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Name: Janissi
Comment: This is tragic in so many different ways. Again, my condolences go out to his wife and children and the families of McNair and Kazemi. I wonder how many ballers are second guessing their jump offs tonight as they lie next to them. They say McNair's wife didn't know anything about this affair yet he was staying away for days at a time, and obviously he wasn't hiding anything as there are pictures of him and Sahel on vacays. How does a wife stay in a situation like that? I'm not judging her, but I guess since I'm not married, I don't understand how a man can cheat right in front of you and you turn the other way. I'm sure this isn't the first side piece he's had. Maybe some wives make arrangements with their husbands - you bring home the money and continue to provide my lavish lifestyle and you can have all the ponanny you want. I, by no means am saying that is the case with Mrs. McNair, but I'm just wondering. Men and women, if you wanna play, DON'T GET MARRIED.
Name: Tokyo_Joe
Comment: Terrible story, the police said she shot him in the temple, walk around in front, shot 2 more times in chest, then once more in the other temple. She literally blew his brains out of his head.
Name: infofan1960
Comment: At my job there was a guy who had a heart attack in his girlfriend's bed. The girlfriend brought him to the hospital. He died. The wife got there and found out her husband had a heart attack in another woman's bed. How do you grieve over the person who betrayed you? You don't get to confront the person. I pray this woman's healing process will be smooth with God's help. I know it's an uphill battle.
Name: Gurlfrand
Comment: Sad - my condolences to Mrs. McNair and her children.
Name: huey
Comment: that heffa look as nutty as a box of fiddle faddle....
Name: leeneepoo
Comment: Heartless, selfish, and cold blooded....
Name: NYengineer74
Comment: Ok, I can't believe this "other" woman killed him over speculations of him creeping on her when her azz was the one creeping with him on his wife. WTF?!! No offense to the young girls on the board but that is one reason I do not date younger women. The mentality game is not all there and this is proof positive. His wife has to explain to their four boys the reason their father is dead -- over some bullshheeeet! My prayers are going out to his wife and their sons. Yes, he was wrong for cheating on his wife but I don't believe he deserved to die in that manner
Name: olskool4life
Comment: Echo all the previous posts. What more is there to say? A couple of days ago, many folks accurately predicted the outcome of the story before the facts were in. Whatever goes on in the dark will EVENTUALLY come to light. It may not happen the next day, the next month or 6 months from now. But, as sure as I am sitting here typing this comment, you WILL reap what you sow. *SMH* This tragic story should had never happened. There are positive and negative CHOICES you make in life. Be prepared for the CONSEQUENCES if you don't make the RIGHT choices (that goes for everybody in ANY or ALL situations.)
Name: Lorraine315
Comment: I hate to sound cold and heartless BUT better McNair(no i dont think he deserved to die) than the wife and kids because that 20 year old chick was a "Fatal Attraction" headcase like in the movie. One report said she followed a woman who she believed McNair was cheating on her with- so yeah the girl was a psycho stalker-McNair put his family at risk by messing with that fruit cake
Name: njmd
Comment: Off topic but it needs to be said... Somebody tell Diddy that we dont care about his train and that the post it notes are irritating
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Hmmmmm, I think I'd rather take the HOT-GRITS...Her life was messed up?...HER LIFE WAS MESSED UP?...Car-note?...You got muthafuccers out there without a dayum car...Room mate?...You got muthafuccers without a dayum room...They're sleeping on the streets...Yo, you can tell if a chick is crazy...I'm sure Mc saw some signs... but he chose to ignore 'em...If "this friend" knew the chick was 'bout to go off, howcum she ain't tell nobody?...Sh1t, I've lost women, cars, jobs, homes...but I, but I, but I didn't take a muthafuccer out...and I sure as he11 ain't taking myself out...>Jan- I'm sure a lot of "jump-offs" are getting their "pink-slips" today...
Name: pdub
Comment: ---->janissi...Ideally one would like to think that men and women who are creeping would think twice about their jump-offs given this news, but realistically I just don't think that is going to happen. Most probably have an don't believe that something like McNair's situation can happen to them because.
Name: pdub
Comment: My typing was totally off in that last post. I meant to say, "most probably don't believe that something like McNair's situation can happen to them." I guess reality started to set in for McNair's girlfriend. He "bought" her a car, but she is still paying the car note? Then she realized she was no longer the only jump-off. Someone learning all of this at once who is already in a fragile mental state is likely to do something crazy. What's sad is that Sahel's "crazy" was killing someone.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: Lorraine, I agree. She could have done like Amy Fisher or Carolyn Warmus when they wanted their married lovers all to themselves. She was one coldblooded skank to off Steve in that manner then wanted to die in his arms. Those women are no different from their men.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: I doubt if others will take note or believe their jump offs will handle themselves like this woman. If she was actually married to Steve just imagine what she'd do to the other woman. I wouldn't be surprised if all his jump offs show up at the funeral and start talking to the press for cash.
Name: allaboutlydia
Comment: MelodyCool - quite true. I have a relative whose husband brought women to the home when she was not there. One time she came home earlier and caught a woman exiting her house. Since that time she has told me women have showed up on her door step proclaiming to be her husband's mistress. He told her that he was taking their daughter to Disneyland but she later found out they did NOT g to Disnesy but instead he took their daughter to meet his latest grilfriend. She cried for days. Yet she still believes she can save her marriage. Her husband continues to urge her to move but she still hangs on. I believe McNair's wife knew exactly what was going on.
Name: nightshift
Comment: LEAVE THEM WHITE GIRLS ALONE IF YOU CAN'T GET'EM ON LOCK, DAMN!!!!
Name: allaboutlydia
Comment: nightshift this girl was not white. She was Middle Eastern.
Name: Thoth
Comment: Did his wife know? I think that the truth is both "yes" and "no." I believe Mechelle knew Steve wandered with all sorts of groupies--a lot. But I also believe her when she says she didn't know anything about this woman, and certainly not about all the promises this woman claims Steve made to her. I've also heard ('shop gossip) that Mechelle spent a good bit of her time in Mississippi at a family farm, while Steve was doing his restaurant thing in TN. That is how he explained away his time away, and how he was able to creep so openly.
Name: whynotme
Comment: of course he didn't deserve to die over cheating but clearly that crazy mistress of his thought he should die over it.....he put himself in that situation by dealing with the nutcase and he paid the ultimate price, death.......she had some nerve to kill him over seeing another woman and she was cheating with him on his wife, stupid trick!
