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Taurusingr
Comment: Hollaaaaaaaaah! This is what's necessary for YT to stop the B.S.!...OTHER Whites HAVE TO stand up & speak out & make the racists feel out numbered, out dated &....out of their fukkin minds!! YT can only hear, respect, except the legitimacy of things from OTHER White people! (e.i. that scene in "A Time To Kill", when Sam Jackson said to Mathew Mc Conahey...."you have to make them SEE me"!) And the ONLY way they did?...was to imagine themselves going through what HE went through "FROM MATT"!!! The humanity to care or identify wasn't there otherwise! So, maybe?, more of these "out in the open" statements will be made, so that YT can finally "man up/GROW up", stop being so G.D.insecure & finally....."let the dumb shyt go"!!!! One!
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Yeah, Taurus, I feel you. But see, Amerikka can't even afford that. As we near the finish line, it becomes clearer and more apparent we need Barack Obama, God's hand is a mighty hand and guess what, that's who's been guiding this ship and trust when I tell you, no amount of man's bullshyt can come up against His power and his wrath. Palin's comments this weekend is about to blow up in her and McCain's face. Watch God rock.
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Reds
Comment: Gallup now has Obama by only 7 points over McCain, but racial factors will cause the numbers to continue to drift in McCain’s favor as we get closer to election. Most Americans blame the Republicans for the financial crisis, but if they knew that not only did Bush administration officials knew about the impending crisis, but were also the architect, there would be more outrage. Obama could therefore seal the deal by revealing these specifics. 60 Minutes and the NY Times article “Agency’s ’04 Rule Let Banks Pile Up New Debt” revealed the devil in the details. “..decisions made at a brief meeting on April 28, 2004, … On that bright spring afternoon, the five members of the Securities and Exchange Commission met in a basement hearing room to consider an urgent plea by the big investment banks. They wanted an exemption for their brokerage units from an old regulation that limited the amount of debt they could take on. The exemption would unshackle billions of dollars held in reserve as a cushion against losses on their investments. The five investment banks led the charge, including Goldman Sachs, which was headed by Henry M. Paulson Jr. Two years later, he left to become Treasury secretary (audio of SEC meeting: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/audio/national/2 0081003_SEC_AUDIO/SEC_Open_Meeting_04282004.mp3)….The 2004 decision for the first time gave the S.E.C. a window on the banks’ increasingly risky investments in mortgage-related securities. But the agency never took true advantage of that part of the bargain. The supervisory program under Mr. Cox, who arrived at the agency a year later, was a low priority. The commission assigned seven people to examine the parent companies. Since March 2007, the office has not had a director. And as of last month, the office had not completed a single inspection since it was reshuffled by Mr. Cox more than a year and a half ago.” That’s the guy McCain said should be fired. Now if Obama would use the debates and ads to squarely pin this on the Republicans with the specific details, it would be over. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/business/03sec.html? pagewanted=1&_r=2&sq=paulson%20Goldman%20Sachs&st=cse& scp=1
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huey
Comment: i like this guy...
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TGen
Comment: Reds, I think the BO camp will reveal things like that, I read that they're coming out with the Keating 5 thing. I'm concerned though that the Keating 5 thing is not "soundbit-ish" enough and will not effectively counter Moose's lies about him "palling around with terrorists." To their credit, the BO camp has tried to preempt the McCain's camp coming smears this week, but imo they're going to have to do a little better than "McCain camp stoops low again." So looks like the 527's will have to bring the heat for the BO camp instead. I SOOO hope they're on it! An aside: Another thing that concerns me is the debate tomorrow night. It seems like a perfect storm for an upset, it's in Tennessee (Belomont is a great school and Nashville is a great town, but the rest of the state is racist as can be so I'm sure some of the rednecks will sneak in and ask an "Ayers"-type question at the Town Hall *sigh*), it's being hosted by anti-Obama Tom Brokaw who I doubt will regulate the quality of the questions asked, Cain LOVES town halls for some reason, and it comes off the heels of Moose's reinserting Ayers et al. So the ingredients of a possible disaster are there. I just hope BO is on his A-game and can effectively thwart it. So Reds I agree with you that there are signs of concern, but I feel that if BO can dominate this next debate, he's good for the home stretch. *Crossing fingers*
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javone77
Comment: I hope people don't undereastimate John mccain and how low they are willing to go to win this election. It was announced over the weekend that the RNC is going to request an audit of Obama's fundraising books today.
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JGGIRL
Comment: The October surprise is here! Can you slay KEATING5!!
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JGGIRL
Comment: oops. that should be "say" Keating5. Although slaying them would be good too!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: even though there is a global economic meltdown the repugs [it's their legacy] choose to smear instead of calm economic fears: combine the economic fear with smears and racism and you get the October surprise . . . . . let's not forget the so called good Christians in the pulpits who are heavily involved in building the October surprise and who see GOD as so righteously on their side that they are taking on the IRS in their quest to be political from the pulpit
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bigchassie
Comment: ....Time keeps on slippin, slippin, slippin....into the future....OBAMA FLY LIKE AN EAGLE!!!
