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Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Whoopi was about to truly light that azz up!
Name: BigPauley
Comment: Now we know why NBC didn't want this ttrashy white beeyotch on the air. Also, I guess she never heard the old adage that one drop of black blood makes you black. There is one thing I'd like to see in common with Ann Cooulter and Hitler: BOOK BURNING!!! We can start by burning this crap she wrote. Ann Coulter is a one-trick, trick-a$$ pony that needs to just curl up and die somewhere. She is bad for America.
Name: Brandon
Comment: As conservative and controversial as Ann Coulter is - she was correct in everything she said. I have long said that Obama, Alicia Keys, Halle Berry, Shamar Moore and others diss their mother's White side of the family. The truth is, they're all bi-racial. Certainly society will try to place them "in a box" and force them to choose, but just as Tiger Woods never dissed his mother's heritage, they shouldn't either. I will admit it's each person's perogative, but if I was the parent of one of them, I'd be insulted and hurt. As for the single mother comments Ann Coulter made - she was right about that too. According to the latest census 74% of ALL Black children born in this country are born to single-parent homes, and 52% of ALL White children are born to single-parent homes. By sheer numbers, it's absolutely true that most of the criminals in prison today are products of single-parent homes.
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Brandon, I know of a lot of people who are a product of single parent homes who aren't in jail. Whoppi Goldberg's daughter ain't in the prison system. Coulter is fulla shyt. Plain and simple. While Coulter was at it, she should also note that Palin's teenaged daughter just birthed a kid, her azz ain't married, so that makes her a single parent.
Name: Dean32
Comment: Ann works the system and gets paid for it, bottom line.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: Brandon, I'm sure that the parents of these celebrities don't feel the way you and Ann Coulter does. Especially if they were raised by their white mothers. And why do you think it is that these mothers who are white did not have their children with white men? Why did they date black men? Before you blame the child, you need to talk to their mothers to see what THEY were thinking when they bedded this black man with no protection. As they were growing up, what do you think these white women were telling their "bi-racial" children? Also, please see the authors of the one drop rule. Unfortunately, we are judged by the colors of our skin. When you see Obama coming towards you, what do you see? or Halle? or Alicia? You see their darker skin tones and America is so superficial that it judges all of us by the color of our skin. And the single mother thing, I would beg to differ. I am a single mother of two. One son in A student in college and one straight A student in public school. We don't have the numbers for the crimes committed by the wealthy because they buy silence and other dispositions for those. I concur Big Pony, she is bad for America and all those who think like them. Cicumstances alters cases and change the circumstances of those who are committing the crime (equal opportunities) and you will see a different set of circumstances. Brandon, do you think that Bernie Madoff is "better" than the dope dealer on the street? Who is Bernie Madoff's parents, and he has committed a crime of deception and lies to the tune of $50 billion. Now you need to break it down to sophisticated criminals and not so sophisticated criminals because last I looked, every racial group in this country has committed crimes. Because of the "fear" of the black man in America (after they enslaved and committed arocities against his manhood and humanity now they are "afraid" but not to afraid to enslave them, but I digress) made to look like he is the most vicious animal on the planet. That's how Ann sees the world and the world needs us to be stupid and afraid because this way we are so desperate to fall for the lies and deception. Ann Coulter? Trick please . . . go eat a mayonnaise sandwich spreading this crap. Don't make excuses for this bigoted self-hating broad. When you love yourself, you look for the love in others. Conversely, when you hate yourself, you look for the negative in others. This race talk is getting so old. Thank God the young generation is not buying into this.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: Sorry BigPauley, I didn't mean to call you out of your name. One more thing Brandon, did you ever hear the parents of these celebrities complaining? Why should they be hurt when these white women CHOSE to have a baby by a black man? Don't you think they could have CHOSEN to have sex with a white man if that is what they WANTED to do? You said: I will admit it's each person's perogative, but if I was the parent of one of them, I'd be insulted and hurt. Seems to me Ann has taken issue with these mothers who are white like her have accepted the black culture in a way that Ann never would or could. So, No,Ann is not right about anything. When you have children, you love them and they bring you joy and pride. How can the mothers be insulted when it was the mothers who laid down with the black man? Also, probably because they know their racist WHITE side would never accept them? How about that?
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: @MOTHERSHIP -- AND the baby grandma on the father's side (Mother of Levi) just got busted for drugs. OMG!!! What is the world coming to when a white teenager gets pregnant and a white grandmother has gotten busted for drugs. What is this world coming to???
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Realuv, for Meth at that. Man puleeze. Like Whoopi said, that's her act. She can dish it but she can't take it. She's lucky ain't nobody bust a cap in her azz yet, but the year just begun.
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Realuv, Bernie also ripped off his own damned sister. Ol' girl tryin' to sell her house now in order not to be homeless because she can't afford the $115,000 a year to live on the golf course. Her lovely brother robbed her outta 3 mil and they were raised by both parents.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: realuvbaby, they know good and well that's it's the white community that usually shun their biracial offspring and that's why their white mothers encourage them to identify as black. Another thing...whites have nothing to fear from biracials because no matter what they are predominantly pro-white underneath it all. Blacks are used by them to gain footholds because they know many of us are all too eager to exalt and elevate them whereas whites are not.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: Folks research Marc Dreier. He's the lawyer that ripped off $100 million and was busted the week before Made-off. This type of swindling is nothing new.
Name: ss69054
Comment: I need a voo-doo doll and a pin for Ann Coulter everytime she opens her trap. While providing these findings she didn't bring much accurate background information for her conclusions Halle Berry herself said in an interview that her mother told her as a child that she is a black girl with a white mother and she said she was comfortable with that. Our Prezzie claims the same as well. Tiger Woods has some issues with who he is; while a great golfer I think he doesn't accept neither heritage. He calls himself a "cablanasian". Ok where is the Caucasian when your mom is Asian and dad is Black?? Just saying.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: MOTHERSHIP AND MELODY: Oh, I know all about the lies perpetrated by these mofos DAILY. And that they get away with it daily in the world is CRIMINAL in and of itself. Madoff. Dreier. Ha! Liars and swindlers and got the nerve to talk about black folk. We've got our own issues, but we know about them. We don't need nobody to tell us because they don't tell the truth anyway. That's why I don't like their numbers. As far as Ann and Brandon and the like goes: How can you tell me about the SPECK in my eye, when you've got a PLANK in yours. Madoff. Dreier. Exhibit A <<lmbaoo>>
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: "This" bytch here!!!! Damn!! Well, we have to remember two things in dealing with/listening to her! One?... this heffa ain't really been in anyone good graces since she said that f'up thing about John Edwards somehow being "gay" b/c he "reads"! Like being a literal person is somehow..."weak"! Well I guess so if "YO horse" was/IS a monkey who can't even peel a f'n bananna"! DUMB!!!! Two?,...& most importantly!?, she's trying to sell a damn book!!!! NOT that she doesn't think/feel the way she seems to?, but the "shock factor" is what keeps yo shyt "out there"! So, this racist,lying,bitter,outta work,just fired,damn near transparent ghost white,white trash,"meth using" BYTCH!!!, will say/do anything for that "cheese"!!! I think the best defense for these kind of people is to simply NOT give them the f'n platform they do this shyt for!, & just ignore dey as-es!!! Holla!
Name: huey
Comment: i luv it!! simply luv it!! that bytch got tagged-teamed like nobodies business up in there. kudo's to "the view" gangstresses for stripping the ignorant whore naked, and exposing her in front of the world, and kudo's for sherri for sticking up for barbra.
Name: huey
Comment: good morning brandon, fuuc you and have a nice day. what up Taurusingr, happy pre-obama inaugeration week bro!!
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: MelodyCool, I used to work for Marc Dreier before he started his own law firm. The sum is at least $368 million. What does HE have to do with this discussion???!!
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: Ok, never mind ... I just read Realuvbaby's last post.
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: Huey, I just love how ya sound! LOL! Taurus, what's swingin' playa?
Name: Brandon
Comment: Let's get a couple of things straight! First, I'm not defending Ann Coulter, I'm merely saying she's correct. Second, she never said ALL children of single parents are going to bad or destructive, of course there are always exceptions. As for the "one-drop" rule - we are supposed to be more intelligent than to subscribe to some nonsense that was stated in the South in the late 1800's to justify more discrimination and segregation (it was never a law). Also, I realize that when I look at Barack Obama or Halle Berry that look Black, but that doesn't have anything to do with how they identify themselves. Mariah Carey is also bi-racial (black father/white mother), but no one calls her Black, nor do they call her White. Instead of getting personal, let's look at the facts (and just the facts). There are more children born into single-parent homes than those born into 2-parent homes... that is a fact!
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: Anyway, re Marc S. Dreier, that bastard had me fired because of my "attitude." I would LIKE to send a lipstick print to him on a piece paper asking him how he likes being held in the slammer. I wouldn't DARE though, because the feds would want to interrogate me!!!!
Name: huey
Comment: Brandon --motherfuccer if u saying she is correct then u ARE defending her u fuucn flake...
Name: MrMarques72
Comment: I will respond to Coulter's comments on the "biracial" issue as I always have. Barack Obama's campaign proved why biracial people continue to be seen as black. Throughout Obama's campaign we saw countless examples of American racism at its finest. People don't discriminate against biracial people because of their white parent; they discriminate against the non-European ancestry that they see. White people who have sexual relations with non-white people should understand from the moment they choose to lay down with someone who is not white and procreate, they are giving up any claim their offspring may have to whiteness. That's just how it is. I have seen enough "biracial" children face racism in white environments to know this to be true. When white folks are ready to fully accept black and "biracial" people maybe then we can move beyond the issue of race. But until that day when whites are ready to give up the priviledge of whiteness, people will continue to be judged by whatever facet of their being is labeled as being against the norm. With "biracial" people, it is their non-European ancestry. With "bisexual" people it is because they have sexual relations with their same sex and not with the opposite sex that is at the root of discrimination. It's really kinda simple. MrMarques'09 www.afrobrasilamerica.com
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: Brandon, you are trying too hard when you wrote that "By sheer numbers, it's absolutely true that most of the criminals in prison today are products of single-parent homes" . . . . . there are many more whites than blacks and when people talk about our shortcomings, they like to cushion the bad news in precentages: if folks compared blacks and whites using "sheer numbers" or "raw numbers" instead of percentages, the discussions would have different conclustions
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: I'm in a violent mood today: why didn't somebody punch Coulter in her adams apple?
