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Harleyquinn
Comment: He stupid.
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JustTellingTheTruth
Comment: Yeah, he's stuck on stupid & swinging on dumb.Obviously, common sense is not an option & never will be.
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huey
Comment: hope the club gotz some video footage on tape, huey would like to pour up a drink of hennessy and laugh at that beetle juice loooking mother effer hopping around that night club after laying a slug in his own ham hock.
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ss69054
Comment: Shaking my head. I don't understand the mentality of some of these athletes. Yes gifted in sports but no damn common sense whatsoever.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: When I first heard this sh1t...I was like WTF?...Yo, if he shoots himself in the ham at a spot then how is he gonna take out a jackal?...He11, he'd probaby shoot himself again...tryna git his piece out...Dayum, he coulda shot his piece tryna git to his piece...And that sh1t woulda hurted like a muthafuccer...Yeah, I said HURTED....Sh1t, I was hoping for a repeat...This just makes it more difficult...
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Reds
Comment: “an onlooker saw Burress near the V.I.P. area of the club holding a drink in his left hand and fidgeting his right hand in the area of the waistline of his pants. The witness then heard a single “pop”….Each time I hear of these incidents, I wonder why wasn’t the safety on. Most autos are cocked when locked and loaded. Common sense would say that having it in your waste in that state is suicidal. The leagues need to have mandatory gun safety classes for its players….BTW, was he really wearing a sweat pants as Jon Stewart of the Daily Show said. He said it was sliding down his sweat pants and when he tried to grab it, it went off.
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showtime
Comment: What the heck was he doing at the Latin Quarter, that's a low-budget club for YOUNG folks. With all of the clubs New York has to offer, he chose the Latin Quarter. LOL!
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Disillusioned_Jones
Comment: When I first heard the details I also wondered about why he didn't have the weapon on safety. That alone is scary because it clearly shows that Plax has no idea about how to operate a gun in the first place. You only sweep the safety when you are ready to shoot. I agree totally with Mayor Bloomberg. Dude needs to serve time for this. Luckily, the only person he shot was himself but this situation could've been much, much worse.
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Disillusioned_Jones
Comment: showtime, again...I said the same thing. The LQ is for kids. Silly Rabbit!
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Angel
Comment: Seeing that he shot himself (ouch), I think serving time is a bit much. He's an idiot though. If you're going to carry a gun, learn how to use it and carry it legally and safely. He has all that money....but he couldn't take a couple of bucks to put towards something a little more secure than sticking the gun in his waistband?!? Stupid is as stupid does. SMDH
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PRDC
Comment: I don't think he needs to serve hard times if he doesn't have a record. Bloomberg need to shut the hell up, he's mad because it makes the city of NY looks bad. One thing about these professional athelets most are so stupid, thinking they are all of that a piece of peppermint. He also should have gotten the gun registered for his own good because they do get robbed a lot. He thinks its all about him and its not. Grow the hell up. Do community service and pay big, its too many black men in jail as it is, why continue to put them away for minor things...he mistakenly shot himself...yes, he could have shot someone else, but he didn't. He footbal career probably is over after getting signed all those millions. That'sone thing about us, not use to money....
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ss69054
Comment: PRDC: they are making an example of him like Vick. Yes it would be harsh but at the same time he needs to be hit hard because he has taken his blessings of being rich and priviledge for granted. And if this club is for kiddies it let u know what mindset he has. He need some growing up seriously.
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Disillusioned_Jones
Comment: Perhaps I'm not as liberal as I thought because I don't see this as a minor infraction. This cat had a gun in a nightclub. An eyewitness said Plax had a DRINK in his left hand (and I'm sure it wasn't Kool-Aid)...and a weapon in his waistband that wasn't on safety. Okay, so we have alcohol and a loaded weapon...is it just me or does anyone see something wrong with this picture? Not yet? Okay...so I guess Plax would've had to accidentally shoot an innocent bystander for the message to get across that what he did put not only his own life but everyone that was in that club lives' in danger as well. That clubber could've been you or someone that you love dearly just looking to go out and have a good time and end up getting shot by some multi-millionaire athelete with no rap sheet and too cheap to hire security. There were two other Giants with Plax, surely they could've all pitched in and hired an off-duty cop! But wait! That's being responsible! Too me, minor infractions don't involve life or death or the possibility of life or death. Let's just forget that this is a pro athelete we're talking about and let's pretend this is Joe Six Pack that did this same thing in the club you frequent, or someone close to you frequents...
