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Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Ooooo shyt!, all the "females" g'on be mad about "this" shyt! Hey yall, just tell yourselves Chris is "Halle's lil bruh"!, "that" oughta make it ...."easier to swallah"! See, if ANY stars get away with shyt?, then it shouldn't be exclusive to a certain gender! And since yall are "progressive/strong/independent & "FAIR"?, then...."this pill", won't be so bad. P.S...here's a different view for yah, what "if" C.B. took this deal to keep Ri from being "cross examined"! The accounts of that incident DO say SHE started it! Aaaaaaand HER camp wanted them to be able to be at the same place at the same time! Now...WTF do yall think "that" shyt was about!?? Hmmmm??? They BOTH did wrong & now the end of it has come!, so now can we puuuuullleeeeeeeeeeze "turn the channel" off this shyt!?? I bet "they" ain't thinkin bout this shyt not NEARLY as much as....the "public" (so...."wunt sum "wawda"!?)
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Lol@Taurus. Nah I'm actually cool wit it. Chris was never going to come out smelling of roses even if Rihanna started it or she'd been continually beatin him up, u know why?? THE PICTURE. Unless Chris provided a similar picture where he was equally bruised then he didn't stand a chance. Oh and another thing if Rihanna did half the things Chris' camp were sayin she did why didn't they counter sue???? Lawd knows if it was me, if I'm gettin a criminal record you're gettin one too, we both goin down.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: By the way whatever happen to Bishop Thomas Weeks? the dude who beat up his wife prophetess Juanita Bynum. Was he sentenced? I don't recall! last I heard he said the devil made him do it! hmmm I read yesterday he's just gotten engaged to another prophetess, soon to be third wife *shrugs*. I'm not shocked to hear rnb singer Joe was abusive, domestic abuse is rife, my friend told me once she witnessed Kci from Jodeci beatin up Mary J Blige in the VIP area of a club. Sigh
Name: BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: how old is Joe?
Name: Reds
Comment: Chris must be thnking he got a sweet deal, except of course for that 50 yards. Well, they can always have a secret hookup.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Joe is 36 next month. His albums haven't been doing too well lately maybe he was taking his frustration out on his woman. *shaking head*
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: Well there you have it. Chris Brown is officially a felony. Can't vote; can't own a gun, travel is limited, etc. And as far as Joe goes, I thought he only wanted to know what turns a woman on, not beat the sh*t out of her. And why was it just the woman's daughter speaking out and not the woman herself?
Name: McNasty
Comment: I'm glad this is finally over. He's accepted a deal he can live with and will be monitored by his home state for the next 5 years. Of course that's not gonna be enough for some people but they didn't ask what you thought. He got what he got - including having to stay away from five head and a bigger blip in his career than he has yet to realize. It is what it is!
Name: McNasty
Comment: MsBlake last I heard Weeks was trying to do a reality show!lol Now he's engaged - again?! The woman who said yes to him will definitely live to regret it. Doesn't seem any of these people bothered to spend some time with a qualified professional.
Name: McNasty
Comment: Taurus - luv you bro - please stop generalizing. You've read too many comments that didn't vilify the boy through this process made by women. I never believed this was an isolated incident - I do believe they both got as good as they gave. The last time left overwhelming evidence of what had been going on - she was out as a beaten female and he as a boy willing to hit.
Name: nightshift
Comment: I guess they really had the "goods" for him to plead out like that. I too am glad this romper-room-trying-to-be-grown-%*$! is over.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: McNasty a reality show for Weeks?? really?? *shaking my head*. I saw a picture of his fiance she's pretty and much younger than Juanita. Maybe if she doesn't talk back she wont get beat, I dunno! I'm prayin for her though!
Name: TJthemilitant
Comment: Aww Lawd! Say it ain't so JOE!!!!
Name: lavender
Comment: --->McNasty are you sure you're a woman? I only ask because I notice when articles are about certain stuff you have a tendency to blame women for everything even if the man is clearly at fault.....I don't know what happened between chris & rihanna and nor do I care but I was just curious about why you are so hard on women.
Name: lavender
Comment: -->McNasty....excuse me, except whitney & halle because you will defend them no matter what they do or say.
Name: MrUnapologetic69
Comment: Actually, I am happy from Chris because no matter what happens he will be tainted by this for the rest of his career and he won't be able to spin it for his good. This way he doesn't have to burdened with going to jail. It's time to move on now... Rihanna has.
Name: Lorraine315
Comment: It seems women have forgotten the legendary tales of Al Green's and Lionel Richie's ex wives--HOT GRITS AND BASEBALL BATS! Joe beating up the Momma of a Cheetah Girl- WTF is going on. The last thing these male abusive celebs want is to have footage of them at the er getting hot grits pulled of their a$$ on TMZ.com. Hell even Anna Mae Bullock got fed up and whupped Ike's a$$
Name: ss69054
Comment: Good riddins I am so glad this is over. This is very fair for Chris and I hope he gets the help that is needed. Both can move on and hopefully stay the heck away from each other. As far s Joe, wow that is something but still can't confirm if this is true. The mother never came out in public. No comment for Weeks continous buffoonery actions. LoL!!
Name: sultry
Comment: why don't Kelly shut the f up? why now people trying to talk about things thta they say happened. She need to get on her own 15 minutes of fame show to get this out there. everybody want to hold on to the 15 minutes for 16 minutes. i am glad that this is over for chris/ri. now they can move on. the stay away order will be lifted. trust me.
Name: 1VAsweetsexy
Comment: WAIT A MINUTE!!! I had to put my glass of OJ down...SHUT MY MOUTH WIDE OPEN..and here I was thinking Joe was one of the good ones frm his lyrics and what not...I always wanted to know why couldn't he find him a nice young lady...well, now I know and knowing is half the battle
Name: McNasty
Comment: Lavender I've said numerous times on this board that I am a beautiful black woman and if you've read my post such that you remember that I defend Whit and Halle you should know that. I'm as hard on men as I am women and while I don't know the specific details - cause none of us were there I stand by my posts regardless of what you may think of them. Now - how about you share your thoughts on the article and get off my crotch. Thanks much!
Name: McNasty
Comment: MsBlake - it was here a few months back - don't know what happened to it though. It would have been ill timed and since he had not a leg to stand on it was in his best interests to go and live his life privately.
Name: Grace12_34
Comment: LMAO@McNasty ... @1VAsweetsexy, I always thought the same thing about Joe. I'm shocked and disgusted with the man now!
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Domestic abuse is never an easy topic to talk about, the Chrianna case may have given the Cheetah girl strength to finally speak out, also her mother may have been terrified or did not feel the need to speak to the media and embarass Joe. I dunno I'm guessing here. I've got two of Joe's albums and seen him in concert too, I always thought he was a cool dude. I dunno why he did what he did but what I know for sure is he is not alone.
Name: 1VAsweetsexy
Comment: Now as for my hometown peep(Chris)...I knew there were feelings still involved..but by Rhianna asking the judge to not stop her communication with him just proves me to Rhianna had more of an involvement in the fight then bloggers and media pictured it..
Name: McNasty
Comment: 1VA you've just committed a mortal sin as far as Ms.Lavender is concerned - hopefully she's over herself and realizes that it takes two to keep this kind of shyt going and both share equal blame. People got riled up because of the pictures but its a good bet that if any of them had seen that fight they would be as quiet as church mice now. We would all like to believe that the woman being the weaker sex means that the man automatically can do more harm than she can. I know better than that - besides that I live in real time and have seen females incite riots in their own homes.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: McNasty, I understand he introduced his wife-to-be during his recent birthday bash, posting pictures all over facebook n' myspace. His wifey is Prophetess Christina Glenn. I'm guessin she's in her late twenties or early thirties. They're both pretty loved up and their messages are posted publicly. This could be third time lucky!
Name: eddie
Comment: I am NOT a fan of Rihanna ,she sucks .Rihanna aim an objective was attention,if she did not get attention ,then her plan was to DESTROY Chris Brown,and any other who came into contact with her.Rihanna is a typical woman,their aim ,goal and object is to DESTROY man,because from Eve was placed in the gardon Eden,She began the DESTRUCTION of the Human Race.
