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Name: Taurusingr
Comment: This dude can do the job! I hope he gets it! But on the other hand?...I hope Obie DOESN'T choose Hillary as SoS! She has an axe to grind, she's emotional & untrustworthy! Sheeeeit! she would NOT hesitate to try to undo anything Obie WOULD do! And besides....He's suppose to be about a DIFFERENT Washington! She's part of the old smelly shyt that's BEEN IN Washington! Yo "O"!...just vet this chick & then throw her as-s out!, just like she would've did you!, if the situation was reversed! Hell, she would even "smell you" if you sat on her fukkin face! So...just let her get on that boat with Palin & ..."saaaaaail on" just, "saaaaaaaail on! (said like Lakeside"! One!
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Great news, made me day when the news broke yesterday. Just the other day a bunch of black folks were complaining about Obama's appointments, saying he's going to fill up his cabinet with white folks. I was like ya'll gots to chill he knows what he's doing. One thing folks seem to forget is Obama is very aware of life through the eyes of black and white folks. I.e. He is aware of black's struggle to reach the top and knows to hook his people up, which he has started doing with Valerie jarrett n' Eric Holder. He is also very aware of the white resentment when they see black folks doing well, so he's walking a fine line.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Yo, I know Light-skin-ned brothas are back in style with Rak getting elected and sh1t....But c'mon man, you gotta give some dark-skin-ned muthafuccers a job too...I'm only seeing white folks and light skin-ned dudes getting posts...Don't just trot out Michelle and sh1t and think thats all cool...Put some Black muthafuccers on that wall man....I wanna see the darkness of night with the moon shining bright...Put some Dajmon Hensu (SP) type muthafuccers on that wall....I know I spelled his name wrong...but ya'll know who I'm talking 'bout....
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ....Yo...wait-a-minute...Rev. Wright is light..His boy Hill Harper is light...This dude is light...Jarrett is kinda reddish...Yo, WTF Rak?...Deep-dark-chocolate folks ain't gon get no love?...WTF?...Rak, Rak, what you doing bro?...What's up, what's up?....
Name: MsBlake
Comment: I am pleased to hear Hilary is under consideration despite all the drama in the primaries, cos she's still very popular and liked by millions and I think her appoinment would keep her supporters (in government n' media) happy. Also one cannot deny the effort she put in for Barack, it wasn't half hearted like Bill. Alot of women were saying I'm voting for Barack only cos Hillary said so. Secondly if she's a part of his administration her people would put in 100% to make Obama's term successful, cos if he goes down they all go down and they wouldn't want her to be associated with a failed administration. It looks like the Sec. of State position is in jeopardy right now anyway cos of her husband's business dealings which could lead to a conflict of interest. Perhaps she should be in charge of healthcare, but should be given a role in Barack's cabinet. JMO
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Lol @ Boot and light skin black folks in Obama's cabinet, thats too funny and I wont be surprised if some folks out there actually think like that. I'm pretty sure Susan Rice will get a position too maybe National Security Advisor, oh but wait she's light skinded too, Obama clearly has a dilema on his hands lol
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: I see the sh1t now...He'll knock-up the dark skin-ned woman...but he'll hook-up his light skin-ned peeps...Ok, so he married her...
Name: Reds
Comment: I’m very surprised that Obama chose to have a black AG, but I give him credit for showing the courage to do so. But will this courage carry over to bringing criminal charges against the Bush Administration…Report: Obama Unlikely to Bring Charges Against Bush Officials for Torture. The Associated Press reports Barack Obama’s incoming administration is unlikely to bring criminal charges against government officials who authorized or engaged in torture during the Bush presidency. Two Obama advisers said there’s little—if any—chance that the incoming president’s Justice Department will go after anyone involved in authorizing or carrying out interrogations… Ex-CIA Officials Tied to Rendition Program and Faulty Iraq Intel Tapped to Head Obama's Intelligence Transition Team. John Brennan and Jami Miscik, both former intelligence officials under George Tenet, are leading Barack Obama’s review of intelligence agencies and helping make recommendations to the new administration. Brennan has supported warrantless wiretapping and extraordinary rendition, and Miscik was involved with the politicized intelligence alleging weapons of mass destruction in the lead-up to the war on Iraq. … As Obama Vows to Close Guantanamo, His Advisers Are Reportedly Crafting a Plan to Create a New System of Preventive Detention and National Security Courts. Last week, the Associated Press reported Obama advisers are crafting a plan that would put some Guantanamo Bay prisoners in front of a new court system designed to handle so-called “national security” cases.
Name: TGen
Comment: I like this pick. This from the article: "the civil rights community can exhale and says that someone that is fair and open will take the top law enforcement seat in Washington" sealed it for me. I'm hoping this guy will bring MAJOR reform to the justice system with all these unfair convictions and sentencing (Marcus Dixon, Genarlow Wilson, Troy Davis, and the list goes on and on and on). I know that National Security will be a major focus though and I'm hoping this guy was anti-Iraq war cuz it seems BO is determined to fill his cabinet with people who held the direct OPPOSITE postition of him on that issue. WTF? *Shrug* Re Hillary: Ms Blake,tThis: cos she's still very popular and liked by millions and I think her appoinment would keep her supporters (in government n' media) happy" is NOT a reason to choose someone for Sec of State! What about QUALIFICATIONS? Should not the Sec of State agree with the president on the most important foreign policy issues? How the hell is someone who REFUSED to admit invading Iraq was a mistake lead the way in getting us the hell out of there? Obama is appearing to put politics before principle with this pick and some others and I'm hoping some right-thinking person pulls him to the side REAL quick and opens his eyes. He rose to the fore because of his ANTI-Iraq stance, filling his cabinet with people who didn't show that kind of foresight and voted for that crap, is a direct affront to his supporters. He was put there primarily to do two things: fix the economy and end the Iraq War. I'm thinking he needs a gentle reminder of this, seems he may have forgotten.
Name: sultry
Comment: Let Obama do his job because I am sure he know what he is doing . These choices are being picked very very carefully and with a fine tooth comb. Obama will do what is right and we hav eto realize that he still cannot fill the whole cabinet with blacks. He still nedd to balance it out.I will respect whatever choices that he makes with is new administration.
Name: FiveMore
Comment: Yes, Boot, you are being funny but America would never elect a dark skinned" President.And..if Barack was the same color as his African dad(or if he had two "Black" African parents), he would not be the President of the United States and that is a known fact that everyone would agree with(even if they will not admit to it). White folk are friendlier to lighter hued blacks, it's stupid but I have seen this ignorance with my on eyes and heck, I from an area in the country, where this mess festers on a daily basis.I hate the ignorant's ignornace.
