weekend. Perhaps their programming manager wants to give America a timely alternative Flavor of Love?
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: You're welcome, Harris. J, Wachovia went under? Sen. Obama has a lot of work to do to clean up this mess. It'll take him at least 8 years. The Bush legacy will be a legacy of corruption, circumvention and will forever be known at the administration that brought Amerikka to the brink. But this is just the beginining. Rome is about to fall. This country will become a third world country in 5 to 10 years if Obama isn't elected. Don't sleep, this shyt is serious.
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shulamite
Comment: "do you ever ask yourselves why the cameras tend to do closer ups and scans of Michelle?" Good question. And all the more reason to make oneself camera friendly EVERY time one is in front of the camera.
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bigchassie
Comment: I watched some of the debate and i say Obama held his own. and of course faux news are gonna say mcslain won the debate. faux news have some sort of vendetta against Obama but faux new is just a little insigificant news network so i don't even pay them any attention. CNN is honest and give you strait facts. for Michele Obama, the lady is beautiful no matter what she wears. what she wears is because SHE likes it. she dresses for herself. some folks are not going to like it and others like it. the main thing is how SHE thinks she looks in it. everybody don't dress like Cindy mcslain cause everybody don't have 100 million and can spend 300,000 on a suit. and besides if Obama thinks his wife looks good in anything his wife wears then, that is the important thing and that is good for me too. Go on Michelle, Do your thing gurl! i know one thing, she was workin that red dress when Roland Martin was interviewing her. she has georgous legs! the camera was right on it too! lol!
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bigchassie
Comment: TOMORROW IS SEPT 30! DON'T FORGET TO WEAR YOUR BLUE FOR OBAMA!
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Tell it, Chassie!! LOL!
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Grace12_34
Comment: Casting directors have always told me not to dress my daughter in white, stripes or prints when she gets her head shots done or when she reports for a screen test. There is a REASON for that, and it became quite clear Friday night!
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TGen
Comment: Shula, point taken. But I wasn't trying to "trip you up" (well maybe a little, lol). But my larger aim was just to provide balance because I think you were overly harsh in your criticsm. And you're right that "image matters," but given that she had what a 20-second spot on TV during that debate, it's not really something to be alarmed about. Now, I do agree with whoever said she needs to something about those problem eyebrows, lol, but anywho, back to more substantive issues...
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Yeah, on "Conversations" last night, Michelle handled her business with Roland Martin. She was straight up. She said "we have to remain the same people we are, we're not (her and Barack) going to wake up one morning and ask each other who are you? She said she will continue to speak her mind when confronted with the dumb shyt, basically.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Citigroup to acquire Wachovia banking operations
Atlanta’s second-largest bank, Wachovia Corp., will be sold to Citigroup in a deal facilitated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
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TGen
Comment: BigChassie: "and besides if Obama thinks his wife looks good in anything his wife wears then, that is the important thing and that is good for me too." Exactly. Go to that website I posted http://mrsgrapevine.com, and see how adoringly he's looking at his wife. :)
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HarrisThomas
Comment: agree, B00T, the Obamas are routinely shown affectionalately touching each other while the man who called his wife a nasty name in public, only touches her if he has to . . . . . for those who obviously care, ask yourself whether you have gotten hung up on "white style" and "white image making" . . . . . Sexee, you are on point about the battle for control during the debate which was evidenced with JMc constantly telling BHO "you don't understand" . . . . . . great observation, BOOT, about whether JMc would have been considered the "winner" for the debate if JMc had looked grandfatherly instead of grouchy/nasty and you know what?, if JMc tries the grandfatherly approach, the generational political gap will kick in with people, young and old, wondering whether JMc has the stamina to hold the office: it did not help that JMc wanted to stop everything to work solely on the bailout as though a president in wartime can stop everything for one thing even if that one thing is economic meltdown
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shulamite
Comment: The next time you prepare for a job interview, read the book "Blink". That will shed light on what I'm getting at and why it can matter for a presidential campaign.
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DawnDuhDuh
Comment: Javone77, I missed that one. Was she answering questions right after the debate Friday night? I did see the Saturday Night Live skits and they were hilarious!! That "lifeline" request was a hoot!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: correction: president in wartime can not stop everything for one thing even if that one thing is economic meltdown
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Well, I guess it's back to hiding money in the coffee can...Sh1t, it worked for grandma...She was never broke...Always had money...Money in the matress...
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HarrisThomas
Comment: shulamite, do whatever you must to be accepted by as many as possible, but don't think that your approach to acceptance and approval has to be the path for those of us who succeed without the formula that you use
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javone77
Comment: dawn: yes. she went to this place in philly to get a cheesesteak and some people in the restaraunt were asking her questions LOL
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TGen
Comment: Boot, normally that would be funny, but today (sadly) it seems like not such a bad idea. Smh Better hide your money somewhere it seems...
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bigchassie
Comment: TGEN/MOTHERSHIP>I know that's right! that man can eat her up! (and probally does! lol! *blushing and quiet snicker*)but i tell yall, i love to see this beautiful couple together. one thing i can say, they are a very good looking couple. both are very attractive! and if they look good to one another that's all that matters. Michelle is Barack's queen in his eyes and Barack is Michelle's man of her dreams and they are truly meant for one another. you can truly Tell God put them together. wonderful combination! you can tell when they are together. *girliesigh*
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ....Hmmm according to some polls..Cain has a slight lead among men while Rak has a large lead among women...Imma quote huey here,,,,Women love that bed-rak....
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shulamite
Comment: TGen and Boot, what the bailout is trying to prevent is people making a "run" on banks (which actually contributed to WashMu's failure) and hiding stuff in the house. When that happens en masse, all he11 will break loose. I tink that is what some legislators want to avoid.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: B00T, it won't matter where money is kept if the money is not worth much . . . . . in addition to bank failures, think about how much the dollar will be worth if countries who own our debt, like China and Mexico, send everything including the worth of the dollar into a tailspin by asking for payment on their IOUs . . . . . the big mortgage bailout does not get our country out of the very deep economic doodah that we are swishing around our knees
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bigchassie
Comment: TGEN/MOTHERSHIP>now with cindy and john mcslane, they look mismatched. like putting plastic barbie with the pillsbury dough boy. they look so off!
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CRENEEJ
Comment: i think the debate was a draw.... i think BO shoulda jumped on the opportunities he was given, but didn't. and i dunno bout the rest of yall, but i haven't been suffering financially for the last 8 years... i really had to stop and think about when things started taking a downturn for me personally, and it was in the last year or so. had food prices been rising 5-6 years ago, and i just not notice? and i do think the economy is sound (in theory) if it worked the way it should (w/o corporate greed), and there were caps on salaries and the lot. i'ma just say that i don't think that anyone should be earning more than the president. 400K per year that includes athletes and entertainers. do we really need to pay someone 10 million dollars a year to dunk a ball? what happens when more and more banks fail? i agree w/ whoever said we're on our way to being a 3rd world country, and that may be what helps us to realize we don't have to have and do all of the things we do.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: javone and dawn...You know, Sarah don't know how to order a cheesesteak...She probably has the counterperson all confused...
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JGGIRL
Comment: Dawn, Palin did not speak on TV after the debates like Biden did for Barack. McCain chose Rudy G to speak for him. Palin was at a viewing "party".
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CRENEEJ
Comment: so Harris, what happens if we can't pay Mexico and China?
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bigchassie
Comment: SHULMITE> i know that's right. that reminds me of that bank in California that had a lot of folks in line waiting to get their money out.
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bigchassie
Comment: now bring on paleface and Biden. that man is gonna eat her alive thursday night!
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TGen
Comment: I was being facetious Shula (think Boot was too), but you're right. That's what they're trying to avoid, but real talk, at some point, people's (especially older people's) survival instincts start to kick in, and the more they hear of all this influx, more change than they can handle, the more apt they are to try to keep their dollars in-hand. Bigchassie, so true. But you can't expect the McCains to exude the same genuineness of the Obamas, given that Cindy was at one time the homewrecking mistress and JMac was a jerk to a crippled wife, lol. Creenj: "on our way to being a 3rd world country, and that may be what helps us to realize we don't have to have and do all of the things we do." Someone else mentioned that to me yesterday. There may be something to that. *sigh*
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javone77
Comment: Boot!!! what's up?!?!? I I am glad you decided to come back to us! :)
Chassie: I KNOW you didn't just elude to what I THINK you eluded to. LOL
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musbdherbs
Comment: Aiight..won't even get into 'chelle's dress cuz it looked fine to me. But I'ma man so those sorta things are irrelevant. One thing I can say is that there is a "standard" way that First Lady's should look like. It is usually based on what we've seen...yt skinny women. Obama had his best debate on friday. He was knowledgeable and most of all..didn't come in w/a bunch of uhms (which never really bothered me). I know this tho'...McCain is an anuerysm away from calling obama "boy" or 'nig ger.' That man is go blow a gasket b4 it's over. What's up w/these repubs...Steve Schmidt seemed like he wanted to smack the shyt outta Axelrod and Fmr. Rep Schaffer was ready to tazer Udall. And Bill...*sigh*..every damn I'm ready to cut him some slack..he comes w/more bullshyt. As a politician...he knows dman well that being able to explain the greatness of your opposition and not who you are for is not a good thing. Fk outta here..implying that because you only talked to Obama once is not justification for not being able to be as glowing in your accolades as u were w/McCain/Palin. Now I wish he would go away again.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: last comment on clothes at the debate: Michelle's style does not not have to change, so get over it . . . . . . in terms of style, Michelle is constantly compared to Jackie KO, our former lady who received many style kudos [is that white enough for ya] . . . . . the only reason for complaints about Michelle's dress on Friday is that it strikes some as being a little too ethnic [showing her curves and not being plain/solid colored, therefore, "busy"]
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javone77
Comment: Mus: ROFL you ain't lied LOL I saw this chick named nicole from mccains camp on morning joe last week and she was so rude to robert Gibbs....I wanted to go on the show and hit that %*$!( square in the mouth LOL and I too saw how mccain was about to blow the %*$! up. you could tell...he was bout to ack ( yes.....ACK) a FOOL! lol I was waiting on that %*$! LOL
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musbdherbs
Comment: Crenee..what is 'sound' about the economy in your opinion? That's an interesting take considering that Wachovia is the next victim. That's another financial institution w/in two weeks. Also, stop playing...why pay an athlete 10million? I would say it's because of revenue. Considering how much money athletes make for these teams...where exactly should the revenue go if not to the people who are responsibile for it? Just wondering...
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HarrisThomas
Comment: a 1930's style depression, for real - Name: CRENEEJ Comment: so Harris, what happens if we can't pay Mexico and China?