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smurfy
Comment: mothership,
again agree with you 100% and as i have said before, barack is gonna win in a landslide and mccain will be humiliated....just as his disabled wife was humliated when he left her....and he commenced to having affairs in front of her face....naw, naw, he and cindy ain't gonna make it to the white house...hebrews 13 vs 4.....just wait and see!
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McNasty
Comment: Co sign Mothership! When I heard palesincomparison's remarks my first reaction was to laugh. What a joke moose eating becky has become that she has no stance of her own on issues but continually digs up dirt (whether or not its true) to lob at Obama. Palesincomparison's hard on for Obama is gonna get her deselected and sent back to the snow caps!
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Reds
Comment: TGen: “I'm concerned though that the Keating 5 thing is not "soundbit-ish" enough and will not effectively counter Moose's lies about him "palling around with terrorists." ….Well, maybe he could use McCain’s racists and Anti-Semitic associations. This came up on Meet the press yesterday. “ MR. BEGALA: …And, and I think Governor Palin here is making a strategic mistake. This guilt by association path is going to be trouble ultimately for the McCain campaign. You know, you can go back—…. But John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization. It was the U.S. Council for World Freedom. It was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran-Contra scandal. It was an ultraconservative right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981, when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League, the parent organization, which ADL said, “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and Anti-Semites.” Now, that’s not John McCain. I don’t think he is that. But, but, you know, the problem is that a lot of people know John McCain’s record better than Governor Palin, and he does not want to play guilt by association or this thing could blow up in his face.” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27034205/page/2/
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bigchassie
Comment: They played "The Stripper Theme" for paleface today on the TJMS. she does look like a librarian/stripper! lol!
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queeniebunz
Comment: I have faith in God and in Obama to do what he needs to do. He knew he would get the same attacks he got in the primary elections. He knew it and even alluded to it awhile ago. He will be prepared for the debate. I am not worried. Really all he has to do is bring up healthcare because that scares people. Sh*t, it scares me too! Commercials about McCain's healthcare plan are in heavy rotation here in the MD/DC/VA area. I hope that's true for the entire country. Even with Brokaw, all he has to do is stick to the issues everyone is worried about - the economy/healthcare - and he'll be fine. And he needs to continue to focus on McCain and how his voting was 90% in line with G Dubya. McCain's plans are so flawed that all Obama has to do is keep the focus on what he will do and how it will benefit everyone over McCain's plans. Go Obama! >Musb - I'm already sewing my leopard print trench coat so it'll be ready for Obama's innauguration parade!
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queeniebunz
Comment: Regarding Sarah Palin - I'm waiting to see how the investigation into firing the guy who wouldn't fire her ex-brother-in-law goes. They had a ruling that they could continue the probe and that state employees would be testifying. That's good news that will distract her hopefully. As for her comments, well, they need to hammer her with her being part of a group that wanted Alaska to secede from the U.S. - that's what I would counter her claims with.
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bigchassie
Comment: QUEENIBUNZ>i know that's right gurl!
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javone77
Comment: queenie: I just read that mccain admitted today that his healthcare plan will require significant cuts to medicare!!!
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Deb70
Comment: That brother is the truth...good for him. And I agree that Palin is going to reap all of this, and Barack will indeed be the victor. As ignorant as she is, she has the nerve to disparage Obama. Fascinating. She is nothing but an empty-headed tool. And Queenie, I agree, I am surprised the Obama campaign hasn't brought up the issue about Palin and her husband re: the Alaska independence issue. That woman makes my stomach hurt when I see her. I used to react to Hillary the same way during the primaries.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Yep, Begala sounded the alarm and I was proud of him for it. From my understanding the Obama camp is ready to play hardball. This is what we didn't see in the primary for now obvious reasons. Let's get ready to do the Obama rumble cuz I know Michelle done sat down and said to him baby, " *If you want fame, fame costs! And right about here is where you start paying...with sweat!*
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Deb70- Actually, I really don't have anything against Hillary. I really don't. I think she would've been a good thing for this country as well. And, I don't begrudge her for her campaign. She did what she had to do to get the nomination. She lost but she was just doing what everyone else does. I can't fault her for that. As for Palin, well I think Obama and Biden are doing the right thing to keep the focus on McCain. They are making her to be irrelevant and unimportant which diminishes her. I like that tactic. And I love how Biden handled her in the debate the other day. Did anybody see the SNL spoof of the debate the other day? It was HILARIOUS! And the funny thing is that the guy playing Biden stole the show from Tina Fey. He got more laughs from me than she did and that surprised me. If you wanna see it, go to http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/vp- debate-open-palin-biden/727421/
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musbdherbs
Comment: LOL@Queenie...aye I'm running into a problem. The stacks I'm having custom-made may not be here in time. They have a ban on exotic fish from china and my shoes wouldn't be complete w/out them. Damn Damn Damn!
