Sun, Nov 22, 2009
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BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: this is so sad! Well one thing I do agree with her on. Keep the Chile's away from Papa Joe!
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HersheysKiss
Comment: Why did he even hook up with Debbie, why her!!?? I hope the judge takes into account the kids' desires. Such a tragedy!
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browntwo
Comment: Heffa please!!! I wonder if she'd still want custody if MJ had left her something in the will??!!
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McNasty
Comment: This raggedy bytch is capitalizing off the negative press Joe Jackson got all last week. She has no real reason to think the man a threat besides that she doesn't even know him. I hope she has wise counsel cause if she slanders JJ her pockets ain't deep enough to keep him in pocket change when he sues her.
I wonder how the custody hearing is going to play out now that she's stepped up though. The kids she had by MiJac are old enough to express their own thoughts and opinions in a court of law and since they have no relationship with her I wonder where she thinks this gonna go.
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Conrad
Comment: I hope to G-d they don't go before a Jewish judge, after all, that "I'll rent my womb for profit" is Jewish and if the rumor mill is correct that the doctor she worked for is the sperm donor, and also Jewish, then those two older children are full Jews. If that low class, dumpy bytch who sold the kids to Michael on more than one occasion gets custody of these children, what is to stop her from shipping them off to schools in Europe, year-round, and living large off the money Michael left for his children? If Katherine wants permanent custody of Michael's children, she'd better make sure Joe stays as far away from her and the kids as possible, because these mo-fo legal b.a.s.t.a.r.d.s. are going to find any loophole they can to make sure the 40% of his estate that he left to his children money goes to yt people, who did not a d.a.m.n. thing to earn it. Debbie better be careful that one of Michael's fanatic fans doesn't take her triffling azz out, too.
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thechocolate10
Comment: How can she say she'll take Blanket in too. WTF you didnt want the other kids now you want all three.
If those kids were black looking this wouldnt even be up for consideration
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Stephanie
Comment: The sad part is, its so all about the $ with this trailer park trash azz beyoootch. MJ probably promised her Mars to get her out of his and the kid's life and when she found out she was excluded, she now wants to be a Mother to her kids??? GTFOH...I guess taking the kids would be worth getting nearly a billion in a trust fund. However, she is a peckerwood and therefore, the law will be shaped to work out for her. Mr. and Mrs. Jackson have been separated for years and I highly doubt Kate will let his azz come back. Debbie Rowe will now start making cash from interviews, books and a reality show! I hope and pray to God that these kids prove not to be hers.
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bannedntheusa
Comment: 'Nas...yep u got it. Debbie is able to say what she said thanks to all the help she got from black america about Joe. Funny that she never states what her opposition to Joe is...just she dont' want her excommunicated children near him. I wonder what the grandkids think of joe.
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Conrad
Comment: I also want to add that if this piece of shyt is granted custody of these children, they will, almost overnight, be deprived of all the love Michael showed them to some skank azz skizzer who has demonstrated she worships the almight dollar with not an ounce of compassion in her bones. Those poor children are going to be devastated and traumatized. Focking over kids like that is so wrong!
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sultry
Comment: This old piece of salt fat white pork used for boiling meat need to go back to the slums from whre she came from. All she see is dollar signs. They are not her kids and the bytch knows it. Neither she nor Michael are the biological parens alll she did was let them implant the twoo kids in her body. I hope that the lawyers for the Jackson clan tear her azz to shreds. She know damn well she do not want those kids and whoever is advising her need to quit giving her that wrong information. One day they say she is the biological parent and then the next day she is not . One thing we all know for sure is that she allowed her body to be used to harbor the babies in. All the lawyera are doing is getting that money she was paid from Michael to carry the kids for him. I am sure that she has been put a denat in that money. Rumors has it that she was paid 8.5 million to carry the kids. The thing about it is that Joe is the grandfather and how can it be said to keep his grandkids away form him. Just wha tdo she think he is going to do to the children? She better leave well enough along before she be very sorry for opening up this can of worms.
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Big10
Comment: Her lawyers is using Joe Jacksons past actions from over 35+ years ago as leverage to get Michaels fortune first and then the kids. She aint fooling nobody it's all about the money. Look at Joe today, those kids would probably whip Joes a$$ today.Joe Jackson abusing those kids should be the least of her worries. People like Nancy Grace, Gloria Allred, and Fox news will continue to drill it in peoples heads to keep those kids away from joe.