Name: FiveMore
Comment: Chris, do you see what that azz whipping has got you?...Man,you should have just walked away or something because your career is pretty much over and America will label you as such.A young crazed batterer!
Name: 1VAsweetsexy
Comment: I agree McNasty..I ride for Halle, Whitney, Mary J. Blige, Keyshia Cole and any other black female or male becuz society does enough of depicting our people as ignorant, ghetto individuals..and if they won't acknowledge them then damn it who will
Name: sweetpea
Comment: WOW! She put JOE on blast. You just never know what people are going through or what they are doing. I figured that Chris would take the plea and I'm glad he is not doing jail time and he gets the help he needs.
Name: mocha
Comment: Kids are extremely affected when they witness domestic violence. she probably feels relief and vindication by outing this man finally. Anyway Karma is a B and there is probably more pain in Joe having fame and losing it than never having it at all.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: *Does triple WTF at eddie's post...You must be the comedy relief...Making crazy-azzed statements..."gardon Eden" WTF is that?..."Ya'll wimmen need to stop this destruction of the human race"...Stop this sh1t immediatley!!!...Honestly, I'm glad women were placed in the "gardon Eden"...Everytime I look at a woman...It lets me know God is for real...
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: So many topics here. Let me add my 5 cents...eddie - what insane asylum did you escape from? And why can't you form a sentence properly? What are you, like 14 yrs old?...Re: Chris and Rihanna, well I hope it's all over and that when the final sentencing happens we don't have to hear about it anymore. Re: Weeks - she needs to get on her knees and try to get her access to her own future so she don't get the sh*t beat outta her in a hotel parking lot like wife #2. Re: Joe. Baby girl put his azz on blast. What if it's not true? Isn't that slander if it's not true? (I can't remember whether a claim being in writing is slander or libel - Exmun, help out). Y'all were sure quick to believe this former baby cheetah...Oh, and I never really saw McNasty's comments as being misogynistic. I would've recognized it but of course, I come down on women for stuff too. It ain't always the men doing sh*t - ex. - treating your kids like pawns because you're mad at the babby-daddy....I think that about does it.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Boot - I have said many times that when I get to heaven, I'm kickin' Eve's azz all around them clouds. Every 26 days I cuss out that b*tch! Soon as I get through the gates, I'm gettin' at that trick. Trust...then I'm gonna ask about all the conspiracy theories, then I'm gonna eat whatever I want cuz I won't get fat. But first, Eve - watch out, heifa!
Name: 1VAsweetsexy
Comment: Damn!! eddie and to FiveMore - I really don't believe Chris career is over because look at all the other people who have done the same if not worse and careers are flourishing like a water stream..case in point look at W -he is out doing speeches and getting paid for it and Dick Cheney is out in the public bashing Obama..
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: B00T, I feel the same way about men. Smooches, beloved!
Name: MsBlake
Comment: LOl@Boot. Yeah I saw Eddie's post and thought true Rihanna ain't no saint but that whole 'her aim, goal and object is to destroy man.....' was a.....um.... lil much.lol. Prolly just thrown in there to spark a hot men vs women debate.
Name: yunvme
Comment: His career isn't over because his target audience is teenagers, and for the most part they are dumb. They have no attention span and what happened in the past wont matter, it will be all about his "new song" and his dance moves.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >yunvme - I wouldn't call young folk "dumb" but I do agree with what you seem be saying. I think young people are blase' about a lot of things that folks around my age find disturbing. They are exposed to too much. These kids grew up watching R-rated movies and sometimes their parents' porn collections. They play violent video games where women get beat up all the time. They get and give blow jobs regularly at school and have anal sex like it's nothing (I've heard that the girls do both so they can stay "virgins"). They still smoke and do drugs and take prescription drugs and "huff" from cleaning supplies to get high even though campaigns and PSAs against it have been on TV since they were twinkles in their daddies' eyes. They are the most clueless generation that has ever been thus far. And the sad thing is that people my age are to blame. People in their 30s-40s are the ones raising their kids "differently" yet not better and as a result we have kids you speak of. Sad. Just sad.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: And I forgot the misogynistic, violent, materialistic music they listen to with no sensoring by their parents. It's awful and parents don't realize that kids/teens brains are not developed enough to handle all of this negative media.
Name: yunvme
Comment: your right for once ;-) CLUELESS would have been a better word than dumb. I totally agree with your statement about the 30/40 year old generation being responsible for these bad azz kids.
Name: naturalsista
Comment: Had to come out of lurking on Eddie's post. WTH are you inhaling this early in the morning? Anyhoo the judge also told Rihanna it's not a one-way order —and that she, too, shouldn't get any closer to Brown than the order allows.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >yunvme - "you're right for once" (notice the correction of "your")... I'm holding my hands up in a big "W" for whateva! I'm right always! I once thought I was wrong but I was mistaken. :p
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >naturalsis - It almost seemed like the implication was that Rihanna didn't really want to have a stay-away order in place, like she wants to get at him some more.
Name: dakoolestkat
Comment: Lmao@ Eddie's awful grammar, bad punctuation, run ons, and incomplete sentences! Moron
Name: Mas90
Comment: You're suprised about R&B singer JOE... well, it takes two. When will women stop provoking sh*t. Now this cheetah girls needs to get her azz beat by JOE. JOE already kicked her mother's azz and now he has to go beat down the daughter too. Talk about keeping it in the family. GEEZ! When will you learn to keep your mouth shut.
Name: TheQuietGuy
Comment: I knew he would not get jail time. Hopefully they can both move on with their lives but MR. Brown will always have that batterer moniker attached to his name and that is not cool. We must think before we act...
Name: naturalsista
Comment: queenie you are correct because rihanna thought the order was too severe given that they attend the same industry functions.
Name: TGen
Comment: I saw Chris Brown in "This Christmas" again over this past weekend. I had forgotten about that movie, but I remember going to see it and thinking, "this guy has 'it.'" I felt the same way after seeing it again. I say that to say I co-sign 1VASweetsexy, I don't believe his career is over. (I think your comparison with criminal Cheney--a priveledged, White politician--problematic, lol), but I think you're right. I think Chris should thank his lawyers as it seems they did a pretty good job. I also read that he's working with a top-notch PR firm who's coaching him on how to get back in the public's good graces. Add a little (or a lot of) therapy and he might just make it through. Regarding Joe, how TACKY and IMMATURE both of the girl (entertainer I guess?) to put her MOM'S PRIVATE business on blast like that, and how equally immature for posters to condemn the man simply based on this girl's accusation. She's PROBABLY telling the truth--but you don't know that for sure. There is a such thing as due process, no? Geez...
Name: fuzzygoss
Comment: You know what makes me tickled inside, most black blog participants harped about Rihanna's attire. Big flipping deal, she covered up as she should have!!!! But the funny bone that's tickled deep inside....many of them did not know what a domestic violence counseling program entailed. BUT they definitely knew how to criticize what Rihanna wore. Dumb a$$es! No wonder we are so far behind and still going backwards.
Name: McNasty
Comment: MsBlake unless he's done something about his propensity to beat a sistah down this little girl bet not grow up and find a mind of her own. I wish him well but there was an actual witness to what he did and bro'man got fist-s problems.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: What woman wants a man to beat on her? Stop making excuses for people doing in humane behavior. So what people are successful but at what cost no soul, no heart. Cream rising to the top but so does the scum of the earth. Ladies what's important to you or what not to get caught up into?
Name: msmissy
Comment: Good move Chris, you made the right decision. They would've found u guilty of something, so better u plead guilty to a lesser charge and stay free to continue with your career.
Name: McNasty
Comment: Co sign 1VA! We all pick and choose whose cause we champion - I don't knock anyone else s choice and didn't expect to have anyone coming after me AND I didn't even dog the girl out. Whatever - you like who you like and I try to support those in my community and especially when they show some growth!
Name: BlkATLTop
Comment: Chris Brown will still have an audience as long as he stays with a black audience. the cross-over potential to white folks (which is where he was heading )is gone. Look at R-Uh. He's done gawd-knows what to young girls and he still gets airplay on black radio.