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shulamite
Comment: HarrisThomas, respectfully, when did this become about me and my need to disply (yet again on this board) some type of "black card"? One doesn't always need to follow a particular formula for everyday life (it's true that I have a preferred mold, as we all, do but I'm not wedded to it). But TGen made an important point. We saw Michelle for all of 20 seconds. We all noticed what she had on and formed an opinion (whether we liked it or not). And in cases like that, on a Presidential level, where those 20 seconds count volumes ("Blink" gives people 30 seconds), following the "formula" is a better bet than not becuase it catches the target audience in more numbers - and in this election the numbers are critical. If formula doesn't matter, why doesn't McCain lay off the makeup let us image his left side and show his radical melanoma resection in all its glory to the world? Because it displays his (imminent) mortality and reminds his base of an uncomfortable truth. If formula doesn't matter, why did Barack start wearing his flag pin and throw 4 flags behind him when he speaks? He needs to look an American and look like a leader. Why DID Cindy McCain wear red? Becuase her husband wore black/blue with a white shirt. The good old red, white a blue will never fail you.
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musbdherbs
Comment: BTW...add another notch to the 70% of black babies born out of wedlock travesty. Babyface just had one.
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TGen
Comment: Musb, great post. This: "McCain is an anuerysm away from calling obama "boy" or 'nig ger.'" OMG, I was thinking the SAME thing! That ish had racial undertones for real. On "MTP," I didn't hear a lot about it, but I think it's HIGH time Brokaw is replaced. Did you see how he cloed that Axelrod/Schmidt segment? Reading that stupid non-relevant poll? It was horrible, he cannot hide his disdain for BO for some reason. Here's a lil something I found on it, but not much else (at least not much the firewalls will allow me to read, lol) http://beltwayblips.com/story/tom_brokaw_s_bizarre_ide a_of_what_fairness_required/. Anywho,
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HarrisThomas
Comment: shulamite, let go of the ego trip to cut through the crap to deal with what really matters . . . . . Americans, including deluded blacks, voted for dubya in the last election and the result is such that President Obama will be in fix it mode before he can ever began making good on the positives in his platform and it is to his credit that he acknowledges that fixing will be taking up his first term
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shulamite
Comment: HarrisThomas, you didn't answer the question. Why does Barack stand before his flags? Why does McCain only photograph from his right side and have a ton of makeup on when doing it? Before Barack does all that we hope he can for the economy, he has to GET ELECTED. And Michelle, for better worse, is a part of that effort.
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TGen
Comment: Re BClinton, someone should call him on his unadulterated praise of McCain next time, ask him how he has sooo much respect for a man who called his then thirteen year old daughter "ugly" (his exact word). I would looove to hear an explanation from the former president turned red-faced hater. P.S. I bet if you got a body language expert to see his interview with Brokaw and how he struggled to use the "admire" word for BO and when he finally did, his eyes moved to the left and to the floor, they'd tell you he was definitely lying through hit teeth.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: >HT...Chelle can't hide those swerves and curves....Shul and HT, I've coverted my paper into gold and it's better hidden that a leprchauns pot of gold....or course I'm being facetious (Hiding coffee pot fulla money)...
I've already made my run...
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVONNE>*wicked snicker* i did! heee-hee! i's badddd! TGEN>You so right. that is true. they don't come even close. to be honest, i would like to know what did mcslain's first wife looked like. he dogged her out! ole bastid!
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shulamite
Comment: "better or worse" - sorry...
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bigchassie
Comment: HARRISTHOMAS>far as Michelle's dress style goes, my only wish is that i hope and pray that black desginer that did Jennifer Hudson's dress for the Oscars don't get ahold of her. what's his name?? Tally sumphin?
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SpecialK
Comment: Boot: LMAO!!!!!! Loved that remark about him taking it back to conversations with George Washington. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: >HT....China will get their money...Mexico will just stop sending workers over here...You'll be picking your own produce and doing your own landscaping...Oh yeah, China's gonna get their money or the next great wall will be built right here...
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musbdherbs
Comment: Oh LAWD...Shula/HT..both of you have valid points. Yes, 'chelle's individuality does work for her and against her. There are standards followed w/everyone in politics in an effort to not look "too" much of nething. Usually it does vary according to the race/size of the person. As w/the fist bump, people (america) are gonna have to become accustomed to the cultural differences the Obama camp brings. Some we'll agree w/...some we will not. TGEN...I thought i was the only one who caught that. I was eating some french toast (yep my fat azz always eating some'n) and had to rewind the damn tape. After allowing Axelrod and Schmidt to have an unnecessary boxing match...he ended by saying some shyt like..."well in all fairness, polls suggest that McCain is more qualified to lead." It didn't follow any sort of journalistic prudence and came completely out of nowhere. It really was a WTF moment.
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SpecialK
Comment: SNL did two good skits. One was with Sarah Palin and the other was Bill Clinton supposedly endorsing Obama. Funny as hell!!!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: B00T, gold is a better deal than the dollar but even gold is not absolute because its commodity value flucuates . . . . . shula, the flag thing is a distraction created for sheeple who believe that BHO is alien other, not a US citizen
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HarrisThomas
Comment: chassie, Michelle's clothes are already setting fashion trends, so, no, Michlle won't be wearing JHud styles no matter who is the designer
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bigchassie
Comment: SPECIALK>aww shoot! i hate i missed it! i bet it was good!
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Reds
Comment: The debate was another indictment of the media’s support for McCain and its willingness to give him a pass at every opportunity. The fact that it was moderated by PBS, a supposedly more objective journalistic voice, didn’t seem to matter. McCain was allowed to continue with the false surge success argument with no fear of even a challenge. Obama, on the other hand had to let him have his way, since if he spoke the truth about the surge he would be crucified in the media. This is really amazing since there is not a single study to support McCain’s claim, while all the evidence points to other factors in reducing the violence. Namely the Sadr cease fire, putting the Sunni insurgents on the US payroll, and ethnic cleansing. A UCLA study is the latest to support this, “UCLA study of satellite imagery casts doubt on surge's success in Baghdad” http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/ucla-study-of-sat ellite-imagery-62852.aspx Obama and the handful of surrogates he has in the media really need to keep up the pressure. The 527s, 501c3s and 4s now have to reaally get in the thick. Moveon.org is finally stepping up to the plate. They realesed an ad on the economy ‘McCain's Friends' Mess’ moveon.org.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Chassie, Leon Talley from Vogue! Dude was walkin' around NYC last week at Fashion Week in bedroom slippers with the toe out with a suit on! LMBAO! It's like WTF??? Dude is slippin' big time!!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: McDonald's is falling credit victim to the banking crisis: http://adage.com/article?article_id=131320
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...>SpecialK, the way he was dropping names "As a child I used to fly kites with Benjamin Franklin"... LMBAO!!!!It was funny the way he was trembling and sh1t...You know he was holding back saying "N- shut the fucc up, can't you see a Whiteman is talking!!!!"...The way Cain was grasping onto that podium you know he wanted to rip up some sh1t...
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bigchassie
Comment: MOTHERSHIP>WHAT???!! AWWHEYELLNAWW!! and this crazy idiot had the audasity to say he wanted to dress Michelle Obama! he better not come one inch of her!!
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bigchassie
Comment: HARRISTHOMAS>McDonalds?? aww heyell now you know it's gettin really bad!!
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JGGIRL
Comment: McCain's first wife was beautiful when he married her. She was also a model. But after the accident her looks changed. So McCain had to find another beauty to replace her.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Hell, that post ^ was meant for another board! Damnit!!
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javone77
Comment: chassie: what makes it bad is that dude is not a fashion designer,...I think he's a stylist or trends for vogue....somebody correct me if i AM WRONG. girl...jennifer hudson looked like a big burrito wrapped up in gold foil paper. made me want to go to chipotle LOL
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bigchassie
Comment: JGGIRL>oh so she was a model. okay. i just don't know what in de heyell did they see in that short ugly yt man with no arms! *smh*
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Chassie, I think MediaTakeOut.com has a photo with him in this getup. Peep it. No lie. You know damn well Michelle ain't gonna let Leon Talley nowhere near her! LMBAO!!!
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVONE>that is EXACTLY what she looked like too! i tell you i will kick his azz if he comes near our first lady!
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TGen
Comment: Reds, BraveNewFilms is stepping up their game too. They had a HARD-hitting ad on McCain's health and refusal to release medical records. It played for a couple days, then stations decided not to run it, (which is interesting when you consider all the trash they ran on John Kerry in 2004, hmmm). But if the 527's could just tweak that a little, still bring the heat, but in a roundabout way, that would be great.
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bigchassie
Comment: MOTHERSHIP>I know that's right! and he calls himself, a "stylist?" his "styles" are a piece of crap! i can't see how Vogue keeps him around this long.
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bigchassie
Comment: TGEN>i know that's right! Get that old geezer!
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fuzzygoss
Comment: ^^^shulamite^^^ MICHELLE OBAMA LOOKED JUST FINE. Sheesh, Black people always worried about fashion, toes, hair, nails, clothes and sh*t. Never fails!!! ^^^AND FOR THOSE SAYING OBAMA DID NOT PREVAIL ON FOREIGN POLICY, !!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE BEAT MCSTAIN ON HIS OWN TURF.^^^^^^^^^^BOTTOM LINE, OBAMA PROVED HE IS JUST AS QUALIFIED TO STAND ON STAGE WITH A 72-YEAR GEEZER, DOUBLE TALK EXPRESS who's sentimental war stories are wearing thin. ^^^PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO FEEL SORRY FOR YOU, PEOPLE WANT SOLUTIONS ABOUT THE ISSUES PLAGUING THE COUNTRY.
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fuzzygoss
Comment: Part 2. A maverick doesn't have to convince the world he is such. MCStain doth belabors that point too much.
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JGGIRL
Comment: Todd Palin is upset;
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122265784614384667.htm lla
>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
For his part, Mr. Palin has worried about the frequent separation of his wife from her family, friends and Alaska staff, an adviser said. Accordingly, her family will be with her in Sedona during this week. Also, a key Alaska staffer joined the Palin operation Sunday.
Meanwhile, the more experienced advisers assigned to her by the McCain campaign are accustomed to working with seasoned candidates, not someone "completely green on the national stage," one strategist said. Several Republican backers have griped that the campaign has put the candidate in difficult situations, from sitting for high-profile television interviews to popping into meetings with foreign leaders, some of whom made sexist remarks, said several officials.
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TGen
Comment: Fuzzygoss: "A maverick doesn't have to convince the world he is such. MCStain doth belabors that point too much." YES! I caught that and wondered if anyone else did as well. He called HIMSELF that, which is besides tacky, a red flag. Same thing people say about some "Christians." If they have to keep telling you that's what they are, eyebrows should raise, lol. It's so obvious to me McCain is a 72 year old child who thrives off attention and is obsessed with what he is "labeled." He's an egomaniac and I'm surprised so many people fall for that "Maverick" b.s. Great point Fuzzy!