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: we certainly have much work to do in the battle of light skinned blacks versus dark skinned and that's without layering on whites' racism towards light or dark blacks
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: The first IT-literate president ___ By Richard Waters in San Francisco for Financial Times ___ Published: November 19 2008 10:45 | Last updated: November 19 2008 10:45 ___ President Bush has been widely ridiculed in technology circles for talking about “the internets”. John McCain admitted he does not use e-mail and is only just learning how to get online. ___ And Barack Obama? Through his adept use of online tools such as social networking, he has this year rewritten the textbook on how political campaigns everywhere will be conducted. ___ The starkness of that contrast goes a long way to explaining the powerful sense of hope – even excitement – that has rippled through technology circles since Mr Obama’s historic election win. ___ The prospect of a technologically literate president who believes in the positive impact of digital information and networking, not just on political campaigns and the conduct of government but also on the economy and society at large, has induced a strong sense of expectation for his administration. ___ Beyond the specific technology promises made by the Obama camp – such as a commitment to spend $10bn a year for five years on new healthcare information systems – many of the broader policies of the new administration are widely expected to be tech-friendly. ___ Two areas, in particular, have drawn attention. One involves a commitment to wider access to a high-speed, “open” internet. Mr Obama has already pledged support for “net neutrality”, or the controversial requirement for broadband network companies to ensure that all traffic flowing across their networks is treated equally. This requirement has long had the backing of internet companies but is opposed by telecommunications and cable companies, who claim it would hamper future network investment. ___ link: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8d43b1be-b50c-11dd-b780-0000 779fd18c,dwp_uuid=4dce8136-4a24-11da-b8b1-0000779e2340 .html?nclick_check=1
Name: Reds
Comment: BTW, it’s really about time to get beyond the Hillary hating and paranoia. This woman has a history of public service and support for blacks. She grew up in a Republican household, but from college was motivated by the civil rights movement and as she put it, did not leave the Republican party but rather, the Republican party left her. Her husband’s administration was filled with blacks in top positions, unlike the two or so in the Bush administration. From his days as governor of Arkansas, Bill’s administration provided opportunities for blacks to serve in government. As president, he might not have had the first black AG, but Clinton had a black surgeon general (twice) and a black assistant AG. His administration was a welcome change for blacks from the racially insensitive Reagan and Bush administration. She and her husband had a job to do during the primaries and that was to criticize Obama in order to beat him. That’s how campaigns are run. So now we have a black man to represent us, it’s time to forget all the times when the Clintons had our backs?
Name: TGen
Comment: Reds, who ever said anything about "hatting" Hillary Clinton? Some think she is not adequately qualified to be Secretary of State (Bosnia fire anyone?) and think another would be better-suited for that position. How does that equal "hate?" And btw, in arguing for someone, you might want to think about using proof of what SHE did, NOT her hubby. Kay? Kay
Name: Reds
Comment: TGen: "Reds, who ever said anything about "hatting" Hillary Clinton?"...I think the tone toward her is still a bit negative, even with the primaries behind us. She may have made some mistakes during the primaries, but let's consider her body of work over all those years. She may not be adequately qualified for Sec of State, but let’s lend her some support if she is selected for something else.
Name: Reds
Comment: Is the Democrats compromise with Lieberman a sign of weakness or ruthlessness? Obama is well known to be cautious and calculating. So when he said he held "no grudges" against Lieberman, that can well be interpreted as a calculated maneuver to ensure support from the senate at all cost. But is Obama’s ruthless and calculating personality rubbing off on his Democratic colleagues. Lieberman was welcomed back by Senate Democrats by a 43 to 13 vote with only a slap on the wrist. With Lieberman, the Democrats are now poised to field a filibuster proof majority with two races to be decided.
Name: Reds
Comment: Republicans fed up with Limbaugh: Republican Chuck Hagel isn't holding back when it comes to criticizing members of his own party — including conservative talk radio hosts. "We are educated by the great entertainers like Rush Limbaugh," Hagel said Tuesday during a speech in Washington. "You know, I wish Rush Limbaugh and others like that would run for office," a sarcastic Hagel continued. "They have so much to contribute and so much leadership and they have an answer for everything. And they would be elected overwhelmingly. [The truth is] they try to rip everyone down and make fools of everybody but they don't have any answers."
Name: McNasty
Comment: Very wise choice! Eric Holder has a lot of the same values as Obama, his career is almost pristine, his integrity unimpeachable and if they hold Bill Clinton and that pardon against him during this vetting process I pray Obama overrides them.
Name: TGen
Comment: Reds: "She may not be adequately qualified for Sec of State, but let’s lend her some support if she is selected for something else." Fair enough, that's all most are saying. And I don't think the "tone" towards her is overly negative. You perceive it that way because you're a fan of hers for some reason (though you fail to specify her "body of work" that supposedly makes her so wonderful), but I digress on that. Re Lieberman: Some see the Dems allowing him to keep his chair "shrewd," but I call it stupid. If they were going to let him keep his chair on a committee, why in the WORLD would it be the Homeland Security one? The one in which he disagrees to the point of CAMPAIGING AGAINST them on? What they're doing has only short-term benefits, what they don't seem to realize though about the long-run is they're cutting off the hand that fed them. They have yet to solidify their "soul." A lot of the people who helped get them the majority the past two years have been doing so with expectation that they would FINALLY show some spine and do what their consituents put them in there to do--show some OPPOSITION to Bush policies. That vote was not about Lieberman, it was about the heart of their party. They don't seem to realize this, if they lose the base again, if they fail to get rid of their weak leadership (Reid, Pelosi, et al) they're looking at another Repub majority in 2010, period.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: WTF?....WTF?....Is Rak holding a brown bag beside the faces of all his appointees....And if, if, they pass the test, they get the Presidential hook-up?...What the he11 do I tell all those lil Black, Blacker, Blackest kids?...."You can be anything ya want but yo azz better be lighter than a paper bag if ya wanna be POTUS?....Is that what I gotta tell those chirren?...All those pictures of Black people crying and sh1t..."cause Rak got elected...Tears rolling down their Midnight Black faces..."cause they think, they think, they think, they can be POTUS...
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...I betcha didn't know this...Holder denounced his pastor too
Name: Stuckinthe70s
Comment: As far as Lieberman, Ned Lamont said it best on Rachel Maddow, "The voters of CT will take care of Lieberman" With a 66% disapproval rate, its very unlikely that the voters of CT will forget his dissing of their President. He will NOT be re-elected. Very doubtful. Pres. Elect Obama knows what he is doing. And Eric Holden as AG, great choice! Give me a break with the light vs dark argument. Tired of it! Its who is QUALIFIED!!
Name: TGen
Comment: Reds, unrelated, but I just had to share. Just when you think we're over the hump, ignant negroes decide to prove you wrong. (Read the comments too, this ish is crazy): http://www.nbcaugusta.com/news/elections/presheadlines /34587804.html "A former opponent of Barack Obama's has come back to haunt him over questions regarding Obama's citizenship. According to a press release from the American Independent Party, former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and other members of the party have filed suit in California Superior Court in Sacramento to stop the state from giving its electoral votes to President-elect Barack Obama until documentary evidence is provided to prove Obama is indeed a natural born citizen of the United States..."
Name: BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: as for selections, as long as they can help clean up the mess and get the job that waits done, I couldn't care if they were green. I know the pardon for Denise Rich's Husband came at great gains. The only one's happy about that live in the Hamptons! however, sorry to say, but I hope it's safe to say.... no type of yard detail for you Jessie!
Name: BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: ps... if your Son gets some type of appointment, please don't think that's an opportunity to just invite yourself to the House whenever you want to!
Name: bigchassie
Comment: TGEN>anything to keep his name in the news. we'll just put him in the OJ/Kwame/Tavis catagory: NULL AND VOID!!!
Name: DCGG
Comment: Excellent choice...