Name: Mas90
Comment: Ree-Hana-Bara needs to attend "Don't Provoke-A-%*$!( Seminars for Women Only". She'll learn to walk away. It's always on the man to walk away but a women can do the typical hand slap to the face. A slap forward deserves a slap back. Plus, she should've never threw the car keys. Doing that just cause more sh*t but nobody talks about what the woman did. It's all on the man. Backward society! Good thang I'm gay... I can kick my azz left and right and it's okay.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Blk - and I can't stand R. He is vile and disgusting to me and I can't stand to even hear his music or see his face. Everybody knows he did nasty things with those girls and that he married a 15 yr old (Aliyah) but they still listen and "Step in the Name of Love" and I truly don't understand why. Blech.
Name: McNasty
Comment: Mas don't get stuck cause there are plenty of men that think its their right to swing on a woman just cuz.
Name: Reds
Comment: dcdouglass01: "Well there you have it. Chris Brown is officially a felony. Can't vote; can't own a gun, travel is limited, etc." ... And better keep selling records or producing people who does, cuz he don't want to be out there in the regular job market with that coming up on a background check.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: MsBlake: Ummmm, I DID say "females" NOT women! And "I" consider you?, a WOMAN, so....still think I 'm "generalizing"!?? sml! (I like you! SML!!) Plus, by MOST accounts on "this" board at least, what I posted IS correct! "You" might not have, but most "females" DID throw lil dude "under the bus"!, & without ANY regard for what Ri might've contributed! It always fascinates me how when someone does something ONE TIME?, they automatically have "a problem' & gotta go get counseling/rehab! WTF! But aaaaaaaanyway, these KIDS need to GTF up & stop acting like "dey don't know" dey as-ses are on camera 24/7! "That" after all, is WTF they "signed up for"! Wah wah wah waaaaaaaah!
Name: dede0320
Comment: Queenie, I want to join in to, I have a lot of beef with Eve, LOL!!!Becuase of her I am a crazy byotch for a week out of the month, LOL... I am so glad this ish is over, Mas you are right, women, don't provoke a man to hit you, if you constantly do ish he will. Don't get it twisted either, I don't condone Domestice violence but dang, why would you be all up in somebody's face that might possibly give your azz a beatdown? Why all the drama.?
Name: eddie
Comment: Women are God's gift to man.I LOVE ALL Woman.
Name: Reds
Comment: McNasty: “People got riled up because of the pictures but its a good bet that if any of them had seen that fight they would be as quiet as church mice now.” … There wasn’t a fight. It was a beat down. Remember the pics and the blood spewing all over the car. Plus, I don't think Chris even had a scratch.
Name: McNasty
Comment: Taurus that was me that said that - 'xcuse please.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: P.S...WTF isn't anyone asking/making "Ri" go get "some help" for HER anger issues!?? So..."in the middle of" this culture of "equality & correctness", YOU get to "put choe hands on me", b/c YO as-s don't like WTF is callin me!?? WTF!??? See, "that's" WTF I'm talkin bout! You saaaaaay you're equal" but actually?, you're just a "weak"..... "opportunist"! (@ whom it applies, the "females", NOT women!) Sooooo sexy! (said like Jerome in "Purple Rain"!)
Name: McNasty
Comment: Reds in close quarters you better know she swung back - don't think cause he didn't have marks she didn't get her licks in. Besides that in order to get the keys I bet dollars to donuts she was whaling on his beady little head while he was trying to keep those keys.
Name: dede0320
Comment: and regarding that little Cheetah heifer, she needs to take the same class as Joe, she threw a plate of chicken in Naturi Naughton's face, (the pretty dark girl they kicked out of 3LW)and I think she slapped her not sure, because the girl talked back to her and her mom, who are both hell on wheels I heard. Raven did not even want to be a part of the Cheetah girls because of this chick and her mom. I think they need Anger management and when-to-shut-the-f'up classes also. I have not liked this lil gap tooth girl every since.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Taurus, I like u too but ummmm I think you meant to respond to McNasty's post, i.e.10th post.
Name: McNasty
Comment: 'Remember the pics and the blood spewing all over the car.' More like blood slung all over the place - there were more bruises than cuts and a bloody lip can produce enough blood to make it look like a blood bath. Nope - still not backin' up!
Name: Reds
Comment: 1VAsweetsexy: “Damn!! eddie and to FiveMore - I really don't believe Chris career is over because look at all the other people who have done the same if not worse and careers are flourishing like a water stream..” … Can someone say Kobe Bryant?
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: McNasty: Ummmm,..... "HUH"??? LOL!! ("break it down for me" mah, I'm lost!) sml!
Name: dede0320
Comment: No his career is not over, these girls are still saying Rihoenna did something to Chris, and they are not changing their minds. They are also looking at the fact that he is not physically in jail. So no her will still have a career, and besides he beet down a black woman not a yt girl..lets be truthful..
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: McNasty: Oh!!!!! I "got it"! Hey, I had a gig last night! I'm just waking up! I "got choe" thou! sml!
Name: TGen
Comment: Taurusingr: "P.S...WTF isn't anyone asking/making "Ri" go get "some help" for HER anger issues!??" I stated upthread that therapy would do Chris Brown some good...but you are right, this Rihanaa chick needs it just as much. Even beyond the domestic violence, I think I've read where she's posed nude and has had sex tapes leaked and what not, and has had sexual "adventures" with other ladies, so CLEARLY there's more going on with her than just the domestic violence. So yes, you're right, I don't think it's a stretch to say she could use some (or a lot of) therapy herself. Something's "off" about her (I mean besides her mediocre "talent," lol).
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: MsBlake: Ummmm, "I'm shawrry mommy"! SML!
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Reds - It did look like a beat down to me, too. We have to teach our boys that hitting a girl is UNACCEPTABLE. Period. Let's face it. Men are the stronger sex, physically. In some cases that's not true of course but in most cases, it is. That being said, they need to learn to respect that and to restrain themselves because in most "fights" between a man and a woman, the woman is gonna get beaten to a pulp if the man goes off on her enough, like say, Rihanna. People are saying "she shouldn't have started something" without knowing if she did start something. But judging by the photos, if she did, she very quickly lost the fight and got beaten like she stole something. Our boys should be taught to get out of a situation when a girl/woman is up in their face, to restrain her and leave the area. THAT is what boys should be taught. Why? Because if a cop comes into your house and sees a woman crying and a man standing there even if she hit him, the guy's gonna end up on his knees with his hands behind his head getting cuffed before the situation is explored more. So if you want your boy locked up, keep saying that he should hit a girl back. He got a felony conviction because he has $ to get a good lawyer. Everybody ain't in that position...
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: I meant a felony conviction w/no jail time.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Thanks McNasty for pointing that out, I was about to take Taurus outside to re-enact the Chrianna beatdown, but I'd be Chris. Lol Hey Taurus, I got love for u bruh, u know I'm just kidding, but on a serious note though u do raise a valid point about no one talking about Rihanna gettin help.....but here's the difference no one has filed a complaint against her. The only people who are sayin she has anger issues are the blogs and friends of Chris. Not her label or management.
Name: Reds
Comment: Queeniebunz: “It almost seemed like the implication was that Rihanna didn't really want to have a stay-away order in place, like she wants to get at him some more.” … Brown also was ordered to stay at least 50 yards away from Rihanna …despite a request from Rihanna's camp that the pair be allowed at the same place at the same time.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: There is a strong possibility Ri will get counselling after all this drama. During the sessions if it comes out that she has anger issues that need to be addressed then I'm sure she'll go for some classes to learn how to control that.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: TGen: Uhhhh, "bull's eye"! See, "I" ain't about bashin ANYone! "I'm" about being fair & objective! Now, HTH are all these peeps g'on ONLY come down on dude, when the same papers dey read that said dude hit her?, ALSO say SHE started it by swingin/hittin on him!?? See, this "convenient" double standard shyt is the reason for this "twisted logic" & haaaaaaaaaas to stop! Or all that have "it"?, will continue to walk roun hurr "playin solitare" & sayin...."ain't no good men out thurr"! Sheeeeeeesh!