Name: Brandon
Comment: Wow Huey, I disgree with you - imagine that. I can agree with someone and not defend his/her actions. By the way, why do feel that profanity is warranted - Is it because I disagree with you? LOL!
Name: Brandon
Comment: HarrisThomas> No one associated single-parent homes to us. There was no mention of Black people or White people. She simply said that the majority of the criminals in prison today come from single-parent homes. Let's look at that statement - since most of the kids born in this country are born into single-parent homes, how can a logical-thinking person disagree with that???
Name: JGGIRL
Comment: Why aren't people like Ann %*$asinated?
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: HarrisThomas, I thought Whoopi was about to when she reached over!! LOL!
Name: huey
Comment: Brandon --to give any credence to this racist mysoginst bytches venom is offensive to me and to u i say, fuuc u. thats my story and im sticking to. and yes, profanity is warranted. thats huey for ya. deal with it. i aint running for mother fuucn eur office up in this sonofabytch, im just expressing myself as only huey can.
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: Brandon? on the planet Earth that I live on, it is routinely reported [whether factual or not] that the majority of people who are incarcerated are: [drum roll] black . . . . Coulter knows that people have that understanding and accept that understanding as truth so when she spoke about single parent households and jail, folks concluded that she was talking mostly about blacks even if her statements did not explictly say blacks
Name: CRENEEJ
Comment: i hate to admit, i do kind of agree with Ann and Brandon. Is Halle really that good of an actress, um HELL NO!!!!, but she'll get a role over other black actresses w/ more talent in their pinkie fingers and why???? because of her light skin. you can stand up and claim racism against yourself left and right, but i doubt very seriously that their mothers tolerated ignorance coming towards their children (like most mothers wouldn't). In terms of numbers, we're only 12%, so it's ridiculous to say that all of the black children are born to single parent households, but she does make a good point. the absence of a father does cause issues. of course there are people for whom that loss or absence isn't an issue, but that's not the majority. as much as i don't like a lot of what she says, you can't completely dismiss it. and then again if you don't like it, don't listen. she's entitled to her opinion.
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: one more thing, Brandon, your comments would garner you tons of praise over at townhall.com where the neocon wingnuts, wacos, and nutjobs luh-uve how that Coulter thingie [man in drag] perpetrates conservative punditry
Name: Brandon
Comment: HarrisThomas> ha ha ha ha ha! I'm neither conservative, nor a supporter of some of those nuts. LOL! But I do acknowledge when a person is correct, no matter what his/her beliefs. CRENEEJ is correct, Black people only comprise 12%-15% of the population, but statistically, 74% of Black children are born into single-parent homes (according to the most recent census). Ann's latest book also criticizes Michelle Obama which I think is ridiculous, so I don't support her beliefs. But she is correct with this info, and the ladies on The View took her facts to personally to remain objective.
Name: Brandon
Comment: oops, I meant "too personally"
Name: huey
Comment: Brandon--u may not be conservative nor a supporter but u dayum sho ignorant as he11, taint no doubt about that.
Name: McNasty
Comment: This woman is foolish and what I hear is more like jealousy! She mad cause what she has to identify with can in no way compare to actually having a culture? Mad cause any and all nationalities europeans came in contact with raise their voices in unison at the mistreatment suffered at their hands? Or mad that no matter how hard she tries she will never the beautiful golden hue of our bi racial brothers and sisters. I wonder too why this woman has set herself up as an authority of the black community - does she not realize that in lobbing shots at us the shat that splatters hits her peeps too? Anyway I can't get my feathers ruffled over this trick but I do wonder too why no one that claims that she's overboard and out of bounds hasn't bothered to dig into her background - force her to share exactly what makes her our moral major.
Name: CRENEEJ
Comment: and let's be clear... i'm not with her jumping all over MO, but you cannot dismiss every idea. idiots sometimes make good points. i respect her opinion, don't agree w/ it, but that's her. what's crazy is that people talked about Tiger for not claiming his blackness, but not about other bi-racials (dunno if this is the politically correct way to say it, if it offends, i apologize) who exploit it.
Name: CRENEEJ
Comment: and the ladies on the view did this for ratings. remember sherri is the same dumb%*$ who didn't know if the earth was round. elizabeth was the same person everyone was hating on a few months ago. and i don't think elizabeth had a lot of issue w/ what ann wrote, but more was talking about how ann spoke to babs.
Name: McNasty
Comment: 'Ship and it doesn't stop there cause the palin kid hasn't finished school and neither did the father of her kid. I don't know why some of you entertain this straw haired trick seriously. Its obvious she has something nasty stuck in her craw where black folks are concerned. JGGIRL it's out in the universe now so maybe, with any luck one of the liberal europeans will take a crack at her - literally!lol
Name: MOTHERSHIP
Comment: McNasty, my point exactly, but I ain't see her puttin' that nowhere in her book.
Name: Industrypro
Comment: I am not a fan of Ann Coulter but some of the stuff she is true. Obama, Hallem Alicia, etc were all raised by their white moms...because the dads left. Sure they may be half black/half white so why pound the fist,esp. Alicia, when your white mama raised you. I know in America when you are mixed you are identified as black but people ask yourself why...because during slavery days white women were seeing these mixed kids running around and did not want them to have any rights. Therefore laws were put into place to categorize them as black so they wouldn't be entitled to anything...esp. an inheritance. At the end of the day when one parent is white and the other is black you are bi-racial. Celebrate both races...damn be happy with who you are.
Name: onyxeyes
Comment: Is it me or does it seem like Brandon only shows up when there's something negative to say about black people. As for the bi-racial thing, it's only an issue when the mother is white. If the mother is black nobody seems to care. I mean Frederick Douglass and Booket T Washington were both bi-racial but .. oh wait.. it only counts if the mother is white. It's more of an issue because it's another way to bring up the black men who leave thier kids, but the white men who left and still leave thier black kids still get a pass from society. Not all of the out-of wedlock black chidlren are fathered by black men(quiet as it's kept) some white have been leaving thier babies behind as well.
Name: onyxeyes
Comment: It's not just in America that you're only identified as black either. It's like that all over the place. Having black ancestry is considered a detriment in many societies. That's why in places such as Latin America, those with identifiable black heritage are often treated with disdain and relegated to the lower classes in society. But since most Americans don't read or study about other cultures that seems to get lost on most people.
Name: Stuckinthe70s
Comment: I'd like you to ask my nephew how much contact he has had with his white side of the family?! Most bi-racial children/adults relate to their black side because of the relationships they have with the family of their black side. Its as simple as that!
Name: nightshift
Comment: She and Rev Wright would make a good team.....ship of fools!
Name: sweetpea
Comment: This woman is clearly ignorant. She doesn't have a clue like so many other caucasian people who believe her crap. Ignorance is not bliss.
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: yo, Brandon: re-read my comment about townhall.com and you will see that I did not write that you are conservative but that your views in alignment with the CONservative Coulter would be praise worthy at that site . . . . . emphasizing again, we don't know information in raw number comparisons for blacks and whites raised in single-parent homes . . . . as witnessed by the Palin family, evangelicals have single-parent situations but that does not get diss-cussed at a level of comparison in raw numbers that it deserves
Name: huey
Comment: onyxeyes --no, its not just u, which is why i toss negativity back at that rat bastard, u are not the only one to notice that he shows up anytime the subject matter has to do with the defermation of people of color and he can latch on to the oppourtunity to jump on board of whomever is spewing that venom to stir up the proverbial hatred pot.
Name: MsVanese
Comment: A stranger was seated next to a little black girl on the airplane when the stranger turned to her and said, “Let’s talk. I’ve heard that flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.” The little girl, who had just opened her coloring book, closed it slowly and said to the stranger, “What would you like to talk about?” “Oh, I don’t know,” said the stranger. “Since you are a Negro, do you think that So-called President Elect Barak Obama is qualified for the job?” and he smiles. “OK”, she said. ‘That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass - Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass. Why do you suppose that is?” The stranger, visibly surprised by the little girl’s intelligence, thinks about it and says, “Hmmm, I have no idea.” To which the little girl replies, “Do you really feel qualified to discuss President Barack Obama … when you don’t know s**t?”
Name: sweetpea
Comment: @Brandon, your entitled to your opinion even though I disagree with it.
Name: sweetpea
Comment: @MsVAnese that was funny! LOL!
Name: huey
Comment: sweetpea --and he's also entitled to have others reject and denounce his bytch azz if we see fit to allow him his opinion.....
Name: JGGIRL
Comment: I know in America when you are mixed you are identified as black but people ask yourself why>>> Could it have something to do with the COLOR OF YOUR SKIN??!!!
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: 54 comments and it's only 9:15. Dayum. Y'all gave me some reading to do while I eat my oatmeal. Dayum.
Name: MsVanese
Comment: most biracial people I have met say they are black. not sure why, but if that is what they want, who am I to question them? I guess they figure, if you can't beat them... http://www.eurthisnthat.com/jokey-jokes/cant-argue-wit h-this-one/
Name: MsVanese
Comment: http://www.eurthisnthat.com/jokey-jokes/cant-argue-wit h-this-one/
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: Death and divorce creates single parents as well. Not everyone who is a single parent went on a f.u.c.k. frenzy. Take, for example my nephew, for example, whose birthday is tomorrow. His mother died two days after he was born. My brother is a single parent.