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JGGIRL
Comment: I thought the surge worked.<<<<<<<<<<<
Attacks In Baghdad Kill At Least 32
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: TGen, a child that goes off when he doesn't get his way. He seem also to be very dioriented. Don't know his azz from his elbow. Case in point, I'm going to the debate, ain't going to the debate. Dude put on his Superman cape to rescue the economy in DC, suspended his campaign and sat there mute and ineffective. Didn't do a damned thing. And this is what these people really want? He pales in comparison to Barack.
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TGen
Comment: Reds, if you get to read this, I'm wondering about your take on the advice the rightest of the right wing Bill Kriston is giving Mc in his "How McCain Wins" article: http://community.nytimes.com/article/comments/2008/09/ 29/opinion/29kristol.html Excerpt: "The McCain campaign might consider responding by calling attention to Chapter 14 of Obama’s eloquent memoir, “Dreams From My Father.” There Obama quotes from the brochure of Reverend Wright’s church — a passage entitled “A Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness.” Make no mistake about it, when JM starts getting desperate, the name Rev Wright will "mysteriously" start to resurface, lol. If he's going down, he's going down throwing the kitchen sink like HC did. All the more reason the 527's need to get ready.
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dcdouglass01
Comment: Both men showed knowledge of foreign affairs, but Obama won based on McCain's snideness and condescension. Plus he stood toe-to-toe with McCain in what was supposedly John's strong suit subject. By the way, the only reason McCain wanted to cancel Friday's debate was to try and make the VP debate (which is going to be hilarious and should put the nail in McCain's coffin) go away.
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HersheysKiss
Comment: My .02. I watched the Couric/Palin interview. And Sarah Payless response on Foriegn policy and her comments about the distance b/t Russia and AK was laughable at best. Forget a deer caught in headlights. She looked like a deer stuck in car's front grill! The time is now! We CANNOT affort 4+ of this type of leadership. Thankfully we didn't have to know what a Dan Quayle presidency would have been like. But surely, Sarah Payless laying stakes this close to governing a nation is not a good thing no matter how you paint it. OBAMA-BIDEN 2008.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Yeah fuzzy...He referred to himself and Sarah as mavericks...Watch, next he'll be referring to himself in the 3rd person...MCcain:"I'm John The Maverick McCain Dammitt!...And John The Maverick McCain wouldn't make a statement like that...That's not a John The Maverick McCain statement"
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Quanli
Comment: I LOVED Obama's use of "John" instead of McCain or Senator McCain, you can tell this really got on his nerves. When a man can't look at you, he does not want to be addressed on familiar terms. I also loved that job he took at Palin by saying "I am proud of my VP choice...". Funny I hear very little mention of that line, but I think people are looking for Obama to be "in your face" with everything, when subtlety is what gets you somewhere. The two seemed equally matched on foreign policy rhetoric, but Barack outdid him in strategy. His take on it was the most sensible. Economy, he knocked it out of the park. McCain's temper was on display and was not a good look. However, he did manage a somewhat more measured approach while speaking than did Obama at times. Michelle: I think she is trying to play to "soccer moms" at this point. I wasn't crazy about it, but I think there is a strategy to it. Her figure also helped her pull it off. Funny to hear black women talking about a booty looking too big/wide. I thought our figures were a good thing?
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asize12
Comment: My thoughts...well, I thought it was a tie HOWEVER, Obama really impressed me and I'm sure many others with his knowledge of foreign policy. I was so proud of him! I was a bit disappointed in the fact that Obama said "McCain is right" umpteen thousand times! But, all & all, he did a good job. I wanted him to discuss the economy a little bit more, but hey, it was the 1st debate and he looked VERY presidential as usual, so I give him the grade of "B". I thought McCain was extremely condescending and he came off as 'preachy' as if he was preaching to his son or something. And I thought he was very disrespectful by not giving him ANY eye contact or acknowledgement. He acted as if Obama was 'beneath him' and I didn't appreciate his tone at all...I'm looking forward to the Palin/Biden debate this Thursday. Obama/Biden '08
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bigchassie
Comment: Warren Valentine said he just heard that the republican party wants paleface to step down.
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bigchassie
Comment: QUANAILI>our figures are a good thing. that is why a lot of yt women are wearing false booties and pumping up their lips and frying their azzes to get just as dark as us.
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bigchassie
Comment: ASIZE>Hey girlie! yeah, i say OB held his own in the debate. maybe they will go more in depth about the economy in the second debate.
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LazySusan
Comment: McCain is a mean, unhappy old man. And he looked it on Friday night. He wanted to slap the s**t out of Barack Obama, that's why he wouldn't look at him. He didn't want to be there. His shady plan not to show up for the thing backfired and he was mad. And all of those references to Eisenhower and others back in his day were pathetic. So for those that like mean old men, who are mean because clearly they were traumatized when they got their azzes caught and taken prisoner, would see that debate as a tie. As far as I'm concerned, Barack was the only one that looked and acted presidential. Jim Lehrer's questions were stupid, he did a bad job during the 2000 race during those debates and he looks like trash. And as for Michelle Obama...yes, I want the woman that is going to be possibly this country's Black First Lady to look nice. And she doesn't. God help me I hate to say this, but she needs to talk to Condi Rice. I hate her guts, but she always looks immaculate. One more thing: Bill Clinton is nothing but a f***k***g liar. Tom Brokaw asked him yesterday to say something nice about Barack, like he had been doing about McCain and Palin, and he said, 'I just met him for the first time in Harlem'. Well...Billy Boy...there is a picture of you with Barack in Lousiana during the Hurricane Katrina aftermath, so yet another lie. He and his wife need to go take naps somewhere until after November 4th if they're not 'over it'.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...A woman's booty is a good thing a dayum good thing...Funny, he kept calling old boy John...Whats a "John" ya'll...A john is a toilet...You know Rak wanted to flush his azz after all that "Obama just dosen't get it" sh1t...
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: LazySusan, don't get me started with Bill Clinton. I'm really beginning to can't stand his azz.
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smurfy
Comment: hey musbdherbs, i see you are a serious brotha who doesn't fit the awful sterotypes....i really like your posts as they are very insightful....and studious i might add....it does make me feel good to see comments from black folk who seem "intellectually curious".
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TGen
Comment: LazySusan, I though Jim Lehrer did alright, except for the childish instigation trying to get them to admit the OBVIOUS, that they would have to alter their spending because of the economy. Duh! But what alarms me is the next one, I think Brokaw will be doing that one. That cracka cannot stand Obama and lubs him some McCain. Thus far, he has been unable to hide as much in his MTP interviews and during the primaries. I doubt he will be able to hide it in the debates. I hope the BO camp is gearing up for another ABC-like gotcha debate, Brokaw cannot be trusted. I hope someone in that camp is paying attention and prepares accordingly...
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Dean32
Comment: Friday night was not a debate, it was an opportunity for mccain to show the america's how he puts Obama in his place. When mccain sayed "you not understand" I (Obama) would have sayed yes you are right, I don't understand why a senator that's served the america people can't see the america people are and have lost there homes, jobs, and a way of life that other countries only dream of. I don't understand why you think giving corporate america more tax breaks and giving the middle class more financial hardship is the answer to solving the wall street mess. I wish Obama would stop letting this man walk on him and just kick his a$$. But, Obama thinks playing the nice guy roll will win over white america I guess.
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shulamite
Comment: Quanli worte: "Michelle: I think she is trying to play to "soccer moms" at this point. I wasn't crazy about it, but I think there is a strategy to it". Sure, no problem with this pitch, if off the cuff. Taking her daughters to ice cream. Or shopping in Jackson, MS. I just didn't like it for the debate. And the dress was quite expensive; most soccer moms couldn't afford it. The dress just didn't look "presidential" to me for a formal TV appearance, that's all. And the contrast was all the more stark next to Cindy, who did look very good that night.
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shulamite
Comment: musbdherbs wrote: "As w/the fist bump, people (america) are gonna have to become accustomed to the cultural differences the Obama camp brings." Fair enough, I see your point. But I'll end with the missive, in the philosophy of Coco Chanel, that good taste in clothing should transcend all cultures. :-) Ok... ducking and running...
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shulamite
Comment: Dean32 --> that would have been a GREAT comeback! Obama is an true gentleman, and it comes across in his debate style. He'll kick azz once he's elected, no doubt about it.
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Dean32
Comment: Shulamite, Obama has my kick a$$ vote!
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javone77
Comment: chassie: frying their %*$es LOL speaking of bought %*$es...has anyone been watching kim kardashian on dancing with the stars? rofl...Lord. chris rock says she got all that %*$ and can't shake it lol
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVONNE> I heard that.
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oshun
Comment: my 2 cents: i thought it was pretty close, but obama narrowly eeked out a win in this debate.
he did miss some opportunities, particularly on iraq. he could have confroonted mccain with the iraqi govt's demand that u.s. troops withdraw. after all, mccain says the u.s. was seen as a liberator, but the iraqi gov't now says 'you ain't got to go home but..."
still, i LOVED the way obama always directly addressed mcain. it showed he was confident and backed up his position. mccain, on the other hand, never even looked at obama-let alone address him by name.
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queeniebunz
Comment: Okay, I have to speak for my girl Michelle. Y'all need to let it go. 1)She is being compared to Jackie O, as someone already said - one of THE fashion icons of them all. 2) The dress she wore on the view got so much play that the designer was inundated with requests for it - thousands wanted that dress. And, ohmygosh - it was a print dress. 3) The woman is tall and curvy and BEAUTIFUL with black features = beautiful brown skin, a shape anyone would envy and "black" features. 4) She has a hairstylist to die for that makes her hair shake in the breeze. Why are y'all trippin? And yes, it is SO superficial to focus so much on that when Obama is kickin azz and takin' names! Jeez!!!... as for SNL - I'm gonna be watchin the first 5 minutes every week because Tina Fey is da bomb!!! Every time I see the Katie Couric interview I just laugh and laugh. I can't wait til the debate on Thursday! As for McCain - every news channel was talking about his utter and total disrespect for Obama - over and over again they mentioned it and thought it was low and small. It is very true to say that people always reveal who they really are. Nobody has to do it for them. I'm thinking this - God forbid but McCain becomes president. Is he gonna show that level of disrespect to foreign leaders? Is he gonna talk at them and look through them and actually expect to improve our standing in the world? Unbelievable. That's all I have to say. Leave Michelle alone. To quote my favorite Project Runway designer Christian - the woman is FIERCE!!!
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Stephanie
Comment: Trust me when common middle class folks start thinking about that $700 million dollars THEY'LL have to pay because of George Bush, Obama will be our next President. NOBODY in their right damn mind should think the war on terrorism is needed in Iraq. I'm standing on the promises and if its the Lord's will, then Barack Obama will be the next POTUS.
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bigchassie
Comment: QUEENIE> I too concur!
