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Name: tellyy

Comment: elizabeth haselback IS a dumb broad,period!

Name: Taurusingr

Comment: tellyy: Ahh, YEP!!....And she's too dumb to KNOW she's dumb! Now...."that's" DUMB for yo as-s!! Holla!

Name: mocha

Comment: Does this mean shw will cry on tv today and be consoled with her own show on Fox News. She seems very unhappy now that she can't rant about our new President.

Name: ss69054

Comment: Indeed she is a dumb broad who is close-minded and ignorant. I I hope one day Obama could meet with him privately and talk. I think he was hurt by the dissed that had to be necessary. Although, I didn't see any wrong with his preaching. He was keeping it real telling the truth about Amerikkka. But the media portrayed him as a racist and tried to use that against Obama.

Name: BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN

Comment: if anyone saw the View the day after Obama Won, please tell me what happened on the show! I know Whoppi was beaming like a new bulb! Was Liz unusually quiet?

Name: huey

Comment: ok, is this man retarded?

Name: MONSTER

Comment: The campaign is over, the election is over and still the drama continues. While everyone gets up in arms by whatever version of the truth they hear - I have to ask myself WTH? Although Rev. Wright versed his personal opinions out loud in church, it was Barack that was on the attack. Barack made his decisions based on what's best for HIS families safety and to win an election that was long overdue. The media is the main culprit in all this - and I also agree that Hasselbeck is a jerk!

Name: nineteen06

Comment: Im no fan of Hasselbeck (although I dont think she believes half of what she says - I think she says it for "shock value"), but Wright has become an embarassment to Trinity and to Christianity as a whole. The platform of the pulpit should be taken seriously, yet he uses it to express his misguided opinions - KNOWING the impact that it could have. That's the epitome of arrogance and condescencion, and there is nothing Christlike about that. Surely he cant think God is pleased, which should be the litmus test for everything thats spoken from such a platform. I digress...

Name: B00TANEB00TUS

Comment: ...I admire Rev. Wright...I admired him when he was denounced...I admired him when he was pounced ( on by the critics)...I admire him 'cause he speaks truth...I admire him and so does my Aunt Ruth...I understand why Rak had to back away..I also know it was the Clinton's who put him in play...Rak is POTUS but he knew what Rev. Wright was preaching about...We all know this....

Name: TGen

Comment: Co-sign Boot. The man is "bombastic" (his favorite word, lol) and his animated style might be a little much for some people, but I don't think you can judge him if you've never been through what he's been through. If he feels at home enough in his church to express himself amongst his church family, let him. He didn't ask to be thrust in the national spotlight. He was minding his own business, preaching, speaking all over the world, being praised for being a religious scholar, etc. The msm is the culprit here. Unless your name has been dragged through the mud and in a matter of a year, you go from being one of the most respected preachers in the country to one of the most hated, there is little room to judge. Dude is not perfect, he's pompous and arrogant, has done some questionable things (like affairs) and whatnot, but in the large scope of things, he is the VICTIM here, not the villain. He was prey for a dishonest, sensation-seeking predator (esp Sean Hannity, yuck). We must not forget that. Just my 2 cents

Name: Grace12_34

Comment: I co-sign with Huey and nineteen06. Wright IS an embarrassment and needs to just STFU. I'm soooooo sick and tired of him.

Name: Reds

Comment: The argument is that this unaired McCain ad on Rev. Wright was supposed to make McCain defeat Obama. The ad contained the same old tired “Goddamned America” line and did not seem as any more effective/ineffective as all the other Republican Rev.Wright ads. Why was this one supposed to make a difference? Supposedly because it ended with the line “I am John McCain and I approve this message.” Go figure. My guess is that McCain was smart enough to know that approving an ad like that would lead to an even bigger defeat. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Vote2008/story?id=639577 5&page=1

Name: NdueCzon

Comment: I agree with Boot & TGen. Dr. Wright is an extremely learned man of God. Yes, man of God. He preaches the Word. So 1906 & Grace 13_34 and others, please refrain from hurling hateful insults at him, his ministry and his calling. Unless you have had the opportunity to see him, know him in his entirety (the good, the bad and the ugly), I believe that your judgments of him are media-based. Read some of his works; listen to his messages...all of them not just the inflammatory, sensational fragments that media outlets play. No matter what President-Elect Obama did during the campaign or has started to demonstrate through his selections, I CAN see Rev. Wright's influence. I can see it in the confident manner in which he talks and even in the swagger in his walk. No matter how far the media forces P-E Obama to push away from Rev. Wright, it was God who set their relationship in motion and it is God who is continuing to use them BOTH to bring forth change. Can any of you please explain to me WHY the media continues to be concerned with "every word" that comes from Rev. Wright's mouth? If they are SOOOOOO concerned because he poses a threat to our way of life or whatever, where were they when he was preaching this same way and the same content over the last, uuum, ooooh let's say...35 YEARS?!?!?!?!? C'mon people...WAKE UP!

Name: ss69054

Comment: The day after the election Elizabeth stated that she is now behind Obama-yeah right. Just fake as she can get.

Name: Ky901

Comment: What is wrong with preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ in the pulpit?

Name: nightshift

Comment: This guy needs to stop talking. Yeah this girl is dumb but, he's showing colors that are not in season.

Name: huey

Comment: all i gotz to say is that "Bozo the Clergy" needs to go sit the he11 down and stop calling people names from the pulpit. my grammama use to say "if u cant say something nice then stfu."...well, maybe she didnt exactly say that, but u know what i mean...

Name: McNasty

Comment: As a man of Christ he should be able to move past hasselbeck and all like her. As a man slandered and drug through the mud I can't take issue with him referring to the ditz as a broad - he could have said worse. I believe too that he needs to once and for all walk away from this situation - at this point it gives him 5 more minutes in the spotlight. Not that that's a bad thing but how about he tell us what he's doing since retiring or how involved he's gotten in the community. This shyt is finished!

Name: nineteen06

Comment: NdueCzon - being from Chicago and having known Dr. Wright's work - FOR A VERY LONG TIME, Im very much qualified to speak on it. That said, I need not qualify my opinion. However, I AM curious as to how anyone equates "dumb broad" to God's Word...pray tell?

Name: NdueCzon

Comment: Nightshift....he's a stubborn, educated 70-something-years-old man who's been preaching and teaching all of his life. Which one of you can make your grandparents stop telling you what to do? Even though my grandparents have all passed away, I do remember that they ALWAYS had a comment and a position on everything. We and the media should just leave Rev. Wright alone and let him do what he feels he needs to do. Trust me, none of this would be a big deal if we would stop making it a big deal.

Name: sweetpea

Comment: He is way out of line calling Elizabeth "a dumb broad". Even though I don't care for her myself, he should apologize to her. This is a bad example he setting being a Reverend.