Name: Smokie1
Comment: I have never heard Obama, Keys, Moore, or even Halle diss their mothers. In fact they have lifted them up in their praise of them as recently we have mourned the death of Obama's white grandmother with him and have all expressed how lovingly his expressions of her have been. That is not a diss, that is an uplifting. Even out of Obama's mouth he said that he identified with African American because that is what society labled him as, so don't try to be upset because Obama and the rest of them just fell in line with what "society" thought of them. Coulter is looking for attention and we are giving it to her by puuting her in the media. If we ignore her and her rhetoric then what will she accomplish? Not a dog gone thing.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: Numbers are the easiest thing to be manipulated and should not be trusted. I ask you, how many of you make $50,000 a year? The numbers say you make $50K, but how much do you bring home or see? Did you ever see the entire $50,000 that you make? So what I'm trying to say is that oftentimes, numbers do not tell the truth.
Name: moodring100
Comment: Brandon?Wow Are you serious?
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: . . . or at the very least can be easily manipulated, depending on what your agenda is. The numbers are this, but what are the the REASONS for those numbers???
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: I'm gonna jump in here once and then leave it alone. Being of 2 races in this society is extremely difficult because you get sh*t like this from both sides. You get it from the Brandons and Melody-crazy-azzed-not-so-cool and you get it from the Coulters of the world. You constantly ride a fence. If you don't act "black enough" you get called a sell-out by black people. If you exhibit your black heritage you get called a pickininny/junglebunny/porch monkey/etc. by white people. You can't win. So I sit here and read all this mess and I would love it if the folks who talk badly about people like me would go back and enjoy the childhood I had - not being accepted by either race. Me personally, all I wanted was to be accepted period but I never was so I gave up. And the funny thing is that my own parents contributed to the problem. When I got a perm, my dad told me I was trying to be white. When I wore my hair in an "afro puff" my mother told me I looked like something from the "Ubangi" tribe (a tribe she made up, of course). Do y'all realize that a lot of people who enter interracial relationships are racially confused? Do you get that? And guess what? They raise confused children who get it at home and out in the street. You get black men and black women who hate their blackness and then you get white women that can't get white men to date them so they settle for black men. And you get white men and women who think it's cool/exotic to date a black person. All of that ignorance gets passed on to the children and you have to wade through it to get to where you get comfortable in your skin despite your upbringing. Aside from that, I do not look white. I could never pass for white. I do not want to pass for white anyway. I do not see the world through "white eyes". I have never and will never experience the privilege white people experience because to the world I'm black. My mother and I once walked into Hechts (now Macys) and she was bombarded by the perfume girls. They acted like I didn't exist. I was okay with it because they annoy me. But my (black) friend was with us too and she said she would've liked to have been approached. She noticed the slight. I didn't. But I do notice it a lot, too. People who put down people of 2 races need to have some empathy. Not sympathy, empathy - putting yourself in my shoes. Don't feel sorry for people like me. Just have compassion and think about how what you say can be hurtful. I view myself as a black woman with a white mother. And yes, it offends my mother but I told her - so what!? You chose to create a child with a black man now deal with it because I have to. And I won't even mention the fact that my mother refuses to acknowledge racism towards me when I point it out to her because she can't wrap her mind around her people acting sh*tty to black people. Imagine that. Now I'm going to leave this alone and just read.
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: supposedly, realuv, percentages are based upon the real numbers: so, does that follow that the percentages should not be trusted?
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Brandon, Bill Bennet said that in order to curb the high birth rate in black communities, we should start to routinely abort black babies. Is it true? Well if you think about it, it is. Is it offensive, yes it is. What Jeremiah Wright said was true. I would guess that you agreed w/him in the way you agree w/Ann. IMO, you are attaching yourself to the most ridiculous of arguments. Obama and 'em throw their white side under the bus and take the ethnicity of their fathers? Really? When is ethnicity a choice for us? Can a white african come to the us and be seen as an african..despite how they identify themselves? Prolly not. Halle isn't known as the first black actress to win an Oscar because she identifies herself as black. Even considering Tiger, in what book, journal, magazine, online source etc have you ever seen Tiger referenced as "the first canablasian (or whatever he calls himself" to win the Masters? That's true even though he doesn't refer to himself as black. What history book refers to him in this vague ethnic reference? None I've seen.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: Two parents don't guarantee you anything. If you believe that, I've got two words for you: BRYAN NICHOLS!!
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >HT - Statistics and percentages can be manipulated and they are manipulated all the time. Scientists/researchers/academics very often come to a conclusion then backtrack and find the statistics/"facts" to support their conclusions. It's azz-backwards but it's done all the time.
Name: Afiya
Comment: THIS 'ITCH!! *where's my duct tape?*
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: QB...yes, like the one Obama (in his attack black men routine) falsely continued to say about there being more black men in jail than in college. You can get a statistic to say nething you want. You're more likely to believe it when you want to believe it. BTW....Obama's underhanded pay2play pick to become SoS is having her hearing as we write.
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: queenie, thanks for sharing what life looks like for you as bi-racial in America . . . . I have long known that numbers, statistics, percentages, etc. are manipulated: I am constantly amazed at people who drink the "lies, damn lies, and statistics" koolaid
Name: ss69054
Comment: Queeniebunz: thanks for sharing your experiences as a bi-racial person. Many of my friends and family members say the same things you've stated. I wonder how can we move on from this point and start to heal??
Name: javone77
Comment: ok. I did not bother to read a lot of this stuff. I have never liked ann and never understood why people even talk to that dried up windbag. I think my problem with her right now is that how in the world are you going to describe someone's future just because of how they were raised? "farm team for criminals" my %*$. My dad left me...and I am now an educator with a masters in business. my sister's dad didn't even claim her and she too has a master's in business and is working as an accountant. so ann can take that bullshit and run with it. and anybody who believes it can run right behind her pasty a$$
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Queeniebunz that was deep. Very interesting. Good post though.I have alot of biracial friends and family members and they all bar one identify as black. They have often told me that they feel more comfortabale around black folks because they look black and that black folks are more accepting. I believe there are some blacks who have an inferiority complex when it comes to biracials, always talkin about 'u are not black enough' but the majority of us are generally more accepting of our biracial brothers n sisters.
Name: MER82
Comment: Its a shame that we even have to entertain this foolishness but it speaks to the fact that there are some scared white folk out there who are grasping at all kinds of straws to keep the illusion alive. Nothing this trick said is true and for anyone to accept her points as valid, you need to take a good long look in the mirror and then do some serious research. Throwing numbers out there to support a stereotype is not new, its been done since the white man claimed science for his own. By the way, white folk are the one who rejected, denounced and cursed anyone not Pure white, now these sorry punk muthafukkas want to change the rules. Imagine that.
Name: Quanli
Comment: The biracial argument is soley to discredit any feelings of pride the black community may have over Obama's victory. I say that because our history is LITTERED with "biracial" slave children and is the reason why today, we come in over 30 different shades (if I am not mistaken). When they accept Jefferson's black descendants as they have his "rightful" white ones, I will believe there is an argument for this "biracial" category. What they do is systematic, they hold up the "biracial" in the public eye up to a certain level then swoop down to decide so & so is no longer black.
Name: smurfy
Comment: brandon, just want you to know i agree that you made some very good points...and that you weren't defending ann when you said it....and i do agree with her about how selfish it is for all these women to chose to have a baby without a father.....they are only thinking of themselves....and huey, come on dude...there is absolutely no need for you to be so downright hateful, nasty and vulgar...the use of curse words should not be allowed on these posts and we can rise above it....plus, i know you are more intelligent than that!
Name: Quanli
Comment: MER82, exactly! They are known to change the rules in the middle of the game.
Name: huey
Comment: smurfy --this is my form of expression on this topic,,im not effn changing.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: My cousin raised her two boys without the help of her husband.(He had 6 other children and um...forgot to tell her so she kicked him out). She put off her studies and worked several jobs to make ends meet. When the boys became teenagers they went in search of their father and developed a close father/son relationship. She was furious and tried to discourage them from seeing him but they ignored her and told her ' we love you mum but we need a father'. Lets flip the script here, Ann Coulter may be feeling like my cousin, i.e. why reach out to the party that was never there for you? Well mothers cannot always fill the father void like the white side of the family cannot fill the black void.
Name: Stephanie
Comment: Nothing is more stupid than arguing with a damn fool! I wouldn't waste an ounce of energy on what this anorexic looking peckerwood has to say. How are you going to make a negative comment about single mothers and you don't have a husband or kids??? WTF...but then again, anything to sell a book. She is so double standard...she was all up in Sarah Palin's azz but I guess Palin's daughter is an exception to the white rule but if I understand it correctly, she is a single TEENAGE mother so does that mean little Tripp will follow in his paternal grandma's footsteps? Somebody should have just came out and asked her, are you a racist and then when she started denying it, they should have asked her to name 3 of her black friends and when is the last time she's had any of them over for dinner or gone out with them...I bet that would have shut her stupid azz up!
Name: DCGG
Comment: Why does EUR continue to promote this miserable piece of dog shyt?
Name: huey
Comment: DCGG --my sentiments exactly....bytch makes me want to put on a wet leather glove and pimp slap the jack shyt out of her.
Name: NYCsoul
Comment: QB> Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. I want to say more on this subject but I'll keep it to myself so as not to offend anyone. You seem very confident and comfortable in your own skin (no pun intended).
Name: javone77
Comment: smurfy: do you think that single mothers choose to raise their children alone?
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Ann Coulter may have made some valid points but the reason folks are coming down hard on her is because she is known to be biased. I wrote her a harsh letter in response to a negative article she wrote a day after Halle's win. She critized Halle for only giving props to black folks in her speech and said alot of nasty things about the historical moment, clearly she hadn't watched the Dorothy Dandridge movie. *thinking aloud* I wonder if she remembers me, cos I'm sure I had her sleeping with one eye open after reading my letter lol
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: @HarrisThomas, Percentage speaking, if the numbers we were looking at were true, then blacks and browns would be the majority and whites would be the minority in this country in the 21st Century. No matter how high blacks go and the accomplishments they make, they will still be the MINORITY, so no I don't believe the percentages either. My litmus test is: IS THIS REAL? IS THIS THE TRUTH? IS THIS ACCURATE? personally I don't care about the numbers, generally speaking: Tell the truth and fix what's wrong. It has nothing to do with the numbers. The numbers are used to substantiate white supremacy, that's all numbers are good for And the way I see it,Obama's nomination has put white supremacy on life support so Ann has to go out telling why white folk are better than black folk, even if there's a black man in the White House. PEOPLE USE NUMBERS TO LIE ALL DAY EVERY DAY!