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olskool4life
Comment: I asked my husband, "Would you let me rent my womb for $8.5M?" He said, "Mmmmm, I gotta think about that...$8.5M, huh ??" -- LOL!!
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nightshift
Comment: I sincerely hope that IF they go to her, they get massive amounts of therapy, since their "on-paper-father" kept them sheltered/disguised.
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HersheysKiss
Comment: Sultry....You said "old piece of salt fat white pork used for boiling meat" BRAHAHAHAHAH. *crying* But seriously, I hope she has the funds to fight this fight. No doubt it's bound to be a very long fight
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Luke_Cage
Comment: @sultry. * GASP!!!* -lol
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sultry
Comment: HersheysKiss-That is what she look like a piece of salt fat pork. Well let me say it another way in the words of my mother. She look like some damn FAT BACK -Salty fat back as that. Just visualize in your head how fat back look like then look at her picture. the saltiest piece of fat back if I ever see it.
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Grace12_34
Comment: While I love Michael endlessly, I have to co-sign with Nightshift. I hope she gets the children. I love and adore the Jacksons too, but they are UNFIT. Enough already.
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bigchassie
Comment: SULTRY>CDHEYELL UP!!!!!
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touch26
Comment: All I have to say is, B-YOTCH GO AWAY!!! She see's a clear path to big dollars if she can get custody of these kids and this is where her sudden concern & desire to have them came from.
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sultry
Comment: @Grace12_34-Correct me if I am wrong but from what I read nightshift said IF they go with her, not she hope they go with her . I think that she would be bad for the kids because how in the hell canyou carry a life inside of you and watch it grown month to month until it is ready to be born and do not have any contact with it. so I see no reason tht she should have custody of those kids not at all not now not never. She is a loose candidate.
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Grace12_34
Comment: Sultry, I co-sign with what Nightshift said about THERAPY. Nobody knows that she never had any contact with the children. A judge will decide WHAT IS IN THE CHILDREN'S BEST INTEREST. Unless a woman is a serial killer, crack-head ho, the law is ALWAYS on the side of the natural mother.
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Grace12_34
Comment: Read "Jackson Family Values" by Margaret Maldonado. Great entertainers, but I wouldn't want my children raised by those people.
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thechocolate10
Comment: i cant believe anyone would think that it would appropriate for these childrent to go to Debbie Rowe.
One Michael wanted them to go to his mother and if you look at this woman Debbie Rowe a blind man can tell you she does not have a maternal bone in her sloppy white body!
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NYCsoul
Comment: Call Rowe what you want but this is who MJ chose to sire his kids. I don't think she is anymore fit than the Jacksons. Anybody who 'sells' their children does not seem to be a person who has a mothering instinct. The only reason why she wants those kids now is because she will be set financially for life. As for MJ, it is obvious that he had major issues as it concerned race. MJ always proclaimed he was black but his actions showed that he tried to erase much of it as possible, going so far as to have white children. It does not surprise me one iota that folks think that the yt mother should get the kids and the money, too. Black folks love giving everything to yt including children and money because we always believe that we are not 'competent' enough to do anything right. *SMH*
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NYCsoul
Comment: I'm going on my memory here but I read Margaret's book and while the Jacksons had issues, I question why she had two children with Jermaine despite of these 'issues'. She had no problem living rent free and jobless in the Jackson family compound. It's easy to point fingers about other people's dysfunction but what does it say about the person who continues co-habitate with these folks? The only reason she got out is because Jermaine was broke and she got tired of living in the family compound.
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thechocolate10
Comment: Tell it NYCsoul!!!
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Gurlfrand
Comment: >Grace - I read that book - it was an interesting read - makes you not want to leave your children with the Jacksons - as was LaToya's book in the early 90's even though she backtracked on most of what she wrote after she was reunited with the family after she finally dumped her ex-late husband, Jack Gordon - people, the judge will give these children to this woman - watch..........
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McNasty
Comment: ROTFLMBAO! I knew it - Bannedntheusa! Welcome back bro'!
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McNasty
Comment: She doesn't know him to have a problem such that it would have an adverse affect on MiJac's kids! If her opposition has anything to do with those kids aunts and uncles being dysfunctional I pray the judge calls her out and tosses her as.s out of his court room. She willingly had babies by one of his strangest kids and didn't see a damn thing wrong with that.
I'm thinking she may believe cause she's white - she's right! Its gonna take the kids to show he otherwise.