Name: nightshift
Comment: SORRY, WHITE PEOPLE, ......LEAVE THEM TYPES ALONE...THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME CONCEPT OF LIVING AS WE DO...THEY HAVE THAT "REVENGE-FOR-TAKING-MY-INNOCENCE' ANGER...THEY EVEN KILL THE VICTIM OF RAPE B/C THEY FEEL SHAMED....smdh
Name: barnone
Comment: allaboutlydia> "this girl was middle eastern" 2 u and some1 else who wrote she's not wait. of course "WE" understand that people from Iran, Iraq, etc are not yt, but take it from some1 who lives n Israel, arabs as well as most israelis refer 2 themselves as yt. i recently had a convo w/ 1 about this bcuz she called herself yt and i told her she wasn't. of course she was ready 2 argue me down. i didn't even go there. self deception is the worst deception.
Name: Exmun
Comment: NYE, I cosign you on the younger girls bit. Ain't no way a man should die over this kind of B.S.
Name: barnone
Comment: ooops meant 2 write she's not white....at work and boss keeps coming n my office
Name: FiveMore
Comment: I knew the results would show that this mentally disturbed woman killed him and herself.Barnone, Girl, you can't argue with a fool.Everybody wants to be more than what they are when we all were created the same exact way(racist are so stupid)!Mankind is lost and so tired,smh!
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: Not only did she kill him. She shot him once in the head, then twice in the chest, then in the head again...shot herself in the head..then tried to position herself next to him so that she could fall dead in his lap. She ended up on the floor instead. I wouldn't care how many times a man cheats...no man deserves that. I feel for him..and his family. Crazy azz women who kill their mates as are loony as men who do the same.
Name: MsVanese
Comment: Janissi, I received this joke in my email, but somehow it seems to fit your question. (A husband and wife were having dinner at a very fine restaurant when this absolutely stunning young woman comes over to their table, gives the husband a big open mouthed kiss, then says she'll see him later and walks away. The wife glares at her husband and says, "Who the hell was that?" "Oh," replies the husband, "she's my mistress." "Well, that's the last straw," says the wife. "I've had enough, I want a divorce!" "I can understand that," replies her husband, "but remember, if we get a divorce it will mean no more shopping trips to Paris, no more wintering in Barbados, no more summers in Tuscany, no more Infiniti or Lexus in the garage and no more yacht club. But the decision is yours." Just then, a mutual friend enters the restaurant with a gorgeous babe on his arm. "Who's that woman with Jim?" asks the wife. "That's his mistress," says her husband. "Ours is prettier," she replies)
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: and how can u be fkng an NFL star and be broke? WTF kinda shyt is that. Like grandmama said "A wet puzzy and a dry purse don't match"
Name: goldengirl2
Comment: She was going to commit suicide and she took Steve out also to make sure he would'nt be with anyone else. As the saying goes if I can't have you no one else will either. An absolute psycho! WOW
Name: bigchassie
Comment: ALLABOUTLYDIA>WHAAAAT?? AWW GURL, YOU KIDDIN! DAYUM!! and she is still with him?hunny, i would have left but you best beleive i would have not left empty-handed. i'll be like Betty Wright in that song, "She's Got Papers on Me" YOU GONNA PAY ME, FOR MY TEARS AND FEARS AND ALL MY WASTED YEARS!!" *bacground singing, "she's got papers, onnn meee*
Name: bigchassie
Comment: infofan1960 Comment: At my job there was a guy GURLLL..that sounds like a plot from a Kimbrella Lawson Roby book. oooh! gurllll....
Name: bigchassie
Comment: INFOFAN>i tried to cut/paste what you said that happend with your coworker. but you get the jist. *smh thinking about situation* wow! thats deep!
Name: NYCsoul
Comment: This woman was not mentally disturbed. It was all about saving face and idea that this person is the one that they want for life. If they cannot have you in life, they will have you in death. People who come from the middle east or mainly, those from India, have this kind of mentality. Leave me give you an example: Recently, a man from India cut off his penis because his family did not agree with his choice of mate. They had already arranged a girl for him but he did not her. He wanted the other girl that he was in love with. I could go on about how folks in this culture would rather kill themselves for the ones they love than live in shame and dishonor. That's why before you get with someone of a different culture be full aware of what you will be getting yourself into. This football didn't know the deal and paid for it with his life. I truly feel for his wife and children and hope somewhere down the line, McNair's wife will forgive him.
Name: sweetpea
Comment: This is a tragic situation,SMH.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: BANNED>your Grandmother is a very wise woman! lol!
Name: JustTellingTheTruth
Comment: Shooting a man like that while he's asleep is just as bad as shooting him while he's still alive with his back turned. Too bad the cold-blooded hefer isn't still around to spend the rest of her natural life in prison for this.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Yo...I think ALLSTATE is offering "Jump-off" Insurance...The preminum is high as he11 but...You gotta look-out for your family..."cause nobody really knows what a "Jump-off" might do..."IS YOUR BALLER IN GOOD HANDS?"
Name: Gurlfrand
Comment: >bannedntheusa - NFL stars hook up with poor white girls and other girls of other races all the time that have no money at all - when OJ was still married to his first wife in the late 70's, and he met Nicole she was 18 and working as a waitress at a L.A. restaurant - don't matter to NFL stars if these girls got money or not........
Name: MsVanese
Comment: *choking on coffee* BOOT STOP IT!!! lol lol lol
Name: bigchassie
Comment: BOOT>I got a good laugh on that one! thanks! But JTTT>i tell you, that broad did him in execution style. and methodically too. dayum, that was cold-blooded death! *smh*
Name: GHank
Comment: The song of the day is "IT'S A THIN LINE..BETWEEN LOVE AND HATE".... by the Persuaders.
Name: SistaBigBone69
Comment: BOOT...u r 2 funny. I feel for his wife, but I can not believe she did not know he was not creeping. I do not care what you say a woman knows when her husband/boyfriend is creeping. No matter how much the man try to hide it. Unfortunately, his creeping got him killed. You would think this will be a lesson learned to the "creepers" but, unfortunately life goes on and the creepers will continue creeping. I believe out of 10 creepers 1 learned a lesson. I have found from some friends that husbands are into the mega bucks that they do not want to leave the lifestyle. So they accept the cheating husband, while they still have the mercedes and 200k house etc. I ask is it worth it. Lucky for McNair's wife Sashel went straight to the source and not take it out on his wife or the "other" woman. Men wake up....you married your wife for a reason. If you have to creep walk away from the marriage, but that is too much like being right.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >NYC - She WAS mentally disturbed. Being of another culture and having different mores doesn't mean you're not mentally off. Honor killings - killing a daughter or sister because she doesn't want to marry the man chosen for her is the act of a disturbed family. Killing someone is serious. Being "cold-blooded" is in and of itself a mental problem. Most people get upset if they run over an animal or whatever. Many people don't like to hunt. So having the mind to plan and carry out a premeditated murder takes a certain kind of person and no matter what that person's culture - that person is C-R-A-Z-Y. In Japan, if a mother wants to kill herself, it is customary for her to kill her children as well so they don't suffer shame or whatever. It's somewhat of a tradition but that is still a disturbed woman.