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >MsBlake - I read your comment and I guess I have a problem with your cousin. Your cousin was mad that her children wanted a relationship with their father. I understand the whole - "I raised you alone but that wasn't good enough now you want to have a relationship with the good-for-nothing jerk who dogged me out" argument but isn't that kind of selfish and unfair of her to be mad that her children want to have a relationship with both parents? Pardon me if I offend but that situation kind of caught my attention. Perhaps because I know women who feel like that to the detriment of their children.
Name: SpecialK
Comment: queenie: Excellent post!!
Name: lovebites
Comment: Is Brandon white or has he lost his mind?
Name: bigchassie
Comment: ALL I CAN SAY IS WOOOH!! THIS IS HOT!!
Name: MsBlake
Comment: I agree with the post above who said not all single parents choose to be single. Things happen!! Personally I feel it is unfair to blame them for the misfits in society. Going back to the biracial issue, have u noticed that when the a biracial man or woman does something wrong, folks like Ann and happy to identify them as AFRICAN AMERICAN but when the person is successful and identifies as black she gets upset. Maybe I missed it but was she this passionate back when Tiger was saying he does not identify as African American??? Ummm.......i must have missed it!
Name: ss69054
Comment: Huey: I'm trying to get a hold of that Voo-Doo doll with the pin so everytime she start up some sheet I'm gonna bend and twist and stab that mofo doll. When I get through with her she'll look like the night if the living dead.
Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, they are all of the same. Scream and yell and make attempts of reverse racism. Some of their points are valid, yes there are many social programs that are being abused but if you look at the numbers, the current financial crisis is worse than some woman trying to feed her kids with some illegal welfare or a illegal section 8 voucher.
Name: Stephanie
Comment: Does anyone think that Halle Berry would have ever considered having a child with a black man?
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Queenie I have a cousin with my cousin too. It is selfish. She claims she's mad cos she sacrificed so much more than the dude and now the children are giving equal love. I really think thats how Ann Coulter feels. She is mad that the other party/community is getting so much love.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Stephanie, Halle loved her some black men, her last I believe was Michael Ealy but it just didn't work out.
Name: ss69054
Comment: Stephanie: yes, Halle wanted a baby by that fine wine Michael Ealy but he declined because he states he wanted to be married when he starts a family. Halle didn't want another marriage especially after that divorce with Bener. Seriously, I think Halle decided to have her baby because she simply wanted to be a mom and given her age being in the 40s and diabetes. She didn't look at color when she got with Gabriel.
Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: Interesting comments. I have several personal perspectives on this biracial situation. My kids are all fair skinned, but my wife is not white. When my kids were younger, people at work (mostly white) would ask if I was married to a white woman. Most black people who did ask could tell by looking my kids were just light. As my kids grew up they got darker of course,except for my oldest. To this day, people constantly ask her if her mother or father is white. Now she does have friends who are products of a biracial marriage and she is lighter than most of them. And yes, she does get treated differently based on her looks but since she was a baby, we have taught her to focus on academics and not the looks. I have a friend that for 20 plus years none of us knew he was white. He was adopted and we just took it for granted he was light skinned. But a few years ago my man was on a mission to find his parents. Turns out both of his parents are white. You cannot even tell. So for years he was raised by a black family but again, he never used that as some excuse or looked down at anyone. My point is, society and past ignorance has caused this light skin black skin debate (look at Hispanics and Cubans) and it will only get worse.
Name: TGen
Comment: I can't read all these dang comments, but I just want to co-sign Brandon. Very good posts.
Name: huey
Comment: lovebites ---i will take lost his fuucn mind for $2000 please--- Stephanie Comment: "Does anyone think that Halle Berry would have ever considered having a child with a black man?", sure if them negros would have stopped whuppin her azz and cheating on her long enough to see that she was probably one rightious sister trying to find a good black man.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Obama never really lived around black folks until he moved to chicago, now by that time he was a grown azz man. So for him to be asked how he identifies and to hear him say proudly 'I AM AFRICAN AMERICAN' instead of that cablinasian stuff! Well it does not sit well with alot of people but the man is allowed to identify with whomever he wants. Quoting Toni Morrison from the book Beloved ' Definitions are not for the definers but the defined, in other words its not what u call me that matters its what I answer to.
Name: justafu
Comment: It's mighty dayum strange that for centuries the dominant culture being mostly European in nature has chosen this path of the "one drop rule" and now idiot racists like Anne Coulter want to try & redefine who & what "black folks" should be claiming to be just to sell her dayum book!
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: hmmm, I vote loss of mind and note that a mind IS a terrible thing to waste - Name: lovebites Comment: Is Brandon white or has he lost his mind? . . . . . on the other hand, we have to be exposed to opposing points of view because it would be dull if we all agreed all of the time: people thinking outside of known parameters help to facilitate change, negative and positive
Name: lovebites
Comment: huey you read my mind. i love you.
Name: CRENEEJ
Comment: MSBLAKE, LOL@ your letter.... and JAV, no i don't think the majority of single mothers choose to raise their kids alone, but you have to know what type of man you're lying down with. that would prevent the problem altogether in my opinion. I think that sometimes a person removed can offer an objective opinion. coulter is known as being biased, but it doesn't mean that some of her points weren't valid. i mean there are plenty of people who play victim (we all know them) and get ahead, while normal hardworking people (like most of us) foot the bill. i can't even count how many people i know who have section 8, WIC, family first cards, but make more than my husband and I and we're struggling....
Name: TGen
Comment: For the life of me, I can't understand what's so wrong with what Brandon stated. I don't even know how it's arguable to be honest. And I don't understand why his motives are being questioned, as if he's some kind of racist or something for stating the obvious. I think it's highly possible to agree with someone's sentiment, but not share the same motive. I think it's possible to agree with something Coulter might say while not coming from the same place (malice) that she's coming from while saying it. What's so dang "white" or "crazy" about that? Hmmm
Name: Quanli
Comment: HarrisThomas, can't say I know anything about Brandon, but you will notice most discussions of this nature bring out people you've never seen or heard from for a reason.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: I watched the video again to try and understand Ann fully, but while there is some truth to what she says I think she was a bit extreme especually when she says Halle, Barack and Alicia dissed their mothers. Those three including Shemar moore are some of the biggest mama's boys and girls I know. They don't play with their mothers, talking about 'she's my rock' and everything. Ann probably needs to read/watch more of their interviews. I can't see how saying 'I am African American' is dissing their mother when all they talk about most of the time is their mother. Sigh!
Name: huey
Comment: CRENEEJ --stop using your "we struggling" argument as excuse to try to strip away mechanisms that offer assistance to the less fortunate. the same u say they may need to pull themselves up by there bootstraps, or unable to pull themselves up by their bootstraps at all is the same argument i will use to say to u, if u are your husband are struggling, then go back to school, get a part time job, both of you get a part time if u struggling that bad. just cause u struggling taint got nothing to do with "families with wic cards". it has to do with u just happened to be in a tax bracket that aint working for u. maybe u got champagne taste and beer money. how much mess u charge up for christmas gifts last year? what kinda whip u and your husband pushing? ask yourself those questions but dont cast aspersion on "families with wip cards". what a weak argument.
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: Brandon> Obama did not diss his mother, are you high? This man has paid homage to his mother, but mostly to the women who raised him, his grandmother.
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: Dean> I agree with you. All she need to do is to find a few who thinks like Brandon and it's ching, ching. 90% of that crap in that book is skewed or incorrect.
Name: huey
Comment: ladybyrd --i will take he is high for $4000 please...
Name: javone77
Comment: uhm........know who you're laying down with. my mom was married. this was no nukka off the street.
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: BigPauley> To have a big burning one would need to purchase the book, which would defeat the purpose. Maybe we should just ignore it.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: CreenJ, Ann left me no choice. I remember it well. The day after the win, I came on Eurweb and for the first time ERRRYBODY had something positive to say, it was such a nice RARE feeling,then i stumbled across Ann's article and it ruined my mood. If I was in the audience at 'The View', I woulda stood up during the commercial break and shouted 'YO ANN REMEMBER ME? ITS MS BLAKE!....... WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T REMEMBER ME?.....I WROTE YOU A LETTER ON MARCH 25TH 2002!..STILL DON'T REMEMBER ME HUH???.........IT WAS ABOUT HALLE BERRY!!!.........HEY WAIT....STOP RUNNING.......ITS COOL......WHERE YOU GOING?.........I'M SAVED, I HAVE FOUND JESUS SINCE THEN........LOL
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: Huey> *<giving huey a hug LOL> ... he has to be high, why else would he make a dillusional statment.
Name: Penelope
Comment: Without reading all thee comments, I am amazed that Ann Coulter has the temerity to speak on anything pertaining to Black or biracial folks. Or single parenthood for that matter. She regularly refers to Pres Elect as B. Hussein Obama. Now she gets additional press and folks fighting because she wants to say how biracial people view themselves. WTF? Who is Ann Coulter? Really? She can speak to how biracial people define themselves? Really? Other than the fact that we believe in Freedom of Speech, what authority does she have to speak on biracial folks, how they say themselves and how Black folks view them. Ann Coulter can speak intelligently to that? Wow. Who knew.
Name: LazySusan
Comment: While I don't put President Elect Obama in that category, I did not completely disagree with Coulter on that bi-racial thing. Halle Berry went from identifying herself as Black(I specifically remember her saying that her mother told her that she was White and that Halle was Black) and now she's bi-racial. But Irene Cara was the one that irked me back in the day. She takes her butt up in a 'Roots' audition to play Alex Haley's grandmother. I know daymned well they were looking for a Black actress. She gets the role, moves on and is now half Puerto Rican or something. As for Coulter herself, I don't believe for one minute believe that broad is genuine. I don't believe she believes half the things she says or writes about. But she figured out a way to make money off just talking shyt. That's it.The biggest fools are the people that buy her books, thinking that she's someone that identifies with their 'beliefs'.