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: Taurus, nobody wants to play solitaire while bad mouthing the opposite sex. The first place my fellow sistas need to check is their hearts. SAME FOR THE GUYS. Isn't it amazing how the wounded attract each other and add to the damage?
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Reds - Your post is a little confusing to me. I think it's known that he can't go near her. The part I'm speaking of is that there is an order in place where she can't go near him, either. Which means that if she does, she can get locked up same as him. It seemed to me like she didn't really want to be restricted from seeing him, like she wants to get back with him. I could be wrong but that's the way it came across when I saw it on the news.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: MsBlake: Yeah, I "see that" buuuuut, you're talkin bout the "legaities" of the situation! While the peeps with their "twisted logic"?, know damn well SHE has issues, but don't wanna make her "deal with" dem issues! "See what I'm sayin"?? It doesn't take females 5 SECONDS to condemn a man/male but, when the truth about "other side" comes out?, mo fo's act like..."oh, it's not "important" to me any more"! WTF!! Yo, instead of bashin one side only?, mo fo's need to go ...."lay on somebody's couch" & work dat shyt owwwwwwwwwut! LOL!!!
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Taurus, double standard? now that ain't anything new, thats just the way it is, ain't nothin gon change. Example - Folks like Halle n' Kim porter et al get cussed out for having a child/children outta wedlock but folks like Angelina Jolie get a pass. Golden Brooks is gettin cussed out on the other thread for being pregnant outta wedlock but ain't no one talkin about jennifer Hudson nor do I remember anyone kickin up a fuss about Nia Long. Don't even get me started on interacial hook ups, some couples catch more heat than others.........its jus the way it is....double standards are here to stay!
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: They didn't have the goods, but what they did have is a picture of Rhianna. But no one can testify to what Rhianna did but Chris, even though Rhianna did say that she hit him in the face while he was driving.
Name: SanDiego
Comment: Who the he11 is Joe? where can I see a picture of him. Chris good luck on your come back
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Oh but Taurus, women do come down on other women too, remember the post from last week about Lil Wayne/Nivea and Lauren london??? The women caught alot of heat from the Eur females, they were condemned mighty fast. At one point it seemed like Lil Wayne's only crime was he wasn't cute. lol I'm jus sayin!!
Name: MsBlake
Comment: SanDiego, His full name is Joe Thomas. He's had a few hits, with Fiddy, Mariah Carey, Big Pun etc.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: JAXXIE: I "feel you"? FOR REAL!,sml!, but YOU may not wanna do that, but a LOT of "females" "do that" & STILL WONDER WHY they cain't fiiiiiind somebody or still hold on to this twist logic, & wonder why they're ALWAYS in a damn argument with the mo fo she .....finally found! WTF!!!??? LOL!!
Name: TGen
Comment: SanDiego: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_(singer) "All That I Am" is an R&B CLASSIC. That was Joe at his best. I'm sure if you heard some of his songs, they'd sound familiar to you. "Love Scene, All the Things, Good Girls, Don't Wanna Be a Player," etc.
Name: SanDiego
Comment: MsBlack, thanks let me check this dude out
Name: SanDiego
Comment: TGen, MsBlack.... That Joe.... you have got to be kindding he's a beater two. I wish a (MF) would.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >MsBlake - Pump the brakes. Who said Jolie gets a pass? I think she's a horrible role model and that she should stop collecting children like stuffed toys and bringing them into a babymama/babydaddy situation. They wouldn't let them adopt the lil boy Pax together. She had to do it as a single mother and then come back and add Pitt as an adoptive father which is shady and dishonest. Even the countries giving these kids up object to bringing children into a home w/unwed parents. She gets no pass from me. And Jennifer Hudson - I think people are giving her a pass 1) because of the tragedy in her life recently and 2) because they are engaged. JMHO. Do I give her a pass? Yeah. Why? Because she is not completely in her right mind. I know this because reproducing with and marrying a man named "Punk" - not such a good thing. He should have "I'm dating this chubby chick so I can get more famous than being a punk on a stupid reality show" on his t-shirt. He is taking advantage of her. She is very vulnerable and he went in for the kill and getting her knocked up, secures the deal. Shady. I do not like this punk, Harvard Law grad or not. His name shoulda been "Pig".
Name: yunvme
Comment: I have to say that as a man I find it disturbing how some women almost justify her getting beat, or feel she has "issues". Is this what you would tell your daughters? That they deserve to be hit cause they dont know their place? I'm confused. You'd still be cool with your daughters man/husband because it was her that hit first? Or would you gather your family and go kick this nuccas azz? Be honest?
Name: MsBlake
Comment: LOl@San Diego, yup thats the one 'allegedly'.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: MsBlake: Again...><! sml! buuuuut, it seems to depend on WHO the other females are! For example, since those females in the story you cited were NOT favs of the "criticizing females"?, then YES!, they will "say something". But/so "that" criticism "usually" has more to do with how those females felt about them BEFORE the incident even happened! (you know, the "haterade" they were drankin!) LOL!! While "others" can marry/date only White men, hit mo fo's in cars & flee, marry for "money only" and the other females KNOW damn well that's WTF the "other" female is/has BEEN doing, use the "virgiiiiiina card" when running for office, etc... (the list goes on & on!) and?, NONE of them "criticizing females" will say......SHYT! So, "it" happens?, but...... "not so much"! Wah wah wah waaaaaaah!
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Co-sign Yunve. When I confronted my cousin who beat up his girlfriend, he told me a woman should know her place in society and not talk back cos he's a MAN (note at the time he was only 26 not 75 years old sayin this crap). I asked him what if a man beat me up like that, he said he would round up the family and beat him up. Clearly theres one rule for some and another rule for others........sigh
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Taurus I totally agree. Queenie, okay I hear ya but what about Nia Long?? Do u not think she gets a pass? and I'm guessin u don't like Hudson's Fiance v much lol
Name: kevobx12
Comment: It's up to women to break this cycle, not just taking away the man's possessions then giving them to next man who did not have to work for it.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Ms. Blake - I don't even know about Nia Long. I'm gonna azzume from your post that she's a babymama but I didn't know that. Since she is - she gets no pass either! No babymama/babydaddy passes issued in queeniebunz-land! Not today, not ever!
Name: lovebites
Comment: well lets see if tmz leaves him alone for a while.
Name: Harriet
Comment: If you confront EVE about menstruation then you will be confronting the wrong person. Eve's "curse" was not menstruation. It was great sorrow and pain during childbirth and the curse between she and the snake which involved bruised heels and such. Menstruation is a body cleansing that must take place in that women are given the special privilege of being co-creators with God. Menstruation is about life cycles and the cleansing of the female body and has more in common with the moon than it does Eve.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >MsBlake - I have family like that. To them, the women in their family "are women but aren't women" in the sense that we aren't to be beat or cheated on at all. Men in my family will cheat on other women without a thought but if a dude cheats on one of us, he'd better watch his back. Men in my family do not hit women, however so that's as far as I can go in similarity with you. My dad never hit my mom even when she got up in his face. He actually picked her up and set her out of the room and shut the door once to keep from busting her in the face but he's never hit or pushed her at all - He hates the idea of jail. Smart man.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Harriet - Nah. She's still gettin' it. All of what you're talking about is "down there" and therefore related. I'ma bust her in her eye!
Name: Harriet
Comment: So the young woman speaks out about another beloved R&B crooner being "distorted" and the first thing we ask is why is the little Cheetah girl running her mouth? I said this yesterday, there is no appropriate time for the truth. The truth is everlasting. Whether you tell it now or years from now it is STILL the truth. I do not understand why we focus so much on the timing instead of the content and what has been said. What gives anyone the right to tell another person when they should discuss the truth? A truth that has harmed THEM and brought THEM pain? Mas90 and eddie- Your comments are highly offensive, erroneous and disrespectful. Your comments are so benign that they are not worthy of a response but both of you need to fall back.
Name: Reds
Comment: Queeniebunz: “I It seemed to me like she didn't really want to be restricted from seeing him, like she wants to get back with him.” … Yes, that’s what I was saying. She didn’t want any restrictions from them seeing each other.
Name: yunvme
Comment: whats this talk about snakes and curses? SMH..and some of you put down Scientology.