Name: SpecialK
Comment: Janissi: I co-sign. My condolences go out to his wife and children.
Name: dakoolestkat
Comment: Bannedintheusa..i busted out laughing here at work after reading that comment about your grandmother...too funny
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: I never knew what Mechele looked like and they had a link on bing or whatever so I looked at it. Here it is. She's a pretty woman. Shame he felt he had to mess with a Middle Eastern troll when he had that at home - a beautiful black woman dutifully bearing and raising his FOUR children. SMDH.... http://www.examiner.com/x-264-Celebrity-News-Examiner~ y2009m7d6-Steve-NcNairs-widow-devastated-by-news-of-de ath-and-affair-with-Sahel-Kazemi?cid=exrss-Celebrity-N ews-Examiner
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: NYC..gotta agree w/QB..this woman WAS disturbed. She carried out a scene from a movie. She was nuts and I wonder whether she exhibited any signs of loonytooness b4hand. Gurl>>..I was moreso talking about how you can broke "while" you are fkn an NFL star. It sorta explains my quote from grandma. If a man (in this case a wealthy one) is fkng you..u'd be a a damn fool to walk around w/no money in ur purse. Ain't no way. He'll I'm a man..if I get w/a woman w/cash (who's prolly using my for my dictation) ain't no way my bill won't be paid. So sad. BTW..I wonder if women are going to see this as a lesson for WOMEN. Most talk I hear is about why this should be a lesson to men.
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: QB..mechelle was hot back at alcorn..lol
Name: 6footah
Comment: The sun won't set on Friday before a picture of him in his casket ends up on the web.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Yeah ban...What about the woman who got iced by her husband for fuccing 'round on him?*(The woman in NYC)...Is this a lesson for "dive-ins?"...
Name: Juicebox
Comment: McNair's girlfriend bared soul to Decatur mom before shooting The Buckner family, of Decatur, met Kazemi at the restaurant on a visit two weeks ago. By Catherine Godbey The Decatur Daily DECATUR - Two weeks ago, a young waitress at Dave & Buster's restaurant in Nashville sought the advice of Vera Mosley Buckner, a Decatur resident in town for the day. "She sat in the booth opposite me and said, 'Have you ever been in love?' That's the first thing she said to me," Buckner said. "She said she was in love." The waitress, Sahel "Jenni" Kazemi, told Buckner details of her relationship, which would flood the nation 10 days later as reports of Steve McNair's death surfaced. "She told me she was dating Steve McNair. That was the first time I ever heard that name," Buckner said. "The second time I heard his name, he was dead." Kazemi and McNair were found dead Saturday in a downtown Nashville condominium. McNair, 35, was a retired professional football quarterback who led the Tennessee Titans to the Super Bowl in 2000. The Nashville Police Department has ruled the grisly scene a murder-suicide. Police Chief Ronal Serpas said police believe McNair was asleep when he was killed because there were no defensive wounds. After shooting McNair in the head, Kazemi apparently shot him twice in the chest before shooting him again in the head and then shooting herself. Police discovered McNair with four gunshot wounds and Kazemi with one to the head. The gun used in the shooting, which Kazemi purchased one day earlier, was found under her body. Buckner said Kazemi told her how she and McNair met at the restaurant and dated for eight months. Buckner said Kazemi shared all the details of the relationship the nation now knows, except the fact McNair was married. Since the deaths of McNair and Kazemi, the brief meeting with the 20-year-old waitress has haunted Buckner. Along with detailing how they met and trips they took, Kazemi shared a tale of a downward-sliding relationship. "She was troubled, even two weeks ago," Buckner said. "She said, 'Lately it seems like he doesn't want to spend time with me.' She asked for my advice."
Name: Juicebox
Comment: Buckner, a single mother of two who went through a divorce five years ago, saw in Kazemi a reflection of her younger self. "I almost lost myself in my marriage, and I heard her story of losing herself also," Buckner said. When reports of the deaths of McNair and, at the time, a 20-year-old unnamed woman broke, Buckner never questioned who McNair's acquaintance was - she already knew. Buckner said all she has remaining from that brief visit to Nashville are a barrage of guilt and regret, and a single photograph of Kazemi with Buckner's teenage daughters, Michandria and Daylon. "They thought she was beautiful and wanted a picture with her," Buckner said. "She's young and beautiful, and no one would think she would have trouble, but she did." Buckner, who defined the encounter with Kazemi as fate and not coincidence, wondered what she needed to say to reach Kazemi. She also questions why Kazemi approached her out of all the customers at Dave & Buster's that day. "We just decided that day to go up to Nashville. I had never even eaten at a Dave & Buster's before. I had never seen her before," Buckner said. "This is a lesson to never miss an opportunity to listen to someone when they need to talk because you never know who you are talking to." To combat her regret, Buckner, who promotes the empowerment of women, said she plans to restage her play "Woman, What Are You Worth?," which challenges women to not lose their identities in relationships. The play's first and only performance took place in September 2007 to a sellout crowd at the Princess Theatre Center for the Performing Arts in Decatur. Buckner hopes the play will reach women in situations similar to Kazemi's.
Name: Exmun
Comment: 'Her.... uhm... Banned, playa that comment from your grandmother was funny.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: allaboutlydia...>>He told her that he was taking their daughter to Disneyland but she later found out they did NOT g to Disnesy but instead he took their daughter to meet his latest grilfriend. She cried for days. Yet she still believes she can save her marriage. Her husband continues to urge her to move but she still hangs on. I believe McNair's wife knew exactly what was going on.<<... You know it's bad when they introduce the children to their jump-offs. I'm surprised the man in your story took his "daughter" because they don't hesitate training their boys to treat women the same at a very early age. Maybe he took his daughter so she could tell her mother to further fvck with her head. Why didn't "he" move? Did he want the house for his mistress? I wouldn't want to come up in another woman's home. I believe Steve's wife knew otherwise how do you explain going missing for days. I believe he made Mechelle's life a living hell...nevermind all the nursing/caring and childbearing/child rearing she provided. Let's hope his family made all the arrangements for the funeral to lessen the hurt and humiliation she has already endured.
Name: Exmun
Comment: Queenie, your comment about how pretty Mechelle was is a common one from women. But it's totally irrelevant. I don't think anyone, man or woman, cheats on their partners because of how the 'other' person looks. Plus, from the selfish man's point of view, it doesn't really matter how pretty wifey is if ya'll ain't having relations.
Name: whynotme
Comment: this buckner lady said her daughters said kazemi was beautiful & wanted to take a picture with her.....REALLY! i must be looking at the wrong pictures of her!
Name: bigchassie
Comment: SISTABIGBONE>you know, you hit a memory for me on that one. i remember back home, there was this neighbor of my family, whose daughter that i hung out with got married. now the father was a playa and his wife knew about it. i remember her saying at the wedding, "i don't care if calvin is messing around, just as long as he continues paying the bills and paying the house note, cause i'm gonna take care of me!" interesting. i remember that day very plainly. and ole mista calvin was a neighborhood playa. he dead now.
