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Name: Teigh
Comment: In death...MJ was returned to us!
Name: soulmusic101
Comment: Not really worried about this...Don't need America's Congress to tell me what a real Legend and Pioneer is....Good looking out Rep. Lee and your heart is in the right place.
Name: MsBlake
Comment: Cosign Teigh & Soulmusic101.
Name: infofan1960
Comment: I don't think he was a pervert. I do think he shouldn't have had those boys in his bed. He could have saved himself a lot of heartache. A lady told me that people who think it was strange for him to have the boys in his bed are perverted, because what he was doing was innocent. She said it's normal for an adult to have a bunch of children (even someone else's kids) in your bed. I literally didn't know what to say to her after that comment.
Name: PlanetRock
Comment: Has Congress ever declared any other performer a legend? If not, then this inaction of the Congress is no big deal to me. The world knows that Michael Jackson is a legend because there isn't a place on this planet where his name isn't known.
Name: Gurlfrand
Comment: Sometimes we do things that are inappropriate, even if you intentions are honorable - we just have to use common sense and look at the long term effects those decisions may have, because other "folk" will try to use it against you for evil - perception is everything.
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: spineless democrats - that's why the rethugs are folding, spindling, and mutilating 'em
Name: Reds
Comment: A real simple solution to resolve this controversy and clear Michael’s name once and for all is to prosecute the extortionists and reveal the details behind all these charges and settlements. The first molestation charge was a sophisticated extortion scheme by a dentist who employed a skilled and ruthless lawyer. The boy and his mother would not have anything to do with it, but the father and his lawyer gained custody of the boy, then administered a drug which has the effect that "False memories can be easily implanted in those under its influence. ...The idea can become their memory, and studies have shown that even when you tell them the truth, they will swear on a stack of Bibles that it happened.” ... The mother was co-opted because "She worried that they would try to advance a charge against her of parental neglect for allowing her son to have sleepovers with Jackson." ... Michael’s camp filed extortion charges, but “the police never took it that seriously. But a whole lot more could have been done.” For example, as they had done with Jackson, the police could have sought warrants to search the homes and offices of Rothman and Chandler. And when both men, through their attorneys, declined to be interviewed by police, a grand jury could have been convened. http://www.buttonmonkey.com/misc/maryfischer.html ... It is now also being revealed that "MICHAEL JACKSON's insurance company forced the late King of Pop to pay a reported $20 million (GBP13.3 million) to his first child molestation accuser, rather than challenge him in court, according to a new book which sets out to clear the pop superstar of his bad name. The cash deal left many feeling sure Jackson was guilty and had something to hide, but investigative journalist Ian Halperin's new tome Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson claims the singer was not a pedophile who preyed on children. …This is what led to the heavy drug abuse and everything that followed." .. If Michael had fought the first charge, there would not have been a second. ... Nothing will be done to clear Michael's name until black people do something. ABC, who did a hit piece on Michael, and the rest of the MSM, could make a killing off covering the extortion side of events, but we live in a racist society where taking down a black man as big as MJ takes priority. Can we at least count on our black politicians (CBC) to lobby for an investigation. We will see.
Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: I say move on. This battle is lost, so deal with it. The memories will last forever, this is a digital age anyway.
Name: FiveMore
Comment: When Rep.Sheila Jackson -Lee brought the resolution up at the memorial service, I kind of thought, wait, those people will never let this go through the house.Although alot of those folk on Capital Hill participate in many strange/evil things, they would not agree to honor Michael Jackson in any way!What abunch of hypocritical pots living in huge glass houses.Rep.King wouldn't dare call out his colleagues the way he disrespected Michael Jackson.Would they defend Elvis or Lennon's drug abuse and questionable personal behavior?
Name: Reds
Comment: Newsblack.com discusses Obama’s response after dissing Michael. … “This is one of the biggest public relation failures since they taken the white house. How do you as the first black POTUS miss this one. ... This guy just doesn't get it.” http://www.newsblack.com/podcast/podcastrecordings/rnr p2009/rnrp07062009.mp3
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: Reds, mmmm hmmm, it's Obama's fault
Name: Bartholomew
Comment: Isn't it "timing"? Emotions are too raw, issues still left unresolved and well, Congress has a few more pressing issues to address at the moment. There is more than enough time to honor Michael in this manner. And it is not like his accomplishments have gone unnoticed or recorded even by Presidents. RayGun honored him and so did the first bush, memory escapes me exactly what was the honor. And as far as President Obama being dissed, what can one say. The guy is getting hammered from all sides and now being taken to task for this as well. I don't understand it. And for those of us that it is hard to accept, there are still controversial issues surrounding Michael. Have you ever heard the original version of Jermaine Jackson's "Word to the Badd?" Timing, please. There is the stimulus, obstructionist rethugs in full effect, 2 wars, etc........
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: Bartholomew, thanks for your understanding. The president is not being insensitive on this issue. Even if he makes a statement encouraging the resolution at this point, people will wonder out loud about why he did not do so immediately. Damned when you do, damned when you don't.
Name: Lorraine315
Comment: Tea Baggers and a CIA coverup- the reasons why they will not go forward with the MJ Resolution. This unfortunate drama has nothing to with Michael Jackson the man- it has nothing to do with the past charges against him- this is POLITICS. The folks in Washington who represent those racist Tea Baggin areas (who think they are losing the country to blacks and other minorities because of Obama policies) are afraid of losing their votes in 2010. And Nancy Pelosi and her crew are busy mixed up in whether the CIA lied to Congress drama. Its crazy how the death of Michael Jackson got mixed up in political drama, craziness, bullcrap:(
Name: goldengirl2
Comment: Cosign- Bartholomew, I agree 100%
Name: TJthemilitant
Comment: Pelosi and Peter (DYCK) can climb back in bed and BITE each other..We don't need 'em! The Michael Joe Jackson resolution already passed in "MY" house; He is already "MY" american legend, musical icon and world humanitarian! Remember when Chuck D said "Who gives a PHUCVK about a Gotdamn grammy"? Same shy*t!
Name: sweetpea
Comment: @infofan, MJ in an interview on 60 minutes, stated yes he had children sleep in his bed but he did not sleep with them in his bed. In my opinion, the parents need to be held accountable for allowing their child to even sleep over at his home. If I was a parent, there is no way I would have let my child spend the night at his home and and not be there. I can appreciate what MJ tried to do for children but these parents didn't know him, because he was a celebrity you just gonna leave your children in this stranger's home? As much as I liked MJ, I don't think so. You can't leave your children with some family members or friends because you don't know how slick they can be. These parents that allowed this, need to check themselves.
Name: khufu
Comment: Yes he has returned to us solely not that he has transitioned..HOWEVER let's see where his money and wealth end up
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: I didn't think the resolution would pa.ss neway. I'm also indifferent about whether we need one. HOWEVER, what does concern me is the nutless democrats. Why is it that whenever there are issues requiring the smallest of actions...democrats always fall back on "well there's a lot of stuff." Why do we have 535 members of congress and 100 Senators...and a White House..and an entire cabinet filled w/government agencies. People ultimately buy into this notion that somehow congress can do one thing at a time. This is a ceremonial act. Not something requiring the time and effort of pas.sing an actual law. After listening once again to blacks indifference to "symbolism"....I'm left to wonder if MJ had died in 2005 when there was a republican house, senate and white house, would we have said that "Bush has too much on his plate right now." Come on..I know ya'll won't admit it. But this board would be lit up w/people using this same act..as validation of republican racism. I expect my adminstration and congress to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. I wouldn't readily support a resolution for Falwell but certainly wouldn't disapprove of it considering that his positive influence went well beyond the mess that has come out of his mouth. I have no doubt that if the Republicans decided to honor him...the democrats wouldn't dare say that congress has too much on their plate. Really, the dems are spineless wimps suffering from a severe..and politically debilitating form of bytchazzitis.