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TJthemilitant
Comment: Heffa Please! This blubbery wet seal rented out her womb to birth 2 babies, neither of which belong to her. She was a surrogate whore who got paid to walk the phuvck away. She did that but came back whe she squandered all the loot..She was paid again to walk the phuvck away and would have stayed away had she been mentioned in the will. This ain't got shy*t to do with Joe, who has been with the kids since their father died, this has to do with $$$$$ that the heifer thinks she is entitled to.
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Gurlfrand
Comment: What did black america ever say about Joe?
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...I don't understand Jermaine- He coulda been heir to all that Motown money...>NYC-That family compound stuff sounds a little bit "cult-ist"...How many of those muthafuccers are back at the family-compound?...Maybe I need to read that book...I really can't speak on that Rowe chick...Maybe she wanted a relationship with the kids but was kept away by the MJ machine...Hmmmmm, she probably spent all that money MJ gave her on food...and now her azz is hungry...Don't be suprised, her azz will GET the money to sue for the kids...MJ's debt will be wiped out and there's gonna be money coming out the azz...
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LazySusan
Comment: WTF??? I am so tired of hearing about how bad Joe Jackson is. Lesser men have walked out on their families when they had LESS children than he did. He worked two jobs, provided that little house they had in Gary, Indiana, PAID for instruments, believed in their talent enough to hustle gigs for them and GODDAYMNIT, YES, you have to make kids practice because they don't want to do it. Joe is old school and a product of his time. What would all of these boys be doing for a living now if not for his belief in what they can do? I loved Michael but his azz was spoiled. And now he's leaving 40% of his fuccing wealth to some White kids that don't have any of his blood in him. 40% to his mother but when she dies that's not going to the rest of his family??? And there are White executors? I mean I loved Michael but WTF was he thinking? WTF was up with his taste in women? WTF did he have against his brothers? Was all this hatred towards Joe all because he called him 'big nose' at one time? From the way Michael acted, I would've been surprised if Joe had even ever met this heifer. So all of her attitudes about him have to be from Michael's crying about some azz whippings from when he was a kid. I mean GAWDDAYUM this is tired. The one person that broke it down about the truth about Michael, was Quincy Jones in an interview he did with details magazine. I don't have the link but everyone should read it, because he says what he says about Michael out of love.
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MSM2g
Comment: This is bologne. This woman is not worried about Joe and I dont believe Joe would harm those children. This scum wasnt worried about those children. Those children are her and the evil people behind all of this way to get their hands on MJ estate/money. Dont believe for one moment MJ was broke!!
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Gurlfrand
Comment: >LazySusan - I hear ya - all last week, I was emotional on and off and tried to understand why Michael made some of the decisions that he did and just couldn't figure out why he did it - especially in the areas of procreation and his business/financial affairs of which only his mother, who is in the late part of her senior years, would benefit. I don't know what Joe did to him to make him lothe his father so much, but, it's too bad they never fully reconcile - I surely would like to read the article that Quincy talked on - Q once said that talking to Michael was like talking to a brick wall, especially about keeping company with children like that......
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MSM2g
Comment: Michael may have made bad decisions because he didnt know who to trust. So many people were out to get at his money/estate that he fired and hired staff/attorneys left and right. I read that he even had problems with several attorneys attempting to set him up to bankrupt him. These are evil people preying on someone who loved everyone and had too big a heart. Alot of the decisions made, he probably wasnt even 100% aware of them.
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indipindintthnkr
Comment: We all know Rowe was paid to birth those kids for MJ. After Thursdays comment about wanting the kids, Rowe and Lawyers had to pull back a bit to rethink their strategy. To me, thats where the Papa Joe scenario comes in. Because Thursday evening, it was revealed by Head Line News or CNN that Rowe is on tape saying that the kids don't call her mom because shes never been a mom to them. They also have Rowe on tape saying that those were MJ kids indicating that they were not hers in the sense that she do not have a bond with them and they don't know her like that. But, they also reported that she missed many scheduled visits with the kids and didnt reschedule. After 11 years and all you have is a vaguely (sp)lukewarm (if that) relationship with your biological kids, to me don't fit any description of mother
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MSM2g
Comment: I also believe the media tries to portray Michael and his fathers relationship worse than it actually was. just like they do with everything else. Biased 1 sided media, lets remember the molestation charges and how the media had him guilty before it was over!!