Name: Exmun
Comment: Also Queenie, Mechelle was the mother of two of Steve's sons, the younger two boys. She was taking care of two, not four. Probably same difference to you, but I just wanted to clear that up.
Name: whynotme
Comment: --->Exmum who said mcnair & his wife weren't having relations? and you're right that is common comment from women because we see it as if you're going to cheat at least get somebody that looks better than you're wife......it's wrong to cheat period but don't insult me by sneaking around with a troll in a dress.
Name: HersheysKiss
Comment: What makes her really crazy is that she KNEW this would leave 4 boys fatherless. HOW INCREDIBLY SELFISH AND INSANE!! I feel for the 4 boys most of all. They will forever have the burden of knowing how great there father was but also plagued by the circumstances surrounding his death and knowing EVERYONE knows it as well. I hope they can eventually heal, but the process will be long.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: Middle Easterners have honorary white status in the US. >>Individuals of middle-eastern descent are caught in a catch-22. Through a bizarre fiction, the state has adopted the uniform classification of all individuals of middle-eastern descent as white. On paper, therefore, they appear no different than the blue-eyed, blonde-haired individual of Scandinavian descent.<<
Name: Janissi
Comment: GHank>>>Hello! THE SWEETEST WOMAN IN THE WORLD COULD BE THE MEANEST WOMAN IN THE WORLD IF YOU MAKE HER THAT WAY YOU KEEP HURTING HER SHE'LL KEEP BEING QUIET SHE MIGHT BE HOLDING SOMETHING INSIDE THAT'LL REALLY, REALLY HURT YOU ONE DAY HER I AM IN THE HOSPITAL BANDAGED FROM FOOT TO HEAD IN A STATE OF SHOCK JUST THAT MUCH FROM BEING DEAD YOU COULDN'T BELIEVE THE GIRL WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, HA YOU DIDN'T THINK THE GIRL HAD THE NERVE BUT HERE YOU ARE I GUESS ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS IT'S A THIN LINE BETWEEN LOVE AND HATE
Name: Exmun
Comment: whynotme, in the same way who said that they "were" having relations? A lot of hay is made about Mechelle being the dutiful wife, raising two of his boys, taking care of home... now I'm not going to insult this dead man, his wife and his chirren in one internet post, but none of us really know what was happening in their lives or marriages. We don't know what Mechelle was doing. I'm not saying that she deserved to be cheated on. No one 'deserves' that. I'm just pointing out that we're ascribing all of these virtues to her because it's easy to do this since she was not the one 'caught' cheating. But the truth is that none of us know what she was like and what their marriage was like. I'm just adding in a little twist to the general direction that these faithful wife/cheating husbands tend to devolve into.
Name: whynotme
Comment: --->Exmun i'm not saying they were or weren't having relations because i don't know and really don't care.....he was married and one thing is for sure, he shouldn't have been having relations with someone else and since i don't know whether his wife was being unfaithful i can't speak on that but if she was she shouldn't be getting it from somewhere else either......whether she was giving it up to him or not, sleeping with somebody else or not he is still the one who ended up filled with holes from some crazy chick he just had to have.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: JANISSI>i know that's right! that song hits it on the head. you know it's sad, when a woman loves a man (or visa-versa) so much, they wrap their life around them forgetting about their self worth, only to be hurt so bad that they go off the deep end. it's hard as heyell to go through that and come out of it. but if you are strong enough to get through it, you would have learned something about life and yourself. that you are a SURVIVOR and nothing is important than your own self worth, and self respect.
Name: Janissi
Comment: I agree with you guys. Life will continue to go on and some people will never learn their lesson. Like pdub said>>>they'll have the "it won't happen to me" syndrome. Boot>>>Thank you for the laugh! MsVanese>>>The joke really sums it up, doesn't it. I hope it's worth it. bannedntheusa>>>Grandma's a wise woman. However, that would essentially make that jump off a prostitute, right? Someone on here said the other day (I can't remember who it was) that these men might be better served using a hooker instead of financing a jump off (I by NO MEANS agree with prostitution or married people creeping), but he might've been better "served." (shrugging shoulders)
Name: Exmun
Comment: whynotme, On this we agree: "he was married and one thing is for sure, he shouldn't have been having relations with someone else and since i don't know whether his wife was being unfaithful." just in case you didn't understand my position.
Name: Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: I know this is foul, but the song "Your Husband is Cheating on Us" by Denise LaSalle comes to mind...
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: NYCsoul you nailed it. NO she wasn't insane, but saw a way to teach Steve a lesson, keep him all to herself and "save face" after telling everyone he was going to marry her. Middle Easterners are actually very racist against Blacks so she must have been livid the Black woman wasn't shoved aside immediately considering all she's learned since arriving in America.
Name: Exmun
Comment: Janissi, I was the one who made that statement about a "working woman." Now here is a bit of man's truth and sure to be controversy 'round here. Whether a woman is a wife, girlfriend, jumpoff, mistress, kept woman, friend with benefits, prostitute, NO puzzy comes for "free." Men ALWAYS pay for the puzzy in one way or the other. How payment is made, and how much is paid is negotiable and dependent on the type of relationship...and in some regard...the benefit that said man ascribes to the puzzy. [in Chris Rock voice... "yeah, I said it"]
Name: Janissi
Comment: bigchassie>>>Cyber hand clap, girl! I hope I never, ever get to a point where I lose my d*mn mind over a man.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: Gurlfrand, Lionel Richie's white ex was a teen waitress too, and she took him to the cleaners bigtime. White skin make up for a host of shortcomings in their mind. Look at Kobe...dating a law student and replaced her with a video ho. Michael Strahan's ex worked at a dime store cosmetic counter...now she's in possession of 3/4 of his wealth.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: CLOSET NERD GIRL>LOL! OKAY THAT REALLY HITS IT! LOL1
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: B00T, how much are "your" premiums? They gon' be doing this skit on MadTV!!!
Name: whynotme
Comment: --->Exmun i do agree with you that men always pay for loving in one way or another!
Name: Janissi
Comment: Closet_Nerd_Girl>>>Oh, I remember that song. Ohhhhh! Exnum>>>Okay, I remember now. Hmmm, I never thought of it that way. Let me ponder that for a minute.
Name: Exmun
Comment: Janissi and whynotme, the 'price' may not always be in dollars.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: JANISSI>*gives her cyberhandclap5* yeah hunny. i know that's right. and the sad part about it is, all you wanted to do is to love him and be loved back, and you think you found the man of your dreams, but you also got to realize you got to love yourself too, because if it don't work, you will survive this. its okay to love, but don't loose focus of who you are as a man or woman. okay, so he/she ruined your life, they took your love and tossed it aside like yesterday's trash. you want to kill them. will that give you satisfaction? will that ease your pain? what good will it do if you decide to take your life too? will that mean you two will finally be together? NO! what do you do? GET THE FYUCK OUT!!