Name: smurfy
Comment: sorry the skin color light vs black skin has reared its ugly head - but there is validity to it even in 2008....also note this....not only is it doubtful a dark skinned black ever be elected president...when they say they want an "Hispanic"....it will never be a Afro-Hispanic....only white Hispanics fits that bill...yes, white supremacy is alive and well
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: SAY IT,B00T!!! I am wondering if I will even be considered for a position with the administration, NOT as a cabinet member, of course. I am about the same complexion as Michelle. The application was e-mailed to me yesterday, but I haven't looked at it yet. Like it or not, admit it or not, there IS a light-versus-dark thing running rampant all over this society, EVEN AMONG WHITES ... "blondes have more fun" than brunettes, etc. It is an ILLNESS for which there is no cure. I was the only customer looking into a display of seafood in the supermarket, waiting for the employee to finish washing his hands. A white woman came up and stood next to me after a minute or so. When the MIDNIGHT BLACK employee finished washing his hands and came over to wait on us, instead of him saying, "Okay, who's next?" he looked at the white woman and said, "May I help you?" You are RIGHT, B00T, no man (or woman) darker than a paper bag will EVER be elected POTUS of this country, so the MIDNIGHT BLACKS can just dry up their damn tears.
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: BTW, anybody else out there looking for a job, the website is www.change.gov.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: TGEN..when you're on you're on..lol! What you are witnessing from Hillary supporters is the same "she deserves it" spin they did during the primary. Hillary "deserved" to President becuz she her husband was the POTUS and friendly to blacks. Hillary deserved to be VP bcz of her 18million supporters. Deserved to speak at the convention. Deserved to have her husband speak. Now she "deserves" to be SOS. As I said on y'day I don't have an issue w/her being HHS or even as SC Justice (don't even like that idea) before I would like her to be SOS. She "deserves" what every other contender deserves..to do her job. And Yes, if Obama continues on this path, he better have some real shyt in store for his base...those who were w/him BEFORE Iowa..the majority of whom were anti-Clinton. REDS..I'm surprised that you are factually wrong. Lil Bush has had more blacks in "top" cabinet positions than did Clinton. Hill and Bill "chose" to do w/they did...they didn't have to go after Obama in the way in which they did. Funny, you sound like one of the many blacks during the primary who said that we "owe" it to the Clintons..when only one was ever in a position of power. I say fk Bill. Mr. Charlie gave the slaves plenty of liqour during the holiday seasons but kept 'em working 14hr days during the summers.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: I wonder if many of these same people feel as if we "owe" it to Jackson and Sharpton because of all they've done for us. I doubt it 100%
Name: CrazzeeGyrl
Comment: I don't think Hillary will make it simply because of her husband's work.
Name: BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: @musbdherbs... I know both Men have their wrongs, But Jessie is just a hot mess, whatever he did for the common good was not done with a clear conscience. There was always some type of motive in which he was always in it for self. As for Sharpton, not many people care about him. But I can truly say, if he has your back... he has your back. Not all of his decisions have been correct, however, whatever he is involved in, he makes sure he goes the whole nine... Jail and whatever comes with it. Jessie went to jail for marching...once? I just don't see any true to Jessie Jackson, ever since Martin's Murder, and him on TV with the bloody shirt that he wore for 4 days!
Name: bigchassie
Comment: i'm cold. want grits.
Name: FiveMore
Comment: Yeah, Mr. Charlie kept you sloppy drunk and acting a fool for Christmas time, didn't he? And you bet' not miss the morning bell, or you would get your behind beat ragged without hesistation!Yeah, thanx Mr.Chollie!
Name: ss69054
Comment: We don't owe the Clintons nada....hell tthey worked for us not we worked for them...good pick with Eric Holder...I wonder if colon Powell will be appointed to something...just curious if we had a choice between Hillary and Condi, which one would you choose??
Name: bigchassie
Comment: BLKMANHATTAN>What?? was that really for real that he wore that shirt for four days? i heard he smeared Martin's blood on his shirt. i don't know how true that really was.
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: if art is imitating life, it would be sad and scary to find out that Bclinton is behaving like the super bad guy in the current James Bond movie . . . . . the clinton credit for "all they have done" for blacks is what they appear to have done, not what they have actually done
Name: bigchassie
Comment: SS>Wasn't there talk about Condi wanting to be Comissioner of a football team or something like that?
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: BKLYN..there are very people alive who do things selflessly. I don't know about everything JJ has done but I've yet to see ne1 point to what he has done for "himself" that was to the detriment of blacks UNLIKE the clinton's campaign. I didn't know much about the bloody shirt until jailed activist Najee Ali decided to post his stories about JJ on the board couple of months ago.
Name: TGen
Comment: Musb: "Mr. Charlie gave the slaves plenty of liqour during the holiday seasons but kept 'em working 14hr days during the summers." Dang! lol Touche Ss69054, Hillary or Condi? NEITHER. No Colin Powell either. All of them were wrong as hell on Iraq and don't deserve power to be wrong as hell again. Bigchssie, it IS cold down here! Btw, "Massa" Bill Clinton (lol) will be at Clark today at 4 pm. Just an FYI...
Name: bigchassie
Comment: TGEN>Yeah, they are supposed to be doing a march today for Jim martin. you voting?
Name: TGen
Comment: Bigchassie, I am going to vote, but not today, will not have time with work and class later. But best believe, I will be voting and I've tried to give runoff info to everyone I know, lol, and they BETTER use it! :)
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: >Chas...Don't let Rak cook yo grits...He'd put too much dayum butter on them...Too much butter...He'd probably pick out all the lil black and dark brown specks too....Yeah, real grits may be white but they all got some lil black and brown specks in 'em...Take a look, take a close look...The next time you eat some dayum grits, look closely....There's some black and brown specks in those muthafuccers...I know Rak picks 'em out
Name: bigchassie
Comment: but BOOT>Rak may cook some good grits. he may put a little "cheese" in them and you know ain't nothing like having a little "cheese" in the grits! lol!
Name: TGen
Comment: Boot: "The next time you eat some dayum grits, look closely....There's some black and brown specks in those muthafuccers...I know Rak picks 'em out" LOL! There is something wrong with you, truly.
Name: BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: @musbdherbs....to bottom line it.. Both the Clinton's and Jessie are very shady People.. Najee Ali isn't the only one who talk about Jessie.. Out of the whole bunch which include Ralph Albernathy, (please excuse the spelling)there were stories of Homosexually and a lot of Mistrust! I don't know how Jessie took to heart about the Obama Speech, but to say the Man's nuts should be removed was the last straw! As for the Clintons, they made sure that ugly, and I do mean ugly Daughter of their enterprised on the American Public. Now she's making over $500,000 a year in a job that was hand picked for her within her Mother's establishment! Walking around Harlem like the world owes her something! Barack did her Mum a favor by paying off her over 7 million dollar debt from Campaigning against him hopefully in good faith, with hope that she would sway her voter's his way! As for sweet oh sweet Big Nosed Bill... He's still running around hopping on anything that moves! If he had went after the Terrorist back when they bombed the WTC the first time, My Son wouldn't be in Iraq, and I wouldn't have lost 2 Dear Friends in Afghanistan!
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: C'mon Rak appoint a Djimon Hounsou looking cat to sumthing....Put a dayum Hounsou on that cabinet....Put a dayum Housou on the fuccing cabinet man...Enuff with the Rick Foxx looking muthafuccers...Give us a Hounsou...We want a dayum Housou...
