Sat, Nov 21, 2009
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Name:
Teigh
Comment: pleaz...interesting what folks do with their five minutes. Christopher did nothing to Kim that she didn't allow. It's ancient history, and Violetta is not responsible for her sons behavior. Let it go let it go let it go!!!
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Folk forget that Kim and Biggie were tangoin' long before Faith came on the set. He just upped and married Faith, but Kim was there long time. BET had a nice piece on Biggie last night. "Bigger Than Life." I felt the same way that I felt when my former sister-in-law woke me up at 7 am to tell me they killed the big one. Sadness on what could have been. 'Cause I know even to this day, throw on one of Big's tracks and ya head start to bouncin' and your ears start to perk up, because his wordplay was insane.
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huey
Comment: MOTHERSHIP --i concur, that was a great peice last night that bet did on biggie. probably better than what the movie will be.
as far as biggie as a rapper, i never thought he was a great rapper. i thought he was very good and did a good job of presenting street life as his saw it and interpreted it through his eyes, and his flow was extremely tight in the way he delivered it with that kinda nasely flow. but i never saw him as lyrical genius per se. jmo. i thought pac was a more provacative lyricist. u know that comparison must be made. kinda like michael jackson and prince lol. like bacon and eggs, like white tube socks and flip flops.
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Huey, Pac was a whole 'nother element unto itself. BIG was a master storyteller, as you pointed out representing and tellin' the story from what his perspective and experiences were. He did him and the world felt his spirit. Pac was a beacon, sent here to let the world know this is what it is. They both were gemini's but masters at the differences of who they be. Speakin' for myself, both are sorely missed. I loved my 'Pac, though, brother of my own heart. He still here though, be easy, look around, y'all still feel him.
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BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: when I hear him I remember the short big kid on the corner of Franklin Ave and Fulton Street hustling tickets between the Shuttle Train and the A Train. That's a ways back. He had to be about 9 or 10 then. Glad His Mom wants to sit down and talk with Kim. If anything she will really understand the relationship that they both had. When Biggie died, Kim was so distraught. It really took her some time to get it together.
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huey
Comment: uhhhh,,,i should be shame to say it but if i dont no one else will, dont vonetta wallace look like martin's mama from the "martin" show in that picture. when he use to put on that wig and jump around and scream.
and how come she look like she used a whole jar of vaseline on her face? now there, i said it.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...I just keep thinking what Chris Rock said 'bout 'em..."Those ni&&as didn't get asa$$inated...Those ni&&as got shot"...LMBAO!!!!!!....On a serious side...I saw the BET special last nite...It was well done...I really don't know Lil Kim is gonna say to Biggie's mom..."Yeah, the fat muthafuccer fucc'ed me around"....but I still loved him"....
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McNasty
Comment: Lil Kim was sleeping with him and Faith was his ride or die - how should she have been treated and she knew that already?! How you act is how you're treated cause I'm sure every time she saw Faith she was skinin' and grinin' in the girls face!
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McNasty
Comment: Huey I was thinking she looked more like Amy in the movie Congo!
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musbdherbs
Comment: This is sure to be one of the most inconsequential movies of 2009. A movie about biggie smalls. A consistent, sexually/violently explicit rapper/ex-drug dealer from the burroughs of NY. If there was any significant positive impact he had before his death, I've yet to read it. I liked the music...nothing more.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ....First off, huey and Mc ya'll wrong for talking 'bout that man's mama like that...He's dead yo...mus, you wrong too 'cause Biggie did have an impact on the lives of countless young men who...who...who...Well you liked his music...
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thechocolate10
Comment: Hey mothership!!!!!!!I loved the documentary last night and i dont even watch BET but I caught the one at midnight.
they make movies about a lot of random stuff birds, bees, musicians, people who can fly whatever.
I am glad they did a movie about Biggie. As a girl from the Stuy he definately represented in the rap game. Even his peers recognized that.
really its just a movie and lil entertainment/
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6footah
Comment: Question from a woman with no children...what is it about a mother that thinks their children can do no wrong?