Name: Janissi
Comment: Exmun>>>That's heavy. Sadly, Steve paid a hefty one.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: but the sad part about this situation is her mind was so twisted so she didn't think that way.
Name: NYCsoul
Comment: QB> In the western culture, yes, it is seen as crazy/coldblooded, etc. but to them, it is customary. The Indian culture does not call it 'honor killings' where the family members do the killings. It is the person who chooses to kill themselves and take the object of their desire with them. I would not be surprised if she was drunk or high to give her the boost she needed to do the horrible deed. If you read alot of the Caribbean newspapers you will see that these type of acts are not surprising. Yes, it is disturbing but I don't know if this is product of a mentally disturbed mind since some of these folks feel that this practice is normal. For me, as horrible as the crime is, I wasn't shocked because it happens too often in the Indo-Caribbean community. I also think the young lady's age was a factor as well.
Name: Stephanie
Comment: Out of respect for his wife and children, the media should just leave well enough alone! I know it won't because nothing sells more than a famous person and a sex scandal but he has four sons that have to live with the circumstances of their father being a whore and it cost him his life. It was senseless. Again, sometimes we're allowed to choose our own problems. Only God knows WTF Steve McNair was thinking...
Name: bigchassie
Comment: NYCSOUL>yeah that's true. crazy but, yeah true.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: @Exmun...>>it doesn't really matter how pretty wifey is if ya'll ain't having relations.<< ...Can you imagine how scary and difficult it was for his wife (being a nurse) to have relations with a husband who could care less where he shook his dyck? With all that cheating under his belt I'm sure he would have been insulted if she insisted on using condoms. I hope his wife cuts all his male friends off, cause they knew what was going on and might try to hit on her next.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: STEPH>I agree sweetie, but sadly, Steve wasn't thinking with his head...the "other head" was.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: i didn't want to put it so bluntly. but you get the rift.
Name: Gurlfrand
Comment: >Melody - you are correct - middle easterners and other groups when they come to this country, they operate under the "caucasian" brand, even egyptians or indian groups that may be dark as the night, they check other on paperwork processing - never black or african american - I used to work in the human resources department and had privy to such information and those "other" darker race groups never checked black or african american - never.
Name: NYCsoul
Comment: MelodyCool> My uncle in the Caribbean is married to a Indo-Carribean and she said she would never have a black man's baby. Even though, she did help him raise his children from a previous marriage, I found her statement offensive. I find it interesting that she has no problem taking money from the 'black man's family' since we are the ones in the states, sending money and necessities to Guyana. She has never had to work. I have another member in the family where he didn't want to help his own family but he had no problem her own family. At one point, her 'cousin' came to live with them. Come to find out the so-called 'cousin' was her man and she ended up divorcing my mother's cousin. She took him to cleaners and re-located to Canada with her 'cousin'. I'm just citing these two examples to show that they really don't like blacks except what they could give them. Sometimes, it has nothing to do with love.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ....That's why I keep telling cats, If you gonna creep, it's best to stick with Black chicks...What's the most they gon do to a muthafuccer?...key the car..bash the windows...pour some grits or some other hot liquid on yo azz...burn your clothes...ect..Look, cars can be repaired, skin can be grafted, clothes can be replaced but you only get one life...
Name: Exmun
Comment: LOL@Boots... "skin can be grafted." You are out of control man.
Name: Exmun
Comment: Melody, by your statement, wasn't that 'cause' for Steve's wife to give him deuces and say see you playa? Doesn't it go both ways... that a woman who is aware of cheating and refuses to make changes as a result of it is somewhat complicit in the 'effects' of the cheating? This is exactly why I said what I said above about us not knowning what went on in their marriage and probably best for us to stay out, because by your logic she should have been done gone if nothing but to protect her life/health.
Name: NYCsoul
Comment: Boot> You are crazy! LOL @'skin can be grafted'.
Name: Gurlfrand
Comment: Year Boot - "Al Green" seems to have recovered well, so, I guess your grits theory is o.k................
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: NYCsoul, I'm not surprised by what you've just written. Quite often the men accept an inferior status to non-Black women. I'm quite sure you're familiar with that Indo woman from Guyana who killed her wealthy Black husband out in Dix Hills. She strangled him with a heavy-duty extension cord. They had only been married two months but she had met another man online. She'd snatch the keys to the husband's luxury car and stay gone for days. This man accepted her 7 yr old kid and look at the thanks he got. A Puerto Rican had her boys to kills a Black millionaire in NJ after he took her in trying to help her through drug addiction.
Name: Exmun
Comment: So Melody, when Black people murder non-Black people, does that say something about Black pathology vis-a-vis our hatred of other races? I don't get how you can make generalizations about entire groups with a couple examples of murder committed by certain non-Black persons, and yet not have a similar point to make with the situation is the other way around (Black offender doing the killing).
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: Exmun, many of you azzholes keep trying to throw shade on Mechelle cause Steve paid the ultimate price. If the man was having multiple affairs it was because of pure doggishness! Some country men are very crude. My friend's brother-in-law would actually drive up on the front lawn of his home with his jump off sitting in the front seat. The worst thing about men like you is you're actually trying to "normalize" your behavior. But in the final analysis you're fixing things so no woman can ever care about you for fear of "that" mentality.
Name: Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: I want to apply the old saying "You lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas", but I really can't because Steve didn't get up...
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: Exmun...typical drivel up there from a man who can't help but place others above their own. I must overlook you cause I know you cannot help yourself.
Name: Exmun
Comment: Melody, whenever you decide to get around to answering direct questions, let me know. Your projection and deflection is old news. I'm done (at least in terms of responding to you on this).
Name: cuteleggs
Comment: NYCsoul, co-sign'n on all! You are so right. When I was a teenager one of my teachers was murdered by a african guy who drank acid after he killed her. I'll neva forget that. From that point on, I do not date foreigners at all. Cultural differences and the extremes they go to are scary.
Name: Exmun
Comment: Melody, he must have hurt you real bad with that White girl.
Name: whynotme
Comment: even though steve mcnair was a cheater, cheater pumpkin eater i still feel sad that his life was ended this way and by such a loser.
Name: NYCsoul
Comment: MelodyCool> I read about that! Didn't she use the defense that she was defending herself in a physical fight of some sort? But she couldn't explain how the extension cord got around his neck. Did the case go to trial and was there a verdict in the case?....But yeah, some of Afro-Caribbean men take better care of their Indo-wives families than their own. A guyanese co-worker was telling me how his own uncle who married an Indo-Guyanese always berated black women(his first marriage was to a black woman) until he told him that he must have forgot that he was also degrading his own mother, sisters, daughter(s), etc. He said after he told his uncle that, his uncle never made any more derogatory remarks about black women.