Name: huey

Comment: NdueCzon --dont get it twisted, some old folkz need to have a foot put in the azz too!! aint nobody immune from a swift kick straight in betweenst the azz cheeks when need be!!

Name: NdueCzon

Comment: 1906...didn't mean to insult your opinion, we are all entitled to our own. In no means did I imply that every word that comes out of Dr. Wright's mouth to be the Gospel of Christ...clearly it is not. But, why are we continuing to tear him apart? For those of us who are familiar with Rev. Wright, none of the things brought forth in the media are new to us. It's what has helped him put fire under the butts of people to move them beyond their situations into their destinies. It is who he is and what he does. Why must we all stand by and watch his public hanging? Just like Huey's grammama said:"if we ain't saying something...." you get the picture. I just don't think that we need to sit around and pitch more gas on the fire. The media has enough oil connections to continue to set him ablaze.

Name: ss69054

Comment: sweetpea: I agree that she is dumb but yeah that was way over the top. You are not suppose to use the pulpit in an ill-manner like that. That is not right regardless of how she is. I just think he is hurt more so by the media. Obama and him were close and he is partly responsible for Obama's evolvement. I read the book "Audacity to Hope". He needs to move on. But any given day this brotha does speak truth. The whiteys got afraid by association.

Name: DCGG

Comment: Rev Wright is wrong azz hell, she ain't no dumb broad...she's a stupid azz bytch! Git it right!

Name: umph_umph_umph

Comment: Wright still speaking, huh? Enough already... How long will this go on? It's obvious that his feeling are still hurt but damn man/Rev "Let It Go" BO didn't mean to give you a TKO.

Name: smurfy

Comment: co-sign TGen and Boot.... plus i like the reverend and the election is over yet, FOX news will continue to show his sermons in church...this is to further denigrate rak....i will not watch FOX on 20 jan...trust and believe those racists will not fairly depict the event.

Name: MOTHERSHIP

Comment: NdueCzon, Boot, TGen, I concur. What they need to do is keep a close eye on Bush's sneaky azz in his last 42 days make sure he ain't overturnin' shyt and placing whatever he couldn't do in the last 8 years outta spite.

Name: Grace12_34

Comment: NdueCzon, I disagree with you. I do NOT "see" Reverend Wright's influence in Barack Obama. I see the influence of his mother, grandmother, grandfather, and ESPECIALLY his father, even though he was not with Barack for most of his life. The President-Elect exudes the confidence of HIS FATHER, has the intelligence and facial features of his mother and grandfather and the midwestern values of his grandmother. Reverend Wright has almost NOTHING to do with the man that is Barack Obama.

Name: Smokie1

Comment: Don't be crazy yall, Wright understands that reason for Obama needing to step back from him and Obama explained it well in the speeches that he gave, he is not the POTUS for Black America, he is the President of the UNITED STATES and that means all of us that call this nation our home. Hasselback knows that she is crazy and she is going to make that money off of it too. The best thing to do with the both of them is to let Wright continue preaching, and let Hasselback continue to look crazy. They will both sign their own way OFF of the airwaves.

Name: ss69054

Comment: I refuse to watch FOX myself. I'm sure they will remain negative about Prezzie O for the next 8 years. Yeah I said 8 years.

Name: PRDC

Comment: I think Rev. Wright is a little hurt, but he should really understand. He should act like Rev. Farrakhan, he stayed out of the way, because they wanted to bring him into the picture of things and he just set quitely and let history be made. I thinkObama still love Rev. Wright and one day he will realize that.

Name: Grace12_34

Comment: I co-sign with Huey (LMAO) ... a good azz-kicking is a universal language that EVERYBODY understands.

Name: huey

Comment: Grace12_34---yep, a swift, bombastic kick straight in the azz is a good all-around elixer for all the ails old folkz and young alike...

Name: Grace12_34

Comment: For once, I agree with PRDC. If Louis Farrakhan can STFU, then it shouldn't be a problem for Reverend Wright to do the same thing. Reverend Wright's rabble-rousing rhetoric is inappropriate for a Christian "man of the cloth." As a former follower of Louis Farrakhan, I am more than familiar with incendiary sermons. Barack did what he NEEDED to do, to wit, kick Wright's and anybody else's azz to the side who would make him look bad and have a negative effect on his chances for the White House.

Name: javone77

Comment: Good morning everyone. Huey I am here. you happy now?

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: I had no problem w/Wright during the primary and certainly don't have a problem w/him now. I can't imagine having to remain silent when you are dragged through the mud by the media, republicans and most of all DEMOCRATS. No person indirectly affiliated w/Obama could say nething outside of praise for Obama and his positions. Now that's over. Fk silence. He's in the yt house now and no amount of rev. wright can kick him out. If he was concerned about Wright, he should've left the church years ago. Well he didn't.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: Grace...having never seen his father while he was living, how do you "see" Obama Sr's influence on Obama more than Wrights? He was influenced by Wright. I would azzume that's why he allowed him to name his book and talk so fondly about him.

Name: huey

Comment: javone77 ---yes my little sweet heart...ive missed u immensly!! so glad to have u here.

Name: javone77

Comment: huey: you missed me? really?

Name: huey

Comment: yep

Name: SpecialK

Comment: I wish Rev. Wright would go somewhere and be quiet. Everyone knows what he's been through but that does not excuse his un-Christ like behavior. How in da hell are you gonna stand in the pulpit and call a woman a dumb broad? That may be how he feels and no one on this earth is without sin but the pulpit is not the place to sling hatred. He needs to let it go.

Name: huey

Comment: SpecialK --but he's "bombastic"...does he get a pass?

Name: Southernbelle

Comment: I would have called her a dumb blond but I'd settle for "dumb broad".

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: I saw this headline and I was like "Oh lawd, here we go again!"...as others have said, calling someone a "stupid broad is not Christlike. It's just not. You don't get in the pulpit and call names. It's ridiculous and he should know better. As far as Obama is concerned, he really needs to just let it go. A mature person would stop commenting period. He is old enough and experienced enough to know that once his controversial rhetoric became so public, Obama really had no choice but to distance himself from it if he wanted to win. Anybody with any sense would just let it drop. At this point Wright is working for the enemy and not God. God don't like [name-calling] ugly, especially from one of His own. Clearly this man's ego is wounded and he's being inappropriate as a result. At this point my comment about him has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with a man of the cloth calling a woman a name, any name. You are supposed to be above that as a teacher of the word of God. Jeez. *shaking my head*

Name: ss69054

Comment: musbdherbs: I said the same thing in my comment. I agree with you.