Name: bigchassie
Comment: TGEN>chile, i know that's right. cause this run off is cruical. cause if Martin gets in there the Dems will have the Majority of the Senate which means any bill Obama sends through will pass through with flying colors. and we won't have to worry about no fillibuster which we don't want.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Did I just hear Rak say..."No to Hounsou"...That's fucc'd up Rak...
Name: bigchassie
Comment: BOOT>and i guess Hill Harper is out of the question, huh? oh well, sorry Hill but your boy says you too light. you must go and bake in the sun a little bit longer! lol!
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: B00T, the Presidential seal will probably read "If You're Light, You're AIIIIIIIIIGHT!"
Name: ss69054
Comment: Ooh-wee I can see Negroes on that man heels for every little move he makes to question hthe crab in the barrel syndrome still is there! Bad enough the whiteys on yhe brothas neck abput everything but my people make it worst!!! Whew! Glad I'm not the POTUS because y'all would get the finger every time!!!
Name: JamerDelta
Comment: I think its really funny when people try to second guess Pres. O...I think he's proven over the past 22 months that he KNOWS what he's doing. When some where clamoring for him to play dirty with McCaint and called him weak, a wuss etc. He kept his cool, played it his way and came out much more respected for it. So, kudos to our new POTUS for doing what he thinks best and I'll ride with him on his choices because I know he thinks it through. Great job on Eric Holder and although Hill is not my favorite or would be my first choice, he knows what he's doing and if he wants her out of the Senate where she can become a thorn in his side then I'll ride along and so be it...
Name: TGen
Comment: JamerDelta, you have selective memory. When people, his supporters (his BANKROLL) were calling for him to be more aggressive, the campaign started to release harder hitting ads, as did the 527's (McCain can't use a computer, McCain-Bush, McCain medical records, McCain-Bush economics, etc.) There is no doubt this contributed to his winning. And though he is the President-Elect, he is NOT above reproach, he is not God, he does not know everything, he is capable of making a mistake. In a democratic country, it's the people's job to call out the leaders if they see fit. This notion that he is above criticism is really, really quite tired, I must say.
Name: naturalsista
Comment: Hotep to all! Ya'll got me laughing so much my co-worker keeps asking what's so funny. I had to come out of lurker mode to comment on this. First Pres. Barack Obama and now Eric Holder. All these good looking black men in D.C. going to make me submit an application for a job in Pres. Obama's administration.
Name: JamerDelta
Comment: uhm, can you read, TGEN? Where in my post did you see the words God, above reproach, above criticism etc. etc. etc. I was simply stating that WE don't know why he's doing what he's doing and I trust his judgement in doing so. Hello? this is not about policy etc. I reserve the right to question as I see fit and here is not where I see fit--just because I have another opinion doesn't mean that you have to start a fight as usual...damn!
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: First of all, y'all are killing me with this dark/light sh*t. If Obama was color struck like y'all say he wouldn't have even looked at Michelle. You can typically see how color struck a person is by who he/she dates/marries. Aside from that, the only people I ever hear complaining about color are dark-skinned people and they are the same people who treat people lighter than them like sh*t because they are jealous of some perceived favor. News flash, folks. Obama was the one they were calling a d*mned monkey a couple months ago - yes, light-skinned Obama. So y'all need to quit it. A member of the KKK isn't going to give a light person a pass. "You over there. Yeah, you. Light boy. You can go home. We're gonna hang up this dark n*gger here! You go'on home! We only want this one." Uh, no. It didn't happen like that. Anybody racist enough to be against black people is against all of US. Yes, there are some snotty-azzed light-skinned people who hold their heads up so high they scrape the ceiling that make things bad for other light people but they are the exception not the rule. If dark-skinned black people would realize their beauty, this would stop. I think dark-skinned black men are delicious. And I have dark-skinned female friends who have the most beautiful, buttery complexions anybody would be jealous of (like me). Me - I don't date light men because they just don't move me. 1/2 my family is dark-skinned and they are ALL beautiful/handsome - all of them. So I don't get this mess. I firmly believe that if Obama is presented with a dark-skinned person as qualified as Holder, that man/woman will get a post. The funny thing is this - many times here in the DC area, I see light/dark people marrying. It's almost like the light half wants browner children and the darker one wants lighter children - like both want a balance of a brown child. There is a lot of that here in DC if you notice. I typically don't see dark/dark or light/light couples. People need to get over this.
Name: TGen
Comment: JamerDelta, I wasn't "starting a fight," I was pushing back on your tone, which conveyed a "you shouldn't question him, he's the all-knowing, he was right about everything, etc." mindset. And just because YOU don't "see fit" to question a decision he's made, does NOT mean that those who DO "see fit" are somehow "wrong" or whatever. People who offer a different opinion about him than you do, should not be demeaned, esp if the opinion is offered without malice and in good conscience. I didn't realize what Tavis Smiley was saying before, still think he was out of line, but I have to admit I'm seeing it now. It's sad when constructive dissent is ridiculed--like you did in your post--whether you admit as much or not.
Name: oldsoul
Comment: BOOTANE>LMBMFAO!!!
Name: ss69054
Comment: queeniebunz: I feel y'all and I'm a chocolate sista...people need to grow up and get a effin life!!!
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: As for Holder and the whole pardon thing, he'll get by that with no problem because he was against the pardon and spoke out about it back then. He'll fly through - no problem. Regarding MLK/Jesse - I've heard Jesse set MLK up from a source IN that circle. When they shut down Memphis after the %*$assination, Jesse was the only person who got out of the city - the only one. Why was that? There is a book in the works about the %*$assination and some other stuff that's gonna bust h*ll wide open if it sees the light of day. This book has been in the works for decades but death threats against the author's family kept it under wraps.
Name: smurfy
Comment: now, now children! and by the way can't help but notice yall aint too busy on your jobs with the amt of posts you create...especially you TGEN, you must have the easiest, mellowist job in the world.!!!
Name: barnone
Comment: TGEN> excellent points. cosign 2 the max
Name: jess
Comment: It's 2008, we've just elected the first African American president of this country...by a landslide BTW...and some of us continue to be divisive by hanging on to this old, tired-azzed, light-skinned vs. dark skinned bullshyte??? Jesus! Are we ever gonna get right?
Name: blackdragon
Comment: Thank you, queeniebunz. It doesn't matter how light-skinned you are. White racists are not going to accept you. Also, this light-skinned vs. dark-skinned crap is ridiculous. To the people who keep perpetuating this nonsense, grow up.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Tgen - regarding Pelosi - the woman is a bad b*tch. She ain't goin nowhere. She's shrewd and has been in Congress long enough to know what happened in '94 and in '06. She knows what they have to do to stay on top. She was part of the machine behind Obama. She will be Speaker for awhile - believe that. The Dems have finally wised up and learned from the Repubs how to keep themselves on top. I've said for years that the Dems worry about getting things done while the Repubs worry about staying in office. Well, now the Dems have finally wised up and know how to do both. That's why the Repub party imploded. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes the Repubs to rebuild themselves from the destruction of the political "forest fire" GW Bush started that spread across the country. Only the South was spared from it.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Jamer..love you like a 'Que but no this one TGEN is right. You did sounds as if you are saying that because we support Obama, he shouldn't be questioned. Maybe if you hadn't said, "it's funny when people try to second guess." IMO, all politicians, regardless of how well-liked they are should be 2nd and 3rd guessed on the decision they make..especially those which affect those who voted for him. I questioned his Father's Day speech. I questioned him wanting to retain Liberman. I question him considering Hillary Clinton as a serious SOS contender just as I questioned her being VP. If Biden was the last one standing alongside Obama and behaved in the dishonorable way Clinton did, and Obama decided to name him SOS..I would be pizzed off still at Biden BUT I would know that Biden has the documented qualification to be the top diplomat in the world. That person is not Hillary. TGEN...I actually "got" Tavis then...his timing was just off.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >smurfy - it's called multi-tasking. I can do this in between my job duties. Now if I were John McCain, I'd have to suspend my work duties to post on EUR but since I'm not, I can do both. ;)
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: some folks like bragging through complaints - ain't no drama to be had by just letting go and working on getting it right . . . . . Name: jess Comment: Are we ever gonna get right?