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: BTW..if the White House supported the resolution...would you?
Name: khufu
Comment: this just goes to remind you: IT MATTERS IF YOURE BLACK OR WHITE....
Name: khufu
Comment: BANNED...They dont really care about us..
Name: khufu
Comment: If youre Black in AMerica, your existence is political...Michael Jackson was poitical FOR ONE because he had the power to not only mobilize the Black folks but all people....Listen to his songs and see that Michael was politically aware...see where he donated some of his money and know that MiJac was political ad that he a "feared" Black man
Name: Exmun
Comment: See now this is the kind of B.S. that a present who is paying attention can avoid. I hate to say it, but if President Obama would have just sent a damn Presidential letter of acknowledgment, we wouldn't even be in this mess of a Congressional fight or in-fight if he would have just done the right thing. IMO, If MJJ was worth a 'private' letter from the President, he achievements were also worth of a 'public' letter acknowledging his worth to America and the world. All of this backpeddling and making political what is not political is disappointing to the core. And like someone wrote above, I just don't think President Obama 'gets' it on the Michael Jackson issue. Sadly, this is where one's counselors and advisors step in at tell the President that he's missing it or has missed it on this one.
Name: khufu
Comment: ALL I can say is that they dont REALLY care about US!
Name: TGen
Comment: Co-sign Banned. I think predence is a big part of this story, and I haven't been able to find a lot of info on if this has done before. I found that an honorary resolution was passed for Nikki Giovanni (http://www.prlog.org/10217086-honorary-resolution-pre sented-to-poet-nikki-giovanni-on-april-9.html) and for this Pulaski guy (http://www.polishnews.com/index.php?option=com_conten t&view=article&id=710:durbin-introduces-resolution-to- grant-posthumous-honorary-citizenship-to-casimir-pulas ki&catid=81:news-from-chicago-wiadomoci-z-chicago&Item id=198), but not much else. *sigh* Anyway, to me this story is really about more than just MJ. As Banned states, it's about Dems caving once again so as not to be seen as too "liberal" or too "Black" or whatever else to "middle America." I stated this yesterday but will reiterate here: I just hope Blacks are paying attention! Don't just keep giving these f*ckers your votes without any discretion. Just because they have a "D" by their name does not mean they give a damn about you or what you care about. Similarly, just because someone is your skin color does not mean he/she will make your issues a priority--unless you MAKE HIM DO SO. Black folks continue to be last because of the kind of apathy found on this very thread "It doesn't really matter..." Do you think for one second the Jewish community would let anything like this slide? lol Answer: Hell NO. Even if individually they didn't care about something like this, they would not stand to be dissed like this by the House of Reps, no way no how. You screw with them, you will have hell to pay, and those in power KNOW this. The Jewish community will not be denied, they understand how much economic and political power they hold. If only Blacks understood the same. *sigh*
Name: Exmun
Comment: Bartholomew and Jaxxie, see this is where I differ. We ALWays seem to give the President a pass for how 'busy' he or Congress is. But we've got to stop this. We know they're all busy. That's why they have 'staff.' It ain't like the President himself is going to write this stuff up. And having Michael Jackson's legacy be the subject of a Congressional debate is the height of foolishness. It never had to happen. Again, all that is needed is a public Presidential acknowledgement ON PAPER of MJ's accomplishments. The man has sold three quarters of a billion records. His name is more well known worldwide that this Presidents and heads of state the world over. Acknowledging his professional accomplishments is a NO-brainer especially when his death has so obviously captured the nation.
Name: Exmun
Comment: And the world.
Name: Exmun
Comment: TGen, I agree with you. We need to FORce this president to do what is right. He is a politician just like the rest of 'em. And politicians only respond to public pressure.
Name: Reds
Comment: JAXXIE: “Reds, mmmm hmmm, it's Obama's fault.” … Don’t blame the messenger. Take it up with the radio announcer who was discussing it.
Name: khufu
Comment: IForce him, huh? well maybe we should have been clear on his position on certain Black issues before we got him in there? But I remember some yall sayin' things like: He aint just for Black folks.......He aint a President for just Black people....
Name: khufu
Comment: Black voters gave Obama the pass during the elecction and now they must fact the "monster" they gave birth to.....
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: There is plenty of info on the '93 incident that points to extortion, including a recent admission from the child himself (whose is now a rich adult) that nothing ever happened. Of course as far as Tom Sneddin's prosecution in '05, Michael outright won that case (remember the song by Michael where the chorus was simply "Tom Sneddin is a cold man!" over and over again). So on what basis does King declare Michael a pervert? That level of defamation is something the Jacksons should have their attorneys look into. Concerning the resolution, it'll happen eventually. Elvis Presley received one, as well several other Congressional honors (e.g., the 102nd Congress declaring Jan 8, 1993 "Elvis Presley Day"). And plenty of drugs were found in Elvis's house too.
Name: allaboutlydia
Comment: Cosign TGEN, Reds and Exmun. Why isn't there more fanfare about the black and hispanic kids being banned from the pool in Philadelphia because of their complexion?
Name: Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: >lydia- For what it's worth, they did a feature on the Today Show this morning about the pool incident in Philly. That's a darn shame that it even happened.
Name: Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: I'm with Planet Rock- if they haven't done a similar resolution for a white person, then I won't get my panties in a bunch over their refusal to make one for Michael Jackson. I also agree with those who say timing may be a factor. Maybe if after a few years go by, emotions will have settled and common sense and reasoning will take the lead. Then it would be a good time to get something like this accomplished. And I agree with Al Sharpton that they should create a Michael Jackson postage stamp. Michael certainly deserves one more than Elvis. And if you think about it, they should come out with on for James Brown first.
Name: Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: One more thing for now, I agree with banned, Exmun, et. all.. that the Democrats are a bunch of spineless jellyfish. Ever since Pelosi blocked Kucinich's attempt to impeach Bush, I've been looking at her sideways. Harry Reid too. It is my beleif they the Democrats stood by and did nothing (and are not making a fuss to prosecute the former Bush admin for torture and other war crimes) because they are scared shytless that their complicity will be exposed. They have just as much to lose as the Republicans. OK, at the risk of hijacking this thread, I will stop now...
Name: khufu
Comment: SO what? that they have never done it for a white person......MiJAC will be a trend setter and ceiling breaker in this regard as well
Name: Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: WAIT- dcdoug I just saw in your post that they did a resolution for Elvis! OK, now my panties are bunched- LOL!!! But seriously, I think after some time passes, this resolution for Michael must be revisited. It will happen.