Name: dede0320
Comment: I don't condone a man hitting a woman at all, but we also need to start being women, walk away, why argue with someone that is stronger than you. WE want to stay and argue, Riri got a beat down from Chris before, why did she wait until she got the total beatdown before saying anything. I am so sick of these women that want the empowerment thing, but you still talking out the side of your neck, either you are going to be a man or woman, and like I tell my son, DO NOT PUT YOU HANDS ON A WOMAN IN ANY AGGRESSIVE WAY...walk away, and I tell him to walk away from them gayboys like that too, except I tell him to ruuunnnnn far away from them...sorry Mas*)lol,
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Lol@Queenie, yeah Nia Long has a child outside wedlock too. I happen to like all these women regardless of their marital status, I was just trying to explain the whole double standard issue. Its good to hear the men in your family don't beat women, unfortunately mine have been known to do that and try to justify it. Alot of it boils down to insecurity and immaturity but thats another post for another day............
Name: dede0320
Comment: Harriet are you sure Eve isn't the one to blame?, I think it was a curse as well as the chilbirth pains. Can you research that for me, cos Im gonna need to speak with someone when I get there reagrding that, even though I won't have one then, but still, I need some understanding!!LOL
Name: Harriet
Comment: queeniebunz- I hear ya. CB has gone from beating down and running of to entering a prison without bars for the next five years. He has admitted guilt in the situation and bargained for a plea in his sentencing. He has finally accepted his responsibilities and can move on. That is good enough for me. I would like to comment on the way Rihanna has handled this. If she was the emasculating demonizing byatch that many think her to be then she could have done more damage to CB than she did. She did not call the police. Someone else did. Once they were called she cooperated and told them what happened and CB could not refute it because he had run off. She did not become a spokesperson for anyone. She did not sit on Oprah's couch and she didn't part her lips about this. Many said that she played the victim, but I never saw how. She didn't say anything regarding the matter. To me, once her face healed, she attempted to pick up the pieces and went on about her life. Some men think that it makes them a byatch to walk away or to admit to having a violent woman. But the real byatch is the young Black man who has to go to the white man for any and every thing. He cannot travel unless the white man says so. He has abdicated his constitutional right to bear arms because the white man said so. He will be SUPERVISED for the next five years by the white man because his definition of what a real man was, is skewed. Mas90 has already suggested that the alleged beating that Joe gave to the girl's mother needs to be given to her because she dared part her lips about it. Do you see what I am saying? To some men, "controlling" their woman is what makes them a man and keeps them from being perceived as byatches. But I can guarantee you that for the next five years CB is going to feel like a byatch getting focked with no vaseline. This is the lesson that I hope that he is learned. That a woman is not a horse- to be broken. But a human being, to be respected. If he can learn this, then he can grow up to be a real man. He has plenty of time.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Harriet: Hey lady! sml! ok...we have been >< on quite a few issues (you know!, sml!) buuuuuut, I think (at least "I" think!) that the difference with yesterday's posts & today's about the "cheetah girl" is,....no one has EVVA heard of Joe having a "prollum" & this lil chick g'on "use this" to come out about someone who ain't got a damn thang to do with "C.B. OR Ri"! I could see it if she had come out RIGHT WHEN it happened to here & her mom (BTW?, "I" posted the same statement about "it's nevva too late for the truth"!) I just feel many feel "this" lil chick is....."lying lika damn "rug"!, & to try to throw Joe "under the bus" is just malicious, immature & a desperate attempt to be "relevant" again! Holla!
Name: Harriet
Comment: dede0320- There is no biblical basis for EVE being cursed with a period. Not too long ago I finished a month long study on Genesis. So I know for sure what is in that chapter and what is not. (now I am on Exodus). Menstruation is a byatch once a month, but it is a necessary byatch and it is not a curse. Pain in labor is a curse- not a period.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: 1st Corinthians, 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 14:36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. 14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Dede, I knew a guy who was known to beat the crap out of his woman and she was a little shy timid thing. When my brother asked him why he beat her he said at work he was working very hard and was made to feel less than a man by his bosses. He said so when he got home he was the king of his castle, and when the remote control is not where it should be then he feels his woman is disrespecting him and his 'castle', so he teaches her a lesson by beating her. When she finally left he was looking for another girlfriend, he said he was specifically looking for someone who had very low self esteem cos it made him feel powerful. All kinds of women get beat.
Name: yunvme
Comment: I thought a womens period was the curse. All that comes to my mind now is that scene in Carrie (one of my faves) where the crazy azz religious mom tells Carrie that her period was a curse.
Name: Harriet
Comment: Taurisngr- I don't even really know who the little girl is but I do know that in this country, there are many varying forms of abuse that are simply not discussed, and some people need a catalyst in order for them to discuss that issue. Some people are enforced in their speaking by other people speaking out. Hell, Teddy Pendegrass had a clean record as well and many did not want to believe some of his personal choices- until he had the "accident." I just finished reading Dianne Carroll's THE LEGS ARE THE LAST TO GO. If Julia can get her azz kicked by some brother who worked for JET magazine and quit working when she married him, then it isn't a big stretch to believe that JOE will bust your head in before or after he enters the studio and makes some of the most sensual music you have ever heard.
Name: Reds
Comment: Harriet: “So the young woman speaks out about another beloved R&B crooner being "distorted" and the first thing we ask is why is the little Cheetah girl running her mouth?” … Cosign. ... We weren't even there, she was. So how can we try to dress her down for speaking out. You right, just like yesterday with Janet Hubert. I went over to blackvoices and got even more crap that she had to go through with the Will Smith experience. http://www.bvbuzz.com/2009/06/17/sitcom-saga-tv-mom-cl aims-will-smith-was-no-prince/
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Dede, Eve brought down Adam. King Solomon was brought down by his wives(and he was the wisest man on the planet). Why do you think women believe they have so much knowledge (the tree of knowledge).
Name: Harriet
Comment: yunvme- I began that month long study on Genesis because as women, much of what we believe and what is believed about us is based on the bible. So I needed to study it for myself. When I did that, I found two creation stories in Geneisis. One in which the male and the female are created equally and given equal dominion over the earth,, and one in which the woman comes after the man and is subject to him. I also found absolutely no evidence to support that menstruation is a curse. The curse that God verbalized to EVE had nothing to do with menstruation, but child labor pains and a hateful relationship between the serpent and her self. The serpent was cursed to crawl on its belly and eat dirt and the ground was cursed because of Adam. But there is no curse from God about menstruation. Further, in tbe new testament you will find those who speak of menstruation as a curse but that is not of God. Feel free to check it for your self.
Name: Mas90
Comment: dede..."I tell him to walk away from them gayboys like that too, except I tell him to ruuunnnnn far away from them." What you said was complete typical black community ingnorance. But I will say this.. if your son is gay, he will run towards them. Infact, saying to stay away from gays, will only just make him move closer. So thank you... how old is your son? I haven't had ayoung cutie in awhile.
Name: TGen
Comment: I wonder how some can say something is "true" with NO PROOF, NO CONFESSION, NO NOTHING. The "little girl is being dressed down" because it's IGNORANT to put SOMEONE ELSE'S BUSINESS IN PUBLIC...and to what end? What is her point? If her mom wants to file charges or something, then so be it, but inserting your MOM'S PRIVATE AFFAIRS into an unrelated, highly publicized news story is IGNORANT and counterproductive. I can't believe after all the times we've seen people get falsely accused ANYONE would presume to believe an unproven allegation, just based on what? Because someone said so? Were there some photos or something I missed? A police report? ANYTHING besides this girl's accusation? I mean, come on people. I even MIGHT give a pazz if it was she, herself being abused, but NOT someone else. That's offensive to both mom and mom's [alleged] abuser (who could lose his livelihood over such an allegation. You cannot just spit out ignorant ish and expect no backlash--at least not from people who try to be discerning.
Name: jess
Comment: Brown should have to perform his community service in a battered women shelter. Maybe then he will learn how badly domestic violence affects women AND children.
Name: Mas90
Comment: REDS..."She didn’t want any restrictions from them seeing each other." Ree-hana-bara wants that dyck still!