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DawnDuhDuh
Comment: BOOT>Could you imagine someone coming up to you ordering a roast moose with cheese? lol JGGIRL>They knew better than to have that Palin chick try to expound on the debate. They chose the safe route by putting America's "favorite" boy, Guiliani, on the mic. Interesting information on her husband though, do you think they could be posturing her up for an exit? MUSH>That is a classic funny. You are so right, there is definitely a count down to the explosion of that anuerysm and God forbid he wins, dies and Palin becomes President!! HARRIS>I am also glad that Obama mentioned that his first term in office will primarily deal with cleaning up this mess; EVERYBODY needs to keep that in mind!! Though I am sure it will be used against him.
Michelle's attire: While I would like to see her dressed to the nines, I think that it is a good idea that she still looks a bit "average". I think that it bodes well for the relatability factor. There will be plenty of time after he is elected for her to pull out the First Lady "Fits".
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oshun
Comment: >>Name: TGen
Comment: Re BClinton, someone should call him on his unadulterated praise of McCain next time, ask him how he has sooo much respect for a man who called his then thirteen year old daughter "ugly" (his exact word).
did he REALLY???
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soulmusic101
Comment: Obama won the Debate...Look for the shotgun wedding of Bristol Palin and Levi to be performed before the Election. McCain needs another "stunt" to stop the Obama Momentum. They know the Media will be there in droves, too bad it will not stop Obama from winning on Nov. 4th..
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javone77
Comment: QUEENIE!!!!! I am with you. I envy the lady her shape. i have her shape...it's just under a few layers of extra....insulation LOL
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bigchassie
Comment: SOULMUSIC>yeah let them do that, that black guy ought to bust that thang up and do it soap opera style and announce he is the father of bristolcream's baby! lol! that will be hilarious!!
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Dawn - her dresse are straight off the runway. Literally they were in runway shows. The designer is Thakoon. How much more "to the nines"/fashion forward can you get than straight from the runway? Cindy McCain - she looks like an aging Barbie doll. Her hair is too long and stringy. Her features are hardening. And her suits are boring. Between the two, Michelle has won just about every "contest". I'm a Scorpio. We are loyal. When we like someone, we defend them to the end. I love the Obamas, hence the defense of my gurl!...now on to important topics, I am just hoping that Obama and Biden continue to stress that McCain's party is the one that caused this whole economic mess. And I have to also say that I am glad that every time I watched CNN and MSNBC, (and it was a lot because I was home sick on Thurs/Fri) I saw time and time again that they were totally dissin' McCain and his farce of "suspending" his campaign and his posturing. They had a few interviewed congressmen who flat out said that McCain didn't do a d*mned thing except sit there. His attempt to look presidential failed miserably AND though y'all don't realize it, Obama won the debate before he really won it just by forcing McCain to participate. He is the reason it kept going. Had he caved, he would've looked like a punk. Instead, McCain looked indecisive and ridiculous. I love Obama! Obama! Yes we can! Obama '08!
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Quanli
Comment: I agree Queenie. I have her height, but not the shape. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a pole but I would do better to have a few more curves. I put it this way, I doubt anybody else would have been able to step outside in that number without a few laughs. That says something right there. LOL! Can't wait for the VP debates.
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Reds
Comment: TGen: “Reds, if you get to read this, I'm wondering about your take on the advice the rightest of the right wing Bill Kriston is giving Mc in his "How McCain Wins" article: http://community.nytimes.com/article/comments/2008/09/ 29/opinion/29kristol.html”….
“McCain should break the mold and acknowledge, even emphasize the crisis.”….I think he already tried that when he called for Cox’s resignation….
“With respect to his campaign, McCain needs to liberate his running mate from the former Bush aides brought in to handle her” …Now that would be interesting, given her track record with interviews so far. Now the Rev. Wright part is interesting also, but I think it’s too late for that, because most people are convinced that Obama is for the middle class. He is one of them, owning only one car and one home. Now making the case of McCain for the middle class with his legion of cribs and whips….
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huey
Comment: im watching the view...jennifer hudson looks like she was dressed by a gay amish man....whats up with the smedium gurdle...
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Quanli
Comment: huey, at least she has one on this time. Usually that pot belly is hanging over. Now she is one person I think should consult with Queen. Yes, you can dress as a "big" woman.
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Cappaucino
Comment: If you want a fair look at who won the debate just think about it in these terms. Imagine McCain was blk with the presentation he gave and Imagine Obama was white with the presentation he gave. Do you know what the responses would have been? Headlines "Obama wipes floor with McCain" - "New guy on the block proves he's Americas best choice". Yes and there is no way this was close, there are so many people saying Obama won. The Republicans are trying to manuever cheating room, don't sleep, they are ready to steal another election. Beleive me those numbers are lower for MCc but they are up to there old Jim Crow tactics.....
-Peace :0)
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javone77
Comment: huey and quanli: I was just watching that. uhm.....she looks like she was dressed by that white girl from white chicks. jhud should have gone up one more size. her stomach could have had it's own damn spotlight lol
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Cappaucino
Comment: lol (CaliRedbone) the dress was to disguise her booty on T.V, and I think it worked. Mrs. Obama got some serious back and I am sure she didn't want it jigglin noticably on national TV.
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Sexy_1908
Comment: shulamite Comment: "The loser of the debate: Michelle Obama. I love the lady to pieces, but I want her to allow the campaign to dress her. Cindy looked like a first lady. Michelle... not so much." **I agree totally! That dress was crazy. I couldn't even remember what happened in the debate after she stepped on stage in that frock. Not sure what she was trying accomplish with that one. It looked like she was on her way to a PTA meeting (and grabbed her curtains on the way out)--- not the road to the White House. Michelle, I think the world of you --may I suggest investing in a designer (other than De la Walmart) and a full length mirror before the next debate. WOW!!**
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huey
Comment: javone77---i think she tried to run a jedhi mind trick on us..."keep them looking at my belly and make them keep they mind offn my azz"....
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bigchassie
Comment: CAPPAUCINO>that's allright! that booty is for Barack! lol!
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Grace12_34
Comment: Sexy, I would be very surprised if we ever saw her in a "frock" like that again. LOL
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Cappaucino
Comment: I think you guys need to chill with all that Mrs. Obama hatin. YT got you brainwashed as to what they want you to wear. She looked good, for all we know that's her and Obama's Freakum Dress. "Honey wear that thing I like so I can rock this debate, then go home and rock you" ...
Peace :0)
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javone77
Comment: huey: Uhm...for those of us who have front AND back, what kind of damn trick can we try???? LOL
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Here' my take on he VP debate...All Palin has to do is not sound too stoopid...I think she's playing us for fools...Americans don't expect her to be a US amb%*$ador...They just don't want her to sound stumped on too many issues...If Biden holds back it'll be considered a win for Palin...If Biden goes for the jugular then it's "That old man beat up on that poor, slow thinking woman"...God forbid she sheds a tear...I think she's fine knowing that she's being used by the Repubs...She might even bring that "Licking baby" and have him seated in the front row...With her pregnant daughter...I betcha the camera will get a shot of the lil girl giving that baby a lick...That lil girl might even run on stage and tell Biden "You stop being mean to my mama!!!"...Then muthafuccers ain't got no political ettiqutte(SP)....WTF is Biden gon do?....
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Cappaucino
Comment: ( Sexy_1908 ) I can't lie that post was hilarious. Especially the curtain part.. You wrong :0)
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bigchassie
Comment: CAPPAUCINO>LOL!! THAT'S RIGHT! LOL!
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Sexy_1908
Comment: However, I thought Obama did well. I especially admired how he held his peace as McCain constantly tried to talk down about him. McCrazy must have said over 101 times "Obama doesn't understand..." Jealousy makes you sound crazy.
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DawnDuhDuh
Comment: Queenie>Runway or not; IMO it is nice, but average looking. Which is not such a bad thing at this juncture and definitely not the MOST important.
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Grace12_34
Comment: ROFLMAO@Sexy ... "grabbed her curtains on the way out." I'm crying over here!
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bigchassie
Comment: BOOT>shoot! beat the crap outta her azz! the playin in the big boys clubs now! she better come with it, cause if not her azz is toast! lol! the lickin baby can't help her! lol!
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Cappaucino
Comment: She could also be playing dumb and rock that debate, Mr T used to do that he said it was his ultimate weapon...
That would make her look like a hero, the comeback kid; The headlines would read "Big upset for Dems, Palin comes out Swingin Muta#$@! caught sleepin"
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huey
Comment: good thing i aint running for office, if that old%*$!(@!( said to the audience "huey dont understand" more than once the only thing u woulda seen is me coming from his got dayum blind side when i blitzed his azz straight into the effn audience....
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Cappaucino
Comment: You folks crazy, messin around with yall I won't get any work done. Peace! :0)
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shulamite
Comment: Classic dress is classic dress regardless of the ethnicity of the person wearing it. Good taste doesn't have a color or a price tag. Looking classic *for that forum* isn't "being white" anymore than good enunciation is "talking white". If Rack got up there in Ebonic speak telling McCain "how YA like me NOW, boyee..." we would not say yeah that's him just being proud of his ethnicity or walking in his personal style. All of you apologists for the outfit's appropriateness on that stage need to stop playing.
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Grace12_34
Comment: I can't wait to see which one is more hilarious ... Thursday night's VP debate or SNL's depiction of it!!!
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Name:
shulamite
Comment: Grace12_34, what was funny and sad about Tina Fey's spoof "debate" was that a lot of her lines were taken verbatim from Sarah Palin's answers.
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soulmusic101
Comment: Sarah Palin is playing dumb??? It is sad to even watch her now. Sarah will be tossed aside like a rag doll after November.
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dcdouglass01
Comment: "McCrazy must have said over 101 times "Obama doesn't understand..." " And this from a man who graduated near the bottom of his class to man who graduated at the top. I think Obama is right where he needs to be because he doesn't want to peak too soon; better to crescendo in that last debate. That, combined with Palin's upcoming debacle, should put Obama in the White House come January.
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shulamite
Comment: soulmusic101, the only reason I don't think Palin was playing dumb is that her ego is too big to look bad (albeit temporarily) for the team. I don't know any politician who is willing to look dumb to later surprise the opponent. I think she was cramming, plain and simple, and was nervous as all get out to have to give unscripted answers.
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Name:
B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Rak Bama!
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Name:
B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Rak Bama!!!
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Name:
B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Rak Bama!!!!
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Name:
Grace12_34
Comment: I saw some little snippet on television where Tina Fey said, "I don't want to play this woman after November 5." WOW@the words, "this woman."
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Name:
B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Rak the dayum Bama!!!! There, 200 posts...Courtesy of B00tane B00tus...
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Name:
TGen
Comment: DcDouglass01: "And this from a man who graduated near the bottom of his class to man who graduated at the top." I was thinking the SAME thing!
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shulamite
Comment: Grace, you know Tina is getting MAD BANK for her return to SNL. Good for her.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: dayum Grace...You messed up my Bama flow...