Name: Reds
Comment: Oldschoolbrother: “I say move on. This battle is lost, so deal with it. The memories will last forever” … But what kind of memories. You don’t think those child molestation charges will still be brought up? … But I would care less for the passage of that resolution, but the controversy could provide the only real chance for us to clear Michael’s name. … The CBC needs to fight this, and force the hands of the federal government to get involved and ask why the local authorities didn’t do more to investigate possible extortion. This is a wonderful opportunity for a black president and black attorney general to finally do something for us. Black people will never achieve anything in this country unless they fight for it. The Dems who we supported knows that, so they just take us for granted. Hopefully, the black president who we elected does not also have the same attitude.
Name: Exmun
Comment: This is a copy of a letter that I sent to President Obama at www.whitehouse.gov Go to the contacts section and you can send a letter electronically. President Obama, While I support you and your administration, I believe that your failure to publicly acknowledge the life and achievements of Michael Jackson is troubling. You promised Change. You promised an administration that was not handicapped by overt politics. For your administration to have 'debate' over whether to publicly acknowledge the achievements of a music legend is shameful. Even your predecessor, George W. Bush, 'got it.' At the death of James Brown, a man with some degree of controversy in his personal life, then-President George Bush "publicly" acknowledged Mr. Brown's death. James Brown's achievements and place in American history are without question, despite whatever personal skeletons where in his proverbial closet. Similarly, Michael Jackson's place in American history is without equal. Clearly, his professional achievements have earned a public mention by your White House. I believe that you and your administration missed this boat on this one, and I urge you to issue a written public statement of the King of Pop's achievements so that his life and legacy are not subject to debate within the halls of Congress. Lesser lights have received presidential acknowledgments. You publicly acknowledged the death of Gabon's President Omar Bongo, a noted dictator who ruled his country for more than 30 years, subverting the democratic process. Even after his death, nepotism has thrust his son to rule in place of the father. Moreover, when a man like George Tenet can receive a Presidential Medal of Freedom for helping to provide the information and approval that led America into the Iraq war, Michael Jackson can surely receive a presidential acknowledgment. Your failure to acknowledge who Michael Jackson was to America, its history, and the world speaks volumes about whether your administration is truly in touch with this America. Mr. Jackson's memorial service surpassed your inauguration by almost three-fold on Yahoo's streaming video service. Your inauguration was previously the highest viewed event. If your administration cannot see the renown of this man, you truly have blinders on. I urge again that you issue a written presidential acknowledgment of the life and achievement of Michael Jackson. Regards, EX
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: allaboutlydia said: "...Why isn't there more fanfare about the black and hispanic kids being banned from the pool in Philadelphia because of their complexion?" That's beginning to gain some traction. The Today Show did a piece on it this morning, and one of the mothers of the kids, a young sister, was speaking adamently about how wrong it was and vowed to fight. A fed agency of some sort should enter the picture on this now. Anywho, looks like PA and NY are the new deep South.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Yo, muthafuccers need to stop waiting for White folks to validate...MJ is dea-has transitioned...Put up some MJ schools of performing arts...Change some dayum street names MJ Moonwalk *get it?...MJ Moonwalk?...MJ Moon --WALK, OK,...I don't need Congress to declare a dayum thing but where do I go to get my 40 acres and that dayum mule...Declare that...He11, the WORLD knows MJ was a dayum legend...PERVERT?...WTF?...That muthafuccer don't know sh1t 'bout perversion...Read between the lines of any history-book...Theres a whole lot of perverted muthafuccers up in there...Black folks know 'bout perversion...He11, our folks been victims of it....Yo, just give the President some time...he has to clean up 8 years of Bush...*sigh*...I'm sure he'll get around to giving Miichael Jackson the, the, shout-out he deserves...He just needs some more time.....
Name: Lorraine315
Comment: TJthemilitant, now why you hadda go and mention Chuck D? LOL Got me feelin' all militant now- had to go put on my Publica Enemy channel on Pandora. More words of wisdom from the wise poet Chuck D. : "Elvis was a hero to most But he never meant sh** to me you see Straight up racist that sucker was Simple and plain Mother fu** him and John Wayne Cause I'm Black and I'm proud I'm ready and hyped plus I'm amped Most of my heroes don't appear on no stamps Sample a look back you look and find Nothing but rednecks for 400 years if you check.."
Name: Renetta
Comment: hey rep Peter King your idol Elvis Presley married that girl when she was 16 years old. And as far as drugs - Presley was bloated a fat when he died and it came out later that he had his personal doctor shoot him in the %*$ with NUMBEROUS drugs so KMA. Jackson was acquitted. again KMA MF.
Name: Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: >Exmun- Good for you!!! :-)
Name: Exmun
Comment: CNG, one typo now that I reviewed it, but I think a reader would get my point. I put "where" in a place where I meant "were."
Name: beboyz
Comment: That (Pelosi)is just a cop out. Has the stimulus bill really done anything for the everyday American anyways???
Name: flytetime
Comment: Hey Ex...you have mail
Name: Reds
Comment: I’m really beginning to wonder. Is Obama really worth that much to us? It seems that we are now willing to discard all the things which we stood for before because of Obama. Any other time, we would hold a president accountable, but not now. Whether it’s on honoring MJ, blacks high rate of incarceration, prosecuting a previous Repub administration for war crimes … Why are we giving this administration a pass on everything? Where will it all end?
Name: MsMo
Comment: IN OTHER NEWS... A beautiful granite monument is being unveiled today in Gary: MJJRealRealm.spaces.live.com/blog
Name: Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: >Renetta- Shoot, Elvis started messing with Priscilla when she was still 14 or 15.
Name: Big10
Comment: If they don't wanna do that. At least they should award him at the next Kennedy Center Honors.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Tavis is somewhere having lunch, jotting notes on a napkin...
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: Closet_Nerd_Girl said: "...Elvis started messing with Priscilla when she was still 14 or 15." Somebody should let Pete King know that. Wonder if he'll give another pedophile stump speech.
Name: Southernbelle
Comment: MJ doesn't need this resolution to recognize him. He's an icon non the less. My great-grand kids will know of MJ. His impact was just that deep. It took Congress over 400 years just to recognize us as humans so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on them to recognize us as icons.
Name: soulmusic101
Comment: Breaking news: Obama is wearing one silver glove and is now going to take Mike's place in London for all 50 shows!...lol..all while dealing with America's 's problems, that he didn't create.....
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: Most Obamafans will look at any criticism of him as unjust. But this is more than just about him...it's about an inept spineless congress. The democrats are acting as if pacifying folks is the way to keep your nuts in socket. They have always been wimps but unfortunately it is exacerbated by a white house who believes the same. It's so sad and I fear that many won't know what hit them if the republicans gain their stride over the next couple of years. I'm regularly disappointed w/congress..and sometimes the white house. At this point, I'm over the symbolism of a black president. Now he and his congress will be treated like I have every other past POTUS. No more excuses. They barely can get healthcare pas.sed...backed away from criminal prosecutions...upheld bush policies of detaining 'tanomo prisoners and the list goes on. Four years from now..we won't know what hit us. But instead of blaming democrats..we'll blame republicans of course. SOUL..lol..yeah right..like Obama will be caught doing something "black" like that.
Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: There is no need for a resolution, the memories will live on. This age we are in now, is digital. So a piece of paper is not required. And as always the sickest people are the politicians who are in office, sukking diccs in the bathroom, affairs with best friend's wives, paying for young boys, should I continue? Yet they are voted in office time and time again. I never ever have voted straight down the party line. Too many thieves, some get past me but not all. How long as Maxine Walters been in office yet she still puts her friends and family in posts, what is the unemployment rate in her district? What about NYC? Over 50% black male unemployment yet none of those poverty pimps like Rangel are starving. I am from Chicago and Bobby Rush got over a million dollars from AT&T now he is saying he has no idea where the money is. Fucc talking about MJackson, we need to put these crooks out of office and put that money to good use and help put able bodies to work. Just my opinion.