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NYCsoul
Comment: What is wrong with Marlon? Marlon has always lived far away from the Jackson clan and he does not sound unstable to me. Neither does Rebbie. But Latoya....I'm worried about her. Who the hell is gonna take care of Latoya?
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TooLiveQue
Comment: LazySusan-- Speak on it, speak on it! Co-sign 1000%
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NYCsoul
Comment: LazySusan> Tell it like it is. Like I said last week, I always felt that MJ was a master manipulator and played the victimization role to the hilt.
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NYCsoul
Comment: Another thing: Has anyone heard of the Jackson grandchildren in the news for any kind of bad behavior? I know I haven't. So how 'dysfunctional' could MJ's siblings be?
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dede0320
Comment: okay Joseph is ignant' true, but I don't think he did anything worse than any other father in that era and time would do. They believed in the belt and they believed in absolute respect. I think Joe is bitter that these Motown fools tookover raising his son when he should have raised him. He was the one that groomed them early for success. Berry Gordy and nem' were wrong for the way they pushed that man to the side. I really cannot blame Joe for Michael's eccentricities, I blame the people around him. I do feel that Joe should have stepped up and let MJ have a proper childhood, that was crazy, and I believed that Katherine should have had a spine at some time in all of this. However, Fatback/Salt pork should not have custody of those kids..no way, she has gone 11 years without raising them why now?
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lovebites
Comment: why would you get in trouble when they keep you locked up. the only one who was normal was Rebe. she got the fu**kk out of dodge and her kids are fine. I think it is kinda weird that Jermaine married Tito's ex wife and has children with her. I also think it is weird that Janet. Latoya, Rebe and MJ have had no contact with Papa Joe. We all know why don't play stupid. Debbie knows the real deal Katherine is not divorced from Joe and if she gets the kids then Joe gets the money. We all know how them damn Jehovah witnesses are.
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ladybyrd
Comment: Why would you want her to get the kids? If you think that she wants those kids, I have something to sell to you. This women took 8.5 Million and said that she want nothing to do with the kids. Then Michael & court said that she could see the kids and she rarely did. I think The Jackson are fine. The should have the right to raise the grandkids per Michael's will. There's nothing wrong with Joe Jackson. The media has blacks all wrapped up in the saga. You know your Mother beat your behind!
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Southernbelle
Comment: Can we say DNA test!!! Yeah, she might have a right to her kids but the bucks stop at the Jackson's unless she can prove that Michael fathered them (of which I doubt). Her taking those kids will send Joe laughing all the way to the bank and the kids will lose out big time.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: >lovebites-You got it backwards: Jermaine married Randall's ex-wife....Jackie left his wife for Paula Abdul who left him for Janet..Marlon got the he11 out of there when Randall tried to date his wife..Latoya had an affair with bubbles who was later sent to the zoo...Rebee raised Janet's and Debarge's child..
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NYCsoul
Comment: dede> Motown didn't 'raise' the Jackson kids. Matter of fact, Joe took those kids out of Motown and signed them to Epic. Joe felt that Motown and BG were not treating his children and talent with respect during re-signing negotiations so he took them to another record company where he got them a better deal. Call Joe what you want but he believed in his children's talent especially Michael's. Too bad Joe's abrasiveness never allowed sensitive Michael to see this.
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browntwo
Comment: Re: Lovebites. Enlighten us. Tell how they are?
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Southernbelle
Comment: Preach LazySusan!! That's WTF I keep saying. Hell no Joe wasn't a perfect father but damn the man gets credit for nothing. Michael Jackson has built a dynasty and every other mofo is waiting to get their piece. Joe spearheaded Mike's success and I'd rather see him reap the rewards than the mofos who kept supplying Mike with drugs, stealing his money and taking advantage of him.
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lovebites
Comment: ladybyrd yes she did beat me and that's the best thing that ever happened to me. but she did not rape me or call me names. I say anyone is better than Joe. Rebe. why won't she take the kids. she has the means. I'm sorry but i hope Diana Ross gets those kids.
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NYCsoul
Comment: Boot> Youse terrible. LOL @ "Latoya had an affair with bubbles who was later sent to the zoo". You know you are wrong for that. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Btw, a compound may sound 'cultish' if you think of religious zealots but in African culture, it is common. Sometimes, nuclear and extended families live on the land but not in the same home. Each family has their own home. The Jacksons was quite different in that everyone lived in the same house but they also probably had guest houses on the property.