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Name:
Sexy_1908
Comment: *Cappaucino* That would be wild if Palin were really a secret political whiz-kid! :-) I can't lie...the thought crossed my mind briefly--but then I saw her and the Katie Couric interview, and I realized that chick is all the way LIVE! Palin is eerily reminiscent of Bush. They're dumb as bricks and they both kinda hold there head to the side when they are thinking..like they're trying to evenly distribute brain juice before they speak. But... Either way Thursday is "MUST SEE TV!"
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soulmusic101
Comment: Sorry but Sarah is being used by the McCain Camp, Palin can't help it if she is out of her league. It is what it is....
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Grace12_34
Comment: I don't think Sarah Palin is faking anything either. If only Tim Russert were alive, I could just hear him at the debate, "Now, you mentioned the only difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom was lipstick. What did you mean by that?" LMAO
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queeniebunz
Comment: I disagree about Palin. I think she's just as simple as she seems. She had her chance to show some intellect when she sat down w/Katie and clearly she has none. She has been living her life off her "charm" and it wore real thin after her "spunky" lipstick on a b*tch comment. For Americans facing war/family and friends dying or getting injured, an economy just to the left of a depression, and an entire world that hates our American apple pie guts, charm ain't gonna cut it. McCain is an inch away from a heart attack, death from skin cancer or something else old people die of. That means she could become the president of this country and that should make everyone who is for the McCain/Palin ticket wake up in cold sweats every night. What is she going to say in her Presidential statements? "I don't know what's going on in ___(whatever country) but I'll find out for ya!" WTF???!! Or, is she gonna say, "We're gonna beat those bad guys! Iranians and Russians are bad guys! I know bad guys when I see them! They are bad guys!" WTF???!!! As I've said before, if they get in, I'm moving to Africa to do missionary work. I'm outta here if those bonehead twins get in. Straight outta here! Peace, I'm gone!
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Cappaucino
Comment: (Sexy_1908) lol I am certain feeling you on that. I can't wait for the debate, it has been rumored Palin wanted them to change the format of the debate to suit her. I won't miss that debate for nothing.
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soulmusic101
Comment: bigchassie...and Bristol will name the kid Tater...lol...what kind of Mother would use her kid's that way?
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bigchassie
Comment: CTHEYLLUP AT SEXY'S COMMENTS: Palin is eerily reminiscent of Bush. They're dumb as bricks and they both kinda hold there head to the side when they are thinking..like they're trying to evenly distribute brain juice before they speak.
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TGen
Comment: Boot: "WTF is Biden gon do?...." I've heard that he should overlook Palin and basically debate McCain. I tend to agree with this. I think something like this would do the trick: "I'm sure you're knowledgable of your state and obviously given your ties to a group promoting Alaska secession, you believe it's a superior state, and that's okay. But the fact remains you've yet to articulate a clear vision or know-how about foreign policy. The fact remains (if you've noticed, this is like Biden's favorite phrase, lol) we, Americans DON'T KNOW YOU. The fact remains John McCain DIDN'T KNOW YOU. The fact that he would put someone on his ticket whose views he has no idea about shows a very poor decision-maker." If Joe Gaffe takes that approach, hard-hitting, but not against Palin, against McCain, I think he'll be alright.
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Grace12_34
Comment: When I hear Sarah stumbling and bumbling all over the place, I ALMOST feel sorry for her, but then I recall the RNC and her arrogance and all her put downs.
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Name:
shulamite
Comment: TGen, you're right. The repubs are also telling Palin to overlook Biden and debate Obama. Biden doesn't have to say anything to her really. She'll hang herself. But if she's able to change the debate format to suit herself, democracy in this country is truly gone.
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bigchassie
Comment: TO BIDEN: SEND HER TO THE DOGS! LET THEM EAT HER MOOSEBURERS!
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Name:
Grace12_34
Comment: I agree with TGen. SARAH, WE HARDLY KNEW YE.
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: i think Biden should show no mercy! heyell, she was selected to be VP. lets see how she gonna be able to issues. cause if (and that is a BIG IF) she and mcslain gets in office and the old man gets sick from pumping too much viagra and keels over and croak, how she gonna be able to handle situations. what if Putin decides to throw bombs at us cause "alaska is blocking his view from russia" what she gon do? GIT HER BIDEN! GITER!
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Name:
Southernbelle
Comment: Too many ^^^ to read so I'll just post. I was expecting a lot more from Barack. I'm glad the polls are still in his favor but he agreed with McCain one too many times. I expect Binden to wipe the floor with Palin which will also help overall. But in the next debate Barack really needs to knock it out of the park.
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TGen
Comment: Oshun: Yep, indeedy. McCain's contempt for women is well-document. Here's what I found on his infamous joke: "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno."
McCain's two-liner conveys some interesting insights into what he considers humorous (lesbianism, a young woman's physical appearance), particularly since it was delivered to a Republican crowd. Remember, this is the party that champions pro-family values." http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html See also McCain's "joke" about rape: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/15/sources-recal l-mccains-jo_n_112955.html McCain supposedly asked the crowd if they had heard "the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die?" The punch line: "When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, "Where is that marvelous ape?" Yep, this is the jerk Bill Clinton "admires." *Sigh*
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: cuse me. that's handle issues. typo.
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: TGEN>dayum! that man IS an azz!!
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Name:
gingerg
Comment: Obama was on point throughout the debate, but McCain was just fair. I can't wait to see the Vice Presidential debate later this week.
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Name:
musbdherbs
Comment: Shula...I didn't care about the dress one way or the other but I will say that Michelle did look walmart'sh in an election where she's being painted as an elitist..on a stage where cindy prolly had on another 10k+ outfit. Hillary went agains the whole idea of how a first lady should look/act..so will michelle. This is the same Michelle that wears her hair back in a ponytail on the trail and she does look like she is going to the PTA...no to Costco. From what you hear, that's exactly who she is and I can get w/that. As long as she ain't up there in a pair of apple bottoms and hoop earrings and Obama in a pair of Rak&rupublics and nike boots..I'm gud...lol Yep, Condi be looking gud like shyt. *thinking bout her in them dominatrix boots and red coat* TGEN..now you know damn well that Biden can't say that to Palin..then he'll be dismissing her..lol This debate will be a must-see cuz I seriously can't imagine how she's gonna go at Obama. I mean damn..you gotta know what the positions are and support it. If it gets down to which candidate does a better job @ going after the top of the other ticket.. Biden wins. More than likely, Palin will continue to "reform/maverick" schtick and "less earmarks will save the country from terrorism, economic crisis, crime, abortion, gays, education, energy, nuclear proliferation" that McCain did in this one.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >shulamite - I don't see them doing that anymore than McCain was able to do a no-show at the debate last Friday. As we learned w/the pres. debate, these things are set up months if not a year in advanced. They're not going to make an instant change to something that's been carefully planned for months. Now if McCain had actually pulled Friday off, I'd have thought that but since he had to cave, she'll have to cave too. As others have said, I'll be in front of my TV with popcorn, Twizzlers and soda to watch this one because it's gonna be hilarious. Even if the facilitator is biased and even if she had cliff notes on her podium and even if she has an earpiece and they're feeding her answers, she's still dumb as a box of ice cubes. She'll mess it up and smile and pose and think she was clever and charming. And as others have said, I'll wait to see how Tina Fey dogs her out on SNL again this Saturday! There are no lifelines during a debate, Sarah honey. None at all. Silly rabbit. Tricks are for kids...
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musbdherbs
Comment: TGEN...and KNOWING that, Bill still compliments McCain as if they are best friends. At this point, Obama is rising in the polls seemingly w/out the Clinton's help. If this is the best they can do..then they should just continue to campaign half-azzedly and expect to be on er'bodys shyt list after the election. No surprises there. It's rather sad tho' how Bill's pride continues to get in the way.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: BHO says he will vote on the bailout bill while JMc says that he "hopes" to vote on the bill . . . . . America has a well defined choice for president and that choice is Barack Obama . . . . the 72 year old white male candidate never thought that he would live to see a black male present himself as the best choice for president of America . . . . . for that matter, neither did the clintons and Bclinton endorses JMc with superlatives that burns his mouth to use for that black candidate, Barack Obama, who whooped Hclinton in the democratic primaries and caucuses
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TGen
Comment: Soulmusic: If they try the "gunshot wedding" thing on TV, it's over. I seriously doubt if they want her pregnant teenage daughter parading around on TV to remind the world of what a mess Palin chose to leave in her family b4 accepting the VP offer. I have no doubt that will backfire if that's where they're trying to steer things. Btw, Re Palin "playing dumb." I don't think she's playing dumb, but I also don't believe she IS dumb per se, I think she's just out of her league. Honestly, I'm surprised she's done so poorly, can't even b.s. (like Bill Maher said, lol) like normal politicians. But I'm surprised because I saw parts of her gubernatorial debate and though she wasn't like a genius, she def wasn't as clueless as she seems now. She was also interviewed on C-Span back in Feb and again she seemed a lot less dense than now. (Check C-Span's website if you want to see for yourself.) So the BO camp must not sleep, Biden is right to not take anything for granted. He's studied her tapes, he said, so hopefully he'll be prepared for the Governor Palin rather than the VP candidate Palin, two totally dif people imo.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: TGEN...I hope you're right...Maybe Biden needs to have one of his grandkids in the front row and have somebody give it a lick....for good luck...Biden can't be out-licked in this debate...Now, who's to say the Repubs won't have Sarah wired and have some foriegn policy expect hiding in the wings providing her with answers and sh1t...Kinda like Cyrano...What if the Repubs gotta hold of the questions and has we post Sarah is at home cramming....I wanna see a "knock-out"...But sumthing tells me differently...I expect some trickery and fucc-ery...
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shulamite
Comment: musbdherbs... I like Condi's style a lot. And she wears dominatrix very well!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: TGen, Palin's star was hitched to that of Ted Stevens which is not getting much MSM play . . . . . when Palin ran as mayor, the repug machinery backed her play in a manner that had never before been seen in the libertarian political environment of Wasilla . . . . . the repugs committed much more effort to elect Palin as governor of a state with less than 700,000 people who have a petro welfare entitlement
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shulamite
Comment: musbdherbs, like I said, I think Bill Clinton is (inadvertently) playing well for Barack. He's the "skittish white man that really doesn't want to vote for Barack, but must for his own good and the good of his country". Jim Webb tried to be that figure in the primaries, but he has since disappeared from the radar and the Dems really need that voice.
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musbdherbs
Comment: BTW...oh thanks smurf. Don't hold me to it tho cuz i'm known to pi.ss of a person or too..lol Palin isn't dumb...she just (as was said) out of her league. I also saw her debate and she does when she has a grasp of the issues. That's much easier to do when you are mayor of a town the size of a mid-sized college and governor of a state the size of jacksonville, fl. She's in the big leagues now.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Yep...and I like the fact that she can wear both pantsuits and dresssuits (uhm..is there a such thing) and still look both feminine AND powerful..something a lot of women have issues w/...uhm..Hillary. Bill go cost himself a legacy..he really is.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...I mean she can come out and say some sh1t like...I'm a maverick and I'm gonna "maverick-ize" this debate...I'm not gonna follow the status quo..Gwen, this is how this is gonna go down...We gon do this maverick style"....and WTF is Gwen gon do?...She'll be shuffling papers and thinking WTF?...