Name: bigchassie
Comment: SOULMUSIC>hunny, you know Obama gonna turn it out! lol! can you imagine Obama on stage trying to do a split? lol!
Name: soulmusic101
Comment: Let's say every Dem was on board to honor MJ...Congress needs 2/3 of the House to pass this...and now you know the rest of the story Banned....I am playing the "Remember The Time" Video...greatness!
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: @Exmun: The president is not getting a pass from me on this issue. In order of pressing issues, it’s maybe in the top twenty but definitely not in the top five. @B00T: sure you’re right – we do not need anybody’s approval to validate Michael Joseph Jackson as a national treasure. @khufu: I have been listening closely to MJ’s lyrics and you’re right that the man was laying out some knowledge for us but we are just now ready to absorb it. @banned: criticism of President Obama is not unjust but the critiques tend to cause me to scratch my head in wonderment. I really do think that people want every wrong in this country fixed right now. These same people don’t remember that the president told all of us that he cannot do this by himself. This is a job for all of us. That spineless congress is not our ally and we should not be relying on it.
Name: soulmusic101
Comment: bigchassie...Obama taking that MJ stand and ripping off his shirt...lol...Who's Bad!
Name: bigchassie
Comment: HEY YALL CURIOUS....i don't know if i miss heard this, but, did anybody hear that Roland Burris died?? i probally heard wrong.
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: soulmusic101, I'm stuck on "Will You Be There" that keeps playing in a loop in my brain
Name: bigchassie
Comment: SOULMUSIC>*CTHEYELLUP* oh my gawwd! i'm seein the visual of him on the stage with the hat on and everything! lol!
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: 'chassie - I heard that he wasn't running for a full term in 2010 and I hope he's not dead
Name: bigchassie
Comment: SOULMUSIC>...and somebody in the audience hollering "PUT IT BACK ON MR PRESIDENT, PUT IT BACK ON!!!LOL!!! OH MY GAWWD!!!
Name: bigchassie
Comment: JAXXIE>ooh! okay that what it probally is then!
Name: bigchassie
Comment: SOULMUSIC>awww man!! i tell you i see it i see it good!! President Obama on stage dancing and singing to "Bad" and all of a sudden he tears off his shirt! and hollers: *AAAAAGGGGGH* lol! oh my gawwd! lol! oh wow! priceless!
Name: MzTee
Comment: Reds...you posed some great questions. I saw Michael Eric Dyson a couple of months ago and he said pretty much everything that Exmun, TGen, Khufu, BNTUSA, and you are saying. TGEN...you nailed it with this statement -- Similarly, just because someone is your skin color does not mean he/she will make your issues a priority--unless you MAKE HIM DO SO. I know we're happy to finally have a black person in the White House, but at the end of the day he is a politician whose entire campaign was built on the promise of change. Why are those who choose to hold Obama accountable and point out his missteps seen as treacherous to the black race? During the campaign, Obama urged folks to hold his feet and other politicians to the fire when they didn't do as they promised. If John McCain were president and didn't publicly acknowledge the passing of MJ, the majority of the folks on this board would be ready to burn the white house down while screaming how racist the republicans are. If we're willing to take a white president to task, we damn sure better be willing to take the black one to task too; otherwise, we will always be marginalized and never see any substantial gains in the issues that disproportionately affect us the most. No need to even comment on Democrats -- their inaction speaks for itself.
Name: TJthemilitant
Comment: PLEASE er'body hurry up and turn to CNN..Obama just ripped off his shirt and is going to town on his crouch!...OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!
Name: Exmun
Comment: @Jaxxie, re: your comment " In order of pressing issues, it’s maybe in the top twenty but definitely not in the top five." See, that argument is the same argument that's used by Obama sychopants at every criticism. For me, even as a supporter, the argument is tired. There are a lot of things that are still being put in motion by the White House even if they are top agenda items. It's called "staff." Are you seriously telling me that the President's staff couldn't have drafted a presidental letter of acknowledging MJ's career accomplishments moments after he died... or prior to his memorial ... or on the day of his memorial ... or after the memorial now that we all know how many people across the country and world watched ... or now? Seriously, the excuses for this President are breathtaking.
Name: TGen
Comment: Exmun, great letter. Boot, Tavis is somewhere smiling because he knows that he's been vindicated. If I saw him today, I'd go up to him and apologize for defaming him like I did during the election season. He knew what I didn't know but have come to learn, and he tried to warn his people and we didn't listen. Banned, co-sign your post 100%, esp this: "At this point, I'm over the symbolism of a black president...No more excuses." Oldschoolbrother, please stop that tired attempt to conflate two unrelated things. Pazzing a resolution to honor an international icon has ish to do with Maxine Waters hiring her damn friends. Both important issues in their own way, but really exclusive of each other. Miss me with your disingenuous conflation. Soulmusic, you are classic BO apologist and I think Banned's post was especially directed towards you, who NEVER, I mean NEVER find anything wrong with what the prez does.
Name: eddie
Comment: Nancy Pelosi looks like gabbage.go to hell bytch.
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: OK, looks like another "Let's Beat The Sh*t Out Of Obama" day. Myself? I'm a pragmatist. Maybe it's my day job that makes me that way (chemical engineer), but the net effect is I don't get too caught up in the emotions of the moment. Also means I won't be giving Obama a grade just yet, not with him having not even been in office six months. Another pragmatic view is that all we got in this county, for all pratical purposes, is a two-party system. So what do you do now? Have a write-in campaign for Sara Pahlin? Now here's a pragmatic, and selfish question I'll direct to myself: Am I better off now than I was one year ago? Well, I still got my job and I'm paying $2.50/gal on gas. So I guess the answer is yes, given that I was paying > $4/gal last July. But that's just me. Now if unemployment is approaching 15% by next year, it'll be a whole 'nother ball game for the Obama administration. Speaking of jobs/economy, is the stimulus not working? Who can say, given that only 10% of the money has been doled out. Seems to have kept a lot of (state) government workers (teachers, etc.) on the job so far though... (to be continued)...
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: ...Does it bother me that Obama seems to cower away from Black issues, so as not to appear too Black? (e.g., the low-key observation of MJ's death, or what looks like a low-key excursion to Africa). Can't say that it bothers me a great deal. At least not yet. Maybe it's because of the race speech he gave last spring, or my recent reading of his bio---the first one detailing his community activism in Chicago---both of which indicated to me that he knows what's going on with respect to the dynamics and history of race in this country. So am I ready to start beating up on Obama just yet? Nope. Although I know Rush, Hannity, et. al, would love the company.
Name: MSM2g
Comment: Tgen, khufu, exum, banned....Yall on point today for real! We dont need them to validate MJ, but its the principle. We do have to start holding the prez accountable.....stop with the excuses black folks. Thats our problem.