Name: javone77
Comment: my mom didn't choose single motherhood...and neither did I.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: TGEN..Obama dissing his mom's side of the family really isn't an arguable point and is a fallacy considering who raised him and the things he's said about them. He brought up Tiger as the lone person who refuses to classify himself by one ethnicity cuz of his bi-racial background. Thas kewl..but as I pointed out earler, 99.9% of the people commenting and writing opinions on his list of "firsts" classify him as an african american. So does Brandon make a valid point w/that example? Not really. Any parent raising a bi-racial child should understand the social impact on them BEFORE they decide to birth as the elysian pov Brandon has is nonexistent. You can find the truth in any argument..even George Bush. However, what is the relative truth about Ann's idea that we should thank single mothers for introducing criminals to our lives? It's a provocative rather than a intellectually honest argument. If Whoopi had said that we should thank white people for government corruption, high-crimes, and corporate scandal. Being born into the white race is like a farm team for future instigators of government corruption, treason, high-crimes, corporate scandal and child molestation? When you break the argument down...is it true? Yes it is. Would there be any major interviews granted for a black person who wrote that? Prolly not. Would you and Brandon agree w/that in the same way you're agreeing w/parts of what Ann said?
Name: CRENEEJ
Comment: HUEY, i would reread what i wrote before making suggestions about my life and practices if i were you. let me again say, that we all know people who take advantage of the system, and that is a problem. JAV, again, don't take it personally, but yes, you do have to know who you're laying down with. a husband can be just as if not more trifling than a baby's daddy. IMO, there are warning signs about people's propensities, and you either heed them, or ignore them.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >MsBlake - I haven't watched the clip because the woman has infuriated me for years. She lost me when she criticized the widows from 9/11. That's some cold sh*t. There is rhetoric that I just won't take into my spirit because it creates negative energy in me and I can't have that. Unfortunately for all of us, hate sells. When people speak of love and candyland and gum drops and flowers and hold hands and sing "I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony..." (remember the Coke commercials? LOL)they get rocks and tomatoes thrown at them but this heifa and the people like her get book deals and appearances on talk shows. It's a shame, truly.
Name: CRENEEJ
Comment: and MSBLAKE, security is still gonna come and stun yo azz if you get near her LMAO... you know she still remembers you...
Name: Kofi
Comment: The Ann Coulters, Brandon's et al are simply trolls. Coulter is just a highly paid troll. Their job is to say the most ignorant shyt just to get a response. Judging from the 100+ responses on this board, she has been successful. Most of the population knows that Coulter is talking out of her azz but yet we still give her a forum. She gets paid, EUR gets paid and we just get worked up!! There is an African proverb: Never argue with a fool because if a third person walked up it would be difficult to tell just who the fool is!!!
Name: javone77
Comment: creneej: most warning signs do not come until after a baby is here. my father left because I was not a boy.
Name: javone77
Comment: i was 9 and my sister was 11 when that nukka decided that having a son was more important than the kids he already had.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Ann Coulter's fame is to say the most offensive thing she can just to get a rise. It's like a comedian who can only talk about sex, white folk or those in the audience. Nothing serious...just fluff. Interesting enough, she's called a "provocateur" but never a race-baiter.
Name: huey
Comment: CRENEEJ --i reread your post as u have asked and it has not disabused of the notion that i suspect that u and your husband are living above your means. and it aint got nothing to do with "families on wic". stop pointing the finger at them and using them as an excuse for your own downtrodden financial situation. go to school and get a better education thus aligning you with a better paying job and stop blaming others for your sorry state of financial affairs. that didnt get you in this debt that you in.
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: TGen, Coulter did/could not relax and enjoy the ladies on The View, rather Coulter tended to be combatative and snide which put the ladies in defense mode [including Elizabeth, the resident conservative!] as Coulter attacked various comments and how book passages were read for no good reasons . . . . generally, the negative intent behind Coulter's verbal and written commentary tends to be provocatively malicious so that even if she should make a statement to which one might agree, one should consider whether the comment is set up as the foundation for a really base, rude conclusion . . . . . in a different setting, having the single-parent conversation with a person like Dr. Poussaint, for instance, I don't think that people on this board or on The View would be as defensive and concerned about negative intent . . . . . in this instance, most of us really don't like the messenger or her message
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >huey - Dayum! You gonna have Creneej pulling her earrings off, putting on her Timbs and pulling up her sleeves in a minute. Dayum. Not to instigate but to create peace - you are both right. People do live above their means, (not that it is the case here) and people do abuse the welfare system. My mom used to get mad when she saw people pay for their steaks, etc. with food stamps while she paid for our ground beef with her hard-earned cash. And yet I see the welfare fraud people "getting over" but never having as much as they could have if they actually worked for it. The sky's the limit if you work for it whereas if you are collecting a check it ain't gon be but so much. That's how I don't trip off it. You are both right just maybe not specifically about Creneej. *ducking*
Name: TGen
Comment: Musb, I suspect you're purposely exaggerating Brandon's claim to further your point about Coulter, as are most people. I can't speak for him, but I understood Brandon's posts to say that several biracial celebs have utilized their "blackness" to further their careers, to make their stories more interesting, if you will. Doing so, ie claiming their "blackness" instead of their interracial-ness can be seen as an affront to their White parents, in these instances, the ones who raised them. Tiger Woods is the best example to illustrate this because he said this VERBATIM. He talked about how he viewed only claiming his Blackness as disrespectful to the other aspects of his ethnicity. I get that and I apprecaite that (and I'm VERY far from being a Tiger fan, mind you). This is NOT to say that this totally encompazzes the experience of ALL biracials. Similarly, his comments about single parenthood do not encompazz ALL people who've experienced single parenthood or childhood. Surely you know that. So why pretend otherwise? (Not you personally, but you as in all who keep exaggerating the claim). The only issue I will take is with Brandon's stats, I think they're off. I think I heard recently the numbers were getting better, more kids were coming up in two-parent homes (including in Black homes), so I do think his stats are off. But anyway, that's my 2 cents.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Co-sign Queenie. LOL @CreenJ,I doubt security will walk her to her car. I'll wait for her there. lol I think its unfair to blame single mothers for the people they lay with. Things happen!!!. A friend of mine just came out to me (I always knew he was suspect! lol anyway I got him to out all our mutual friends and I kid u not, I had sleepless nights for a week cos I began to ask myself 'sweet baby jesus who can u trust? asking are u gay just doesnt cut it anymore . The guys he named were previously in long term relationships, some married, divorced, players always up in the club etc. No sign, no nothing, these brothas were nothing like Al Reynolds or Terry Mcmillian's ex. So to blame women when they become single is very unfair, cos u never really know that the person will be around for long.
Name: CRENEEJ
Comment: wow HUEY,....AGAIN, i was talking about people who abuse the system, not those who really need it. am i hitting a nerve? secondly, my husband and I live well within our means, but when gas and food prices start to double, and jobs start to evaporate, (i work in the pharma field, all of the companies here are laying off) where does the extra money that you used to be able to save then go? i'm not struggling for the necessities, but it is hard to save when your daily expenses double. now yeah, i could go get a part time job, but who would take care of my kids HUEY? are you volunteering? my husband already works 2 jobs. we're not saving as much as i'd like, but we're not dirt poor either. i would stop being such a sanctimonious azzwipe if i were you, it's such a turn-off.
Name: huey
Comment: queeniebunz --i concur with parts of your logic, but people like Creneej get on my effn nerves. acting like what "families on wic" eat makes Creneej shi77. the two are mutually exclusive.
Name: TGen
Comment: HT, I didn't see the clip, can't see it here and I doubt I'll be checking it out at home, lol. But I think your post is accurate, and that's my point. People are being blinded by the messenger instead of evaluating the validity of the message, which is perfectly understandable, but it's also immature. Jmo
Name: CRENEEJ
Comment: JAV, i think we're going to have to agree to disagree. i'm sure in some cases, people just up and change on you, but i do believe there are warning signs.
Name: Reds
Comment: Brandon and Ann Coulter are two of a kind. They are exhibitionists, and they will do anything to get attention. They know how to manipulate, twist and misinterpret statistics to fit their agenda, and they know the furor it will create among the more emotional amongst us. But sometimes I wonder if these people are so full of themselves that they can’t see how dumb it makes them look. When Ann Coulter say “They all choose to identify with the fathers who ditched them, while insulting the women who struggled to raise them.” This statement could make some sense to someone from Mars or Pluto, but anyone familiar with America’s white culture, knows that statement carries no credibility. White people were the ones who implement the one drop rule and since they are the rulers, every biracial person has to submit to that rule.
Name: Brandon
Comment: Some of you have gotten really ridiculous and need to get your heads out of the sand. You may not like how Ann Coulter explained herself, but what she said about some biracial folks chooisng to only to acknowledge one side of their heritage and not both, is absolutely correct. None of you seem to complain that Mariah Carey doesn't call herself Black, because you're stuck on looks. I guess because she's not Brown, she's okay. Whatever people choose to identify with is his/her perogative, but that doesn't mean that other folks aren't going to question his/her decision. By the way, always "pumping up" the Black side, and never acknowledging the White side is the same as dissing the White side (the same as it would be if it was reversed). As for the comment that MOST criminals in prison today are products of single-parent homes is true! 52% of ALL White children born in America are born into single-parent homes; 74% of ALL Black children. That means most of births in this country are to single-parent homes, so most of the criminals would have to be from single-parent homes (most of the young people in the country are). C'mon folks, no one's claiming it's a Black or White issue - it isn't, it's an American issue.
Name: MsFresno
Comment: I am loving Huey today, lol.
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: I love the way Ann had no answer to what she said about JFK and Camelot. She quickly said that the red lot is flashing, yeah right. She know that it would set off a fire storm from the audience, plus didn't have a defense. Ann is just tossing up bullsh*t to see what sticks, so she get richer.