Name: B00TANEB00TUS

Comment: ....I will nevah, nevah, evah, evah, evah, evah, evah, evah, evah, speak harshly on one our elders...Rev. Wright like my grandfathers lived through sh1t most of us can only imagine...Hassleb1tch is a dumbazz broad...She's just tryna git a show on FOX...Now, I may not agree 100% with what Rev. Wright said but I admire his courage for speaking...To be honest, I still can't find anything wrong with his sermons...I looked at the transcript...Looks OK to me...I like my preachers with a lil scrap in 'em...Turn the other cheek just long enuff to see if you can find sumthing to bash a muthafuccers head in..That's just me...I will agree with some of ya'll that the Rev is probably hurt by the denouncing and disowning..debuking...by de President elect...I too wish he'd let it go...but hey...He's a grown-azz man...

Name: ELSBABY

Comment: Rev Wright gives me a headache and that is MY opinion. Pastors/Bishops/Clergy whatever are supposed to preach the WORD of GOD and behave in Christlike manner. Yes I know that we are all not perfect and sometimes our own agenda gets in the way of what the true mission is. I didn't hear the whole sermon so I will only comment that a man of GOD calling someone a dumb broad although true is not dignified in any way. It is better to be thought of as stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!

Name: javone77

Comment: huey: you could have emailed or called me at any time if it was that serious...but I digress LOL

Name: Angel

Comment: Calling someone a dumb broad is something I would expect of a simpleton. I hope he said something more intelligent before or after that comment...

Name: bigchassie

Comment: *looking at HUEY and JAVONNE> uh do yall need a room?? here is the couch! all i know, the Inaugration is gonna be off the chain!!

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: There you go QB...making a mere mortal..a god. Now Wright is working for the devil? I surprised that he allowed himself to be heard calling her a bumb broad..but not bothered by the fact that he said it. I don't attend his church so... and yes as you said..Obama made his choice for political reasons. Believe it or not, people should be able to comment about Obama w/out being considered the enemy even a Rev. BTW, forgive me for growing up around foul-mouthed preachers. Ok..maybe not foul mouthed..but those known for using the people's language.

Name: javone77

Comment: chassie: LOL no room needed LOL

Name: javone77

Comment: chassie: BTW, did you get my email yesterday?

Name: Southernbelle

Comment: The "dumb broad" called Wright out so he's only responding back. Like my momma said "If you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen".

Name: Grace12_34

Comment: Mus, I read "Dream From My Father." In that book, Barack Obama made HIS FATHER come alive. The "confident manner and swagger in his walk" referred to by NdueCzon is that of Barack Obama, Sr., NOT REVEREND WRIGHT. It is the confident manner and swagger of the African Luo. Hence, the title of the book. And THIS makes it all the more tragic that his father is not here to see what happened. Jeremiah Wright is NOT Barack Obama's father.

Name: Grace12_34

Comment: Plural on the "Dream" .. "Dreams"

Name: HarrisThomas

Comment: in the political scheme of things, Obama tried to stamp down the political fire around Wright whose sermon content is continuously taken out of context and inaccurately as well as negatively blown up to show race hatred as though blacks have the power to institutionalize racism [white mythological bullshyt fronting as truth] . . . . Obama didn't stamp out all of the embers before Wright threw gas on the embers with his National Press Club performance and remarks causing Obama to have to tear asunder a relationship that had been beneficial to both men . . . . both men have lost much no matter the reasons . . . . . with regard to the "dumb broad" remark, our elders are not excused from being civil because they demonstrate role model behavior that we aspire to as future elders and our elders are most definitely role models to children and very young adults

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: Grace..are you reading a different post. No one said he was his father. You said that Obama was not influenced by Wright. I said that he has been. Apparently we simply differ w/the evidence being more on my side than yours.

Name: HarrisThomas

Comment: I remeber when elders strongly emphaszied the need to demonstrate good behavior in public: we need to revisit the concept and the action because it has been demonstrated that it works

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: >musb - I stand by what I said. There are many people who are deflected from church by the actions/words of "churched" people. These people say to themselves, "If that's the way church people act, I don't want to go there. I'm doing just fine out here in the world". When you present God in a negative way, you ARE doing the enemy's work for him. You are keeping people from God so he doesn't have to. When you are a teacher of God's word, you have to keep in mind that everything you say and do is being observed and will sometimes be a deciding factor in someone's decision to get saved. You can call it making him a god but that's not what I'm doing and I think you know that. Attitude reflects leadership. As the leader of his church, he is letting his flock think it's okay to call names. It is not okay. We learn in freakin kindergarten to not call names. How does a 70-yr old man not know this or teach it?

Name: Grace12_34

Comment: Mus, I have read ALL your posts. Apparently, we "simply differ" since you choose to flatter yourself with faulty logic. My POINT was that Barack Obama's personality, "confident manner and swagger" were already in place long BEFORE HE EVER MET Jeremiah Wright. My POINT was that the model for Barack Obama was NOT Jeremiah Wright but HIS FATHER. Even his mother (the woman who brought him into the world) said he was his FATHER'S son. My POINT was the Jeremiah Wright did NOT make Barack Obama the man he is today.

Name: Gennamir

Comment: Amen to QueenieB and Grace!! CTFU@Heuy lol! but you too are right!

Name: Katso

Comment: Rev. Wright's sermons are just hate filled even his tone and delivery. I see why more and more people stay away from churches. Who wants to go to hear someone yelling hateful things from the alter on a Sunday morning. Reminds me of Jim Jones documentaries that were on CNN and MSNBC last month. I gave Rev. Wright a pass in the beginning but more and more I dont see how Obama and his family can could sit in that church for 20 years!!!!

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: QB...and those are just beliefs I don't share. I would imagine that Obama has heard worse from Wright. He was unbothered by it for 20 years. I'm not gonna "now" be bothered by it. I would guess that the 6000K christians who followed Wright (including Obama til recently) don't share your view on Wright as well. They, just as you, are entitled to their own feelings about their own pastor. Clearly, it's not a church for you just like Falwell's anti-american rhetoric is not for others. Yes attitude and actions reflect leadership. Not surprisingly, the Clinton's don't seem to suffer from their lack of such. So nah, I'm gud on Wright and my opinion of him.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: Grace...faulty logic? Let's see, you said that you don't see wrights influence on Obama and that he has nothing to do w/the man he is today. I said that I disagree and somehow that's flawed logic. If your point was ONLY that Obama's personality and swagger was in place before Obama joined Trinity in his 20's, then that's what you should have said. You didn't. You said Wright had no influence. Try clearly stating an unambigous point first...then accuse me of having faulty logic.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: QB..oh yeah.QB...we talked the other day bout your dislike of people w/money and power doing stuff for their benefit. I'm sure you're equally disgusted that Caroline Kennedy is even being considered for NY Senator. I know I think it's a ridiculous move. .

Name: Dean32

Comment: I'm surprised that people on this board have negative opinions about a man who is speaking the truth; unless you have been asleep all your life in this country of hatred. It seem okay for any race but the African-American race to remember or be reminded of all the dirty lowdown things that people have done to our people because of our race. We are a lost race of people and history, why is that? Try opening your eyes to the truth. A man in america who's mother is white and father is African is called a black man. Why is that the case. My mother and father did not teach me to hate the people that hate my race nor did they teach me to love them either. Unless you have walked in Rev. Wright's shoe I don't think you will understand what this man knows.