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BecuzICan
Comment: Why shouldn't he serve time??? You better believe if it was one of our black azzes we'd be sitting in jail right now! He's a football star so that makes him above the law? No, I don't think he should do 15 years, but he should do some time. On one hand we bytch about celebs getting "star" treatment, then on the other hand we want to let dummies like him get away with committing crimes. These athletes are BLESSED to be getting paid millions of dollars doing something they love to do...so they need to act like it!
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Disillusioned_Jones
Comment: Becuz, my sentiments exactly! Common people like us can't and don't get away with sh*t yet we are always ready to jump up and protect the rich like they're martyr's for acting irresponsibly. Like Angel said, stupid is as stupid does. This could've been Plaxico Parker at Club Zero for all I care. The point is the act of placing lives in danger. That's major, not minor. Like I stated earlier as tragic as this scene played out Plax and everyone up in that club is lucky that he only shot himself...
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Angel
Comment: BecuzICan - I think this crime and crimes like it are a waste of tax payers dollars to lock up these people who have no prior record. I think a suspended sentence with a hefty community service commitment is more appropriate. If he fails to meet his commitment, then throw the book at him.
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yardie1115
Comment: They should throw the book at this realy stupid man. I am very tired of these guys. Did this fool not learn anything from Pacman's many ills? There are reasons they have laws against having fire arms where liquour is being served and consumed. It will soothe my curiosity to ascertain why the safety was off while he was handling the gun. Another thing, he was already in hot water with his team, he should have bought a bottle and chilled at the crib. If His Honour, The Mayor, has his way, Plaxico is on his way to the farm. What the hell kinda name is Plaxico anyway?
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Thank you, DJ! I can't phathom how folk are gonna justify defending this stupid azz.
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Grace12_34
Comment: BecuzICan is 100% correct. I despise Mayor Michael Bloomberg, but every single word spilling from his mouth about this incident is true. THE LAW here in New York City states that if you are caught with an UNREGISTERED (i.e. ILLEGAL) handgun, you will AUTOMATICALLY get assigned to 3-1/2 years in a state prison, PERIOD. That is the MINIMUM amount of time Mr. Burress should be sentenced to. We are SICK AND TIRED of the gunplay here in this city, ESPECIALLY among impressionable young people -- the same young people who look up to Plaxico Burress as a HERO. That is the reason WHY the law was written in the first place. The way I see it, thank goodness the bullet entered HIS body and not someone else's. He could have KILLED someone. It's known as RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT and it figures into this scenario. DUH. Suppose that bullet HAD entered someone else's brain?? What would you say THEN, PRDC?!
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javone77
Comment: good morning everyone! I think this situation gets crazier every minute.which one of us has not learned a lesson from the people who came before us? unregistered handguns? hiding the handgun? come on now.
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CRENEEJ
Comment: GRACE, DJ, i agree wholeheartedly. he needs to go to jail. we can't just give him a pass b/c he only shot himself. he coulda killed someone, and whether he did it accidentally or not, he still chose to have, carry, and discharge a loaded weapon in a crowded club. hell charge him w/ %*$ault too. throw the book at him, it's his fault that he put himself in a position to be an example. JAV, i wrote to u on the other board. u ok?
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javone77
Comment: creneej: I am blessed and feeling good today. why do you ask?
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giantsfan
Comment: Let me get this straight....Bloomberg comes out of his mouth with all this tough talk toward Plaxico, but last month when those cops stuck the radio antenna up the man's %*$ because he was smoking weed, he didnt say jack?!?!? That makes lots of sense.......
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BecuzICan
Comment: Angel - By the grace of God he didn't badly harm or kill anyone, including himself, which he easily could have done. But that's not the point. He broke the law...and he's not above the law. If it were you, do you think that judge would let you walk outta that court room with community service?
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lilmocc
Comment: Plax was wrong and definitely should be punished - PERIOD, but I think 3.5 years may be a bit much. Bloomberg should STFU as he wasn't up in arms when the NYPD shot an unarmed Sean Bell up AND got away with it, not to mention many, many, many other incidents of excessive force by the NYPD. Don't pick and choose. Be outraged by ALL the wrongs or don't say anything at all....
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TesticAl
Comment: *Lauryn HIll*Lick 2 shots in the atmoshpere*Lauryn Hill*
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javone77
Comment: testical!!!! where ya been man??? :)
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Angel
Comment: BecuzICan - My point was that I don't think ANYONE under this fact pattern (no prior record and no one else harmed) should be sent to prison. Prison is not the answer for everything and I think it creates more criminals than it rehabilitates. Put his azz to work cleaning highways, parks, toilets and what not. I think a year or so of giving up his freetime instead of all of his freedom is a better solution. JMHO
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queeniebunz
Comment: This guy should be taken out and shot!...oh wait a minute, he already got shot...let me think on this again...