Name: CRENEEJ
Comment: HUEY again, you with the WIC comments... WIC does cost money does it not? and people who get it who don't actually need it are bleeding the system dry right? WTF is the problem with saying something about that. they are not mutually exclusive, so don't try that bullshat... if i had said illegal immigrants caking off when regular people who are working don't get that, would you feel the same way?
Name: huey
Comment: CRENEEJ --well unload some of that mess , cut out that cable, u dont need all them channels, trade that gas guzzler in for something that makes economical since, stop eatting out every week and ordering pizza and cook some dang gone time. get rid of some of them dang gone creature comforts u holding down, take them crumbsnatchers over to your neighbors house who baby set and not them well apointed places u gottem going to or find a cheap baby sitter, u said u "not saving as much as u like", well if u saving u aint hurting bad as u think, some folks aint saving cause they taint gotz nutting to save. so stop with the excuses. everybody gotta give up something. thats what obama done told ya. that means u too CRENEEJ. so dont go throwing the baby out with the bath water. sometimes the few must sacrifice for the many as pertains to gubment subsidies. until u come up with a way to catch the ganstas who are benifitin unfairly from the welfare system dont go trying to take away their lifeline unless u strip away your own lifelines.
Name: Penelope
Comment: It is wrong to make sweeping generalizations about any class of people. Everybody ain't what Ann Coulter says they are and are not. Ann Coulter is not in that position to make that determination. If that is the case, then let me say that All stringy haired half dressed blond white women are racists, unhappy hateful b!tches. But, I know that simply is not the case.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Creneej - Let me throw this at you. People DO up and change, particularly when people marry too young. I know I'm not the same person I was when I was 16 or 26. And, people do hide who they really are, sometimes til they hook a man/woman and then they take off their mask and YIKES! You thought you had Denzel but you are really married to Shrek or Shrekette - a lying, cheating, lazy, triflin ogre. And there are no signs because that person works hard to hide his/her true self because he/she knows that the true self is evil/awful. So, I have to disagree with you. People do change and people do hide their true nature(s) because they know nobody will like or love who they really are.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: Brandon, many white women label their mixed children black so their numbers go in with ours and suppress figures for whites having out of wedlock births. But one thing about it...whites fight de-stigmatize their children born without the benefit of two parents. I see it all the time and many of these women become impregnated by married men.
Name: Snicker
Comment: -->queeniebunz you are so right about people changing who they are....it happens all the time....sometimes people do know what they are getting but sometimes somebody will switch up on you out of no where.
Name: Snicker
Comment: --->melodycool that's why those statistics aren't accurate because they include white women's mixed children as black....that's not fair or accurate.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: Grace12_34, that's quite interesting about Dreier. Don't you know "they" are the only ones allowed to have attitudes? Their feelings are "always" justified and valid.
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: Brandon> Everytime Mariah is asked about her roots she explains it, and this is all anyone can ask of her.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: MrMarques72, you are right in your initial comment about problems facing biracials, but most still remain fiercely protective and pro-white as they are seeking to gain more privileges. Most see their "recent" (the operative word here) white admixture as an invaluable %*$et. However, I am noticing an increase in lawsuits filed by biracials claiming discrimation from whites.
Name: ss69054
Comment: Hmmm, just curious if bi-racial children with a black mother, Asian mother or Latina mother are treated differently than a bi-racial person with a white mother. I don't know what to you guys think? Just open dialogue since we are ok the issue of race.
Name: Mas90
Comment: Realuv...."PEOPLE USE NUMBERS TO LIE ALL DAY EVERY DAY!" Well, I guess Obama will be lying to you very soon.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: Thanks, Snicker. I picked up on that a long time ago. Now once biracials split into another category we'll start to see some adjustments. Black, white, biracial and latino women etc are having children without marriage, but blacks are the only ones stigmatized...can't wait for this to change.
Name: CRENEEJ
Comment: wow HUEY, you don't know me, so don't make suggestions about how i ought to be living, working, spending, and especially who cares for my children. again are you volunteering? don't cut their life line??? you are hilarious... i am all for helping those who are trying to help themselves, but seriously, don't cut the lifelines of the welfare gangstas....? SMH QUEENIE, ok i digress sometimes people do change, but i'd like to think most of the time, it's gradual. at 30 i'm certainly not the same person at 20 or 25, but i didn't get to this place over night.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: TG..I'm only commenting on what Brandon "specifically" agreed with and cited his own examples. I've yet to hear Alicia, Obama or Halle not praise their mothers. His examples weren't "other" celebrities..he spoke specifically of them and there is no real evidence to back up his claim. Saying that "I think they do XYZ" is one thing. Seeing or hearing them actually do it is another. That's not an exagerration. It's nothing new that there is a long history of bi-racial people choosing a "side" to their advantage. Just like they play up the black side..historically, they've played to the white side for advantages sake. Again, I'm only commenting on what he said.
Name: Janissi
Comment: Very interesting reading here today on EURweb. Brandon, if you're still here, I have a question for you. In the scheme of things, unless you are biracial yourself, why is how people identify themselves such a concern? Overall, how is whether or not a biracial person identifies with black or not going to do to enhance your life? I never understood by many black people were concerned about another person's identity. Sometimes the loudest mouths shouting about biracial people not claiming their "other" side comes out of the mouth of black folks. If a biracial person wants to be classified as black, so be it. Would there be such an argument if they denied their "black" side? Overall, it isn't going to make or break your life, so can't we just move on and live and let life. JMO. Queenie, I loved the points you made in the story of your experience. Great post.
Name: huey
Comment: CRENEEJ --i dont NEED to know u to know u selfish and self serving. it permiates through the room like a pungent oder. and i didnt say dont cut the lifeline of gangstas who are pimping the welfare system for the sake of pimping the sytem. i SAID until YOU CRENEEJ or the gubment come up with a way to catch them, then dont go cutting the lifeline of those that need assistance. THATS what i said. but i dont expect u to come up with any way of catching them anytime soon cause u and yo huussband too busy enjoying your creature comforts instead of backing off of some of them high priced breakfast foods u feeding your crumbsnatchers instead of feeding them pourage every now and a dayum gen. had u read what i posted CRENEEJ u would have understood this memo.
Name: TGen
Comment: Janissi, reference Snicker/Melodycool's posts. They make interesting claims about stats and how some biracials are included in stats of African Americans, which does have broad implications. Not saying I disagree with your "live and let live" sentiment, I do, but I don't think it's smart to dismiss the concept of an ethnic group's standing in this country, when this is used as a gauge in many stats evaluating the communities. So it does matter, for better or worse, it matters.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Brandon: sure it's true that biracial folks choose to acknowledge one side and not both. There are blacks who don't acknowledge their blackness...jews who 'deny' jewish principles and born muslims who eat pork. What you are doing is showcasing your personal disdain for people who "choose" to acknowlege one side and deciding that your personal disdain is why they should agree with you. It's like me agreeing with Bill Bennet's statement about aborting black babies...because of my personal dislike for single parenthood. I just don't think you've made a good intellectual argument here. Is the statement " Being born into the white race is like a farm team for future instigators of government corruption, treason, high-crimes, corporate scandal, child molestation and domestic terroists." Is that true? Yep. Is it an gud argument to have amongst reasonably intelligent people? No it isn't.
Name: Janissi
Comment: TGen>>>Point taken.
Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: Before anyone gets this twisted, the largest biracial group is white men and asian women. If you throw shoes at me, I am keeping them if they fit me.
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: CRENEE>I'm trying to understand the problem in/what you said. People do abuse the system, u should know who you lie down w/ and usually there are warning signs. *scratching head*
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: realuvbaby, I'm sorry to hear about the circumstances of how your brother became a single father. Strange, I recall this happening to someone in my building and I saw this woman just days before she gave birth. Now I'm wondering if they are the same.
Name: TGen
Comment: lol Musb, I was wondering the same thing. I thought what Creenj was saying was pretty much common knowledge. *shrug*
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: ss69054, white mothers are at the top of the food chain. The ideal combination is ww/bm, and non-blacks mothers are all stripes are 2nd in line.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: all i can say is the best thing for ann to do is move in with madoff. cause if that hefa is out on the street, she will get a beatdown!
Name: CRENEEJ
Comment: HUEY, you are funny. an idiot, but funny. don't worry about what i feed my kids... i'm not living off the system, so what i feed them doesn't affect you at all. if i were living off of the system, and wasn't trying to make anything for myself then you could talk.
Name: huey
Comment: CRENEEJ --thank you, i resemble that remark, ive been called worse. and i will stop worrying about what u feed your crumbsnatchers when u stop worrying about what "families on wic" eat. how bout that? dont feel so good when u look in the mirror and realize u are just as bad a financial position as those u are casting aspersion on does it. well thats what huey is her to do. unmask folks like u.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Huey: Whaddup my dude!!, had to bounce earlier! Yep!!!....it's about to be oooooooooooown! Obama in FULL effect!! Holla!
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Huey: Mayn!!...we both go through it on this thang hurr, huh?....ya dig!!??? The shyt is banannas,B,nan nan nan nannas!!!! LMBAO!!!
Name: huey
Comment: lol yo Taurusingr ..lol...yep, i enjoy kicking up dirt is this mother effer, pissing folk off bout they positions and whatnot...lol
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Huey: >< !!!! ahiiiiight! Especially if/when "they" attack first!?? ahh....."PLAY BALL"!!!! LOL!!!
Name: huey
Comment: hahahaha yep Taurusingr --man, im glad im out here in virtual world, cause if CRENEEJ could get her claws on my neck right now,i think she would be hot enough to scratch my eyes outta my skull hahahaha
Name: CRENEEJ
Comment: HUEY, aren't you from KILLADELPHIA? i'll stay in my lane out in the burbs of North Jersey.... i don't have to get violent w/ you, and if i could see you in person, i'm sure half of what you say here, you wouldn't say then. i'm only casting aspersion on those who get WIC, but don't need or deserve it. i have no problem w/ a person whose down on their luck. i do have a problem w/ people who don't try to do better. especially when my taxes are going towards it...