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: TGEN...uhm...well I take your comment about light vs. dark a different way. You said that the only people hung up on that stuff are darker of us. White people say that the only people still hung up on racism are blacks. Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle. Blacks w/out doubt have well documented color complexes..it's almost impossible not to in a society that recognizes color.
Name: barnone
Comment: HERBS> i don't think it was so much his timing but moreso his presentation. as well as his partisanship. i just don't recall him ever having much 2 say about either of the clinton's and this whole myth about them helping black folks is just that....a myth.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >musb - I agree that I do not want to see Hillary as SoS. She is not qualified for the position. I said yesterday that her "getting shot at in Bosnia" sh*t disqualified her alone. She doesn't have the personality for it either. She's a personable as a piece of toast and that job requires interaction around the world. She just doesn't have it. I hope the vetting process eliminates her. Perhaps that's what Obama is doing - saying to her, "I'd love to have you but you and your hubby failed the litmus test. Sorry." That way, he'll get to keep Hillary supporters in 2012 but he won't have to work with her. As for the Father's Day speech, well, I have mixed feelings about it and the whole Cosby thing. I think he said what needed saying. I agree that there are far too many dads not getting done what needs doing. I tend to think we need to keep our business to ourselves as black people but that's impossible now - absolutely impossible. With youtube/CNN/MSNBC/etc. there are no secrets. There is no private talk that blacks can have amongst ourselves. That said, perhaps he could've kept it positive but he chose not to. As I said, I'm on the fence about it still. Lieberman - that is a difficult decision. He's like a work situation we have here at my office. There is a woman everyone wants gone but she can close this place down if they try to fire her and she does her work but she's done some shady things. If they try to fire her, she'll make it ugly so they keep her but watch everything she does like a hawk. That's the way I see it with Lieberman. He has some power they need. If they try to remove him, he'll throw his weight around. The risk of that is greater than keeping him on so they keep him reluctantly/grudgingly. It's a hard thing to deal with.
Name: javone77
Comment: boot: you are off the charts today LOL HEY QUEENIE!
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: barnone..yeah gud point. I didn't necessarily see him as being partisan...maybe just not fair or consistent in his criticism of what he/we should expect from a potential POTUS. Queenie..yeah ur right..and knowing that reality..people like Obama need to know that there is a time and place for everything. But hey...JJ thought he was keeping some'n to himself until he realized the Mike was on..lol Re: Lieberman..I don't believe he's warranted doing nething to be kicked out of the democratic caucus but he should have been stripped of his chairmanship. There should be a penalty imposed for party disloyalty..obviously the democrats thought politics was more important. I hope this doesn't give others a reason to be disloyal and have them expect the same kid glove treatment. What incentive is there to do otherwise? If Lieberman decided to bytch out over being stripped from his post...then that's a liberman thing and shouldn't be a democrat or those who support the party thing.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >musb - with the whole color line thing, I'll never say that light-skinned blacks don't contribute to the problem. My evil-azzed ugly-on-the-inside sister-in-law and her crazy-azzed family are all light and they are proud of their lightness and will brag in a minute about that they have white and Indian in them. They also make fun of dark-skinned blacks and "nappy hair" etc. They make me sick. But they are the exception and not the rule. I can't tell you how many times I've been told that people thought I'd be a stuck up b*tch because of the way I look. And, I can't tell you how many conversations I've had with light women who've had the same experience of being prejudged by other people based on them being "light-skinned w/long hair". It's ridiculous. Yeah, there are some that are like my sister-in-law but there are more like me who are just cool and don't trip off it. Here's something to think about for people. If you go through life being bitter about your skin color and ugly to people, perhaps you aren't getting the job or being treated well because of your nasty/ugly attitude and not the shade of brown you are. I have a girlfriend who is absolutely beautiful and she's one of the sweetest people I've ever met and she's dark. I have never ever ever heard her complain about her skin color or complain about being treated differently. She is treated well because her goodness shines through and makes her color irrelevant to everyone. Maybe that's something people need to explore. My evil-azzed light-skinned sister-in-law is nasty to people. I would bet a mortgage payment that she doesn't get treated better by whites. Her evil shines through and God don't like ugly and neither do most people. She moves around in the military because she's so nasty and can't get along with people so she just up and transfers. If it were true about her being light getting her favored, she wouldn't move so much, in my opinion.
Name: barnone
Comment: Liberman??? please, he needs 2 b shown the door like yesterday's trash. talk about a judas moment. first of all he has clearly shown whatever the costs, i'm going 2 do me. what power does he have that must b reckoned w/ like that? i mean he clearly wasn't effective n preventing obama from winning the presidency. i personally think he's overrated.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ....Look, There was a plan with Rak choosing Michelle...It was all part of Rak's master plan to be the dayum man...Rak knew he couldn't blow up the political spot with a lighter than light chick...He had to go dark and lovely...He persued Michelle...He11, dude was driving 'round in a car with no floor...When he went into his Change gon come rap...Michelle was his...With that piece in place Rak was free to take on the political world...He knew he wouldn't get a lot of Black votes with a Halle Berryesquse wife...Rak's a master chess player...Until Rak names a Hounsou looking cat Imma stand by my dayum post....He11 I voted for the man and I can't get a dayum job on his cabinet...I want a Hounsou looking cat but I'd settle for a India Arie...C'mon Rak put some dark meat on that dayum plate....Some dark meat with some brown gravy poured over it...
Name: McNasty
Comment: Queenie it has nothing to do with the color of any potential children. I am chocolate and my husband is toasted almond - his first wife was the same color as he is. I asked him what made him decide to try chocolate he let me know that he had always been attracted to darker skinned women. Its an attraction and I for the life of me wish folks would stop trying to blame one side or the other cause both have done their damage to the other with that color jazz.
Name: barnone
Comment: queenie> re: color, i feel ya, but there is some truth 2 the "color line". i have 4 sons. 2 r dark like my husband and the other 2 r light. people r always saying how beauuuuutiful the light ones r and the funny thing about it they all look alike except 4 1 who actually looks like me, but most people say he favors my husband. he so does not. he only has his complexion. all in all, the color issue is a divise tool that was implemented by our former captors and we as a people need 2 reclaim our minds and leave all that nonsense with them.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Yo, lets not even talk about the inagural gala...With the exception of Oprah...all you gonna see is a sea of cream in the audience...A sea of cream....Rak probably secretly hung 'round those boule' muthafuccers...