Name: McNasty

Comment: I'd just like to know when Rev. Wright ceased to be human? He still has residue and his pulpit is one place where he can 'lay his burden down'. Granted as a man of the cloth he could have found a more diplomatic way to verbalize it but I ain't mad at him for speaking his truth. No one person can dictate how another expresses themselves and in light of anybody black being gagged through this process - he now speaks. I also don't think the Rev. owes the little becky an apology - he hasn't insulted her but if she takes offense she can ask anyone with half a brain who listened to her how offensive she was - she'd never be able to stand it.

Name: oldsoul

Comment: I question his Connection...MOTHER, injoy the day derty!

Name: SpecialK

Comment: Rev. Wright just needs to shut his mouth. I personally would have been offended sitting in his church and him referring to any woman as a "dumb broad". Rev. Wright should learn the meaning of forgiveness, practice it, and keep it moving. I'll be damned if I'm 70 yrs. old and still bitter. Rev. Wright should be rejoicing in the fact that Barack Obama will be sworn in as the 44th president of these United States.

Name: NdueCzon

Comment: Grace12_34, I did not imply that Rev. Wright "gave" P-E Obama his swagger or confidence. I said and still believe that Rev. Wright had a profound influence on P-E Obama and it is evident. It is not to give Rev. Wright any kind of credit or kudos. It is what it is. I believe that P-E Obama always had the fire inside of him to dare to step out on faith to help usher in a change, but I am sure that if we were all free to be honest, that something Rev. Wright said in the time of their attendance at Trinity helped to stoke that fire. Whether it is perceived as something to mimic or something to shy away from, it was an influencing factor.

Name: adifferentpath

Comment: ...... ....... if mainstream media didn't report on this we would not be having this discussion. Rev. Wright has and will ALWAYS speak his mind. I am SO positive he is not the ONLY clergy member saying some questionable things in the pulpit. The church IS that place where folks gather and discuss the Bible and the community The church IS that place where bold stances from God's point-of-view and man's come to a head and burst into an explosion or collective or new ways to deal with whatever is ailing "us" = the surrounding and/or supporting community The church IS this place. Rev. Wright's across America and the world are having some wonderful sermons on Barack's behalf. Stop sleeping. The media can beat a horse dead, then reincarnate it and make you think it never died at all. *next*

Name: huey

Comment: javone77 ---i emailed u last night...

Name: Mas90

Comment: Rev Wright is going try to bring down Barack for the next 4 - 8 years! Co-sign w/ BOOT!

Name: GingerBronze

Comment: "Wright has become an embarrassment to Trinity and to Christianity as a whole." Wright is still hurt. It's evident. He is fighting a spiritual war and going toe-to-toe with a system set up to protect the genetic survival of those people who classify themselves as white. The systematic global domination of people of color, particularly those of African descent, through economics, education, entertainment, labor, politics, religion, law, sex and war is proving to be a formidable foe to our warriors on the path of truth, justice, equality and self-determination. White supremacy is one god-damn, powerful and successful system to have ever been created and perpetuated on a conscious and sub-conscious level. I find it fascinating that the people who classify themselves as white and barely make up one/tenth of the world's population have physically, mentally and spiritually fcuked everyone else up on the planet. Even though it's painfully obvious that the people who classify themselves as white have gross feelings of inadequacy and insecurity, they have masterfully duped the descendants of the original family into believing they are inferior to the point where these subjects will war with their own (including self-deprecation) to protect the interests of their oppressors. If one knows the true history of Christianity, Wright would hardly be an embarrassment to this religion. After all, Christianity was fundamental in the spread of white supremacy and many other deceptive practices to conceal the truth about the cosmology, real power and nature of indigenous peoples. I send positive healing energy and vibrations to Rev Wright. ...and %*$! that dumb broad.

Name: katgrrrl

Comment: On the one hand, I wanna say "join the club!" A lotta people think she's a dumb broad. Her husband prolly thinks she's a dumb broad too. On the other hand, hmmm... I'd expect more (tact? restraint?) from an ordained man of God. What happened to "judge not..." So Liz said something about him. What happened to "turn the other cheek"? THAT's the behavior I'd expect from a man of God, not this. Kinda hypoChristianish of him.

Name: huey

Comment: katgrrrl ---i got it figured out...him is bombastic!!! thats it!!

Name: SweetieDarlin

Comment: It's unfortunate that Rev. Wright continues to be judged by sound bites regardless how he continues to fall into the trap and tarnishes his own legacy. He is as others pointed out human, he is capable of being sarcastic, capable of saying not so nice things about perceived enemies (remember Elizabeth had a lot to say about him as well) he is capable of baiting the press since they now want to hang on his every word although he has been around since I was a little girl in the 70s, in fact his ministry took many U.C.C. members from our Church because Trinity was more progressive. Trinity has done a lot for the community and for it's members, but no one ever talks about that, I think Rev. Wright feels since he's darned if he does, darned if he doesn't and will definately be taken out of context whenever possible he is having a free for all. Rev. Wright is not hate-filled nor would his teachings cause anyone to stay away from Church, in Chicago we know Trinity Church and it's reputation, it is one of the largest Churches in Chicago and very affluent, the members are very intelligent contrary to what is being portrayed in the media and on websites. Any since when was any minister perfect, perhaps we should look at the overall body of work instead of what he is doing now (according to the media) and if we really feel that way then we won't listen to anyone unless they are perfect regardless of the message.

Name: SweetieDarlin

Comment: WHOOOA and we are quoting Bible verses about judging and so on and if we don't do that on this site every single day, uhmm does that mean everyone is now saying they are not Christian because they are not perfect? Or can you be Christian and strive for perfection but occasionally fail....

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: McNasty - it has nothing to do with him being "human" - clearly he is that. I look at it like this. I taught school for 7 years. I always considered everything I said and did and wore very carefully because I knew I was a role model to my students. I didn't call names because it's destructive and immature. Well, unless we were playing the dozens (I was a "young cool teacher") but that was different. I never cursed at them or around them. I never laid my hands on a student - even when I wanted to slap the taste out of his/her mouth. I taught some bad-azzed lil f*ckers so it was not easy. I did my best to exhibit how an adult should carry herself in the professional world. I am no saint but I do believe that I gave those kids a positive example of how an adult behaves. I think a minister has the same responsibility - you are an example and you have to consider that when you step into the pulpit as well as in the limelight. >Musb - why the double standard? You are all mad at Obama for freakin smoking but this dude can call names? Wazup with that?