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Huey: "Duck" nig-ga!!, DUCK!!!!! LMBAO!!!!
Name: huey
Comment: CRENEEJ ---Philadelphia...say it with me slowly PHIIILLLAAADELLLPPHHIIIAA...folks round these parts dont like our town to be referred to in that manner.... "and if i could see you in person, i'm sure half of what you say here, you wouldn't say then."...yes i would, just louder. i see u backing offn your earlier position about people on gubment substadies after huey kept bussing u upside yo head with some knowledge. thats cool, in the words of the great poet, george clinton, "whatever it takes, whatever the party calls for".
Name: huey
Comment: Taurusingr ---hahahaha, everytime i think she's gone for the day that dayum salamander crawls back up the effn sink drain...
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Huey: Don'tcha just luuuuuuv that shyt! When I bring "the crickets" out?, I just sit on my "cybor porch" & sing wit dem! Ya dig! LOL!!!
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: Oh please, this bytch is not stating all of these "facts" because she's trying to better our society. Her whole logic is to be insulting and for that I say forget her. Besides, Madoff, Enron and etc. has done more harm to this country financially than all of the offspring of single parents put together.
Name: barnone
Comment: reluv> was reading ur comment and had 2 stop and post. thank u 4 taking the blinders off of brandon's eyes and exposing this neo-con, yt supremacist bullshat dogma. people talk crime and always the image of blacks or hispanics come 2 mind. but the REAL criminals, like madoff always get a pass. this s.o.b robbed millions of people and will probably never c the nside of a real jail cell. not only that, he will go on just as martha stewart and other corporate criminals and lead a successful, untarnished life.
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: Hey, huey I noticed that you didn't start your post off by stating that you wanted to lay nekkid with Ann LOL.
Name: huey
Comment: Taurusingr ---lol...watch this...CRENEEJ..and how did u come to the conclusion of who deserves gubment assistance and who does not? i bet u and you husband were in the supermarket and someone in front of yall paid for their grocerys with welfare checks and yall determined that they shoudnt have been dressed like they were and turned your elitist noses up at them said, "they dont deserve that dayum assistance that we paying for"...all the while sucking yall teeth at them and you and your husbands shopping cart full of non essential bull shyt that u dont even need...
Name: huey
Comment: Southernbelle --OH HELLLLLLL NAWWWWW....HAHAHAHA
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Southernbelle: Ok lady!!.calm down, calm down!! Breathe, breathe!!Don't let the "crackheads" get cha down! Let me buy YOU a draaaaank! sml!
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Huey:...Yo a fool booooooooey! LMAO!
Name: huey
Comment: Taurusingr hahahahahaha
Name: javone77
Comment: it is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too much going on up in here.
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: Hey, Taurus *waving* Imma need a drink after reading what this pale face bytch has to say. Mofo economy ain't worth the price of fool's gold and her azz is worried about biracial kids and single parent households. If the government wasn't so busy, these past eight years, making the rich richer we wouldn't be in this mess. Ahhh huey, seems like I hit a nerve I guess you like your bedmates tanned and less dead looking. Did someone say WIC cards? b/c Southern can use some gubment cheese *it makes some great mac/cheese* LOL.
Name: CRENEEJ
Comment: HUEY, i'm not backing off of my statement, but have decided to disagree with you. I know a woman who is making more than me, but because the Section 8 people haven't done their research, is still getting her vouchers, welfare, and every other type of assistance she can get. i don't make that determination of who needs it based on how someone is dressed. i'm not shallow, and again as for what my hubby and i have in our cart MYOB unless you got 5 on it. so now i'm an elitist too...what did u bust me upside my head with? your opinion? didn't even know something hit me til you told me.... you can keep your kum ba yah shyt right on down there in PHILLY. i don't have to defend my opinion to you because in the grand scheme of things, you're one self-proclaimed instigator on the internet. not exactly someone whose opinion i care about or respect, but you do entertain me while @ work. thanks for that.
Name: huey
Comment: CRENEEJ , i may be an instigator but i instigate on the side of rightousness. how bout that. and why u worring bout what someone on gubment assistance make? i think its YOU who need to mind they own business. u all up in folks bitness and dont even know the flavor of they kool aid. mind yo bitness why dont cha. thats why u probably struggling, u need to pay more attention to what is going outta your household and less concerned with what is coming into others' households. that what u NEED to do.
Name: barnone
Comment: this whole theory that biracial celebs embrace their "black side" 2 promote their careers is completely unfounded. what is the basis...FACTUAL. furthermore u completely removing the societal impact of these people's everyday realities. could berry or moore b cast n a role as a yt woman or man? this entire argument is just fallacy.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Southernbelle: You knooooooow "that's" right! sml! And ya know?, Mos Def was on Bill Maher bout of year ago almost, along with Cornel West! Mos said...of course Obama's gonna win! Hell, yall don't ever give us shyt until/unless it's all fukked up! Now "that" was WAY BEFORE this economy thang! I agreed with the brotha then?, but I didn't know his as-s was "psychic"! LOL!!
Name: huey
Comment: Southernbelle ..if i woke up in the morning and that ugly white woman was laying in the bed next to me i would gouge my own eyes out....hahahaa
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Southernbelle: BTW?...whatcha drankin!?? LOL!
Name: musbdherbs
Comment: Crenee..at some points we realize that having certain conversations is a lost cause. The one u r currently engaging in is one of those. You can't make sense out of senselessness.
Name: barnone
Comment: ok, i thought every1 on this board w/ any sense had already come 2 the conclusion that creenj has issues and 2 take 99% of what she writes w/ a grain of salt. ne1 who would accuse someone of marrying his wife 2 gain browny points w/ the black community so he could run 4 prez of u.s. n 10 years, can't be wrapped 2 tight.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: barnone: Daaaaaaaayum! it's like "that"!? Then yep!! I concur!! sml!
Name: huey
Comment: barnone --u nailed it, she is a nutty as box honey nut cheerios
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: Hey Taurus, can you mix a Hurricane?
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Southernbelle:....Uhh,"cheeeeeeeeah"! sml! One "Katrina" coming up!!! LOL!!
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: Anorexic Ann paints with a broad brush. She also uses the broadness of her brush to paint over inconvenient facts/truths. Beyond being intellectually lazy, it's very dangerous as well. Her concern though is not studious examination of the subjects she wishes to discuss, but to cherry pick the hot button issues, which of course sells books.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >huey - now why did you go and insult my favorite cereal? That's messed up, man.
Name: detroitgee
Comment: Ok so I'm gonna throw this up against the wall and see if it sticks. If we look at our histories we are all bi-racial. My Dads mom was mixed -- her mother was the victim of the slave master. My blood is mixed with so much junk - Fred Sanford would leave it on the side of the road. I thought Ann Coulter was brave to sit there - I believe Ms Sherrie will t-off on you
Name: javone77
Comment: queenie: what's up super z?!?!?!??! lol
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: To restate dcdoug's statement in ebonics that would read.....This bony heiffer is just spewing a bunch of bs without providing facts only hoping to make a quick buck. In some circles your azz would get cut for this LOL.
Name: khufu
Comment: Ann Coluter represents the majority of white folks in America...let's be clear
Name: khufu
Comment: you must remember two things: the white woman is scared.....as yt's become the minority who stands to lose the most? White women...they caint have babies and they fear the genetic anniliation of their seed...their eggs..their off spring...yt woman is scared and AC speaks to and for them
Name: khufu
Comment: aaahh sheet DETRTGEE..that's the wrong azz argument to make.....why not make the argument that we are all African? That we're all bi racial stanks of: "Caint we all just get along?" too accomodationalist.....
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: Ah, thank you for breaking it down, Southernbelle. That was like the white cop/Black cop on "Sanford and Son," with me playing the white cop and you playing the Black cop.
Name: HarrisThomas
Comment: believe this FACT - Name: khufu Comment: Ann Coluter represents the majority of white folks in America...let's be clear
Name: khufu
Comment: BRANDON...there are historically more white criminals in AMerican than any other ethnic group....and most are Chritian, educated and from upstanding/outstanding families...loot the Bush and Clinton and Madeoff and just about all them
Name: khufu
Comment: "them" being innatley criminal, lying, thieving azz yt's
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: HarrisThomas: A whole LOT of whites?...Hell yeah!!!! But THE majority?...I don't know bout "that"! Obama got elected not b/c of Us per say..."we" were still sniffin the Clintons as-es! It was the Whites (NOT "YT" BTW!!) who kept Obie in the game 1st!!! Let's be "clear" about....."that"! sml!
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: Herb> LOL... that last statement is too funny and on point. LOL
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: barnone> creenj made a state like that? Okay, I know who we are dealing with.
Name: khufu
Comment: here we go defending yt's...y do Black folks always do that? Not all Black folks but those who find it necessary to say, (Stepnfetchit-like) "Nat allz dem bad....."
Name: khufu
Comment: The majority of white people including liberal ones are racist and white cultural supremacist.......grasp this: while the minority of yt's owned slaves, the majority of yt's did nothing to abolish or even challenge slavery......so what does that mean?
Name: khufu
Comment: I say that if you asked all the yt's who supported Obama these two questions, their answers would be racist: 1) was jesus a Black man? and 2) should Black people receive reparations? Now, the majorty of yt's who voted for Obama would not say YES to wither of those questions.........what does that say?
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Khufu:..."I" am the LAST person to "defend" YT!! "I" just make the DISTINCTION BETWEEN "YT" & White people!! And what "I" said?...IS/are the facts! "I" don't have a problem with the truth even when it doooooooes fall in White people's yard! Holla! (If you want!)
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Khufu: Also (my brotha!) What YOU said doesn't mean that what "I" said isn't ALSO the truth! Bottomline?..everythang ain't Black or White! And this shyt?, this shyt right hurr? "IS" one of those times!
Name: khufu
Comment: TAURUS....okay....what isnt Black and white? Name one social ailment anywhere in the world that caanot be attributed to yt? Seriously.
Name: khufu
Comment: WIthin the contect of this story, these same liberal yt's who go after Anne Coluter, didnt they go after the Black young lady who was there before Whoppi?