Name: barnone
Comment: i don't know BOOT, i think he still woulda got some love if his wife was halle berryesque (sp) however u put it. cuz u know even though she's mixed she's not what black folks call "high yella". u know, like dorothy dandridge or lena horne or even vanessa williams. when she first came out on the scene i didn't think she was mixed at all.
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: Did Obama choose his Economic person yet? That's what I'm waiting to hear.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ....Rak's favorite musician is Bruce Springsteen...Now, now, he implied that it was Stevie Wonder...Stevie's the safe answer 'cause he'll get you some votes...For Happy Birthday to ya, For once in my life, Isn't she lovely, You are the sunshine of my life...Yo, Black folks will vote for your azz if you like Steveland...He also mentioned Earth Wind and Fire to squeeze out a few more Black votes...He knew Springsteen would win some White voters over..."Hey dude, Obama likes Springsteen, fuccing A"...Now, Imma fan of Springsteens too...Dayum, I've gotten way off topic here...
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >McNasty - what I wrote was that "it seems like" that's what it's about. I didn't write that's what it was. I am not saying that people are plotting out the color of their children. I'm saying that it almost LOOKS that way. Your husband saying that doesn't surprise me. I've heard the same from other light men. I met a guy who was chasing after my dark-skinned friend. He looked at me and I looked at him and we basically gelled like brother and sister cuz I was too light for him and he was too light for me. LOL...And I'm not "blaming" anyone for anything. I'm just giving you my experience / observations. If you don't agree, that's cool. >barnone - my question for you is - what color/shade were the people telling you your lil light ones were cute? Just curious.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...You're right barnone, Vanessa Williams type...Rak woulda lost some of the Black vote if he stepped up with her on his arm...
Name: ss69054
Comment: sorry but Dorothy Dandridge is not high yella!!! She is cocoa brown. Doesn't matter if it was a Halle or Michelle, bottom line is he married who he loved and looking at her color tone. How would he known to be President 17 or 18 years ago??? Advancement??? That is some b/s!!! We are our own worst critic and we wonder why many of us all always stuck in a pile of sheet and can't get no where because of this retardation mentality some of y'all have. Giving me a damn headache today. My people, my people!!!
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: Is it me or is the media being extra concern about who Obama has in his Cabinet. I've been around to see a few President-Elect's but I never noticed all of the attention that's being payed towards Obama's choices. Hell, I couldn't even name enough people in Bush's Cabinet to count on one hand. Now everytime Pres-elect Obama makes a choice you have political analysts analyzing shyt. I don't give a hoot if Mickey Mouse is the Head of State as long as he knows what the heck he's doing.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: Yeah Boot, you're off topic LOL. But I like Springsteen too. Dude is cool. Bono and Dave Matthews and Sting are all mad cool, too. Ain't nothin wrong w/being diverse in your music taste. As for the gala - what you're gonna see is a sea of "green" because everyone there will probably have seriously deep pockets. The people there w/o deep pockets will probably be carrying around trays of champagne.
Name: adifferentpath
Comment: BOOT, youse a fool....interesting points tho.....hmmm....
Name: olskool4life
Comment: Ya'll crackin' me up !!
Name: Stephanie
Comment: Well, if HRC is chosen as secretary of state, don't be surprised if Air Force One carrying Obama and Biden slams into a mountain and the coyotes eat the remains and HRC becomes POTUS. After how she dogged him during the campaign, I wouldn't give her azz eye water to cry with...She showed America, she'll stop at nothing to win! Major turn off...but I doubt she will take it because they don't want Bill's dirty laundry aired...
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Raks my man...I'm just having a lil fun today...But if Rak don't name a Black skinded muthfuccer soon...Imma have to take his picture off my dayum wall...I got it between the pictures of Martin Luther King, The Kennedy's and that pix of Malcolm peeking out the window with the rifle in his hand....
Name: naturalsista
Comment: Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader used a racial epithet to insult Barack Obama in a message posted Wednesday, describing the president-elect in demeaning terms that imply he does the bidding of whites. The message appeared chiefly aimed at persuading Muslims and Arabs that Obama does not represent a change in U.S. policies. Ayman al-Zawahri said in the message, which appeared on militant Web sites, that Obama is "the direct opposite of honorable black Americans" like Malcolm X, the 1960s African-American rights leader. In al-Qaida's first response to Obama's victory, al-Zawahri also called the president-elect _ along with secretaries of state Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice _ "house negroes." Speaking in Arabic, al-Zawahri uses the term "abeed al-beit," which literally translates as "house slaves." But al-Qaida supplied English subtitles of his speech that included the translation as "house negroes." The message also includes old footage of speeches by Malcolm X in which he explains the term, saying black slaves who worked in their white masters' house were more servile than those who worked in the fields. Malcolm X used the term to criticize black leaders he accused of not standing up to whites. In Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the latest message was just "more despicable comments from a terrorist." The 11-minute 23-second video features the audio message by al-Zawahri, who appears only in a still image, along with other images, including one of Obama wearing a Jewish skullcap as he meets with Jewish leaders. In his speech, al-Zawahri refers to a Nov. 5 U.S. airstrike attack in Afghanistan, meaning the video was made after that date. Al-Zawahri said Obama's election has not changed American policies he said are aimed at oppressing Muslims and others. "America has put on a new face, but its heart full of hate, mind drowning in greed, and spirit which spreads evil, murder, repression and despotism continue to be the same as always," the deputy of al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden said. He said Obama's plan to shift troops to Afghanistan is doomed to failure, because Afghans will resist. "Be aware that the dogs of Afghanistan have found the flesh of your soldiers to be delicious, so send thousands after thousands to them," he said. Al-Zawahri did not threaten specific attacks, but warned Obama that he was "facing a Jihadi (holy war) awakening and renaissance which is shaking the pillars of the entire Islamic world; and this is the fact which you and your government and country refuse to recognize and pretend not to see." He said Obama's victory showed Americans acknowledged that President George W. Bush's policies were a failure and that the result was an "admission of defeat in Iraq." But Obama's professions of support for Israel during the election campaign "confirmed to the Ummah (Islamic world) that you have chosen a stance of hostility to Islam and Muslims," al-Zawahri said.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: C'mom Southern, you know you don't want Rak naming Mickey Mouse Head of State....Wait a minute, Mickey Mouse is Black...very black...Blacker than Housou...OK....
Name: McNasty
Comment: Southernbelle its been that way since he accepted the nomination. More attention than a little bit, being held to a different code of conduct and standard. They think they can't figure him out but if they're thinking weren't so crooked what Obama is doing is as plain as writing on a wall.
Name: McNasty
Comment: Queenie I got that from your post I was just speaking as one of the dark skinneds married to a lighter skinned person and his reasoning. I did mean though that I am tired of the back and forth and the difference still being made but I can only take care of me and mine in that regard. Your story, being bypas.sed - I've got one of those too and I'm just glad I wasn't still in my person shaping 20s cause light skinned dude was none to kind (of course I still had the sharp tongue and since he was beyond ugly you know I tore him a new one!lmao).
Name: DCGG
Comment: Can someone answer me this...Obama's grandmother died a few weeks back right...I've heard nothing of a funeral or anything...just wondering is all...
Name: MsFresno
Comment: i cant believe my people are we really talking about light skin dark skin.