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PRDC
Comment: I knew the white attorneys would tell her to fight for the children, money is involved and white people will kill their own for money. He paid for 8.5 million for being a surrogate mother and that's that. THis will open doors for a lot of other surrogate mothers if this is allow. Money, Money, MONEEEEEY. I hope they fight her all the way. Its said that he surrounded hisself with these people, but he did. They only want the money and it was Michael's will that he wanted his other to have his children and that's how it should remain. It will really be something if a judge allow her to take the children....We'll have to wait and see.....
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PRDC
Comment: Sothebelle, it is because of Joe that Michael was so unhappy with. He didn't think of his child he was only thinking money and ruined his life....
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lovebites
Comment: PRDC thank you. All joe ever wanted was a money bank. he never loved his kids nor his wife. She kept having babies and he resented her for doing that. He also has 3 kids outside of wedlock that Katherine and Joe are still paying for. Did anyone know that Marlon had a twin named Brandon that died at birth. No wonder he always seemed lost and quiet.
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Mas90
Comment: You dumb bit*h.... Papa Joe live sin Las vegas not LA. He could careless about them. Plus, you the one who sold out your own kids! Hypocrite!
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lovebites
Comment: B00TANEB00TUS i stand corrected. i miss you allot. how you doing?...... It is still just a hot mess.....Bubbles must of got excited and died.....
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lovebites
Comment: Mas90 i hope your not calling me a dumb B**Ch. i don't play that. i know you like to belittle people on this board but i don't have a problem with you so don't start with me OK?
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Tymiles
Comment: @ PRDC
Told everyone last week how this was gonna go down! I said last week that the kids were not his by blood and she knows it and there is almost nothing that can stop her from getting the two oldest and the loot.
Yes she was a "Surrogate" but most of the times ether the kids are related to someone by blood or by adoption. Since this doesn't apply in ether case to Michael Jackson as he is not the blood father and he did not legally adopt them, she will get the kids no if's and's or buts. The only issue is how long they will stay with the Jackson family while they transition to her and how long the DNA tests will take.
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Gurlfrand
Comment: >Boot - please cancel your subscription to Globe magazine........
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Tymiles
Comment: @ Mas90
Yo, yo, yo. Chill with the disrespect to the woman. No matter how you feel you don't have to call a woman out her name and disrespect her in front of all these people on here. That is not cool. (Should not do it in private ether)
It is really not that serious, not like we gonna get any of the money! And the fact the Rowe is Jewish, hey Mike picked her so this is what happens.
We can hate Poppa Joe all we want. In the end he pushed them to be the stars they became. I don't like some of the stuff he did and is doing but without him there would be no Michael Jackson!
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Conrad
Comment: "Jackie left his wife for Paula Abdul who left him for Janet." Say whaaaat???? BOOT, even in the face of serious adversity, you always manage to make me laugh. You are original and one of a kind. I, too, don't understand why some of us want that skank azz skizzer to have the children she never wanted to raise and saw only as dollar signs. If the authorites want to prove or disprove whether or not she is the biological mother, all they have to do is take a swab of her saliva and compare it with the childrens' saliva. Shyt, you can do DNA tests at home now. As for the yt lawyer trying to overturn Michael's will saying that Michael wanted him to be the administrator, I hope they laugh his greedy azz out of court because if he gets a hold of the estate, he is going to raid it and suck it dry. As for the yt ambulance-chasing lawyers advising frumpy, they will take this case on a contingency basis, and if that bytch should win, they are going to take all the money from her because they are going to change the deal in mid-stream, charging her exorbitant amounts of money for 'ghost' services which never happened. (She certainly doesn't appear to be the sharpest knife in the drawer!) Does anyone remember the Menendez brothers who killed their parents in LA just before someone (I wonder who?) offed Nicole Brown and that boy, Ron? They came to trial with millions of dollars, but by the time that frizzy-haired bytch of a lawyer got them off temporarily on a mistrial, when the new trial began, she asked the court to appoint a public defender because she had taken all those millions in legal fees and her client was broke? Fortunately, the court said no, when they had money you defended them, now they have no money and you want to jump ship? So, she was forced to defend her client (because originally the boys had two trials with two lawyers). With no money as an incentive, she didn't do such a good job the second time around because the Menendez brothers are in jail for life, and I think with no chance of ever being parolled.
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thechocolate10
Comment: ...im still waiting for the answer to how Jehovah Witnesses are?
Thats a pretty ignorant statement and then you are upset when Mas90 call you a dumb B.