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javone77
Comment: mus: you're trippin LOL
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queeniebunz
Comment: >musb - See! YOu think I'm joking. But this is the coat I'm making. I was going to order it but they ran out so I'm making my own. I sew so I just see something and if I can't get it, I make it myself...Mine is actually going to be made from darker, richer faux fur and not the material on the catalog coat. And mine will have a fly red lining that'll make it pop - a surprise when you open the coat. Pop! ... http://www.newport-news.com/shop/product_single.aspx?s tyle_id=30608161&index=45&gp_coll_id=9&gp_cat_id=1649& nav_cat_id=5409&category_id=5410...perhaps you can get your platforms at Harold Pener! LOLOLOL!!! Too bad Cavalier Men's Shop ain't around no mo!
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MzTee
Comment: Taurus...I so agree with your post. It takes other white folks to trumpet the alarm before they'll give credence to anything. And, Mothership...you ain't neva lied. Obama got this because the CREATOR is on his side. Musb...if what you heard about Obama playing hardball is true, I say it's about damn time. Let him bring this ISHT home Chicago style.
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TGen
Comment: Reds, THANK YOU for reminding me of that! I had forgotten about that, but that was HUGE. I was SO proud of Begala when he unleashed that new info on McCain's azzociation with racists and anti-Semites. That was brutiful, lol. I think it's more than apparent how BCinton won twice, he had some no-holds-barred pitbulls working for him. If the BO camp is smart, they'll use that jewel Begala just dropped in their laps, if need be. They can also effectively silence Moose by highlighting that she quoted a well-known anti-Semite in her nomination speech, another jewel given to them by RFK's son. He wrote about it on Huffington, so it's not hard to find. They have the guns if they ever feel the need to put this thing away once and for all. We'll see... P.S. Another good way (unrelated) is to call for a drawback of that bailout plan. It was a bad idea, obviously, looking at the world markets. Whatever candidate is willing to say so first, will make a huge dent in the polls cuz most Americans hated that bill. Just a thought...
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Reds
Comment: Queeniebunz: “As for her comments, well, they need to hammer her with her being part of a group that wanted Alaska to secede from the U.S. - that's what I would counter her claims with.” ….This is a perfect example of why Obama is still not able to put away McCain. The McCain camp has used every chance to question Obama’s patriotism, even when it is so trivial that even the McCain supporters don’t get it. But all you need to say is that the guy is not patriotic and it will have an effect on illiterate voters. Obama’s attitude is to take the “high road”, but there is a way to respond without going down to McCain’s level. Just reference what they did, also. Example, ‘my patriotism as been questioned for so and so, so what about Governor Palin’s support for a secession organization.’ Another example, ‘I’m chastised for my circumstantial association with alleged terrorists, so how about senator McCain’s past associations with the U.S. Council for World Freedom, an extremists, racists and Anti-Semite group.” What’s low road about doing this?... “I'm already sewing my leopard print trench coat so it'll be ready for Obama's innauguration parade!”… More power to you, I’m having a more and more sinking feeling about this as days go by…. “Musb...if what you heard about Obama playing hardball is true, I say it's about damn time. Let him bring this ISHT home Chicago style.” ….I’ve been hearing that for far too long, so I’ll only buy into it when I see it with my own two eyes.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Queenie...OHHHHHH! You talking about that sorta coat. Hell, I was imaging a broke down fran drescher(sp) look..all tight and wrong! Ok, well in that case I will make a trip to Iverson Mall's Harold Pener and get me a nba/long coat suit and some gators. TG..I think the surrogates will use this..not necessarily Obama. Begala dropped the bomb and you're right..it's out there now. Re: the bailout...that won't happen if for no other reason..most americans weren't educated enough about the bill to be able to make an informed opinion. They just heard the media's filtered version. So that wouldn't be a politically smart..nor judicious position for either candidate to take.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Reds...if people are expecting for Obama to be as incredulous and sinister as McCain...that won't happen. If people are expecting him to be Rove or Cheney..that won't happen either. Obama has shown that when push comes to shove..he delivers (in his own way). I have no doubt that democratic strategists (those given the go-ahead) will be making these alliances newsworthy in a way Obama or many of those close to him will not. He won't go after Palin and his people will only (if at all) make pas.sing references to it. I believe.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Ohhhh, I smell serious desperation on McPain's part. Smurf, if that ain't some sculduggerous shyt I don't know what is. Wifey is disabled and McPain goes alley cattin'. That in itself shows what his pedigree is.
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bigchassie
Comment: MUSBHERBS>yeah, thats why he cool like dat! *seeing Obama with his shades on*
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javone77
Comment: Palin has brought Rev wright out her a$$. but, uhm.........where is the witch doctor?????
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bigchassie
Comment: MOTHERSHIP>wasn't his first wife supposed to bring out a book on her and mcslain?
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Reds - there you go all gloom and doom. I have said it before and I'll say it again - the high road is working for Obama. Obama is handling this well. He is letting them know that he understands their tactics and that it doesn't worry him and that they are doing it out of desperation because they can't stand on their flawed platform. I agree with what someone else said - that a surrogate group will handle the Palin stuff. All Obama and Biden have to do is keep hammering home the issues and they'll be fine and I'll be in the crowd wearing my skinny dark Victoria Secret jeans, my fly-azzed trench coat and my Jackie-O glasses. I'll be looking so good Michelle will see me in the crowd and want a coat like mine! So I have no doubt that Obama will be the one "moving on up" to 1600 Penn Ave NW. I have no doubt. The stars are aligning in his favor. The only "October surprise" y'all need to be worried about is the EUR Cyber Surprise party y'all gonna throw me for my b'day on Oct 28th!