Name: ss69054
Comment: DCGG: they had a memorial service last week and a private funeral too. The first family was not there but his sister was.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >naturalsista - well you can't think this is a surprise. Obama got on TV and said point blank that he's gonna take them out. If I were one of the terrorists he said he was gonna kill, I'd be calling him names, too. LOL. It makes no sense to think that just because he's black Obama is going to befriend the terrorists or that terrorists are gonna all of a sudden join hands and sing "Kumbaya". I think Obama will be a different and more likedand effective president / representative of the US and talk to people Bush wouldn't but he's not a punk, either. He said what needed saying and as a result the terrorists are mad. Whateva. He's still gonna take y'alls azzes out! LOL... If terrorists did like him, then I'd be worried...
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: Just wait for him to select a dog. It's gonna be breaking news at all MSM news outlets. Some mofo's gonna be mad he didn't select a poodle. The Mexicans gonna want him to select a Chiuaha. Black folks gonna want a Doberman. Yt folks gonna want a Collie (Lassie)and etc. This has got to be the most scrutinized Pres-elect ever.
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: The "light/dark thing" might be considered "nonsense" by some, but it does exist, and it's not going way. Thanks for bringing it up, B00T. It's not a figment of the imagination. Don't hold your breath waiting for a BLUE-BLACK POTUS.
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: Woa, ss69054 Obama's family didn't attend the funeral services?!?! Dang that's messed up.
Name: naturalsista
Comment: queenie - not surprised at all. just posting and keeping it moving.
Name: DCGG
Comment: Thanks ss69054...now how you gonna make a big whoopdy doo over granny thoughout the damn campaign, crying and shyt and then not attend the services...I don't know how I feel about that...LMAO @ Southernbelle, you ain't never lied cause I read the damn Peruvian people were trying to give him one of them ugly azz hairless dogs from Peru LMAO
Name: naturalsista
Comment: November 15, 2008 - HONOLULU — The late grandmother of President-elect Barack Obama was eulogized Friday as a strong, vibrant woman who was dedicated to her profession and her family. About 150 friends, former co-workers and others gathered to pay their respects to Madelyn Dunham at a 45-minute ceremony at the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific. Dunham died Nov. 2 at the age of 86, two days before Obama won the presidency. She and her late husband, Stanley, raised him from 1971 until he graduated high school and left Hawaii in 1979. Neither Obama nor his sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, attended. A private family ceremony is likely to be held sometime next month when Obama is expected to visit the islands. "It broke his heart not to be here," said Emme Tomimbang, a friend of Obama's and the service's master of ceremonies. "Even though Barack and Maya couldn't be here physically, they were here in spirit. In fact, they both helped put this together." In a letter that was read at the service, Obama and Soetoro-Ng said their maternal grandmother wanted no tears shed after her passing. "Tutu taught us to be mindful and moderate, to be patient when calm was warranted and to act when action was necessary," the two wrote, using the Hawaiian word for grandmother. "She liked playing bridge, a good mystery novel, jigsaw puzzles and an annual cruise. She was fiercely loyal and protective of those whom she loved, and had little patience for foolishness." By the end of the ceremony, a large spread of flowers adorned the front of the lectern, including an arrangement from Dunham's 1940 high school class in Kansas. A framed picture of Dunham was nearby, encircled with a lei made of maile leaves and pikake buds. Overlooking the ceremony was the stone relief sculpture of Lady Columbia, symbolic of grieving motherhood. Dunham was cremated but will not be interred at the cemetery, where her husband's ashes are kept, said Tomimbang. She did not know what the family plans for Dunham's ashes. Obama scattered the ashes of his mother, Stanley Ann, who died in 1995, from an Oahu shoreline.
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: During slavery, the lighter slaves worked in the house, while the dark slaves worked outside in the broiling hot sun.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: I betcha that dogs gonna be tan or white...I know it won't be a black lab or schauzer...
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: B00T (LMAO, but you are SOOOOO RIGHT).
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Okay I'm a lil surprised here, Boot was joking when he brought up the 'no dark skin folks in Obama's cabinet' and some of u have just run with it, even getting all upset. His original post followed mine where I mentioned black folks were complaining Barack had not appointed any black people. Look its a joke, Boot said he was having fun guys c'mon now.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: southern...now you got some damn nerve sista. You know good and got damn well that black folk want Obama to have a pit..lol
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: Nah ... I voted for Barack Obama, gladly, but I'm going to tell it like it really IS.
Name: javone77
Comment: oh no. Not a pit! this is barack obama...not Micheal Vick. lol my goodness. I can't see michelle being ok with that. I see a chihuaha in their future.
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: Ok ... a tan or white chihuahua then.
Name: FiveMore
Comment: o/t Coolio has the cutest little pit bull puppy, has anyone seen him interact with Coolio and his family?I think his name is Simba and Simba is so very friendly and playful.IMO, the Obama's need to leave that dog from Agentina alone because he looks frightening and oh, so scary!
Name: TGen
Comment: lol, Smurfy, why single me out? Yeah, I do have my days when I let stuff like this get the best of me, lol, but not to the detriment of my job. As Queenie, says, it's called multi-tasking! lol As long as you're effective, why not splurge a little in cyberspace (as long as the gubment allows it?) lol Queenie, I still say Pelosi needs to go. I don't agree she's a "bad bytch." I keep hearing how mighty and powerful she is from the Repubs who say people should fear her, but I find her to be inarticulate and a pizz-poor excuse for a leader, personally. Bout the only good thing I can say about her is she dresses nice, lol. Musb, I think you got me mixed up with someone else. I didn't comment at all on the light vs. dark thing. Frankly, I find the issue tired and boring. I think it's pretty much agreed that both Blacks and Whites have issues with darker skin, and it's VERY, VERY unlikely that a dark skinned person will ever be U.S. Prez. Sorry for the dark-skinned people out there (excluding that loon Alan Keyes of course, lol). Southernbelle, no, it's not just you. The media IS extra concerned with everything BO does, he will endure more scrutiny than ever before. It's unfair, but I don't think it should surprise anyone. Welcome to America. *Sigh*
Name: javone77
Comment: Five: they will most likely be getting a short haired dog because I believe Malia has allergies.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: They should get a doberman! Short-haired and smart and protective but not vicious. I grew up with them so I know. If they aren't trained to be vicious, they aren't anything but overgrown lap dogs. Yup! A doberman! LOL
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Grace - uh, uh, er, ah. Last I checked slavery ended officially in 1865 (unless you're from Texas) and as such, there ain't no such thing as a house/field negro no mo. Let it go. As long as you perpetuate it, it will continue. Let it go. And I disagree about a dark-skinned black man being president. Though I can't stand the man, Clarence Thomas is in the Supreme Court and I would bet that people said the same thing in reference to Thurgood Marshall but they were wrong. There are too many examples of dark-skinned black man in power in Congress/etc. for that to be true. We had Al Wynn here for years in the Senate. We had Mayor Barry in DC running things for decades (despite his womanizing/crack habit) and we've had Norton in Congress from DC for as long as I can remember. There's that crazy chick from Atlanta that ran for Pres this year, Waters from Cali, etc. There are too many people in power previously and presently that contradict this whole notion of light/bright is right.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: Oops! I meant Al Wynn in Congress. Big oops...