Name: Harriet
Comment: kevbox12- Feel free to interpret as you see fit. I don't argue religion. But anyone who really studies the Bible will concur that it is filled with weak cowardly men and Adam was the first.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Harriet: YES!! I know there are many forms of abuse! AND?, there are many ways to "LIE"! The "issue" is how QUICK some are to AUTOMATICALLY condemn a MAN whenever a female says ANYthing about a man! The lack of "objectivity" is warped, unhealthy & wrrrrrrreaks of the need for....."therapy"! (no one in particular, just those who ALWAYS "do it"!) Capeesh!? sml!
Name: Harriet
Comment: Reds- Once a woman draws up the courage to speak publicly about abuse the first thing that is going to be questioned is the timing and it will be assumed that she has some sort of motive for speaking out. I do not understand that.
Name: Reds
Comment: Harriet: “I would like to comment on the way Rihanna has handled this. If she was the emasculating demonizing byatch that many think her to be then she could have done more damage to CB than she did." ... Cosign. Harriet, you made a lot of important points in that post.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: TGen: PLEASE!.... PREACH THAT SHYT!!!
Name: yunvme
Comment: Harriet thanks for the bible info. But what is this about talking snakes and trees of wisdom- are they anything like the trees in the Wizard of Oz?
Name: yunvme
Comment: Harriet by the same token, the bible also concurs that women were always weak, devious, dumb and always tempted by "snake". Starting with Eve.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: So....the fact that a man can stop a female from doing WTF she "tries" to do, makes it "ok" for her to ATTEMPT "it"! WTF are yall ssssmmmmmokin!?? NO ONE should put heir hands on NO ONE! Fukk outta here with this "selective & gender" bias! I bet yall wouldn't say all lis if C.B. was yall's son & Ri was always tryin to hit or scratch him up! Git the fukk outta hurr wit dat!
Name: Harriet
Comment: Taurusingr- I personally have not attacked Joe but have questioned the automatic attack on the girl. On this board today I believe that perhaps she has been attacked moreso than Joe. I remember when MJB used to talk about her mama getting her azz kicked and how she began to think of this as "part" of the relationship, so she too got her azz kicked. I have never seen MJB's mother get her azz kicked and I have never seek K-Ci abuse Mary, but I do believe that it happens and I believe that it happened with Mary. Objectivity? As it relates to how we support and defend RKelly even AFTER viewing the tape? So what if he %*$!ed on minors? They were FAST anyway. That kind of objectivity? Entertainers are more aware of what is libel and what is not moreso than we are. If what the young girl is alleging is not true then a lawsuit on his part should be forthcoming.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Where the doctor at!??
Name: yunvme
Comment: If a period isn't a curse, then why didnt God just make rose petals fall out the pvzzy? Why it got to be blood?
Name: Harriet
Comment: yunvme- No they are not. If a snake is cursed to crawl on its belly, how was it moving around before? Was it walking upright? The Bible is like a mind labyrinth. It must be studied and figured out. None of the real truths are evidenced. And you are right. Numerous times women are referenced as evil and the cause of the fall and all sorts of other things. But men wrote the bible. Hell, King James murdered his wives at will and the King James version of events is all that many read or have ever read. You will be hard pressed to find any where in the Bible where Adam is defined as weak and disobedient and easily swayed. You will only see him as being credited with fathering man. But throughout the Bible you will find jabs at Eve. Both acted, both disobeyed, both FELL and both should be blamed- not just EVE.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Harriet, your correct Adam sinned so that makes me weak in need of salvation, maybe not you from speaking in the pulpit.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Yun, do you believe Jesus shed his blood for your sins?
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Harriiet: ok...there IS a difference between people bashin one side & seeing/callin "B.S". B.S. when they see or know it IS B.S.! I think?, peeps are smelling what this lil chick is trying & "that's" why she's receiving the flack! Now...."this" usually NEVVA happens, & you knooooow it! Most of the time?, the "male" is the consistently attacked person!, & as TGen & I have stated WITHOUT PROOF! It's like this...a females gets the "benefit of the doubt", & there's no out cry for "justice"! or a pass on holding HER accountable for her actions, even AFTER WE KNOW SHE'S GUILTY! while a male?, sheeeeeit, "he's" CONVICTED BY A DAMN "RUMOR"! see the difference!??
Name: Harriet
Comment: yunvme- Perhaps you need to take that up with God. Obviously, this is all some sort of joke to you anyway so I will just back out of it. I thought you had real questions.
Name: yunvme
Comment: kevobx12- YES
Name: Reds
Comment: TGen, but the fact still remains that she was there, we weren’t. So we don’t have the right to tell her what not to say. We don’t know how much abuse she had to witness her mother endure at his hands. And we are talking about a mother daughter relationship, which can be a very sensitive. I really doubt that she made it up. But we can’t say she should keep it private. Maybe that’s the only method she has to release her pain.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Please ask the Lord to open up your spiritual eyes for truth.If you read the The Word like you have all the answers like a test booklet, you will definitely find out who is really being tested. Be humbled
Name: yunvme
Comment: Harriet, thats cool, but are you backing out because with all your studies you still cant provide a reasonable answer of why something that brings mood swings, blood, and pain is a blessing and not a curse?
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: Regarding the cheetah chick and Joe, well I think the immediate rush to judgment about both of them is wrong. However, I don't think she should've put him on blast like that. Once you've been accused of hurting women in the public eye, it's as good as a conviction. I believe that is why people are coming down on her. I can understand her doing it, though. If some famous dude had beat the bejeezies out of my mom and everyone thought he was all that, I'd want to out him as an azzhole too. So I understand. It just wasn't good to do it like this, in my opinion.
Name: Harriet
Comment: kevbox12- Again, I don't argue religion. And I am not preaching to anyone. But I do have a vagina and the people that I was talking to have one too. For those that don't, then I wasn't talking to you. The fact remains that there is no biblical evidence to support that menstruation is a curse. That is all that I was saying. Also, were you there when they crucified my Lord? Neither was I, therefore, I don't need for you to explain to me why His blood was shed or question my understanding of it.
Name: yunvme
Comment: Sorry but I dont put much stock into the bible. Please dont get that confused with my spirituality. Things written in that book would even make a scientologist laugh.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: *ducking to not get hit by the thunderbolt coming straight at yunvme*
Name: Harriet
Comment: yunvme- I was never trying to explain the "why" of menstruation to any grown azz bleeding woman up in here. I simply said that there was no biblical evidence to support that it was a curse. Someone said that they thought that that was Eve's curse in the garden. I told them it was not and encouraged them to check it for themselves. Menstruation is a blessing to me because without it, women would be backed up, stopped up, stanky, toxic, diseased, nasty and headed for death. To have my body rid of toxins that Mother Natural saw fit to dispense out of me is worth a few cramps and mood swings. At least that is the way I see it.
Name: Mas90
Comment: Taurus - " NO ONE should put heir hands on NO ONE! Fukk outta here with this "selective & gender" bias!" CO-sign!!!! Did ya read that ladies and fish(u know who u r)?
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Harriet, I share scriptures for truth anything else in speaking in tongues a bunch of what if's.
Name: TGen
Comment: Reds: "TGen, but the fact still remains that she was there, we weren’t." HOW DO YOU KNOW SHE WAS THERE REDS? You don't know ANYTHING about the situation. All you know is a girl accused a singer of hitting her mom. Did her mom say this? Was there a police report filed? ??? It is NOT your place to convict someone who has not been found guilty or (as in Chris Brown's case) has confessed to anything. You are WRONG for convicting him with no proof Reds, and you are WRONG for condoning that ignorant girl putting her mom's business in the streets like that.
Name: Mas90
Comment: Yunve... I didn't know you were so open minded about the Bible. Glad to see someone else is like me.
Name: yunvme
Comment: Harriet- umm...I'm a man. But I've been around many cranky, moody azz women during that "blessing". Anyway, now you got me thinking. If that is the way for women to be cleansed, whats up with us men? Are we truly rotten inside?