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bigchassie
Comment: OOOH QUEENIEBUNZ, YOU SEW???!! OOH I CAN'T STAND YOU!! i wish i knew how to sew! that's a wonderful gift! i know that coat is going to be sharp! pictures! i want pics!!
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Reds
Comment: Musbdherbs: “I have no doubt that democratic strategists (those given the go-ahead) will be making these alliances newsworthy in a way Obama or many of those close to him will not.”….The problem I have with that is that there are too few truly Obama allies in the press and even then they are concentrated on only one or two media outlets, Olberman, Maddow,.. Without the ads, he won’t be able to reach the people who he really needs to - the possibly crossover voters who may only watch Fox….BTW anyone watching what’s going on Wall street. The Dow is down almost 500 points. Not wanting to make light of a bad situation, but let’s hope the economy will at least continue to help Obama, since he can’t bring himself to doing it.
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bigchassie
Comment: QUEENIEBUNZ>well divas do what divas do. while you sportin your coat on Inaugration day, i'll be shashaying my sexy black catsuit at the election party in beautiful downtown ATL.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Reds - the sinking economy is the best thing that ever happened to Obama. It is one of the stars that has aligned in his favor. >bigchassie - if you go to my myspace page, www.myspace.com/queeniebunz, I have pics of rag dolls I made for my nieces and nephew in my first photo album. Check it out. I have some skillz. I can't do it like Project Runway folk but I can do a little somethin somethin...
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Chassie, yes she was supposed to. I hope she hurries up, spill all the dirt on his azz!
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musbdherbs
Comment: Reds..i'm not talking about Talk Show hosts. As the campaign said they will have a multifaceted approach in dealing w/Mccain. Begala doens't work for the Obama campaign but let's not believe for one minute that him putting that out there was not orchestrated and yes..other democratic strategist will follow. The difference now is that it won't just be Olbermann and Maddow...the calvalry which means that the story themselves will receive more airtime than they would've just on Olber/Dow. Crossover voters who watch Fox really won't be Obama's concerns. It's independies who watch FOX, MNSBC, CNN and PBS who will make the difference. He can count out the Fox crew and still win..which he will.
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bigchassie
Comment: MOTHERSHIP>for real! boy that will be some outright mess when that book comes out. mcslain will need to just hang it up! it's ovah!
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khufu
Comment: the majority of white folks will never stop being raicst........
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bigchassie
Comment: KHUFU>For sure. how true.
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khufu
Comment: good though that some yt's are speaking truth
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McNasty
Comment: BARBER SHOP
John McCain and Barack Obama somehow ended up at the same barbershop.
As they sat there, each being worked on by a different barber, not a word was spoken.
The 2 barbers were even afraid to start a conversation, for fear it would turn to politics.
As the barbers finished their shaves, the one who had McCain in his chair reached for the after shave.
McCain was quick to stop him saying,
'No thanks, my wife Cindy will smell that and think I've been in a whorehouse.'
The second barber turned to Obama and said, 'How about you?'
Obama replied, 'Go ahead, my wife doesn't know what the inside of a whorehouse smells like.'
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WordUp
Comment: WORD, any negroid laying on his azz even thinking about not voting this year should be hung or lynched! For those that apply, please get off your lazy azz and do the right thing! Your vote will count. Another round of republicans in office will be the end of life as we know it --if them bastards get another chance cuz enough of didn't vote for the black man! PLEASE VOTE.
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Reds
Comment: I think what’s happening on Wall street, despite the bailout, is the result of continued revelations of the details of how we got into this mess and the fact that the said people are still in charge. Stuff like the 60 Minutes piece on credit swaps and the recklessness of bank officials and the Bush administration are reverberating throughout the market. But a lot of the average joe still doesn’t get it, they just see the effect. If they also get wise to the situation, then the possibility of another Republican administration would scare the day light out of them. That’s what we need the ads for, to break it down to their level. Analysts in the media use jargons that are out of their reach. Even the 60 Minutes piece would be difficult to fully digest if I hadn’t been reading up on the stuff of late.
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bigchassie
Comment: PLEASE PRAY FOR THE OBAMA FAMILY!!!!!
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Reds
Comment: The Dow is now flirting with a 600 point drop.
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shulamite
Comment: Reds, I'm worried that Bush will move to stay the election. People laugh at me but the mayor of NYC is attempting to do THAT VERY THING for NY b/c of the "financial crisis". It isn't looking good for our country.