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: >Musb - regarding Caroline K, well I think she's fantastic. I think she's a great choice. She's not your typical spoiled brat Kennedy. She's a published writer and a lawyer as well. If she wasn't "a Kennedy", I think she would still be fantastic. Now her brother, may he rest in peace, would not be such a good choice to me. He was foine, ya he'ah me, FOINE but not someone I'd want in Congress. I would've wanted him on a poster in my room w/his shirt off running through Central Park glistening with sweat. I would not want him making laws. I admire it that he had his magazine but I still would choose Caroline. I think she's pretty great. As much privilege as they had, I admire Jackie for doing all she could to keep them as grounded as she could. She was successful. Caroline is quality with or without the Kennedy name. But go ahead and bash me for saying that. Go 'head! LOL

Name: SweetieDarlin

Comment: Queenie> I understand your point and good for you and your ability to maintain, some people still aren't there yet, regardless of their age or profession, perhaps they will never be. I used to judge people by what I did because I felt if I can do it everyone can, then I realized, heck folks are looking at me and the things I don't do so well (like typing on the fly and being grammically correct, spelling well and not missing words LOL) plus I was always frustrated (not saying that you are.) I can only govern me and try not to have everyone mirror my exact standards, I decided to look at the person as a whole and determine what they were about from their total actions not just bits and pieces so for me Rev. Wright in spite of his faults has done a lot as a spiritual leader. Then again as mentioned before in some of my mangled posts, I don't expect perfection even from a Minister because it is impossible for him to be perfect, he is not GOD to state the obvious, even the Minister once he is called is a work in progress as people called are told to come as they are and imperfections are eventually worked out, Rev. Wright obviously is still working LOL. I do invite you to check out some of his sermons (not the hot ones that stay in the news, he wasn't even that fiery all the time) from the past to get a better view of him.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: SD...yeah I have heard similar praise from the few Trinity members I know. Why we don't hear about the gud he does? That's easy, cuz yt folk (w/our help) deemed it irrelevant. There's an easy solution to not being subjected to a pastors fiery rhetoric...don't attend the church. Obama did..and did so for 20 years so yeah again...I'm not bothered by Wright's commentary. QB, I said I wouldn't want a POTUS who smokes cigs. Wright can smoke a pack a day and I wouldn't care. I wouldn't want a POTUS who calls women "dumb broads" in public. Wright can call women that all day. I didn't cast my vote for him. Is it a double standard? Of course it is. They do exist and unlike many, I'm not incapable of calling it so when I see it. Do I hold the POTUS to a higher standard than a pastor....uhm..yeah I do. BTW, did he say this in the puplit cuz the articles never mention "where" it was said. RE: Caroline. Uhm...it's because she's a Kennedy. There is no legislative bone in her history. But of course, becuz of her last name..she automatically qualified to be the senator of one of the largest states. Kinda reminds you of Hillary's default experience as well hunh? She's experienced becuz of her husband's last name. I don't dislike kennedy but Senator she should not be. More than nething my opposition is similar to Hillary's..enuff w/the damn dynasties. Sooner than later, we may as well just have the Clintons, Kennedys, and Bush's as King and Queen and have them make all appointments.

Name: ss69054

Comment: I have heard nothing but positive things about Trinity and Rev. Wright over the years constantly until the media tried to use their negative racist propaganda to destroy Obama and consequently Wright. I just think the man is disgusted and hurt that he had to be separated from Obama and his family. Unfortunately, it was wrong to use the pulpit to vent his anger but just as any other person people make mistakes. And as far as standards, dont never put high standards unless you cant put them on yourself. I dont care what title or status people have, please be mindful that no one is perfect and everyone who is human CAN FALL!!! I dont look at perfection in others if I myself cant hold myself accountable for those same standars. Be careful how u place someone under a microscope because if you had a chance to lead anything major and people see the most little minor fault in you, some of you would lose it and couldnt handle the pressure. But anyhows, Twenty years is a long time to be a part of a church family. During that time there I am sure there was some influence by Rev. Wright from those powerful sermons. One day I just hope that Obama and Wright would be able to talk again. For now, Wright just need to move on and keep doing God's work.

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: Musb - a lot of people who run for Congress don't have "experience" but that doesn't mean they won't be good at it. It really takes critical thinking, common sense and the ability to read to do it. Any of us could do it and do it well because we stay informed about the issues, we form opinions based on our knowledge and common sense. What's funny to me is how people in the McCain camp kept going on ad nauseum about Obama's lack of leadership experience. And all I kept thinking was that McCain ain't neva lead nuthin neither. Based on that criteria, Palin was more qualified than him and that's a colossal joke! That irritated me to no end. A lot of people run for office and they have no experience. They usually start out in the House first, though. I'll give you that Caroline gets bumped up because of her name but if she ran for a House seat I'm not sure you'd be so up in arms about it. I still think she's a fantastic choice. As for the whole President vs. Minister thing - we're gonna have to agree to disagree or we'll be bumping heads til we split them open - like "tastes great!" "less filling! etc. LOL

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: >SweetieD - I am not trying to hold myself up on a pedestal - goodness no. I think eyebrows would be raised if people knew I played "the dozens" w/my kids to the point of borrowing a "Snaps" book because I didn't know that many "yo mama" jokes. The other teachers I befriended as a teacher felt the same way about dealing with kids. It wasn't just me. We vented to each other so we wouldn't slap a child silly. The majority of teachers in all the schools I worked in (3) were good role models. It's called being a mature adult and I think most adults know better and exhibit it in general and in the workplace. That's why I get upset when I see someone act ridiculous. It really ain't that hard to follow a rule taught in kindergarten. "Name calling is bad." - it's not rocket science. Jeez. I have a co-worker who just called another "a horse's azz" and he looks like a d*mned fool for doing it because it's so immature. And I'm mature now so I didn't "tell on him" like the 8 yr old in me wanted to. LOL

Name: SweetieDarlin

Comment: Queenie> Perhaps I'm willing to give Rev. Wright a pass because I understand his actions, although admittedly he could have thought of a better approach, hurt people at times don't think about how they lash out and I still think foolishly Rev. Wright decided if you want to talk about me let me give you something to talk about. I feel sad that this is how he is allowing himself to be judged and that we are jumping right on it not seeing the man as a whole. Perhaps because I'm forever seeing people act less than professional these days, so many things I give it pass unless it is truly detrimental. I've been in the workforce since 1978 and standards have been slipping each year, not that it's right, just seemingly the way of the world. Again kudos to you for keeping the standards especially since you were in the position to influence young people---hmmm perhaps that is the difference--- IMO Rev. Wright is among grown ups so certainly at this point you can discern the appopriate behavior withour having to have an exact role model for every little thing. Anyway, I try to keep my standards heck I'm in management talking on the internet instead doing my work right now, and that is considered unprofessional LOL, Oh well I pick and chose professionalism obviously but for the records I don't call people out of their names (in front of their faces LOL) but I understand (sometimes.)