Name: TGen
Comment: Sorry DcDoug, no dice. Another way to conflate the issue, as if expecting him to do things as they come up is not pragmatic, lol. (Sorry DcDoug, MJ couldn't help that he died 6 months into BO's presidency instead of 3 years, lol). How silly of you to even suggest that his being in office only 6 months is a valid explanation. Maybe for the economy, but if you read the posts here, none of the posters have mentioned that they expected the prez to save the economy in 6 months. The criticism is coming from things that could have EASILY been dealt with and resolved. No one's asking him to be superman--just a man--with a backbone and a little bit of "give a damn" about people who put him in office. No dice DcDoug.
Name: MSM2g
Comment: For those of you who love the prez so much. Please read this story about Journalist Jane Burgermeister who MJ supported along with the Sheikh he spent time with. This kinda puts the pieces of the puzzle together. http://www.naturalnews.com/026503_pandemic_swine_flu_b ioterrorism.html
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: Well you got your opinion and I got mine, TGen, dice or no. Like a lot of other people on this board, I loved Michael Jackson. But am I going to spend a whole lot of time worrying about whether or not MJ gets a Congressional resolution? Sh*t naw (to get country with it). Got a whole lot of other personal things that I've got to pay attention to, not the least of which is my nine-year-old son, who I have to do the best I can to prepare for the rows he'll have hoe in life.
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: TGEN..I'm too trying to understand the correlation 'tween a "piece of paper" and real laws/actions/decisions that affect real people..such as what oldschool says about Waters and Rush. *scratching head* MZtee...u and I are > < as I stated the same thing earlier. The indifference that you'll find in the black community regarding this (and most other things) would be RACISM if the other party was in power. That's just the truth. DCDOUG..*scratching head* You can be a pragmatist and grade Obama's performance even though he's been in office for six months. I hear this "not enough time" and often wonder if enough time hasn't elapsed for you to judge how bad Obama is doing...how can you at the same time congratulate Obama on what he has done. It seems counterintuitive. You can give him props on what he has done..but not on what he hasn't because there hasn't been enough time. Hunh?..lol Comparably, gas was lower when Bush left office..than what it was last summer. re: the money for the stimulus. Sports analogy: if your team is losing in the first quarter...most people would complain about it and wouldn't in the least say that it's too early to complain because the game isn't over. As a pragmatist, you can ascertain the current reality even though the future may be different. Currently, the stimulus isn't working. That actually is a realist pov. Lastly, a pragmatist pov is that Obama would have never beat Hillary Clinton..let alone become POTUS.
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: dcdoug...you tend to marginalize blacks by this "got other shyt to think about." This is the same congress that intervened in a family's personal business...called congress into session..to debate on the house floor..whether the gov't should stop Terry Schiavo's husband from taking her off of life support. Yeah..the same congress..and this was in the midst of a war. I personally believe think that the ire against congress/Obama is more about the lack of spine than Michael and this resolution. MJ's death just adds to the list of democratic puzzyfootin.
Name: Gurlfrand
Comment: I say it does not matter that this resolution was thwarted by Pelosi - or anyone else for that matter...Michael's music career will never be matched by anyone anymore - those type of accomplishments don't exist to be matched by any artist since the mid-90's - records, tapes, albums, c.d.'s recordings arent' even sold that way anymore, so, Thriller will never fall from being the most sold album in music history. Stage performance and global breakthroughs will remain unmatched. I would say that Mariah Carey is probably the last female superstar from 1990 that will exist as far as her statistics are concerned -
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: bannedntheuse said: "...Lastly, a pragmatist pov is that Obama would have never beat Hillary Clinton..." Naw, my brother (or sister). A pragmatic pov only focuses on what is, not what could have or should have been. Facts are all that matter.
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: I should add that in the midst of a war, economic depression, our personal problems etc..many of us took the time to go around the country campaigning for Obama..convincing people y he should be our leader. Now we're too busy? *blank stare*
Name: MSM2g
Comment: banned....Your absolutely right!
Name: MSM2g
Comment: We as black people are the most "forgiving", letting sh&& slide people on the planet. We make excuses for others mistreatment towards us. Lack of self love and knowledge. It doesn't matter if they pass the bill or not, of course we know what MJ meant to us, but once again, it is the principle. Holding them accountable as every other race does.
Name: B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ....Dayum, Black folks are either waiting for sh1t, struggling for sh1t, marching for sh1t, waiting for sh1t, getting beat for sh1t...How come a muthafuccer just can't get his sh1t like everybody else...
Name: Reds
Comment: MzTee: “If John McCain were president and didn't publicly acknowledge the passing of MJ, the majority of the folks on this board would be ready to burn the white house down while screaming how racist the republicans are. If we're willing to take a white president to task, we damn sure better be willing to take the black one to task too; otherwise, we will always be marginalized and never see any substantial gains in the issues that disproportionately affect us the most.” … That’s what I have been trying to articulate for a long time.
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: Dcdoug wrote: A pragmatic pov only focuses on what is, not what could have or should have been. Facts are all that matter." Ok, I'll buy that even though it seems like a contradiction. As a pragmatist you can't judge Obama on the "current, real" evidence that the stimulus isn't working. So instead of judging him on the facts now...you prefer to wait til later...what "could" happen in the future...not what "is" happening now. *another blank stare*
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: @Exmun: I knew that I financially supported and voted for an individual who is a politician who happened to be black, so, I’m not disappointed with his priorities. I am much more concerned about how we black people join together on a definite concern or two and get the result that we need for resolution. If we have to cut our teeth on a congressional resolution for Michael in order to prove to ourselves that we can make something happen, so be it. Impotent posts on a web site don’t exactly cut it. No one take us seriously including the president who happens to be black because we can be counted upon to fracture into groups that keep a desired resolution from coming into fruition. It’s hard being a fist when a hand is crippled because each digit won’t bend. @ dcdouglass01: these days, black people are mighty whiney because they (some of us, anyway) thought that a black president would show whitey how things work when a black man is at the helm, dictating policy. And that’s the thing: LBJ and Raygun dictated policy. No other presidents have had the ability to whip congress into the shape necessary to have their dictates enacted and enforced. Bush does not count because the office of the president during his administrations was more of a cabal of neoconservatives lead by Cheney.
Name: Reds
Comment: TGen: “(Sorry DcDoug, MJ couldn't help that he died 6 months into BO's presidency instead of 3 years, lol). How silly of you to even suggest that his being in office only 6 months is a valid explanation.” … TGen, you beat me to the punch. Do people realize how SILLY they sound when they make that argument for daily issues which need the immediate attention of the president? Why didn’t you say the same thing for the stimulus package? Give Obama more time to start fixing the economy.
Name: soulmusic101
Comment: Gurlfrand...preach it...with Thriller selling like it is today, 25 years later. That CD will be at the top for a long time...like the next 50 years...lol
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: bannedntheusa said: "...As a pragmatist you can't judge Obama on the "current, real" evidence that the stimulus isn't working...." That quickly devolves into punditry, an endless circle of point/counterpoint. The biggest fact, IMO, on whether the stimulus is working, is unemployment. Given that economist have told us unemployment is a lagging indicator, is it unreasonable to follow that for the next 18 mos as an indicator as to the effectiveness of the stimulus? Some of you may be happy to hear this (and I'll go into pundit mode now): if unemployment isn't below 6% by 2011, Obama is a one-term president.