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shulamite
Comment: musbdherbs and Reds, the media is finally getting a backbone for truth. I was stunned that the Associated Press ran as it's LEAD story on a Sunday the fact that Palin lied about Obama/Ayers and that she made "racially tinged" comments. That's HUGE for the AP to do that in their lead story. The editor wasn't saying "the Obama camp calls this a lie". The editor was saying "This is a lie". Huge difference in how the media is taking ownership of the facts and it's position statements. That gave me hope.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >shulamite - that may happen on a municipal level but there's no way it could fly on the federal level. There would have to be an amendment and there's no way in h*ll that anybody, Republicans included would let Bush stay in office. He's the dill weed that got us into this mess. You know you've done a poor job governing when the candidate running for your job from your party doesn't even want his name on your lips and won't speak yours. McCain doesn't even want to hear the name "Bush". And there's a Dem majority in Congress. There's no way they would pass such an amendment. No way. Bush has a better chance of running through h*ll in gasoline shorts and not catching fire than he has of getting a 3rd term. Nah. Nope. Not gonna happen.
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Reds
Comment: Queeniebunz: “>shulamite - that may happen on a municipal level but there's no way it could fly on the federal level”….They could fake another terrorist attack.
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bigchassie
Comment: QUEENIEBUNZ>well good for you queenie! i always admire folks that sews! wish i had stayed with it when i took it up in high school!
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shulamite
Comment: Reds, you're right, that's all it takes. The HuffPost is reporting that a Republican strategist is saying that the only thing left to save McCain's candidacy (read = the shadow government behind McCain) is a terrorist attack on US ground. As if it is a good thing if that happened to the American people.
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shulamite
Comment: Queenie, the Dems don't have to pass such an amendment. There is such a thing as Executive Order that gives the Chief Executive (Bush) unilateral decision making in times of crisis or terrorism. Executive Orders don't get voted on. They get instated. Now, will Bush have a riot on his hands if he does it? Probably, yes. But there is no legal thing preventing him from doing it.
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bigchassie
Comment: Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Barack Obama, after attacks on his character and past associations, is hitting back by highlighting John McCain's ties to the ``Keating Five'' savings-and-loan scandal that embroiled the Republican presidential nominee in the 1980s.
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David Plouffe, Obama's campaign manager, e-mailed millions of supporters on Oct. 5 directing them to a new Web site, keatingeconomics.com, dedicated to McCain's ties to the scandal. It features a 30-second Web advertisement and beginning at noon Washington time the site will also host a 13-minute documentary called ``Keating Economics: John McCain and the Making of a Financial Crisis'' produced by the campaign.
``The McCain campaign has tried to avoid talking about the scandal, but with so many parallels to the current crisis, McCain's Keating history is relevant and voters deserve to know the facts -- and see for themselves the pattern of poor judgment by John McCain,'' Plouffe wrote.
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bigchassie
Comment: With less than a month before election day and Obama's poll numbers rising amid the financial meltdown, the Democratic presidential candidate is hoping to link McCain's approach to the current financial crisis with his role in the savings-and-loan crisis of the late 1980s. The attacks come as McCain's campaign said last week it would divert attention from the economy to focus on Obama's character.
Associations Questioned
Over the weekend, McCain's running mate, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, repeatedly linked the Democratic presidential candidate with a domestic terrorist group from the 1970s, telling supporters Obama used to ``pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country,'' a reference to his acquaintance with Bill Ayers, a former member of the Weather Underground group that carried out a series of bombings in the early 1970s. Obama served on a charity board with Ayers and has denounced the bombings.
Obama ``is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country,'' Palin, 44, told donors at a fundraiser Oct. 4 in Costa Mesa, California. ``This, ladies and gentleman, is not the kind of change that I think we should be believing in.''
McCain adviser Greg Strimple said last week that they were ``looking for a very aggressive last 30 days.''
``We're looking to turning the page on this financial crisis and getting back to discussing Mr. Obama's liberal, aggressively liberal, record and how he will be too risky for the Americans,'' Strimple told reporters on an Oct. 2 conference call.
Potentially Risky Strategy
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bigchassie
Comment: The strategy of invoking the Keating Five scandal may prove risky, as Obama's candidacy has been built around a message of hope with the promise of a different kind of politics. Just yesterday, in response to Palin's attacks, Obama said he would ``keep on talking about the issues that matter,'' pledging to focus on the economy, health care, education and energy.
Still, Obama's advisers say McCain was the first to launch guilt-by-association attacks, and because of the relevance of the Keating Five to today's financial crisis, such attacks cut sharply against the Republican presidential candidate.
``The Keating Five involved all the things that have brought the modern crisis,'' William Black, a former deputy director of the Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corp., says in the video. ``Senator McCain has not learned the lessons and has continued to follow policies that are going to produce a disaster.''
McCain Campaign Response
The McCain campaign responded by calling Obama dishonest.
``The difference here is clear: John McCain has been open and honest about the Keating matter, and even the Democratic special counsel in charge recommended that Senator McCain be completely exonerated,'' McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said. ``By contrast, Barack Obama has been fundamentally dishonest about his friendship and work with the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, whose radical group bombed the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol.''
Obama has opened up a lead over McCain, 72, in the aftermath of their first debate Sept. 26 as the economy deteriorates.