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NYCsoul
Comment: I'm surprised that Ms. Wallace wants to set down and talk to Kim. She was not very kind to her in her book. Since she didn't follow too much what her son did, she didn't know as much as she thought she did. I still can't figure out why this is a movie, though. *shrugs*
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PgDn
Comment: Was the way he treated Kim another case of of choosing to wife the light skinned chick over the one who hung in there with you from jump (who just happened to be darker)?
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imtalking
Comment: ms wallace just don't want lil kim airing out her dirty laundry like lil kim said she was. Biggie probably used to talk to kim about the personals. Now ms wallace is really realizing how close they were. Air her OUT kim, she been talking too much about you and Pac!
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DCGG
Comment: Oh bytch pulease you knew damn well your son wasn't shyt, ya knew he beat on woman, ya knew he sold drugs, how the fuvk you gonna sat here and act like he's some damn saint. Lil Kim been talking bout biggie fuvkin her up for years...
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MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Hey, Chocolate! Happy New Year to ya! 6footah, those are the same parents whose kids grow up and turn around and whip their azzes. Seen it time and again.
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katgrrrl
Comment: Forgot what I was gonna say when I read McNasty's Amy from Congo comment. Brrrr, that's some cold stuff right thurrrr.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >6footah - I don't have kids either but I know I'm protective of and defensive of my brother the same way mothers are with their children. I think families are protective of their kin. It's not just moms. You just are because you know your child / sibling / relative has a good heart and has a kind way about him/her and that's the side you see so it's the side you focus on. I have a cousin who does some foul sh*t but I know why he's all f*cked up and how it has led to the bad decisions he has made and unfortunately continues to make. I know that he has a gentle side that he shows me. It doesn't excuse or dismiss his actions/deeds but I do care about him despite his messy life. On another note, I really don't understand why this movie is even being made. I bought his last double cd and it's nasty. The 2 songs I bought it for are off the hook but he has an interlude where he actually talks about defecating on a woman. NASTY. That is not someone I want to hold up as any kind of example. I think his beats were good and his lyrics smooth but vulgar.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Kat/McNasty - I was like, did McNasty just call Mama Smalls a gorilla. Yup. Sure did. LOLOLOL!!! When I heard about this on the radio a couple days ago and saw the article on here I thought to myself that she is really just trying to stay in the public eye and stay relevant for some strange reason. If my son was like this dude, I'd keep my mouth shut and stay incognegro.
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thechocolate10
Comment: 6footah> in normal cases of parents thinking their children can do no wrong im sure the parent is giving their child the benefit of the doubt example like not sharing toys, back talking but in serious cases like robbery, murder it could be denial.
jmo
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Don't try and sugarcoat it queenie by using defecate on a woman...Biggs wanted to sh1t on a female...Now why a movie is made 'bout a muthafuccer who wants to sh1t on a woman is beyond me...Now maybe Biggs mama wanted to ask lil Kim if her son ever shi--defecated on her...
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BecuzICan
Comment: 6footah >>>> That is a sick, twisted mother/son thing. These women fall in love with their sons (not all, some) and worship the ground they walk on and think they can do no wrong. My sister calls her son her "man" and my best friend calls her son "the king". I'm VERY protective of my daughter but I damn for sure don't think the sun rises and sets on her!
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Angel
Comment: Musb - But are you going to go see it? **pulling out tix and waving in yo face** LOL
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DCGG
Comment: 6Footah that's usually single woman and there's no male presence in the home, one of my neighbors like that...son is 35 years old, 4 kids, live at home and doesn't work, yet the sun sets and rises in his trifaling azz...it's a really weird and unhealthy fuvked up relationship, she has men that are interested but she will not see them because it's like she's married to her son foreal.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Hell to the naW! Stop playing w/me. Certain shyt just don't interest me..this is one..lol I'm already made that Jay-z got the got damn nerve to be charging 500 got damn dollars for his DC concert next week. Fkng SHAME!