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Angel
Comment: LMAO @ queeniebunz
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Disillusioned_Jones
Comment: Why does every situation have to change course of direction when a point is made? The thread is dealing with Plaxico, a possible illegal gun, a club full of people and that's it. What happened last week in another situation is just that, another situation. What relevance is made when you introduce last month's debacle into today's problem? The cops that sodomized that dude has a time and place but in no way should serve as a reason for Plaxico to be exonerated of his crime. Those cops should be dealt with but that's another board, another thread, another problem to be addressed. STAY FOCUSED! We can volley back and forth on whether or not some of us feel Plax should serve time but the question is simple: Did he commit a crime? Yes? Or No? If the law states CLEARLY what the punishment is then are we arguing NY's gun law as it applies to all citizens that reside in the state or in Plaxico's behalf because we think he's getting a raw deal? Perhaps we'll see Al Sharpton leading a "Stay Lax on Plax" rally on City Hall's footsteps? Maybe. But these guns out here are way outta control and a stand needs to made. And If Plax is the poster child then so be it...
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musbdherbs
Comment: The law CLEARLY states that the impeding an investigation is a crime. Scooter Libby commited one. Scooter didn't go to the jail. The law is the law..unless. Plax is dumb, stupid for doing it even. Is it enuff to go to jail for 3.5 years? Uhmm..of course not. Genarlow was sentenced according to the "law." He would be in jail until his 20's had the "law" not been circumvented.
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musbdherbs
Comment: BTW, there are people like "us" who get off on crimes everyday. So it's nothing new. Money, lawyers, connections will throw the "law" away in a minute.
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musbdherbs
Comment: and I ain't done yet. Bloomberg needs to STFU. If he was so worried about laws being broken in NYC..he would've done more about the Sean Bell case. Hell, plax shot his own damn self. His police department did a mob hit on one man and now he's furious. Furious my azz. Besides, he's the same mfkr that promised not to seek another term. But then changed his mind because NYC "needed" him. fk him too...another self-indulged politician.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >DJ - I don't want to see him go to jail because I think it's a waste of taxpayer money unless they make him pay for his stay there - maybe that's what they should make wealthy prisoners do - pay for their room and board. Shoot, maybe they should make all prisoners do that. >musb - it's sounding like you wanna give dude a pass. Why is that?
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TGen
Comment: Co-sign PDRC, Angel, and Musb. Throwing this guy in jail will accomplish what? And I agree too the NY mayor, in all his inflated ego, is nauesating. Yuck
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SpecialK
Comment: Nothin worse than an un-edu-ma-cated thug!! Did he arrest himself? Did he press charges against himself? LOL!! This is some funny shyt!
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Disillusioned_Jones
Comment: Generally when "we" get off it's due to bad procedure, i.e., no rights were read, bad state appointed lawyers, evidence tampering, etc. I re-read that post about something in regards to Scooter but didn't get the point. Again, if the precedent is set that Scooter did it and got away with it then we all get away with it then so be it. People get away with murder...AND? I'm not advocating that the justice system is not flawed, I'm not THAt naive! What I am advocating is personal responsibility and the lack thereof particularly when it comes to guns. Tax payer dollars? I'm a tax payer and I want to see stricter regulation on handguns. Violators need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, period. Guns kill. How many deadbeat dads are locked up in jail? Are they a threat? Should a man that doesn't provide for his kids be locked and the man that endangers a club full of people with an unregistered handgun be allowed to pickup trash on the highway? Or should we just start tolerating more gun violence until enough people get shot (since that what it will take to make people understand the inherent danger guns pose)?
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musbdherbs
Comment: QB..u can call it that surely. The state often decides when breaking a "law" is subject to criminal prosecution. When the family members of a murdered person attacks the murderer in court, rarely do you see a prosecution EVEN THOUGH they broke the law IN COURT of all places. So this whole "the law is the law thing" is a moot point for me. I don't believe shooting yourself even w/an illegally owned gun (or whatver happened here) should a a crime punishable w/3yrs imprisonment. We love to send people to jail but we fail to realize that it's not the inmate who pay for their incarceration we do.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Dis..Scooter broke the law. He (and the yt house) possibly endangered the life of a CIA agent. No one was prosecuted. Should a man who soils the oval office..subjecting himself and his country to bribery be allowed to continue his presidency? There's always a what if. In this case, Plax possibly endangered the lives of others and shot his own dumb azz self. That's the point. Should he receive 3.5 for it. I say no..ESPECIALLY if he doesn't have a record. TGEN..ain't that the most egotistical shyt u done seen? I mean straight bullshyt.
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TesticAl
Comment: javone77, I've been around. You probably have just missed my posts. Sup Herbs.