Earlier in September, a Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll showed more respondents said Obama would do a better job handling the financial crisis than McCain, and almost half said they believed Obama had better ideas to strengthen the economy than his rival.
During his first Senate term, Arizona senator McCain and four Democrats faced accusations of improperly intervening with federal regulators on behalf of former savings-and-loan executive Charles Keating in the 1980s savings-and-loan industry collapse. The five senators took contributions from the Arizona businessman and while the Senate Ethics Committee reprimanded McCain, it cleared him of wrongdoing.
Ethics Committee Finding
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bigchassie
Comment: The Senate Ethics Committee, chaired by the late Alabama Democrat Howell Heflin, ultimately found that McCain had ``exercised poor judgment.'' Since then McCain has worked to reach across the aisle on legislation to strengthen ethics rules and on other issues such as immigration, where he formed an alliance with Massachusetts Democratic Senator Edward M. Kennedy.
``The point of the film and the Web site is that John McCain still hasn't learned his lesson,'' Plouffe wrote. ``And this time, McCain's bankrupt economic philosophy has put our economy at the brink of collapse and put millions of Americans at risk of losing their homes.''
While this is the first time Obama's campaign has brought up the Keating Five scandal, Obama was asked about it at a May 10 press conference in South Bend, Oregon.
Obama said he had been asked about ``a whole host of issues and associations that were a lot more flimsy than John McCain's relationship to Keating Five and what I have said is that I cannot quarrel with the American people wanting to know more about that.''
To contact the reporter on this story: Julianna Goldman in Asheville, North Carolina at
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bigchassie
Comment: now with this on the table that dayum beetch paleface should SHUT DA FYUCKK UP!!!!!
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Reds
Comment: Queeniebunz, this the type of news that you would like:
“USA Today reports Democrats have added more than 800,000 voters in the eight most competitive states: Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Colorado, Iowa, Nevada, New Mexico and New Hampshire. Republicans are said to have lost 300,000 voters in those states. According to the Washington Post, the ratio of new Democratic to Republican voters in Florida is more than two to one; in Colorado and Nevada, four to one; and in North Carolina, six to one.” http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/6/headlines#8
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queeniebunz
Comment: >shulamite - nah. Ain't ever gonna happen. And you're wrong about an executive order. The 22nd Amendment prohibits that - regardless of the situation, it's law that can't be bucked by an executive order.
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Taurusingr
Comment: Whaddup fam! Yo, does anyone else notice how the media is just "dancing around", not "seeing" the obvious, looking AWAY from, that big as-s "elephant in the room".....RACISM!?? Now, with all their "antennas" for that shyt when J.Wright said what he said...and when Obie ran in AA states in the primary?, they "picked up on"/brought that shyt up! But now?, now that it's THEIR as-s showing just how IGnant,stupid & insecure they REALLY are that they are STILL considering NOT voting for Obama & thereby continuing this fukked up economic situation?...."they" ain't got SHYT to say! YT is a muthafukkin piece of fukked UP work!!! One!
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Reds - I appreciate the good news. I was just reading that there are 4 million new Dem voters registering and they're saying that these votes will go to Obama. Like I keep saying - the stars are aligning...this is gonna happen in my lifetime. I can't explain how excited I am. I really can't.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Taurusingr - I don't know what news programs you are watching but I've seen countless segments on the issue of race and how it will impact this election. There was an author on the Today Show last week who flat out said that he completely believes race will be the deciding factor - can white people see past Obama's color to vote for the correct person? That was what they said. I have seen this topic mentioned all over the place. I'm confused that you would even say it. It's even on message boards, the Jon Stewart Show, Chris Matthews "Hard Ball" etc. *scratching head*
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Despair about a weakening global economy is sweeping across Wall Street, propelling the Dow Jones industrials down more than 700 points. Investors around the world have been selling off stocks as they come to realize that financial systems in the United States and other countries need more than government bailouts to fix them.
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bigchassie
Comment: QUEENIEBUNZ>I'm excited too.
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shulamite
Comment: From The Nation "Executive Orders (EOs) are legally binding orders given by the President, acting as the head of the Executive Branch, to Federal Administrative Agencies. Executive Orders are generally used to direct federal agencies and officials in their execution of congressionally established laws or policies. However, in many instances they have been used to guide agencies in directions contrary to congressional intent.
***Executive Orders do not require Congressional approval to take effect but they have the same legal weight as laws passed by Congress.*** The President's source of authority to issue Executive Orders can be found in the Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution which grants to the President the "executive Power." Section 3 of Article II further directs the President to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." To implement or execute the laws of the land, Presidents give direction and guidance to Executive Branch agencies and departments, often in the form of Executive Orders.Executive Orders are controversial because they allow the President to make major decisions, even law, without the consent of Congress. This, of course, runs against the general logic of the Constitution -- that no one should have power to act unilaterally. Nevertheless, Congress often gives the President considerable leeway in implementing and administering federal law and programs. Sometimes, Congress cannot agree exactly how to implement a law or program. In effect, this leaves the decision to the federal agencies involved and the President that stands at their head. When Congress fails to spell out in detail how a law is to be executed, it leaves the door open for the President to provide those details in the form of Executive Orders."
