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Name:
allaboutlydia
Comment: I don't doubt that gays love God. Homosexuality is a sin just as fornication is a sin. There are plenty of people who fornicate and call themselves christians. Plenty of people who commit adultery and call themselves christians. While everyone has sinned and has fallen short of the mark, the difference between carnal christians (fornicators, homosexuals, etc) are they are unrepentent and will defend their right to continue to engage in these sinful activities. Even knowing the Bible says they will burn for this if they die in their sins without having repented. Christians know they are sinners. Know they need God but give up their sins. They forsake the sin to embrace God and be a follower of Jesus. It's really quite simple. How do you say Jesus is your Lord and Savior but yet roll around in bed with someone who is not your spouse? How do you call him your master but yet serve the world? How do you engage in homosexual behavior when God has clearly stated it is perverse and those who do so will burn in the lake of fire.
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DawnDuhDuh
Comment: allaboutlydia after reading your missive, I doubt that ANYONE is a Christian and think NO ONE loves God. Sins will be committed, knowingly or unknowingly. The fact of the matter is if one believes and accepts they are saved...the bible says that too....anyone. So, regardless of the "worlds" or an "individuals" view it's not allaboutlydia, it's about God's love, grace, and mercy extended to EVERYONE. Adherence to an elaborate, self-exalting brand of religiosity isn't the way.
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Name:
dakoolestkat
Comment: *Awaiting Blackeye's replies to this one*
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JAXXIE
Comment: Because of Jesus Christ, we are under Grace, not under law. I honestly don't know who will or who won't burn in he11 which is not my judgment to make. Many of us walk our spiritual walk knowing that every breath is a miracle and that, moment to moment, we have opportunities to perform for the greater glory of GOD in the name of Jesus. To me, a homosexual who spends time selflessly in pursuit of community betterment trumps a heterosexual who spends time selfishly gathering material gain at the expense of others.
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McNasty
Comment: DawnDuhDuh Allaboutlydia is correct in what the bible says. You're the one that cane with 'no one is a christian and no one loves God'. That is certainly not what her post says. We are imperfect humans and human nature dictates that we all make mistakes - to God its we all fall short of grace. There are things we all have to work on in our lives but when we make a conscious choice to lay without the benefit of marriage or copulate with the same sex its as if we don't love God.
Homosexuality is as much as sin as adultery and fornication but its the only one that God calls an abomination.
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JAXXIE
Comment: Using studylight.org, I searched the term "abomination" and got 43 hits. They were all in the Old Testament. Apparently, Jesus did not call out people as abominations. Why do we tread where Jesus did not go? Jesus commanded that we love each other as we love ourselves. I suppose that there is nothing left over for many of us after using energy to love ourselves. Just so you know, I'm not going to fight about this. The "abomination" crew isn't going to re-think their positions and, sadly, neither will I. The only way that we will know the truth of our closely held religious convictions, is what happens when we all go on to glory. In the meantime, peace and blessings.
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DawnDuhDuh
Comment: McNasty, I know what the bible says. Lydia...I mis-read your first sentence, my bad. I read it as 'I doubt that gays love God'.
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Name:
MrUnapologetic69
Comment: Oh gosh... here we go with the bible studies again. I, personally, will side with DawnDuhDuh & Jaxxie any damn of the week because comments are truly in alignment with the God I know. I'm always amazed at how comfortable people are quick to condemn and cast down other individuals based on what they "think" they see and know about them (looking out corner of my eye at
AllAboutLydia). What person has the right to question anyone's faith? It's a good thing that GOD knows the hearts of every individual that walks this planet and GOD will decide our eternally fate - not man! How many of you bible readers and scripture quoters will have to hear God say "depart from me I never KNEW you?"
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Name:
naturalsista
Comment: How do you say Jesus is your Lord and Savior but yet steal from your employers everyday using their computers on company time to post on EURWEB when the commandment says thou shall not steal.
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PastorMarc
Comment: "This then is the message which we have heard of Him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth" I Jn 1:5-6. Willfully, knowingly, habitually, unrepentantly practicing a way of living that God says is sinful is possible for this very reason...the person 'has no fellowship' with Him. Does not have the abiding presence of His Spirit to convict/convince their heart about sin. So they keep living like they're living, doing what they're doing, and believing that they're following Christ. Christian...follower of the holy, set-apart-from-the-sinfulness-of-the-world life and teachings of Jesus the Christ.
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JAXXIE
Comment: The message presented in 1 John 1:5-10 is about GOD as Light. Inpretations are our own with regard to who is or is not a sinner: 5 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth; 7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.
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Name:
JAXXIE
Comment: Inpretations = Interpretations
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Name:
Cappaucino
Comment: That's good, but the bible speaks of the last day when people will say I cast out demons in your name and he will say depart from me, I knew you not. I am sure they love God, but the bible says that the greatest sins are those committed against your own body, the bottom line is if they don't repent and turn from their wicked ways they will perish. Fornication is an act, Homosexuality is a lifestyle, and thus you live it. Both are wrong!
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Name:
Cappaucino
Comment: God is straight forward he said exactly what he meant. I know some of you would like to embrace the idea of homosexuals being "full" Christians but make no compromises as God on the last day will not go against his word. Do not let the worlds view warp yours, no matter how much they compare it to civil rights and how many arguments they try to bring, this is a lifestyle that will surely set you on the path to hell.