Name: katgrrrl

Comment: Sweetie, point taken. I'll bite. I AM on here...not EVERY day, but often enough, jokin' around n' name calling. But I ain't ORDAINED, lol. Queenie says that she knew that she couldn't just go up in the classroom actin' a fool. Now, if she was good enough and smart enough to know that AND act on it and set the positive example, why can't Wright? I ain't mad at him. I agree with his comment! I know he's only human n' all, but he should know that he's under a mega-microscope now. If Obama didn't win, nobody would care. But since 'Bama did win the election, those folks who ain't happy about it are just waitin' for Wright to slip so they can play the guilty-by-association card. Wright better wash his hands each and every single time he goes to the loo or next week, we'll be readin' about that and how Obama probably doesn't wash his hands either.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: Yeah there is 'tween a congressional district seat and a US senate seat. Blve me, I feel u on the whole "experience" thing. At least Palin was actually a mayor, sat on the council and was governor. Kennedy just needs to sit this out IMO. I will say this tho...if Kennedy can be considered as a viable choice based on her lack of experience...JJacksonJr must be a shoe-in. The question for me is whether "democrats" will push JJ's candidacy like they are pushing kennedys. One currently serves as a congressman..the other has never. Any guess about who'll get the biggest push from their party?

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: SD...agree w/everythign u said. Kat..at this point, Obama has run away from Wright and his church of 20yrs as far as the eye can see. Wright shouldn't have to remain silent bcz his ex-parisioner is now president. IMO WE have to stop the nonsense..not necessarily Wright.

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: >SweetieD - I guess I'm getting tired of giving people "passes". My older brother who just told my lil brother who has MS that there won't be a cure because it's more lucrative to give the medicine than to cure it/have a vaccine like Polio. How do you tell someone with a disease, "Sorry but you ain't gettin cured. Oh well."??? I was like WTF????!!!! My older bro has been given "passes" his whole life for being a f*ckin azzhole and quite frankly, I'm tired of them being given out. People need to think before they let total bullsh*t pop out their mouths. It's called having a filter and at 38 my stupid-azzed self proclaimed azzhole older brother is old enough to have one and Wright at 70 is old enough to know better, too. So perhaps you are right but right about now I want to snatch up all the passes and put them in the paper shredder. I get tired of taking the high road, too but it's the right thing to do. My lil bro told me to stay on the high road so I can push a bolder on the people below traveling on the low one. Yup. I think I'll do that. And yeah, I'm a lil hostile and angry today. You don't f*ck w/my lil bro/best friend!

Name: McNasty

Comment: SweetieDarlin on point! We cannot use ourselves as yardsticks for how we think someone else should act. The fact that he has lead this church for so many years without it becoming mainstream news speaks volumes. Not one media entity bothered to go and sit in the pews to hear for themselves the context of his preach - the snippets were enough for them to sensationalize out of this world and they never bothered to look back. That would bother me too!

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: >Musb - no, Wright doesn't have to stay silent, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't. Look at how Sharpton and Farrakhan sat in the corner with their lips zipped. I have mad respect for them for that. When I think of all the mess either/both could've started yet didn't, I am so proud of both of them for having sense enough to put their egoes in their back pockets and staying on the low. But, nah. Jesse couldn't do that and neither could this man. That press club thing was pure vanity and it made me sick. And Jesse and his big ig'nant mouth makes it difficult for his boy but he still runs his mouth. If that was my dad, I'd snatch his azz up and lock him in a room but with my dad I wouldn't have to because he has sense and knows when to talk and when to shut up. I don't know much about Jesse Jr. but I've heard good things so I hope he does get it. He definitely has the experience. And he also has name recognition. Here's one for you - would he be where he is w/o his daddy being so famous? Hmmm...

Name: McNasty

Comment: Queenie who are we to even think we have been positioned to 'pass' or 'fail' anyone? Thats where we err - thats not for us to say - all we can do is post our thoughts or opinions but a 'pass'? what the hell is that anyway? The same was said yesterday on the MV board and I thought WTF? We take too many liberties with other folks misdeeds and missteps forgetting that we all make them, we're just not public figures and the media isn't afforded the opportunity to blow them out of proportion. The fact that they are public figures makes them no less mistake proof and they prove it everyday - its some of us that need to back up off that jazz. Its good you were the check for yourself and at some quiet moment Rev. Wright might regret what he said - I doubt it cause thats what he felt and thats what he said.

Name: katgrrrl

Comment: Musb, you're right. Wright shouldn't have to remain silent... Is it too much to ask that he know that there's a time and a place? Too much to ask that he be a little more tactful? I wonder if any of the women in his congregation took offence at the word "broad"? Does he kiss his wife with that mouth, lol!

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: >McNasty - I'm sorry but saying "God d*mn America" in any way, in any context is using the Lord's name in vain and absolutely outrageous. I thought about all y'all are saying about watching Wright before I judge so I watched this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw - but it still made me uncomfortable to hear him say "God damn America" over and over and over again to make a point. I also watched for almost 4 minutes before he even made a Bible reference or talked about God. It was like a history lesson. I guess I'm used to my pastor. He pretty much stays on point and on message. Sure he gives anecdotes and talks a little about current events but he stays neutral. All he told us was to vote and exercise our right to do so. Clearly this man has a following and that's good and all, I guess but Eddie Long and Cashflow Dollar and Jimmy Falwell and Benny Hinn have one too so that really isn't a good litmus test for me. Jim Jones and Hitler had followings but that doesn't mean I want to follow them. And no, I'm not calling Wright Hitler. Let me say it again - I'm NOT calling him Hitler. I'm just saying that just because someone is charismatic it doesn't make that person right.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: QB...Obama asked us to give the Clintons a "pazz" on their abhorrent behavior during and after the campaign. As far as I can see, that's what happened. We gave an adulterous president a pazz on failing his duty to uphold the office of the POTUS. We continued the pazz when he campaigned for his wife...even though his old azz should've known better. Moreover, out of about 760 or so days during the campaign, Wright injected himself in two of them. JJackson injected himself into ONE of them. No he shouldn't be silent and neither should have Farrakhan or Wright. Unlike you, I'll give ALL of them credit for staying out of it to the extent they did when they ALL could have done or said much worse and I don't believe an ego or lack thereof has nething to do w/it (considering their penchant for provocative commentary) So my respect for them all remains intact. JJ has been a Congressman for 10 years and I'm sure his name helped him immensely. I doubt he gets the push that Caroline is getting.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: QB...are you a prude?..lol jfwu. My co-worker just said God d_amn. The statement met your criteria for blasphemy...but it didn't bother me one bit. Neither did Wright saying God D amn America. Seems like you're holding Wright to the same standard that yt folks held him to and their nonexamination of the black church. Because your pastor has a certain style..then any pastor that falls outside of that is somehow the anti-christ. No, I'm not suggesting that you believe Wright is the AC. But, you'll get nowhere fast comparing your worship to ne1 else's. It'll end up sounding like the age old "fire and brimstone/pentacostal/sthrn baptist" vs. episcopal/presbyterian argument w/one side saying their side is better or "more appropriate."