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: Interesting forensics. Would like to see how they pieced together the details of what she did (shot in temple; walked around to front and shot in chest; positioned herself before shooting herself so that she'd end up in his lap, etc.). I'm sure McNair was beginning to get some weird vibes from her after deciding he didn't want to spend anymore significant time with her. But how do you avoid someone who decides to go Al Quieda on you? Guess you could always beat them to the punch and go Al Quieda on them first.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: @Exmun...>>Melody, he must have hurt you real bad with that White girl.<<< ... I know you must bust a nut at the very thought of this happening to me but it hasn't. I've been studying/gathering info on this topic for years so I know the deal and can read y'alls azzes a mile away. It's very easy to spot tricks like you so I don't fvck with you riding or walking. You're useless to Black women and now non-blacks are finding out for themselves too. You can kiss their azzes all you want cause as long as you make them feel superior to "you" and your race then it's all good. Quite frankly I don't see how y'all do it...no pride I guess.
Name: SistaBigBone69
Comment: BOOTS....R u sure u're not a comedian...lol. If Mechelle knew (which I think she did) makes you wonder what was her motive in staying with him. All I can think of is the benefits. If he stayed away like they say he did, could it be possible she was messing around too. Remember Shaq's wife, she knew Shaq was messing around and she had a piece on the side too. It can go both ways. As some say it is cheaper to keep her. You do u and I do me and we all will be happy. I knew an ex-pro football player who was married and had two kids. Well he was the biggest trick, his wife been with him way before he started playing pro. She messed around too. The difference between these two are she messed around with men with money and he settled for any women who looked good and nicely shaped with or w/out class or money. Now, both of them are in their 60s still married, still having affairs just waiting for the other to die I guess. Their indiscretions has been going on for the past 25 years. I guess it goes back to the old saying it's cheaper to keeper her and I do me and you do you.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: @NYCsoul, that guy's uncle probably stopped making derogatory comments to him, but not to others. I wonder what he thought about that killing in Dix Hills. Yeah, she was found guilty of all charges, and did try to say it was self-defense but never mentioned it initially. Then all that stuff came out about the internet lover etc etc her goose was cooked. These women see Black men as extremely trusting and gullible when it comes to any of them.
Name: Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: >Exmun "Plus, from the selfish man's point of view, it doesn't really matter how pretty wifey is if ya'll ain't having relations." Having an affair is selfish, PERIOD. It has nothing to do with whether or not wifey is "doing her job." There are plenty of men who are getting it proper and on the regular at home, and cheat anyway. Putting a man's selfish behavior off on the woman is such a copout. (And it works both ways- blaming a cheating woman's behavior on her husband is a copout too.) People need to be responsible for their own actions. I hate Steve had to go out like he did, and he did not deserve that, but it was a result of foolish, selfish choices HE made. It had nothing to do with his wife.
Name: MsVanese
Comment: Speaking from a woman's perspective, we know when something isn't right in a relationship, whether we admit it or not. We also stay in a bad relationship for various reasons. Why? Who knows? Maybe a study should be done on THAT issue. It is not always about BLACK MEN WHO DATE WHITE WOMEN. Not all black men are dogs, not all black men want a white woman, i am sorry, but i refuse to hate all brothers because of what another has done.
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: This is a sad story and I'm sure that McNair will be missed.
Name: Exmun
Comment: MsVanese, I cosign your comment "It is not always about BLACK MEN WHO DATE WHITE WOMEN." There are some on the board, screen name begins with Melody and ends with Cool who apparently believe that challenging ONE (alleged) Black woman's ignorant and half-baked comments means you don't love Black women.
Name: SistaBigBone69
Comment: after reading some of your comments. Men will cheat even though they have an attractive wife/girlfriend and still having relations with their "main" woman, but still have the desire to step out. I wonder...extra maritial affairs I guess boost the men egos. I never could understand and I guess I never will. It's a man right now creeping and will be every hour on the hour.
Name: Exmun
Comment: Closet_Nerd_Girl, please read the post that I was 'responding' to... that post was about how pretty the wife is and yada yada about how she was taking care of his home and children yada yada. My post was a response to a very common response about why so and so had to cheat when his wife was so pretty. We do agree on the fact that the amount of sex happening in a relationship is not always related to cheating. But lets not act like it's totally 'unrelated.'
Name: Exmun
Comment: SistaBigBone, you 'do' realize that women also have affairs right?
Name: SistaBigBone69
Comment: Yes I do and the same apply with them too.
Name: SistaBigBone69
Comment: BUT, I do think most women cheat for other reasons not just because.
Name: Exmun
Comment: Sista, what are the 'other' reasons that women cheat? And why do you believe that men cheat just 'because?'
Name: xavixavi
Comment: I know she dead, but plain and simple she was a JUMP OFF. She finally realized how little she meant to him, and that she was living in a total fantasy world and went crazy!!! Simple as that. How do I know?? She is "dating" a football player, but is worried about a $1000 apt. She has two car payments. She was always worrying about money. IF he was going to divorce his wife and marry her, MONEY wouldnt' be a big worry. When she finally faced the facts about what she WAS, and what he WAS it made her crazy!!! Married Men careful who you fall asleep in front of... It may be your last!
Name: MsVanese
Comment: lol @ exmum, but women actually use their brains to figure out how not to get caught. a woman will go out & cheat, come home clean the house (or do it before she leaves); make dinner, kiss the hubby & break him off in the same day. (lol, y'all know it's true). a man will come home all defensive & thangs making himself look guilty.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Two things destroy people, their pride & money.
Name: Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: Exmun- I was aware of the post you were responding to, and I responded to your response. But really my post stands on its own, and can be applied to the "but his wife is so pretty" comments as well. We do agree that the "no sex at home" excuse does not cut it when it comes to cheating. Yes, sometimes sex, or lack thereof, is a factor, but it is usually a symptom of a much deeper problem.
Name: Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: >Ms Vanesse- cosign your post.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Ms vaness, that what you think, till the guy begins to black mail you with the videotape lol.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Van, women ain't the only ones who do that sh1t...I go out cheat...come home, shower, clean up the place...I can't stand a messy woman or messy house..Make myself something to eat.. invite the girl friend over, kiss her and break her off a lil something in the same day...(ya'll KNOW it's true)...If SHE comes over all defensive and thangs...her azz gotta get the fucc out...
Name: bigchassie
Comment: NYCSOUL>ONE WORD.....DAYUMMMM! that was cold and bold at the same time!
Name: Reds
Comment: Well, at least these latest reports indicate that McNair was not that much of a chump. Apparently, he wasn’t blowing his money on her. He probably only cosigned for the Escalade, and didn’t put a lot, if any of the down payment. Her payments must have been very high since she was so stressed. It finally hit her that she wasn’t going to get anything from McNair except some D.