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: OK, MSM2g, I took a toke off of whatever you are smoking. If Jane Burgermeister is right about flu shots being a cover for bioterrorism, her life is in danger for being courageous enough to report it. The scheme that she reports on is so unbelievable that nobody believes it. While checking the Burgemeister articles, I saw this item and wonder how it can be proved or disproved [with apology]: “sources are reporting to President Medvedev today that American pop icon Michael Jackson was “most assuredly” %*$assinated by the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) after an examination of data transmitted by a Russian Military’s Kosmos 2450 satellite show “conclusively” that immediately prior to the music stars death in Los Angeles an electromagnetic pulse consistent in pattern to EMR weapons looted from the former Soviet Union by the United States was employed at the “exact coordinates” of the rock stars home”
Name: MSM2g
Comment: Jaxxie, believe what you choose, but I dont find her story far fetched at all. All it boils down too, is what you believe this govt. is capable of and their history speaks for itself. We will soon see once they start trying to "force" vaccines on us.
Name: MSM2g
Comment: Jaxxie, I am quite sure her life is in danger. I am sure the mainstream media is being controlled and will make her "appear" crazy, or we will hear about her being taken out before you know it.
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: dcdouglass01, as I noted in a post upthread, Obama needs that spineless congress to walk with him down the path necessary to get the change that we can believe in. I am ever so mindful, for instance, that health care is going to be watered down because the politicians (dems and rethugs) are owned by the conglomerates that would be financially impacted by healthcare with a public option. The president can't walk the walk without congressional backup. Corporate conglomerates own this country with politicians as lapdogs. Wouldn't be great if political races had the spot light on which corps owned which politicans? I don't expect Obama to win a second term unless he miraculously pulls us through some unforeseen disaster.
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: Reds said: "...TGen, you beat me to the punch. Do people realize how SILLY they sound when they make that argument for daily issues which need the immediate attention of the president?..." It's not a question of whether Obama addressed it, it's a matter of whether he addressed it to this person or that person's liking. Many are upset because he didn't address it the way Carter addressed Elvis. That he didn't address it the way a white president would. Reminds me of the integrationists who felt the schools should be integrated. That if we could just sit beside some white children, everything would be alright.
Name: JAXXIE
Comment: MSM2g, I don't suffer illusion or delusion. So often, the unbelievable is factual and we don't face it because we can't face it. Here is an example: there are people who tell us that our paper currency is nothing but an IOU because nothing backs but the air of US government solvency. Betcha a cuppa of Starbucks coffee that buncha people would call this example conspiracy theory.
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: Dcdoug..you won't hear not "na'an" argument from me that on how reasonable it is to give Obama time to gauge the stimulus' effectiveness. Because it's a long-term project, it's crazy of us not too. Most ecomnomists agree that the unemployment numbers are lagging indicators though "currently" the rates are rising. It's not completely "unreasonable" to say that based on the numbers..we're still in pretty bad shape even after the stimulus has pas.sed. Believe it or not, I'm not all or nothing. If you haven't noticed, many peoples complaints about Obama (at least blacks) aren't really solely about policy. It's his approach to governing ie..politics. Al Sharpton is judged on whatever comes out of his mouth...at the instant it crosses his lips. That's just a human thing. Obama is not immune to people criticizing him on what comes out of his. Hell, bush and mccain were HARSHLY criticized for suggesting that the fundamentals of the economy was strong. Obama made the exact same statement back in MArch and it met barely a peep of commentary. IMO, most of this is political/partisan. Democrats protecting democrats and by default..Obama..in part because of the color of his skin.
Name: Reds
Comment: dcdouglass01: “if unemployment isn't below 6% by 2011, Obama is a one-term president.” … Unfortunately, his declining approval ratings would support that %*$essment.
Name: Exmun
Comment: MSM2g, you and I are right on. And I definetely cosign some of the other lights on this post like TGen, Reds, 'Herbs... I mean Banned. I think Boots comment, though funny, speaks volumes for our plight. "Why is it that we can't just GEt shyt?" Why is it that we always have to wait, protest, beg, etc. White guy in office ... wait, I'm coming. Black guy, we STILL giving passes for behavior that wouldn't pass muster under a different regime. Like many of you, I gave up time, money, play dates with my chirren, gas, physical energy to campaign for the current President. I believe in him still. But why should I give up all that and NOT expect anything in return? The presidency is a job of making daily decisions. If imma campaign for a man that I didn't personally know, Imma need him to work for me, even if he doesn't know me personally. And if he's too busy to just be a genuine and non-political about certain issues, why shouldn't I do the same? (BTW MSM2g, that rant was directed in general and not you specifically).
Name: Exmun
Comment: Truth be told, whether HE believes it or not, if President Obama does not either suspend the enforcement of Don't Ask Don't Tell or get HIS Democratic Congress to change the law, HE may not get the support of the gay lobby come 3.5 years from now. Now most passive Black folk who give him a pass on just about everything, probably will be none the wiser and will probably talk about Obama's shrinking gay support as some sort of racial prejudice--which it won't be. And that's the truth Ruth.
Name: oldschoolbrother
Comment: TGEN>>>it takes two people to argue on a freaking chat board, blog or whatever you wish to call this EUR crap. This is my point, and I do have a opinion. I could give a shat about a resolution regarding MJac. His legacy will forever live on in my mind. Most white people hated the man plain and simple and will never understand our loyalty to him. To me it does not matter what they think. Period. As far as Barack is concerned, I am %*$!ed he gave AIG 140 billion dollars and we still got unemployment sky high in major cities and kids running the street like wild animals. Those are the things that affect me and get my pizzed, not whether or not some grapefruit looking yt woman who wants to gain points with HER people by saying NO to a pointless resolution Barack's situation should not come as a surprise, since he lost to Bobby Rush in 2000 his goal was to always run his campaigns regardless of his race. I voted for him due to his intelligence hoping he could get into office and do a few things differently, now after almost 7 months there are some pains but with what he had to work with, it is not brutal but it could be better. And yes, we do have other black politicians who have been in office for damn near 20 years and have done nothing but take votes for granted but still get revered like they are the second coming. Just my opinion. Have a good weekend.
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: Come on dcdoug..now u know that is quite unfair..lol Normally, how former presidents have responded to things is based on precedence (what was done before them). If Obama had come out strongly against Israel (going against precedent) I don't think people would compare the dissent from those who had a problem w/it to intergration. It would have nothing to do w/thinking tht acting or being near whites is the answer to everything. Politicians (espe presidents) ALWAYS make statements to the liking of one group over another. Taking jabs at blacks who didh't like how he responded to this is a low blow..considering ur analogy.
Name: queeniebunz
Comment: I'm not going to "go there" in this discussion because I really don't have an opinion about this at all. But I will address banned's analogy. I always and I mean always - yes an absolute - wait until at least 1/2 time if not the 4th quarter to watch football or basketball, particularly basketball. The last play-offs and finals are exactly why. Double and triple overtimes - that couldn't remotely be predicted in the first quarter. Many teams can be behind by double digits in the first quarter of either sport and hand the other team their azzes by the end of the game. You can go back and watch the games if you don't believe me. And THAT is why I don't pay but so much attention to the first quarter in either sport. It's nerve racking to do so because there's so much more time for things to change drastically. Think about this - we have Iran and North Korea to deal with. In the next year, we could very well be at war w/them. THAT would change all of this y'all are talking about DRASTICALLY, as the war in Iraq did. Things come out of the blue and happen that we would never have thought possible - 9/11 anyone? War means jobs, plain and simple. So to scrutinize things as many of you are doing in "the first quarter" is something I won't do. Instead of b*tching about the way Obama blows his nose or kills a fly, y'all should be on your knees daily praying for him and Congress to make the right decisions. Y'all need to remember who your leader really is - and he don't live in the White House. And yeah I DID bring God into it, or let me correct myself. God is already in it, around it, and over it. Y'all just forgot.