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HarrisThomas
Comment: hey y'all, I'm looking for information on the Fort Hill, SC Mayor Danny Funderburk who said that he forwarded a chain email suggesting Barack Obama is the antichrist because he was “just curious” if there was any validity to it and that he is trying to get documentation if there was any scripture to back it up . . . . . please share the link if you can find it
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shulamite
Comment: HT - go to Huffington Post and look for the comments section to that article. They have posted the mayor's city hall email address. :-)
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TGen
Comment: HT/Musb, yep, I agree, just out of her league. But even so, I don't want it to seem like I'm giving her a pazz. It's bizarre that anyone, but esp someone in public office no matter how low on the totem pole, could be that uncurious about the outside world. Hell, most of us seem to have a better grasp of national and international issues than she does. It's weird that she apparently hasn't read or paid attention enough to even form an opinion because if she had, like I stated earlier, she would have been able to b.s. through those questions in those interviews. She's been in a box it seems (freezer box since it's Alaska, lol) and that's just plain weird.
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musbdherbs
Comment: According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is:
The anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal.... the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything. Is it OBAMA??
I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to repost this as many times as you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet... do it!
If you think I am crazy... I'm sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the "unknown" candidate.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Subject: Fw: The Book of Revelations!
A Trivia question in Sunday School:
How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations? Guess the Answer? Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.
Almost a four-year term to a Presidency. All I can say is Lord Have Mercy on us.!!!!!!
According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything ..
Is it OBAMA?? I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to repost this as many times as you can!
Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet...do it! I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.
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TGen
Comment: Here's a link with the "Antichrist" story. I had heard this a while back, can't believe this bullcrap is resurfacing. Just wow: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/28/obama-antichrist-n c/
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Southernbelle
Comment: The Democratic party really needs to censor Clinton. If he can't bring himself to sincerely endorse Barack then he should not be out there promoting Hillary and/or McCain. I predict that after this week's VP debate the REp. party drops Palin like a bad habit.
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shulamite
Comment: Southernbelle, they can't drop her because early voting for the McCain/Palin ticket has already started. If they drop her, McCain will forfeit all those votes. And his credibility will be shot. Now - not to delve into my conspiracy theory side - if something bad happened to her, that's a different story.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: totally co-sign your post, Southernbelle . . . . . Bubba should not be campaigning for O-BA-MA!! because he refuses to speak in the superlative about him but uses superlatives for the opposition . . . . . the clintons must think that in 2012 they will get a free ride from O-BA-MA!! supporters if the dems lose in November
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TGen
Comment: Some solace. The BO camp has set up "Truth Squads" to debunk stupid ish like this. Here's one from Missouri: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/attack ing-obama.html
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HarrisThomas
Comment: totally co-sign your post, Southernbelle . . . . . Bubba should not be campaigning for O-BA-MA!! because he refuses to speak in the superlative about him but uses superlatives for the opposition . . . . . the clintons must think that in 2012 they will get a free ride from O-BA-MA!! supporters if the dems lose in November
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Southernbelle
Comment: They won't actually "drop her" but they will strongly encourage her to withdraw. Just watch, after Binden makes a complete azz of her, come Monday of next week her "Personal obligations will not allow her to effectively perform her VP duties".
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HarrisThomas
Comment: thanks, shula . . . . . musb, your anti-Christ posts don't have enough hyseria: ramp it up a bit
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shulamite
Comment: Of course if it happened she would voluntarily withdraw. Even still, those votes get forfeited and his credibility is shot. It's a no win for the Maverick. She truly just became his (or he became her's) "ride or die".
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Southernbelle
Comment: @ shulamite, we'll to delve into the conspiracy theory side. How about a large iceburg rams into Alaska and knocks it into Russia forcing the state to become a part of the new Soviet Union which in return would disqualify her because she's no longer a citizen LOL. Whatever it takes it would really suprise me if she makes it for the long haul..
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HarrisThomas
Comment: TGen, thanks for your links . . . . OK, y'all: not including the Biden/Palin debate, what could possibly be the October surprise? . . . . . btw, CBS is furiously denying that they don't have any really stupid, crazy Palin footage
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JGGIRL
Comment: Could the October surprise have anything to do with The ACORN project and Obama's ties to it? The conservatives are all over the radio and internet with it today. They are blaming ACORN for the crisis that we are in because they pressured the banks into giving low income people home loans.
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bigchassie
Comment: MUSBHERBS>yeah, i heard that on Warren Valentine today. i don' beleive that messy hooey! and that stupid mayor needs to be impeached!
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soulmusic101
Comment: McCain is doing worse than most people thought or ever dream of.....How did things go for John McCain last week? Lindsey Graham, who usually flacks McCain with a psychopathic, operatic zeal, got to a point Sunday morning on Fox News where he just sort of ... gave up. When it came time to respond to public support of Senator Barack Obama after the debate at Ole Miss, Graham at first attempted to pull out some good news from the polling data. But he quickly folded under minimal pressure from Chris Wallace, confessing finally that he was "tired" and concluding, "Senator Obama did well. Senator Obama helped himself."
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shulamite
Comment: Southerngirl, ramming Alaska into Russia would be a great October surprise. Actually, McCain was born in Panama a year before those folks were counted as US citizens. Technically, he isn't qualified to run.
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Taurusingr
Comment: MOTHERSHIP:..Hey there lady!! sml! Yep!, I'm "hip" to the..... "reflection of the election"! Just like those damn "Nielson Ratings Boxes"! "that" shyt never reflects WTF WE watch/like either! Ya dig!??? But I still say, those NEW voters outnumber the now "enthused" Republicans! I guess we'll just have to hope Obie REALLY kicks J Mac's as-s next time, & Biden REALLY exposes J Mac's policy weaknesses & ties to Bush AAAAAAND, this "redneck airhead" right out thurr for errrrrbody to see! "That" way, when they "try the lie"...nobody will believe it! Feel me!?? ( & I think that you do!!) sml! Holla!
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JGGIRL
Comment: The bailout is defeated.
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RealGAPeach
Comment: Y'all slow yo roll on that anti-christ stuff. The anti-christ is one who is against Jese. Revelations doesn't mention a race of people, rather, the term applies to all who oppose Christ and his kingdom and ,istreat his followers. It alos includes individauls, organizations, and nations that falsely claim to represent Christ or that improperly ascribe to themselves the role of the messiah
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soulmusic101
Comment: JGGIRL...and this is not an American problem only...Britain's Govt. just took over their 3rd largest Bank...Aisa is also feeling the ripples...George Bush's new name is mud around the World.
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RealGAPeach
Comment: not jese but Jesus
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JGGIRL
Comment: Palin takes on Biden directly as debate looms
Posted: 02:00 PM ET
From CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby
COLUMBUS, Ohio (CNN) — Before hunkering down at John McCain's Arizona ranch for three days of debate boot camp, Sarah Palin used a Monday rally in Ohio to throw a few jabs at her Democratic counterpart, Sen. Joseph Biden.
She started by taking a swipe at Biden's age and 36-year tenure in the United States Senate.
"I do look forward to Thursday night and debating Senator Joe Biden," Palin said while introducing John McCain at a rally here. "We are going to talk about those new ideas, new energy for America. I'm looking forward to meet him too. I've never met him before. But I've been hearing about his Senate speeches since I was in like second grade."
Palin, 44, would have been eight years old when Biden was first elected to the Senate in 1972 at the age of 29. John McCain was 36.
Palin was 18 when McCain was first elected to Congress in 1982 at the age of 46. If elected, McCain, 72, would become the oldest president in United States history.
The Alaska governor has generally shied away from attacking Biden directly while on the trail, although she did use the "second grade" remark in an interview with Fox News two weeks ago. But Monday marked the first time she has openly engaged Biden in her stump speech.
She also challenged her vice presidential opponent on policy grounds. Speaking in a state that's among the nation's leaders in coal output, consumption and reserves, Palin tried to capitalize on Biden's recent criticism of coal production as environmentally hazardous.
"We're not supporting clean coal," Biden said last week in Maumee, Ohio. "No coal plants here in America. Build 'em, if they're gonna build 'em, over there and make 'em clean because they're killing ya."
Palin promised that a McCain administration will utilize clean coal technologies that seek to mitigate the environmental impact of coal production and use.
"Just recently, Sen. Biden made it perfectly clear that in an Obama-Biden administration, there would no use of clean coal at all," she said, drawing boos from the audience. "From Wyoming to West Virginia and especially right here in Ohio, American coal resources are greater than the oil riches of the Middle East.
"And yet Joe Biden says, 'Sorry Ohio, we're not going to use it.' As for Sen. McCain and I, we will make clean coal a reality, and to help power the American economy with clean coal technology, we're going to look to the hard working people of Ohio to help us do that."
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shulamite
Comment: October surprise: Delayed Election b/c the Financial Market is failing. Mark my words.
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Name:
TooLiveQue
Comment: Grace 12_34 - Co-sign! Her acceptance speech at the RNC ain't as cute anymore!
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Name:
TGen
Comment: Yall, the Stock Market is down like 600, London Markets have crashed, stocks around the globe are sinking as we speak. This ish is no joke!!!!!!
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JGGIRL
Comment: The DOW fell 600 points!!
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soulmusic101
Comment: This is serious (the Bailout failing)...The Mexican Pesos is down and the Canadian stock market is down by 7% in one day....Your 401k just took a big hit.
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JGGIRL
Comment: Looks like Palin will be attacking Biden on age and outdated ideas. Won't that apply to McCain also? And he's at the top of the ticket.
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bigchassie
Comment: BIDEN IS GONNA BITE THIS HEFA GOOD! SHE DON'T KNOW WHO SHE MESSIN WITH!!!
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Taurusingr
Comment: shulamite: Yep!! or SUMPTIN!! Look!, they ain't paid us that 40 acres & a mule yet??, & we'll prolly be waiting TOO long for the outcome of this election! And for no other reason than....."WE're OWED THIS TOO"!!! Holla!
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soulmusic101
Comment: Brazil's Stock is down by 10%..... How will George Bush and his rich friends make money off of this crisis? They will find a way to make money off of all the future Foreclosures.
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TGen
Comment: My heart is pounding. This feels like 9/11 to me yall. I hate to say it--I know HE is in control--but I'd be lying if I said this is not some scary stuff. Wow
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bigchassie
Comment: HOUSE HAS DEFEATED 700 BILLION FINANCIAL MARKET BAILOUT.