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Reds
Comment: At one point the Dow was down 770 points. Is America about to go under and take the rest of the world with it? No, not necessarily, just as it wasn’t the case with 9/11. But indicators that we are in deep trouble is despite all this, people are still flirting with the idea of putting back in office the same people who got us into this… well, we don’t even know what it is or how deep, because every week seems to bring a new crisis.
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shulamite
Comment: "If Congress does not like what the executive branch is doing, it has two main options. First, it may rewrite or amend a previous law, or spell it out in greater detail how the Executive Branch must act. Of course, the President has the right to veto the bill if he disagrees with it, so, in practice, a 2/3 majority if often required to override an Executive Order. Congress is less likely to challenge EOs that deal with foreign policy, national defense, or the implementation and negotiation of treaties, as these are powers granted largely to the President by the Constitution. As the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, the President is also considered the nation's "Chief Diplomat." In fact, given national security concerns, some defense or security related EOs (often called National Security Directives or Presidential Decision Directives) are not made public. In addition to congressional recourse, Executive Orders can be challenged in court, usually on the grounds that the Order deviates from "congressional intent" or exceeds the President's constitutional powers. In one such notable instance, President Harry Truman, was rebuked by the Supreme Court for overstepping the bounds of presidential authority. After World War II, Truman seized control of steel mills across the nation in an effort to settle labor disputes. In response to a challenge of this action, the Supreme Court ruled that the seizure was unconstitutional and exceeded presidential powers because neither the Constitution or any statute authorized the President to seize private businesses to settle labor disputes. For the most part, however, the Court has been fairly tolerant of wide range of executive actions. The ultimate criticism of Executive Orders is that the runaway use of EOs could result in a President becoming a virtual dictator, capable of making major policy decisions without any congressional or judicial input. The following web sites contain articles arguing against the liberal use of Executive Orders by the President"
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javone77
Comment: ya'll mccain is coming and he;s coming HARD! Barack gonna have to take it to the streets. Mccain is downright insulting a new speech he is supposed to give today.
(CNN) — John McCain is slated to raise questions about Barack Obama's background and question the Illinois senator's truthfulness at a rally in Tennessee later Monday, one day before the two White House hopefuls square off at the second presidential debate.
The comments, which come hours after Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin publicly questioned Obama's patriotism while raising questions about his connections to onetime radical William Ayers, are among McCain's harshest language to date on the campaigning trail and signal the campaign is ratcheting its attacks on the Illinois senator with less than 30 days remaining until Election Day.
"I don’t need lessons about telling the truth to American people," McCain will say according to prepared text sent out by his campaign. "And were I ever to need any improvement in that regard, I probably wouldn’t seek advice from a Chicago politician."
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javone77
Comment: "My opponent’s touchiness every time he is questioned about his record should make us only more concerned," McCain will also say. "For a guy who’s already authored two memoirs, he’s not exactly an open book. It’s as if somehow the usual rules don’t apply, and where other candidates have to explain themselves and their records, Senator Obama seems to think he is above all that."
The new language is part of the McCain campaign's effort to move away from the country's economic crisis as the primary narrative on the campaign trail, aides told CNN's Dana Bash earlier Monday. McCain, the aides say, will try to reframe the economic issue into an overall theme that Obama is still a virtual unknown, and is not the right person to steer the country through its current financial turmoil.
"All people want to know is: What has this man ever actually accomplished in government? What does he plan for America? In short: Who is the real Barack Obama?" McCain will say.
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shulamite
Comment: http://www.cato.org/testimony/ct-wo102799.html
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shulamite
Comment: So, queeniebuzz, it all depends on if the Supreme Court is in the back pocket of George Bush. By then, what we know as democracy will have been destroyed.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Shulamite - I understand what an executive order is but there is no provision for a president to unilaterally say, "I think I'm gonna stay president. This whole 2 term thing ain't workin for me. And while I'm at it, I think I want a raise." Come on, now. I mean, really.
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bigchassie
Comment: JAVONE>don't worry, Obama is comming back at him. did you read what i posted fro yahoo.com about the "Keating Five".
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Taurusingr
Comment: queeniebunz: Yeah I've seen that! What I HAVEN'T seen is the media holding these racist accountable for BEING racist! (even when the country's economy is at stake!) What they have done is...made it like it's "their/ the public's "choice" to be racist & it's NOT that bad of a thing EVEN THOU Obama's plan is THE ONLY PLAN to fix the economy! If the media would call them on it (like they DID DO J.Wright & shyt!??? then "it" would be a DIFFERENT STORY!! Holla!
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queeniebunz
Comment: javonne - everyone kind of knew this kind of attack was coming. They're prepared for it. It doesn't worry me and it doesn't seem tp worry Obama either.
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javone77
Comment: chassie: yes I read it. ya'll it's about to get nasty in a hurry smh
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javone77
Comment: queenie: I am worried enough for all the parties involved LOL
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Taurusingr
Comment: queeeniebunz:..Like do you notice...when they DO say something about how "someone' isn't doing this or that...it's ALWAYS directed towards Obama! Like HE's THE ONLY ONE who has something to prove!! This "White Entitlement" is a damn ......JOKE! Holla!