Name: khufu
Comment: white cultural supremacy lives on...see, even a Black person can support and participate in its perpetuation......
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: bannednthusa, maybe there's a little stretch by me with that analogy, but not a total stretch. What's the name of that syndrome...the syndrome where, if we haven't done it the way they do it, we haven't done it right. IMO, there's some of that dynamic in play here.
Name: khufu
Comment: why isnt Michelle going to Ghana with him but she went to Europe?
Name: khufu
Comment: QUEENIEBUNZ' perspective is plain foolish
Name: Lorraine315
Comment: Exmun, I think when it comes down to the culture wars in politics Obama will still have the upper hand against his republican rival in the 2012 election even if he does not suspend the enforcement of Don't Ask Don't Tell. I seriously doubt the gay community will support those "Pray Away The Gay" Republicans. Now as for black people voting for Obama again in 2012- it depends who else is in the running on the democratic ticket- me personally would not for someone considered a "conservative democrat"- they crazy.
Name: MSM2g
Comment: exxum you right, oh and Jaxxie about the currency...... right now as we speak China is talking of taking the US dollar off the reserve currency. While we are being kept asleep with BS new/media coverage the world is moving along with us over here totally clueless, which is intentional!
Name: dcdouglass01
Comment: Michele and the girls flying back already? Those three would look beautiful in some traditional Ghanian outfits.
Name: Reds
Comment: Khufu: “why isnt Michelle going to Ghana with him but she went to Europe?” … Because they scurred of Fox bytching about how much it’s costing the country to take the family on these trips. The question, when is someone from the white house going to call them on this. Go back with all the previous administrations and see how many trips they went on with their families and ask Fox why they wasn’t complaining then. Is it ‘cause we have a black one now?
Name: TGen
Comment: Oldschoolbrother, are you that limited? You can't focus on more than one thing at a time? lol AGAIN, what does the AIG bailout have to do with acknowledging the death of an American icon? Sorry, Queenibunz but this is a red herring: "So to scrutinize things as many of you are doing in "the first quarter..." Actually, people are judging him FAIRLY on things that have come up that have been within his ability to resolve (ie MJ official statement, miltary tribunals, truth commission, etc.) I haven't read ANYONE here criticize him on not being able to fix the economy in 6 months. And for you (and Oldschoolbrother and whoever else) to suggest that is insulting. Khufu: "why isnt Michelle going to Ghana with him but she went to Europe?" What? I hadn't heard that, interesting. I heard Obama talk about how he wanted his kids to see the world and that's why he took them with him to Russia...seems like he would have that same thought towards Ghana, would have been a memorable experience for his daughters. Hmmm
Name: TGen
Comment: "Because they scurred of Fox bytching about how much it’s costing the country to take the family on these trips." Or because they don't want to make "some" uncomfortable by seeing a Black family with paternal roots in Africa travel there. Hmmm
Name: Reds
Comment: I think a trip to Africa would be beautiful and enlightening for the girls. Why didn’t they do that instead of Europe. Oh, Bama’s kinfolks from over there.
Name: Reds
Comment: “Or because they don't want to make "some" uncomfortable by seeing a Black family with paternal roots in Africa travel there. Hmmm” … Darn TGen, that too.
Name: TGen
Comment: Reds: "Oh, Bama’s kinfolks from over there." Great minds think alike! lol *wink* Have a great weekend everyone!
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: PlanetRock> This is about his Humanitarian work. He is the #1 Celebrity in Giving to charity and he is in the Guinesse Book for that effort.
Name: ladybyrd
Comment: khufu> Blacks didn't give him no pass, what are you talking about? And he couldn't have been president without most of the American's voting for him. Stop singling out blacks all the time. We didn't single handedly put him in the White House. American's came out in droves young and old, black, white, asian, hispanic etc. Americans was put Barack in the White House.
Name: khufu
Comment: LOL LADYBYRD...isnt EUR targeted to Black folks? So, it's okay sometimes to singleout a particular group based on what one's criteria is......duh
Name: bannedntheusa
Comment: QB...so you think it's uncommon for people to judge w/in the first quarter...or do YOU prefer not to do it. There's a difference. How much time do you remember people giving Bush? Bush was blamed for 911 after having only been in office for 9 months. Blaming him for 911 was fair? Was it not judging him w/in the first quarter? So the difference now is what? Because it's Obama the great? come one. Bush couldn't take a step w/out democrats being up in his azz. I'm not sure what going to war w/Iran or North Korea has to do w/current US domestic policy. Not sure your point there. What DRASTIC change will occur re: our current discussions? Factually, you don't like ANY crticism of Obama and are so in love w/him that you went so far to conclude that a man you have never met..and possibly never seen in person..will NEVER cheat on his wife. So if we're bytching..ur swinging on his nuts like a fly attached to elephant shyt. DCdoug..sorry but that seems a lil off. You're talkgn about what POTUS's do. What else is there to go on but what was done before him? That's a lil odd IMO. LADY..u can marginalize your vote all you want. No president is able to win w/out "most" americans voting for them. All of them realize where their bread is buttered. I realize that it was my vote that contributed to the 94 or so % of blacks who supported the POTUS..which has never happened before. In an era where out vote has been marginalized and our people taken for granted by every other democrat...U don't want to be singled out for that major accomplishment? WOW! What fantasy love land do you people live.?
Name: khufu
Comment: Black folks should have been harder on him regarding those issues related to Black folks like reparations, high crime, racism, etc...REMEMBER? when those issues came up the majoirty of yall integrationalists black americans didnt feel it as right or necessary for hik to "cater" to Black folks? Remember?
Name: khufu
Comment: If Black folks had not supported Obama, he would not have won.....it is the die hard blackamericans like LadyByrd who make it possible for us AFRICANS in AMerica too continually get shitted on and over...
Name: khufu
Comment: Obama's trip to Ghana is not about what is best for AFricans.....it is a move to try and combat the positive relationship China is building and their positie influence in AFrica
Name: MSM2g
Comment: khufu....whew you right on the money with that one. I know I will probably catch slack for this statement, but Integration was a trick and the death of blacks mentally! I say that because we stuck together and accomplished so much more as a people when we were segregated! Now we are all asleep...this young generation don't even realize we were once slaves....so sad!
Name: khufu
Comment: like I been saying for the lonegst NAY HO MAH..yall Mofokers better learn Chinese quick! and SPanish and some Indian language!
Name: khufu
Comment: we nver intergrated...we de-segrated...As Licoln said he freed the slave to preserve the union and not for the sake of slaves, de-segration was an economic move in order to drain the African-American "nationalist" economy that existed and to kill the centralized Black community....
Name: TesticAl
Comment: Khufu, what up homey!
Name: MSM2g
Comment: khufu....RIGHT RIGHT de-segregated! But they are selling integration!
Name: khufu
Comment: excuse the typos
Name: khufu
Comment: they sellin' crack, you buyin?
Name: MSM2g
Comment: LOL...nope but some people are buying!