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queeniebunz
Comment: >musb - so you are in favor of P-Diddy/Puffy/Diddy and his announcement that he's gonna tone down his bling because the economy is bad and he doesn't want to rub his economic success in us po folks' faces? Followed by a cologne called "I Am King"...LOL
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Stephanie
Comment: I've been reading tid bits of Faith's new book on the Panache Report and she is trying so hard to be such the victim. Everybody had an issue with her because they were jealous and how she caught Lil Kim and Biggie in the bed together and beat Lil Kim's azz, Mary J was hatin on her, Missy used her. Lil Kim did an interview and pretty much put Biggie's mom and Faith on blast. Biggie and Tupac were both good rappers with so much potential and it was greed that killed them both. I will die believing Suge Knight was responsible for both of their demises but its been almost 13 years and no one has stopped living because of them.
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whynotme
Comment: -->musbdherbs please tell me you are joking about jay z's tickets?
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Angel
Comment: $500?! Does that ticket come with a bailout plan? At leat an IPhone, right? LOL
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musbdherbs
Comment: lolQB..i think it's dumb. If I had mad guap, I would give a damn about the economy and spend my money as far and wide as it'll stretch. WTF? It's like me not shopping cuz it'll offend folks who can't. That ain't my problem..lol. I gotta check the i am king. I liked unforgiveable..but then it started to smell wrong after i put it on. It's one of those colognes. WHYNOT...500 is the cheap tickets. they go up to $800. WTF!!!!!!
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musbdherbs
Comment: WTMFKNBSIT!
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NYCsoul
Comment: Stephanie> I read some exercepts from Faith's book and that's not the impression that I got. From what she wrote, she said she didn't know why MJ stopped speaking her nor did she know that Kim was messing with Biggie. She stated she liked Kim alot and never thought twice that there was something going on between Kim and Biggie. It seemed to me that Faith wasn't trying to be a victim but she seemed to come across as extremely naive and trusting when she hooked up with Biggie. Basically, she did not have that 'street' mentality.
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bigchassie
Comment: All i can say is Dayum on this one!
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Musb - Okay, why did you remind me of a situation I was in last year!? I was on the phone w/this dumb azz I stupidly loaned money to and I was basically bragging about this $150 silk Ralph Lauren skirt I got for like $25 at Macys. (I don't brag about how much I spend on something to say I have a lot of money. My friends and I like to brag about how much of a deal we got on clothes/shoes. "I got this $250 suit for $94!" and all that...) But anyway, she got quiet as I went on about the great after Christmas deals I was taking advantage of and it hit me later that she was upset that I could shop til I dropped but she couldn't because her dumb azz let the chick she was dating (long bizarre story) go through her money to the point where she was about to lose her house and asked me for money to save it. So I guess I did what you said and kinda rubbed her nose in it unintentionally. As for buying cologne from that fool - go for it. If you want to smell like panther p*ss like dude from "Anchorman" knock yourself out but just let me know so I can avoid the venues you frequent. LOL
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Southernbelle
Comment: LMAO @ McNasty, Girl you're wrong for that! "Amy from Congo". >6footah, True, there are a lot of parents that hold their kids to a higher regard than they deserve. But, if momma don't have your back who else can you rely on. Balfour's momma will scream to the heavens that William is innocent even if they have him on video committing those murders. I believe in their hearts they know the truth but they wanna be the strength their kids need to survive or they just refuse to admit that they raised some f$#%ed up kids.
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lovebites
Comment: Mcnasty you are funny. Amy from Congo. i remember that movie with Ernie Hudson.
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Angel
Comment: Southern - Maybe if some of those mommas had given their "babies" a swift kick in the azz from jump, there would be no need for them to look like idiots defending these folks now because they wouldn't be in trouble. LOL
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McNasty
Comment: Katgrrrl, Queenie, Southernbelle and Lovebites - Happy New Year Y'all!lmbao
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Mas90
Comment: Volleta talking to Lil Kim- "Honey, I didn't know. [reaching out to touch] I didn't know, baby. Someone should've told me but [pointing to herself] I didn't know you were his ho! You've should told me. You should've called me. Hold on... [reaching for pocketbook] you got my number? Here let me write it down. You called me cause ho's need mother love too! Aiight baby.... aiight."