Name: McNasty

Comment: Oh okay you like clean linen sermons. I like fiery sermons and I like that I have a relationship with the church and the pastor and he has one with his flock and community. Thats a pastor that will speak truth to power and thats what Rev. Wright does. Granted when he did the press conference and a few other public appearances outside the pulpit I thought he should be smacked upside the head but Obama is President Elect now and cannot be touched by anything that the Rev. says. I have a pastor similar to Rev. Wright (no he prolly wouldn't have said God damn Amerikkka) but if the situation called for it I would have taken it like he meant it. My pastor told our congregation that he would be casting his vote for Obama, listed his reasons and let us know that he believed that there really was a higher power at work. After Jim Jones and Ghana folks ought to be more intelligent than to just follow someone blindly and then too, we will always have those that follow cause they can't lead, those that follow cause they don't want to find the way for themselves and I can't and won't take any responsibility for how they take any word. But for damn sure I don't want a 'neutral' pastor - I want one that gets down and dirty with the truth, one that will call you out when necessary. I want an educated pastor - not one that was just called and accepted because they couldn't find anyone else and Lord one that isn't stuck in the 50s with hellfire and brimstone. I go to church to feed my spirituality and to get the knowledge that I feel I need. I can't imagine sitting there for 3 hours getting a 'neutral' sermon.

Name: Taurusingr

Comment: Uhh, does J.W. have a new "column" somewhere? Like is THIS the beginning of a weekly expression" or some shyt!?? Yo J.W.! like others have stated..IT'S OVER NOW! drink yo big Black Cow!, & GTF outta here! Not that J.W. wasn't preaching the truth?, but the fact that he STILL is talking bout "old shyt"?, to me??, proves he just wanted the "spotlight"! Like "F" the obvious about Liz!!, what about the bailout, GAS, or the lack of AA's on tv!, or racism etc... I mean...if you g'on speak on something, go back to the RELEVANT shyt you spoke of b4! But hey!..in "this" country" now?, ONLY the stupid shyt gets ....."shine"! One! P.S....yall WOMEN gotta admit, there ARE broads, "B's" & the rest of those negative slurs about "females"! And not everyone who uses those terms thinks ALL are those terms! So WOMEN?....don't "own" something that really.....ain't "YOURS"! Now you "females"?....get & stay mad! LOL!!

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: >McNasty - why did I hear the same thing yesterday from Tgen - something like "who cares about my opinion" or whatever. Um, okay. Who cares about any of our opinions on here but us? Point being that we all understand that an opinion is like a ___, everybody has one, right? I get that but see, this is a message board designed for us to give our opinions so why do people on here, in this case you, feel the need to pull that out when you see fit? I don't get that. So you don't like what I say. Okay. That's your, um opinion but why tell me I can't state mine just because you don't like it? So yeah, in my world I give passes but so does everybode else. Think of it like this - you have a friend that you give passes to for certain behaviors. After awhile, you stop because you realize that friend is really a jerk so you revoke the "pass" and end the friendship. How is that any different than me saying I think dude shoulda kept his big mouth shut? All we do on here is judge people - ___ can't sing, ____ is overexposed, ____ is ugly, _____ was out of line, etc. - Come on now. Really.

Name: huey

Comment: queeniebunz ---dont worry bout it..people be getten hot up in the joint all the time...keep posting yo joints up here. i reads em if dont nobody else like what cha gotz to say. dayum whoever dont like yo post...keep posting...i couldnt give a ratz azz what someone think bout my mother effn post...but im dayum well post the he11 outtn it. eff em...

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: >Musb - me, a prude? Uh, no. I have certain standards I live by and one of them is to not say those two words together. And my pastor "gets down" too but not as much as some do. He's careful to not be too political in the pulpit. He pretty much said he's a supporter of Obama but he said he didn't care who you vote for but do vote since it's a right we didn't always have. Some pastors give opinions and encourage their congregations one way or another, others don't. He chooses not to. He's also cool enough that I sent him an e-mail telling him and others that I wanted him to vote for Obama for my birthday (10/28). He wrote me back and said I'll get my present. LOL

Name: katgrrrl

Comment: ^ Hear, hear! This is why I love comin' to Eur. Not NEARLY as much for the articles as for the comments!Sometimes we agree, sometimes we agree to disagree. It's all good, is it not? <> TAURUS, STFU! LOL! "females...get & stay mad!" What's a BROAD!? My hips are broad, but what is A broad? I couldn't OWN broad if I wanted to. I don't get how BROAD applies to bein' a woman unless it's about the width of her hip/booty/head or what have you. While I'm at it, what is a DYKE and how does that apply to a women who fancies other women? How'd a FAG go from bein' a cigarette to bein' a man who likes other men!? C'mon TAURUS! You over-SHIFT-key-usin' mthafka! LOL!

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: >huey - I'm 36 years old. I'm old enough to be comfortable in my skin and I'll say what the f*ck I want when the f*ck I want and I don't give a f*ck who f*ckin likes it and who the f*ck doesn't. So, f*ck yeah, I'm gonna keep posting on the mu'f*ckin site. I'm in a f*cked up mood today and the word f*ck works for me today. Tomorrow maybe I'll be the prude Musb thinks I am. Today, f*ck it, not gonna be that.

Name: McNasty

Comment: Queenie no where in any of my post here today do I even intimate that your opinion isn't valid. I've never said 'who cares what you think' I also didn't say 'I don't like what you say'. Girl, Imma let this go cause you've gone to left field on me. Also, as for those 'passes' why would I see a friend funkin' up and let it go? If you're kickin' it with me you've got to be right - you've got to know how to represent so bad behavior is checked right then. No pass no fail - straight friendship. If I thought your opinion wasn't valid I would never have responded. You like so many others today have every right to say he should just be quiet - I just happen to believe that if its on your mind to say - say it. You have a good evening and if you're of a mind - please check my posts cause you got a sistah twisted! Peace and hairgrease!

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: >Katgrrl - I can't even read Taurusingr's sh*t - makes my eyes cross. "Broad" dates Wright. That's what they called chicks back then when he was, like, young. Before that I believe it was dame. My brother calls women broads and it's kinda funny to me since he's only 33 and wasn't even alive when broad was the popular way to be degrading to women. LOL. The word broad doesn't bother me. Me and my ma are a lil odd. We greet each other on the phone by seeing who can call the other the worse name for a loose woman. So far we've got trick, slut, tramp, whore, strumpet, harlot, Jezebel, streetwalker, and hooker. Can you suggest anymore for the next time I call her?

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: >McNasty - when you said "who are we to even think we have been positioned to 'pass' or 'fail' anyone?" - that is what I was referring to. It seemed similar to what was said to me yesterday. You don't see the similarity?