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shulamite
Comment: Yeah, I don't want to take a look at my retirement fund. :-(
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shulamite
Comment: Watch, we're headed for delayed elections to protect the national security of the US. Will Mexico call in its debt? What about the Chinese yuan?
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soulmusic101
Comment: Time too withdraw from Iraq with intelligence...that alone will save America 300 Billion per month...Obama 2008!
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TGen
Comment: Shulamite, maybe that would have worked a few years ago, but I honestly don't think there's ANYTHING Bush can do to stay in office longer, lol. It's obvious by the bailout failing in the House, that he no longer has pull from even his own party. Most people are counting the days til it's time for his azz to go. He couldn't PAY people to let him stay in longer, believe that.
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Taurusingr
Comment: shulamite:..What "brand" is your....CRYSTAL BALL!!! LOL!!
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Name:
Taurusingr
Comment: Bottom line yall?.... To them?......EVERYTHING'S MORE IMPORTANT than giving Black people..... "What the fukk WE"VE EARNED"!!! One!
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Taurusingr
Comment: I never seen it mentioned here, but does anyone watch Real Time with Bill Maher?? Dude posed a very interesting statement/question when interviewing Chris Rock! In regards to this election & who Obama has been treated, He asked Chris..."Is this like the ole running joke/reality that everytime a Black man makes some progress, the White man...."changes the rules"!??? I REALLY like dude! That WB tells it the fukk who it is 98% percent of the time! Holla!
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bigchassie
Comment: ....AND THE BAND PLAYS ON........
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Taurusingr
Comment: Sorry, that should be..."HOW" Obama has been treated! (now,carry on!) sml!!
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Reds
Comment: TGen: “Reds, BraveNewFilms is stepping up their game too. They had a HARD-hitting ad on McCain's health and refusal to release medical records.”…. I went to their website, http://bravenewfilms.org/, and saw it. Honestly, I’m undecided. It was kind of harsh, but truthful, and that’s more than you can say about the Kerry Swift boat. But that’s also the policy with respect to running for presidency. You have to release your medical records. They also talked about the fact that he would be incapacitated in case of treatment for a reoccurrence of melanoma. But I found the Oreilly piece on it interesting, complaining about the PACs now that the shoe is on the other foot. Oreilly wanted the FBI to investigate the fact that Howard Dean’s brother was associated with it. He was really %*$!ed that nothing could be done about it.
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shulamite
Comment: Taurusingr --> you've got jokes, but that's okay. Watch and see, watch and see. Why else would Bush sign all those EOs? It isn't like he didn't know this meltdown was coming 2 years ago. You better read up on executive order PP51!
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javone77
Comment: Lord have mercy! everyone knows it is he damn republicans that keep killing this damn bill.
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Name:
MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Hey, Taurus! Whatz poppin' playa! Chris Rock was off the hook on his special Saturday night, "Kill The Messenger." He said Bush done fuccked up so bad, damn near made it impossible for a white man to run for president."
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TGen
Comment: Not true Javonne77, there were a lot of Dems who voted against it too.
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Taurusingr
Comment: shulamite: NO! Sincerely! I wasn't joking! "That" shyt prolly WILL go down! I just wanna know where I can get WTF YOU HAVE!! sml!
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JGGIRL
Comment: I guess McCain will have to suspend his campaign and the VP debate to deal with the crisis.
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Taurusingr
Comment: MOTHERSHIP: Whaddup Lady!?? sml!1 Yep!, off the mo fo HOOOOOOK! I wish "that" statement WAS true though! It would save all of us some damn stress & years off our damn liiiiiiiiives!! LOL!! Holla!
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oshun
Comment: >> attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die?" The punch line: "When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, "Where is that marvelous ape?" Yep, this is the jerk Bill Clinton "admires." *Sigh*
how coincidental that he chose a running mate who as mayor oversaw an administration that charged rape victims for the rap kit exam!
and i don't buy the crap that she was "unaware" of the practice! her city was ordered by the state to stop the practice and her city's chief public safety officer publicly refused!
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Taurusingr
Comment: JGGIRL: Yeah, like his old as-s is Superman or some shyt! It will just be another punkas-s way of stalling!, And watchem..... LET HIM GET AWAY WITH IT!!! One!
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queeniebunz
Comment: >JGGIRL - right?! LOL! I think he's learned from the pres debate fiasco that Obama's message of "multi-tasking" went over much better so I don't see him doing that this time. As for the plan being defeated, well, I am down w/Pelosi and the other Dems who refused to go forward w/o the Repubs on board. Why? Because they know that if they use their majority and pass it thru and it blows up in they're faces, Dems will lose big in this next election. Politics is fascinating. I like politics like dudes like sports. It's more entertaining. Yeah, there's crazy-azzed petulant T Owens and Favre the waffler and Kobe the spoiled child who won't share his toys and even Shaq the non free-throw shooter who can't rap but compared to the mess we're seeing on CNN and MSNBC and Fox News, sports ain't got nothin on politics! We've got Palin the dumb beauty queen w/the knocked up daughter and Robin Thicke lookalike husband. And we've got McCain the grumpy old man and Obama the rock star and Bill Clinton the bitter womanizing FORMER honorary black man. It's just too exciting! I can't wait to get to the gym to watch CNN and MSNBC while I work out on the elypitical! I know people think I'm crazy because I just laugh as I watch this crazy sh*t!
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Taurusingr
Comment: JGGIRL: P.S..HE didn't even SPEAK at the last "crisis meeting"! He already ADMITTED "that" subject (finances) is his WEAK POINT! So...WTF did/would he damn near break his neck getting thurr anyway!??? STALLING! & trying to spin the situation!!, that's all, plain & simple!!! One!!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: McCain and company are blaming BHO and the dems for not passing the bailout: they have the nerve to say that the dems politicized the process and terms for the bailout
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Southernbelle
Comment: @ TGen, you have every right to be scared. Everything we've ever worked for is in jeopardy. This shyt is bigger than black/white, republican/democrat. If something is not done to fix this, like yesterday, we're all screwed. This is why I need Obama to stick it to McCain in the next debate. I mean nail in the coffin not that passive/aggressive approach he used last week.
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Southernbelle
Comment: These mofos need to leave their party's at the front door and come up with a plan.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: repugs are pizzed because of the following report on Pelosi at the end of the congressional floor debates on the bailout: "In her speech, Pelosi had %*$ailed Bush and his administration for reckless economic policies. ____
"They claim to be free market advocates when it's really an anything-goes mentality: No regulation, no supervision, no discipline. And if you fail, you will have a golden parachute and the taxpayer will bail you out. Those days are over. The party is over," Pelosi said. ____
"Democrats believe in a free market," she said. "But in this case, in its unbridled form, as encouraged, supported, by the Republicans _ some in the Republican Party, not all _ it has created not jobs, not capital. It has created chaos."
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dcdouglass01
Comment: Well it's official. The depression has arrived. Mayonaisse sandwiches are on me today.(Whatever. Let this cleansing take place. Wall Street will survive. And for the better).
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soulmusic101
Comment: How quickly people forget that it was John McCain who "suspended" his campaign so that he could rush back to D.C. to rally the Repub's and be the "Maverick"...Too bad McCain brought nothing to the table and his fellow Repub's could care less what John was supporting. John McCain-The Chsnge You Don't Want....
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bigchassie
Comment: DCDOUG> i know that's right, dayum, do you think we can afford to put a little koolaid in our sugar water? oh, i forgot, we can't afford sugar no mo! pass me an man naise sammish and a glass of water. maybe i can pretend i'm drinkin koolaid with some sugar in it! lol! dauyum this is sheeyt!
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bigchassie
Comment: HARRISTHOMAS>how dare he! and the rethugs are the reason why we are in this deep sheeyat now!!!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: the repug constituency needs to think with their pockets about how the repugs have taken of business for them, or not, and stop voting straight party lines because of so-called wedge issues on moral values [same sex marriage and abortion] . . . . . . Pelosi is right about how we got to this mess but she did not have to do that speech today . . . . . . Pelosi needed to think about the repug delicate sensibilities about their responsibility to clean up this financial mess that they created while they were in the majority, rubber stamping the president . . . . . the repugs and like-minded dems who did not like this bill needed to let go of their egos and think about their constituents as well as the global markets that reacted to how congress voted even before the vote was completed . . . . . . people on main street and wall street are feeling universal financial pain and horror because politicians are making brownie points for re-election
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bigchassie
Comment: TGEN>whaaat?? dayum! this system is so fyucked!
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: correction: how the repugs have taken care of business for them, or not
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: chassie, I need a strong cup of hot tea
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soulmusic101
Comment: I am secretly glad the Bailout failed....Paulson wanted 700 Billion to give out with no oversite. Paulson was once a Bigshot at Goldman and Sac's, now you want American's to trust your Plan....This Plan was forced down our throat and proves that Washington is broken...George Bush has got too go! Too much Money was being shifted to the uber-Rich.
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JGGIRL
Comment: The REThugs will just spin it to say they were looking out for the American people since so many did not want the bill to pass.
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: soul, oversight was included in the bailout package that was voted down
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HarrisThomas
Comment: whether we agreed or disagreed with the bailout package, more is at stake than simply bailing out private corporations
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Taurusingr
Comment: HarrisThomas: Hey lady...you better put some Grand Monyaaaaaay in that cup!! LOL!! How you doing!?? sml!
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soulmusic101
Comment: HarrisThomas...The Oversight was superficial and didn't go far enough...I would rather bring Warren Buffet to the table and come up with a real plan. The Paulson Plan was corrupt and would have made a big profit from those who are planning on making money off the Foreclosure Market.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: Taurusingr, I checked your link to your song last week and have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed the music [cyberwaving] . . . . . btw, good liquor is wasted on me because I drink, then immediately have to sleep
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HarrisThomas
Comment: per Andrew Sullivan, The GOP Killed It: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2 008/09/the-gop-killed.html
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bigchassie
Comment: HARRISTHOMAS>yeah, me too.....WITH SOME SIP-SIP IN IT. SOME STRONG SIP SIP!
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musbdherbs
Comment: Not just oversight..some of the controversial provisions were taken out as well..such as aportioning money to ACORN. WTF? They shouldn't have had that one in their neway. Seems like the repubs got their wish and now we're left w/nothing. Yep, tuesday's debate has gotten even more interesting and I know Ifill is protecting her questions like McStain protecting Failin.
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JGGIRL
Comment: Gallup Daily: Obama Maintains 8-Point Lead NEW September 29, 2008
Barack Obama continues to lead John McCain by eight percentage points in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update, 50% to 42%, which includes two nights of interviewing after Friday’s presidential debate.>>>>>>>>>>>> ;>>>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;
U.S. Leaders Not Getting High Marks on Credit Crisis September 29, 2008
A USA Today/Gallup poll conducted Friday and Saturday finds more Americans disapproving than approving of how most of the major national political players have handled the Wall Street crisis. Barack Obama fares best, with 46% of Americans approving of his performance.