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Mas90
Comment: RE: Jay-Z.... well, if you guyz didn't give him the big head about being ALL THAT then he wouldn't be able to charge 500 tickets. He ain't all that!
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Stephanie
Comment: NYSoul...really??? It just seemed liked from what I read, she was pretty naive and always the victim. I don't know but the whole situation is just sad...I'm going through the same thing with my stepson. He's 27, lost his job (got fired) and my husband enables him to be useless. My good friend is a therapist here at my job and she gave me some advice so if I come back telling you guys I'm getting a divorce, you'll know why! LOL Lately, its the little things he (my stepson) has been doing that's pizzing me off and my husband has an excuse for him every time. I asked him this morning to go get money out of the bank with my ATM card for the cleaning ladies and he said he couldn't because he was going to the gym and didn't know when he'd be back! OMG...so today I plan on having a long time with him and hubby because I'm fed up!!! I just refuse to go to work everyday to take care of a grown azz man...he took my husband's car to get serviced and it came to $22 and my husband gave him back the money and the MF took it. I had to go to choir rehearsal heated because my husband didn't see a problem with him taking the money because he doesn't have a job!
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ladybyrd
Comment: I'm glad that she's reaching out. I think that is a good move. EUR board is so negative & messy.
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Southernbelle
Comment: Hey Nasty, Happy New Years to you too. @ Angel, don't you wanna do like Bernie would say "Beat em till the white meat show" LOL. Come on ladybryd, you know how we do it. It's all in good fun. But, you're right maybe Mama Wallace can right some of Biggie's wrongs by at least acknowledging her son's mistakes.
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ss69054
Comment: Jay Z know he needs to quit with this $500 ticket crap. You ate not that serious. Furthermore, I would not me putting any claims on that gorilla azz looking Biggie. Cmon now, how pathetic you are going to get. I wonder when Charlie Baltimore will come out and whine how she was excluded from the picture.
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katgrrrl
Comment: McNasty et al, have a happy, healthy, blessed, safe, and fun New Year and many more. <> Musb: I thought Jay retired from rap? Who else is on the bill? Bey? Destiny's Child reunion? James Brown must be comin' back from the dead to perform in that show for some $500-$800! Nah, I can't imagine what kinda show I'd pay five- to eight-hunned for. $75 is my limit and the ONLY act I can think of that I'd pay to see is Jamiroquai...again! They more than live up to the JAM in their name.
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butterpecanrican
Comment: musbdherbs: agreed.
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Calidee
Comment: Before Ms. Wallace talks to Lil Kim, she needs to publicly apologize to her. She said a lot of cruel things about Lil Kim. People let it slide because she was a grieving mother.
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ladybyrd
Comment: In my opinion, she doesn't need to do a public appology, just one to Lil' Kim
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musbdherbs
Comment: LOL@QB...my mom told me that I shouldn't be out spending money that I may need since people are out there struggling. I told her "do you know how long I've been waiting for a 60% off sale?"...lol I don't buy shyt that's not onsale and i walked my black azz up into tyson's feeling like a kid marveling at willy wonka's chocolate factory while whistling "Who can take a sunrise/Sprinkle it w/dew/Cover it with chocolate and a miracle two/The candy Man/Oh, the candy man can/cause he mixes it w/love and makes the world taste good!" *realizing that a man really shouldn't be talking about sales and shopping* cough...lol
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DOne
Comment: 6footah, DCGG and Becuzican, already touched on it; with some mothers it isn't that their kids can do no wrong, but that their sons can do no wrong. I'm observed that some women will ride their daughters day and night, but give their sons a pass. There's some truth in the old saying that "mother's raise their daughters, but love their sons".
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musbdherbs
Comment: BTW, everybody in DC is price gauging that weekend..even the hotels. I don't think this is Jay deciding to charge this amount moreso than it is the people here organizing who feel as if they can get that much for it. Even ticketmaster is in on it. They're charging a $48 convenience fee. So yeah..everybody's gauging...and should be ashamed for doing it... But, I guess I would too...
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Calidee
Comment: >>Lady
The reason I think it should be done publicly is because the things she said about Lil Kim were said during interviews.