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: *explosively spitting out caprisun* LMAO@Kat's SHIFT-Key-using mthfka!!!! LOLOLOL. Now that was some Richard Pryor shyt right there! QB..yeah I think if nobody else WE need to understand how black folk just worship differently. Considering all you and others said about Wright (most of which isn't gud)..is not the amazing part of that while we're talking about how we wouldn't dare attend a church like that...Barack Obama did and did so for 20 years? His "kind" attended the church..lol Wild hunh? I've called you goody2shoes b4 so sit down somewhere woman.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: QB...I didn't see that in 'Nas' statement but u being on the receiving end, I can c how u would understand it that way. The two aren't similar IMO.

Name: Taurusingr

Comment: katgrrrl: Haaaaaay baby! I just HAD to mess with that "predictable" female! She's so damn "predictable" as ALL females are! LMAO! But what it do ?, boo!?? sml!

Name: Taurusingr

Comment: katgrrrl: And BTW? (over shifting mo fo!?).... YEP! I be that! LOL!!!

Name: Taurusingr

Comment: katgrrrl: And again...I was talking to the WOMEN about the "females"! So...why wouuuuuuld "you" own it! Unless........??? LOL!!

Name: Taurusingr

Comment: katgrrrl: BTW again...having wide hips & thangs?...is a HELLA good thang lady! So, don't you go on a damn diet for shyt! LOL!!!

Name: Taurusingr

Comment: katgrrrl: Are you in Cali?

Name: katgrrrl

Comment: LMAO! Why am I sittin' here crying now!? McNasty talkin' 'bout "you gone to the left field on me." and Queen talkin' 'bout how readin' Taurus' stuff makes her eyes cross... LMAO! Love y'all! "Broad" DOES take me back to when women had "moxie" n' wore those olde tyme, neck-to-knee striped bathing suits, lol. <> Queen, there's a Brit slang word for a ho, it's "slag." Maybe you can throw that in next time you call your ma. My cousin's always calling Madonna a trollop, lol.

Name: katgrrrl

Comment: Taurus, ya cooooool as a polar ice cap, bruh. That's why I can joke witcha like that. And I AM on a diet! Not today though cos I was on one yesterday. I only diet every other day...cos the following day is alllllll about rewarding myself for bein' good the previous day. :) I ain't in Cali. I'm in Noo Yawk where it's okay to be fat! Fk some wheat grass juice!

Name: TGen

Comment: Wow, a lot of posts. It's the end of the day, but I just have to clear up a couple things before I depart, lol. Queenibunz, 1) Wright didn't use God's name in vain. The context he used "damn" in was as a verb, ie God [should] bless America vs. God [should] damn America..for its bad deeds towards under countries (he was trying to explain the 9/11 attacks and 2) I did NOT say "who cares about your opinion" in the context of the posts here! The issue was JURY DUTY. I said that it doesn't matter what you "Think" in terms of judging a criminal case, it only matters what is proven by the prosecution. Hope that clears up things for you.

Name: musbdherbs

Comment: LMAO...its time for a time out. that sounds like a Monique joke ret dere.

Name: Taurusingr

Comment: katgrrrl: Noo Yawk? Ok! cool! sml! All I can say lady is...ain't NOTHING wrong with a little...."soulfood" on the plate! Holla! LOL!!

Name: Taurusingr

Comment: katgrrrl: BTW again?...I'm always cool with "women"! It's dem damn FEMALES that "f" it up for.....everyone! LMAO!

Name: katgrrrl

Comment: Musb! CAPRISUN!? What ARE you...TWELVE!? How ya like my Taurusinian usage of the capage? ;)

Name: ladybyrd

Comment: Ummm... Is Reverend Wright really a pastor or is it JUST in title only! His language is unwarranted and as a man of God, who has been chosen, he sould know better. Tone it down Reverend!

Name: ladybyrd

Comment: musbdherbs> It's been a while Herb, but J. Jackson a shoe in, now you know I was going to post. Are you on crack?? The same Jackson that dogged Bararck on the FoxNews all while using the "N" word. Even his son was embarrassed that he had to denounce his own father. The same man who stepped out on his wife while making a mockery of his cause. J. Jackson time has passed, we don't need that. I think he should look at the new & up incoming diversed Americans, J. Jackson get the hell out of here! peace

Name: bigchassie

Comment: MY WORD!!!!!!

Name: ss69054

Comment: McNasty: did you say 3hours???? Lol!!! Whew girl I would have a good nap on that pew. That's a long time to be in church. Service at my church is 1:15.

Name: Harriet

Comment: Elizabeth has referenced Rev. Wright as a non-patriotic, a Marxist, a communist, a hate-monger and everything but the child of God and there is a news story on him referencing her as a "dumb broad." I have called her much worst and have the utmost respect for Jeremiah Wright. I like a person who says what they mean and mean what they say. And like Mother said, he held his tongue in check while the Senator was on his bid for the White House. We now have president-elect Obama and Jeremiah Wright can pretty much say what the fock he wants to say.

Name: SweetieDarlin

Comment: Ladybyrd, Musbd was talking about Jesse Jackson JR, not Sr. that would be a shoe in. Tgen thank you for pointing out that Rev. Jerimiah Wright was not taking the Lord's name in vain, I was about to post the same thing. I wish people would do research, NO Rev. Wright isn't a honorary pastor, nor is he a jacklegged preacher, please look up Trinity Church in Chicago, and get the credentials, and the history, man people and the media WHEW!

Name: BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN

Comment: My oh My, this has been a very busy time in the Sandlot today! hehehehehe. Preachers are Preachers, some better than other's. Most 80% correct on the life we live and how we are living it. No matter how you slice it folks, Rev's Wright/Sharpton/Jackson have been dead right on a lot of the issues facing folks in these days and times. However, I truly believe that Our New President, didn't replace his teachings with him in whole. He will always respect that aspect of being within his Congregation! Now... As for Miss Liz, the $itch is you Nasty! Look up the word "Straight Stupid" and you will find at least 9, 8X10 pictures of her. She's not welcomed in the Sandbox!

Name: ladybyrd

Comment: Harriet> Pastors has a calling. They are not suppose to be like you and I. They were called by Christ, so I was told as a child. So I expect more from Reverend Wright, but I think he has let the street change him, instead of him changing the street.

Name: ladybyrd

Comment: SweetieDarlin> Thanks for the correct between Jr. & Sr. I'm sorry to tell you but it's Wright you decided to go on a media tour during the campaign and after. I think he likes the attention that he's getting. The church itself has done wonderful work for the communities & black colleges respectfully. I think everyone on the board knows that about him, unfortunately as of late that has been overshadowed by his rants. <shrugging shoulders> Personally, I wish he would take a break or those close to him who is not into drama need to pull him to the side, instead of flaming the fire.

Name: ladybyrd

Comment: musbdherbs> He probably didn't think Wright would act a fool. He probably thought that he would have some class and dignity. Usually, that what you want from your Pastor.

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