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Shazza
Comment: I don't want to speak for Mas90 but I BELIEVE he was talking 'to' Debbie Rowe.
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lovebites
Comment: thechocolate10
well I was a Jahovah witness for 2 years and they wanted all my money as well as for me to go to the kingdom hall 3 times a week. I own a business and work 80 hours a week they were lucky i went to bible study. they always wanted free food at my business and wanted to have meetings there for free. Not all JW are like this but the ones in Los Angeles seem to be like that.
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Mas90
Comment: Shazza.. thank you. you understand my statement. Lovebites just has a chip on her shoulder. Waiting for it to get knocked off. TYmiles... I wasn't talking about Lovebites so ask before just assume sh*t. Also it is a free country. I can say whatever da hell I want. If you don't like it, ignore it.
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allaboutlydia
Comment: Debbie should NOT get the kids. Sickening to read that "she loves them" when she jumped shipped after they were born. This is clearly about the money. Since Michael is not the biological father and did not legally adopt her I wonder if one of the Jackson clan can challenge the will based on the fact that the kids are not his. I bet if the kids were out of the will Debbie would disappear.
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lovebites
Comment: Mas90 why you trying my nerves? i have never said anything bad about you. we have always been cool. i have no chip. i have a bunch of chips here there and everywhere. i am a hard working woman just trying to have fun to ease my stress away. But you do have a bad habit of calling people B***hes. Don't front.
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Mas90
Comment: Lovebites... I don't get it how you figured " you the one who sold out your own kids! Hypocrite!" was about you. SMH
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lovebites
Comment: Mas90 i am sorry that i got it mixed up but all i saw was
You dumb bit*h.... Papa Joe live sin Las vegas not LA. He could careless about them. So i assumed you were talking to me. my bad.
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Mas90
Comment: Loves.. there you go. I just proved that you had a chip on your shoulder.... "But you do have a bad habit of calling people B***hes." LOve place your ear on your monitor so you can hear me clearly.... I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT YOU!!!! IT WAS DEBBIE ROWE!!! ARE YOU DEBBIE ROWE? NO. OKAY. DID YOU SELL OUT YOUR CHILDREN TO MICHAEL JACKSON? NO. OKAY. I WASN'T TALKING TO YOU. STOP THINKING THAT THE B*TCH COMMENT WAS ABOUT YOU. YOU ARE TOO SENSITIVE. geez!
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lovebites
Comment: Mas90 yes i am but i'm working on it. like i said in the last post my bad and i am sorry i got it mixed up..
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ladybyrd
Comment: PRDC> It wasn't the white attorney's it was the media. The media is creating their own storylines.
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ladybyrd
Comment: Debbie wants the kids because they are listed in Michael will as receiving 40%. May God have mercy on her soul.
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BlkATLTop
Comment: Wow- MJ obviously went through such great lengths to avoid having black kids- either through the normal way or through adoption. With exception for his immediate family members, it's obvious he wanted nothing to do with black women. So black women, how does this make you feel? Who do you scorn the most : MJ or Wesley Snipes? At least Wesley told you how he feels about you, whereas MJ implied his.
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ladybyrd
Comment: GREED!! Michael can't even get buried in peace. There are those who are ploting against his Last Will/Wishes. At the World Awards, Michael Jackson "thanked" his father. If he can forgive his father why can't all the people sitting on the sideline.
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lovebites
Comment: BlkATLTop In my opinion those kids are not all white. You can tell they are mixed with something. I cannot hate on a man that was abused by his father. I think he did not want himself nor his kids to resemble Joe. That's my opinion. I think also that we as black people should love and respect each other. something we forgot how to so long ago. I love all my brothers and sisters.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Relax love...lemme lick the back of your ears and message those shoulders...Mas didn't call you a b1tch...He called that Rowe chick a b1tch...So the job got you working day and nite?...(Oooh lawd), got you working, working day and nite...You so tired, tired, tired, (Ooooh lawd)...Don't work sooo hard...Just live it off the wall...live it off the wall...
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Conrad
Comment: "BlkATLTop" quite frankly it used to bug the shyt out of me and when I was much younger sometimes it was very painful. Not because Michael or any other Black man wanted to be with women of a different race, but because it appeared they hated us so much, thus I saw it as a slap in the face to Black women. For the past several years, non-Black men have been hollering at us out loud AND marrying us, too. I wonder how this makes the Black man feel. Personally, I never have and never will believe that women of other races are prettier, smarter or better than me. As far as Wesley is concerned, he stated frankly that he does not like Black or yt women. He likes Mai-ling. I only wished he'd found this out before he hit Halle so hard that she lost partial hearing in one of her ears! I just hope he's not beating Mai-ling on a regular. Wesley is an angry, violent, woman-beating person.