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Exmun
Comment: I've never understood why anyone thought that the Biggie Smalls 'personal' story was anything to talk about. They way some of the die-hards talk you'd think this dead man was running for sainthood. He had a few hits. Said some things that many of us liked to hear. Said a lot of vulgar and unspeakable things on record that when you get down to it cannot be ignored. He was a good rapper, perhaps among the best wordsmiths. But let's keep it real... a biopic on Biggie's 'life' story... uhm... no thanks.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Ex..and I Tupac story is none the better..lol Thuglife got his azz killed and people still celebrate him like he's jesuschristsuperstar.
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Name:
oldschoolbrother
Comment: I am sorry for at first lurking but here is my comment since it is okay for me to voice a opinion on this. The music of Big and Tupac to me was okay, nothing earth shattering and definitely not as uplifting as some of the great jazz artists I tend to listen to. If some of you want to make this man out to be a saint (he sold crack and possibly destroyed families in the process), his lyrics (though I am not a perfect person myself some of the songs have disgusting lyrics to them) I just cannot become interested in any movies about Big or Tupac. Just not my thing. Sorry.
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Yawn...Sigh...who gives a sheet? I mean are there really people whose lives were so impacted and transformed that this is significant?
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Mas90
Comment: Re: The impact of biggie: He only was looked up to by ghetto, black males, young preferably, who pushed rock instead of getting a regular job like everyone else, workign their way up the pay salary latter.
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McNasty
Comment: Biggies mom needs to just let sleeping dogs lie! Lil Kim, in the grand scheme of things isn't important and prolly wouldn't remember what the woman said anyway and if she does she should think about how she carried herself at the time. But for this movie errythang about this man is dead and way past stinkin' and it should be left that way. As a JW she shouldn't be looking for this kind of attention anyway.
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Zumbagirl
Comment: Stephanie: Whatever you do, don't give your ATM and pin # to the unemployed stepson. I've had relatives (read mothers) wiped out by trusting other relatives with ATM access. Don't do it, girl!
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BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: Big' Mom talking to Kim? Hmmmmm... let's all remember that She is a devote Joh-Hov-ah Witness! When Biggie was on the corners selling/hustling, she was on the opposite try to make you join her and her co-believers with stuffing Watchtower pamplets in your hand! So in my opinion there is just nothing to talk about! Just because Faith had the seed, don't take and blow Kim out of the whole ordeal of his regular being! All of them Uckers made serious dough off of Big! So in my opinion, just show up, buy some popcorn and enjoy the Movie... Then take your enterprising A$$'s home! He's not coming back! I sometimes wonder exactly where he would be if he had lived! Well for sure you know you can't ask Puff! Puff would still be riding Biggie as if he was largest float in the Macy's parade!
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Name:
princessdrre
Comment: I remember a "documentary" on Vh1 back in the day that showed "old" video footage of Big talkin' to Lil' Kim through a car window. He said "something" that she didn't like and Lil' Kim decked him through the window. Big then told somebody to "drive the hayl off - she crazy...." You can't treat your "gurl" any kinda way and not have it eventually come back on ya. Faith was not the "ride or die" - Kim was. Faith was actually Kim's "friend" - Faith was the ...um..."dirty one" - but truth be told - so was Biggie. Durrty!
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Name:
Justconcern
Comment: imtalking spoke my thoughts exactly?????
Why Mrs Wallace do this 100 degreee turn
all of a sudden?????? 4 years Little Kim
been the scumb of the earth!!!!! Is it b/c Little Kim said in a recent interview
that it is time 4 Mrs Wallace 2 b expose???????????????????????????????????
Far as treatment he didn't treat his wife
Faith Evans right either. I got her book
and she talks all about how he cheated on her right from the start of their marriage, and how he wouldn't come home for days etc. I don't know what he had but Faith was beating womens down behind Biggie, when she should of as she said at the end of her book been beating him down not the womens. I'm still trying 2 C what her or little kim saw in him, 2 make them fight over him!!! I DON'T GET IT!!!!!!!
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