Name: Harriet
Comment: kevbox12- You don't get to tell me how to interpret the word of God and you certainly don't get to tell me to be humble. Do you have a%*$!(@?? Because if you don't I really don't see why you are all up in this. Are you able to biblically refute what I have said? Well then my eyes do not need to be opened. Or perhaps you should direct more of your focus on why it is such an abomination before God to drop your seed everywhere. It seems like that is more of a manly issue for you to dissect instead of what coochies do every month and how that came about.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Just curious for all the Church goers, when mass has ended is there ever a Q & A session about what was just taught.
Name: Reds
Comment: Queeniebunz: “I can understand her doing it, though. If some famous dude had beat the bejeezies out of my mom and everyone thought he was all that, I'd want to out him as an azzhole too.” … And that’s the crux of the matter. We don’t know how much this “upstanding” Joe beat the bejeezies out of this girl’s mom, she does. So we are not in a position to tell her how to handle it.
Name: Harriet
Comment: yunvme- That IS something for you to think about. But Men don't give birth therefore they don't have the same sort of cleansing needs as a woman. Some of you are stinking you are so rotten inside- but not all.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Harriet, thank you for telling me off it is much appreciated.
Name: Harriet
Comment: kevbox12- I tend not to trust those who "share scriptures" or bible thump. Their skill lies in memorization- not comprehension.
Name: Harriet
Comment: kebboz12- Any time.
Name: Reds
Comment: TGen: “HOW DO YOU KNOW SHE WAS THERE REDS? … She said it. “Kiely Williams… is speaking out about the domestic abuse she witnessed first hand in her family.” I have to go by her words until further statements from the mom or the abuser. … “Did her mom say this? Was there a police report filed? ???” … Comon TGen, you know that doesn’t mean anything in this society. I would azzume that she would not want to get the law involved. She may be financially and emotionally depended on the abuser. … “you are WRONG for condoning that ignorant girl putting her mom's business in the streets like that.” … Maybe that could end up saving her moms life. We just don’t know how serious this situation is to be second guessing a daughter’s actions.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Then I wish you well, speaking in the pulpit.You have the knowledge continue teaching the church your doctrine's as a woman is forbidded.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Harriet: Ummmm, do you "see the difference"?
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Harriet/yunvme/kev - It was a joke!!! I was joking, okay? Jeez. I've said I'm gonna beat Eve up for years and people give a lil chuckle and we move on. Y'all took it to some way out of there level. Y'all are passing Jupiter on your way out there to Pluto. Come back to Earth. It was a joke.
Name: Harriet
Comment: Reds- I totally agree.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Harriet: Uh, "do you"!? PLEASE say you do! sml!
Name: Harriet
Comment: queeniebunz- You may have intended it for a joke, but it brought up a serious discussion. We can still do that- right?
Name: Harriet
Comment: Taurusingr- You lost me. I did not understand your last couple of posts.
Name: yunvme
Comment: queeniebunz- watchu talkin about? I aint mad at cha.
Name: TGen
Comment: Reds, so I guess the girl is not capable of lying??? I can't believe you don't see the DAMAGE in any and every one just coming out in public calling people abusers, not even people who abused them, but OTHER people! Do you think her mom wants the world to know she's been abused? What if she ends up with Joe? Do you think your mom would condone her daughter destryoing her man's career (ie meal ticket?) Again, even IF Joe is an abuser, that is for her MOM to deal with. And if she's sooo concerned about her mom's safety, the way to address that is through the LAW--NOT through tabloids. I can't believe you can't see how ignorant--and dangerous (not just for the girl, but even for her mother, if Joe is in fact crazy)--this girl is. Shame on you Reds.
Name: Mas90
Comment: The only time Queenie isn't joking is when she is putting down gays.
Name: Harriet
Comment: TGen- The silence and fear surrounding abuse is far more damaging than speaking out about it could ever be. Joe has everything at his disposal to disprove this girl or defend himself against the alleged lies. If they are indeed lies, then that is what he should do. But regulating when and where a person can speak on abuse borders on violation of free speech.
Name: Harriet
Comment: Taurusingr- I think I done figured out what you were trying to ask me. If I am right, the answer is "no."
Name: Reds
Comment: TGen: “not even people who abused them, but OTHER people!” … Hold up TGen, this is NOT OTHER people, this is your MOTHER. … “Do you think her mom wants the world to know she's been abused?” … Of course she doesn’t, but we are talking about serious and dangerous actions on the part of the abuser. … “And if she's sooo concerned about her mom's safety, the way to address that is through the LAW--NOT through tabloids.” … The law in notorious for its leniency when dealing with celebrities and domestic abuse. Maybe the best way to address it is through the media.
Name: yunvme
Comment: Tgen- here is where you are wrong "even IF Joe is an abuser, that is for her MOM to deal with".....(me) unfortunetly the whole family-mom and child/ren have to deal with it, and often times, it goes from one generation to the next.
Name: TGen
Comment: Harriet: "But regulating when and where a person can speak on abuse borders on violation of free speech." First, who said ANYTHING about "regulating free speech?" lol But since you brought that up, accusing someone of a felony is not protected under free speech. And you're wrong. The onus is on her, the accuser (or relatve of the accuser I guess) to prove her claim. You CANNOT just throw something out like that--especially when you are not the direct victim. That is not only tacky, it can backfire. And if Joe is smart, if there is no evidence against him, he'd be wise to file a slander suit against this ignorant little girl. You CANNOT just go around accusing people of ish, you just can't. Black folks should know better than anyone how dangerous that it.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Harriet: So....you DON'T see the difference between "bashing" & "detecting B.S." & calling someone ON it!?? Wow!, well..... "Oooooookaaaaaaaay"!
Name: TGen
Comment: Yunvme, no I'm not wrong. I believe this girl is adult age and likely out of the house. This is not her biological father and to my knowledge, does not live with her. But technically, I was not speaking in emotional terms. I meant her mom should "deal with" it legally if that's her mom's--the alleged VICTIM'S--wish. Not her ignorant daughter's.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: TGen: Please "continue" to "preach" &....Uh, where yo chuch at!?? LOL!!
Name: Mas90
Comment: I bet JOE is sitting at home online reading this thinking... DAMN at least this is better than them thinking I'm gay.
Name: yunvme
Comment: T- I totally get what you are saying/feeling. But you must realize that most victims dont speak. They live in fear and often die as a result of that. Its her momma- so if anyone can or should speak out its her. How do we know that the cops weren't called and then they dismissed this cause it was JOE?
Name: TGen
Comment: Taurusingr, help me get through to these people! They are obviously blinded by emotion. They are not seeing things clearly, lol. Not at all, if they think it is okay to insert someone's name into the public hemisphere with a felony accusation. That is just...wow.
Name: Harriet
Comment: TGen- Why do you call her ignorant?
Name: Harriet
Comment: TGen- How can we be blinded by emotion? We don't know either one of them. There is no emotion. I have not called the young lady nor Joe anything. i simply wondered why she was attacked for bringing it up.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: TGen: Yuuup, yuuuup! And "if' the male accused DOES fire back with some legal action?, then he's...."not a man" & all! These peeps should get off the "drugs" & ON THE MEDS!!! LMBAO!!! (but "we" g'on handle "this" biz fa sho!!) SML!
Name: TGen
Comment: Harriet: "Why do you call her ignorant?" Because she used an unrelated public case as an opportunity to put her mom's private business on blast, for the whole world to see, with no conviction or confession (and maybe not even her mom's blessing) to support her allegations. It's ignorant 1) because it's morally wrong and tacky to put private business in the public and 2) because it could legally backfire if she's sued for slander. It was just IGNORANT and STOOOPID and TACKY all the way around.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >yunvme - If that happened, what makes you think the cops even knew who the f*** Joe is - especially if they're white? I spoke to a white chick the other day and she didn't know who Jill Scott is and if you ask many white people they don't even know who Frankie Beverly is even though he's a superstar in the black community - at least he is here in DC. He could be like, "Don't you know who I am? I'm Joe!" And all he'd get is a blank stare and, "please get on your knees with your hands behind your head"...
Name: yunvme
Comment: Tgen- actually you are the one that seems emotional. We all have mommas so thats why most of us here can understand where she may be coming from. Excuse me for asking, and if too personal just ignore it, but has you or someone close to you been accused of something that was a lie?