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lovebites
Comment: boot that's what you said lat week and i am still waiting for you.......you know it's human nature why why do you do me that way. how you doing boot? lol. i'm a hot mess.
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lovebites
Comment: this just in
Judge backs Michael Jackson lawyer and friend. Mom won't control estate.
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Southernbelle
Comment: Tymiles, if the kids aren't Michael's then how do they "get the loot". It seems to me that they would not be entitled to anything because I know the Jackson's could argue that Michael made the offer with the understanding that those were HIS kids. If a DNA test shows otherwise then Debbie and her kids need to ride off into the sunset back to her horse farm.
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Reds
Comment: Don’t f_ _ ing touch me! … Did y’all see Debbie Rowe cuzing out the paparazzi/photographers? She was about to kick some photographer’s butt. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2009/07/06/sv o.rowe.ambushed.cnn
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whynotme
Comment: --->lovebites you're right those kids are mixed with something....white & more white LOL!!
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Southernbelle
Comment: @ PRDC, I agree that Joe can be a jerk and not an ideal father figure. But the man has never been convicted or accused of any crimes against humanity let alone his own children (well, there was that Latoya thing but she's nuttier than a fuirt cake). Did the kids get their azz whipped, yes. Is thta criminal? Well, I guess it depends on who you ask. Joe was what's now called a "stage" parent. He was obsessed with his claim to fame through his kids. Yeah, that was wrong but mofo's do this every single day. Hell, TLC has a show on now about toddlers in beauty pageants. These people have two years olds dressed like women! funny I don't hear anyone complaining.
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thechocolate10
Comment: lovebites> Were you baptized or just studying??
I have been around JW all my life and them wanting money has never been my experience. They do not pass the collection plate around. Small box off to the side. Its generally anonymous unless you give by check. They have meetings at the Kingdom Hall so needing an outside space isnt generally necessary.
Meetings are now 2 times a week not three. And of course field service. My parents are Witnesses seems like forever and I now study. I work alot of hours too and also seem to miss my Thursday night meeting but no one is up in arms about it. No one is perfect but as far as religions go they are pretty decent people.
Maybe there's something in the water in LA lol - ok Im from NYC so you see my skeptism :)
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lovebites
Comment: thechocolate10 both. there are some people who are JW who i still have contact with but they were all visiting JW from North Carolina or New York. here we are required to go to meetings 2 times as well plus feild service. same as yours but i was told my donations were not enough and also we don't have allot of Kingdom halls in Los angeles so we either shared a common church with other religions or were forced to have bible study meetings somewhere else. No one is perfect this i know but to kick out someone who could not make it to meetings because of work and donations is not cool.
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Gurlfrand
Comment: The news just announced that a judge just removed Katherine Jackson from control of Michael's estate so that means only Michael's lawyers control his financial empire (they can do whatever they want with Michael's money and property) basically, without any permission from any member of the Jackson Family............
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thechocolate10
Comment: lovebites> sorry for your experience. Thats a shame about the lack of Kingdom Halls in LA. I still dont see how they could say your donation isnt enough when it is anonymous but since I've never been there I dont know.
If you ever visit NYC - go to a meeting at the Pratt Congregation in Brooklyn. You will definately be welcomed :)
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NYCsoul
Comment: Again, if Michael felt damaged by what Joe did to him, he should have gotten therapy. MJ, IMO, continually milked that abuse angle through the media all his life. It's interesting how folks here have condemned some celebrities for not taking accountability and responsiblity for their actions but in MJ's case, everything was his father's fault. MJ was a grown man and he had the opportunity to pull himself together.
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thechocolate10
Comment: i hope those lawyers who have all that control dont sell that sony collection.
i think Michael didnt make his mom an executor because his dad probably still has some influence on her.
NYCsoul>you are correct!!
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lovebites
Comment: NYCsoul i agree 100 percent.
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NYCsoul
Comment: thechocolate10> I don't trust the lawyers. I find it odd that Michael fired Branca and then rehired him days before his death. I have a feeling that MJ was going to change the contents of his will but died before he had a chance to. That maybe farfetched and maybe he re-hired Branca to do his business dealings but I wonder why he fired him in the first place since he was with MJ for such a long time.