Name: MsVanese
Comment: lol @ kevobx12 (checking my safe) lol lol lol
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Emotional cheating is how it all begins, when speaking flattering words by giving that person your undivided attention creates that delusion.
Name: TJthemilitant
Comment: MsV..LMAO so true, oh so very true! BOOTS, youze a fool with the "Skin grafts"..LMAO!
Name: MsVanese
Comment: kev, not always. sometimes it is about, "damn he/she is fine, i wonder if he/she can **** good. gotta have me some of that" it is like looking a ice cream & having to taste it because it looks so good and then finding out it was nasty as hell.
Name: stellababy5
Comment: Wow this is so scary.Flippin' the script a little,reminds me of 2 stories that involved men doing the same or similar thing.One woman after having an affair,where she had moved out.She decided to reconcile with her husband.She told the man she was cheating with and he did not handle it well.He was able to convince security to let him in the building,she was waiting for moving people so her door was ajar.He came in knocked her down and straddled her with her arms close to her sides and proceeded to slice off both of her ears.She survived but at the cost of her looks and her marriage.Another woman who was getting married,apparently her ex did not want to except that it was over.On her wedding day and at her home while taking photos with her family and her 19 year old son,he came in with his key took out a gun from his brief case and shot her five times in front of her family while it was all being filmed.Her name was Gladys Ricart and she was Dominican and she was to marry a Black man.While she was being murdered,he was waiting for her at the church.Although both cases are different it shows that rejection or being scorned is a bytch.My prayers go out to Mrs.McNair and her family.But everyone should remember that it can INDEED happen to you when you cheat.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Ms vaness, that's your free will,called horniness I guess you are sampler, but I want the entire dish.I don't know too many women who are not emotional,woman love to be talked too.
Name: SistaBigBone69
Comment: MS V...I agree with you 100% EXMUM...all my life I've watched grandfather, uncles and male friends cheat. I did not understand then and still do not understand why. Now, one thing I can say some of the men I know cheated on their wife, I am sure because the attraction was not there. Some of them women went from a size 8, 10, 12 to a 20, 24 26. but hey for better or worse.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: stellababy5, what was really fvcked up about the Ricart woman is her ex broke things off with her and couldn't handle the fact that she found love once again. That goes to show you how selfish some people truly are.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: SistaBigBone69, ain't it something to reflect on male family members who've cheated for as long as we can remember? A part of me believe they are trying to teach female relatives what to look for and expect. It kills the love/respect as far as I'm concerned.
Name: MzTee
Comment: Ain't this about a beeyotch...this mess is straight out of a movie. As money hungry as Hollywood is, I wouldn't be surprised to see some type of movie on this in the next year or so. Regardless of McNair being a philanderer, he did NOT deserve to be brutally murdered. My condolences to both the McNair and Kazemi families. Unfortunately, both of the families are left behind to deal with the aftermath of the foolish and selfish decisions made by McNair and Kazemi. As much as this should be a lesson to folks out that skipping and dipping in holes in which they have no business, most folks are going to continue doing what they're doing. As someone else mentioned, most folks have the attitude of 'this won't or couldn't happen to me' NOT realizing this could happen to any one of us. Lawd knows I love sex, especially good sex, but I damn sure don't want to die because of it.
Name: SistaBigBone69
Comment: MELODY....I am not sure what they were trying to teach me, but I can say that it made me notice or shall I say analyze alot of the men I dated thoughout my years. Most of the time when I suspected my mate was cheating, he was. I did not go looking for it, but there were the signs.
Name: MzTee
Comment: MsVanesse...ITA with your 1st post 1000%. My sentiments exactly!
Name: huey
Comment: Kazemi's DUI arrest video: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/22825103/vp/31829769#318 29769
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: >Exmun- Back to what you said earlier about her being pretty. I totally agree that beauty doesn't really mean much in daily interaction or prevention of a man cheating. I guess it was just one of those cliched comments. But believe me. I fully understand how a pretty woman can be cheated on.
Name: MsVanese
Comment: lol, sampler? hmmm, nope. just a female with friends who, for one reason or another, decided to try some "strange" and a lot of times it was because he looked good & they were curious. maybe emotions came into later. JMO
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: Is it me, or does her nose look even bigger in the arrest video? Guess McNair was digging her body, cause ain't much happening with the face.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Sometimes, when a person gets thats good loving, they can lose it, abuse it, or choose it over & over again. In my case any man who has sex more than 3 times with the same woman, she is emotional into you, whether he notices or not.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: Queen,you know the saying for every pretty girl,there is some guy tired of screwing her.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: Sometimes, when a person gets thats good loving, they can lose it, abuse it, or choose it over & over again. In my case any man who has sex more than 3 times with the same woman, she is emotional into you, whether he notices or not. KEV>you said it!
Name: huey
Comment: and if u having sex with huey u gonna be feigning like crack head....
Name: kevobx12
Comment: If I said I meant it...Those are my truths.
Name: Dovelyone
Comment: Wow... sigh... funny you all are going back and forth about this jump-off's sanity. Murder is one thing. But to take a loaded gun, put it to your temple, and pull the trigger is an entirely different thing altogether. That is INSANE. That is UNNATURAL. That is ABNORMAL. And Banned's grandmama's quote is the classic quote of the day, week, month, and maybe the year! LMBO!
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: Some have mentioned her age as a factor, and I'd agree it definitely had to have been. The first time or two that you're really hurt, I mean really and truly hurt---be ye male or female---it's difficult to process. And it can lead to irrational thoughts and behaviour. After one of the those early hurts that I experienced---at about age 19---I found myself standing on a fourth floor balcony. And a thought went through my head of how simple and easy it would be to end things right there. Just a quick thought. A moment later, I took my azz back inside, told myself to not get ridiculous, and laughed it off. After that episode I hardened emotionally and have hardened even more since. This girl hadn't had a chance to hardened a bit. So she followed her emotions completely. All the way over that psychological cliff.
Name: TJthemilitant
Comment: DcDoug, ain't nuttin' happening with this monster's body either. Saw her website with numerous photos including one where she is about to lick her girlfriend's ta-ta's...She's built like an anorexic sponge bob..Square, flat and boxy..The only thing big on the heifer is that volcanic nose!
Name: bigchassie
Comment: DCDOUG>yeah, i feel ya, i been there too. i look back on that crap and say, dayum i was real young and stupid. but not too stupid to do it for real. at times your mental state of mind can be challenged.
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: Well, TJthemilitant, if she ain't got nothing going on with the body then I don't know why McNair went there. Cause a female with a slammin' body can just brush her shoulders off after a heartbreak, put on some tight jeans or tight whatever, pimp down the street or bounce it in the club, and have a slew of phone nyumbers to start over with. Which I know McNair knows that, and could have surmised that "If I kick this trick to the curb, she can get over me with her next gold dig attempts real quick."