Name: Harriet
Comment: None of the reasons you gave justified you calling her ignorant. You may not agree with the way she handled things, but just means you disagree, it doesn't make her ignorant. You are very emotional discussing this (talking about us).
Name: Harriet
Comment: queeniebunz- Speaking of Jill Scott, what's really happening? What's up with these neo-soul Sisters? First Lauryn, and then Badu and now Jill. Nothing they write or sing about comes close to the way that they live.
Name: TGen
Comment: Yunvme, no, you have it backwards. How do you get "emotional" out of my posts? I don't get that, (unless you're talking about the caps I use for emphasis, lol). But I am thinking about it from a legal/propriety angle, not an "we all have mommas" angle like you are apparently. Again, even hurt people can use good judgement. It was very poor judgement for this girl to put her mom's private affairs on blast like she did, esp with really no call to do so. If she wanted to wish Rihanna well, just a "I've witnessed domestic violence and it is a difficult thing to come through, I hope Rihanna comes through it well" would suffice. She's an idiot. I stand by that, and I honestly don't know how anyone can argue with that. But oh well.
Name: TGen
Comment: Harreit, no I gave a plethora of reasons that justify why I called her "ignorant," ie an itemized list of why I thought her speaking out was ignorant. You don't think her speaking out was ignorant, and you are entitled to your opinion. But make no mistake about it, I argued my point, gave reasons and errything.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: TGen: See...."emotion" is what allowed us to let the most IGNORANT man get us in a war, then let him AND the government get away with the MIShandling of Katrina by NOT releasing the funds ALREADY IN PLACE & instead?, WE GAVE "MORE" MONEY, THAT WAS NEVER SPENT ON RESTORING N.O. OR HELPING THOSE PEOPLE! also "emotions" had "some" AA's were walikn roun hurr thinkin they were "females" more than they were Black in "this" country! (of ALL places!!) & were backin Sillary BEFORE they backed B.O. sayin STUpid shyt like...'Oh!, I want a woman to be President! Like..."all hell with" the BEST candidate or "their" own BLACKNESS! (again!! "in this country" of all places!) Like "that" woman was gonna have their Black as-s backs more than ANY Black person! Again?...WTFkkkkkkkkk are they sssssmmmmmmmokin!!??? I.M.O.?, "Emotions" are needed, respected & valid but have NO PLACE in the "decision making process"!
Name: yunvme
Comment: I agree with what she could/should have said, but she didnt. How do we know this isn't already out there?, but like someone said, no one really knows who he is and who knows his full name anyway? So for all we know, she may have a restraining order against him and everything. If thats the case, then she didnt do anything reckless. She just exposed him. But all of this is hearsay. I have no reason to believe she was lying. Could she have been more tactful. Sure.
Name: yunvme
Comment: Taurusingr - dont forget, emotion also got Barack in the white house.
Name: TGen
Comment: Yunvme: "I have no reason to believe she was lying." And if I was a judge, I'd say, "I have no reason to believe she was telling the truth." Now what? lol See, why it was so ignorant?
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: TGen: P.S....But it's also fascinating that/how females only seem to care,respect or give damn about FEMALE "emotions", & can NEVVA understand how a MAN might react to WTF "THEY" do...."emotionally"! Like men/males are just supposed to be INHUMAN with "that" shyt! Uhh, NOPE!
Name: yunvme
Comment: I will say this much. I dont think I've ever seen someone just throw someones name (especially a celebrity) out there like that. Just out of the blue. BUT and this is a big but, she knows what happened, we dont.
Name: Reds
Comment: Emotion or no emotion, you don’t mess with someone’s momma. We not talking about the neighbor, or some friend. We talking blood here. Joe, a non blood outsider beating on my mom. He may be too big for me to handle him physically, but I’m sure going to get him some other way. Like diss him in the media, eff up his career, even try the unreliable law. Momma may be too scared to do it, but I’m not.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: yunvme: uhh, "I" disagree! While there was a whole LOT of "emotions" involved?, what got B.O. in the W.H. had more to do with how "F'd up" Dubyah left it, how fed the fukk up peeps were/are with the "old system" & racism (for that matter!) and last but certainly NOT least?, how a whole lotta White NON-racist people had B.O.'s back initially, MORE THAN "We" did! Now hey!.. I'm a "chocolate brown brotha" who LOVES my chocolate peeps & NEVVA will be "kept in massa's house"! But, like the preacha says..."it's tight?, but it's "right"!!)
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: yunvme; Bottomline?, people were thinking "CLEARLY" & NOT JUST "emotionally" when they elected Barack Obama as P.O.T.U.S.!
Name: Harriet
Comment: TGen- Didn't CB say that he grew up seeing his mother get her azz kicked? Wasn't he arguing how the mother's abuse affects the children? Is CB ignorant for speaking out about the abuse his mother endured? When he talked about it with Tyra on her nationally syndicated television show was he ignorant and wrong for making allegations about a man that beat his mother when the man himself wasn't there?
Name: Harriet
Comment: Taurusingr- I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Name: yunvme
Comment: oh ok. just wanted to make sure. "emotions" are ok in some cases then, is what your saying? BTW your last post was full of emotional excuses/reasons why people voted for him.
Name: yunvme
Comment: Lets save Barack post for another day.
Name: Mas90
Comment: Can we go back and talk about Ree-hana-bara's forehead????
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: yunvme: Uhh, "reasons" are waaaaay different than "excuses"! And "I" wasn't & still am NOT "emotional"! But you're "right" about one thing & I agree...let's save the "subject change" for..... "another" day!
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: Harriet: "Ok" lady! sml! Wheeeeeeew! you had me thinkin somebody had... "snatched yo baaaaawwwwwwdy"! LOL!!!
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: I wonder why emotion is considered a bad thing, like being fearless is sooo cool rather than a disconnection from reality. When one feels the fear in order to do whatever appears to be the socially accepted action, then that what's cool. BTW, Adam used free will to bite the fruit that Eve offered from the tree of knowledge. It was not an apple.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Harriet - You asked about the Neo-Soul ladies. Well, my take on it is that they may not be Christian. Badu refers to "the Creator" and not "Christ" or even "God" and I am not sure if the others do that either. Hill has that song called "Zion" about her son but that doesn't mean she's Christian. And she did hook up with a Marley and they are from Jamaica where Rastas do what they do - a whole other type of religion from Christianity. In a nutshell to make a short story long, I just think they believe in something different, something that doesn't prohibit children out-of-wedlock.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: JAXXIE: See, "I" never said emotion was "bad"! It's only when one is ONLY going by & responding with "emotion", that "emotion" is..."bad"! When only using "emotion" to form or steer your opinion?, you are ALWAYS ..."detached from reality"!
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: JAXXIE: It's the "void of rationalization"!, that makes "only using" "emotion"....a bad thing! Kapeesh!??
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: LOL, Taurusingr, you are cute when your sensitive side is showing. I wasn't referring to your comments about emotions, I was generalizing and musing on my people observations. I don't think emotion gets separated from our funcions. That "void of rationalization" thingy is on target.
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: JAXXIE: Yep! we're >< lady! sml! Like with ANTthing else?, it's the "balance" that's always needed but missing when we only go by....dem emotions! "That's" why "otherwise sane" people?, will come off "crazy as cat shyt"! about something, b/c "that" something triggers some PERSONAL experience & keeps them from being "objective" about the situation at hand! Feel me? (& I think that you do!) sml!
Name: Taurusingr
Comment: JAXXIE: And as for your comment about MY 'sensitivity"?...Awww baaaaaaaybee! LOL!!
Name: 1VAsweetsexy
Comment: I didn't that about Golden Brooks.. MsBlake
Name: Untouchable
Comment: Chris know he should have got at least 3 months in jail. Oh well, money talks. Now, why was Rhianna looking like a alien trying to make some over the top fashion and hair statement. It's just a courtroom not a runway or film festival. The whole thing was ridiculous! Btw, I don't think Chris Brown will make that 5 year probation without beating someone up unless, he takes his problem seriously and changes how handles his anger.
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