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Disillusioned_Jones
Comment: "Possibly" endanger someone's life? Mus, I'm a war vet. I know guns alot more than I wish. Because of my knowledge of guns I have a very healthy respect for them...and I respect the law. I believe in the second amendment so long as one exercises personal responsibiity. A soiled White House? Wow! I can think of more dirt than just Scooter's case when it comes to the history of the White House. But again, that's taking us away from the focus at hand. I see that we clearly sit on different sides of the fence and that's fine. I can amicably agree to disagree. We both made our points...and there's no respect loss.
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DoctorSmooth
Comment: Hmmm...
If he had activated the safety on his gun, this probably would not have happened...or... if he had the gun in a HOLSTER instead of stuck it in his waistband (big dummy!), this wouldn't have happened. Amazing how a careless moment can change the course of your whole life. Wasted talent is a tragedy. This is sad. I feel bad for his poor wife.
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javone77
Comment: testical: I must have :) good to see yu though :)
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Angel
Comment: Disillusioned - Before a guy goes to jail for child support, there are several steps and violations. It's not like he misses one payment and in the clinker he goes. I have a healthy respect for guns, too. I think once you shoot yourself like this idiot did, that gives him a new perspective and respect. Guns are terrible, but more people die in car accidents. Should we throw people in jail who drive without a license or people caught speeding? I just think that more can be accomplished in other ways than by just throwing folks in prison.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Angel..u made my point better.
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TesticAl
Comment: javone, good seeing you around too. You know I'm always here lurking in da bushes. LOL!
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Disillusioned_Jones
Comment: Angel, I admire you and herbs opinions but I stand on the other side of the fence. Yes, more people die in car accidents because almost everyone has one, needs one. Can we say the same thing about guns? My gun serves one purpose and one purpose only. Here in VA, I could carry it concealed but I have to have a permit. I can't go onto a military base with it, but if I want to I can break both laws...carrying my gun concealed and getting caught with it on one of these military bases. I knew better but I chose to gamble. That's what this is about. You make the decision, face the music. Plax knew better obviously because at one point his weapon was registered. He made a conscious decision and as a result of his bad decision making he must pay the price. The moral of this story either way is for individuals to think. It's not that hard. Think about what the hell you are doing. Plax ain't no teenager. He's a grown azzed man. As such, handle your grown man B-I. And I don't care if he shot himself in the leg. That's just humor to the situation if you want to view it that way. Keep in mind that the bullet he shot himself with didn't get lodged in his leg. It GRAZED it which means that there was a round to be accounted for. We can speculate on what COULD've happened but that's what I'm getting at. There are laws in place to prevent those circumstances from happening in the first place. But I see that some of us look at laws as loose guidelines and I can't conversate with people like that. That's like when I was in Iraq and trying to figure out a faceless enemy. Either stand firm for something or fall for anything...
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MelodyCool
Comment: I'm not so sure if Plax should do any time for this incident. The gun was registered in Florida but not in NY. However, all the headlines are screaming that it's time to make an example of athletes behaving badly to send a message to the others. It blows my mind how some of them feel actually believe it's out of their control just to stay out of trouble. I saw bits of an interview with Plax where he stated most of his problems are of his "own" making. This is a good start. He looked as if he finally understood the seriousness of his predicament when they hauled him away in cuffs. Some fans are angry at Antonio Pierce and don't want him playing as well. Plax walk around looking like a hoodrat and now he'll get the street cred he's been craving. With all these incidents piling up it wouldn't surprise me if the league finally bans him.
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Angel
Comment: Disillusioned - I feel you. He broke the law and should be punished. My point is that I think the punishment fits the crime, but I don't live in NY. If the people of NY feel that everyone caught with an unlicensed gun should automatically spend 3 1/2 years in prison, then so be it. I just personally feel that the law is excessive. Either way, I don't carry unlicensed weapons so it doesn't personally affect me.
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Angel
Comment: I meant punishment DOESN'T fit the crime.
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FreakyQue2U
Comment: The new moniker for Burress should be: Cheddar Bob
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Harriet
Comment: As a Cowboy's fan, I was secretly pleased to hear about the wide receiver potentially (albeit stupidly) damaging that thigh that he uses so adeptly up and down that field. But then I wondered what the hell kind of club do Black men go into that requires them to carry a gun? I have been in my fair share of clubs and the most dangerous thing I have experienced is overcrowding, four-inch heels, and too many mojitos. Why do brothers take a piece to a party? I do not think that Plaxico should serve time for this. The next time he goes out I want him to take Eli with him and maybe just kinda shoot him in the pinky toe- or finger. Just kidding. . .sorta.
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