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: "A wet puzzy and a dry purse don't match" Luv it!!!!
Name: bigchassie
Comment: DCDOUG>and you know what?? i forgot the guys name who i was breaking my heart over! i was in college. oh gawwd! lol! oh wait a minute, now i remember! lol! (dayum, i'm gettin old!-but still look good! lol!)
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: Hey chassie, missed ya, where you been hiding out?
Name: bigchassie
Comment: SOUTHERNBELLE>Lol! i like that too! lol! very wise woman! lol1
Name: bigchassie
Comment: *Grinning at Southern* i've been working! lol!
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: This poor soul here (McNair). The love of kitty kat has been known to be man's biggest downfall and this right here proves it.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: you know i took a look at that chick's picture and she looks lost. you know how the eyes has that lost look.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: SOUTHERNBELLE>yep. sad. the man ran into the wrong tang-tang.
Name: Reds
Comment: What y'all think of the arrest video. Remember to remove the spaces. http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/22825103/vp/31829769#318 29769
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: bigchassie, I can't remember the name of the first girl that broke my heart (at age 17). I can remember the primary details of the incident (she went back to her previous boyfriend without even telling me) but can't remember her name at the moment.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: dcdouglass01, that girl was hardened to the core...that's how she was able to pull the trigger in such a coldblooded manner. Don't forget she left home 4 years ago and moved to Nashville with another man. So she's been around the block more than a few times. I think men must overlook that smirk on her face and distant look in her eyes but it signifies plenty to me.
Name: SweetieDarlin
Comment: Didn't read all the posts just chiming in with my little 2 cents sorry if I'm saying what was already said. This is a shame and this is NOT Karma, screwing around is wrong but it is not a killable offense and but who knows what was really going on, could have been an open marriage, a threesome no one knew about with the chick on the side and the wife,pending divorce or any and all things in between. Very tragic for his children and wife, they lost a father and a friend. One thing I will say---IMO, this chick probably has had the 'crazy' issues before he may not have noticed or thought nothing of it, so many men and women hook up with the crazy folks and think it's 'cute' until it starts escalating and you are trying to get away. Everyone needs to BEWARE of who they hook up with but especially when you are married (or better yet when you are married you are already taken so step away from the sidepiece) the Commodores didn't make the song 'Slippery When it's Wet' for nothing. Play Misty for Me, Fatal Attraction et al are likely based on true events and ARE cautionary tales, not mere entertainment.
Name: Dovelyone
Comment: Since we're talking about first loves/heartbreaks, I was 20 years old and when it was good, it was sweet. And when it soured, I thought I would die. I wanted to stop feeling the pain. But I didn't want to kill him. That never crossed my mind. The only reason I would have tried to take my own life was to stop feeling the pain. So this woman had to be far spent for her to take his life and hers... and for her to do it when he was asleep (because she knew he would overpower her) was calculated/premeditated, I suspect.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: chassie, the eyes are the windows to the soul. She looks cold and sneaky to me.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: SweetieDarlin, her previous boyfriend spoke of a tumultuous relationship with her, but Steve may have liked wildcats. The only good thing for him is he didn't see it coming...just slept on away from here.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: This is why, if the relationship is over, it's over & don't have sex with them.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: MELODY>yeah. she does. but what really got me was her sister. when they had her phone call on CNN,telling police about her sisters death, the sister sounded so...nonchalant. without emotion. that let me know that something that was not right with this chick that killed Mcnair.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: chassie, once they start digging into her background and speaking to folks who knew her in Florida there's no telling what they will uncover. She just turned 20 in May...and left home 4 years ago when she was 15-16...that speaks volumes right there. I can smell sneaky, deceitful, cunning folks if they're in my presence and this girl reeks from her photos.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: DCDOUGLAS>see what i mean? back then, we thought our world was comming to an end! we wanted to end it all. the one that broke my heart went to the service without telling me and i found out that he was married. i was, what? i think i was 20 at the time in college. i had a little bottle of sleeping pills and i was staring in my bedroom looking at those pills. my cowardness got the better of me. sometimes, being a coward ain't bad. it was like courage undercover. i look back at that and laugh cause i faced worse and conqured that too. life is a trip sometimes, but you survive the ride. so kiddo, i think you and me both turned out pretty good.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: chassie, the sister appears to' up in this photo...maybe cause the cameras were rolling: http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090706/capt.414406fb1681430 3af944359430aedc2.mcnair_killed_fljaj101.jpg?x=233&y=3 45&q=85&sig=4vLWqFJLSKh6OCaOOMe0Zg--
Name: TesticAl
Comment: Yo Gurlfrand, on applications/surveys and the like that have black/white etc. I check Afro American/Black AND other.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: MELODYCOOL>*sigh* sad. but i would like to know just what did McNair see in her? shoot, she must of laid it on him big time. okay, that is my answer to that question.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: KEV>OOH YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!! THAT IS WHY I WILL NEVER CALL OMAHA NEBRASKA AGAIN!! This is why, if the relationship is over, it's over & don't have sex with them.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: Uh...that's another story. but i didn't get deeply caught up crazy. i could have, but didn't. instead, i got bored.
Name: SweetieDarlin
Comment: MelodyCool> Yeah leaving home early like that does speak volumes IMO as well, difficult childhood, or resenting parental authority and being bold enough to leave will bring ISSUES. Good point about Steve seeing the behavior and thinking 'OOOO H#LLCAT' many men can't distiguish between feisty and crazy, until the windows are broken out, their clothes are cut up or someone is aiming a gun at them. In this case this poor twisted sister probably felt she did him a favor of love by shooting him in his sleep, BTW those shots were straight up shoot to kill not to wound.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: SweetieDarlin, he probably wanted to believe in her innocence as so many of them are prone to doing, but the photos of her prove differently. I would never have trusted her judging from that look in her eyes and believing they're not much different from their men.
Name: MelodyCool
Comment: Another thing...how can someone become so comfortable and acquainted with a gun in such a short period of time? I read she told someone that Steve had lots of guns so maybe she'd touched one before.
Name: Exmun
Comment: Sweetie, "fiesty" vs. "crazy"? I'll take neither. None of that type of mess is attractive ... unless we're talking about fiesty in bed. But I digress.
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: "...so kiddo, i think you and me both turned out pretty good." Yeah, we did, bigchassie. And that's a good thing. On another point, McNair may have realized the girl was a little nutty, but may not have thought he was in danger. I mean we're talking about a man who has encountered, head-on, some of the toughest defensive players who've ever walked this earth. So he may not have taken it seriously to the point that he thought his life was in danger.
Name: Exmun
Comment: DC, Guns are the great equalizers.
Name: kevobx12
Comment: I'm flirty with an out going personality, some people can not even deal with that.People are not possesions, we are only human.
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