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Gurlfrand
Comment: Too many "Why" questions for Michael - I think it's a travesty that no one in the Jackson family can speak a word on what can now be done with his estate - everything that he built from day one is now in the hands of lawyers that he hired, fired, and then re-hired recently - I just hope they do right by Michael.
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Gurlfrand
Comment: The Jackson family just announced everyone who will participate in tomorrow's memorial -- and here's the list:
Ron Boyd (family friend), Kobe Bryant, Mariah Carey, Andrae Crouch Choir, Berry Gordy, Jennifer Hudson, Shaheen Jafargholi (finalist on Britain's Got Talent), Magic Johnson, Martin Luther King III, Bernice A. King, John Mayer, Lionel Richie, Smokey Robinson, Rev. Al Sharpton, Brooke Shields, Pastor Lucious Smith (family friend), Usher and Stevie Wonder
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Taurusingr
Comment: Maaaaaayn Fukk Debbie AND......JOE! "This trash" g'on show up "now" after GIVING the kids away like she "GIVES A DAMN"? Fukk outta hurr wit dat shyt! The ONLY thang this chick "gives a damn about" is........the "check" I bet that house M.J. Bought her as-s is all I'd up now! Batch too dumb to wash a DISH! Now she wanna get paid? Sheeeeeeit! Byatch "need" a damn.....MAID!
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Dovelyone
Comment: What is Kobe gonna do at the memorial? Shoot some hoops? Wow.... It would be funny if it could have been a down home (Black) funeral complete with funeral home fans, singing, falling over the casket, long, inappropriate remarks, all ending with a good old-fashioned family fight! LOL! BTW, Joe clearly had issues. And those issues spread out over 10 children is going to affect each child differently. In Michael's case, it's clear he became the breadwinner early in his life/career. That's a lot of pressure. And going to therapy, back in that day, plus having to hustle to feed 12 people (his parents and 12 siblings), how much time was there to do therapy?
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Dovelyone
Comment: ^^^his parents and 9 siblings^^^
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ladybyrd
Comment: Southernbelle> LOL... Hahahaha... You got that right! I bet she wouldn't want those kids, if a judge rule that they can not receive Jackson's money.
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ladybyrd
Comment: BlkATLTop> Can't the Michael Jackson have his funeral without all this bs.
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NYCsoul
Comment: Dovelyone> The point is that Michael should have looked into some type of therapy as an ADULT. I'm not speaking of him as a burgeoning child star. With the advent of Oprah Winfrey, speaking openly about abuses of all kinds, MJ should have taken the opportunity to relieve himself of his mental anguish. How long can one continue to blame a parent for something that the person themselves CAN control? MJ gave his father too much control and power over him and he dwelled in being a victim instead of a survivor. That's the sad part of it. That he denied himself the opportunity to heal for his sake. You can't keep blaming Joe for MJ the adult not seeking help.
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Dovelyone
Comment: NYCsoul>>>you are right about Michael's opportunity (just as anyone) to seek help via therapy. How about maybe Michael has gone to therapy to get him to the point as we saw him until his untimely death? It takes therapy to say "being around my father made me regurgitate". Maybe before therapy, he couldn't articulate that? And when your father responds to that statement with "he regurgitated all the way to the bank", I mean wow...is there enough therapy to deal with that? But I understand the core of your point, NYCsoul.
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Gurlfrand
Comment: Not sure how much of this is true, but, i heard out here in L.A. that tomorrow, while they are having the memorial service at the staple center downtown for the fans, the family will actually be having his funeral at another location then go directly to the cemetary for burial.....
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1VAsweetsexy
Comment: This whole mess is a shame and pity..and ALL OF THIS IS BECAUSE HE WAS A BLACK MAN WITH ALOT OF MONEY..AND ADORED BY SOOOOO MANY AROUND THE WORLD..I know I will crying again because they won't leave him alone
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Gurlfrand
Comment: I know, it's sad - even in his death, they are spitting on him. Some of the stations and radio talk shows have been saying the most nasty, and horrific stuff about this man. It's sad that amerikkka, is still this way.
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VeeCee
Comment: LOL @ sultry..... my only remark about Debbie Rowe is this - if she IS allowed custody of the kids, then she needs to return the $8.5 million that Michael gave her in exchange for the kids. She sold them, so let her stank a-s-s buy them back.....
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