Name: FiveMore
Comment: Okay,Javonne77!Sasha and Malia are cuties and I pray Michelle shields those girl(as best as she can) from the snide/evil remarks that will be thrown their way while the President (their dad)is serving his country. As a matter of fact, the people in the media were not all that kind (very mean and disrespectful)) to Chelsea Clinton.Good luck girls with the new First dog!lol
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_the_ United_States_Congress - check this out and see what our black leaders in Congress look like now and in the past...
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: Queenie, Queenie, Queenie - uh, uh- er, ah ... let's just agree to DISagree, shall we? I'm not going to start throwing cliches out there about HIStory, and I'm not going to "let it go." As TGen said earlier, just because YOU don't see things in a certain way, it "does NOT mean that those who DO" are "somehow 'wrong' or whatever."
Name: bigchassie
Comment: DCGG>yeah, i've been wondering the same thing. it's like they kept that on low taps. probally for the privacy of the family. understandable.
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: Aside from Anita Hill and her supporters, who REALLY, REALLY gave a rat's azz about Clarence Thomas sitting on the Supreme Court?? (And I mean to the point of sending death threats.)
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: naw, a rottweiler - Name: musbdherbs Comment: You know good and got damn well that black folk want Obama to have a pit..lol
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: Clance is messed up with hatred for himself and black people; a lot of people knew it during his nomination hearings and they have been proved to be correct - Name: Grace12_34 Comment: who REALLY, REALLY gave a rat's azz about Clarence Thomas sitting on the Supreme Court?
Name: FiveMore
Comment: Grace,I understand your points. I do not want to get into an on-line sparring match about this issue but everybody aint lying about the on going incidents and I don't mean to continue on with this dialogue but yeah, the color issues are real and we, as a community, must be willing to acknowledge each others hurt and change our thinking about these issue. This stuff/crap/mess runs pretty deep, though!
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Queenie...we prolly won't see that idea of house/field negro end during our lifetime. MAybe the generation after us? What do we call a black person not seen as having the interests of blacks in mind? An Uncle Tom. What do we call a black embarazzment? A coon, minstrel. These are words deeply rooted in our vernacular and are consistently talked about even among the "smart" of us. Blonds are seen as more desirable than brunettes. that's not a black idea..but an american idea. Can I imagine a 6'4, 210 pd, Seal-black, brotha w/the booming voice of James Earl Jones, as POTUS? Uhmm...no. Whether or not we have contrasting examples of the whole light/bright thing doesn't make the notion not true. In america? Nope. We still have people who believe that most of black life looks like a hip-hop video even despite the overwhelming evidence showing otherwise. That's not right..but the reality is still there. Re; color, I don't think black people discriminate against our own when casting our vote. We've seen us in our entire spectrum. There is no historical evidence that shows white people are as comfortable voting for someone black irrespective of complexion. Keep in mind, we have not one black..of any color as a US Senator..lol
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ....I betcha Sasha and Malia get some lil white friends quick...In fact that first photo op with the girls and their new friends will have a bunch of lil White girls in the forefront....Nope, nope, Ya won't see any Shaniqua's and Latisha's up in that muthafuccer...It'll be Courney's, Mary Beths, Brittiney Elizabeth and Alice...Alice?...In the playroom at the Obama's house eating granola and raisins...raisins and playing with that lil white foo-foo dog...I betcha 10 dollars...Rak might, he might toss in a lil Black child but she's gonna be light skinded too named Naima or sumthing like Forrest Green...Looking like a lil Eryka Badu....They won't be looking like lil Hounsou's....
Name: ss69054
Comment: I don't think Malia or Sasha can handle a Pitt or Rock...
Name: bigchassie
Comment: NATURALISTA>thanks for the story on Grandma Toot, sweetie.
Name: smurfy
Comment: TGen, not singling you out....your posts are just so thoughtful...all said in love my dear, all said in love!!
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: BOOT, it's quite likely that there won't be any Shaniqua's and Latisha's up in that muthafuccer attended by the Obama girls
Name: TGen
Comment: Oh okay, thanks Smurfy! :)
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Lol@ Boot, brotha u a straight up comedian. Mary Beth? really? lol
Name: SweetieDarlin
Comment: Boot you got cracking up over here. While we know this is black folks ugly secret and I really doubt that Barack has that issue, it is an issue in general. BTW they say lighter people get better, more prestigious so based on that, possibly there are no darker folks readily available---hope that is not the case because that would be just sad. Then again there has also been the rumor that darker folks are more conservative (Larry Elder, Clarence Thomas, Joseph Phillips, Alan Keys add fuel to the fire) lighter ones are more militant because their blackness was always in question so perhaps the darker folks didn't fit the agenda. Heck we may just be seeing medium brown folks to assure a good balance LOL---but on the real whatever, black is black long as the person is qualified which they will be if Obama picks them. BTW black is truly black with the 'other' folks, too many people of color in the Cabinet and they'll be trying to go to Canada and Europe....
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: What I said was no "hate"...it was/IS FACT! Obie & Hillary disagree on one of the main issues the SoS has to deal with...FOREIGN POLICY! Now HTF should (OF ALL PEOPLE!) "Hillary" be in "that" position!? She already has admitted "his way" ain't "her's"! Her appointment could only lead to.....haterade mess!, & those are the...."facts"! One!
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: Boot - as others have said - yous a fool! LOL!
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: LOl @ musb. If he selects Hillary as his Security of State he may need a pitbull to keep away the pitbull (with lipstick).
Name: javone77
Comment: Boot: you are so out of your mind. I mean all the way thrown off LOL
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: oops my bad Secretary not Security. He may need extra security with her around though.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Grace/Musb - I'll leave it at this - I tend to think that the whole light/dark thing is in our community and not a black/white thing. I just do. Call me wrong or disagree but I really don't believe whites focus on our hue as much as we do. And I'm one of those "militant" lighter blacks, so to speak. I don't trust white folk any further than I can throw them but I think it's not them who focus on shade, it's us.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: LOL@Southern. In order to keep Hillary away, the only thing he has to do is tell her she needs to wear a dress. that'll do it...lol QB, I'm not really sure if I believe that we focus on shade and yt's dont if for no other reason that the fact that the clear distinction between the house negroes and field slaves were real..and that's not a standard we put in place. The reason that you have always seen more light complexioned blacks on covers of traditionally "white" publications isn't because they don't focus on shades. Unfortunately, we are still dealing w/the remnants of slavery..on both sides.
Name: Angel
Comment: Stephanie - The secretary of state won't become president if the Pres and VP die. The next in line is Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, and after her is the President pro tempore of the Senate, Robert Byrd. The Secretary of State is next after Byrd.
Name: ss69054
Comment: musbdherbs: dang, Hilary doesn't wear a dress??? Never noticed that notion! LOL! I guess I don't pay her much attention.
Name: khufu
Comment: good
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >ss - True story. Years ago, 1996 specifically, I was teaching government and I had my students in the library looking up information on the net. I was monitoring the sneaky lil boogers and when I looked over the shoulder of one student, he'd found a website about Hillary - www.hillaryhas fatlegs.com. or something like that. I was like WTF?!?! I saw it with my own eyes or I wouldn't have believed it. Perhaps that's why she won't wear a skirt. I think she has that whole "cankle" thing going on...
Name: bigchassie
Comment: JAVONE>I SENT YOU AN EMAIL SWEETIE. CHECK IT.
Name: ss69054
Comment: queeniebunz: girl, I'm over here hollering...LoL!!!
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