Name: khufu
Comment: A Jewish president's first committment and loyalty would, unapologetically, be to Jews especially in Israel...
Name: bigchassie
Comment: BOOT>LOL! because once they get the shyt, it's too shytty to deal with!lol!
Name: 1VAsweetsexy
Comment: And again we struggle in this LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE to be recognized..See how the lies of those child molestation charges helped in a major way to ruin our brotha..MJ IS STILL THE GREATEST ENTERTAINER..in a true racist, bigot's or whatever mind BLACKS AND MINORITIES WILL ALWAYS BE BENEATH THEM..frm Cypress Hill's song " Here is something you can't understand- how I can just kill a man"...the truth in that song :(
Name: Keikei2
Comment: O.K., EUR, I haven't written in in some time, but this I must say! I attended MJ's homecoming last Tuesday and I must say it was pretty amazing. The atmosphere was surreal, very calming and to my surprise, very well done by AEG and Randy Jackson. After the service, I said to my self that I would not talk ill about MJ especially after hearing his daughter talk about her dad so lovingly. Then...I read information on the pills, needles, porn magazines, etc. that were confiscated from Neverland back in 2002 and wonder if all of the child molestation charges against him were really true! I mean, MJ was drugged up most of the time and according to the police records, was a fan of porn magazines as well. Let's put this all together...drugs, porn, little boys in your bed...hmmm, I'm really starting to think Al Sharpton's remarks, "There wasn't nothing strange about your daddy..." was wishful thinking on his and MJ's fans part! In all, I think this is a very sad American story and unfortunately no one had the guts to stand up to MJ because everyone, including his family appeared to have been on his payroll. Kudos to the nurse from Compton that told MJ no. Had more people done this, he might be alive today. On another note, is it just me or is Jackie Jackson being awfully quiet about his baby brother? Jackie is the oldest of the clan and not only did he NOT put last words in the obituary we received at the service, he has stated nothing about MJ in years! Oh, and one more thing, MJ's dermatologist is a quack, I won't believe for one minute MJ slept with Debbie Rowe, and why oh why does Jermaine have is head painted with what appears to be hair? Strange %*$ family to say the least!
Name: Conrad
Comment: "why oh why does Jermaine have is head painted with what appears to be hair?" Keikei2, that is known as the "Gumby Syndrome."
Name: Untouchable
Comment: Fans should write or send an email to Nancy Pelosi if they care to complain because it sounds like a let down. Other controversial people like George Carlin has received this honor, so why not Michael. On the other hand, perhaps it's too soon to demand a postal stamp as Rev. Sharpton wants for MJ or for this honor that Sheila J. proposed. I will wait a few weeks before writing to pelosi.
Name: MSM2g
Comment: Keikei.....don't be so naive. Stop believing everything the media feed you about MJ. All of those stories are Fos!
Name: Conrad
Comment: I can't help but wonder if, in 2012, Obama is overthrown for a yt president, who are going to surely punish Black america for voting for Obama in 2008, will the same posters here be as critical of that yt president and hold him (and it will be a yt man) to the same, often unreasonable and unreasonable standards as they do Obama? Of course, it wouldn't do much good because we would have set our own cause back post-Obama. BTW, for those posters who posted that Michelle and the girls had flown back to america, I just saw Michelle and the girls with Obama at Cape Coast, (the first mother-in-law is there as well) the dungeons in which Africans were held, also known as the "point of no return" for slaves that were loaded onto ships that sailed to america and other ports around the european world to suffer intolerable conditions as slaves. Why do the haters continually post outright lies about Obama?
Name: Conrad
Comment: "often unreasonable and unreasonable standards as they do Obama?" ... should have read unreasonable and unrealistic standards as they do Obama?
Name: Conrad
Comment: Of course, post-Obama, should have read pre-Obama, but I really am a little pizzed and emotional right now and am typing faster than I can think. To each and every poster on this board, be they pro-, con-, or balanced Obama, I will certainly hold him up as an example to EVERY Black male in my family (and we are legion). Even a president of change has to learn to walk before he can run. I pose that Obama's administration will grow stronger with time. As far as yt americans hating on Michael (because Michael was loved by EVERY other race and ethnicity in the WORLD), we don't need yt america to validate Michael for us. As a poster above fonted, we have Michael back. Remember, we didn't leave Michael, Michael left us. Finally, people like King (and I wonder what skeletons are in his closet) and Pelosi WHOM I NEVER LIKED OR TRUSTED, are angry because Michael was ten times bigger than Elvis, an illiterate redneck whose claim to fame was literally stealing and doing a very bad job with Black music. Did I mention that he was also a pedophile? Priscilla, at 14, was living up in Graceland, having her brains fycked out on the regular by this 25-year old true pervert.
Name: Reds
Comment: Conrad, where you been? … “I just saw Michelle and the girls with Obama at Cape Coast” … My apologies. I guess you got to check your stuff before responding on the EUR. I apologize for TGen also. We were just responding to something that khufu said. I figured he had his shyt right. I just went and see the beautiful video of the family alighting Air Force One in Accra, Ghana. Glad the whole family was able to make the trip.
Name: Reds
Comment: Keikei2: “MJ was drugged up most of the time and according to the police records, was a fan of porn magazines as well.” … Keikei2, check this out “investigative journalist Ian Halperin's new tome Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson claims the singer was not a pedophile who preyed on children. … This is what led to the heavy drug abuse and everything that followed." … Remember, Ian Halperin's is someone who initially thought MJ was guilty, and decide to prove it. After five years of research, these are his conclusions. When you got some time, also read the article “Did Michael Do It? The untold story of the events that brought down a superstar.” http://www.buttonmonkey.com/misc/maryfischer.html ... As for the porn magazines, it’s kind of normal behavior for the average male to seek out some porn on the internet or in a magazine now and again.
Name: Conrad
Comment: Reds, I've been working like a well-paid slave. My law office is so busy until I've been going in on Sundays to try and stay abreast. Since we're primarily litigation, you can't afford to fall behind lest a court date fall through the cracks or a brief is not timely filed and served and you lose a case by default. Actually as I was posting, I was watching CNN and saw the Obamas and grandma, so I didn't have a head start, just got lucky, so no apology is necessary from you or from you for TGen. I've also been playing Bookworm, but that game cheats as it will not recognize some words I know are legitimate.
Name: soulmusic101
Comment: Keikei2.....hmmm, I am always a little leery of someone who starts off with "I have not posted for awhile" but than drops info that looks shady. The stuff collected from the raids was not as bad as your mind makes it out to be. And now she is making an assumption about what Jackie is thinking?....lol...
Name: Fragrance
Comment: My blog has a poem to Michael Jackson, but if you scroll down you will see an open letter I write to President Barack Obama, which to me, shows that focuses change. Man in the mirror, MAKE THAT CHANGE!
Name: Fragrance
Comment: Blog, Poem to Michael Jackson, at www.princene.blogspot.com
Name: Reds
Comment: Fragrance, quite the Obama fan. Well, I hope your wish comes true … “Mr. President, don't worry if there were words stumbled while taking your oath because God is going to bless you to do it again in FOUR MORE YEARS!!! Please select someone that will practice before and manage to get into the grove of how you speak....” It was a Republican conspiracy … LOL! ... Roberts intentionally mixed things up to embarrass Obama. But it was caught and he end up embarrassing himself.
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