Which really exists!
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blackgyrl30
Comment: Look folks bottom line is this Jesus is the Light of the world in Him there is no darkness, darkness can not survive in the Light. Whatever sins we may have whether adultery, homosexuality, beastiality etc. If there is not repentence we wont inherit the Kingdom. PERIOD!!!
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Name:
blackgyrl30
Comment: AMEN PASTOR MARC I JUST READ YOUR POST!!!!!! IN TOTAL AGREEMENT!!!
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Name:
kevobx12
Comment: Sin is sin, a child of God is aware of their sins( which were paid for).It's like the people of the churches claiming they are saved but continue to sin how can that be. The abomination is Satan in the house of God, where his seat is, where God put him. It's our own free will,not allowing us to serve 2 masters.
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Name:
Harriet
Comment: All of this rhetoric reminds me of the towns people bringing the woman to Jesus to judge for adultery. Jesus' response was "let the sinless person cast the first stone." That is what I think of when this "debate" comes up. If people would just do as Jesus did, instead of arguing over what he thought, and the level of a sin, this would not be an issue.
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BlackEye
Comment: Christian gays is in and of itself and oxymoron. One BECOMES a Christian, which means putting off sinful ways. God, through His Holy Bible completely and undeniable denounces homosexuality seeming like he denounces nothing else. Jesus professes to be in total agreement and at one with the Father. You can come to Jesus as a homosexual, repent of that send, ask God for forgiveness and be saved from the sin of homosexuality. You can not be both Christian and homosexual at the same time.
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Name:
ec615
Comment: All you hateful MOFO'S going to HELL in handbasket any DAMN way!
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Name:
khufu
Comment: Let the church say AMEN........Name: Harriet Comment: All of this rhetoric reminds me of the towns people bringing the woman to Jesus to judge for adultery. Jesus' response was "let the sinless person cast the first stone." That is what I think of when this "debate" comes up. If people would just do as Jesus did, instead of arguing over what he thought, and the level of a sin, this would not be an issue.
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Name:
MrUnapologetic69
Comment: Well said, Khufu: "let ye who is without sin cast the first stone."
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Name:
Bartholomew
Comment: ec615 you risk looking as cold and cruel as the other bible-toting posters on this blog. How soon we forget that less than a generation ago, white people considered black people subhuman and were not allowed to attend services with them. It seems the oppressed are sometimes the worse oppressors.
I am not looking to take on the attacks that I am sure will come. But those who hold on so tightly to their religious beliefs ignore some very important facts and misnomers about the bible. I wish we held onto the Beatitudes with the same passion we hold onto other religious teachings. I have had intensive religious training including 16 years of catholic school. I came from a very religious, strict household. I would rather love than judge.......I hold onto spirituality above religion.
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Name:
PRDC
Comment: The Bible is very deep and sometimes we can take what we want out of it to fit what we want it to fit at the time. God loves us all, its evident everyday that you wake up in the morning and start your day. Regardless of who and what you think you are, God knows all. I feel that homosexual is abnormal and its man's way of trying to change what God meant for us to fit their lifestyle. He gives each and every one of us 24 hrs in a day no more no less...that alone let's me know that he loves us all but not our ways and the same goes for people liking each other. It's a lifestyle I care not to know about because I can't understand it and its not meant for me too. They have to live with that. Its definitely a mind thing in humans because nothing else that God created have that style of life.......so its all about MAN...
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Name:
kevobx12
Comment: It's our free will,all I know is God is saving sinners, not those who were told they are saved or christians telling themselves they are saved.It's the LORD'S PURPOSE.
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Name:
Bartholomew
Comment: Is Homosexuality Natural?
For millennia, homosexuality has been touted as a sin, an abominable act against God, and inevitably, Nature. For sex has always been perceived as a tool for procreation, and any other reasons attached to the act of fornication has generally drawn the ire of the conservative right.
The reality is, homosexuality in animals is far from abnormal. In fact, modern biologists have observed that at least 1,500 animals exhibit some form of gay behavior, with 500 species well documented.
Other species known to exhibit homosexual tendencies include:
1. The American Bison: This stocky, well-built animal has long been known by native Red Indians to engage in mounting, and full anal penetration. Mounting of one female bison on another female is also common.
2. At least 6-10% of male sheep engage in homosexual activities (makes one wonder where all the meat we get in supermarkets really do come from).
3. Pairs of male flamingoes have also been witnessed raising eggs of female counterparts.
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Name:
blackgyrl30
Comment: Homosexuality is a sin PERIOD!! no need in tryin to rationalize with the Bible its there in writing!!! A friend of the world is an ENEMY to God!!! and with that im done with this topic!
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Name:
Bartholomew
Comment: blackgyrl30: I guess that was your 3 snaps and finger pops.
Nice!
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Name:
Mas90
Comment: The Bible was written by man. Man was very young when he wrote his thoughts. Anyone can come up with those same thoughts from what you experience in life. There are plenty of hetero who don't understand homos. Re: procreation.... not everyone is born to do this... mentally & physically. We all aren't alike. Get over your differences. Stop the hate just because you can recite something you read on paper. Doesn't mean it's correct. Nothing is perfectly done in life or written on paper!
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Name:
JAXXIE
Comment: Many gentle souls do, so, you are not alone. However, you are "outgunned" - Name: Bartholomew Comment: I would rather love than judge.......I hold onto spirituality above religion.
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