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soulmusic101
Comment: for those, not from...my bad.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: you are right about being left with nothing, musb: the stock market is crashing
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soulmusic101
Comment: Yes, something needs to be done but not with a bad Plan. Back to the drawing board and get it right Washington. No need to let the Rich profit off a Crisis on the back of Taxpayer's.
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khandi
Comment: Here is a transcript of the audio tape obtained by the National Enquirer of Dog the Bounty Hunter ordering his son Tucker to break up with his girlfriend who is black. Dog, who has 13 children total by 4 wives and other assorted baby mamas, doesn't feature Tucker in his popular show. Tucker was recently released from prison where he was serving 20 years on drug charges.
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Duane "Dog" Chapman: I don't care if she's a Mexican, a whore or whatever. It's not because she's black, it's because we use the word ni**er sometimes here. I'm not gonna take a chance ever in life of losing everything I've worked for for 30 years because some %*$!(@! ni**er heard us say ni**er and turned us in to the Enquirer magazine. Our career is over! I'm not taking that chance at all! Never in life! Never! Never! If Lyssa [Dog's daughter] was dating a ni**er, we would all say '%*$! you!' And you know that. If Lyssa brought a black guy home ya da da... it's not that they're black, it's none of that. It's that we use the word ni**er. We don't mean you %*$!(@! scum ni**er without a soul. We don't mean that %*$!. But America would think we mean that. And we're not taking a chance on losing everything we got over a racial slur because our son goes with a girl like that. I can't do that Tucker. You can't expect Gary, Bonnie, Cecily, all them young kids to [garbled] because 'I'm in love for 7 months' - %*$! that! So, I'll help you get another job but you can not work here unless you break up with her and she's out of your life. I can't handle that %*$!. I got 'em in the parking lot trying to record us. I got that girl saying she's gonna wear a recorder...
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Tucker Chapman: I don't even know what to say.
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soulmusic101
Comment: Obama did put some good oversight rules in place and he did say "No blank check, George bush". Time for Obama to roll up his sleeves and make sure the next Bill is even better.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Harris, Taurus could blow and he's a hella singer writer. That Obama tribute had me in tears! The GOP killed the bailout because they didn't want the regulations and restrictions that Wall St. and business has to now abide by. They still haven't learned!!! They want shyt to be unrestricted which basically led to where we are now, in damn near financial ruin!!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: Khandi, your post seems totally out of place and irrelevant on this board
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: MOTHERSHIP, I closed the door to my office in order to get myself together because I was emotional while listening . . . . . big ups to Taurus
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soulmusic101
Comment: Where did Paulson get the figure 700 Billion from? Paulson's answer was enough to let me know this Plan was corrupt in the 1st place.
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khandi
Comment: HARRISTHOMAS...I WANTED TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE ON HERE SO I CHOOSE THIS BOARD.....IF THAT'S OK WITH YOU!!!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: Kurtz: Journos Checking Their Tongues On Palin, McCain Cracks Down On Dowd: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/29/kurtz-journos -checking-th_n_130248.html . . . . . . if journalists can't speak to truth during this campaign, then it will only get worse if McCain is elected and there will be no transparency in government . . . . . signing off, have a good evening all
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queeniebunz
Comment: HThomas - Yeah. I'm a little confused on that one, too. Besides, didn't that Dog stuff happen a long time ago? *scratching head*
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bigchassie
Comment: SOULMUSIC>I know that's right!
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bigchassie
Comment: HARRISTHOMAS>that's some bullsheyatt. they can't puzzyfoot around on this woman. i want them to wring her neck and see if she can take it!!
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musbdherbs
Comment: HT..what's worse is that it is obvious that there is no such thing as bi-partisanship. Because of the politics the public was once again misinformed about the actual plan which was a loan that of which would have been recouped in part of full after the stuff had been bought back. After members from both sides crafted a plan..the republicans...in large..said thanks but no thanks. This is really amazing and less so if you consider how absolutely political the whole debate got..STARTING w/Mccain's suspension/nonsuspension/debate threat. His people were saying all along how McCain was instrumental in moving the process alone...as late as this morning. Now look at it. His campaign continues to shoot themselves in the a ss!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: draft of failed bailout bill: http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/09/28/ayo08c04 _xml.pdf
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musbdherbs
Comment: and now to hear repubs blame a damn speech given by pelosi as reason why it failed goes to show you how this really is a partisan issue. Pelosi is not my favorite but even she said from the jump that she didn't want to craft a plan that didn't have republican support. McCain failed to "deliver" as promised.
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Taurusingr
Comment: MOTHERSHIP: Thanks again lady!! & Ahh, you mean "THE" Johnny G?? Oh! Ok! Fa shooooooo!, That HE IS!! Holla!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/29/campaign.wrap/i ndex.html :Obama says 'stay calm;' McCain camp slams Democrats
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Taurus, The JohnnyG. He's my homeboy.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >musb- first let me be completely be superficial and talk about ole girl Condi. I liked the dominatrix look, too. I actually have an outfit like that. Years ago, I wore it once when I was teaching and a student told me I looked like a dominatrix, well, he tried to but couldn't say the word. I didn't help him, either. That was one vocabulary word I wasn't going to teach him that day. It was bad enough w/the idea of him imagining me with a whip saying, You've been a bad boy!" so I let it go. BUT my complaint w/Condi is that her hair is always jacked up. She needs to go to Michelle's hair stylist. I've heard Michelle doesn't even have a perm but her hair swings like she's Asian. Condi and that hair helmet gots to go! Next thing - I look at all of this mess as things falling into place to assure Obama the presidency. There are so many absurd thing going on that it has to be God working. McCain and his campaign suspension. WTF? Palin chosen as the VP? WTF? The stock market meltdown? WTF? It's like even the most biggoted redneck of the rednecks almost has no choice but to bite the bullet and vote for Obama. And I'm loving it. I can tell you this. I have never been interested in going downtown to be a part of that madhouse crowd during the inauguration in cold-azzed January, but WHEN Obama wins, I'm taking off that day and I'll be there! I'll be the one in the fly-azzed leopard print trench coat I'm making right now. That'll be me!
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bigchassie
Comment: MICHEAL BAISED HAS LOST IT!! IT IS OFFICAL NOW!! LOL! Micheal Baisden got this yt lady named Liz on the phone. she is from Ohio and she and her husband are voting for Obama and micheal asked her questions like "LIZ, LET ME HAVE THE TELEPHONE NUMBERS OF YOUR YT FRIENDS WHO ARE FOR MCSLIME" and he asked her why are they voting for mccain, of course she stated the typical silly narrow minded reasons: he's black, they think he's muslin and the yadda yadda. so he got liz on hold wanting folks to ask her questions on what they gonna do with this bail out.
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Taurusingr
Comment: HarrisThomas:..WOW lady!! THANK YOU FOR THAT!!! "That" says/means a LOT to me!! I wrote that within hours of the DNC!! It was kinda emotional WRITING it! I really believe it "was sent to me"...(if you know what I mean (& I think you DO!) sml!! So..... "THANKS AGAIN"!! Just trying to do MY part! Ya dig?? sml!!
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Queenie, ever since Barack won in Iowa, I saw God's hand. I knew it was a wrap. He's sick of man and his bullshyt their doin' for too much.
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soulmusic101
Comment: Here's an idea...take the best part's of the failed bill and make sure the next one is better. Bring in some Money Expert's outside of the Bush Circle. Get it right and pass the right Bill for America. Obama would have done a better job if he were the President.
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bigchassie
Comment: then there is another yt woman called from SC and she is voting for Obama.
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Name:
Reds
Comment: it's now down 777.68! God d, is it going to hit 800?
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bigchassie
Comment: wow.
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Name:
Taurusingr
Comment: BTW...If anyone wants to "check it out?? Go to Youtube, click the "channel" tab, type in "Taurusingr" & check out the..."Change Is Coming" song/video! Watch the 1st one..."it" is clearer!! Holla!
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dcdouglass01
Comment: The House of Representatives will never get a bill passed. They're mired in politics now. Kinda glad because it might be better to let the free market handle this.
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shulamite
Comment: We got a small but critical victory in Ohio today. Thank God for small gifts. OHIO UPHOLDS EARLY VOTING From NBC's Domenico Montanaro... Lost in the big news of the bailout failure and the subsequent plunging Dow, is a court decision in Ohio which could have big implications for the presidential race.
Republican-backed lawsuits went to the Ohio Supreme Court, and the court, by a 4-3 vote, "upheld a weeklong period in which new voters can register and cast an absentee ballot on the same day in Ohio. Another federal court decision was expected later in the day over the early voting window...." (The Ohio Supreme Court has six Republicans and one Democrat.)Previously, voters had to be "registered for at least 30 days before receiving an absentee ballot." This is the first presidential election in Ohio in which voters can vote absentee and early without excuse. Election officials have pushed the effort as a way to eliminate long lines and voting complications of years past. In 2004, Democrats alleged voter disenfranchisement in areas with large African-American populations, as voters waited hours and hours to vote.
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shulamite
Comment: Wow. People on MsNBC are saying that John McCain told Cindy under his breath at the end of the debate that Obama was a "b*stard". They're saying you can read his lips b/c he was facing the camera when he said it.
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queeniebunz
Comment: dcdouglass01 - I tend to agree. I didn't cause all that mess and I resent having to pay for other people's mistakes with my tax dollars. I'm not rolling in dough but I've been responsible with the little I have. I resent it that I am going to have to eat the cost of people who knew they couldn't buy the big-azzed McMansion they got into w/an ARM or an interest-ony loan they knew they couldn't pay once it adjusted. It truly ticks me off. I feel for people being foreclosed on but at the same time, I want to pop them upside the head for not doing their homework and for being greedy. They knew d*mned well they couldn't afford the sq. footage they got. Why am I going to have to pay for their mistake when I bought w/in my price range?
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bigchassie
Comment: Hit yall tomorrow. i'm out. tootles.
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Name:
musbdherbs
Comment: LOL@Queenie...well as much as condi make "seem" to be raceless...her hair says it all...negroid...negroid..negroid. Sounds like it'll be easy to spot you at the inauguration...i'll be wearing a powder blue zoot suit..lol
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musbdherbs
Comment: oh yeah...all of that zero down/bad credit bullshyt now seems to be exactly what is was..bullshyt. You know damn well 570 credit score, zero down and 50k salary does not buy you a 350k house.
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Name:
Cappaucino
Comment: And whats sad is after all this you would think the repubs would get no votes.. I am revoking cards from any blacks who vote repbulican, straight up.
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Name:
shulamite
Comment: Taurusingr, I loved it!!!!! You have a phenomenal voice... to go with a phenomenal song!
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yasmine1
Comment: Gallup polls shows Barack up by 8points today....
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Name:
Taurusingr
Comment: shulamite: I see you lady!! And Thank You!! sml!! Please pass "that" along, ahhiiiiight!! And again..."Thanks for the love"!! sml!!
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