Name: Penelope
Comment: And Ann Coulter is reading the blog going, 'See I told you I was right.' Wow, she gets to foster hatred among us. How sad.
Name: khufu
Comment: Now, there are some John Brown's of the world but they are few and far between and even many, if not most of them suffer from white cultural superiority...thing is: they are more open to owning their sheet and working towards changing it.......we know this when we generally and generically say "Yt's" or "whitey." WHy is it always nevessary to say then...."Nots allz dem bad..." That reminds me of when yt's used to say "Niggah..." and then there would be those Black folks who say," We caint get mad at yt's when we have rappers...."
Name: khufu
Comment: Penelope pitstop please stop....see, all those kinds of comments, whether one knows it or not, gives yt's too much fooken power........
Name: khufu
Comment: Ann Coulter is a spokesperson for the majotiy the white American population...any Black person who does not know..THAT'S THE SADE STATEMENT....
Name: Penelope
Comment: Khufo...I don't think I'm giving Ann Coulter power. I'm just reading the board. And trust and believe Ann Coulter is searching any website that has her name in it. She said so. She said that her and her kind are the only right people in the world. Now wee have to start attacking our own. I don't know Hallie, Mariah, Wentworth or what the so-called famous folks call themselves. Every biracial person I know personally however, considers themselves Black. And there are people who have the nerve without walking in their shoes to say how these folks have availed themselves of some ill-gotten privilege. Yeah. OK. I got some land I want to sell you in Wasilla.
Name: khufu
Comment: WAKE UP: Obama's election did not make the majority of yt's love you....stop making that same mistake that was made about both the emancipation of slaves and de-segration...........why Blakc folks keep faling for symbolic wins and not on the achievemnt of collectiv power as the real indication of progress?
Name: khufu
Comment: Penelope when you say that she reads this and thinks....who cares? to even suppose or consider that she reads and has a comment means she has space in your head..."what does A Culter think about what we talk abouut?" who gives a sheet?
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Khufu: Yo mayn!...I feeeeeeel you!! fa show!!!, understand me!!! Buuuut, what I said about Obie's election iiiiiiiiiiiz the truth! Now, that doesn't mean that I think all White people are good ole folks!! Hell Naw!!!!!!! It just means that I recognize the differnce between "YT" & those who ARE White?, but do NOT have YT characteristics!..E.I.? those who got Obie in the muthafukkin White House! But otherwise mayn?...we're ><!! Ahiiiiight!? One!
Name: khufu
Comment: Im with you Penelope....my issue, and the last for the day, is that these individuals should not be dismissed as voices alone in the wilderness...they are in the wilderness with a whole lot of albino wolves...she is a pack leader.....Anne Coulter speaks for the majority of yt's
Name: SilentJay
Comment: People please...Does this woman have PhD in Sociology a/o Political Science as far as I know she doesn't. Apparently she did take a class on Microsoft Word. She's over opinionated under informed mouth piec for the ultraconservative right trying to sell books.
Name: Penelope
Comment: A. Coulter has a law degree (JD). I'm with you though. I think that there are so people who think like her that we don't really know about. Don't forget, she hates jews, blacks, biracials, anybody who is nonwhite. There are many others like her. Hurts my mind to see Black folks co-sign with her. I'm not saying in all her manuer she doesn't make valid points, but she is like the corner derelict. Those cogent moments are all rendered moot by the rest of her conversation.
Name: Stephanie
Comment: As Queenie said, the bottom line is, "hate sells".
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: @Mas90. I know folk use numbers every day, but numbers are not always an accurate %*$essment of what is going on because they are manipulated. I'm not saying I don't use them, numbers are a necessity. But me, realuvbaby, the individual does not trust them. I've seen numbers crunched, manipulated, etc. to meet some agenda, but the numbers had absolutely nothing to do with the truth of the situation. The numbers were needed to make someone look good or bad, but to hide the truth. I know my thoughts are a little idealistic, but I assure you that I am a logical and realistic individual. Madoff made off with 50 billion dollars, don't you think he was able to deceive his victims using numbers?
Name: Mas90
Comment: REALUV... MADOFF did deceive peopel with numbers. Did you not see the statements he was sending out to people monthly showing where their money was going to????? That man played everyone from Hollywood riches to poor Anna Belle and her life savings
Name: BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: Anne will get hers for real.. Funny how Liz kinda tilted towards the other though? I guess it wasn't her platform, and I know for sure she hasn't changed her hateful ways towards any subject that could be positive in different lights. Especially when Whoppi threw out there Sarah Palin and her Daughter's pregancy. Liz didn't touch that with a single thought! She knew that is she did Whoppi would of tore her and Anne up in a single eye blink!
Name: ChosinFew
Comment: Please stop the "bi-racial" foolishness. There is only one race however, there are many ethnic groups. The USA is the only country hung up on this so-called "race" stupidity. Once and for all Tiger does not say he is a "Cablanasian". He said he thought that when he was a little kid, he doesn't now. His father has white ancestors so that is where the caucasion part came from. The fact many whites only bring up the "why aren't they calling themselves white or bi-racial/mixed race when the person they are talking about is rich and famous. Ask Black American with very light skin who isn't rich and famous if anyone white every considered them anything but Black. Or if any white person ever asked them "why don't you say you're white?" They could care less until you have fame and fortune, then they want you to become something other than a Black American. It isn't the "one drop" law, it is the right of a person to be what they want to be and not be defined by some skinny white tramp like Coulter. The devil is a liar, he is the father of lies, don't let his imps and children deceive. These devils will always try and define you and make you think you what they want you to be.
Name: PgDn
Comment: Sorry, just watched what she said and I have to agree with some of it. Black folks have been conditioned to not accept responsibility and to act childish. We know the legacy of slavery. Sheree and Whoopi are taking her comments personally. How many abortions did Sherry have and how many kids does Whoppi's single daughter now have? If I'm not mistaken Whoppi's daughter had her first child when she was 16. I see it everyday at my daughter's school where women with 3 - 5 kids are still getting pregnant and remaining unmarried. In my family, cousins with kids by 2 - 3 different men. And now Jill Scott pregnant but engaged. Eddie denying his child with Scary Spice...the list goes on. My own father had two kids with a woman he met who had 5 kids already but was seperated from her husband. Both of them were over 30/ What were they thinking? At some point folks have to take responsibility for their actions. contraceptives are out there. If you can afford to get your weave done, rims for your car, every cable channel known to man, then you can pay for some pills, condoms etc. Here where i live a young Black man just shot at some cops on the highway while yelling for them to kill him. He's in the ICU now waiting to die. A young Black man is on trail for shooting and killing a 10 year old Black girl playing on the street last year in front of her house. Something IS wrong. Ann may not have the answers and she may not be saying it in a nice way but SOMETHING IS WRONG and the first step in solving a problem is to admit one exists.
Name: ChosinFew
Comment: You are drinking the kool-aid of the devil. You think whites don't have bas&%$d kids? Look at that tramp Jolie. A Black kid shoots another and he its always called "gang related", he is called a thug and a common criminal. White kids go into schools and kill a dozen kids and several teachers and they are called "disturbed" or "abused". Wake up and stop falling into the trap that these devils have set for you.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: Ann Coulter and her base are longing for the days of Ronald Reagan when they were "in". I'm not surprised by her attack on the black community, because I remember when Reagan cited "welfare mothers" as the worst thing that happened to America.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: Check this out: Conservative politicians have a talent for telling memorable anecdotes that capture the essence of their beliefs on any particular issue. One of the most enduring of these came from Ronald Reagan on the subject of welfare. He cited a Chicago "Welfare Queen" who had ripped off $150,000 from the government, using 80 aliases, 30 addresses, a dozen social security cards, and four fictional dead husbands. The country was outraged; Reagan dutifully promised to roll back welfare; and ever since, the "Welfare Queen" driving her "Welfare Cadillac" has become permanently lodged in American political folklore. Unfortunately, like most great conservative anecdotes, it wasn't really true. The media searched for this welfare cheat in the hopes of interviewing her, and discovered that she didn't even exist. As a bit of class warfare, however, it was brilliant. It diverted public attention from insider traders in their limousines to Welfare Queens in their Cadillacs, even though the former were stealing thousands of times more from the American people than the latter. Just one example of the cost of white collar crime would become apparent a few years later, when President Bush bailed out the Savings & Loans industry with $500 billion of the taxpayer's money -- enough to fund 20 years of federal AFDC. Questions of class warfare aside, there is no evidence that there is a significant problem with welfare cheating. In 1991 less than 5 percent of all welfare benefits went to persons who were not entitled to them, and this figure includes errors committed by the welfare agency. Nor are people getting rich off welfare. The two largest welfare programs are Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) and food stamps. In 1992, the average yearly AFDC family payment was $4,572, and food stamps for a family of three averaged $2,469, for a total of $7,041. (2) In that year, the poverty level for a mother with two children was $11,186. (3) Thus, these two programs paid only 63 percent of the poverty level, and 74 percent of a minimum wage job. There are other welfare programs, of course, but they either pay a minuscule fraction of these two programs, or, if larger, are collected by only a small percentage of welfare recipients. The typical welfare recipient remains among the poorest members of society.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: So, its an old re-vamped story by Conservatives. They love red meat and must feed off of something. Watch out for the re-hashing of principles from the Reagan Era. They are desperate to get back there and Ann Coulter is just as tool for the vitriol. They lost and cannot stand it. So they will not play nice the whole time. They are going to rattle our collective cages until they can defeat us and return to their glory days. But I hope the days of the Republican Conservatives are over. There is an evil and wicked distortion of the truth that is so disturbing because it is so insidious.
Name: realuvbaby
Comment: @MAS 90 . . . I rest my case . . . those numbers on those statements HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REALITY THAT THOSE PEOPLE WERE GETTING RIPPED OFF. THEY LOOKED AT THOSE NUMBERS EVERY DAY AND THOUGHT THEY WERE COOL, BUT THE NUMBERS WERE BEING USED TO L I E AND D E C E I V E the masses.
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