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queeniebunz
Comment: >javonne - Matthew 6:25-34. Pray on it, meditate on it. Worry ain't gonna get you nuthin but gray hair and wrinkles. My Daddy is all white on top so I try to worry as little as possible. I'm doomed to the gray hair. I'll be d*mned if I'm gonna add wrinkles to the equation. Have a glass of zin and chill out. God's got this!
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bigchassie
Comment: QUEEN/JAVONE>HE SURE DOES! He did not come this far for nothing! this man is destined to be POTUS.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Taurusingr - my take on white entitlement. Check it out... http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view &friendID=61261055&blogID=433544084
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javone77
Comment: queenie: can you send me that scripture to my myspace page?
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Taurusingr
Comment: queeniebunz:Have youuheard of a man named Tim Wise? Google THAt mo fo, FOR REAL!!! If you think "this guy" "spoke on it"? Sheeeeeeeit! you ain't seent nothin yet!! He's THE TRUTH!... RUTH!! I will even MP3 his speech to ANYONE who wants it!! then...yall pass it out to all yo White friends! Holla if yall here me! One!
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HarrisThomas
Comment: well alrighty, then, today, the Dow fell 800 points . . . . . . repugs can smear all they want and/or rant racist all they want, the October surprise is the meltdown of the world economy and whether the candidates can calm fears about a depression
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queeniebunz
Comment: Taurusingr - I don't get what you are saying. Who is "this guy"?...do you mean the guy the article is about?
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Taurusingr
Comment: queeniebunz: YES!
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queeniebunz
Comment: >javonne - I sent it to you. :)
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Reds
Comment: Taurusingr: "queeniebunz:Have youuheard of a man named Tim Wise?"....I was shocked to find out he was white after reading his article. He is the truth.
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Taurusingr
Comment: Yo I'm leaving now but if ANYONE wants that MP3?..either leave your email address here, or at my youtube, "Taurusingr" channel, ahiiiiight!?? Have a good one yall! sml! One!
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bigchassie
Comment: HARRISTHOMAS>....and the clock on the wall keeps on ticking...and ticking....and ticking.........
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: Republican John McCain is calling Democratic rival Barack Obama a liar. __
The GOP presidential candidate told a campaign rally: "Sen. Obama has accused me of opposing regulation to avert this crisis. I guess he believes if a lie is big enough and repeated often enough it will be believed." __ the time has passed for opening up a can of azz whip on JMc, I'm sick and tired of this shyt . . . . . link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27053721/
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Name:
Taurusingr
Comment: Reds: Yep!!, I know huh!??? Dude IS the biz!....riiiiight!? Holla!
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Name:
HarrisThomas
Comment: ticking chassie? . . . . . gurrl, the debate tomorrow night just ought to be a shyt storm and fiery which is what it seems JMc wants by outright calling BHO a liar
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Taurusingr
Comment: Reds:..One mo gin! LOL!!1 I hope Obama nem know of dude!! HE would a KEY component in Obama's campaign/staff/movement! Ya dig?? One!
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Taurusingr - I'm gonna disagree with you. Obama and his camp are doing their very best to leave race out of this. They can't play the race card. This guy is all about the race card. H*ll, he's white and HE'S playing the race card! LOL...nah. Obama needs to stay the course and let other folk do that mess. He's all good as he is.
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bigchassie
Comment: i tell you those rethugs have really screwed us royally!
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: HARRISTHOMAS>i cant see that debate tomorrow. i refuse to. i may end up cursing out somebody cause of that azzhole mcslime. YALL, WE GOT TO KEEP ON PRAYING FOR OBAMA!!!
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bigchassie
Comment: THREE WEEKS YALL....WE HAVE ONLY THREE WEEKS!!!!
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Name:
Taurusingr
Comment: Queeniebunz:..you know?."Something" told me "you" would..."disagree", and to you I say...."I don't think so"!! As I said..tim could be a great comoonent in "either".obama's campaign,staff, or movement! Now..:how can "you" say someone like "wise" wouldn't be??? "You" must not "understand" who/what "wise" is about! He is about educating those dumb as-s yt's about their stupid racist shyt! Now...how can someone like "that" not be an advantage to obama!? Huh? No one said dude should come out "now" and fukk up obie's chances and shyt! So...I think you should rethink your "interpretation" of what I said! One!
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Taurusingr
Comment: queeniebunz: Sorry, that should be...."Tim could be a great "component" etc... (blackberry slip!)
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Name:
oshun
Comment: well alright, mr. trumka! let's not lose that fire come election day!
he made it plain, what else can i say?
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oshun
Comment: regarding questions over the "keating 5", surely they didn't think obama was gonna put something out there without fact-checking.
cnn reported this morning that EVERY claim made against mccain regarding this scandal was found to be TRUE.
THAT'S what i'm talkin' bout. you wanna bring up old ish that may or may not have happened when b.o. was 8??? well, how 'bout this one, gramps - and you were a grown azz man when this went down!
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